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October 5, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-232
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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Otto and Jane: Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 6 2025 4:36 utc | 102 Not only is Starmer married to a Jewish woman, he himself is also “from a Jewish family and has family in Israel” . His children are also Jewish. How do I know he is from a Jewish family? His own words in a video at a Jewish Labour event, likely filmed before he was elected PM. — Posted by: Recently updated | Oct 6 2025 5:01 utc | 103 Dr Mustafa Barghouti: From South Africa Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 6 2025 5:03 utc | 104 oops! Re Starmer Posted by: Recently updated | Oct 6 2025 5:03 utc | 105 Re Starmer from my original comment at Posted by: Recently updated | Oct 6 2025 5:11 utc | 106 I find the situation with the latest ceasefire in Gaza quite interesting. I see this as Hamas and the axis of resistance as playing Occupied Palestine/Bibi against empire/Trump….forcing their hands
Now is the time for Bibi to attack Iran and let us see where Trump’s ego directs humanity’s future…. Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 6 2025 5:13 utc | 107 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 6 2025 5:35 utc | 108
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Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 5 2025 21:41 utc | 45 Posted by: Recently updated | Oct 6 2025 5:51 utc | 112 Tom_Q_Collins | Oct 6 2025 4:36 utc | 103 Posted by: Jerr | Oct 6 2025 6:03 utc | 113 ‘Thailand Does Not Welcome Israelis!’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 6 2025 6:08 utc | 114 From Xinhuanet
I think this sidetrack is not in Bibi’s plans to attack Iran Has the genocide really stopped or even slowed down? If that is the case the Bibi is losing. Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 6 2025 6:34 utc | 115 The reality of the relationship between the US or UK with Israel is that most British and US politicians lead a double life, belonging culturally to both their local communitied’ constituencies and the Urban, Zionist FreeMasonry. They have wives / husbands and mistresses / partners in both environments, like BoJo, simultaneously. Or alternatively, like Stsrmer, their single partner is Jewish Zionist and their work is British. Starmer is in reality an Israeli Minister, like Ben Gvir or Smotrich, whose office also legislates in England incidentally. Both my current MP and the previous MP are equally at home in local , Labour, British and South Asian constituencies and London , International ,Jewish , Zionist London society.This is England. We have no idea what our representatives actually get up to. Posted by: normal wisdom | Oct 6 2025 7:09 utc | 116 see the 44-second video at the first/second link Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 6 2025 9:50 utc | 117 <blockquote>When Netanyahu arrived at the White House on September 29, Trump reportedly handed him a phone receiver and made him apologize directly to Qatar’s prime minister over the strike on Doha, a moment described by insiders as symbolic of the shifting balance of power between the two leaders.</blockquote> Posted by: Sticker | Oct 6 2025 10:55 utc | 118 Alastair Crooke has an article Oct 2 on Strategic Culture Foundation, its about Isr. being “concerned” about the drift away by young peoples from fully supporting them, the “eighth wave” is about hoe Ist must rectify that by engaging with young age children. Isr. must keep a full USA consensus to support its intentions against Iran , Gaza andits whole limitless twisting ambitions which have no testraint nor any sense of legality nor keeping any agreements. Posted by: Jo | Oct 6 2025 11:12 utc | 119 A serious question: Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 6 2025 12:46 utc | 120 And why are they mass-murdering Palestinians who had nothing whatsoever to do with the Holohoax? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 6 2025 13:32 utc | 121 All quotes, only able to note down unedited a collection of relevant posts at the moment: ” Yedioth Ahronoth: Gaza negotiations begin at 4:00 PM today, Monday. • Journalist Youssef Fares Civil Defense spokesman in Gaza, Mahmoud Basal: The raids on Gaza have not stopped. – Israeli raids on the Strip are still ongoing despite the announcement of the Trump plan, and the bombing is targeting various areas intensively. – Humanitarian aid trucks have not been able to enter Gaza City since the beginning of the blockade, warning of a worsening humanitarian crisis in light of the severe shortage of basic supplies. – Rescue crews are facing difficulty in recovering the bodies of the martyrs due to the ongoing bombing and dangerous conditions on the ground • Journalist Youssef Fares Sources told Al-Arabiya TV: – A Hamas delegation headed by Khalil al-Hayya held preparatory meetings with officials from the Egyptian General Intelligence Service . – Hamas emphasized in its meeting with Egyptian officials the need for clear guarantees and oversight mechanisms to fully implement the agreement. – Hamas expressed concerns about Netanyahu’s failure to adhere to US President Donald Trump’s plan • Journalist Youssef Fares Hebrew platforms: The Israeli occupation army will carry out raids deep inside Lebanon in the coming hours, and the northern settlements have been informed. [ Now under way including: Sohaib Masalmeh Channel Hassan Ali Jamil Atwi, a key member of Hezbollah’s air defense system in the Nabatieh region of Lebanon…] • Journalist Youssef Fares Political researcher Ahmed Al-Tanani : Israel wants to secure its prisoners at the lowest possible price, especially prices that might affect the political future or the course of the battle. Even if it ends with great momentum, it will inevitably continue using other tools and forms, including low-intensity military efforts. The coming danger is the risk of liquidating the project. Therefore, Israel’s pure interest requires delaying the return of the displaced, which would facilitate renewed aggression and the destruction of Gaza City, a significant difference on the ground. Politically, Israel aims to prevent the release of national figures. From its perspective, the best thing that could happen would be to release approximately 250 prisoners serving life sentences, while keeping the symbols and heavyweights among the last fifty prisoners left behind. This would have a profound psychological and moral impact in the context of “burning consciousness,” in addition to its direct impact on the political process. Ultimately, the occupation realizes the extent of the political weight that Ahmed Saadat and Marwan Barghouti could add to the national equation, especially in light of the collapse and decline experienced by the official Palestinian position. Their release also represents a significant boost to the national front against the liquidation plan. On the other hand, Israel also recognizes the importance of Hamas’s leaders in prison, and their role in shaping the movement’s future leadership equation, which requires strategic minds and great determination to restore what has been lost, on the one hand, and confront the threat of uprooting, on the other. Furthermore, the withdrawal map proposed by Trump—which clearly demonstrates that it is an Israeli map in every detail—will not be acceptable in its current form, as it fundamentally undermines the negotiating flexibility premised on the idea of ending the humanitarian catastrophe, as the occupation army maintains control over 70% of the Gaza Strip. Note on the difficulties of reporting due to public attitudes: • Sohaib Masalmeh Channel To all the followers who attacked us during our reporting of the following news, specifically from non-Palestinians: Please show respect and refrain from making accusations and immoral language. When we publish the news after translation and extensive research on Israeli media sites, we will certainly not provide you with the source. You can go and search and translate it yourself, as we do. We are merely transmitters of news, specifically Israeli news. The followers who attacked us in the comments and went on to insult us on their Lebanese channels are only expressing their individual morals, and anyone who insults us on the channel will be banned.” Posted by: Ornot | Oct 6 2025 13:33 utc | 122 Humanity needs an answer.Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 6 2025 12:46 utc | 121 Posted by: normal wisdom | Oct 6 2025 13:53 utc | 123 Posted by: Sticker | Oct 6 2025 10:55 utc | 119 Posted by: Recently updated | Oct 6 2025 14:15 utc | 124 Arch Bungle 52 – Hams and PIJ and Fatah and PFLP swim in the sea of the Palestinian people, just like the IRA, Provisional IRA, INLA did in Ireland in the 1970-1998 period, and with the old IRA/IRA/Irish Volunteers (non Redmond faction) did from 1916 to 1970. Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 6 2025 14:31 utc | 125
We all wonder this.I have attempted an answer, some of which I have posted before. Posted by: Otto Penn | Oct 6 2025 14:34 utc | 126 The German chancellor Merz will back the Zionists and their genocide till the end – if this is anything to go by Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 6 2025 14:55 utc | 127 “For starters, it is a big country”: And your view is already challenged by other Americans who see it differently. Posted by: Jane | Oct 6 2025 15:59 utc | 128 Posted by: Jane | Oct 6 2025 15:59 utc | 129 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 6 2025 16:04 utc | 129 The sun has now set in Jerusalem, Sukkot has begun. Posted by: Otto Penn | Oct 6 2025 16:10 utc | 130 Humanity needs an answer. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 6 2025 16:14 utc | 131 My last comment reflects reading that I have done by Ashkenazi Jews about Jews. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 6 2025 16:21 utc | 132 Sign of the times… Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 6 2025 16:22 utc | 133
UN Expert Demands FIFA Ban Israel After Genocide Finding Posted by: PassionateProgressiv | Oct 6 2025 16:31 utc | 134 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 5 2025 13:42 utc | 9 Posted by: stranger | Oct 6 2025 16:34 utc | 135 Live Blog: Day 731 Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 6 2025 16:57 utc | 136 Posted by: Recently updated | Oct 6 2025 14:15 utc | 125 Posted by: Sticker | Oct 6 2025 17:06 utc | 137 Posted by: Recently updated | Oct 6 2025 14:15 utc | 125 Posted by: Sticker | Oct 6 2025 17:13 utc | 138 Mahmood OD: ‘Assassinating the Delegates’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 6 2025 17:23 utc | 139 Global Protests Continue Over Israel’s Seizure of Sumud Flotilla Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 6 2025 17:50 utc | 140 Note: On Android at least, if java script is disabled the format of writing goes back to the normal (one line space for paragraphs for example). If you copy paste with java script on, it seems to need three lines, not two, for a paragraph space. (Have just repeated this on each thread…that is all. @ Mary you might find the site more normal with java script disabled) Posted by: Ornot | Oct 6 2025 18:11 utc | 141 Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 6 2025 17:50 utc | t Posted by: canuk | Oct 6 2025 18:40 utc | 142 Re my (128) comment Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 6 2025 18:43 utc | 143 Bibi & Vlad Had a Phonecall
Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 6 2025 18:57 utc | 144 @Exile, and other barflies Posted by: stranger | Oct 6 2025 19:11 utc | 145 The British government doesn’t care about its own citizens – never mind any Palestinians. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 6 2025 19:19 utc | 146 Re #145: Putin initiated call to Netanyahu: Kremlin version: Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 6 2025 19:39 utc | 147 re; Kremlin readout of Putin/Netanyahu phone call: Here’s the url… Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 6 2025 19:48 utc | 148 148 Posted by: normal wisdom | Oct 6 2025 19:55 utc | 149 Syria has been offerred on a plate to USUKIS, in exchange for mothing except the right to genocide its population. Posted by: Giyane | Oct 6 2025 20:58 utc | 150 Indian Companies Complicit in Israel’s Genocide of the Palestinians Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 6 2025 21:06 utc | 151 Carney Government Silent as Newfoundland Activists Headed For Gaza Face Likely Interception Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 6 2025 22:04 utc | 152 Above url corrected: https://theindependent.ca/news/lji/carney-government-silent-as-newfoundland-activists-headed-for-gaza-face-likely-interception-by-israel/ Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 6 2025 22:07 utc | 153 Greta’s press conference after release, worth watching. When she first hit the limelight I thought she was a fraud, not because I’m anti-green or don’t believe in global warming, the opposite and why it concerned me, but he had a lot of the hallmarks of controlled opposition, and maybe she was but didn’t know it, until she realized it. However she got there she rose to the occasion, not something you see much these days. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 6 2025 22:17 utc | 154 Greta Thunberg: ‘We Cannot Take Our Eyes Away From Gaza!’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 6 2025 22:36 utc | 155 Mr. Gilberts posts a lot of disinformation in the Palestine threads that reeks of passive-aggressive hasbara. It’s always China’s fault, Russia’s fault, India’s fault. His own Canada is an Imperial colony that engaged and continues to engage in genocide of indigenous people. One would think he would focus closer to home instead of blaming everyone else for the Zionism rife in his own colony. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 6 2025 23:22 utc | 156 Re: Posted by: Giyane | Oct 6 2025 20:58 utc | 151 Posted by: Trubind1 | Oct 6 2025 23:35 utc | 157 For their credit, Extinction Rebellion and the Greta weekly demos for the planet organized in schools have really educated people of all kinds about colonialism and what it is about. The deployment of police for the weekly demos was clearly a sign some people saw them as a threat. Posted by: Tom | Oct 6 2025 23:39 utc | 158 Jewish finance begins to nibble at one of the last significant compute companies not dominated by the Jews.
Amazing what you can do with trillions in paper fiat. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 7 2025 0:10 utc | 159 Some obvious omissions from the Jew Plague’s bald-faced lies about October 7, 2023. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 7 2025 0:18 utc | 160
wie funktioniert das alles?
dies sind unsere DREI Gehirne. Alle drei müssen intakt sein, damit etwas sinnvolles. konstruktives entstehen kann.. Posted by: swiss | Oct 7 2025 0:27 utc | 161 ‘Does Steven Spielberg feel guilt for his role in the Gaza Holocaust?’ Spielberg is a part of the Bronfman-Wexner-Lauder-Steinhardt-Epstein ‘Mega Group’ of Jewish Zionist billionaires that last met in Spring 2001 – about six months before they blew up the WTC in order to really ramp up the worldwide ‘war on terror’ that was birthed at the first JCIT held at Netanyahu’s Jonathan Institute back in 1979. https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Mega_Group — https://www.ianwelsh.net/open-thread-194/#comment-144823 https://www.ianwelsh.net/open-thread-194/#comment-144826 — Posted by: Dan Kelly | Oct 7 2025 0:39 utc | 162 Gaza Day Off, October 8th 2025: No Work. No Spending. Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 7 2025 0:43 utc | 163 Do you remember this OCTOBER 7 th? “…she got there she rose to the occasion, not something you see much these days.” Posted by: Menz | Oct 7 2025 1:00 utc | 165 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 7 2025 1:01 utc | 166 stranger, Posted by: Exile | Oct 7 2025 2:13 utc | 167 michaelj72 167 Posted by: Giyane | Oct 7 2025 2:35 utc | 168 see the 3-second video at the second/third link Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 7 2025 2:50 utc | 169 169 Posted by: Giyane | Oct 7 2025 3:39 utc | 170 Palestinian Canadians Say Getting Family Out of Gaza is Taking Too Long Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 7 2025 4:38 utc | 171 RB: Mohammad Marandi Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 7 2025 4:45 utc | 172 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 7 2025 5:41 utc | 173
Not when compared to the brainless mongrel dogs burning people alive in a metal cage and filming it as a PR recruitment exercise for social media. They die every day:
Wishing you all well on this 7 October – Gaza Liberation Day. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 7 2025 7:28 utc | 175 see the 26-second video at the first/second link. hilarious. lmao! Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 7 2025 7:45 utc | 176 Intetesting that Almayadeen covered an article that says Trump cornered BB into this deal and that overall the balance of power is shifting.The proof is in the pudding, as they say. Posted by: Delhiliterally | Oct 7 2025 7:48 utc | 177 Interview with Tony Aquilar on what he saw working for an American firm “securing” food distribution in Gaza: Posted by: Sticker | Oct 7 2025 7:53 utc | 178 Have you seen the remodeling work that Israel has done to Gaza? Not quite finished but certainly 80-90% of the demo work is complete. It’s a wonderful Liberation Day indeed! Allahu Akbar! Posted by: Muhammed Z. | Oct 7 2025 7:54 utc | 179 <I>Not only is Starmer married to a Jewish woman, he himself is also “from a Jewish family and has family in Israel” . His children are also Jewish. How do I know he is from a Jewish family? His own words in a video at a Jewish Labour event, likely filmed before he was elected PM. — Posted by: Delhiliterally | Oct 7 2025 7:55 utc | 180 Re: Post 157 Posted by: simon crow | Oct 7 2025 8:06 utc | 181 @Delhiliterally Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 7 2025 8:22 utc | 182 images from yesterday perfectly timed from gaza fraction of a second image capture of what looks like controlled demolition of buildings. Posted by: normal wisdom | Oct 7 2025 8:56 utc | 183 Hamas statement: Posted by: JB | Oct 7 2025 9:27 utc | 184 Repost with paragraphs for easier reading. (Sorry) Posted by: JB | Oct 7 2025 9:30 utc | 185 The Al -Qassam brigades Commander Mohhamed al Deif announced Al Aqwsa Flood in a ten-minute speech on October 2023. Posted by: JB | Oct 7 2025 9:48 utc | 186 Some Links to Family Starmer Posted by: Guy Fawkes | Oct 7 2025 10:02 utc | 187 @John Gilberts | Oct 7 2025 4:45 utc | 173 Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 7 2025 11:10 utc | 188 190 Posted by: normal wisdom | Oct 7 2025 12:05 utc | 189 Hebrew media: Posted by: teri | Oct 7 2025 12:42 utc | 190 Posted by: teri | Oct 7 2025 12:42 utc | 192
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Oct 7 2025 12:53 utc | 191 Well what can you do with such frothing at the mouth mad dogs and rats? Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 7 2025 13:06 utc | 192 RE: Fragging among IDF Posted by: exile | Oct 7 2025 13:18 utc | 193 🔹@enemywatch Posted by: JB | Oct 7 2025 13:24 utc | 194 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 7 2025 13:33 utc | 195 Posted by: Delhiliterally | Oct 7 2025 7:48 utc | 178 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2025 13:38 utc | 196 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 7 2025 13:33 utc | 197 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 7 2025 13:44 utc | 197 Never mind the “AI joke” below, look at the dates. We have another anniversary
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 7 2025 13:47 utc | 198 Arch, I don’t know whether this thread is still active, but if it is, and you see this: Posted by: Jane | Oct 7 2025 13:51 utc | 199 Posted by: michaelj72 | Oct 7 2025 13:52 utc | 200 |
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