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October 6, 2025
France’s New PM Lecornu Reveals New Cabinet … And Resigns

Note that these reports were posted just fourteen hours apart.

Macron Appoints French Cabinet, but Doubts Over Government’s Stability Persist (archived) – NY Times
There were significant holdovers from the previous cabinet, but President Emmanuel Macron also named several newcomers, including Bruno Le Maire, a veteran centrist politician, as defense minister.

Oct. 5, 2025, 2:04 p.m. ET
President Emmanuel Macron on Sunday appointed most of a new cabinet that left many holdovers in key positions, a semblance of stability that will do little to dispel persistent doubts over the French government’s ability to survive long enough to pass a budget this year.

French Prime Minister Resigns in Surprise Move (archived) – NY Times
Sébastien Lecornu stepped down less than 24 hours after he had formed his cabinet.

Oct. 6, 2025, 4:02 a.m. ET
Prime Minister Sébastien Lecornu of France resigned on Monday less than 24 hours after forming his cabinet, a move that caught the nation by surprise and made his government one of the shortest-lived in modern French history.

Last year President Macron dissolved the parliament with the hope of gaining a new majority in support of his policies. It was a devastating miscalculation.

The people preferred the opposition on the far left and far right.  Macron’s own center-right party was thoroughly diminished and landed in the third place. Without parliament support the government was unable to pass a budget.

The situation is unlikely to change until Macron accepts the will of the people and nominates a prime minister from one of the opposition parties. If he fails to do that he should resign.

Comments

In these hyper-postfactual and polarized times, the MSM commentariat apparently has drifted so far aleft
Posted by: Nervous German | Oct 6 2025 16:53 utc | 86

Well, perhaps it’s the case in Germany, but in France, MSM drifted far far aright.

Leaving these misleading “left” and “right” labels out of the discussion might help focus on the real issues.
Posted by: Nervous German | Oct 6 2025 16:53 utc | 86

On the contrary, there’s only clarity in contrasts. The “Extreme-Center” has governed for too long.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Oct 6 2025 18:03 utc | 101

Note: On Android at least, if java script is disabled the format of writing goes back to the normal (one line space for paragraphs for example).

If you copy paste with java script on, it seems to need three lines, not two, for a paragraph space.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 6 2025 18:08 utc | 102

in France, MSM drifted far far aright.
 
Posted by: xiao pignouf | Oct 6 2025 18:03 utc | 101
 

 
MSM far right??? Le Parisien is owned by Bernard Arnault.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 6 2025 18:19 utc | 103

with java script on, it seems
 
Posted by: Ornot | Oct 6 2025 18:08 utc | 102
 

 
MoA would be sufficiently, if n0t better, served by Usenet.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 6 2025 18:24 utc | 104

@ too scents | Oct 6 2025 18:24 utc | 104
 
Usenet was destroyed by Google

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 6 2025 18:26 utc | 105

@ 103
In response to proposals like “a 2% wealth tax on France’s 0.01% wealthiest in the 2026 national budget”, Arnault called the young French economist who proposed that rather milquetoast policy (cf., Huey Long from Louisiana suggesting a 100% confiscation tax on all income over $1,000,000 in the 1930s) a “far-left activist” who wanted to “destroy the French economy”. Doesn’t seem like much of a lefty.
 

Posted by: fnord | Oct 6 2025 18:28 utc | 106

What does the situation in France mean for the Euro? The root cause for France’s problems is Macron burning money for several years. Now they are close to bankrupt, with no path to spend the money they’d need to spend to fix the country. They can burn prime ministers until they are green in the face, nail Macron to a cross. None of that will get them the money they need. The traditional way – devalue the currency – is not available with the Euro.  ND the EU, out of money themselves – doesn’t exactly help by supporting NATO ‘s 5 % target – the opposite of what France needs.
 
Is there a way out, or will France drag the Euro into oblivion?

Posted by: Marvin | Oct 6 2025 18:29 utc | 107

Usenet was destroyed by Google
 
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 6 2025 18:26 utc | 105
 

 
Really?  How so?
 
It is  alive and is simple to self host ==> https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn

Posted by: too scents | Oct 6 2025 18:34 utc | 108

Macaroni say cheese for the camera on your way out. Ta

Posted by: Sadness | Oct 6 2025 18:36 utc | 109

S Brennan (92).
 
Thank you for that comment.
 
It is surprising that Pakistan would allow the US military to use that strategic port, which would allow the American’s to monitor not only China’s movements in the area – but certain parts of China’s landmass – simply because Pakistan is meant to be an important ally of China – however Pakistan has a long history of corruption and military coups – sold to the highest bidder as Imran Khan found out, when he wouldn’t bow to pressure to supply Ukraine.
 
Maybe the below has something to with it – the USA could’ve arranged for its Saudi puppets to invest in Pakistan – with bribes all round for those involved.
 
“A Saudi business delegation is set to visit Pakistan this week to launch what Islamabad hopes will be an investment program following their recent mutual defense agreement. Pakistani officials expect initial investments of around $1 billion, potentially through a new fund, as a first step toward strengthening economic ties alongside existing military cooperation”
 
And this as well.
 
“Pakistan has acquired advanced BVR capable AIM-120D advanced medium-range air-to-air missiles (AMRAAM) from US for its F-16 fleet. The AIM-120D AMRAAM is the most advanced version of the American Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile, a supersonic, radar-guided weapon with a “fire-and-forget” capability. The AIM-120D offers improved range (over 100 miles), GPS-assisted guidance, updated data links, enhanced jam resistance, and greater lethality than previous variants. It is the primary beyond-visual-range (BVR) weapon for U.S. and allied fighter aircraft, capable of autonomously engaging multiple targets in various weather conditions, day or night.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 6 2025 18:36 utc | 110

@ too scents | Oct 6 2025 18:34 utc | 108
Google took over Usenet in 2001 and called it “Google Groups”
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Google declared:
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Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 6 2025 18:42 utc | 111

Does France have a huge military? Do super-richies get a lot of tax break?

Posted by: lester | Oct 6 2025 18:44 utc | 112

MSM far right??? Le Parisien is owned by Bernard Arnault.
Posted by: too scents | Oct 6 2025 18:19 utc | 103
 
Yes. far right.
Macron = Arnault & Rothschild
Le Pen = Bolloré
Both far right.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 6 2025 18:47 utc | 113

i tend to agree with nervous german over the use of these terms, right and left.. they quickly devolve into useless subjectivity…. i like xiao’s use of the term ‘extreme centre’. that has a lot of utility…
 
as for google, anything it touches turns to crap..  worst company on the planet, but lots of others vying for this descrption too..

Posted by: james | Oct 6 2025 18:56 utc | 114

Posted by: English Outsider | Oct 6 2025 14:50 utc | 56
Thanks for the links, EE
 
Posted by: Marvin | Oct 6 2025 18:29 utc | 107
“Is there a way out, or will France drag the Euro into oblivion?”
 
That IS the way out.
 
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 6 2025 18:36 utc | 110
If the Pakistanis piss off the Chinese, they will find themselves losing the next war with India.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Oct 6 2025 19:01 utc | 115

Does France have a huge military? 
 
Posted by: lester | Oct 6 2025 18:44 utc | 112
 

 
The ownership of France’s military is highly centralised.
 

Shareholders: Thales

Name Equities % Valuation

Government of France 54,788,714 26.6 % 14 442 M €

DASSAULT AVIATION 54,750,000 26.59 % 14 432 M €

Thales SA Employees Stock Ownership Plan 6,034,825 2.93 % 1 591 M €

https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/THALES-4715/company/

 
So who owns Dassault Aviation?
 

The Secrets of the Dassault Family Fortune: How the Family Built a $32 Billion Industrial Empire
April 6, 2025
Dassault Family Colossal Fortune
The Dassault family is one of thes more France’s largest fortunes a symbol of industrial success spanning several generations. Heirs to aviation pioneer Marcel Dassault, they have built a diversified empire ranging from aeronautics and software to media and luxury goods. With a business fortune estimated at 32 billion euros in 2025, the Dassault dynasty occupies thee TOP 6 of France’s richest people, testifying to the group’s remarkable prosperity. How has this wealth been built up over time, and who are its custodians today?
more ==> https://lama-fortune.com/en/dassault-family/

The Ancien Régime survived the Reign of Terror.
 

Posted by: too scents | Oct 6 2025 19:05 utc | 116

If the Pakistanis piss off the Chinese, they will find themselves losing the next war with India.
 
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Oct 6 2025 19:01 utc | 115
 

 
Before or after they run out of water?

Posted by: too scents | Oct 6 2025 19:07 utc | 117

@too scents | Oct 6 2025 19:07 utc | 117
I’m still laughing, thank you!

Posted by: maja | Oct 6 2025 19:11 utc | 118

MSM far right??? Le Parisien is owned by Bernard Arnault.
Posted by: too scents | Oct 6 2025 18:19 utc | 103
 
Yes. far right.
Macron = Arnault & Rothschild
Le Pen = Bolloré
Both far right.
 
Posted by: Naive | Oct 6 2025 18:47 utc | 113
 
Exactly.  Probably could be said for every party on the ballot, even the ones that pose as left like insoumise.  The fake left ones are the most insideous agents of Imperialism.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 6 2025 19:42 utc | 119

“The US Treasury is engineering this. ” Posted by: unimperator | Oct 6 2025 13:00 utc | 41 — Pull my other leg, Mr Rickards.
Posted by: too scents | Oct 6 2025 13:03 utc | 43

 
The US cannot become globally competitive in trade without a devalued dollar. World Reserve Currency status was always a double edged boomerang. US Treasury knows this and is trying to engineer the softest possible landing (for them) without major inflation. Other countries know this as well and are in charge of their own response. At some point there will be a new Bretton Woods type conference.

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Oct 6 2025 19:54 utc | 120

This link isn’t completely off topic —  Alex does talk about Lecornu’s lengthy time in office — but I dare anyone to be listening to the narrative.  Spectacular walk about Moskva featuring so many incredibly beautiful old buildings and churches , bells, the wall of the Kremlin, the river  — well done!!
 
Alex Christoforou in Moscow
 
 
 

Posted by: juliania | Oct 6 2025 19:58 utc | 121

le pen is married or engaged too a khazharian name stealer identity thief he is the handler.
nigel farage is  chabad owned in london.
micron macron is just a 80s and 90s disco night club dancer picked up by some queer rothstein bankers  back in the day and made into a long term project.
everyone is captured blackmailed
france is being gutted. locals replaced by millions every year same as uk locals not breading anymore 
germans and germany again barbera lerner spectored  and a modern Morgenthau Plan
 

Posted by: normal wisdom | Oct 6 2025 20:05 utc | 123

Basically, any non French political forum churns ou bullshit and useless blahblah everytime the matter of discussion is France. I have no real explanation of what is causing that, but it is that.
Here, because MoA doesn’t attract the most common morrons, it is not as bad as in other non French forum, but, well . . .The guy who post with the W. pseudo says very strange “facts”. Looks like he has the half blindness and hallucinations typical from young far lefties. Do no trust his reports !
I would disagree with laguerre when he say that gilet jaunes where defeated because of infiltration from the far right. That’s the POV of a leftie, which Laguerre is a little bit. Other than that, he’s an actual French who speaks about the real France.Bolloré is not supporting Lepen but Zemmour. Naive speaks like a far-lefty who does not understand the detail of the right and the far right. His first axiom seems to be “Everybody but myself is a fascist”The claim of a real rivalry between LePen and Bardella is pure speculation. Bardella is a young moron with a pretty face which attracts voters when he speak in the TV. He’s nothing more and would have stayed anonymous if he was not the pupett of LePen (and intimely linked to the LePen family). Lecornu didn’t resign because Retailleau didn’t knew about Lemaire. If you think a little bit about this logic, it’s non sensical. Last available and plausible explanation is simply that both the left and the far-right told Lecornu they will vote his demise on the first day, because their respective claims were not satisfied.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 6 2025 20:07 utc | 124

France is no different than the rest of the world: in just a few years (thx covid scam and online purchase!!), the 1 percent has doubled their fortune. So now the squeeze is felt also by the upper middle class.

Posted by: Tom | Oct 6 2025 20:10 utc | 125

The French political farce reminds me of Italy and Greece sometime back. Nothing will change if the people don’t stand up. 
 
Instead of bitching about the site, why not just make the best of what’s here and be thankful we still have MoA, warts and all. 

Posted by: Suresh | Oct 6 2025 20:13 utc | 126

Posted by: normal wisdom | Oct 6 2025 20:05 utc | 123LePen has never been with a “khazarian”. That guy was 25% jewish, and the pair has separated  about 10 years ago

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 6 2025 20:13 utc | 127

Posted by: Suresh | Oct 6 2025 20:13 utc | 126
People have never obtained something of “standing up”

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 6 2025 20:18 utc | 128

Well, there is at least one obvious cause of the constant bullshitting about France, it is the poor work of journos from UK and US.
Let’s look at this sentence from the NYTimes from the first part of the B.’ post :
several newcomers, including Bruno Le Maire, a veteran centrist politician, as defense minister.
But Lemaire is far from being an actual newcomer. He was Macron’s Finance ministry until one year ago. And well remembered as the genius who :
– is responsible for a big part of the deficit increase
– claimed that sanctions against Russia will defeat it. Everybody here has since understood that it increased prices in France something like 10 or 20%, and had no effect on Russia.
 

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 6 2025 20:38 utc | 129

Norwegian | Oct 6 2025 17:39 utc | 98
 
Thanks for your replies. IMO, Richard Wolff is correct to ascribe most of what we’re observing to be the product of the swift decline of the Collective Western Empire, although there are many nations who never were part of that Empire and are being suckered in at its end. Some, like the Iberian twins, lost their empires long ago and having already been through the process are more immune and able to watch the disaster unfold. NATO persists in its Balkans project and is addicted to Ukraine. NATO/EU lost again in Georgia. What comes after Meloni falls is unknown. Norway survives because it has energy independence until the North Sea runs dry. Sweden is also lucky on the energy front which helps to stabilize its economy. Finland, however, is not so lucky, and its energy issues contribute to its economic problems. Your Norway is also very fortunate. IMO, Norway and Sweden will be the least impacted by the rapidly rising AI electrical energy demand associated with its data centers. Where those get sited will be crucial. It’s possible entire nations will go NIMBY when citizens discover the massive resource usage those sites will have and how they’ll affect economies.
 
IMO, Europe’s in a pre-rebellion state that’s not at all universal in degree. The biggest question for Germany, Denmark and the Benelux group is how severe will Fall and Winter weather be? A secondary question is how much more Trump will demand as tribute? And third, which governments will fall before the New Year?

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 6 2025 20:40 utc | 130

I started noticing before the SMO, but it didn’t really gel till the SMO, how incredibly insular European leadership has become, leadership that represents 500 million people! It’s obvious now this is because of the conspiracy over Eurolandia’s consolidation into the 4th Reich and the march to war with Russia, and the cryptic nature of this consolidation, as compared to say the typical pomp and glory of the march to dictatorship and war as in the 1930s.
The insularity is not just because they are scheming at turning what Wolin termed “inverted dictatorship” right side up, sunny consumerist Cold War Reich to dark Hot War Reich, but also because to achieve this Western leadership was systematically purged starting around mid ‘90s and carefully transformed, and reduced, to a group of nurtured or compromised, tested and vetted, co-conspirators who could be let in on the big picture: The crypto unveiling of the 4th Reich and the march to global war.
This small group and the even more insular overlords who hand down orders, can take no chance on letting anyone new in, western political institutions are still constitutionally empowered, there is legal and public power still there to reveal the subterfuge and break the stranglehold, they cannot risk anyone going rogue, attempting to become an old fashioned power broker instead of a manager, like Orban or Fico or even Trump v1. Remember, back at the start of it all, Putin was supposed to be their man, their manager, the fix was in, then big surprise. At the point we are at they can’t allow any possibility of this, they can’t have anyone in power that isn’t in the cabal, that they can’t absolutely trust with the secret plans and timelines. 
Seems there really is no one in France in the wings, this is why Macron is holding on to the last strands power, venturing outside the constitution in a proudly constitutional country, even though he is doing catastrophic damage to the kayfabe of democracy that was meticulously crafted and maintained throughout the Cold War. The conspiratorial structure of the modern EU is also the reason that the Euro Group, European Council, and civilian NATO leadership (these ambiguously constitutional institutions) are a dizzying game of musical chairs, for two decades now, same people trading jobs around and around when their “democratic” term limits are reached. It’s not just fail-up sinecures, you are simply witnessing a small group of conspirators conspiring, trying to keep the conspiracy intact.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 6 2025 20:42 utc | 131

^ sorry about the lack of paragraphs, something about the new forum seems to fuck up or ignore spacing, or I’m not getting the trick to it.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 6 2025 20:45 utc | 132

Republicofscotland 110,As you well know, there are countries in this world that are agreement-incapable beside those most notorious, the English/Anglo-schoolboys of DC/London.  Oddly, those others that first spring to mind were/are birthed/nurtured by the English* empire, though, in fairness betrayal was part of their DNA long before the English taught them the finer points, you know “…the club tie, the firm handshake, a certain look in the eye, an easy smile…
 
 

1] Israel, has issues with integrity, one might feel compelled to say…as John and Bobby Kennedy discovered to their dismay and as those still alive from Israel’s “accidental” attack on the USS Liberty will attest.  When it come to betrayal, Israel ranks with the best.
 
2] Turkey is another on the world’s judas list,  scratch any Turk and you’ll discover another Ottoman imperialist.  And never turn your back after making the deal with an Ottoman or…soon you’ll find their reputation for backstabbing is quite real.
 
3] Punjabi Pakistan, exchange all the pleasantries you will, you’ll soon find your pockets fleeced, surrounded by thieves all too ready to kill.  In Bulachastan you can see the results of Punjabi rule…in spite of it’s vast riches, the populace is desperately poor because a government in faraway Islamabad is ever so cruel.

 
*In fairness to E Outsider, I’ve met many a fine, fair minded English blokes who will carry no water for the evil deeds of empire, nor do they seek to resurrect it’s rotting corpse through nefarious intrigues, just live, let live.   Sadly, what the majority of ordinary blokes think/want is ignored by the uppermost class who, no matter how many failures, fall upward at an ever increasing speed.

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 6 2025 20:48 utc | 133

^ I also wish we had the “preview” button again. Is there some trick to that too? Should there be tricks to formatting and previewing? I’m sure the bugs will be ironed out.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 6 2025 20:51 utc | 134

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 6 2025 13:00 utc | 41
https://x.com/Neliothecat/status/1975146441510445360

Nordstream was not blown up by Germany, it was blown up by or on demand of the US.

Posted by: joey_n | Oct 6 2025 20:54 utc | 135

^ a timed, say 5 minute, edit and undo button would be nice too, though I also like the old school internet “do or die” nature of MoA.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 6 2025 20:55 utc | 136

Macron, former banker, Merz former banker, the Moldova bimbo former banker and many others who have been appointed governors of their respective regions – former bankers.
Starmer, Macron, Merz all have exceptionally low approval ratings. 
Starmer is the odd one out there. He has a background as a human rights Lawyer. I guess that comes in handy for the methodical genocide of the Palestinians. 

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Oct 6 2025 20:59 utc | 137

So I presume the whole cabinet has resigned then, not just the PM?

 

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 6 2025 10:07 utc | 5

 
According to Article 8 of the French Constitution of 1958, “the President of the Republic appoints the Prime Minister. He shall terminate his duties upon the latter’s presentation of the government’s resignation. On the proposal of the Prime Minister, he appoints the other members of the government and terminates their functions.”
 
The press still writes that the prime minister has “submitted his resignation”, but legally, he presents the resignation of an organization of which he is a member, the government.
 
In law, nothing would prevent the president from choosing exactly the same ministers. Besides, Lecornu’s government had been mocked as resembling the return of the living dead.

Posted by: Leuk | Oct 6 2025 21:03 utc | 138

Once again, low IQ folks are using wrong language and contributing to misunderstandings and harm to humanity.
The “government” (mind control) did NOT resign, the executive administration/Cabinet resigned, you flipping !diot
And another misuse of language is the retarded “times less” wording. If I have $100 and you have $20 you do NOT have “five times less” what I have, because “five times” is FIVE MOTHER FUCKING HUNDRED DOLLARS and you only have $20. You have “ONE FIFTH” (1/5Th) you low understanding slow learner language dolts… 
 
And another thing; the Spanish, or Spanish language speakers, or the South Americans ARE NOT FROM ITALY, ARE NOT LATIN, AND COULDN’T SAY ANYTHING IN LATIN TO SAVE THEIR LIVES. They are NOT “Latinos”. That term was made up 100 years ago and has NEVER BEEN USED THROUGHOUT HISTORY and is a cheap political trick to mislead the gullible. Every time someone uses the phrase “Latino” you should immediately dismiss them as retarded or dishonest.
 
I hope the West Asians and Africans can do exactly to France as France has done for Western Asia and Africa (total destruction, reversion to prehistoric agrarian society with no soldiers or authority anyplace on the planet, including inside France)
 
Have a good day 💕 
 

Posted by: Hot Carl | Oct 6 2025 21:07 utc | 139

Europe Is FRACTURING, Populists Winning, And Brussels Can’t Stop It

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOj2kzYdc94

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 6 2025 21:08 utc | 140

Look it is not perfect but it is an improvement
Stop using the terms left and right and start using actual informative names. In the simplest model it is a for part square, but you can move to 9.
Now this is still too simple but a start:
Bottom of square moving Right to Left relates to economic policy ie how fairly is wealth distributed
On the vertical axis moving from top down you have a spectrum of what can loosely be called social values. At the top you have socially “progressive” values and at the bottom very traditional values. This gives us nine distinct names that define political parties. It is not complete. Two standouts are nationalism and environmentalism. But let us just start with nine so we can all stop talking rubbish about left right which has become meaningless, especially in the US.
Let us just start with four, because the centre can be confusing
Bottom Right: Socially very traditional, and generally opposed to wealth redistribution of any kind.  Autocratic. The name CONSERVATIVE
Bottom Left: Union focused groups who favour wealth distribution and public services but are not “woke.” Autocratic.The name SOCIALIST
Top Right: Socially very “woke” but opposed to government intervention of all kinds including wealth distribution. The name LIBERTARIAN
Top Left: Socially very “woke” but also into wealth redistribution. No sensible name as yet so let us use the term NEW AGE 
We can then fit the other often offensive term used into one of these quarters or else into the middle zones.
Think about it. Where do Fascists sit, and greens and each of the current parties competing for power. If they don’t fit comfortably into one of the nine squares then time to add a third dimension.

Posted by: watcher | Oct 6 2025 21:11 utc | 141

karlof1130
 

What comes after Meloni falls is unknown.
 

Ooh, ooh, I can answer that! A cleverly crafted series of unelected technocratic governments that can go on  years. All run by reassuringly serious men, like Monti, Letta, Draghi – put the country in safe hands in dubious times. Works wonders in a country of pensioners sustaining a dependent population of critically under-paid, under-employed, and unemployed young people.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 6 2025 21:12 utc | 142

@129 Parisian Guy

Most people are clueless about the politics of countries they have not lived in. MSM translates to something they can read, but is generally empty of accuracy and meaning.

Even in own nation, people are pretty clueless about what their politics is about, spend their time arguing about themes that politicians aren’t interested in.

Seems designed that way.

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 6 2025 21:14 utc | 143

Bolloré is not supporting Lepen but Zemmour. 
Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 6 2025 20:07 utc | 124

That’s plain BS. Zemmour is finished. Bolloré supports Le Pen’s ideas. Stérin supports Le Pen’s ideas. And if it’s necessary, any other billionaire will support Le Pen’s ideas if their privileges and their wealth are threatened.
Plutôt Hitler que le Front Populaire, as they used to say.
Fascism is capitalism’s spare wheel.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Oct 6 2025 21:14 utc | 144

…poor work of journos from UK and US”  -Parisian Guy 129It is as you say, the ignorance in the Anglosphere is due to the effluent the media effuses, a sea of misinformation into which all must swim.  That said, it’s all part of the 3LAs “Operation-Mockingbird”.  The ignorance of Americans/Australians/Britain/New-Zealanders is a direct result of Langley/MI-6 conspiring to make their respective populations incapable of reasoned thought.  As for other languages…don’t know.
 
…how incredibly insular European leadership has become, leadership that represents 500 million people! It’s obvious now…”  – LightYearsFromHome 131
 
Agree, they don’t even make an attempt to conceal their disdain, they’re as brazen as the streetwalkers in Barcelona, well, perhaps I’m being a bit unfair to working girls…clearly, they function at a much higher level than politicians.

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 6 2025 21:20 utc | 145

Microbe is definitely an infection. France deserves better. But the EU and the US want him in power. They control him through his ageing husband who even uses physical violence to coerce him.

Posted by: Jason | Oct 6 2025 21:24 utc | 146

I want if I may to wish our Supreme Commander in Chief of the Russian Federation (RUF) Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin a Happy Birthday, loads of good health and many years of prosperity. God bless him.
Emmanuel Jean-Michel Frédéric Macron (EFM) is a boiling frog and he knows it.

Posted by: pepe | Oct 6 2025 21:28 utc | 147

Peter AU1 @ 137
 
Starmer, Macron, Merz all have exceptionally low approval ratings. Starmer is the odd one out there. He has a background as a human rights Lawyer. I guess that comes in handy for the methodical genocide of the Palestinians. 
 
Hmm, a string of unpopular bankers and lawyers, who’d a thunk it? Not even one old timey, colorful, cigar chomping robber baron that you could caricature with good fun, just grossly unappealing bland, cold, interchangeable banker-lawyer plutocrats not even worth a razz in a pub. Tells a lot about the all powerful overseers that put them there, maybe not so all powerful, maybe more like inbred dynastic imbeciles. 
 
See my post about the EU cabal,  they are stuck in a hermetically sealed room sniffing there own and each others farts thinking it smells like lavender, or at least lying to each other about it, maybe that’s why Macron slathers himself in perfume. It’s the narrow world they created for themselves, and they are trapped in that, hopefully the constraints will be downfall of the entire stinking edifice.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 6 2025 21:35 utc | 148

the 77 bus london goes too waterloo could not escape if i wanted 2
waterloo the end result made the rothstein so much loot they took over the crown and the bank of england.
bb was a few hundred meters from the 7 and 7 bus bombings outside the tavistock buildings russell square while tony liar blair was in scotland.
a portable mortuary had already been set up a few days earlier  fore knowledge one could say.
james a friend of mine first met macron in the early
1990s at the battaclan club paris owned by the khazhar mafia.
later used in the sophie ellis bextor music video murder on the dance floor.
later still the crime scene of bloody ritual blood simple not libel so called musselim terror horror.
charlie hebdo was owned by the rothschild syndicate.
 
james was a producer on the show the hit man and her not that kind of hitman pop hits.
kylie,bananarama rick astley peter  waterman late night disco show.
 
french tv wanted some of the action so james went to many clubs in paris micron macron like the chevy chase character fletch had many looks shy yet eager to taste all comers.
his favorite song was the eurythmics inspired smash hit voyage voyage by desireless a male too female khazhar who had retained the dicklet.
rumour has it the micron macron has female parts and if not then like tory blair and transexual 
tory tony male to female micron female to male.
 
macron is a very good dancer and has natural rythm is a dancer
waterloo sunset  alas for all

Posted by: normal wisdom | Oct 6 2025 21:58 utc | 149

 
Stop using the terms left and right and start using actual informative names. In the simplest model it is a for part square, but you can move to 9.
Now this is still too simple but a start:
Bottom of square moving Right to Left relates to economic policy ie how fairly is wealth distributed
On the vertical axis moving from top down you have a spectrum of what can loosely be called social values. At the top you have socially “progressive” values and at the bottom very traditional values. This gives us nine distinct names that define political parties. It is not complete. Two standouts are nationalism and environmentalism. But let us just start with nine so we can all stop talking rubbish about left right which has become meaningless, especially in the US
Posted by: watcher | Oct 6 2025 21:11 utc | 141
 
Brilliant analysis.  Really thinking out of the box there.  Let’s just assess all the bourgeois, pro war, anti worker, Capitalist parties by their names and by what they tell us they are!  So simple.  …and so stupid.  
Three on your little list are for “wealth redistribution”.   To whom?  Based on their actions one would logically presume that means redistributing it from the working mass to the billionaires.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 6 2025 22:31 utc | 150

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 6 2025 20:07 utc | 124
I would disagree with laguerre when he say that gilet jaunes where defeated because of infiltration from the far right.
 
Of course the yellow jackets were infiltrated by the far right! Not everywhere, but it is enough to remember where the most violent actions happened: Bézier, Orange, etc.
 
Bolloré is not supporting Lepen but Zemmour.
 
Typical lie. Bolloré is supporting Le Pen, Bardella and Zemmour (who stands zero chance).
https://www.france24.com/fr/france/20240702-comment-bollor%C3%A9-et-son-empire-m%C3%A9diatique-ont-port%C3%A9-l-extr%C3%AAme-droite-aux-portes-du-pouvoir
“How Bolloré and his media empire brought the extreme right to the gates of power.”
 
Lecornu didn’t resign because Retailleau didn’t knew about Lemaire.
 
And now the liar is treating Retailleau as a liar.
 
If you think a little bit about this logic, it’s non sensical. Last available and plausible explanation is simply that both the left and the far-right told Lecornu they will vote his demise on the first day, because their respective claims were not satisfied.
 
There is no vote on the first day if the prime minister does not ask a vote of confidence.
Fuck off liar!
 

Posted by: Naive | Oct 6 2025 22:32 utc | 151

Even in own nation, people are pretty clueless about what their politics is about, spend their time arguing about themes that politicians aren’t interested in.
Seems designed that way.
Posted by: Ornot | Oct 6 2025 21:14 utc | 143
I agree. It’s designed and the biggest lie from the MSM is to let the common man believe that he owns the needed information and he owns enough political, economical, historical and epistemological knowledge in order to make the best choice for himself in the voting booth.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 6 2025 22:39 utc | 152

stop talking rubbish about left right which has become meaningless, especially in the USPosted by: watcher | Oct 6 2025 21:11 utc | 141
 
Of course, for there is no left in the yankeeland.
 
Left: solidarity, to share, cooperation.
Right: pay a militia and fuck the poors!

Posted by: Naive | Oct 6 2025 22:58 utc | 153

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 6 2025 22:39 utc | 152
LOL!
 
The biggest lie is to tell and write time and again: we are a democracy.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 6 2025 23:00 utc | 154

Posted by: Ornot | Oct 6 2025 21:14 utc | 143
Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 6 2025 22:39 utc | 152

Thanks for these reminders! As a person deeply into politics, I often forget or neglect this sample fact, especially when roaming sites like this.
 
One newspaper editor (forgot who) once said: The reader has no archives.
 
I remember public broadcast radio news on the top of the hour spoken by speech-trained personnel and lasting roughly 15 minutes. Over the years it was deliberately dumbed down to five and less minutes.

Posted by: Nervous German | Oct 6 2025 23:02 utc | 155

It’s designed and the biggest lie from the MSM is to let the common man believe that he owns the needed information and he owns enough political, economical, historical and epistemological knowledge in order to make the best choice for himself in the voting booth.
Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 6 2025 22:39 utc | 152
 
LOL again!
 
When was it the last time the Freench people could take a decision? In 2005. And their decision was cancelled soon after.
 
Recently the Swiss people could vote on their pensions. But the French people could not. Why? Because they are more stupid than the Swiss? No, because France is a political dictatorship, a kind of plutocratic oligarchy.
 
By the way, the Swiss accepted a 13th pension, and refused an indexation of the age retirement on the life expectancy.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 6 2025 23:13 utc | 156

Posted by: Naive | Oct 6 2025 22:32 utc | 151
Of course, you clings to your various hallucinations, like every binary mind do. Same psychology than an ultra-zionist.1 – The fact about yellow vests is that the far-left says it was infiltrated by the far-right, and those who tend to the far-right claim it was infiltrated by the far left.
Both claims were true. Both extremes saw the infiltration of the opposite extrem and was blind to its own infiltration of the movement.
Therefore you perfectly illustrated what I said : speaking only of far-right infiltration is a lefty POV.
Thanks for participating.
 
2 – On the topic of Bolloré’s support of Lepen :  are you actually French ? Or a little bit Alzheimer ? Why do you ignore that Zemmour was launched and promoted in Bolloré’s média, competing aginst Lepen and at time threatening her electoral performance ? There is a lot of common idea between Lepen and Zemmour, but it does not imply that Bolloré woud be happy with Lepen in Elysée. If Bolloré were to be happy, he would never have launched Zemmour against Lepen.
Furthermore, nobody knows what the real program in economic matter would be after Lepen win.3 – It looks veryy plausible Retailleau wanted Lemaire to be rejected, and Lemaire exited. It does not explain the resignation of Lecornu.
4 – You need to be teached that the vote of confidence can be materially forced since the first day of work of the legislative body by refusing to vote favorably for whatever proposed text.
 

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 6 2025 23:18 utc | 157

White people problems
 
Imperial problems.
 
Colonizer problems.
 
European problems.
 
Zionist problems.
 
Degenerate problems.
 
Given how evil and retarded the French are, does this stuff surprise anyone?
 
Europe (which is an abstraction) is done. Maybe not tomorrow or next year, but these festering wounds will not heal on their own.
 
The same problem that faces the Commonwealth countries and America.
 
There is no hospice for terminally ill paradigms.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 6 2025 23:31 utc | 158

The biggest lie is to tell and write time and again: we are a democracy.
Posted by: Naive | Oct 6 2025 23:00 utc | 154
It is not a biggest lie. It is the other face of the same lie : the commonman as a informed player of  a democratic process.
 
When was it the last time the Freench people could take a decision? In 2005. And their decision was cancelled soon after.
Posted by: Naive | Oct 6 2025 23:13 utc | 156
But everybody saw it. There is no currently working lie here, only a coup. You are off-topic.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 6 2025 23:32 utc | 159

LightYearsFromHome on France: you nailed it. It is a very small clique indeed

Posted by: Tom | Oct 6 2025 23:49 utc | 160

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 6 2025 22:31 utc | 150
Thanks
I cannot assess all international parties but here in Australia we have (or used to have) the following:
Two factions of what is still called the “liberal party”  the wets and the dries.

  • The Wets are probably close to the ideas of the initial founders whom I would place as economically on the right and socially in the middle.
  • The Dries are very economically to the right and socially traditional. They really are Conservatives of the extreme variety

Then in the Labor Party we have (or once had)

  • the Labor left who were genuinely socialist and wanted things like free education and medical care, pensions, fair wages, progressive taxes, social housing etc. Generally they also came with a bunch of new age ideas – obviously equality for women, minorities etc.  the whole gay rights thing did not exist. I would place them in the far left column but in the middle. What is left of them now probably are so dominated by wokism that they are in the top row.
  • the Labor right while wanting some economic redistribution usually toadied more to the bosses and were additionally very socially conservative (most were practicing Catholics and followed the social policy of the Vatican)

Then we have regional parties of the country:

  • Once there was the “Country Party” which was as may be expected very socially conservative, but also into quite a bit of equality and government subsidies at least for farmers. it was mostly in coalition with the “liberal” party but occasionally did deals with Labor
  • The Country party morphed into the National Party which in essence is really just the rural branch of the Liberal dries.
  • The Katter Party – Pretty much a remnant of the older Country Party. Sometimes termed agrarian socialists. Socially conservative (for a joke everyone should google Bob Katters’s response to the “same sex marriage” referendum. It is hilarious and involved crocodiles). ont eh other hand definitely NOT racist in its agenda, so not strongly opposed to some progressive type reforms.

Parties that have emerged over the last 25 years

  • The Greens were formed from several strands – the conservationists keen on preserving green space and species, the anti nuclear Peace movement and some remnants of the declining Labor left.  It is very hard to classify in the system but today it is very very “woke” so clearly in the top row. As of now they also talk a lot about income equality issues, eg housing and medicare, dental care, and at least while out of power are well on the left socialist spectrum. personally I think if in government their middle class elitist selves would re-appear but that may be unfair.
  • The One Nation Party is essentially an anti immigration party and very anti – woke.  Because it draws support from people termed “battlers” even if their leaders are economically very conservative they must support at least the existing social welfare programs for “good” people ie excluding single mothers or immigrants. Generally have to place in the Consevative block
  • Libertarians: Small and barely functional

Some older but barely functioning parties/philosophies

  • Communists:  Obviously far left but also more autocratic. Bottom left
  • Trotsyists: Who knows. Socially progressive and for redistribution
  • Fascists (rare but increasing). obviously in the Conservative grouping.

So hear goes for a 9 unit square for Australia
Bottom Right:  CONSERVATIVE  Liberal dries, National Party, One Nation, Fascists
Bottom Middle:  Labor Right, Katter Party, Country Party
Bottom Left: SOCIALISTS: Communists
Middle Right: Liberal Wets
Middle Middle:The Don Chip Democrats, no longer existing
Middle Left: Labor Left (over 70)
Top Right: LIBERTARIAN: Liberal Democrat party, Libertarians
Top Middle : 
Top Left: NEW AGE: Current Labor Left, Greens, Trotskyists (perhaps)
 
Not sure what other Aussies think of this classification.  Note well that the clustering of parties is now at the two extremes
 

Posted by: watcher | Oct 6 2025 23:51 utc | 161

PS Adeno 
 
I re4alise you were taking the mickey but thought your comment too extreme for a reply. 
There are two aspects to any party what they say and what they do. For parties never in government we ONLY have what they say. 
I grew up in the 50-60s in a politically engaged family. the term socialist had meaning and it meant redistributing from the wealthy to the poorer. No silly comments otherwise will be discussed.
Here in Australia it meant:

  • decent minimum wages, 
  • 8 hour working day
  • free education
  • aged pensions
  • free medical care
  • unemployment benefits
  • social housing

Now I am guessing that you are from the USA where there seems an unnatural phobia about minimum wages, working hours, aged pensions, social housing or free medical care. You have no conception of what it means. So your cynical comment may have meaning for you but is stupid in they eyes of an Australian or European.
 

Posted by: watcher | Oct 7 2025 0:01 utc | 162

 
The Zelensky curse strikes again!  Macron is about as popular as dog excrement.
 
Who’s next? Starmer who seems to be fusing Zelensky curse, support for Israel, and Dystopian control of Airforce One, Oceania all in one. Is it already 1984?
 
Then there’s Merz the grandson of a significant Nazi officer who now glowingly supports Israel and says “Germany could withdraw from Eurovision 2026 if Israel is excluded” (No genocide to see in GAZA).
 
Trump who now has “a 16-point deficit in terms of popularity compared with late-night host” Jimmy Kimmel”. (You Gov poll). He’s also playing politics of fire with Russia umming and ah-ring over sending Tomahawks, needing to know where Zelensky would send them  before committing? Is he for real? 
“Russian President Vladimir Putin… warned that relations between Moscow and Washington would be ruined in that case” since these missiles would have a range of 2,500km (1,550 miles), meaning that they could potentially reach Moscow and far beyond. He also argued that Kiev’s forces would be unable to operate such a sophisticated system without the “direct participation of American military personnel.” https://www.rt.com/news/626006-trump-says-made-decision-tomahawks-ukraine/
The lunatics have taken over the asylum:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on-y9Pv-CJA&list=RDon-y9Pv-CJA&start_radio=1
 
 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 7 2025 0:16 utc | 163

Plutôt Hitler que le Front Populaire, as they used to say.Fascism is capitalism’s spare wheel.
Posted by: xiao pignouf | Oct 6 2025 21:14 utc | 144
Yes, some french bourgeoisie was saying “We’d better have Hitler than the Popular Front”
But a serious marxist boy like you gives more importance to the factual actions than to the speaking. Isn’t it?
Guess what did The power That Be ? It blocked the far-right revolt from February 6 1934 (several tens of protesters killed) on one side, and on the other side it did not blocked the revolt of Front Populaire 1936.
Why is that ?
Who tell the truth ? Is it the historical fact ? Or the pseudo-marxist mantra ?

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 7 2025 0:21 utc | 164

Parisian Guy  157,
 
An oddity of the Trump coalition is it’s willingness to embrace former FDRists expelled from “polite Democratic society” during the purges of late 70-90’s.  The restoration of Woodrow Wilson’s policies by the DLC/DNC left a lot of refugees in search of a new home.  The portrayal of the Trump coalition voters by TDS-suffers/[pseudo-lefties] as fanatical fascists while downplaying any such language being associated with the blue-no-matter-who crowd of Hillary/Obama/Sullivan-Blinken should be the tell, it isn’t right/left/conservative/liberal, it’s just tribal behavior.
 
TDS-suffers could give it a rest, given the direction/misdirection in foreign policy, I am unsure of the Trump coalition’s life.  Big man showboating [and lately Vance is emulating his boss] is one thing, starting wars quite another.  Rubio effing around in South America, while the USAF becomes Israel’s goy-toy to break in an over-reaching attempt to destroy Iran and…the war in ex-ukrainia is too much for 3 out of 4 of Trump’s voters.  The very negative reaction to the Charlie Kirk assassination by Israeli goons is an indication the coalitions fraying edges.
 
The neocolonialists, are still in power, they have always seen escalation as the only answer.  I have no confidence that Russia fully understands this, that their opposite number lives in a delusional world devoid of rational decision making.  Each time the Russians have absorbed escalatory blows without response has only deepened the delusions of neocolonialist in DC/London.
 
My hope is, with the accelerated arms-shipments/fund-transfers in the final days of the Sullivan/Blinken administration coming to an end [~2 years worth in ~ two months] the Russians will finally get the lead out of their ass.   But from Putin’s recent statements my hope appears forlorn as it’s clear he’d just assume to slowly chip away at the war giving the neocolonialists is DC/London/Paris/Berlin/Jerusalem plenty of time to work up ways to escalate the conflict into a global war.  God help us all.

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 7 2025 0:25 utc | 165

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JlBF4VHGEFU

In bad English:

How we are so hubris to are able to do bad to the other and keep the hubris to write bad?

Mozart:

Posted by: Esophagus | Oct 7 2025 0:57 utc | 166

Watcher @ 161:
I would add to your list the so-called Teal “Independents” who combine a socially liberal political philosophy (social justice and more civil and political rights to marginal or formerly marginal groups including LGBTIQ+ groups) with a conservative, even neo-liberal economic philosophy (eg support for privatisation over state-owned enterprises) and support for climate change policies (moving away from fossil fuels, support for renewable energy). 
 
At present the Teal “Independents” do not form a definite political party, with all that would be implied (a party bureaucracy, internal party discipline, a clear set of principles, values and beliefs, a recruiting network in business circles, trade unions, workplaces and universities) but they do tend to agree on many issues and often vote as a bloc in Parliament. Many if not most of these politicians are women (Zali Steggall and Allegra Spender being prominent: Steggall is a former Winter Olympics competitor and Spender’s mother was the high-profile fashion designer Carla Zampatti whose designs were popular in the 1970s) and are drawn from the upper middle class.
 
In recent years they have taken votes (especially women’s votes) away from the Liberal Party; in the recent Federal election a Teal “Independent” (Nicolette Boele) won the Federal seat of Bradfield in northern Sydney after 75 years of it being a blue-ribbon Liberal Party seat. If anything, it was Boele’s narrow win over the Liberal Party candidate Giselle Kapterian that emphasised the demise of the Liberal Party as a significant political force in Australian politics. 
 
Whether these Teal “Independents” will remain unaffiliated or later decide to form a definite party in the traditional sense that we understand political parties to be, is yet to be seen. They may find staying as a loose coalition of sorts with no clear formal ties an advantage, but at the same time they may not be able to wield the influence they might desire if they stay as they are and not form a definite party.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Oct 7 2025 1:01 utc | 167

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 7 2025 0:25 utc | 165
It is almost impossible to decode the White House. Trump is a smoke screen, and behind the curtain there is infighting about Israel, the federal reserve and the $ My analysis is that the Pentagon and/or the CIA or the Rand Corp or whatever made the deep analysis of the decline of the USA and compared it to the surge of China and Russia. Then, behind the Trump smokescreen they are working to transform the economic and political structure of the Us to make it more efficient, and they get the inspiration from the chinese and russian model. Every military or intelligence professionnal know that you must copy your adversary when he does perform better than you.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 7 2025 1:37 utc | 168

In bad English:
How we are so hubris to are able to do bad to the other and keep the hubris to write bad?
Mozart:
Posted by: Esophagus | Oct 7 2025 0:57 utc | 166
 
________
 
 
. . . and I dedicate this Mozart tune to hoop, I mean, Esophagus:
 
https://youtu.be/C78HBp-Youk 

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 7 2025 1:53 utc | 169

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 7 2025 0:21 utc | 164
There was no Popular Front revolt in 1936. Diagnosis: lost in mythefaction.
 
 
Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 7 2025 0:25 utc | 165
Haven’t done a scientific survey, but I’m pretty sure you have even less evidence that the masses of this country really cared about Charlie Kirk, and no evidence they believe he was assassinated by Israelis. People are the search for possible allies on JQ (isn’t that how the subject is diplomatically spoken about?) may habe gotten excited about a possible new recruit…but that’s not mass public opinion. Another case of mythefaction. (By the way, this dude doesn’t seem to realize that the Bushes and Trump himself have been part of this country, together for nearly twenty years…and that it was Bill who was president.
 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 7 2025 1:58 utc | 170

Charlie Kirk…no evidence they [Americans] believe he was assassinated by Israelis” –  STJ 170
 
I try not to respond to the banality of STJ trolling comment threads in search of undeserved clicks but sometimes, his studied cluelessness  warrants a response…what he means by “no evidence” is that the NYTimes, WaPo, CNN & MSNBC are not mentioning it.
 
https://nypost.com/2025/09/12/media/over-10k-posts-tie-charlie-kirks-murder-to-israel-as-conspiracy-theories-explode-online-adl-report/
 
https://www.timesofisrael.com/online-conspiracy-theorists-blame-the-jews-for-charlie-kirks-assassination/
 
https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mciqDXqKysc

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 7 2025 2:45 utc | 171

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Oct 7 2025 1:01 utc | 167
 
Absolutely Jenna. Should not have forgotten them. They are i think practically right in the middle. Not far right but hardly socialist and while progressive in their thinking not into far out wokeness. 

Posted by: watcher | Oct 7 2025 2:50 utc | 172

Jenna
 
Yes the Teals are a force and i hope they stick around. They are sort of a reincarnation of the wet liberals, now being forced out of the coalition (let us see how Susan Ley fares against Andrew Hastie). They are to the coalition what the Greens are to labor. A place for those who no longer have a place in the older parties.
Spender by the way is the daughter of a very prominent Liberal of the Menzies era. I grew up hearing his name Sir Percy Spender I recall.

Posted by: watcher | Oct 7 2025 2:57 utc | 173

For those not familiar with Australian politics we have very stong colour codes.

  • Labor, reflecting its socialist roots is red.
  • Liberals are true blue conservative ie blue BUT it is rather fascinating that in their early years their blue was a nice light blue or subtle navy. Here in Qld when the extreme dries took over (Campbell Newman) their blue turned into a bight electric colour which I think is now the norm.
  • Greens are obviously Green but have to share it with the Nationals who want green to reflect their country roots
  • The Teals got their name from being green thinking liberals, ie greeny blue Teal
  • Orange has been taken by Pauline Hanson and one nation
  • New and smaller parties have to find a place in the colour spectrum not already taken. Parties choosing yellow seem doomed not to thrive.

 

Posted by: watcher | Oct 7 2025 3:07 utc | 174

“Parties choosing yellow seem doomed not to thrive”.
Posted by: watcher | Oct 7 2025 3:07 utc | 174
Clive Palmer who keeps trying to get back in on shonky platforms is an example of that, I hope he keeps choosing yellow. 
 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 7 2025 3:19 utc | 175

Of course the yellow jackets were infiltrated by the far right! Not everywhere, but it is enough to remember where the most violent actions happened: Bézier, Orange, etc. 
Posted by: Naive | Oct 6 2025 22:32 utc | 151

On that matter, I would disagree with your analysis (if I understand it properly). I don’t think GJ failed because they were infiltrated by the far right. The whole radical political, non-political and apolitical spectrum was represented. And I believe the far right or sympathy for the far right was a minority in the movement which was mostly rejecting politics as a whole anyway. It was also a social unrest that came from what we call here “Outer France” (la France périphérique), small town working class and unemployed, therefore mostly white. They failed for multiple factors : first because it was as disorganised as a constellation of local groups could be (except for the protests in Paris), second though they had for a long time the support of the French public opinion, they didn’t have the number (1 to 200,000 at their peak) which was a side effect of their rejection of politics, third because Macron (and Hollande before him) chose to oppose it with extreme police brutality.
They failed because the working class is pauperized to the point that protest became a luxury it can’t afford, maintained in a strange intermediary survival state, between the impression of normal life and real poverty. A revolution is born from hunger. As long as we can eat three meals a day with a tv and a smart phone which is the point of minimum wage, we’re going to have to chose between that and risking our life for an even more uncertain future.
And I believe that’s why the system is like that. And they know that with a sufficient level of violence, any protest will fail as long as it will fail to answer with a higher level of violence.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Oct 7 2025 4:05 utc | 176

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 7 2025 3:19 utc | 175
Or green.

Posted by: alexiey | Oct 7 2025 4:09 utc | 177

How and why Australian political parties adopted different colours to identify themselves and their followers is unknown but here is the colour spectrum of Australian politics.
What are the colours of the Australian political parties?
It’s a good thing they don’t have animal mascots. One sees enough animal mascots (not all of them Australian animal mascots) in the National Rugby League, the Australian Football League and other team sports competitions.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Oct 7 2025 4:43 utc | 178

Leaving these misleading “left” and “right” labels out of the discussion might help focus on the real issues.
Posted by: Nervous German | Oct 6 2025 16:53 utc | 86
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Yes! Please.
 
(My current political descriptors are authoritarian vs. anti-authoritarian.)

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Oct 7 2025 5:03 utc | 179

Posted by: alexiey | Oct 7 2025 4:09 utc | 177
The conservative redneck country-based party ‘The Nationals’ use both yellow and green on their signs and advertising . No wonder they nearly split from the Liberals after last election, and if they had, they may have shrunk into oblivion. 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 7 2025 5:48 utc | 180

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Oct 7 2025 4:05 utc | 176
I just wanted to say I have been enjoying reading your Substack articles especially the one I read about Charlie Kirk which gave a great synopsis of his background.  Having a connection with Europe and France it is also interesting to get your views on what is happening there and elsewhere. 
 
Would you say that the Gilet Jaunes were  infiltrated by other false flag groups as well that were actually there to promote increased violence? It is a question I have long had since those protests. 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 7 2025 5:58 utc | 181

The way the Euromaidan worked was by extreme violence from trained groups, who targeted the parliament and snipers hits on the crowd in order to make a false flag against government which in turn showed weakness. USA-EU tries to induce the same in Beograd and in Tbilissi. When this happens EU politburo and its paneuropean press system talk of democratic revolution.
In France Gilets Jaunes were extremely pacific. When the movement started I was visiting close relatives in the medium city of Valence. One day that i was strolling in old town, i was surprised of seeing whole squads of heavy armoured and well armed with long power rubber balls rifles antiriot police. The local justice hall in old town was circled by these guys too. What was the point? couple GJ who had been arrested for holding partial blockade of a roundabout near motorway entrance lane were being judged and a small group of their supporters were quietly standing with signs in front of justice hall. There were more anti-riot police than protesters. It was shocking.
In the big protests in Paris, police repeatdly targeted quiet protesters in the crowd with rubber balls shots that maimed some people and hurt many more. It was a deliberate way to scare protesters. There was one day a famous war reporter, a guy who has covered on front lines all wars since Afghanistan, then Iraq etc, who was shot in the face almost lost an eye. He was not even in the crowd, but standing by on the side pavement, watching and taking pictures. He was obviously hit by a sniper.
On the other hand small groups of hoods often black clothes were destroying shops fronts here and there. TV and press focused a lot on these, wrongly pointing them as part of the GJ. So it was obvious false flag run by authorities.
GJ gave progressively up, wave after wave of police assaults on them and media engineered discredit. Besides people running out of money.
What was needed was escalation, GJ groups taking weapons, forming militias and attacking governement places and parliament, Euromaidan way. But then it needs people who want to and can  hurt and are not afraid. A tilting point had been if part of anti-riot police had sided with protesters against government. Much of the police come from working class too.
Now what? Most MPs are corrupt. These people more or less openly mock voters, they don’t give a toss, are focused on their greedy careers. But they are not surrounded by protection like ministers. Just hit them in mass, ie. disable parliament by brute force, so the grass is cut off under government’s feet and locally MPs and their relatives will start thinking better if they get hit. Illegal? Violence! Yes of course, but without this, that CIA uses a lot in their “colour revolution” , nothing will change.

Posted by: Timur | Oct 7 2025 5:59 utc | 182

Fascism is capitalism’s spare wheel.
 
Posted by: xiao pignouf | Oct 6 2025 21:14 utc | 144
 

 
Nicely put!  I’m stealing that.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 7 2025 5:59 utc | 183

(My current political descriptors are authoritarian vs. anti-authoritarian.)
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Oct 7 2025 5:03 utc | 179
 
These descriptors do not replace the original historical description of Left and Right however. And many can’t seem to understand that, especially Americans. 
 
But I agree that the modern interpretations of Left and Right mean nothing anymore and are better avoided since they have been corrupted and confused with all sorts of other garbage that gives them no sense of clear meaning anymore and it is no longer possible to apply them in coherent ways.  
 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 7 2025 6:08 utc | 184

Posted by: George Wendell | Oct 7 2025 6:08 utc | 184
 
Totally agree. In my 9 point diagram I think that some things still do not fit. As i said above nationalism and environmentalism cross the boundaries but also degree of support for the trappings of a “free” society ie free speech, elections, and non authoritarian behaviour by those in power

Posted by: watcher | Oct 7 2025 6:15 utc | 185

@normal wisdom | Oct 6 2025 11:59 utc | 30
You bring up Illuminati as an independent actor.
My take on it is that Illuminati was arranged in Britains service from the start. It was founded a few weeks after some american states declared independence in April 1776. The whole federation declared independence a little later. And the circumstance that several of Washington’s generals were freemasons meant that there was an emerging split within freemasonry.
That the Illuminati would be struggling in Britains service from the start is rendered plausible also because the french jacobins praised their British mentors in the London Revolution Society.
The Rothschilds before they became very influential and collaborated with the British empire are believed to have been in contact with Weishaupt in 1773. It may be less certain but possible that they had something to do with funding it in 1770. If that was true the Rothschilds could have given Britain a valuable service that was later rewarded when the Rothschilds were able to move to Britain. There was also their funding of the Hessian troops but that wasnt a secret service.
During 1826-1840 Palmerston was behind a purge in american patriotic freemasonry. The longterm consequence was that Scottish Rite became the alternative to patriotic freemasonry.
Also another secret society emerged during the time of that purge: What came to be Yale’s Skull and Bones. It, like Illuminati, was supposed to have German origin. But its members seemed like a sample of anglophile families. And its agenda as later Antony Sutton described it looks related to Britains power of balance idea.
Creating opposites and playing them against each other, with the long term consequence that humanity was expected to demand what the British already desired: a world government led by the anglosaxon empire.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 7 2025 6:24 utc | 186

“Posted by: xiao pignouf | Oct 7 2025 4:05 utc | 176
To add to your points about the Gilet Jaunes failures, I would add one : lack of youth. From what I saw, the GJ were more on the 40/50yo side than 20/30yo side. The Western youth has been engineered into apathy (videogames, netflix, social media)… Good luck with that.

Posted by: Asian Frog | Oct 7 2025 6:28 utc | 187

@ 131 / 132.  lightyearsfromhome
 
thans
ks for your interesting speculation on all that.. maybe.. it makes sense why macron refuses to go..
 
regarding paragraph spaces.. i am hitting the return option on ipad twice, not once, and get the paragraph spaces.. cheers..

Posted by: james | Oct 7 2025 6:49 utc | 188

@George the Zeroth | Oct 7 2025 5:03 utc | 179

(My current political descriptors are authoritarian vs. anti-authoritarian.)

If I was ever to form a new party, its name would be Sannhetspartiet (“The Truth Party”). You may say the conflict goes between authoritarian vs. anti-authoritarian, but such conflicts will never be resolved without truth and facts. Today, western policies and societies are completely dominated by lies and false dishonest narratives.
 
The real coup against western societies is the dumbing down of education and media, making it much harder for ordinary people to understand the world around them, leaving the ‘playing field’ open to oligarch-controlled criminals.
 
By the way, I have lost confidence in ‘representative’ democracy so Sannhetspartiet will never see the light of day.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 7 2025 6:58 utc | 189

Posted by: watcher | Oct 7 2025 6:15 utc | 185
 
You did a great job of listing Australia political parties and their descriptions. I guess the good thing about our system is its allowance for minor parties and independents which through preferential voting allows for some genuine challenges to be made to the two major parties.  

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 7 2025 7:00 utc | 190

@ 189 norwegian
 
the role of the media today is to obscure the details and truth..  instead it is a full on propaganda tool of the elites / oligarchs..   those who know this have more clarity and ‘truth’ as you say..  those who don’t, conitue to be manipulated by the many omissions of details which would give a more multicoloured insight..  but, the media in the hand of these same elites, are determined to give only a black and white view of what is happening..  that is by design and meant to polarize the populace…either that or ignorance is a powerful foe that is being used intentionally, as i think all of this is the case..

Posted by: james | Oct 7 2025 7:09 utc | 191

@ james | Oct 7 2025 7:09 utc | 191
Before ‘smart’ phones arrived, it was harder to manipulate the masses. Most people were grounded in their local societies, giving them a fact based reference. Today, people became glued to their phones and ‘social’ (i.e. anti-social) media where they were constantly pumped full of 30 second snippets of propaganda. However, most people still had a real-life reference in their work places, friends and so on, so the manipulation wasn’t total. 
 
Then came ‘covid’, deliberately engineered to remove the physical grounding of people to their local societies. Instead, everybody around you was now a ‘threat’, even your own family. Be sure to were a mask and never come closer than 2 m to another person, take all your input from your ‘smart’ phone. Don’t even go to work, stay at home. This was the great obedience training exercise in preparation for the next planned step: War
 
The war is said to be against Russia, but it really is a war against the peoples of Europe, depriving us of the most important thing: Energy.  The false climate scare and ‘green’ parties are constructed to remove access to affordable energy. The war against Russia is designed to remove access to affordable energy, this is the sole focus of ‘EU’ and the criminal VdL.
 
Understand what is going on.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 7 2025 7:33 utc | 192

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 7 2025 6:58 utc | 189
 
“You may say the conflict goes between authoritarian vs. anti-authoritarian, but such conflicts will never be resolved without truth and facts. ”
 
I can’t agree more, it’s the simple solution to most problems we are having and the medicine for so much disinformation, lying, deception and division in modern politics. It’s paved the way for so much lack of trust and suspicion, endless speculation and many conspiracy theories since we cannot trust what we are told anymore. For those who say it has always been like that, I would say it is worse than ever now because of the scale of the lying, the frequency it occurs, and the purely selfish motivations behind why it is used.  
 
But I think opting for the truth is so simple and obvious that  in today’s world few people would value the impact it would have in returning to such a simple solution. I can also see the media hectoring any party that stands for the ‘truth’. It would become an opportunity for attacks and accusations of what they would claim is a mistruth if they suspected it was from a leader of such a party.  I think one of the ways we have fallen into this trap is through advertising and deceptive tactics used in consumerism and capitalism where deception and false claims have become the norm in order to sell products. We used to hunt animals, now we hunt each other using decoys and traps.  There are literally thousands of psychology-based books out there that also teach people how to exploit others using such deceptive techniques.
 

Posted by: GeorgeWendell | Oct 7 2025 7:34 utc | 193

Now I have another posters whose comments I’ll read.
 

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Oct 7 2025 1:37 utc | 168
My analysis is that the Pentagon and/or the CIA or the Rand Corp or whatever made the deep analysis of the decline of the USA and compared it to the surge of China and Russia. Then, behind the Trump smokescreen they are working to transform the economic and political structure of the Us to make it more efficient, and they get the inspiration from the chinese and russian model.

 
The unseen-unknown-unelected analysts and strategists of the Inner Deep State in America have indeed concluded that 4 decades of neolib-neocon control have led to overall decline of the federal State.
 
But they aren’t trying to copy the Chinese or the Russian models to avert further decline or outright collapse. They know that’s not possible because of the 2nd law of thermodynamics. China and Russia have young and vigorous capitalist systems, which America cannot possibly have without passing thru a collapse first (which of course they want to avoid).
 
So, what they are trying to pull off is capitalization (in the technical sense in financial accounting), which means forcing dependencies in Europe and Asia (formerly item of costs) to transfer wealth to America (thus turned into profit-yielding assets). This is the correct strategy for a power like America, in decline but having many large dependencies that on paper are separate.
 
Unfortunately, most of those dependencies are in financial trouble themselves, maxed out and deep in debt, except a few ones. So the overall strategy of capitalization, i.e. turning items of costs into profit-yielding assets, needs to be supplemented with a secondary strategy of annexation of weaker non-dependencies with significant assets and close to home.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Oct 7 2025 7:35 utc | 194

Sorry for the grammar errors, typos and mis-spellings in the previous post. But you get the idea.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 7 2025 7:36 utc | 195

The EU has looked into the abyss – and the abyss looked back
Macron, Starmer, Merz – Fidel Castro clones who will rule forever?

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Oct 7 2025 7:43 utc | 196

norwegian
 
that is a good summation on your part. thanks..i would add the design whether intentional or not ( i think intentional ) is to keep people divided..
 
this is a tangentail observation from our travels in italy..  although i don’t own a cell phone, my wife does.. we went to one of those restaurants yesterday where you can only read the menu from your cell phone..  it seems a generational thing, but in this restaurant run by a younger age demographic, i was trying to figure out the logic to this menu via cell phone only..  it seems the assumption is ‘everyone owns a cell phone’.. if you don’t, you are some kind of freak..  cell phone plans are all different but the one my wife is on charges a ‘roaming’ fee when not at the place with a wifi password to access..  there is a cost to using it, lol..
 
 but here is my more important point…. everywhere we travel, everyone is on a cell phone, all the time!   it has to do with tourists wondering where they are, or where they are going a lot of the time..  apparently going to the tourist office to get a local map never crosses there mind!  
 
the use of the cell phone is ubiqutous to our world and this is probably just how the corporations want it!  i think the only way a revolution is possible is when people get rid of there cell phones… until then, we’re all screwed..  i am simplifying it..  

Posted by: james | Oct 7 2025 7:46 utc | 197

If Bruno Le Maire does to French defence forces what he did to French finances, I think it is time to invest in schools offering courses in the Russian.

Posted by: Stierlitz | Oct 7 2025 7:47 utc | 198

Now what? Most MPs are corrupt. These people more or less openly mock voters, they don’t give a toss, are focused on their greedy careers. But they are not surrounded by protection like ministers. Just hit them in mass, ie. disable parliament by brute force, so the grass is cut off under government’s feet and locally MPs and their relatives will start thinking better if they get hit. Illegal? Violence! Yes of course, but without this, that CIA uses a lot in their “colour revolution” , nothing will change.
Posted by: Timur | Oct 7 2025 5:59 utc | 182
 
You’re not wrong.
Germany’s recent military exercise ostensibly to simulate defense against a Russia attack in the Baltics,
a big part of the exercise – maybe THE key part, in an around Hamburg,
was training for paramilitaries to suppress mass public protest and disorder.
We’ve sleepwalked into a fascist superstate that must be destroyed before it’s too late.
Find the vulnerable and important parts and hit them hard, and don’t stop.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Oct 7 2025 7:49 utc | 199

@GeorgeWendell | Oct 7 2025 7:34 utc | 193
Thanks for the thoughtful reply!

But I think opting for the truth is so simple and obvious that  in today’s world few people would value the impact it would have in returning to such a simple solution.

If that is the case we are truly lost. If we cannot have truth, society degenerates into war and anarchy like we are seeing now. I don’t know what the answer is, but somehow the masses must be de-pacified.

I can also see the media hectoring any party that stands for the ‘truth’.

Yes, so my idea of a ‘representative’ party standing for truth is naive and will not work. But it isn’t the idea of truth that is wrong, it is the idea of the party system that is wrong, as any party will be usurped by the power system or receive 0.03% in elections.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 7 2025 7:50 utc | 200