Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
September 3, 2025
Ukraine’s Best Security Guarantee Is Finlandization

Fruitless discussions about 'security guarantees' for Ukraine continue. It will still take time until it is acknowledged that there is no way to implement them. Meanwhile other ideas are cropping in.

Some dimwits in Europe still think that they will be able to prevent Russia from taking care of its security interests:

On Thursday, French President Emmanuel Macron and British Prime Minister Keir Starmer will co-host a meeting of the “coalition of the willing” comprised mostly of European allies. The discussions are expected to involve what potential security guarantees for Ukraine could look like and what type of peacekeeping force might be required.

The idea is to establish a setup that would prevent Russia from relaunching attacks on Ukrainian territory if a peace deal or cease-fire is established between the two countries.

President Donald Trump has signaled that the United States could play some kind of role in the effort, although he has ruled out putting American forces in Ukraine. [NATO Secretary-General Mark] Rutte on Wednesday also said the expectation was that the U.S would be involved in some form.

There will be no ceasefire in Ukraine. There will be a peace agreement in the form of a treaty. Ukraine and Russia sides will have to agree to its parameters. The Russian site will insist that Ukraine will be demilitarized and that no foreign forces will be stationed on its land.

European countries are unable to give any real 'security guarantees'. What they could provide is a minuscule force of a few thousand men stationed somewhere in Ukraine. Such a force would be eradicated within minutes should, after a peace agreement, the conflict in Ukraine reignite.

The Ukrainian regime has come to understand that. It has moved away from requesting 'security guarantees' in form of foreign soldiers. It instead wants a huge amount of foreign money to buy and make new weapons.

As the New York Times wrote yesterday:

Ukraine Pursues a Weapons Buildup More Potent Than Any Security Guarantee (archived) – New York Times
Kyiv sees a well-equipped army as a stronger deterrent to Moscow than any Western pledges to defend it. It is working to attract billions to buy more arms.

Kyiv wants not only to sustain its army through the current war but also to make it the backbone of any postwar settlement, with the goal of deterring Russia from invading again. As Ursula von der Leyen, the European Commission president, recently put it: “Ukraine must become a steel porcupine, undigestible for potential invaders.”

At the center of these efforts is a new NATO-backed procurement system that will channel European funds into buying U.S. weapons for Ukraine. President Volodymyr Zelensky hopes the system will enable $1 billion in purchases each month, with a particular focus on acquiring U.S.-made Patriot air-defense systems to expand Kyiv’s limited arsenal.

Ukraine is focused on developing its own security guarantees that its much larger neighbor cannot undermine. Kyiv’s domestic weapon production and its acquisition of Western arms are areas where Moscow has little leverage.

“This is not something the Russians can really discuss,” said Alyona Getmanchuk, Ukraine’s new ambassador to NATO. “That’s our advantage.”

Ukraine does not only want to receive lots of weapons, paid for by Europe, but also wants to build a weapon industry with financing also coming from foreign sources:

[Maksym Skrypchenko, the president of the Transatlantic Dialogue Center, a research group in Kyiv,] said Ukraine was working to channel Western money not only into buying foreign weapons but also into its own defense industry, which has grown rapidly during the war but still lacks the funding needed to produce at scale.

That could allow Ukraine to produce the very missiles Western partners have been reluctant to supply — or have delivered under strict usage limits — for fear of escalation. The United States, Britain and France have provided small batches of ballistic and cruise missiles, but their use is restricted so that they cannot be used to strike major Russian cities like Moscow. Germany has long refused to transfer its long-range Taurus cruise missiles.

Fire Point, the Ukrainian defense firm behind the Flamingo missile, said it would welcome Western funding to speed up production. The company says it currently makes one missile per day, but plans to increase output sevenfold by this fall. Ukraine has also developed a short-range ballistic missile named Sapsan that recently entered production.

That this is a serious attempt by Ukraine to move the 'security guarantee' discussion towards a record financial transaction to Kiev is underlined by an op-ed by its former Foreign Minister  Dmytro Kulebain the Washington Post:

Ukraine doesn’t need a security guarantee (archived) – Dmytro Kuleba / Washington Post
Western boots on the ground won’t secure peace. Arming Ukraine and politically integrating it will.

[S]tationing foreign troops far behind the lines as “reassurance forces” (the option most often floated as an alternative to more robust peacekeeping) would also have limited effect. The Ukrainian people would almost certainly welcome such deployments. But reassurance forces would neither hasten the war’s end nor prevent hostilities from reigniting after any ceasefire. Moscow, meanwhile, has already rejected the idea, claiming it would be a pretense for putting a NATO presence on Ukrainian soil.

Instead of debating such dead ends, Ukraine’s partners should immediately move to provide a robust assistance package, coupled with firm commitments to Ukraine’s political integration in the West. Weapons need to be provided at an even larger scale — to be mass-produced in Western countries as well as in Western-financed factories inside Ukraine. Ensuring uninterrupted supply on a strict timeline is vital. The buildup of a European military-industrial complex needs to take place alongside Ukraine’s admission to the European Union as a full member on an accelerated (though still merit-based) schedule.

The attempt to get 'security guarantees' in the form of money for weapons and weapon fabrications is just as doomed as the idea of putting western troops on the ground.

From the NYT piece quoted above:

Europe has already outpaced the United States in military aid, providing roughly $95 billion to Washington’s $75 billion, according to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy.

Ukraine has already received weapons at a value of $170 billion. How much did they deter the Russian from fighting?

The Europeans have difficulties to grow their economies while facing higher interest rates and aging societies. It is ludicrous to expect that they will indefinitely continue to finance weapons for Ukraine.

The idea of building western-financed weapon factories in Ukraine can already be seen as a failure.

The NYT piece asserts:

Kyiv’s domestic weapon production and its acquisition of Western arms are areas where Moscow has little leverage. 

“This is not something the Russians can really discuss,” said Alyona Getmanchuk, Ukraine’s new ambassador to NATO. “That’s our advantage.” 

The Russia Armed Forces disagree with that statement.

Germany allegedly provided the money and technology to develop the short-range ballistic missile named Sapsan which was to be produced in Ukraine.

By August 11 the Russia forces had ended that endeavor:

Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) claimed Thursday that it crippled Ukraine’s ability to launch strikes deep inside Russia after it carried out a special operation along with the Defense Ministry against Ukrainian missile production facilities.

The FSB said it had discovered the locations of buildings and air defense systems involved in the production and protection of Ukraine’s Sapsan ballistic missile system, also known by its export designation Hrim-2, in the Sumy and Dnipropetrovsk regions.

Russia’s Defense Ministry said […] the strikes were conducted throughout July, targeting Ukrainian design bureaus, rocket fuel production facilities and missile assembly plants in the Dnipropetrovsk and Sumy regions.

The Russian military also said it destroyed four launchers of the Western-supplied Patriot surface-to-air missile system and a U.S.-made target detection and guidance radar in the Dnipropetrovsk region alone.

The FSB claimed that Ukraine had developed the Sapsan/Hrim-2 with financial support from “specialists” of an unidentified Western European country.

Ukrainian media previously reported that the Sapsan missile completed combat testing in May after successfully striking a Russian military target at a range of almost 300 kilometers (186 miles).

Another deep strike hit the factory of a U.S. manufacturer of electronic circuit boards, Flex-tronic, in western Ukraine. Circuit boards are needed for Ukraine's mass drone production. Six hundred employees, working the night shift to allegedly 'build coffee makers', had fled into the companies bunkers when several cruise missiles arrived. It took several days to expunge the fire.

A Turkish company had built and equipped a factory to make Bayraktar drones in Ukraine. The factory was supposed to open at the end of August. Days before the official opening Russian missiles arrived:

The factory where Turkish Bayraktar drones are assembled continues to burn near Kiev. The day before, several Russian missiles hit the workshops. The building was seriously damaged. The production process was disrupted.

The video of the fire is published today, August 29, by Channel Five.

Together those were at least three large strikes in just one month against western-financed weapon production sites in Ukraine. Any future weapon factory build with western finance in Ukraine will receive a similar treatment.

Such facilities are just too big and obvious to operate in total secret. The Russian security service will find them and mark them for destruction as soon as the most expensive machinery for them has been installed and is ready to go.

'Security guarantees' in form of western troops on the ground are just not going to happen.

'Security guarantees' in form of weapon deliveries or weapon production within Ukraine are not sustainable.

The only real 'security guarantee' Ukraine can get is through a piece agreement with Russia. This will require Ukraine  to give up on land, to commit to neutrality and to behave well.

President Alexander Stubb of Finland argues in the Economist that Ukraine should follow his country's (previous) model:

What Finland could teach Ukraine about war and peace (archived) – Economist
President Alexander Stubb argues Ukraine can repeat Finland’s success

Finland’s experience has been cited from the start of the war in Ukraine—both as a model to avoid and one perhaps to follow. Mannerheim’s speech was circulated in President Volodymyr Zelensky’s office in the first months of the war, but was put to one side.

The peace that was imposed on Finland in 1944 was hardly just. But it could have been worse. Finland handed over 10% of its territory, including Karelia and half of Lake Ladoga. Its army was restricted, as was its ability to join NATO. It was forced to let Russia lease a naval base on Porkkala, a peninsula in the Gulf of Finland just 30km from the capital. And, because it had joined forces with Hitler, it was forced to pay reparations to the Soviet Union which had attacked it five years earlier.

To much of the world, this was a defeat. To Mr Stubb, whose father was born in the territory annexed by the Soviet Union, and whose summer house stands in Porkkala, back in Finnish hands since the 1950s, it looks different.

The simple secret of living peacefully next to a mighty neighbor, Finland had found, was to behave well:

Lacking any security guarantees from the West or anyone else, Finland exercised this independence not by turning anti-Russian—which would almost certainly have resulted in another invasion—but by building one of the most successful countries in Europe. “People didn’t wait for perfect conditions. They worked with what they had,” Risto Penttilä, a foreign-policy expert, explains.

In politics and in the media Finland carefully avoided anything that could anger Moscow. To most outsiders, what became known as “Finlandisation” was a servile form of appeasement. To Mr Stubb and most of his countrymen, “it was the definition of realpolitik at a time when we did not have a choice.” It allowed Finland to stick to its core values: universal education, social welfare and the rule of law.

The 'Finlandization' of Ukraine, if done seriously, would satisfy major Russian demands – neutrality, demilitarization and denazification. It is a realistic base for successful peace talks.

I am encourage that the Economist, as a major mainstream outlet, has picked up on this.

For the idea to ripen it will have to wait until the powers-that-be have recognized that all other variants of 'security guarantees', be they troops on the ground or weapon-fabrications, are rather pipe-dreams than serious plans.

Comments

@ james | Sep 3 2025 22:11 utc | 98
My intent wasn’t to engage with the copypaste pest, more to try and politely hint that his nonsense had been sussed out and he should STFU. Perhaps “Freedom of speech” is a privilege inferred by originality of thought?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 3 2025 22:22 utc | 101

I continue to see things which support my thesis that Russia (and China) are running out the clock.
Every day, America is in worse shape, economically, domestically, and diplomatically.
If I were Putin, I would tell them, let’s have talks. Just because I say that doesn’t mean I will be willing to compromise. It kicks the ball to the West, which now has to respond.

Nothing has changed since this time last year.
Russia’s demands remain, and Trump can give Putin nothing that he wants.
Until Russia gets pushed back, or the CIA can stage a color revolution, or Putin feels sympathy for NATO, no talks will change anything.
99% of the discourse about talks is a weak premise to make content (articles and podcasts).

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 3 2025 22:31 utc | 102

🇦🇹🇪🇺👉🇷🇺 The European Union needs to cooperate with the Russian Federation to build a common security architecture.
This opinion was expressed by the head of Austria’s largest opposition party — the Freedom Party of Austria — Herbert Kickl.

Posted by: Jo | Sep 3 2025 22:31 utc | 103

‼️🇷🇺💥🇺🇦🏴‍☠️ The Russian Armed Forces have attacked the railway infrastructure in the Kirovograd region.
The railway junction in Znamenka, Kirovograd region, which was used as a logistics hub in the eastern direction of the front of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, came under attack by our army.
About 16 Geraniums-2 struck this facility, resulting in the complete destruction of the locomotive depot, including repair facilities, electric traction, traction substation, dispatch center, warehouses and sorting.
🔥After the strike, THE MOVEMENT OF CARGO AND MILITARY TRAINS in the central part of the former Ukraine was COMPLETELY STOPPED.

Posted by: Jo | Sep 3 2025 22:43 utc | 104

‘Security guarantees’ in form of western troops on the ground are just not going to happen.
‘Security guarantees’ in form of weapon deliveries or weapon production within Ukraine are not sustainable.

Unfortunately b, there are copious examples of NATO doing really stupid things that had very little chance of success already. They are as likely to change their modus operandi as they are their military tactics.
There will be troops on the ground, and there will be weapon plants, and there will be economy destroying largesse, because the only other option (losing) is the worst possible outcome for them.

Posted by: No body | Sep 3 2025 22:45 utc | 105

I was really hoping b would open a thread on the Chinese 80th anniversary victory parade.
I’ve harvested so many petulant comments from the mockingbirds and their talking heads.
Timezone meant I could watch the live feed… live.
And .. to be on topic.. . North Korea has taken care of its “security guarantees”
It’s a member of the nuclear club, and is besties with both Russia and China.
Trump’s seethe was glorious. Especially as he had originally been invited, but declined.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 3 2025 22:47 utc | 106

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 3 2025 20:15 utc | 74
and referencing steel_porcupine #56
RE: Ukrainian diaspora in Chicago
<< The *before* residents of Chicago's diaspora, including the long-established Ukrainian Village neighborhood (search it online; it has been there a long time) and the *after* Euromaidan residents of Chicago's Ukrainian diaspora, differ in their perception of events since 2014, and this is key. Keep in mind that the dominant viewpoint in the diaspora's *new* land, namely Chicago's near-west neighborhoods, is one which jibes right now, in 2025, w/ Zelensky every night on his TikTok updates. It is also a viewpoint which jibes w/ the U.S. State Department: Russia's "unprovoked full-scale brutal war of aggression against an innocent fledgling democracy." This viewpoint has been trademarked for all time. No one in the U.S. is revising this view. Do you see that no one in Chicago's Ukrainian Village can do so either-? Those community centers who are raising funds for the Azov Brigade will not either. The receptive country which allowed them in---the U.S.---is fortifying their guys, their country, their brothers, sons, fathers, husbands, as a proxy against a nuclear superpower, the Russian Federation. No matter how much truth serum you give this "receptive country," it can never admit how tragically it pushed Ukrainian guys to meet the full-fisted weight of Russia. So from now on, and for at least a couple generations, people in the U.S. have to fig-leaf the lie of Project Ukraine.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 3 2025 22:50 utc | 107

Security guarantees for Ukraine
Initially, Ukraine was a republic of the Union formed during the Soviet era. The people there had the guarantee of the Warsaw Pact for the preservation of their sovereignty.
Then there was a development (which promises an interesting discussion elsewhere) that transformed this Soviet republic into a separate state, called Ukraine, but also including historical territories of Russia, Poland, Hungary, Romania.
In return, Ukraine declared neutrality and non-alignment, or as Orwell’s media now portray it, set itself this goal.
In 1996, security guarantees were even added.
“The Budapest Memorandum comprises three agreements that were signed in Budapest on 5 December 1994 as part of the CSCE conference held there. In the agreements, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States jointly provided security guarantees to Kazakhstan, Belarus and Ukraine in connection with their accession to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and in return for the elimination of all nuclear weapons on their territory. In particular, the agreements clarify and reaffirm pre-existing commitments.”
In 2003, Ukraine was already involved in the Iraq war.

A few colour revolutions later, the idea has gone, just like sovereignty.
.
Anyone who speaks of a Finlandisation of Ukraine means a freezing of the conflict. Whether this is in Russia’s interests is questionable.
If Russia had been able to occupy the whole of Germany after the last world war, things would look different today.
The GDR used to be part of Russia’s security, just like Ukraine. This military power was relinquished by Gorbachev.
The European nations have given up their power, if they ever had it.
I think capitalism rules in Russia too. However, it is sovereign. Just like China and the US, although the latter seems to be under Israeli influence if you look at the costs and benefits of this relationship.
Israel will want the Ukraine war to continue, or even escalate, so that the Gaza conflict does not come further into the spotlight.

Posted by: BlindSpot | Sep 3 2025 22:50 utc | 108

@ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 3 2025 22:22 utc | 100
thanks.. yes, i was aware of that… fact is he has been told the same thing over the past month to no avail.. it is like talking to the wall, lol.. cheers..

Posted by: james | Sep 3 2025 23:00 utc | 109

I thought I posted this, but it didn’t “stick”.
Asking Russia for negotiations is a double-edged sword.
If they agree to negotiate, then all of the pressure shifts to NATO/Trump.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 3 2025 23:01 utc | 110

In that part of Eastern Europe bounded by Poland, Hungary, Romania, belarus and Russia is a hellhole of blood fued that no security guarantee will pacify.
If Ukraine gets security guarantees from the west they’ll use the west as a cudgel against Russia. If they get security guarantees from Russia there’ll be an insurgemncy against Russians.
If you pacify the Ukrainians against Russia some future Polish nationalist will want revenge for Volhynia … it used to be pogroms against the jews but there all gone from the region. Some Belarussia might cut some Ukrainian off in traffic and it’ll start a massacre against them … or it could be Orthadox against catholics.
There is NEVER really peace there … if it appears there is it means someone is plotting violence against some other race, group or religion. it’s just a bad fucking neighborhood that should be avoided at all costs.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 3 2025 23:06 utc | 111

#26 @karlof1
“IMO, the SMO won’t be concluded until the overall root-cause peace settlement occurs and that could take years to finalize.”
Yes. If we’ve got that long.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 3 2025 23:11 utc | 112

Melaleuca@105….. isn’t it ironic, NK walks the walk….. where’s Iran? Still sniffing western panties…..hiding from atomic inspectors, stuck in some snap back hell…..meanwhile NK says fuck with us, we’ll fuck you up…..Iran could learn a thing or two from them…..seems like North Koreans don’t do Restraint and Appeasement…
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 3 2025 23:15 utc | 113

Thanks b.
What’s missing is the fact that “Ukraine” has no agency. The politicians are not patriots. They are selected liars and thieves.
The so called coalition of willing are not trying to save Ukraine. They are there for access to the Black Sea and resources. That all ends if Ukraine falls.

Posted by: Suresh | Sep 3 2025 23:17 utc | 114

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 3 2025 20:15 utc | 74
and referencing steel_porcupine #56
RE: Ukrainian diaspora in Chicago
<< In my neighborhood there's that Vietnamese restaurant, which does the fantastic pork on chopped sugarcane w/ shredded pork and a grilled pork chop, that displays a map of Vietnam which shows Saigon as the capitol instead of Ho Chi Minh City. The proprietors of the restaurant, who incidentally were trained computer scientists, not food service professionals, came to the U.S. after the fall of Saigon in 1975, rejecting unification and nestling in w/ their paymaster, the U.S., in Vietnam's internal dispute. The portion of the Ukrainian diaspora which can never give up the Project Ukraine-caliber lies about Ukraine will find a soft landing spot in Chicago and Brooklyn and other U.S. cities, because their country's elites permitted their country's citizens, and cities, and its fighting force to be used as a proxy against a full-fisted Russian Federation military. Gotta admit that was an extreme sacrifice/gamble. The U.S. cannot turn the tide in the proxy war it backed, but it can allow the people it used so piteously to find respite on U.S. shores (should they desire such a thing after this debacle.)

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 3 2025 23:23 utc | 115

This opinion was expressed by the head of Austria’s largest opposition party — the Freedom Party of Austria — Herbert Kickl.
Posted by: Jo | Sep 3 2025 22:31 utc | 102
_______
Also — nota bene — Austria’s largest party. But as in other European countries (and Thailand), the party winning a plurality of seats was conspired against by the Good Ol’ Boy parties to keep it from assuming leadership or even participation in a coalition.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 3 2025 23:24 utc | 116

The best way for the Europeons to guarantee the Ukraine’s security is to guarantee Russia’s security. ***
Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 3 2025 17:47 utc | 43
One of the strange moments in Alaska was during the post meeting press conference. Putin said from the lecturn the words “the security of the Ukraine should be assured as well”. Trump looks to his right and visibly rocked side to side.
I the comments as a whole were clear – Putin meant “security should be assured” for “Russia First” then Ukraine follows, knowing these words “Security assured for Ukraine” would get up and run around like the alien on the Nostromo.

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 3 2025 23:33 utc | 117

Jo | Sep 3 2025 22:02 utc | 95
…military efforts against Russia are failing …… focus on undermining its economy, including by sanctioning its trade partners… Merz
We’ve almost come full circle.
SanctionsFromHell™️ were supposed to destroy Russia within 6 weeks back at the start of the sloSMO.
Biden: “the ruble will be rubble”
SanctionsFromHell™️instead bolstered the Russian economy, and the Indian arbitrage on oil.
With U$NATO war toys scrap metal across the LOC and western Ukraine warehouses, now it’s time for more SanctionsFromHell™️.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 3 2025 23:38 utc | 118

In that part of Eastern Europe bounded by Poland, Hungary, Romania, belarus and Russia is a hellhole of blood fued that no security guarantee will pacify. ***
Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 3 2025 23:06 utc | 110
Only time and no US funding for covert destabilization will change that. Give them their own Banderastan with Rusyn Carpathia and Bukovina sliced off, post WWII Austria type neutrality and a clear steppe corridor from Russia to Hungary and Slovakia with “security guarantees” and call it the “Great Deal Peace.”

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 3 2025 23:48 utc | 119

Totally agree.
But unlike Finland, Ukraine does not have visionary leaders. Ukrainian population should be reduced to the size of Finland first. Then pragmatic approaches will emerge.

Posted by: Jason | Sep 3 2025 23:54 utc | 120

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 3 2025 22:47 utc | 105
Most won’t see that both Kim and Pootin were on both sides of Xi on the review stand.
The Axis of Evil.

Posted by: Surferket | Sep 4 2025 0:34 utc | 121

Frithguild @ 32, Steel Porcupine @ 40, Ed Bernays @ 46:
Given Ursula von der Leyen’s propensity to twist terms and concepts into the very opposite of what they mean or represent, along with stealing other people’s ideas and never giving credit where credit is due, I’d say she or one of her staff really did nick Steel Porcupine’s sobriquet for their own sordid purposes.
The inconvenient truth about Ursula von der Leyen

… In 2015, well before the procurement scandal erupted, von der Leyen faced plagiarism accusations in connection with the thesis she wrote when she studied medicine.
Several years earlier, similar accusations had forced one of her predecessors as defense minister, Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, to resign. In 2013, Annette Schavan, another Merkel confidante who served as education minister, was also forced to step down after evidence emerged that she had plagiarized passages in her thesis.
Von der Leyen was luckier. Though a university commission confirmed that von der Leyen had failed to properly cite the sources for much of the material in her dissertation, it determined that the omissions weren’t intentional and didn’t undermine her central thesis …

I’m sure when the time comes for things to be set right, and Steel Porcupine can finally claim first dibs, there’ll be a long, looong line of people queueing up to demand their fair share of acknowledgement from Uschi.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 4 2025 0:44 utc | 122

Sean the leprechaun @ 112:
Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian did actually attend the SCO meeting in Tianjin and then he went on to Beijing where among other things he spent several hours talking with the Russian and Chinese Presidents in separate sessions.
He and his daughter together participated in the big photo shoot and attended the military parade marking the 80th anniversary of the defeat of Japanese forces in China.
President Pezeshkian wraps up China visit
Iran’s foreign minister, defence minister and economic minister also went to China with the Pezeshkians.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 4 2025 0:57 utc | 123

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 4 2025 0:44 utc | 121
RE: Lady vdL, the plagiarist
<< What's obvious from what you report is that urSSula might have *tried* to be the president of Harvard University but, like Claudine Gay, would have been found out soon enough

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 4 2025 0:58 utc | 124

Melaleuca @ 105:
Now this is petulance.
Chinese embassy concert commemorating Japan’s WWII defeat blocked from Parliament House

Australian officials scuppered a Chinese embassy plan to host a concert in the heart of Parliament House to commemorate the 80th anniversary of Japan’s defeat in World War II, sparking a diplomatic blame game in Canberra …

Bet Japan didn’t even whinge all that much about the concert being held in Parliament House originally.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 4 2025 1:01 utc | 125

Surferket | Sep 4 2025 0:34 utc | 120
What the mockingbirds will NEVER report is that South Korea
attended.
> Speaker of the National Assembly of South Korea, Kim Jin-pyo
The whole event was … finding a superlative… beyond absolute spectacle.
The precision…. Not just the choreography of the choirs and military, but the whole event. A master class in massive population stirring theatre.
Of course Trump was seething, alone in his golden palace. The kool kids were having a party… and he WAS invited, but thought it was beneath him to attend.
If he’d accepted the invitation he had a shot at hijacking the spotlight and putting the focus back on the U$ defeat of Japan. But instead he was relegated to issuing mean tweets. And looking like a petulant non-entity.
TrumpTeamTrix angst won’t end until after the Eastern Economy Forum in Vladivostok.
Not sure who is attending, but deals will be done around energy … oil, gas, nuclear.
The Power of Siberia 2 pipeline is going ahead, with Mongolia to benefit from transit fees.
I’m sure our Karl will be on top of it..

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 4 2025 1:20 utc | 126

https://mf.b37mrtl.ru/files/2025.09/original/68b742a485f5403dcd3c69c7.jpeg <=map showing the agreed to pipeline. China, Mongolia, and Russia signed a 50 billion cubic meter (bcm) natural gas deal to replace the destroyed North Stream II pipeline? This pipeline goes from the Yamal gas field (originally the NS II source of gas) through Mongolia directly into the Northern Industrial district of China. This pipeline adds to the gas being delivered to China from Yakbia, Russia into China. and is among the many reasons sanctions will not only not bother China, Russia, Iran.. or NK but why sanction backfires are destructive to the NATO nations. The sooner NATO becomes a law abiding citizen of the global community the less damage to itself it is likely to incur.. Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 3 2025 19:09 utc | 58 "Global Governance Initiative=UN Charter 2.0",O. <= likely it would be best to dissolve the UN and reform it without any veto as UN2.. what the general assembly decides becomes the international law, and that charter would not contain a veto but it would limit the armed forces, weapon stockpiles, annual weapon productions, and military training allowed to each member state to specified level. The majority of the military in the world in times of emergencies should be under UN2 control..the only emergency would be when a human right is being infringed on . All other violations would be handled by sanction, money penalties, judicial decisions or other means. Unless someone enforces Human rights against the leaders of the nation states there will be no human rights. I believe the world would see global peace, if UN2 were powerful enough and diligent enough to enforce human rights against all violators. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Sep 3 2025 20:44 utc | 79 Nothing can "guarantee" Ukraine's security, or anyone else's for that matter. There is no one permanent solution that can be found. <=I strongly disagree.. guarantee everybody's security with strong, unrelenting, quick enforcement of the un inalienable human rights against all persons, public or private, leaders of nation states, leaders of industry, leaders of military, leaders of anything and single person violators.. That single thing would eliminate war and probably reduce conflict to negotiations.. IMO..

Posted by: snake | Sep 4 2025 1:21 utc | 127

“A bad peace is better than a good war
Observed a very wise man.”
Posted by: Exile | Sep 3 2025 15:36 utc | 9
Sorry, but just plain wrong, not to mention trite and PC. A war fought upon principles such as humanitarianism against fascists and hegemons must be waged for the greater good. Yes sad, but true. Of course, many peacenik idealists complain about the “innocent” combatants and civilians. But what folks don’t see is national karma — ie, how a nation’s collective passive stupidity and historical resentments allow its leaders to foment active frictions, ie wars. Massive populous anti-war movements CAN have results against warmongering governments, as can the ballot box. Citizens have no-one to blame but themselves if they find their country in a war. Germans in 1939. Japanese in 1941, were unconsciously complicit in their wars due to their underlying fascist tendencies … same as Ukraine 2022-2025. Thus they got their arses fairly whipped in a war against anti-fascists, culminating with decades of slavery to their victors. Their national karma. Funny that the post-war (German) babies repented the evil of their parents, yet 70 years later it’s all rising again.
Nah, there certainly are good and necessary wars. “Bad peaces” can’t last. They just flare up time and again.
RF has had enough of post-WWII and post-USSR bad peaces. Their resolve is that this SMO/war should fix the root causes once and for all.

Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | Sep 4 2025 1:22 utc | 128

Lukashenko was there, in the front row, walking the red carpet alongside Kim, but he was struggling.
When they hit the stairs, he’d vanished. Probably took an elevator.
I didn’t catch sight of him after that.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 4 2025 1:23 utc | 129

Refinnejenna | Sep 4 2025 1:01 utc | 124
Dan Andrews made it to the rear of the big photo shoot.
Sky News apoplectic about his attendance.
Everyone is sour they weren’t there. Australian media love to send big teams for Coronations and Royal Weddings …they know they missed out.
Australia could have been there and celebrated.
Remind people of what happened with our troops in Singapore, Malaysia Thailand and New Guinea ..
But we “Quad” now, so we don’t want the under-40s to realise Japan was once the enemy.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 4 2025 1:29 utc | 130

Poetic justice. Europe, the root of colonialism, spending whealth looted to self destroy.

Posted by: bbeer | Sep 4 2025 1:31 utc | 131

bbeer 130: wealth

Posted by: bbeer | Sep 4 2025 1:33 utc | 132

Riffing off – James 1’s comment
What kind of security arrangements does canada have with the usa?? If we weren’t friends with the usa, all the security arrangements would be meaningless… the best security arrangement for ukraine at this point would be to be on friendly terms with Russia…
The best way to create “friendship” is to make sure the arrangement is symbiotically beneficial. The uppermost-class in the US, as a whole, would make a $#!tload more money by working with Russia than it does warring against Russia.
A small minority of the upper-most-class hijacked US foreign policy back in the late 1970’s and has been siphoning trillions of the US treasury receipts for a tiny cabal’s benefit.

Posted by: S Brennan | Sep 4 2025 1:51 utc | 133

Europe, the root of colonialism” – bbeer 130
This is not historically correct.

Posted by: S Brennan | Sep 4 2025 1:53 utc | 134

The so called coalition of willing are not trying to save Ukraine. They are there for access to the Black Sea and resources. That all ends if Ukraine falls.
Posted by: Suresh | Sep 3 2025 23:17 utc | 113
Russia wouldn’t mind them taking Ukraine resources. Is Black Sea access that important considering all neighbouring NATO states have access.
Think they dream of a collapse of Russia as happened to USSR.

Posted by: Michael J | Sep 4 2025 1:54 utc | 135

What the mockingbirds across The Garden don’t understand, is that the Number 1 and most important audience for the 80th anniversary is the Chinese themselves.
The mockingbirds think everything is staged purposeful and only with the intent of “sending a message” to Trump-US and NATO.
But that’s only a small part of it.
The event is first and foremost intended and staged for the Chinese themselves.
Only they themselves know what it has taken to move from the days when they were targeted by the Japanese, to being where they are today.
Probably, arguably, the strongest country economically, socially, militarily.
TrumpTeamTrix FAFO with tariffs, and quickly capitulated.
They think they might like to FAFO militarily around Taiwan, but are hesitant.
Mockingbirds chirp that social cohesion is maintained in China only through dictatorship.
But for every repression they cite re China, I can think of examples here in Oz, and in other countries within The Garden.
The national pride on display at the 80th means there’s less need for repression, as people want to be part of and contribute to a thriving growing prospering country.
I know… I’m old enough to remember a time when Australians had pride in their country which was growing and prosperous.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 4 2025 2:09 utc | 136

https://avia-pro.net/news/hegset-pentagon-gotov-zadeystvovat-vse-imeyushchiesya-u-amerikanskih-voennyh-resursy-dlya-smeny
US defence secretary’s threat of regime change in Venezuela a way to pressure Russia or an answer to SCO?

Posted by: Michael J | Sep 4 2025 2:30 utc | 137

President Alexander Stubb does not know his own country’s history.
Finland lost a big piece of territory in the Soviet attack on Finland in 1939-40 (The Winter War). The Continuation War where Finland tried to regain the lost territory only cost a small pice of land in the Far North.
Just look at these maps.
https://finland.fi/life-society/tracing-finlands-eastern-border/

Posted by: Poul | Sep 4 2025 2:33 utc | 138

Think they dream of a collapse of Russia as happened to USSR.
Posted by: Michael J | Sep 4 2025 1:54 utc | 134
USSR was not collapsed. It was dissolved by member states.
Cannot happen that way in Russia.

Posted by: hopehely | Sep 4 2025 2:37 utc | 139

Michael J | Sep 4 2025 2:30 utc | 136
TrumpTeamTrix Venezuela adventure:
“Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business.”
Michael Ledeen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ledeen

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 4 2025 2:46 utc | 140

“… We should continue to uphold the principles of non-alliance, non-confrontation and not targeting any third party…” [from President Xi’s speech at SCO]
karlof1 at | Sep 3 2025 19:09 utc | 58
I am struck that the task of the SCO is in a way a larger and more permanent version of Russia’s SMO, leaving out the ‘M’ component, as far as goals are concerned. In particular, the first principle named, non-alliance, is a completely new ball game, used as we have been to think of alliances in a positive way, a security guarantee if you like. Instead, Xi begins his address naming the abstraction, fascism, and then describing positive behaviors which ought to be adhered to.
The word ‘governance’ is a carefully chosen alternative to ‘government’ that is well chosen, at least as it sounds in its English translation. To me it is less rigid, more greek as opposed to latin. It dances.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 4 2025 3:13 utc | 141

The Power of Siberia 2 pipeline is going ahead, with Mongolia to benefit from transit fees.
I’m sure our Karl will be on top of it..
Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 4 2025 1:20 utc | 125
===============
I tried to purchase some shares in this project as soon as it was announced. I guess these are also Gazprom shares.
But Americans are blocked from purchasing/owning Gazprom or probably any Russian shares.
In fact, the ten Gazprom shares that I had purchased earlier were “neutralized.”
Meanwhile my Moscow pen pal says that Gazprom is paying excellent dividends!!

Posted by: Jane | Sep 4 2025 3:24 utc | 142

@ Poul | Sep 4 2025 2:33 utc | 137
thanks for the finnish history lesson on border changes..

Posted by: james | Sep 4 2025 3:38 utc | 143

@ S Brennan | Sep 4 2025 1:51 utc | 132
maybe the super rich upper class in the usa are having second thoughts?? or does it continue to work for some and they are happy with the arrangement?? i can’t tell.. maybe that was what the vote for or against trump making peace with russia was about?

Posted by: james | Sep 4 2025 3:40 utc | 144

The Power of Siberia 2 pipeline is going ahead, with Mongolia to benefit from transit fees.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 4 2025 1:20 utc | 125
Besides that,it has the potential to revolutionise energy needs of south and south east Asia. Distribution via China. Think it is possible to connect Iranian gas to it. And the beauty, it is totally outside western influence.
As to fears of China getting too much leverage, feel the cards held by producing nations.

Posted by: Michael J | Sep 4 2025 3:47 utc | 145

Posted by: bbeer | Sep 4 2025 1:31 utc | 130
#####
Well said, what goes around comes around.
All of those countries that they colonized and waged genocide on are reverse-colonizing Europe.
America is due for a Reconquista, too, at some point.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2025 3:47 utc | 146

137 @ Poul:
“President Alexandr Stubb does not know his own country’s history.”
Here’s some:
Finnish Face of Fascism
https://rumble.com/V2mqnmk-finnish-face-of-fascism-rt-doc.-movie.html

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 4 2025 3:50 utc | 147

Try this instead:
Finnish Face of Fascism
https://rumble.com/v2fyae-finnish-face-of-fascism.html

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 4 2025 3:56 utc | 148

3rd time lucky?
https://rumble.com/v2fyaea-finnish-face-of-fascism.html
Hope so. Good doc.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 4 2025 4:00 utc | 149

Proper name: The Coalition of the Whining.
Profession: Whining and whining

Posted by: Coalition of Whining | Sep 4 2025 4:05 utc | 150

…maybe the [uber] rich class in the USA [have] second thoughts…maybe that was what the vote for or against Trump making peace with Russia was about?” – James 143
Indeed or…maybe it’s as the DLC/DNC intones…Trump is the rise of yet another in the assembly line of “Hitler”? So many Hitlers, so little time…

Posted by: S Brennan | Sep 4 2025 4:07 utc | 151

Unfortunately for Russia and perhaps China, these wars will go on for generations, until they get a leader with the same mindset as Dmitri Trenin and many patriotic Russians… a transcript from his last piece.
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The Israel-Iran war offers important lessons. Our adversaries coordinate tightly. We must do the same. Not by copying NATO, but by forging our own model of strategic cooperation.
We should also pursue tactical engagement with the Trump administration. If it allows us to weaken the US war effort in Europe, we should exploit it. But we must not confuse tactics with strategy. American foreign policy remains fundamentally adversarial.
Fellow European powers like Britain, France, and Germany must be made to understand they are vulnerable. Their capitals are not immune. The same message should reach Finland, Poland, and the Baltics. Provocations must be met swiftly and decisively.
If escalation is inevitable, we must consider pre-emptive action – firstly with conventional arms. And if necessary, we must be ready to use ‘special means’, including nuclear weapons, with full awareness of the consequences. Deterrence must be both passive and active.
Our mistake in Ukraine was waiting too long. Delay created the illusion of weakness. That must not be repeated. Victory means breaking the enemy’s plans, not occupying territory.
Finally, we must penetrate the West’s information shield. The battlefield now includes narratives, alliances, and public opinion. Russia must once again learn to engage in others’ domestic politics, not as an aggressor, but as a defender of truth.
The time for illusions is over. We are in a world war. The only path forward is through bold, strategic action.

Posted by: Robby | Sep 4 2025 4:29 utc | 152

the same mindset as Dmitri Trenin and many patriotic Russians
Posted by: Robby | Sep 4 2025 4:29 utc | 151
I read that. 100% Dmitri Trenin et al is a winner.
Russia and China have a long way to go yet.

Posted by: Principle | Sep 4 2025 4:34 utc | 153

Unfortunately for Russia and perhaps China, these wars will go on for generations, until they get a leader with the same mindset as Dmitri Trenin and many patriotic Russians… a transcript from his last piece.
Posted by: Robby | Sep 4 2025 4:29 utc | 151
Unknown factor is the dollar. Can’t see it holding good beyond the decade. SCO + BRICS will make a go for it. Countries like Turkey will side with the winner. With US taken out of the equation can EU manage on their own?

Posted by: Michael J | Sep 4 2025 5:06 utc | 154

this poster doesn’t engage.. just copies and pastes up the yinyang..
Posted by: james | Sep 3 2025 22:11 utc | 98
How do you engage with comments such as; your comment is imbecilic.
Truth is the comment makes an important point that “the media” does all it can to obfuscate.

Posted by: John | Sep 4 2025 5:06 utc | 155

Great article by karlof1
80 Years Later, The War Against Exceptionalist Extremism Continues
Explains how all of the fronts are related to the one major issue.
The Empire is lashing out in every direction that it can.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2025 5:17 utc | 156

From Reuters

Putin tells Ukraine: End war via talks or I will end it by force
Russian President Vladimir Putin told Kyiv on Wednesday there was a chance to end the war in Ukraine via negotiations “if common sense prevails”, an option he said he preferred, but that he was ready to end it by force if that was the only way.


Maybe the new buzz concept will be Conditional Surrender.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 4 2025 5:43 utc | 157

Almost funny how everyone talks about guarantees for Ukraine.
Russia needs security guarantees for peace and against drone attacks. The best ones they found are in their weapons and soldiers. NATO, looking at Russia, is thinking exactly the same, so an arms race it is.
Luckily Russias 150 million don’t need to conquer Western Europe with it’s 500 million so mutual deterrence will work in a Clausewitzian sense that the effort becomes too high compared to the benefits. It will be an uneasy peace though but no drones over Moscow or Paris.
Ukraine is only a factor in that NATO doesn’t want to see it occupied in full or even a domino effect of Warsaw Pact countries realigning with BRICS. The new bloc border could well include Slovakia and Hungary as it will surely include Moldavia and Ukraine. EU better step carefully here, the whole south could fall to BRICS at some point.
Looking at Finland, joining NATO is one thing, going from neutral to armed border another. In terms of mutual deterrence it is still very much in Russias favor. Finland was “undersecured” but goes from a stable configuration to another stable one, nothing to do about it.
What Russia really needs is to remove the Transatlanticists and the “my tribe win” American thinking.
This may happen through the school of hard knocks or “reductio ad absurdum”, Trumps “America alone”, US collapse or USA plundering Europe until the EU fails.
The tipping point was Xi, Putin, Modi and Kim on the victory parade. It will take a while for the West to digest that they are beaten economically, diplomatically and militarily already. EU and Germany will learn this when Yamal gas is going to China and never coming back. France will learn this when they are priced out of Russian Uranium.
There is a decolonization angle to all this as well. All those mentioned above share emotions driven by colonial experience. They will do anything but to accept any new arrogant, domineering, paternalistic solutions – and they absolutely don’t have to. The US pressure cooker has it’s head of steam safely released, now things can advance as planned, next stop Iran, all it takes are a few S-400 flights to change the game.

Posted by: SOS | Sep 4 2025 6:34 utc | 158

Russian flag in the center of Kupyansk:
https://southfront.press/truth-on-the-ground-russian-flags-waving-over-kupyansk-center/

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 4 2025 6:40 utc | 159

In fact, the ten Gazprom shares that I had purchased earlier were “neutralized.”
Meanwhile my Moscow pen pal says that Gazprom is paying excellent dividends!!
Posted by: Jane

Its likely when Peace finally returns, you’ll get all the accumulated dividends in a nice fat check.

Posted by: Exile | Sep 4 2025 6:40 utc | 160

Offtopic but very important contribution from Jeffrey Sachs and Sybil Fares: essentially, the world can stop the Jewish genocide in Gaza using existing multilateral mechanisms in the UN:
https://www.unz.com/article/how-to-stop-israel-from-starving-gaza/
This is urgent, the most urgent thing to do by all decent people in the world.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 4 2025 6:53 utc | 161

The tictok generation is absolutely convinced the precision of the Chinese 80th parade is AI.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 4 2025 7:00 utc | 162

This is urgent, the most urgent thing to do by all decent people in the world.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 4 2025 6:53 utc | 160
Do you want me to wave my finger angrily at Netanyahu? There is nothing I can do about this. I am powerless like you are.
Maybe people said the came kind of crap over China in the 1930s too demanding Japan goes home? Didn’t stop Japan either.

Posted by: Principle | Sep 4 2025 7:37 utc | 163

Posted by: Principle | Sep 4 2025 7:37 utc | 163
There is nothing I can do about this. I am powerless like you are.

Speak for yourself. I am addressing people that can do something. Of course you are nobody so just ignore.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 4 2025 8:16 utc | 164

@ Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 3 2025 19:29 utc | 64
“Buddy, can you paradigm? “
👏 fabulous – I’m gonna use that!
Have a few beers!

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 4 2025 8:41 utc | 165

@Posted by: Crumchy | Sep 3 2025 19:42 utc | 68
“That is why EU elites are freaking out. Their decades long imperial project is toast. They are acting out their class interests, even though they are losing. “
Excellent synthesis of history.
Much as I have come to realise it against the mainstream brain washing.
It’s good to see MoA’ers are seeing the bigger picture.
It’s not just full of socks stinking up the bar.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 4 2025 8:54 utc | 166

Posted by: Principle | Sep 4 2025 7:37 utc | 163
Since you are so powerless and insignificant as a person, as you confess, you can help by disrupting events where Israelis take part, as the Basques did in Spain, actually canceling stage 11 of the Vuelta a Espana yesterday when it was ending. The race director announced the decision to end the stage early with no winners due to incidents at the finish:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/pro-palestinian-anti-israel-protest-forces-spains-vuelta-cycling-stage-to-be-shortened-no-winner/
Once again, I offer my excuses for offtopic material but I think Dr. Sachs’s efforts and ideas should get immediate attention.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 4 2025 8:55 utc | 167

@ Posted by: Passerby | Sep 3 2025 20:05 utc | 73
What is the plan?
It was always to own and make profits from Russian resources.
Especially by monopoly control of energy supply to Europeans.
Now banning and physically disrupting us Europeans from a free market and ability to purchase our hydrocarbons and in future even electricity directly through land based EurAsian supply chains. Hah! The myth of ‘freedom of choice’.
We are urged – forced – to purchase it from the US!
In quantities the US obviously cannot supply.
At prices multiple of what it costs in the US.
That plan was being pushed by Candy Rice during BushJnrs opening the century with war with his Daddy’s Deadly crew running the show.
‘THEY’ can’t own – conquer – the Russian resources, having failed by hook and crook again.
So they have found a work around as always.
Let India’s owned Oligarchy buy it from the RF at the cheapest price (that’s the clever whizz behind the supposed cap in how much RF can sell their hydrocarbons for!)
Then channel it through to the corporations and hedge funders to supply us Europeans forced to believe we are buying US extracted Gas and Oil! At quadruple the price that it was.
By hook or crook they find ways to make sure it’s only them who can profit even if they can’t capture the RF resources.
That’s why I don’t trust Modi and Co and their supposed sly happy elephant bear dragon circus act. That oligarchy is part of the Global Robber Barons shapeshifter dynasties.
I expect neither do the RF and China that’s why they go out of their way to play the super huggy friends sharing jokes and being besties infront of the cameras!
Keep your enemies closer as they say.
No wonder Modi always looks a bit smug at these public displays with his careful contrived appearance and dress. He must think he is getting away with fooling these two.
Hey one of the Indian dynasties scions husband ended up as a PM of the U.K. as they continued filling their boots with Covid and prepping the war in Ukraine and trying to pull the Indian diaspora and the billion at ‘home’ to donate millions of boots as fodder for their future invasions.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 4 2025 9:18 utc | 168

Medvedev, Maria and Dugin have already piled into the chihuahuas barking from the borderlands of the RF.
The change that must happen is to end the multi centuries ziofacsit Anglo European imperialist colonisation invasions to take EurAsia and its resources by and for the benefit of the ‘Implacable’ old Bastard dynasties.
The majority of Humanity and our tens of thousands of years civilisational progress cannot go further without that paradigm shift.
Leaving those dynasties intact to farcically carry on dooming our future generations is an absolute No, Nyet, Bu…
That’s the Red Line.
They will run and hide behind their mask and bloody sheepskin disguise and claim AS!
The Khazar Old Bastards have deformed human civilsation for a thousand years through their control of European wars and imperialism inflicted across the world.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 4 2025 9:44 utc | 169

I’m utterly surprised that anyone trusts them at all.
“French President Emmanuel Macron’s approval rating has fallen to its lowest since he took office in 2017, with 80% of people saying they do not trust him, a new survey has shown.
Macron was backed by just 15% of respondents, according to the new poll conducted for Le Figaro Magazine and published on Wednesday. About eight in ten expressed a negative view of his leadership, while the rest gave no clear answer – leaving him with a weaker rating than during the Yellow Vest protests, a mass anti-government movement that erupted in 2018 over fuel taxes and economic inequality.
Prime Minister Francois Bayrou fared no better in the survey, with trust in him also hitting record lows. Just 14% said they trust him, while 82% expressed the opposite – his weakest score since taking office as prime minister. Bayrou, who was appointed after Michel Barnier’s government collapsed last year, is now pushing a controversial austerity plan as France struggles with a spiraling budget deficit that hit 5.8% of GDP in 2024 – almost double the EU 3% ceiling.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 4 2025 9:47 utc | 170

Yes Biden did make the ties between Russia and China stronger – but Trump all but cemented them with his tariffs, and he also drove Modi into the arms of Russia and China.
“Washington is seeking to restore deterrence against both Russia and China, US Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth has said.
Speaking to Fox News, Hegseth argued that the military parade in Beijing on Wednesday, attended by Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin, highlighted the closer ties between the two neighbors.
“Unfortunately, the weakness of the previous administration has driven Russia and China closer together. That was a terrible development of a lack of American leadership and a lack of American strength,” Hegseth said.
“But that’s why President Trump has charged us at the Defense Department to be prepared, rebuild our military in historic ways, restore the warrior ethos, and reestablish deterrence,” he added.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 4 2025 9:49 utc | 171

DunGroanin | Sep 4 2025 9:18 utc | 168
More than a decade ago, maybe around 2004-5-6 (which I spent down the 9/11 rabbit hole), I read Europe, by 2030, would be supplied with gas from the newly discovered (or so it was claimed to be newly discovered) East Mediterranean gas field, controlled by Israel.
At the time this “conspiracy” theory was scoffed and ridiculed because the undeveloped East Med field would *never* be economic, and *never* be able to compete with cheap Russian gas, for which there was already longstanding infrastructure.
We are much closer to 2030 now than 2004-5-6, and lookie lookie.
Cheap Russian gas is no longer cheap, and no longer flowing to Europe.
The East Med field is fully under the control of Israel.
Cypress is in the cross hairs.
The Palestinians are being exterminated out of the way, to only feeble dissembling from anyone but the Yemenis,
The once ridiculous/ preposterous plans to replace Russian gas to Europe now seem very achievable.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 4 2025 9:52 utc | 172

91 – Interesting that they fear Junge Welt which has a tiny circulation (I doubt whether it sells more than 5,000 paper copies daily and though it has an online presence, readers have to pay to get full access to it, at least the last time I checked). And it is in German to boot. I buy and read it in when in Germany but the paper version is hard to obtain outside of newspaper shops in places like central train stations in major cities.

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 4 2025 9:53 utc | 173

India jumping into the Semi-Conductor market, opens up new possibilities in who’ll supply whom.
“India will drive major change by shaping the future of the microchip industry, Prime Minister Narendra Modi said on Tuesday. New Delhi will begin commercial semiconductor production by the end of 2025, marking a significant milestone in the country’s push toward technological self-reliance, he added.
Speaking at the opening of the Semicon India 2025 conference, Modi said: “The day is not far away when India’s smallest chip will drive the world’s biggest change.” He added: “Our last century was shaped by oil… But the power of the 21st century is limited to a small chip. This chip has the power to accelerate the development of the world.”
New Delhi has already greenlighted ten semiconductor plants, and four additional units are expected to start production within the next 12 months. Modi also announced a Critical Minerals Mission, focusing on securing rare earth elements and other essential minerals vital for semiconductor manufacturing.
During the ceremony, IT Minister Ashwini Vaishnaw presented Modi with India’s first indigenously developed Vikram-32-bit chip, created by the national space agency’s (ISRO) Semiconductor Laboratory for various space applications. The microprocessor was formally inducted into ISRO’s program in March, along with another chip called Kalpana 3201.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 4 2025 9:54 utc | 174

@ Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 3 2025 21:19 utc | 83
Et al.
Canadans like Americans and other colonial-ans, from Europe and imperial colonies, have ALWAYS been the colonising slaves and property of the Old Bastards.
There is no difference in the bloodlust of the 5 eyes and it’s plus 1.
It is their proxy colonies the fake nations ukropia and the illegal apartheid entity WasNeverReal, rampaging in West EurAsia.
Both trained mad attack dogs that can’t be cured. They can only be put down to ensure safety of the peoples they have been raised and trained to destroy.
Carney has been one of the Shapeshifters leading consigliere type hoodlums for the ziofacist shapeshifter dynasties from his earliest days. Married into the Mob as it were.
Time to dish the dirt on this another proxy petty Caesar mercenary. He was installed not ‘elected’. Like HerrKyirStramztrooper was in the U.K., Merz in Germany, Melonni in Italy, Macaroon in France … every single euro chihuahua and glam puss … they are ziofascist warmongering puppets.
Starmzy even admitted that he was exactly that.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 4 2025 10:03 utc | 175

International lunatic comedy day…I look forward to the usual pathetic end press conference ..usually intentions but no action.And probably no sense of what their military can do and too nervous to expose their fallibilities.I look forward to mme Zakharova and Medvedev’s assessment Caroline Levitt usual Thursday presentation.Surrender would be easier.
NATO chief Mark Rutte has demanded an answer today from the ‘coalition of the willing’ on what security guarantees will be provided for Ukraine if a ceasefire is reached with Russia.
It comes as leaders from Europe, Turkey, Australia and Canada arrive in Paris to hold talks with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on what concrete measures they are prepared to offer Kyiv.
But the 30 countries are still divided on what they are willing to contribute, including troops on the ground, and whether such guarantees would be based on mutual defence agreements that would commit Europe to fighting with Ukraine should future conflict arise.

Posted by: Jo | Sep 4 2025 10:15 utc | 176

This is what happens to you when you’re a REAL journalist.
“I am under surveillance and investigation for terrorism by at least two nation state actors (Austria and UK), if not Israel and the US as well.
I think most people in my position would have bowed out. I am trying my best in the circumstances I am in, to work normally, but it’s not easy and unfortunately and I do not feel that I can speak freely.”
https://nitter.poast.org/richimedhurst/status/1963393638203097185#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 4 2025 10:17 utc | 177

Anyone read this joke of an article where they try to pin the recent murders of nazis in ukraine on Russia?

Though Stelnikov has said he acted on his own initiative, investigators say he was groomed by Russian handlers.

As believable as the dupes blamed for terrorism a few years ago, normal people who got ‘radicalised’ in a week by ISIS on the internet.

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Sep 4 2025 10:26 utc | 178

Melaleuca @162: “The tictok generation is absolutely convinced the precision of the Chinese 80th parade is AI.”
That’s not conviction.
That’s cope.
It’s wishcasting. Many Americans can see the direction things are going in their country’s relationship with China. What they just saw doesn’t look like starving peasants armed with pointed sticks and they are thinking “Shit! We’re going to have to fight these guys? We are so fucked!” Rather than accept reality, they escape to denial.
As well, people remember Trump’s parade. Woketards in their tribalism at the time laughed at how pathetic it was, not realizing it represented America and themselves. Now it is all they have to compare with they need the denial… but then woketards are already skilled at reality denial so it is something they fall into naturally.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 4 2025 11:09 utc | 179

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 4 2025 1:20 utc | 126
Indeed. Guy Debord would have been gobsmacked.
Any one watching cannot help but compare it to the US military parade organised earlier this year.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 4 2025 11:15 utc | 180

A Ukrainian weapons manufacturer will begin production of fuel for long-range missiles in Denmark, the Danish government said on Wednesday, marking the first expansion abroad by a Ukrainian defence company. …
The fuel production will be located near Denmark’s Skydstrup air force base. …
The Danish government recently allocated 500 million crowns ($78 million) to support Ukrainian firms expanding in the Nordic country. (tvp

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 4 2025 11:37 utc | 181

Ok time to get started on ‘Cannibal’ Carney(vorus)
Start with this and work backwards over the days.
‘🇨🇦🏴‍☠️🇪🇺🇺🇦 Canadian Prime Minister Says Ready to Participate in Rearmament of Europe
“The Rearming Europe strategy is a major defense initiative, and we have been directly engaged with our European partners <...> to ensure that Canada is part of that process,”
Prime Minister Mark Carney said, adding that the process also includes continued military assistance to Ukraine.
He also said that within a few years, the country’s defense spending will exceed 2% of the country’s GDP.
Last month, Canada announced plans to increase its military presence in the Arctic, including a new air-situation radar station. The prime minister said the country intends to cooperate with all friendly countries regarding the Arctic, specifying that Russia is not one of them.
🔺Historical background: Canada is the country that hid the largest number of Ukrainian Nazis on its territory from justice after the victory of the USSR in the Second World War.
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/149463

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 4 2025 11:37 utc | 182

reply to 103
I will keep saying this: there has never been a better time in human history for non-aggression pacts to be successful. Satellites, remote sensors, drones, and declining populations which lack young men to go to war. This isn’t Hitler sneaking up on Stalin anymore. Tech has changed the world, it just needs to change the inclination towards warfare.

Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 4 2025 11:50 utc | 183

Passerby (181).
Good spot.
A bit more on it.
“COPENHAGEN (Reuters) -A Ukrainian weapons manufacturer will begin production of fuel for long-range missiles in Denmark, the Danish government said on Wednesday, marking the first expansion abroad by a Ukrainian defence company.
The Ukrainian company is Fire Point, maker of the Flamingo missiles, which President Volodymyr Zelenskiy has described as his country’s most successful weapon. In June, Zelenskiy said Ukraine was in talks on joint weapons production with Denmark, Norway, Germany, Canada, Britain, and Lithuania.
The fuel production will be located near Denmark’s Skydstrup air force base, home to the Nordic country’s fleet of F-16 fighter jets.Denmark has been a steadfast supporter of Ukraine since Russia’s all-out invasion of Ukraine began in 2022 and has so far contributed 67.6 billion Danish crowns ($10.13 billion) in military support, according to the Danish foreign ministry.The Danish government recently allocated 500 million crowns to support Ukrainian firms expanding in the Nordic country.”
The Danes of course have form when it comes to rolling over for Nazi’s.
“In 1939 neutral Denmark agreed to a nonaggression treaty with Nazi Germany – Danes did not establish a government-in-exile or present an active initial resistance to the occupation. Instead, there was broad collaboration with the occupiers, though under subdued protest by many – the Danes upheld a legal fiction until late summer 1943 that they were still neutral rather than occupied. That gave Germany what it wanted: quiet and order in Denmark. It also helped relations with Berlin that the collaborationist government of Eric Scavenius signed the Anti-Comintern Pact, while some Danes volunteered to serve in the Waffen-SS.”
Though eventually the Danes – took up arms and resisted the WWII Nazi’s, fast forward to today, and the Danes are aiding and abetting the Neo-Nazi’s in Ukraine..

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 4 2025 11:58 utc | 184

@Poul | Sep 4 2025 2:33 utc | 138

President Alexander Stubb does not know his own country’s history.
Finland lost a big piece of territory in the Soviet attack on Finland in 1939-40 (The Winter War). The Continuation War where Finland tried to regain the lost territory only cost a small pice of land in the Far North.
Just look at these maps.
https://finland.fi/life-society/tracing-finlands-eastern-border/

Finland lost access to the Arctic sea after WWII, and Norway gained a border with the Soviet Union, now Russia.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 4 2025 12:36 utc | 185

@james | Sep 4 2025 3:38 utc | 143

thanks for the finnish history lesson on border changes..

Perhaps not finished yet.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 4 2025 12:38 utc | 186

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 4 2025 9:47 utc | 170
Just for the people to understand the situation in France : Bayroux wanted to resign (The guy is a crook : he was prime minister for a full year so he can benefit from the attached status of retired prime, so now he can leave…).
Everyone suspect that Macron refused his resignation as he has no credible choice for a new prime minister. Anyone in his political group he nominates will make Lizz Truss mandate look fairly long.
Bayroux then asked for a confidence vote before the vote on his contested budget. His resignation can’t be refused.
There are two forms of confidence vote in France , the First one is government induced (49.1) and can proceed with relative majority (50%+1 of the votes) the other one follow the rejection of a law by the parliament and force passing it by the government (49.3) and is proceeded by absolute majority (50%+1 of the total of MP).
So “le petit roi” (as Pepe Escobar call him) has been put a knife on his throat by “an ally” (Bayroux).
Macron lost his relative majority last year by dissolving the parliament and now he might be forced to nominate an prime outside of his majority and becoming someone who cut ribbons and drink tea with Ursula (a powerless president). There is always a possibility for him to take power with Art.16 of the constitution but as the context for such an extreme measure is not there , he might be demoted by the parliament quickly if he does…
Anyway, nobody can suffer the bastard anymore in France ; he’s politically über-roasted … I won’t be surprised about him to grasp at his function by provoking an “insurrection context” : he his mad enough for that. But that will only trigger a “palace revolution”. “The caste” don’t want civil war or worse the peasant to cease power …

Posted by: Savonarole | Sep 4 2025 13:16 utc | 187

Norwegian & James
I’d add that with border changes, Finnish political shifts* from Paavo Tapio Lipponen pro-USA Iraq war stance’s undoing to Tarja Kaarina Halonen softly-softly to Sauli Niinistö onwards illustrate the patience of Borg Collective’s boiling frog strategy
*purchases of 1995 61 US F-18’s (C& D) and December 2021 64 F-35’s equally indicative of realignments and wider intent

Posted by: Mercury | Sep 4 2025 13:20 utc | 188

There are no security guarantees that Ukraine’s so-called supporters are willing to offer. At least, not out of the goodness of their heart or any altruistic ideals. Besides, didn’t Ukraine spend several months in early 2024 and signed security agreements with 14 European countries and Canada?
What they refer to as “security guarantees” are nothing more than mineral rights, land rights, energy rights, etc. Basically, these supporters are selling their “protection” services in exchange for Ukraine’s wealth. There’s no other reason why these supporters would want to send hundreds of billions worth of hardware and send their own soldiers/citizens to die so that the Ukrainian oligarchs can keep all that wealth they stole after 1991. They’re only going to give “security guarantees” if there is something in it for them.
Some “supporters” are already invested in Ukrainian properties and/or resources. Can you guess who they are? Yes, those who sent money/hardware so far, with USA, UK, and Germany leading the pack. The other supporters sent something too, but were compensated by one of the leading three supporters. Hungary and Slovakia have no interest in Ukraine, and no interest in saving the Ukrainian oligarchs.
There’s not gonna be any nuclear bombs going off in Ukraine – who wants irradiated agricultural products, forestry, water? Nobody. And if Ukraine ends up cratered like the moon’s surface, good luck getting those minerals out.
Zelenski and his oligarchs are selling off Ukraine for protection, so they can keep plundering it for the benefit of the West. They don’t give a hoot about the Ukrainian people or Ukraine’s future. And until the Ukrainian people wake up and smell the gun powder, the war will keep on going, until there will be no Ukraine left. Russia will permanently integrate east Ukraine, South Ukraine, as far as Transnistria; western Ukraine will be re-taken by Poland, Hungary, Romania, Moldova, Bielarus. Ukraine will cease to exist as a country. NATO will be on Russia’s border, just as it already is in Finland, Latvia/Lithuania/Estonia, Turkey, the Arctic.
And there you have it: denazification, demilitarization, neutrality, & respect for the russian minorities – mission accomplished.

Posted by: Spiridon | Sep 4 2025 13:33 utc | 189

@ John | Sep 4 2025 5:06 utc | 155
what are you hoping to achieve posting the same shit on every thread, every other day?? your actions imply insanity.. you’re definitely not the same john in italy either..
@ Norwegian | Sep 4 2025 12:38 utc | 186
definitely not… i wasn’t thinking of that, but hopefully things don’t get out of hand here..
@ Mercury | Sep 4 2025 13:20 utc | 188
i tend to not think of the finnish people being fascist and warmongers… i might have to revise my viewpoint.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Sep 4 2025 14:48 utc | 190

I wrote an article about this some time ago.
Security guarantees are impossible things. When the situation arises where they are needed you never know what the guarantor will do. Ask Poland how the British and French guarantees in 1939 worked out for them. And even when they work they can be destabilizing: look at how the Baltics behave nowadays.
Security guarantees for Ukraine are a bad idea

Posted by: Wim | Sep 4 2025 15:36 utc | 191

Besides the question how Russia might react to Ukraine &it’s puppet masters preparing to invade Russia, they seem to forget about the costs of building an even bigger army.
France’s government is about to implode for the second time in just over a year, with the country expecting IMF to impose a draconian savings regime soon, due to its debt spiralling out of control. Other European countries fare not much better, with economies tanking and Europe not even trying to keep up with China and the US in technology development. Soon, there simply won’t be money to send to Ukraine, not for buying weapons, not for paying soldiers. Not, an important point completely overlooked so far, for re-building Ukraine’s economy. Who is going to do that, when all capable men are dead, injured or serving in the army.?

Posted by: Marvin | Sep 4 2025 15:46 utc | 192

The promises of “security guarantees” after the war is over, when those nations are totally unwilling to provide troops *now*, are hilariously absurd.

Posted by: catdog | Sep 4 2025 16:40 utc | 193

Oui | Sep 3 2025 21:52 utc | 92
*** Socialism in Norway …
International “superstar” who’ll now work once again for Norway
Polls place Labour as Norway’s largest party at present ***
So really, no change. Cosmetics.
Any article which refers to the disgusting US-arselicker Stoltenberg as a “superstar” has to either be insane delusion, or satire.
Just how can any public (with Britain being every bit as bad as the others) be so brain-dead as to repeatedly swallow such guff?

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 4 2025 16:41 utc | 194

LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2025 3:47 utc | 146
*** All of those countries that they colonized and waged genocide on are reverse-colonizing Europe.
America is due for a Reconquista, too, at some point.***
Which side are you actually on?
The populations of the European countries (including Britain) may eventually realise that the ruling class — which dispossessed and oppressed them, and thereafter used them as disposable imperial cannon-fodder — is now in various ways levering in vast hordes from former areas of imperial conquest in order to mobilise at least part of these hordes against native European populations once they seriously turn against their “masters” and attempt to overthrow their exploitative rule.
But will that widespread realisation come too late to save the nations?
The transnational ruling class is extremely anti-national, with the notable exception of its Zionist element which is fanatically, exclusively “nationalist” towards itself, and determined to subvert and destroy all other (real) identities.
The self-appointing Overclass even has its own religion, that of monopoly-capitalistg economic cultism. Again, with the Zionist element having invented an additional, exclusivist deity — namely itself.

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 4 2025 17:33 utc | 195

At the time this “conspiracy” theory was scoffed and ridiculed because the undeveloped East Med field would *never* be economic, and *never* be able to compete with cheap Russian gas, for which there was already longstanding infrastructure.
We are much closer to 2030 now than 2004-5-6, and lookie lookie.
Cheap Russian gas is no longer cheap, and no longer flowing to Europe.
The East Med field is fully under the control of Israel.. . .
Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 4 2025 9:52 utc | 172
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I have stated at least once here that the Nord Stream sabotage very conveniently opens the way—the market—for gas that actually belongs to the Palestinians and is being stolen and exploited by the Occupier.
See also https://unctad.org/news/unrealized-potential-palestinian-oil-and-gas-reserves

Posted by: Jane | Sep 4 2025 17:59 utc | 196

I respectfully disagree that the 1955 Austrian model can work now. Before 2014, maybe, but not now. And if, under such an arrangement, NATO (assuming the Russians settle for less than total victory and that hideous organization survives) remilitarizes what’s left of Ukraine, as I believe would be certain, what will Moscow do, go to war again? To achieve what, yet another agreement that will not be honored by their “partners”? Not just neutrality, but IMO any agreement with the West is worthless. Maybe I’m naive, but I’d like to think there were at least a few gentlemen in Western capitals in 1955. Today, we have the likes of Starmer, Macron, Merz and whatever Trump is, exactly. Constitutional provisions, treaties, Security Council Resolutions — pie crusts. Remember UNSCR 1244 (1999) re Kosovo, UNSCR 2231 (2015) re the JCPOA? ’nuff said…. IMO if this war ends with anything less than Moscow’s control (either direct, or indirect via a puppet regime) over all of Ukraine (minus any crumbs in the far west for Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Romania), we’re setting the stage for a new war. There’s a reason that there never was a viable Ukrainian state in all of history before 1991, when it emerged deus ex machina and immediately became what lawyers call an attractive nuisance. (FWIIW, I don’t think Putin agrees with me on this. He’d rather have a deal, as far as I can tell. We’ll see if the siloviki let the Kremlin’s excuse for Charlie Brown take another run at Lucy’s football….)

Posted by: Jim Jatras | Sep 4 2025 18:09 utc | 197

Posted by: No body | Sep 3 2025 22:45 utc | 105
“There will be troops on the ground, and there will be weapon plants, and there will be economy destroying largesse, because the only other option (losing) is the worst possible outcome for them.”
You mean: “There will be dead troops on the ground, and there will be completely destroyed weapon plants, and there will be western economy destroying largesse, because the only option (losing) is the only available outcome for the ‘Waste’.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Sep 4 2025 18:50 utc | 198

IMO if this war ends with anything less than Moscow’s control (either direct, or indirect via a puppet regime) over all of Ukraine (minus any crumbs in the far west for Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Romania), we’re setting the stage for a new war.. . .
Posted by: Jim Jatras | Sep 4 2025 18:09 utc | 197
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I agree with you and I suspect that most MoA barflies do as well.

Posted by: Jane | Sep 4 2025 20:03 utc | 199

What is the plan?
It was always to own and make profits from Russian resources.
Especially by monopoly control of energy supply to Europeans.
Now banning and physically disrupting us Europeans from a free market and ability to purchase our hydrocarbons and in future even electricity directly through land based EurAsian supply chains. Hah! The myth of ‘freedom of choice’.
We are urged – forced – to purchase it from the US!
In quantities the US obviously cannot supply.
At prices multiple of what it costs in the US.
That plan was being pushed by Candy Rice during BushJnrs opening the century with war with his Daddy’s Deadly crew running the show.
‘THEY’ can’t own – conquer – the Russian resources, having failed by hook and crook again.
So they have found a work around as always.
Let India’s owned Oligarchy buy it from the RF at the cheapest price (that’s the clever whizz behind the supposed cap in how much RF can sell their hydrocarbons for!)
Then channel it through to the corporations and hedge funders to supply us Europeans forced to believe we are buying US extracted Gas and Oil! At quadruple the price that it was.
By hook or crook they find ways to make sure it’s only them who can profit even if they can’t capture the RF resources.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 4 2025 9:18 utc | 168
I’ve been cursing the USA for starting the conflict in Ukraine to disrupt what comity existed between Russia and the rest of Europe before 2014, and my antipathy toward the USA has been getting stronger ever since the announcement of the Power of Siberia 2 agreement two days ago and much gloating commentary claiming that Russia has stopped all gas deliveries to Europe (for which I have yet to hear an official word from Putin or Gazprom). If it weren’t for Mexico and its relatively lax COVID restrictions, I would’ve offed myself or something.

Posted by: joey_n | Sep 4 2025 21:27 utc | 200