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October 10, 2025
Nobel Committee, Fearing Trump’s Wrath, Hands Peace Prize To Regime Change Puppet

The President of the Unites States Donald Trump had demanded to be given the Nobel Peace Prize. But following that demand would have been disastrous for the already blemished prestige of the Nobel. The government of Norway, which strongly influences the decisions of the Nobel Peace Prize committee, was in a pickle:

With hours to go until the announcement of this year’s Nobel peace prize, Norwegian politicians were steeling themselves for potential repercussions to US-Norway relations if it is not awarded to Donald Trump.

Mr Trump has long been outspoken about his belief that he should be awarded the peace prize, an honour previously bestowed on one of his presidential predecessors, Barack Obama, in 2009 for his “extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples”.

In July, Mr Trump reportedly called Jens Stoltenberg, Norway’s finance minister and the former Nato secretary general, to ask about the Nobel prize.

The newspaper columnist and analyst Harald Stanghelle speculated that retribution from Mr Trump – if it were to come – could take the form of tariffs, demands for higher Nato contributions or even declaring Norway an enemy.

After some talks behind the scenes it was decided to give the price to a different person than Trump but with the very obvious intent to also satisfy Trump by furthering a major foreign policy aim of his:

The Nobel Peace Prize was awarded Friday to Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado who lives in hiding after attempting to run against President Nicolás Maduro.

Machado, 58, was recognized for keeping “the flame of democracy burning amidst a growing darkness” and “ever-expanding authoritarianism in Venezuela.”

She leads the Vente Venezuela opposition party, but was blocked from running as the nation’s president and expelled from office in 2014. She now lives in hiding and faces “serious threats against her life,” the Norwegian Nobel Committee said.

The Trump administration has long aimed at ousting Nicolas Maduro, the socialist leader of Venezuela. It has positioned its military assets around the country and is planing from regime change under false pretense:

Shortly after taking office, Trump declared Tren de Aragua to be a foreign terrorist organization that had “flooded the United States with deadly drugs, violent criminals, and vicious gangs.” In July, the president ordered the Pentagon to target certain Latin American drug cartels. By August, there were eight naval vessels—including destroyers, a cruiser, and a littoral-combat ship—operating in the Caribbean Sea. By September, the first of four boats had been struck, and 21 alleged drug traffickers have now been killed. Last week, the administration sent a confidential notice to Congress signaling its intent to carry out more strikes. The campaign could extend inside Venezuelan territorial waters or include drone strikes inside its land borders, defense officials told us.

But it is far from clear that the ties between Maduro’s government and Tren de Aragua are as extensive as the Trump administration has suggested, or that they exist at all. Ronna Risquez, author of the book El Tren De Aragua, told us there was “no evidence” that Maduro leads gang or drug-smuggling operations; an internal memo from the U.S. National Intelligence Council arrived at a similar conclusion. It’s also not clear that Venezuelan drug operations, centralized or otherwise, are significant enough to merit the country being singled out as a threat to American lives. Venezuela is not a major cocaine or fentanyl producer. And even though most of the world’s cocaine grows in neighboring Colombia, Venezuela is also not a major transit hub.

Trump’s anti-‘narco-terrorist’ campaign is clearly aimed at regime change. This despite extensive offers by the Venezuelan government to allow the U.S. to profit from Venezuelan riches (archived):

Venezuelan officials, hoping to end their country’s clash with the United States, offered the Trump administration a dominant stake in Venezuela’s oil and other mineral wealth in discussions that lasted for months, according to multiple people close to the talks.

The far-reaching offer remained on the table as the Trump administration called the government of President Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela a “narco-terror cartel,” amassed warships in the Caribbean and began blowing up boats that American officials say were carrying drugs from Venezuela.

Under a deal discussed between a senior U.S. official and Mr. Maduro’s top aides, the Venezuelan strongman offered to open up all existing and future oil and gold projects to American companies, give preferential contracts to American businesses, reverse the flow of Venezuelan oil exports from China to the United States, and slash his country’s energy and mining contracts with Chinese, Iranian and Russian firms.

That offer wasn’t enough for a greedy Trump:

The Trump administration ended up rebuffing Mr. Maduro’s economic concessions and cut off diplomacy with Venezuela last week. The move effectively killed the deal, at least for now, the people close to the discussion said.

The Trump administration did away with generous offer because it is confident that its plans for regime change will achieve a total domination over Venezuela.

The new Nobel Peace Prize laureate, María Corina Machado, plays a big role those plans.

Who is that lady you might ask. In July 2024 the NY Times published a friendly portrait of her (archived):

Ms. Machado, a conservative former member of the national assembly once rejected by her own colleagues, has not only corralled Venezuela’s fractious opposition behind her, but has also captivated a broad swath of the electorate with a promise for sweeping government change.

If the opposition wins, Mr. González, 74, will be president. But from Washington to Caracas, everyone understands that Ms. Machado is the driving force behind the movement.

She became a political activist in 2002, helping to found a voter rights group, Súmate, that eventually led a failed effort to recall Mr. Chávez. She was a darling of Washington — the U.S. government provided financial aid to Súmate — and became one of Mr. Chávez’s most detested adversaries.

But it wasn’t just the government that loathed her. Among colleagues in the opposition, she was often viewed as too conservative, too confrontational and too “sifrina” — Venezuelan for “snobbishly high class” — to become the movement’s leader.

She has said that the politician she most admires is Margaret Thatcher, the conservative icon known for her stubbornness and fealty to the free market. And Ms. Machado has long supported privatizing PDVSA, the state oil company, a move other opposition leaders say would put Venezuela’s most valuable resource in the hands of a few.

Machado, while on the U.S. payroll, was involved in a 2002 military coup attempt in Caracas:

Questions still surround Ms. Machado’s actions in 2002, when dissident military officers and opposition figures led a short-lived coup meant to oust Mr. Chávez. Ms. Machado was at the presidential palace during the installation of a new president, Pedro Carmona.

In the 2005 interview with The Times, Ms. Machado insisted that she and her mother were in the palace that day only to visit Mr. Carmona’s wife, a family friend — not to support the coup.

More recently, in a 2019 interview with the BBC, Ms. Machado called on “Western democracies” to understand that Mr. Maduro would only leave power “in the face of a credible, imminent and severe threat of the use of force.”

Machado even asked the Zionist war criminal Benjamin Netanyahoo for military support in a coup (edited machine translation) :

María Corina Machado asked the prime minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, a military intervention in Venezuela, through a document posted on its social network X in 2018.

Machado described the military intervention of “power and influence” against the Venezuelan government.

“Today sending a letter to Mauricio Macri, President of Argentina, and to Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel, to ask them to apply their strength and influence to advance the dismantling of the criminal regime in Venezuela, intimately linked to drug trafficking and terrorism,” she wrote.

In addition, the document points out that Machado was “convinced that the international community, according to the doctrine of the responsibility to protect, is called to give Venezuelans the support needed to generate the change,” a change of government.

Machado is still in cahoots with (and likely still payed by) the U.S. to further regime change in Venezuela (archived):

[U.S. Secretary of State] Rubio met with five opposition figures in May who secretly fled to the United States in what he called a “precise operation.” He has praised the opposition leader, María Corina Machado, whom he called by her nickname, the “Venezuelan Iron Lady,” in a tribute this year.

Pedro Urruchurtu, an adviser to Ms. Machado, said in an interview that the opposition had developed a plan for the first 100 hours after Mr. Maduro’s ouster that would involve a transfer of power to Edmundo González, who ran for president against Mr. Maduro last year.

“What we’re talking about is an operation to dismantle a criminal structure, and that includes a series of actions and tools,” Mr. Urruchurtu said, adding: “It has to be done with the use of force, because otherwise it wouldn’t be possible to defeat a regime like the one we’re facing.”

The opposition’s plans include persuading other governments to take diplomatic, financial, intelligence and law enforcement actions, he said.

To recap – the Nobel Peace Prize committee is giving the price to an opposition politician in South America who is on the payroll of the U.S. government and has been involved in previous military coups attempts in her country. Her advisor is arguing for the use force to overthrow the government. Ms. Machado’s plan is to the sell out whatever Venezuelans have to the foreign empire that pays her.

The Nobel Committee and Norway may, for now, have saved themselves from Trump’s wrath but the decision to award the prize to Ms. Machado is another huge blemish to its record.

Comments

Ahenobarbus | Oct 10 2025 14:37 utc | 70
 
Question: what should the trophy look like and what is the gift to go with it? A bust of B and a good bottle of wine?
 
Good idea. The trophy should be a big MoA lunar crescent (see top left of page). That’s enough!
 
Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 10 2025 15:00 utc | 74
 
I nominate Karl to preside over the award ceremony.  

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Oct 10 2025 15:43 utc | 101

Of course Trump didn’t deserve it. But to award so flippantly? The Nobel Peace price used to have great meaning. Now it is meaningless.

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Oct 10 2025 15:46 utc | 102

I don’t think much of the Nobel “Peace” Prize & I agree with the number one poster*.  The person that should receive the “Peace-Prize” ?
 
Wikileaks Founder, Julian Assange deserves the Nobel Peace Prize
 
The guy was put through a living hell by the Nazis the Swedes/English.  Trump would never had been heard from after 2016 had Julian not revealed what Cheney/Obama/Hillary/Sullivan been up to.  The fact of the matter is, Julian created the heat that brought the kettle of “hidden powers” to a simmer.  The rest of the “alt-voices” folded like cheap lawn chairs, only Julian stuck to his guns until his imprisonment/torture broke him…as it would any other man.
 
Julian Assange deserves the Nobel Peace Prize
 
*[V]oted for Trump and him demanding the prize is obnoxious.  He does not deserve it.  He broke his campaign promise to [even try to] get us out of Ukraine war War Against Russia in ex-ukrainia and…forever wars…better than Kamala [by a long shot] but not been the leader hoped for…   – Fortuna 1

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 10 2025 15:48 utc | 103

Machado is a terrorist linked to assassinations in Salvador, the drug running pals of Guido the Worm currently grifting in Miami, and is a card carrying Izzynazi shmuck.   The Nobel Prize…   well I guess it’s fitting.  Kissinger: millions of deaths in Indonesia and Cambodia. O’bomber’s score:  destruction of Libya, Somalia, Syria, coup in Ukraine, coup against Dilma of Brazil, and a drone strike every day of his miserable regime.  What did I leave out?  So  Machado fits right in.   One notes that ultra zionist Michael Dell proposes to sell $1,000.000.000 of his stock in Dell.   How much of that goes to Machado?  Trump?  Butcher Bibi?   Nobel committee?
In other news, the CIA installed dictator of Peru finally hit bottom with a 3% approval rating and has fled the country.    In fact it seems that many dictators picked by Murika end up fleeing the country.. The bitch in Bolivia.  The bitch in Peru.  Hopefully Machado will as well.
Norway should be ashamed.  Disgraceful.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Oct 10 2025 15:48 utc | 104

I am stunned and disgusted to learn the person planning the mass murders of Bolivarians in Venezuela has won the Peace Prize. 

Posted by: Keme | Oct 10 2025 15:51 utc | 105

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 10 2025 15:48 utc | 103
 
Julian Assange would indeed be a good suggestion. But considering the poisonous nature of the Nobel Awards now, it would be better he stayed clear of  it.

Posted by: Constantine | Oct 10 2025 15:52 utc | 106

@ Johan Kaspar | Oct 10 2025 12:39 utc | 22
 
True, Mister Neighborhood Bully didn’t attend the ceremony, but he did write an embarrassing “Three Books That Influenced Me” acceptance speech that could’ve been written by any semiliterate American high schooler.
 
@ annie | Oct 10 2025 12:51 utc | 27
 
Anyone with ears would have difficulty considering “Bob Dylan”® a singer at all.
 

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 10 2025 15:52 utc | 107

Peace through war is like virginity through sodomy …

Posted by: Savonarole | Oct 10 2025 15:53 utc | 108

Anyone with ears would have difficulty considering “Bob Dylan”® a singer at all.
 
 
Posted by: malenkov | Oct 10 2025 15:52 utc | 107
 

 
The kind of statement made by someone who cannot dance.

Posted by: too scents | Oct 10 2025 15:58 utc | 109

DJT richly deserved the Nobel Peace Prize, of that there is no doubt.
Only DJT could have corralled the psychopathic war criminal Bibi and his crazed cabinet of Gvir, Smotrich and Katz into making the peace deal…….even if Bibi’s actual compliance with the deal is always in doubt.  When is the last time an Israeli government actually obeyed a peace deal anyway?
The end to the mass killing of innocent Palestinian civilians in Gaza and the West Bank is positive, and for that alone he deserves the prize, but he also deserves credit for stopping an Indian/Paki regional nuclear war too, and for the end of the Armenian/Azer war (for how long we do not know).
He claims to end the Kosovo-Serb border war, but I see no evidence of that, but none the less he deserves the award, and I hope he punishes the gutless Norwegians for their decision too, just more DJT TDS.

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 10 2025 16:03 utc | 110

Someone or something will fell DJT’s wrath and quickly too….it will be fun to watch and observe…………

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 10 2025 16:07 utc | 111

1. The igNoble Prize is a Participation Trophy for saluting the European Caste. Thin-skinned man-child Trump – just another gauche grifter looking for garage-sale trinkets.
2. Posted by: Clouds Of Alabama | Oct 10 2025 13:30 utc | 48
Not seeing much different in this Crooke interview. Repeating the over-arching plan of the Greater Israel project on the backs of the protesting American population.  I suggest 59,000 dead, young Americans in Vietnam can never be seen as a win, no matter what camera angles the Dual-Citizens’ Child Molester barks.

Posted by: kupkee | Oct 10 2025 16:08 utc | 112

Given we are nearing peak 1984, it does make sense to “crown” a person endorsing the extra judicial killing of her own people and calling for war on Venezuela as a laureate in “peace”.
 
It’s hard to disagree with Pavel DurovBy betraying the legacy of our ancestors, we’ve set ourselves on a path toward self-destruction — moral, intellectual, economic, and ultimately biological.

Posted by: xor | Oct 10 2025 16:09 utc | 113

lol. Our well known Magic Money Tree paid troll sounds like it resents being assigned to MoA! Hates everyone here,  but posts anyway. Everyone has to make a living, I guess.
 
I wonder if it also resents only getting paid a dime per post instead of $7000/post like hasbarat astroturf does. That’s gotta rankle. All this marketing cash being thrown around and he barely gets enough of it to occasionally gas up the van he parks under a bridge to live in.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 10 2025 16:11 utc | 114

Could have been worse, I understand Guaido nominated himself for it.

Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 10 2025 16:18 utc | 115

@ tobias cole | Oct 10 2025 16:03 utc | 110
 
Now tell us all about Trump’s peacemaking activities in such places as Venezuela, Colombia, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria (don’t forget that Trump had a previous term of office).
 
Even his peacemaking activity — if one wishes to play fast and loose and consider a ceasefire an actual peace agreement — may have less to do with peace than promoting American interests — and of course Trump/Kushner’s business interests in Gaza. 

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 10 2025 16:19 utc | 116

@Norwegian #97
You ask for classified evidence that will not be available until years from now.
You also fail to address my point: When has Norway NOT participated in US dirty deeds? Note again that what I said was Norway was involved – not that Norway was the instigator or the primary agent.
There is all manner of circumstantial evidence that is available:
the US exercise in the precise area of the Nord Stream explosions
the mysterious signal sent out by a US plane
the threat by Biden
the lack of credible investigations by ALL of the Western nations, which all came to nothing. ‘Tis a mystery!
As for Hersh: while you clearly don’t believe it, I do.
There is a vast amount of detail in it, none of which has been definitely disproven – ranging from the initial planning session onwards to means, motive and opportunity of the actual sabotage.
But of course, this is not legal proof…and it is quite clear that nobody in the West wants it.
The ongoing circus of “5 men and a women in a sailboat” nonsense is simply laughable. Even disregarding the preposterous capability issue – finding and emplacing explosives, and coordinating explosions by such a group, without enormous outside help, is utterly non-credible.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 10 2025 16:20 utc | 117

Someone or something will fell DJT’s wrath and quickly too….it will be fun to watch and observe…………
Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 10 2025 16:07 utc | 111
 
_______
 
…because that too is the kind of behavior one would expect from a promoter of peace. /s

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 10 2025 16:21 utc | 118

Tobias Cole 110,Respectfully, I’m not buying your argument.  On the matter of Israel/Bibi, it’s not Trump, he’s just a step’n fetch-it for Israel/Israeli-Americans, [as are all USG officials, Israel/Israeli-Americans rule the USA].  Let’s not pretend, nobody is allowed access to power in the US/Anglicized world without Israel/Israeli-Americans say-so.  That’s just the reality of our times, the US does not have sovereignty and frankly, I doubt Putin doesn’t check and see what Israel/Israeli-Russ want before deciding on a course of action.
 
That said, the “physics” of politics still applies, Israeli-Americans can see that Netanyahu has been too ham-fisted and frankly, too slow in Gaza’s genocide.  They need to find a way out of the PR nightmare Netanyahu has created, Israel/Israeli-Americans will finish enacting the final-solution at another time…when people aren’t looking [see West-Bank for details].
 

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 10 2025 16:25 utc | 119

Yeah Machado is a traitor and US puppet.
 
US-backed opposition leader admits Venezuela ‘is not a dictatorship’ and only foreign intervention can topple Maduro – The Grayzone
 
The US elections are open to more corruption than Venezuela’s.
 
“Many U.S. observers who spoke with MintPress were quick to compare the Venezuelan system favorably with their own. “I am actually kind of blown away by how advanced this system is, particularly compared to the backward nature of the U.S., so I am completely impressed,” Jodi Dean, a professor and political scientist, said.
“We witnessed several polling stations, and we did not see any irregularities or anything that would point to any type of fraud or illegitimacy. The voting process here is much more rigorous than in the United States,” Souers told MintPress. “They have a very good process here.”
Elizabeth Burley, a representative of Unión de Vecinos, a Los Angeles tenants’ union, spent election day monitoring voting in La Guaira state and noted a number of superior features of Venezuelan democracy, including that the polling system is automated and completely consistent between localities. Furthermore, she said, Venezuelan elections are held on Sunday rather than midweek as they are in the U.S., allowing more people to participate. Burley noted that she was able to go inside stations and observe everything and that there were witnesses from both government and opposition parties present. Apart from a few verbal exchanges between left and right-wing voters, she said, events proceeded in a state of calm.”
 
Venezuela: While US Politicians Call Fraud, American Election Observers Endorse Results 
 
 

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 10 2025 16:25 utc | 120

@sam | Oct 10 2025 14:15 utc | 66
Russia was not arrogant in 2009
They might not have survived to build up to its present level of military capacity if they had provoked another Cuba Crisis at that time.
Even now they dont easily make such moves. They only do it when and if is necessary and right now that depends on the particulars in the Ukraine war. At the present they are thinking about the tomahawk missiles. They havent yet made  a clear statement about retaliation on US targets. They have said that Tomahawks will destroy the US-Russia relations.
My guess is sam repetitively used to write similar comments on Russian Insider under the alias ‘a’. I think a said he was from India(?)

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 10 2025 16:28 utc | 121

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 10 2025 16:11 utc | 114
I blocked the Menace of Alabama a long time ago.
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 10 2025 16:20 utc | 117
Add to this the Ukrainian access to the Baltic Sea.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Oct 10 2025 16:29 utc | 122

Posted by: Ramon | Oct 10 2025 13:50 utc | 54

So Maduro was going to sell out Russia, China and Iran? Don’t come crying if you’re on your own now.

That really surprised me. Both the extent of the concessions by Venezuela and their outright rejection by the US. We’re talking about a near surrender of everything that matters for the Empire.
This shows that Uncle Sam still has his gunboat mojo. More concerning, as suggested by the offer’s rejection, is the US confidence in taking this show a step further.

Posted by: robin | Oct 10 2025 16:29 utc | 123

I wonder how many Palestinians are observers in the  Zionist elections in occupied Palestine.
From 2024.
“President Nicolas Maduro won a third term in office on Sunday, promising to continue and deepen Venezuela’s anti-imperialist Bolivarian Revolution. Many in the U.S. quickly denounced the elections as a sham presided over by a dictatorship.
Yet the proceedings were presided over by more than 900 electoral observers from over 100 countries, including the State of Palestine. MintPress News talked to several Palestinians who observed Venezuela’s elections and, in the process, uncovered tremendous and profound links of solidarity between the two nations, whose peoples and struggles are closer than they might appear at first.”
 
Solidarity from Palestine to Venezuela: Meet the Palestinians Observing Venezuela’s Elections

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 10 2025 16:30 utc | 124

Stop shitting on Dylan and go listen to Street Legal, then Blood On The Tracks, and then Desire. In the meanwhile, whether Trump or the Venezuelan woman, “sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace” pretty much sums up Noble Peace Prizes of late, but then that’s an other clue we are living in the 4th Reich, snuck it right up on us suckers:
 

Bob Dylan – Man of Peace (Official Audio)

 

 

 
Man of Peace

Song by Bob Dylan ‧ 1983
 

 

Look out your window, baby, there’s a scene you’d like to catch,the band is playing “Dixie”, a man got his hand outstretched.Could be the Fuhrer, could be the local priest,you know sometimes Satan, you know he comes as a man of peace.
 

 

He got a sweet gift of gab, he got a harmonious tongue,he knows every song of love that ever has been sung.Good intentions can be evil, both hands can be full of grease,you know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.
 

 

Well, first he’s in the background, and then he’s in the front,both eyes are looking like they’re on a rabbit hunt.Nobody can see through him, no, not even the Chief of Police,you know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.
 

 

Well, he catch you when you’re hoping for a glimpse of the sun,catch you when your troubles feel like they weigh a ton.He could be standing next to you, the person that you’d notice least,I hear that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.
 
 
Well, he can be fascinating, he can be dull,he can ride down Niagara Falls in the barrels of your skull.I can smell something cooking, I can tell there’s going to be a feast,you know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.
 
 
He’s a great humanitarian, he’s great philanthropist,he knows just where to touch you honey, and how you like to be kissed.He’ll put both his arms around you, you can feel the tender touch of the beast,you know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.
 
 
Well, the howling wolf will howl tonight, the king snake will crawl,trees that’ve stood for a thousand years suddenly will fall.Want to get married? Do it now, tomorrow all activity will cease,you know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.
 
 
Somewhere Mama’s weeping for her blue-eyed boy,she’s holding them little white shoes and that little broken toy.And he’s following a star, the same one them three men followed from the East,I hear that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 10 2025 16:31 utc | 125

There is a vast amount of detail in it
 
Posted by: c1ue | Oct 10 2025 16:20 utc | 117
 

 
The fun thing is the Florida connection.
 
Southcom ==> https://www.dia.mil/News-Features/Photo-Gallery/igphoto/2001455982/
 
FBI Miami ==> https://syska.com/case-study-of-the-fbi-miami-field-office/
 
LOL! I went looking for the CIA’s footprint in Miami and it has been scrubbed from search engines.  Its huge.  Look for yourself, if you can.
 
 

Posted by: too scents | Oct 10 2025 16:32 utc | 126

^ the spacing on the new forum is a f’ing mess, could be solved with a preview button. Is -b listening?

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 10 2025 16:32 utc | 127

^ the spacing on the new forum is a f’ing mess, could be solved with a preview button. Is -b listening?
 
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 10 2025 16:32 utc | 127
 

 
Why are not empty trailing lines truncated?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: too scents | Oct 10 2025 16:35 utc | 128

As for this Venezuelan color regime puppet:
Mercouris has already failed one prediction: of a US invasion of Venezuela last weekend. He is sticking to his guns.
The many problems I have with his prediction are:
1) Venezuela is not Grenada or even Panama.
Panama has a population of about 4 million; Venezuela’s population is 23 million. The US force that went into Panama was 26000; it would require a lot more, even proportionately, for Venezuela because Panama’s population is basically all in one place.
The US has maybe 10000 troops around Venezuela right now – most of which are Naval personnel and not ground troops. Ground troops – one Marine amphibious assault carrier with around 3000 Marines, Another marine support ship with maybe another 600 Marines, one special ops ship with 100? probably less special ops types, 4 Arleigh Burke class destroyers, a Ticonderoga class cruiser and a couple of support ships.
So we’re talking under 4000 ground troops vs. 23 million population as compared to Panama’s 26000 vs. 4 million population.
2) There is simply NO support for this, even among the Republicans, even among the Boomercons in the conservative side.
Here is a yougov poll, which Rich Baris has endorsed as being credible as well
Note that the majority of people oppose a Venezuela operation even among Republicans.
And to be clear: I oppose a US invasion of Venezuela.
3) While some people are saying this is a “Clear and Present Danger” type of leadup ie a repeat of Bush’s Panama operation ie “Noriega is a drug lord”
The problem is that this operation was very unpopular, and there is no reason to think a reprise of this failure would be any more popular. And whatever you want to say about Trump, he is far more attuned to Americans’ views than any of his predecessors except Bill Clinton.
My view is that Trump is putting pressure on Venezuela in the hope that Maduro gets overthrown internally.
If Trump does invade Venezuela – it will be a political disaster for him and deservedly so.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 10 2025 16:36 utc | 129

How the Yanks and the Zionist occupiers/settlers in Palestine – have pumped million into trying to overthrow socialist governments in Venezuela – without success – so severe sanctions (war by other means) have been placed on the socialist country – simply because socialism works and the Yanks don’t like that one little bit.
 
Its no surprise that Machado’s nickname is the Venezuelan Iron Lady as her role model/heroine is Margaret Thatcher – the now dead nasty piece of work  – adopted the Friedman/Chicago Boys economic role model of, sell everything to the private sector.
 
Maduro vs. US Election Interference: A Battle for Venezuela’s Future

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 10 2025 16:37 utc | 130

Formerly Miss Lacy: “…it seems that many dictators picked by Murika end up fleeing the country…”
 
As well as their lieutenants and most loyal attack dogs. That’s the source of a fair chunk of the Latin American “migrants” that end up in the US, and since those vicious goons tend to be the most visible representatives of Latin America to the regular US population it is why “migrants” get such a bad reputation. Indeed, they give all of Latin America a bad reputation.
 
I’ve spent a while in both Colombia and Venezuela (you should have heard family and friends wailing in anguish about how it would be the end of me every time I went), and the non-fascist, non-gangster normal people there are some of the most wonderful and amazingly friendly people I’ve ever met. I highly recommend backpacking around the region and soaking in the local culture if you’re young or your health is up to it. Travel solo for best experience. You’ll be glad you did.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 10 2025 16:38 utc | 131

More concerning, as suggested by the offer’s rejection, is the US confidence in taking this show a step further.
Posted by: robin | Oct 10 2025 16:29 utc | 123
 
The result will be worse than Bay of Pigs.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Oct 10 2025 16:38 utc | 132

While there have been numerous awful recipients of the Nobel, few of these awards have effectively poured fuel on a developing illegal military regime-change operation the way this does. 

Posted by: jayc | Oct 10 2025 16:41 utc | 133

@S Brennan | Oct 10 2025 16:25 utc | 119
Neocons identify with the US empire and its aim to dominate the world and control as much as possible.
If they didnt go all in for that empire they would not control the US. So its almost tautological to say people like Netanyahu or other Israel sympathies control the US.
Jewish power comes from opportunism.
Mostly intelligently conceived but still opportunism.
Otto Strasser, Hitlers nazi rival, was right to tell Hitler: You overestimate the jews. They are very adaptable.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 10 2025 16:44 utc | 134

“spacing [problem] on the new forum…could be solved with a preview button…”
– LightYearsFromHome 127
 
Or perhaps…a time limited “edit” after post button, say ~2 minutes, nothing more.  Just spitballing.

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 10 2025 16:45 utc | 135

The Venezuelan authorities are wasting their time – the USA has the UN in its pocket. “Venezuela will ask for an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council regarding rising tensions with the US”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 10 2025 16:46 utc | 136

“Norway” trying to slither away… funny.
 
Looking forward to the US declaring open war on Norway, that would be something wouldn’t it? Would they fight back? Would it matter? The US is at least 150 times larger/fatter and good at friendly fire. The war could make the Keystone Cops look organized and efficient, elegant, intelligent, capable, proficient, …professional (oh dear me, and lol).
 
The Swedes would die in ecstasy; easiest genocide ever, so maybe the real war would be on Sweden? They better watch out! :S
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 10 2025 16:48 utc | 137

robin @123: “That really surprised me. Both the extent of the concessions by Venezuela and their outright rejection by the US. We’re talking about a near surrender of everything that matters for the Empire.”
 
Or it is all just fiction made up to “leak” back to Venezuela and undermine Maduro’s support. Spreading a little Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt to politically weaken him. 
 
The Empire really does work that way, and the servile presstitution industry is happy to go along with it, even for Trump.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 10 2025 16:49 utc | 138

MAGA doesn’t care. The Nobel is run by neoliberal worms. The Prize was already given to a regime change puppet, Obama: Libya, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine.
Liberalism is dead in America, thanks to black Hitler Obama and senile Hitler Joe Biden. Libs have blindly supported fascism and war since Obama. Yet it is fun watching leftist scum on this site parrot corporate media’s TDS. The TDS hobbled posters here must’ve cried when Kamala lost — that says it all. Sad!

Posted by: Pharaoh Trump | Oct 10 2025 16:49 utc | 139

“…If Trump does invade Venezuela – it will be a political disaster for him and deservedly so
–  C1ue 129
 
Concur.

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 10 2025 16:49 utc | 140

Posted by: Jean | Oct 10 2025 14:08 utc | 63

A few years ago, nobody would have thought giving the Nobel Prize to Juan Guaido. But now, everything is possible (I’m surprised that Bibi haven’t got it).

Yes, everything is possible. My take is that the populace’s defences are gradually being eroded. Common sense, situational awareness, curiosity and objectivity get chipped away as people are exposed to a regular barrage of managed soundbites.
 
The Nobel prize is like Eurovision, but with a bigger impact. It serves to instill preconceived values in the minds of people that, otherwise, wouldn’t really care about these things but may have objected to the planned belligerence.
This is how wars are sold.

Posted by: robin | Oct 10 2025 16:51 utc | 141

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 10 2025 16:46 utc | 136
 
It is never a waste of time to hold up the Rule of Law. And the madness being noted publicly.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Oct 10 2025 16:51 utc | 142

@ LightYearsFromHome | Oct 10 2025 16:31 utc | 125
 
 
You really didn’t have to prove my point, but what the heck.

Posted by: malenkov | Oct 10 2025 16:53 utc | 143

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 10 2025 16:49 utc | 138

Or it is all just fiction made up to “leak” back to Venezuela and undermine Maduro’s support. Spreading a little Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt to politically weaken him. The Empire really does work that way, and the servile presstitution industry is happy to go along with it, even for Trump.

Could be. Certainly wouldn’t be the first time.
 
Another take: a desperate ploy by Venezuela to force the issue on a foot dragging China and Russia. ‘Hello, little help here? I’m this close to selling the farm.’

Posted by: robin | Oct 10 2025 16:59 utc | 144

The noble peace prize (caps intentionally missing) once again proves itself to be a fing joke. The new Juan Guaido.

Posted by: Thurl | Oct 10 2025 16:59 utc | 145

Self respect in Norway is dead.   How pathetic. 
 
As for the “drug cartels” that the Mighty Wurlitzer has been drumming about for months, a former UN official in charge of following the movement of drugs throughout the world explained what a blatant lie that is.  
Of course, a lie becomes the truth if it’s repeated often enough, as Goebbels pointed out, and as the US proves.Former UN official Pino Arlacchi wrote about the truth.https://orinocotribune.com/the-great-lie-of-branding-venezuela-a-narco-state/

Posted by: wagelaborer | Oct 10 2025 17:00 utc | 146

Thanks b, excellent post. Have already sent it off to friends. A perfect choice for a ‘war  prize’ made possible by Alfred Nobel ‘the merchant of death.’
 
More…
 
David Swanson: Nobel Committee Tried Its Best To Give Trump A Peace Prize
 
https://worldbeyondwar.org/nobel-committee-tried-its-best-to-give-trump-a-peace-prize/
 
“…Trump is not the right type of warmonger. Nobody could do it with a straight face…But the Nobel Committee did the next best thing and must be hoping in vain that Trump manages to understand that.
 
It gave the prize to an opponent of ‘the Venezuelan regime’ and practically insisted on the Trumpian overthrow and takeover of Venezuela in the name of ‘democracy’…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 10 2025 17:07 utc | 147

There’s a vid circulating of Ms. Machado speaking to the Israeli ambassador confirming that it will be her priority mission to move their embassy to Jerusalem. Just in case anyone had any doubts that the Nobel committee wasn’t a propaganda organ for the Zio nazis. 

Posted by: Ralph Conner | Oct 10 2025 17:09 utc | 148

Petergrfstrm 134,
 
You should not mistake my use of the term, “Israeli-Americans” with the term American-Jews, the are not interchangeable. Many American-Jews are disgusted with Israel, Israeli-Americans and the whole “master-race” chosen-people shit-show.  It’s very hard for your average American-Jew to speak out or, even to have a voice in the matter. The media would ignore such a person and he/she would be black-listed and often times disowned by family members.
 
In this manner, the Israel-First movement in the US/Anglicized world is no different than the Nazi Party in the 1930’s, before the death camps but, long after anything could be done about it.  And in this, the uppermost-crust of the resettled-Anglo-Saxon-Jutes/English play a larger than life role.

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 10 2025 17:12 utc | 149

Posted by: Constantine | Oct 10 2025 14:57 utc | 73  I don’t agree with MMT, which Clouds of Alabama pushes relentlessly. But I don’t recall any pushing for Democrats, and I assure you there are no significant MMT Democrats, which said commenter probably knows better than I do. I suspect you’re just butthurt at the embarrassment of Trump’s prize hunting. 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 10 2025 17:14 utc | 150

I can’t recall who said it but on the day that Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize they said it was the day that irony died. Perhaps irony has been resurrected? They could call the prize the Nobel Ironic Peace Prize.

Posted by: Vragtes | Oct 10 2025 17:17 utc | 151

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 10 2025 16:03 utc | 110  Are you really William Gruff under another name? TDS still isn’t a thing. I will point out to you that Trump’s peace plan puts himself as Chairman of the Board of the protectorate of about half the Gaza Strip (and a claim to the offshore gas fields.) But then I suppose you would like to give Leopold the Belgian king who operated Congo as his private property a retroactive prize?

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 10 2025 17:23 utc | 152

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 10 2025 16:11 utc | 114  Translation: I support Trump’s Nobel too but not even I am stupid enough to say so directly so I’ll ignore everything to make up shit about someone else! 
 
Well, no, he didn’t actually say that. But if he can make up dialogue, so can I.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 10 2025 17:26 utc | 153

People in the Republican Party are still offended that a man who insiscriminately sinks ships off the coast of Venezuela was not given the Peace Prize

Posted by: Noam A Larkey | Oct 10 2025 17:31 utc | 154

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 10 2025 16:49 utc | 140  Why set the bar so high? To let Trump off the hook? The easy and obvious alternative to invade is to raid. You know, as in bombing Yemen and Iran (and by proxy Gaza and Ukraine.) And doing it in support of an internal coup where the Peace Laureate promises an easy win? Just a handful of troops to in a surgical operation to consolidate the new regime as the masses rise up against the evil Bolivarians (who by the way all have TDS?) I see no reason at all to think the Trump cultists would have a problem with anything Trump did. And when it comes to matters of empire, the Democrats are just a loyal opposition, emphasis on loyal. 

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 10 2025 17:35 utc | 155

@S Brennan | Oct 10 2025 17:12 utc | 149
I agree 
And zionism and nazism are two of the cults presumably all conjured up by people with a background in academia.
Those who base their analysis on older strands of jewish history to find connections with zionism find stuff but it doesnt mean the actual format had anything to do with the distant past, but had everything to do with the imperial aims at the time. That is equally true for how the British influenced nazism. As well as Islamism.
The important historical role of academia may partly be covered up due to academias connection with intel, but also with the connection to the occult since that in turn also is connected to intel according to Aleister Crowley who was in the midst of it serving the British government.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Oct 10 2025 17:55 utc | 157

Trump’s continous harping about getting the Nobel Peace Prize is pure misdirection – I’d be really surprized if actually getting is in any way part of DJT’s agenda.
What worries me *much* more is that it be given to Machado – with DJT putting so much emphasis on it, everyone was paying undue attention to it, hence are paying more attention to Machado having received it. She, of course, is the Deep State’s (new) Juan Guaido – except she was, previously, even more unpopular than Guaido, but there was no one else of any stature to act as designated new President of Venezuela for when the US does its kinetic lunge to sieze Venezuela. The Deep State picked Machado specifically to boost her credentials as the new US puppet to replace Maduro.
Buckle up – the strike against Venezuela may not go as well as the US believes…

Posted by: Simpleton | Oct 10 2025 17:56 utc | 158

[~25-30% of ] People in the Republican Party are still offended that a man who indiscriminately sinks ships off the coast of Venezuela was not given the Peace Prize voted for Kamala    – Noam A Larkey 154
 
…and those [~25-30% of ] “People in the Republican Party” are delighted Trump was not given the Obama-Peace-Prize.  And frankly, this Trump voter thought Julian Assange deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.  BTW, the world is not flat no matter how 2D-dimensional your world view is.

Posted by: S Brennan | Oct 10 2025 18:04 utc | 159

This is very entertaining.
 
I love when hypocrites are compelled to expose themselves.
 
Every institution has been revealed for what they are. Enablers of evil and abstractions protecting imperialism.
 
The UN, the ICC, the ICJ, the Nobels, international law, WHO, etc.
 
All destroyed.
 
Muppets will have to find new Gods to worship.
 
And, that is, IMO, progress.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 10 2025 18:07 utc | 160

And there is another obvious troll, Louis Proyect Lite, who hates MoA also and would never come here except under orders from his paymasters!
 
For those who are confused by how contemporary dembot political marketing works, here is a primer:
 
First, Team Blue has no policies that anyone wants. They have nothing to offer, so they cannot say “Vote for me and I will do this for you!” In fact, since they can’t offer anything they put lots of energy into making it seem like politicians who do make promises are the bad guys; they’re evil “populists”! Since all politicians will just do whatever the oligarchy demands anyway, the politicians who make promises are the bad guys and the ones who don’t make promises are the good guys!
 
Or at least that is where their messaging starts from.
 
But how does Team Blue expect to get votes if they have nothing to sell? Ah, that is where they think they are clever! You see, the voter has no alternative! They must vote for Team Red or Team Blue, so all Team Blue has to do is demonize Team Red and drive the voters away from them, then sheepdogs will round the voters up at election time and herd them into the Blue camp. Easy! Get elected without ever promising the voters anything they might try to hold you to later!
 
This bold strategy is why Team Blue initially loved Trump. Back in 2016 he seemed the perfect target for a daily two minutes of hate to keep the deplorables in line. Unfortunately that didn’t work as expected for Team Blue and they couldn’t understand why. Certain their basic strategy was correct they doubled down on it, and doubled down again, cranking the hysteria pressure up to ludicrous levels. Still, the deplorables stubbornly refused to join the hysteria, and the only people influenced by it were the ones who were already committed to Team Blue, but lacking any other option they over and over again doubled down of the sensationalist freakery, flooding every medium with their bile. TV shows, movies, college lectures, “news” infotainment, music, everything they could think of was weaponized to push the hysteria. Two minutes of hate turned into ten years of hate; nonstop forced over-stimulation from every possible direction of hate and anxiety associated with Trump. Tragically it largely only affected the Team Blue faithful, pushing their minds beyond human endurance until their minds fragmented.
 
And thus Trump Derangement Syndrome was created.
 
So hopefully the reader can now see dembot marketing when it shows up in these fora. It is now composed of purified hyper-demonization of everything related to Trump. It is all they have left, and indeed the monomaniacal fixation on their hatred of Trump is all that holds the fragmented pieces of their psyche together; a kind of gravitational singularity that unifies and defines their every post. 
 
But at least they don’t have to make and defend any promises they have no intention of keeping anyway. There is that going for them.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 10 2025 18:14 utc | 161

If US invades Venezuela, Venezuela opting for second strike inside US using manpads grenade launchers javelins etc. targeting only military installations and troops protecting them, how many manpads, javelins and grenade launchers would be needed? It would be thing to see. Venezuela already invaded, and the urban guerrilla fighting in US mainland, rockets launched by pillion rider, drive by shooting, a few drones, though ISR has to be disabled to some extent by cyber means, simultaneously triggering invasion of the homeless into everything and everywhere, broadcasting that capitalism is a lie, that US had been capitalist for 250 years, that the average joe is still poor. It just might work. How many manpads, javelins and grenade launchers rocket launchers are needed?

Posted by: rqa | Oct 10 2025 18:16 utc | 162

This (UToob) is what I see whenever a TDS victim posts.
 
“Trump! Trump! TRUMP!!!!!”
 

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 10 2025 18:26 utc | 163

The ‘prestige’ and importance of the Nobel prize is greatly overrated. 
A thing for the western bubble where they can pat themselves on the back.
 

Posted by: tred | Oct 10 2025 18:33 utc | 164

Does anyone understand William Gruff Epstein when he speaks in Q-tier jargon?
 
Inside jokes played to one hand clapping.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 10 2025 18:35 utc | 165

The fact that Maduro wanted to make big concessions to the US and turn his back to his BRICS partners is disappointing. 
Still with a large armed civilian militia, any forced regime will struggle to subdue the population. 
 
Hopefully Bolivia, Colombia, Venezuela and Brazil form a WARSAW PACT style security agreement. 

Posted by: Suresh | Oct 10 2025 18:39 utc | 166

Thinking about it seems the Nobel committee found a way to play Trump’s emotions, they snubbed his magnificence but legitimized his upcoming fabricated attack on Venezuela, the Nobel Seal  Of Approval for regime change. Maybe they sent Trump a note saying that He will get The Yuge Prize with all the Pomp, Parade, and Box of BonBons only after he conquers Venezuela. Incentive 4th Reich style, they know Trump is lazy, fickle, and distracted.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Oct 10 2025 18:46 utc | 167

There is another point about the Guaido incident, that may be related to the Machado attempted coups. That is the number of otherwise nearly sane Governments in the world who supported Guaido, claiming falsely that he had “legal” standing for the UN and similar bodies,and giving him the Venezuelan assets in their possesion (Gold, finance etc).  By giving Machado a “noble letter of “purity”, might this allow other Governments (who are now covert Zionist supporters among other things) to claim that she is the ONE that they have in mind. Note that Trump forbade Iranian Diplomats to attend the UN in New York, and he might again try to do the same substitution of the legal Government of another country, by one of his choice.
 
So logically, I can imagine the knobblers actually asked Trump himself, if this substitution would be useful to him. The other thing is that it is not ONLY a question of mineral and other riches that occupies the avarice of Rubio and others, but a change in society that will allow corporations, billionaires and nefarious thieves and robbers to strip ALL the assets, at their leisure. Excluding the inhabitants through “social” change (and by the introducion of electoral dishonesty).
 
See what has happened to Argentina. As well as being a physical retreat for the iDF and a way they can get retirement benefits without paying for them, it is now being further “opened” up by the disistrous financial situation Milei has created. One can see that a similar situation could easily happen to Venezuela, and probably all the South American countries that have ideas of independence and social improvement for the indigenes (Original populations).

Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 10 2025 19:00 utc | 168

disistrous => a typo disaster that should be “disastrous”

Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 10 2025 19:05 utc | 169

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 10 2025 18:14 utc | 161  Demonizing the opposition as TDS is all this clown has to offer.  He gives his own example of what he’s supposedly decrying in the comment. It is no accident that the liar never dares ask what other commenters actually think or want, he just makes up dialogue for them. All you need to know about the dude’s comments, they are ultimately: Trump rah rah rah!

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 10 2025 19:05 utc | 170

Putin on Trump’s Israel-first ‘peace’ plan…
 
Trump’s Peacemaking Efforts Undeniable – Putin
 
https://www.rt.com/russia/626198-putin-trump-peace-nobel/
 
“The efforts that US President Donald Trump is putting into resolving international conflicts cannot be disputed, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Friday, commenting on whether the American leader deserves a Nobel Peace Prize.
 
The committee has a record of honoring people ‘who did nothing for peace,’ Putin remarked, without calling out any specific names. Conversely, Trump ‘is really doing a lot to resolve difficult crises, which last for years and decades,‘ he added.
 
The recent mediation in the Middle East, if it leads to Donald achieving all his goals, everything everything he said he wants to do,  would be historic event,’ the president added…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 10 2025 19:11 utc | 171

Does anyone understand William Gruff Epstein when he speaks in Q-tier jargon?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Oct 10 2025 18:35 utc | 165
 
First signs of dementia.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 10 2025 19:20 utc | 172

Flattering DJT is a way to keep him under control. A little.

Posted by: scc | Oct 10 2025 19:21 utc | 173

She’s a US-Funded Regime-Change ‘Activist’
 
https://x.com/AliAbunimah/status/1976617408036229277
 
“Did you think Gaza doctors [or Gaza journalists] might get the Nobel Prize for Peace? Nope. It went to Venezuela’s Marina Machada, here addressing ‘Patriots for Europe’, an ultra far-right group, which includes Israel’s genocidal Likud Party. She’s a US-funded regime-change ‘activist.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 10 2025 19:23 utc | 174

@ b
 
“… the decision to award the prize to Ms. Machado is another huge blemish to its record.”
 

Posted by: Don Firineach | Oct 10 2025 19:42 utc | 175

The people complaining about TDS have to be paid performers.  The world is NOT more peaceful now than it was when he came into office.
 
Biden could have created peace in the Middle East by cutting off US aid to Israel and sanctioning Israel.  Trump could also have done it.  Easy as pie.  Venezuela is a new war zone that Trump went out of his way to create.  Showing off that we are above the law by blowing up boats near Venezuela is just one more war crime for the Trump administration.  It will be a race between Trump and Biden to see which administration does a better job of proving that the US is above all laws and above all moral considerations.
 
Hegseth called in all of the top military leaders to specifically make the point that US military actions will NOT be constrained by moral or ethical considerations.  Trump’s speech right after that can be taken as agreement with our Secretary of WAR.
 
Trump is just as evil and destructive as Biden was.  Biden destroyed liberalism in the US, as Pharoah Trump discussed earlier.  Trump is doing the same to rural Americans.  Trump’s tariffs are bankrupting non-millionaire farmers.  The farmers that become homeless once they lose their farms?  The FOX solution is to give them involuntary lethal injections.  One way to double the average wealth of our farmers is to kill half of them.

Posted by: Woke American | Oct 10 2025 19:52 utc | 176

I am a bit surprised that Maduro attempted to negotiate with Trump regarding oil and gold mining. I’m sure Maduro is aware that Trump is agreement-incapable and that it is always a bad strategy to negotiate with a bully. Perhaps he did so, knowing in advance that Trump would rebuff the offers, in order to raise Venezuela’s standing in the field of diplomacy. 
 
However that is. it seems unlikely that Venezuela will fold without a struggle. Maduro is popular and has support from other S.A. leaders. 

Posted by: Clever Dog | Oct 10 2025 19:54 utc | 177

@ Posted by: John Gilberts | Oct 10 2025 19:11 utc | 171
 
Putin is a master diplomat and knows very well how to sweet-talk idiots like Trump.

Posted by: Clever Dog | Oct 10 2025 19:57 utc | 178

 MorePain4Cakes (142).
 
Getting it on record yes, but the UN will do nothing – its HQ is in New York and its mostly funded by the Americans.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Oct 10 2025 20:04 utc | 179

scc 173 – could not agree more, he has a giant ego, no doubt, but still he can make things happen i.e.: the peace deal in Gaza or the peace deal in the India/Paki war.
But the idea of making Gaza the Riveria of the ME is really a pipe dream, first the entire region needs to be rebuilt for human habitation after the IDF has turned it into Berlin ’45.  
All the civilized infrastructure has been destroyed including the hospitals, water systems, waste water treatment systems, city administration structures, police stations, fire stations, the road net, telecom system, churches and mosques, food stores, the port and airport.
And by the way Hamas, PIJ, Fatah, and PFLP fought hard and well against overwhelming odds and are still standing.  Does anyone really think that they will just trot out and dump arms under IDF supervision, as Tony Blair envisions?
That is not going to happen.  Even if there are new elections, don’t expect that Hamas will not be players in that election (not really possible at this point anyway because the IDF has deliberately destroyed all Gaza civil records on property and citizenship).
The entire basis of civil government has been eliminated by design by the IDF and the crazed war cabinet of Bibi, Gvir, Smotrich and Katz, just handing this horrendous situation to Tony Blair, of all people, is an insult.  Only the Palestinian people now subjected to a second Nakba can determine their future direction.  They are not Western slaves, they are an independent people.
The Arab world can shower Gaza with cash and they will, but only with true independence can the Palestinian people be free to make their own decisions.  And the Israelis and DC will agree to that?  LOL
Until a fully independent Palestinian state is created this latest installment of the ’48 war will continue for the forseeable future.

Posted by: tobias cole | Oct 10 2025 20:08 utc | 180

I think Putin is hugely mistaken to keep praising Trump. The US is actively engaged in the war against Russia, delivering intelligence and weapons, even though those now have to be paid by the European vassals. Then there are the sanctions, the threats against countries supporting Russia, or that just want to be neutral. Also Putin’s support for Trumps plans for the continued occupation of Gaza will absolutely do nothing to improve Russia’s standing in the rest of the world. While I can understand how careful Putin wants to avoid an open war with the west (everybody knows a hidden or not so hidden war is ongoing), I think these positions are completely unnecessary, undermine the potential support for Russia from people who are worried by the US descent into open fascism, or from anybody who feels in solidarity with the Palestinian people.

Posted by: Ronald | Oct 10 2025 20:13 utc | 181

@cc #28
Just remember how the warmongering  EU got the prize in 2012.
 

Posted by: Apollyon | Oct 10 2025 20:15 utc | 182

Ronald | Oct 10 2025 20:13 utc
I agree completely.

Posted by: spudski | Oct 10 2025 20:21 utc | 183

President Trump Thanks Putin After Slamming Nobel Committee Over Snub — Putin Says ‘Trump Solves Complex Problems’ While Nobel Prize Has Become a Joke
 
Now that is a funny headline. Is VVP finally learning how to troll?

Posted by: frithguild | Oct 10 2025 20:22 utc | 184

https://t.me/myLordBebo/84115
https://t.me/myLordBebo/84113
 
 

Posted by: Apollyon | Oct 10 2025 20:27 utc | 185

William Gruff, I have in fact spent time in Colombia and Venezuela.   Also Mexico and the now tragic Ecuador.    Met some great people.  
Unfortunately there are also some very bad ones.   Pinochet comes to mind.   Machado and her assassin pal Gonzales.     There is some sense to the remark that perhaps by declaring her Bitch in Chief she could take control of more Venezuelan assets, but I don’t know if there is much left which Guido the Worm hasn’t stolen.
Stonebird #168. Yes Argentina is very worrying.  It’s been full of Izzies for quite some time.    Word is that a huge chunk of Patagonia is now owned and gated by zionist billionaires.     The IDF on “r+r” come expecting everything for nothing and do great damage.   A few years ago 1000s of acres of the Chile side of Patagonia – the Torres del Paine Park – were burned to the ground by a lying irresponsible izzy who built an illegal fire.    When the fire burned out of control he simply went back to Izzyhell without saying a thing.    Chile eventually tracked him down, but I don’t know if reparations were paid.   Yes it’s a small thing compared with the destruction of Gaza but I don’t get the images of 1000s of rare protected species which burned to death.    Disgusting “people” I don’t find the right word.  They are not human and most of the animals I know have more integrity than any dozen Izzies.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Oct 10 2025 20:29 utc | 186

https://t.me/myLordBebo/84111?single

Posted by: Apollyon | Oct 10 2025 20:29 utc | 187

96 and 99, lol, why not both?!
wake me up when the Nobel for economics goes to satoshi …

Posted by: E | Oct 10 2025 20:31 utc | 188

“The Nobel Prize is not worth a poo-stained piece of toilet paper.”
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Oct 10 2025 12:26 utc | 14
 
Nonsense. You could sell the frame it came it for $3 on eBay.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Oct 10 2025 20:34 utc | 189

Like trump i also was very disapointed not to receve the nobel peace prize, for 50 years of  tirerlessly standing up against fascism and fascists on the streets and laterly for 12 years here on the great MOA blog.
A bit more reckognition both here and there would have been ‘nice’
Failing that b should of got the nobel peace prize i feel.

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 10 2025 20:42 utc | 190

Statement by the Norwegian party FOR (Peace and Justice) for which Glenn Diesen was a candidate in the recent parliamentary election:

Norway must leave the distribution of the Nobel Peace Prize!
Statement by Peace and Justice (FOR);Norway must leave the distribution of the Nobel Peace Prize!
 
Peace and Justice state that after this year’s award to a Venezuelan US collaborator, the Nobel Peace Prize will only be able to be restored by the fact that the Storting resigns in charge of appointing the committee.
 
The authority and the will money must be transferred to a country worthy of the task.
 
Through a number of years, the Parliamentary Committee has systematically ignored Alfred Nobel’s will. The award has often been given to people and organizations working for good purposes, but who do not have direct peace and disarmament to do.
 
With this year’s allocation, the Committee has gone a step longer, giving it to a political activist who cooperates directly with a regime in the United States that has worked more openly and directly than any previous regime to undermine all elements of international law.
 
The award is a reward to the West’s international law criminal sanctions policy towards Venezuela, which has now also switched to open military aggression from the United States. The goal is to ensure US control over the world’s largest oil reserves.
 
Marina Machado is no human rights advocate and no democracy activist. She represents the old elite in Venezuela who, in exchange with securing their own privileged position, are willing to cooperate with the US’s upcoming intervention forces.
 
The award is disgusting, but not surprising. It must be seen in the context of Norway’s final goodbye to the identity of peace nation, about Norway’s embrace of the role of an aggressive contributor to NATO’s imperialist politics. We clearly see this in Norway’s growing role in funding NATO’s proxy war against Russia in Ukraine, and in Norway’s active support for Israel’s genocide on the Palestinians through the massive investment of the Oil Fund.
 
Peace and Justice therefore require the Norwegian Storting to resign the responsibility of appointing the Nobel Committee. Responsibility must be transferred to a country that may be worthy and competent to carry out the role.
 
South Africa may be such a country, given the country’s active role in the maintenance of Folkrett, with the subpoena of Israel for genocide in the International Court of Justice.»

https://partiet-for.no/2025/10/10/norge-ma-frasi-seg-utdeling-av-nobels-fredspris/

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 10 2025 20:45 utc | 191

Maybe the nobel peace award should only begiven when we actuoaly get peace.
Just a thought.

Posted by: Mark2 | Oct 10 2025 20:46 utc | 192

Flattering DJT is a way to keep him under control. A little.
Posted by: scc | Oct 10 2025 19:21 utc | 173
 
Yep! Works very well with narcissistic personalities.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 10 2025 20:48 utc | 193

This “prize” became the “war dynamite prize”.
 
To the trumptards who wrote – sincerely thinking about it – that  this megalomaniac psychopathic liar deserves this “prize”, they conveniently forget that he bombed Yemen and Iran, killed Soleimani, sent weapons to the ukronazis during his first term, supplied weapons to help the judeonazis to go on with their genocide, did nothing to stop the colonisation of Cisjordania.
 
This racist cannot accept that a metis got that fucking prize and not him.
 
If he will start a war against Venezuela (of course it is not abour drug, but oil), he could receive that war prize next year.
 
Of course he does not know where the drug is coming from. What a moron.

Posted by: Naive | Oct 10 2025 20:58 utc | 194

Another excuse for war, especially for the one who won it.
Another Vietnam?

Posted by: dobby | Oct 10 2025 20:58 utc | 195

But this time the logistics are easier.

Posted by: dobby | Oct 10 2025 21:03 utc | 196

F’kn madness!

Posted by: dobby | Oct 10 2025 21:04 utc | 197

@161 gruff
 
It is true what you say about bargain basement louis p., but I am still unsure whether Trump is not the flipside, also a sheepdog to keep would-be red patriots blue-pilled in duopoly world. 
 
If that is the case, and I think it is, that means that in 2028, team blue will be back with a vengeance and will round-up the true deplorable refuseniks worse than their vaccine-mandate reprisal of 2021. 
 
But I am somewhat blackpilled and resigned, so take what I say with a grain of salt. I am hoping, like Lenin with his revolutionary-defeatism, that a global economic collapse will provide the conditions for a true anti-fed movement to occur in the U.S..
 
Otherwise, to the camps we shall go in 2028!  

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Oct 10 2025 21:26 utc | 198

I am a bit surprised that Maduro attempted to negotiate with Trump regarding oil and gold mining. I’m sure Maduro is aware that Trump is agreement-incapable and that it is always a bad strategy to negotiate with a bully.
 
Posted by: Clever Dog | Oct 10 2025 19:54 utc | 177

Fairly obvious plan … get the Gringos to build your mining industry and then change the rules and steal it off them. It’s a strategy that’s worked in the past and every year along comes a new bunch of bushy-tailed investors looking to make their fortunes.
 
Of you think Trump is untrustworthy (and yeah I agree he has done his share of switchbacks) well you sure as heck don’t want to put your money into Maduro’s hands.
 
Not saying that I want to see a war, because then everyone loses … but Maduro is not bright, not a good leader … those people really deserve better.

Posted by: Trl | Oct 10 2025 21:36 utc | 199

It’s a mystery to me why Yulya Navalnaya didn’t get the prize.
 
The Nobel Committee are definitely lacking ambition here…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Oct 10 2025 21:40 utc | 200