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September 24, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-222
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Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 24 2025 20:39 utc | 99
But surely something innovative could be cooked up to put Trump in his place.
I don’t think Moscow HQ sees it as their mission to put Trump in his place. The job is to liberate the four oblasts and then see what’s next. That’s happening as we speak, so planning will be about advance speed vs. minimising losses. Plus prepare forces to keep EUrope in check.
I also wonder if Russia would be better off just mobilizing the entire country and going on a total war footing.
Of course not! That could break Russia’s neck. Somebody has to harvest, to drill, to teach and so on. That was true even in WW2 (when a lot of women took over jobs like driving tractors) but the SMO is nowhere near total war. Moscow has good control on the situation, militarily and politically. There was a time when people complained they’re not putting enough effort into the propaganda war — where are those voices now? (Yes, I know that forum clown vargas is just around the corner 🙂
Posted by: Konami | Sep 24 2025 20:47 utc | 101
Trump: “I said if Europe gave you enough support you could win. They haven’t given you enough support. Sucks to be you.”
How people see more than that in Trump’s post is beyond me.
Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 24 2025 20:42 utc | 100
Of course it is beyond you. IQ = 73 like your idole?
It means: if the european vassals will send one million soldiers in Ukraine, you could win; they haven’t given you that support.
But not sure one million would be enough.
Trump again:
“I have to say, I look at London where you have a terrible mayor — terrible, terrible mayor — and it’s been so changed, so changed. Now they want to go to sharia law … Both their immigration and their suicidal energy ideas will be the death of Western Europe.”
A fucking liar supported by gruff.
Prove me wrong!
Posted by: Naive | Sep 24 2025 21:01 utc | 102
I also wonder if Russia would be better off just mobilizing the entire country and going on a total war footing. That would be better than pretending that this isn’t existential, because clearly it is for Russia.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 24 2025 20:39 utc | 99
Agree about the existential nature, which is why Russia’s biggest ally is time; by taking a deliberately measured and tempo’d approach Russia has exposed the following aspects:
– the lack of unity within the European ‘Union’
– the paper-thin strength of the European industrial base
– the uncertain performance of much of NATO’s much vaunted “superior” weapon systems
– the outdated nature of NATO military strategy and tactics in a near-peer conflict
– the financial vulnerability of the West’s FIRE-based economies
– the social and cultural stresses within the artificial nations-state of Ukraine
No need to rush things, let some or all of these factors play out as they may.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 24 2025 21:03 utc | 103
Trump: “European electricity bills are now four to five times more expensive than those in China, and two to three times higher than the United States. And our bills are coming way down.”
Fucking liar supported by gruff!
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU000072610
Prove me wrong!
Posted by: Naive | Sep 24 2025 21:05 utc | 104
Talks talking place in New York between US (Rubio) and Russia (Lavrov) delegations. No Ukraine or EU around, the grown-ups are talking.
hmm, Lavrov is doing a monologe?
Posted by: MAKK | Sep 24 2025 21:05 utc | 105
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 24 2025 20:39 utc | 99
Ghost
Shadow banned was an AI assisted troll. No loss at all. Sure his AI was clever but still just AI. Occasionally he would make a short pithy comment that made sense – I assume that was the real guy not the AI drivel.
Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 24 2025 20:42 utc | 100
Now I have neither Trump Derangement Syndrome or Trump worshipers Syndrome, so I think I can make a reasonable judgement. I think this time you are right. He quite cleverly ditched Ukraine, but in a way that side stepped criticism. Occasionally he does show some real smarts. Europe was “hoisted on its own petard.”
Posted by: watcher | Sep 24 2025 21:09 utc | 106
Trump: “And I’m really good at predicting things, you know?… I don’t say that in a braggadocious way, but it’s true. I’ve been right about everything.”
He predicted he would make peace in Ukraine in 24 hours. Very good prediction indeed.
Fucking liar supported by gruff.
Prove me wrong!
Posted by: Naive | Sep 24 2025 21:11 utc | 107
Ukrainian Nazis attacked the center of Novorossiysk.
According to preliminary reports, two civilians were killed and three others were wounded.
Residential buildings and a hotel were damaged.
A state of emergency has been declared in Novorossiysk.
At least eight people are currently known to have been injured in the Ukrainian drone attack. Three are in critical or extremely critical condition.
Seven houses and several dozen cars were damaged. A fire is still burning in one building.
Posted by: MiniMO | Sep 24 2025 21:11 utc | 108
dembot TDS victim: “Trump said an unflattering thing about migrants and now I have to change my panties! It’s all Trump’s fault!”
I appreciate how Trump enjoys triggering the highly triggerable.
Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 24 2025 21:15 utc | 109
Posted by: Naive | Sep 24 2025 21:05 utc | 103
The thing about Trump is that he is totally unpredictable (at least on the surface). Ignore what he actually says, just look at what he does. The guy is a liar but not quite in the ordinary sense. He just spouts out what he is thinking at the time, more or less stream thoughts, not really intended to be believed.
My take is that Trump really is quite deeply racist. Likes white Russia but not Indians or Chinese or i assume blacks. Based on that I think he really does not want war with Russia, but would take on China if he dared.
The confounding one is Israel. He has always been a zionist BUT I wonder if he dislikes being pushed around by them. He may respect them because of their business skills, but he still wants to win against them. I am musing here. That supposed take down of a spy site!!!! If true it would seem someone in his admin is turning of the Mossad link, cutting the leading strings????
Posted by: watcher | Sep 24 2025 21:18 utc | 110
Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 24 2025 21:15 utc | 108
The key to not getting triggered by Trump is to just watch what he does. Ignore what he says.
Alternatively, you could keep a scorecard on his verbal meanderings. How many turn out to be significant? My guess is, very close to zero.
Nobody holds him accountable for lies, but that is par for the course. Nobody held Biden accountable for his ceasefire lies … remember those? Heck, I still remember Blinken boasting about a ceasefire deal on the last day of the Biden Administration. It held up for 2 weeks, I think …
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 24 2025 21:21 utc | 111
Posted by: frithguild | Sep 24 2025 14:40 utc | 34
Any parent knows the best way to scupper the naive, misguided, plans of their child is not to resist them, that only spurs them on to petulantly see the project through, often with disastrous results, but to buy into their fantasy and support their efforts and then watch as reality bites hard. I suspect Trump’s done the same with man-child Zelensky and his Euro-backers, agreed with their fictional construct, to shield against DS attempts to blame him for the inevitable failure of the proxy-war and impeachment III, whilst allowing Russia the time to find a solution to the issue (always his preferred option).
As for TDS, I think it’s really an inability or unwillingness to challenge a proscribed set of opinions, which forces its proponents into adopting views that superficially appear to resemble TDS. Early amateur natural philosophers spend many fruitless years pursuing and exploring numerous scientific dead-ends because they failed to challenge the contemporary view of the world. Similarly, just as bad air was mistakenly blamed for illnesses, leading to many a failure in preventative medicine, so their portrayal of Trump as a dim-witted carnival barker, leads them to repeated analytical failures.
Posted by: Milites | Sep 24 2025 21:22 utc | 112
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 24 2025 21:03 utc | 102
So far the european supporters of the ukronazis are shouting, whining, crying, propagandising, but they do nothing more than they did for the last 3 years and a half.
Now there is an interesting story. The threats of war are used by the eurocrat liars to federalise the european countries like Bismark did to unite Germany in the 19th century.
Program: ursula as president of Germany and micron as emperor of an european empire.
Posted by: Naive | Sep 24 2025 21:22 utc | 113
Posted by: Nobody Special | Sep 24 2025 15:30 utc | 51
Sorry but the big SIM farm UN terror cellular network shutdown story is bullshit.
https://cybersect.substack.com/p/that-secret-service-sim-farm-story
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 24 2025 21:28 utc | 114
Now there is an interesting story. The threats of war are used by the eurocrat liars to federalise the european countries like Bismark did to unite Germany in the 19th century.
Program: ursula as president of Germany and micron as emperor of an european empire.
Posted by: Naive | Sep 24 2025 21:22 utc | 112
Gotta say I don’t see either of those two characters as anywhere near approaching Bismarck’s depth of thinking and foresight.
I don’t even see them as fit to even wear the shoes of Brandt or de Gaulle, just a personal opinion.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 24 2025 21:35 utc | 115
Posted by: watcher | Sep 24 2025 21:18 utc | 109
My take is that Trump really is quite deeply racist.
Of course he is! A lot of examples of what he did proving that he is a racist. See what happened with Obama picture as president. Or with one banknote…
Many things he said, he did. Period.
Liking hitting Venezuelan boats and killing the people inside. Fucking criminal.
Did everyone forget the assassination of Soleimani?
The confounding one is Israel.
Here again, only to look at what he does. Supporting the judéonazis and not only with words.
Just wondering what is the altitude of his property in Florida…
Posted by: Naive | Sep 24 2025 21:37 utc | 116
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 24 2025 21:35 utc | 114
Of course, you are 100% right, they are just puppets on the strings.
Interesting are the people who hide behind them. The manipulators.
Do you guess whom?
Posted by: Naive | Sep 24 2025 21:39 utc | 117
@ Naive | Sep 24 2025 21:39 utc | 116
Indeed, if only those money-changing tables in the temple hadn’t got overturned…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 24 2025 21:46 utc | 118
RT says that an anti-Russian resolution in the UN got only 36 votes in favor out of 193 countries: every EU country except Hungary, joined by a few others around the world. So that’s 157 that did not vote in favor.
But RT makes absolutely no mention of how many voted against it, and included nothing to search on to find the actual vote tally. For all we know from that article, maybe only 2 countries out of 193 voted against it, or maybe 157 did. I’d like to know. Does anyone know what the vote was, preferably with a link to the facts?
Posted by: Dalit | Sep 24 2025 21:49 utc | 119
Polli | Sep 24 2025 14:24 utc | 30–
I find Izvestia’s English site a better source than RT for domestic Russian news. If you have translation software, there are many Russian language media sites to investigate. Izvestia has this excellent article about the ongoing budget discussions for 2026 and beyond. You might find this Wiki page helpful for your explorations.
IGL: Joti Brar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-aQ2v4vgB4
“Is Russia’s intervention in Ukraine revolutionary?”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2025 22:03 utc | 121
Please see this CIA website with documentation on:
“Project Aerodynamic”
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/AERODYNAMIC%20%20%20VOL.%201_0113.pdf
This documentation about the operations the US had in ukraine directly after World War Two and how the CIA paid people to hate Russians for the last 70 years.
Congratulations to B and the rest of the bar flies on the new diggs
Posted by: Hot Carl | Sep 24 2025 22:17 utc | 122
Dalit | Sep 24 2025 21:49 utc | 118–
I share your frustration with RT and its shoddy reporting. Neither TASS, Sputnik, nor several other sites I perused while amassing details for my reply to Polli had any mention of that vote. The UN voting data doesn’t include today’s voting results yet. Team Trump behavior at the UN is 100% scattershot and will take time to make sense of if that’s possible.
Just catching up on the attack on Novorossiysk. It appears that Ukraine used two types of drone, unmanned navy drones to cross the Black Sea into the mouth of the estuary which then released FPV drones to carry out attacks on buildings.
This would explain the presence of the US Navy Poseidon P8 in the area the other day, but my question is how were the drones being controlled at such distance?
Anyone got anything on this?
Posted by: Orson Cart | Sep 24 2025 22:21 utc | 124
I used to call myself a leftist – now it seems like I don’t care much any more on the left/right issue. I was putting hopes both in Sahra Wagenknecht (left) and Marine Le Pen or Victor Orban (right, supposedly).
Then how about the Atlanticist/Gaullist scale? Well, I’m hundred per cent Gaullist like most barflies, too. But, lately I’ve learnt that the Europeans (in Brussels) can be just as delusional, irrational, stupid – and, therefore, dangerous or suicidal, as any US American. Ukraine and North Stream are just the top examples.
So let us look for those in power who still try to make sense in what they say, and have enough autonomy to decide for themselves and avoid mainstream judgements. Like Orban, Fico and Putin in Europe. So this had me turn toward a pro-Trump stance for quite a while, almost until today. No TDS, William, you misdiagnosed me completely.
The Europeans have hurt themselves by assuming that they got some kind of “moral superiority” over Putin and that “Ukraine is winning”. For if it wasn’t winning, then the irrationality and danger of the present policies would lie open for everybody to see. So there needs to be that narrative that Ukraine is winning.
Now this latest tweet by Trump (see #6 of this thread) encourages Europe on its delusional and expensive path by portraying their goal (have Ukraine win decisively over Russia) as realistic. He prevents them from waking up, right at a time when there would be a chance to wake up, given the facts on the ground. Trump’s promising start has almost completely given way to the Biden narrative. This is a serious matter, with much at stake for us Germans – therefore I need to know who is around Trump and fills him with that bullshit that he posted – about the military and economic situation in Russia.
Posted by: grunzt | Sep 24 2025 22:27 utc | 125
In Simplicus’s analysis of the Nutland-Kagan spox for a NGO plan for Europe inside Kagan’s distasteful illustrations a reader may conclude:-
*For apex predators to remain such, all else must be on the menu*.
Further:
*All low hanging satrap fruit must convincingly lead their segment of the choir if they’re to distract the reaper for one more harvest*…
…and just keep guzzling the “we can-win” kool-aid in full view of twitterarti audience. A noticeable difficulty being Europeans have been slowly boiling in the facts, truths and disinformation pot for so long even the head chef gets confused which ingredients are which.
A Mad Hatter like Trump gives his mercury nitrate addled erratic moody brain freedom to improv truthiness percentages if they serve the dual purpose to dog whistle both allies and enemies to giving him useful feedback to which way they’ll likely jump. Helpful if announcements prolong market bubbles to the next voting weigh-in (side note to V.P.’s & background entourage:- avoid giving side eye, while emperor proclaims/snorts more nitrate mix*).
*See Eastwood’s: High Plains Drifter scene: “I’m the Mayor and I’m the Sheriff!
Related: I still say King Chuck’s charm offensive (& weird public Starmer invite set-up ploy) is the tip of a large (tailored for prime narcissist) carrot with whale harpoon buried inside it.( My wildly speculative guess is it involves land collateral & Ukrainian munitions trade, possibly some surface Canadian give, starting with arctic airbases maybe later a Greenland lease?)
Either way Trump is on one of his pivots and we’ll have to wait on history to reveal the fuller facts, though Lavrov in the UN does a commendable job of illuminating the board, position of the pieces and those who placed the moves.
Posted by: Mercury | Sep 24 2025 22:32 utc | 126
Gruff still banging on about “TDS” as his lord and savior pushes for moar war, a forever war, even, in Ukraine. Will he be the last rat to jump off this sinking ship of state?
There’s something to be said about the undying loyalty of Trump supporters. Doesn’t matter what the guy does, his supporters will be there to make excuses, to find some hidden meaning in his word salad posts and speeches to figure out how he’s really against the deep state and presumably US imperialism, a real deal isolationist who only wants to… topple the same Latin American governments that Obama and Biden did, I guess?
Posted by: fnord | Sep 24 2025 22:40 utc | 127
Call me Naive, but I was hoping for a threaded discussion platform where it was easy to skip posts that are nothing than a gratuitous exchange of insults. With a block user feature. Why migrate the worst outdared features of TypePad?
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Sep 24 2025 22:50 utc | 128
Posted by: fnord | Sep 24 2025 22:40 utc | 126
He said that he ended seven wars in seven months. Some people are saying, do not listen to what he says, but look at what he does.
I looked: he ended no war in seven months, but began three wars agains Yemen, Iran and Venezuela and supported the ethnic cleansing of Gaza and Cisjordania.
Fucking criminal liar!
Posted by: Naive | Sep 24 2025 22:58 utc | 129
@ Dalit | Sep 24 2025 21:49 utc | 118
But RT makes absolutely no mention of how many voted against it
I’ve no interest in defending RT, they should’ve put that info out. However, general assembly votes have turned to a contest for “how much we can do without pissing US too much.”
Almost nobody in global south votes against anti-Russian resolutions. Since there is no difference, they abstain for “plausible deniability”. I very much doubt anything changed this particular time.
Russians see it for what it is, as it is. Only the Western media makes a popularity contest out of GA votes.
Posted by: boneless | Sep 24 2025 23:03 utc | 130
Call me Naive, but I was hoping for a threaded discussion platform where it was easy to skip posts that are nothing than a gratuitous exchange of insults. With a block user feature. Why migrate the worst outdared features of TypePad?
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Sep 24 2025 22:50 utc | 127
Omg, yes. On a phone, it’s got twice as much blank space between the lines, 30% more blank space at the margins, and at the page sides floating in black. Horrible. And no review function.
Worse than before. Don’t tell me you haven’t got a single German web master friend who can help bring this site into 2025. And the sycophancy about “a job well done” is sickening.
Posted by: Gerhardt G. | Sep 24 2025 23:06 utc | 131
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Sep 24 2025 22:50 utc | 127
Only look where the insults are coming from:
White House spokesman: “Mayor Khan clearly suffers from a severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome and has done a terrible job as mayor. His ridiculous open border and unchecked immigration policies have allowed violent crime to run rampant in his city.”
Source:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/24/uk/sadiq-khan-donald-trump-unga-speech-intl
That fucking moron does not even know that the border control is not in the hands of the Mayor of London.
Posted by: Naive | Sep 24 2025 23:07 utc | 132
Posted by: Gerhardt G. | Sep 24 2025 23:06 utc | 130
Your comment is… sickening.
Posted by: Naive | Sep 24 2025 23:08 utc | 133
Right now, Project Ukraine is all about who’s got the financing, and who’s going to pay for it. Until someone begins seriously to write some checks, DJT has signaled that the U.S. is putting Project Ukraine in its rear-view mirror…but lovingly, with plenty of empathy & good fellow feeling.
DJT is pulling away.
Notice, though, that no matter what DJT posts on Truth Social the Russian military continues to mulch through the Ukrainian countryside.
DJT cannot help Ukraine retain control over countless villages & fortified strongholds in Donbass which mean nothing to DJT but which represent existential gains for Russia.
Nothing DJT says has an impact on the actual LOC or the gritty fighting taking place there.
It is good to allow Lavrov the chance to recalibrate DJT’s intemperate remarks w/ a dose of sanity, but it’s not as if DJT’s intemperate remarks capture any kind of battlefield reality. It’s moreover true that they are not predictive of the future.
Obviously the European partners of NATO and the legacy media which supports the European partners of NATO love to hear DJT trash-talk the “paper tiger” and boost Zelensky.
But such rhetoric has no currency on the LOC.
Maneuvers there, and battlefield gains, function independently of DJT’s random pronouncements.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 24 2025 23:26 utc | 134
Posted by: Naive | Sep 24 2025 21:01 utc | 101
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Shariah law is just holy law.
Like, don’t kill, don’t commit adultery, don’t engage in usury.
All the stuff that Trump and other Zionists are fond of.
Can one be “Chosen” if they break all of God’s laws?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 24 2025 23:38 utc | 135
Posted by: Naive | Sep 24 2025 23:07 utc | 131
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The insecurity of white folks in the West is delicious considering how much violence and oppression they have visited on the Global South for centuries.
Being Muslim is a belief, not a race. Anyone who doesn’t understand that is probably the American leader.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 24 2025 23:42 utc | 136
*** This is a serious matter, with much at stake for us Germans – therefore I need to know who is around Trump and fills him with that bullshit that he posted – about the military and economic situation in Russia.
Posted by: grunzt | Sep 24 2025 22:27 utc | 124
It doesnt matter. The only thing that matters is the narrative and the effect the narrative will have. The dumping on Russia is DJT salting the ground to stop claims he is a Putin Puffer, Russian asset from sprouting like poison ivy, while he jilts Kallas, et als (By accepting their carefully triangulated feminized beaurocratic bullshit of all things). It’s all pretty hilarious actually.
With all the bullshit in the room, the necessity for having a belief in anything wafts into nothingness. DJT statements don’t come from his belief of any objective truth. He has not relied on any advisors. All he wants is to achieve his goal of stopping the killing and will bullshit his way to getting what he wants. Very New York.
Posted by: frithguild | Sep 25 2025 0:06 utc | 137
Konstantinovska is toast
https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-frontline-report-september-723
om a 1495 AFU loss day
Meanwhile S has a new post, how to interpret trump’s lat5est (anyone paying feel free to detail)
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/trump-shocks-world-with-major-ukrainian
As I mentioned before migration, it’s a gold vs oil war…
Gold/brics (and defecting nato like turkey and poland) seems to be winning.
Posted by: Newbie | Sep 25 2025 0:14 utc | 138
Some people – I think – are saying that Trump will drain the swamp. But which swamp?
The PNAC swamp?
Or the MAGA swamp?
Or the Zionist swamp?
What is the difference between the PNAC, MAGA and the Zionists?
For I see no difference. Please, enlight me, when possible.
Posted by: Naive | Sep 25 2025 0:18 utc | 139
Orson Cart | Sep 24 2025 22:21 utc | 123
Apparently Starlink is used to control the naval drones. FPV smal flying drones are generally operated on site.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 25 2025 0:22 utc | 140
Posted by: Naive | Sep 25 2025 0:18 utc | 138
The simple answer is: Trump is puerile swamp himself and encompasses a part of all the others as well. He clearly supports the Zionists, he clearly fosters the neocons as we see with continued attempts at regime change such as Venezuela. And MAGA? Well that is just Making Assholery Great Again like he demonstrates himself. After Biden he’s proven to be no better and even more stupid, and part of the swamp of graft and corruption racket like all the rest. In some ways even worse since he has no conscience in promoting his own business interests for profits as well.
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 0:29 utc | 141
Posted by: Naive | Sep 25 2025 0:18 utc | 138
I forgot to say he’s also been pushing US imperialism and continued US hegemony at every other country’s expense as well. If it is not another country its the average US citizen that pays.
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 0:33 utc | 142
BTW gold @ 1.200-1.300 is/will be a nexus point between one side and the other
Painful for all sides
Funny how military situation seem secondary….
Meanwhile a nice question F-35 , a strike fighter if stealth holds, or su57, a nice superiority fighter with a so-so stealth.
Seems too much is riding on f35 stealth holding…
7 years and counting for a deal (2-4 likely, beyond that, too late)
no deal might mean ww3
European nuke war is already a minor incident…(BTW it must be quite one sided before RF decide to leave us out of it)
Posted by: Newbie | Sep 25 2025 0:34 utc | 143
After all Trump is a foreign agent, a Russian one.
Look at the US$ index:
https://t.me/geopolitics_prime/56897
Since January 2025 to now: from 108.37 to 97.71 in September.
Consequences: “higher inflation, bigger trade deficit, less confidence in the $.”
Not what he says, see only what he does.
MASF
Make America Small Forever
Posted by: Naive | Sep 25 2025 0:35 utc | 144
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 0:29 utc | 140 & 141
I completely agree with you. Thanks!
Posted by: Naive | Sep 25 2025 0:38 utc | 145
Posted by: Newbie | Sep 25 2025 0:34 utc | 142
There’s no such thing as full on stealth, plenty of article son that. The F-35’s problem is that the body of the plane had to be made too fat to hide the bombs and missiles for stealth purposes. It is slow, short range, has enormous need for frequent servicing taking up much time, and a track record of crashes. There was too much compromise in its design as well in order for it to suit a multi-functional role for more than one independent force of US military although there are several models.
The US has been very reluctant to put it in a theatre of war where it could be up against an SU-57. I think that is probably why we’ve not seen any in Ukraine and even in an airshow in India earlier this year they avoided doing an air display of what it could do compared to Russian 5 generation fighter that put on a masterful display. It’s why I think Trump has moved on to developing a 6th generation fighter with Boeing of all people. I wonder if that would even make any difference given how the MIC works in the US.
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 0:48 utc | 146
Think about the impact of President Trump’s social media post on ordinary Ukrainians — including the ones on the front lines. The President says that Russia is weak and the Ukrainians can win! Great for Ukrainian morale … except that all those Ukrainians outside Zelensky’s charmed circle know that they are losing. They are dying, and the Russians are advancing.
But the President said that the Ukrainians could & should be winning. The obvious message that ordinary Ukrainians will absorb is that Zelensky is incompetent and is letting them down. Smart move by President Trump to plant the seed of doubt in Ukrainian minds.
Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Sep 25 2025 0:51 utc | 147
*** My take is that Trump really is quite deeply racist. ***
Posted by: watcher | Sep 24 2025 21:18 utc | 109
I don’t understand this fetish – I mean, other than wokeism is US Marxism trading in hierarchy redistribution. This all ends up like a discussion about what would happen if a sports team made the trade you want – or what real estate swaps will be good enough for Pution to sign a peace deal. It’s all such a waste of time I don’t understand how this who is racist and how much doesn’t make people too bored to care.
Posted by: frithguild | Sep 25 2025 0:52 utc | 148
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 24 2025 23:38 utc | 134
The insecurity of white folks in the West is delicious considering how much violence and oppression they have visited on the Global South for centuries.
Since 1492, those are more than 5 centuries, yes, plundering, massacring and genociding. Everywhere when resistance was met. Otherwise enslaving too.
White folks are brainwashed: “democracy”, “superiority”, “civilisation”, etc. Merchant and spectacular society. Alienation. Cf. Guy Debord.
Definitions (part of the brainwashing):
Democracy: a country where the president is approved by less of 20% of his population.
Dictatorship: a country where the president is approved by more than 70 % of his population.
By the way, the worst antisemites are the khazars: they mass-murder Palestinians.
And they have no god, because they believe they are gods.
Posted by: Naive | Sep 25 2025 0:54 utc | 149
grunzt @124: “Now this latest tweet by Trump (see #6 of this thread) encourages Europe on its delusional and expensive path by portraying their goal (have Ukraine win decisively over Russia) as realistic. He prevents them from waking up, right at a time when there would be a chance to wake up, given the facts on the ground.”
First of all, you are not one of the ones I would call a TDS victim. You actually appear to be sentient.
Second of all, and be honest with yourself here since I pose the question as a simple rhetorical device, would the Eurocrats really call off the war if Trump openly ridiculed them instead of basically saying “You got this, bro! Good luck!”
By the way, Simplicius is reporting that many Ukrainians are in despair over Trump’s words since they see it as I do: That Trump, far from voicing support, is moving closer to being able to keep the Ukraine cut off from the US taxpayer teat.
The Eurocrats are not going to “wake up” regardless of what Trump says. Every last one of them fancies themselves smarter and more sophisticated than Trump so they pay no attention to what Trump says (kinda like they do with Putin), but not a single one of them actually is smarter than Trump (and Trump is no super-genius).
Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 25 2025 0:54 utc | 150
Posted by: Naive | Sep 25 2025 0:38 utc | 144
Having said all that I still support the average American who can see all of this and want to see change for the better. He’s taking advantage of some very very good people that deserve better, not to be treated like useful idiots for elite American’s sake. Same for many leaders in the West who have abandoned their people and are just stooges for wealthy and elite interest groups and causes like extreme Zionism.
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 0:55 utc | 151
Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Sep 25 2025 0:51 utc | 146
Trump’s hopium is cheap, that’s all he offered Zelensky and NATO. He may have just as well told them to use magical spells to win the war.
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 1:00 utc | 152
Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Sep 25 2025 0:51 utc | 146
The Ukrainians are not so stupid as to have being waiting for Trump to understand that the penis piano player is completely corrupt and a criminal of the worst kind.
Posted by: Naive | Sep 25 2025 1:04 utc | 153
Republicofscotland | Sep 24 2025 13:56 utc | 27
*** “Roger that,” – Radoslaw Sikorski, Foreign Minister of Poland, responding to President Trump’s order for NATO to shoot down Russian aircrafts in NATO airspace.” ***
If that had been a response from anyone even half-sane (rather than Silorski) it could be taken as ambiguous.
Posted by: Cynic | Sep 25 2025 1:05 utc | 154
It’s all such a waste of time I don’t understand how this who is racist and how much doesn’t make people too bored to care.
Posted by: frithguild | Sep 25 2025 0:52 utc | 147
Yes, it is exactly what the racists think. Hate is not important, right?
Posted by: Naive | Sep 25 2025 1:05 utc | 155
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 0:55 utc | 150
The problem is that without an organisation, it will lead to nowhere.
Posted by: Naive | Sep 25 2025 1:08 utc | 156
“Hate is not important, right?”
Not to you, at least where your hate is concerned.
Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 25 2025 1:11 utc | 157
Not to you, at least where your hate is concerned.
Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 25 2025 1:11 utc | 156
Strawman fallacy and you fell again for it. IQ = 73, so no reason to hate you or Trump. In fact it is sad, but funny in a way.
Posted by: Naive | Sep 25 2025 1:16 utc | 158
Yes, it is exactly what the racists think. Hate is not important, right?
Posted by: Naive | Sep 25 2025 1:05 utc | 154
Good point. My choice of words was unfortunate right there. Apologies. However, I’m not going to spend much time chasing the Flying Dutchman.
Posted by: frithguild | Sep 25 2025 1:16 utc | 159
Posted by: Naive | Sep 25 2025 1:08 utc | 155
That’s why they are trying to destroy the Left since traditionally it is the Left that bands together in a flat model as formerly said to be ‘liberty fraternity and equality’ to manifest their cause. That’s what we have always seen behind social, industrial, and political change to make the world a fairer place, even if it has sometimes driven revolutions that were not always successful in the form of governance that followed.
I’m not talking loopy left as we see now that is confused and lost touch with its purpose and more concerned with superficial issues.
They want to get rid of the genuine Left because it means the rich elites would have to share more of their wealth and power. Can’t have that. That’s why when someone like Charlie Kirk gets assassinated they then decide it is a great idea to blame Antifa or the so called trump invention of “radical Left”. What an opportunity, even though they have no proof that it was even involved.
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 1:25 utc | 160
Posted by: frithguild | Sep 25 2025 1:16 utc | 158
No problem.
Please, have a look here if you do not know already that banknote story.
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ftsa&q=banknote+with+black+woman+trump&ia=web
Or that one:
And Obama is not even black.
Typical low IQ hater and racist.
Posted by: Naive | Sep 25 2025 1:28 utc | 161
This is Trump punking the EU…..so you folks have the big talk, well lets see how you do against the RF AF….just try and shoot down so RF aircraft….I dare you….
Its a safe bet……the EU has no nuts…..and the US will not fly cover for them either…….
Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 25 2025 1:29 utc | 162
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 24 2025 23:26 utc | 133
RE: “Obviously the European partners of NATO and the legacy media which supports the European partners of NATO love to hear DJT trash-talk the “paper tiger” and boost Zelensky.
But such rhetoric has no currency on the LOC.”
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Bear in mind, too, that DJT has not worsened matters relative to the SMO. The escalations that have happened during the time of his 2nd-term presidency, such as they are, have not in any way elevated the war to new levels or led matters to irreversible heights.
Russia has remained the fixed point of the compass, holding steady, while chaotic rhetoric from DJT and from Ukraine's supporters sweeps wildly hither & yon on out-of-alignment rotational arcs, as if to free itself from the basic mechanism that directs the purpose of the compass.
Try to subvert geometry.
Helter/skelter pronouncements on social media, no matter how loud or earnest, are not altering Russia's calculus.
Russia seems to have Trump-proofed itself.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 25 2025 1:31 utc | 163
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 1:25 utc | 159
In France it is the so-called “left” which destroyed the possibility for the left to rule the country. Further, individualism coupled with alienation is annihilating any chance.
See here: https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/09/ukraine-open-thread-2025-222/comment-page-2/#comment-1195475
Trade-unions: 10% of the workers. RNA injections: more than 92% of the adults.
Typical whining: we can do nothing. On the other side: if necessary the military will be used.
Posted by: Naive | Sep 25 2025 1:43 utc | 164
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 25 2025 1:31 utc | 162 “Russia seems to have Trump-proofed itself.”
Trump-proofed or not… how bad is the damage to the oil and gas infrastructure in Russia? I see some places saying its bad and others saying its nothing.
What is the MOA consensus?
Posted by: ed4 | Sep 25 2025 1:50 utc | 165
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 0:48 utc | 145 “Slow, short range, etc.” “SU-57”
Tell that to the Iranians. We where assured here at MOA over the years that Russia saw everything flying in the Middle East and that the Russian SAMs Iran had would shot everything down.
And then find an SU-57 for it go up against. After all how many SU-57’s have been built? How many F-35s? As to a dogfight you may be right, but likely it would be a BVR engagement. So how stealthy is the SU-57?
The F-35’s have had plenty of problems and is very expensive, but they worked pretty well in the 12 day war between Israel and Iran.
Posted by: ed4 | Sep 25 2025 2:01 utc | 166
Posted by: ed4 | Sep 25 2025 1:50 utc | 164
Trump-proofed or not… how bad is the damage to the oil and gas infrastructure in Russia? I see some places saying its bad and others saying its nothing.
What is the MOA consensus?
What the blazes does it matter what we think? We cannot repair the refineries or shoot down the drones.
What does matter is whether the damage to RF oil supplies has been sufficient to stop the capture(by RF) of Kupiansk and other fortified cites in East Donetsk- ie Kramatorsk, Pokrovsk etc.
I reckon that so far these attacks have had bugger all impact on the overall Russian progress.
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Posted by: Barrel Brown | Sep 25 2025 2:14 utc | 167
Posted by: grunzt | Sep 24 2025 22:27 utc | 124
“therefore I need to know who is around Trump and fills him with that bullshit that he posted – about the military and economic situation in Russia.”
I too wonder who is advising Trump and how accurate is the Intel that he is being given. In his first term he had subordinates actively trying to sabotage his agenda and set him up for impeachment or imprisonment. I was hoping he would have more loyal team members this time, but am still unsure. The other thing to consider when thinking about Trump’s effectiveness is we don’t know for sure what his goals are. If it’s to bring about world peace then he’s failing; if it’s to separate Europe from Russia and secure it as an American market then he appears to be on track. This hasn’t played out as I expected. I’m still hoping that things might change, but I’m not holding my breath.
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 25 2025 2:45 utc | 168
*** Trump-proofed or not… how bad is the damage to the oil and gas infrastructure in Russia? ***
Posted by: ed4 | Sep 25 2025 1:50 utc | 164
Gasoline in short supply ant the end of vacation season is predictably recurrent. So what you may be seeing is similar to the MSM hyping up global warming during a hot week in the summer.
Regardless, gasoline doesnt matter. Diesel matters.
Posted by: frithguild | Sep 25 2025 2:47 utc | 169
Posted by: Naive | Sep 25 2025 1:43 utc | 163
France has not been ruined by the Left, it has been ruined in recent years by the pointless war against Russia with military help for Ukraine and bullshit leadership from a man who said he was centre-Left but actually is a banking representative of the globalist Right.
In any case this is France that perhaps needs some Right balance, but not the US which needs the Left more than ever. Right is just doing more of what Trump and his elitist friends do while they take you further towards neo-feudalism and being enslaved by rent-seeking corporations that honor the system of elites at the top and workers on the bottom rung.
Your industries have declined because your corporations went offshore to source cheap labour in the Global South for huge $$$ profits. So your US industries died out and now face losing the technological edge. And so the Global South is blamed for it since it has always been the whipping boy.
The fact that you say “we can do nothing” declares exactly what your Right wing elites want. Doing nothing won’t fix anything and just leads to apathy. That’s if I read you correctly in that this is your actual point of view. Apathy pretty much follows victimhood which is what Trump always pleads. Those that suffer from victimhood cannot do anything about their situation because everyone else causes their problems so they cannot fix them. It’s why Trump blames everyone else for the US’s current situation.
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 2:53 utc | 170
Posted by: ed4 | Sep 25 2025 2:01 utc | 165
The recent short US led war against Iran to support Israel with the latter’s help was fakery that did not fulfil all the claims Trump made in the least. Iran claims to have shot down 3 to 5 Israeli F-35s in that effort. But I’m sure you will say they are lying unlike Trump. I have not seen any dogfight between and F-35 and a Su-57, and I don’t think the US is going to risk it. We have F-35s in Australia too unfortunately, and there have been many articles about their shortfalls, even from the US Airforce itself. Here’s just one: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2021/02/23/the-us-air-force-just-admitted-the-f-35-stealth-fighter-has-failed/
And another analysis: https://www.pogo.org/analysis/has-the-pentagon-learned-from-the-f-35-debacle
And one from Australia: https://michaelwest.com.au/king-of-lemons-australia-swindled-by-lockheed-martin-and-its-joint-strike-fighter/
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 3:06 utc | 171
“The F-35’s have had plenty of problems and is very expensive, but they worked pretty well in the 12 day war between Israel and Iran.”
Posted by: ed4 | Sep 25 2025 2:01 utc | 165
Iran claims to have shot down 3 to 5 Israeli F-35s in that short war.
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 3:08 utc | 172
@ ed4 | Sep 25 2025 2:01 utc | 165
@ George | Sep 25 2025 3:08 utc | 170
OSINT evidence suggest neither Israel operated F-35 over Iranian land, nor Iran shot down any F-35s.
Posted by: boneless | Sep 25 2025 3:14 utc | 173
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 25 2025 2:45 utc | 167
The trouble is that Trump fires, threatens, or sues anyone who tells him the truth if it doesn’t suit his chosen point of view or agenda. That is what he is best at doing given he has done that most of his life to become a wealthy businessman. “You’re fired”.
So I conclude that people have become fearful around him and just tell him what they think he wants them to say and that feathers their own nests and protects their jobs as well. It’s become the culture around him. Same for the media that supports him and their gaslighting journalists.
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 3:20 utc | 174
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 0:29 utc | 140
“In some ways even worse since he has no conscience in promoting his own business interests for profits as well.”
How many millions did the Biden Crime Syndicate rake in from China, Ukraine, etc. with “10 percent for the Big Guy?” It’s on Hunter’s laptop if you’d care to do a little research.
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 25 2025 3:21 utc | 175
W/r/t the Iran discussion, Israel did most of the early damage using quadcopters deep within Iranian territory, similar to the attack Ukraine pulled on Russia some months ago, but targeting AA infrastructure. That plus coordinated sabotage by an internal fifth column disrupted Iran’s anti-aircraft capabilities. You don’t need a stealth bomber at that point, or anything too fancy. They could have hit targets in Iran with V2 rockets.
Posted by: fnord | Sep 25 2025 3:21 utc | 176
“Other organizations including Bellingcat, offer training as well other options for OSINT practitioners to associate and exchange information on OSINT best practices and issues.” Bellingcat? What? They are the ones that led the charge of blaming Russia for MH17. From what I remember they even get some funding from NED. “Bellingcat has received funding from the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), a US government-funded non-profit organization established in 1983 to promote democracy abroad.
The NED has provided grants to Bellingcat since at least 2017”. I suggest you listen to Brian Berletic on that.
The OSINT Foundation is a professional association for OSINT practitioners in the United States Intelligence Community.[27] It is open to U.S. Citizens and seeks to raise the prominence of the open-source intelligence discipline.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_intelligence
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 3:32 utc | 177
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 25 2025 3:21 utc | 173
Because Biden and his son were rotten does not justify Trump doing the same, especially when he claimed he would ‘drain the swamp’. I don’t see either Democrats or Republicans anything other than the same rotten monoparty holding hands in the swamp anyway. I’m not trying to prove Democrats are better than Republicans or Biden is better than Trump. That is your invention.
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 3:37 utc | 178
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 25 2025 3:21 utc | 173
Yeah, of course. But with Trump and his family we’re talking BILLIONS.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 25 2025 3:37 utc | 179
Posted by: Naive | Sep 25 2025 1:28 utc | 160
“And Obama is not even black.”
Bill Clinton is the first black president (according to Toni Morrison) and you say Barack Obama isn’t really black? Aren’t you the one who just accused William Gruff of having an IQ of 73, and you can’t figure out who’s black? What a racist you are! (Or low IQ)
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 25 2025 3:42 utc | 180
This is Trump punking the EU…..so you folks have the big talk, well lets see how you do against the RF AF….just try and shoot down so RF aircraft….I dare you….
Its a safe bet……the EU has no nuts…..and the US will not fly cover for them either…….
Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 25 2025 1:29 utc | 161
You are likely right. Trump is better at doing 360 degree turns than Annalena Charlotte Alma Baerbock.
Makes people dizzy.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 25 2025 4:02 utc | 181
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 25 2025 4:02 utc | 179
A whirling dervish:
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 4:15 utc | 182
“King of Lemons: Australia swindled by Lockheed Martin and its Joint Strike Fighter”
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 4:19 utc | 183
JN: Scott Ritter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MT_n9oW1iQ
“How close is doomsday?”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 25 2025 4:22 utc | 184
@ Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 24 2025 11:45 utc | 13
Can you ever post without trying the left/right narrative enforcement? You know it doesn’t play around this bar so why try?
At least do me a personal favour if you want to engage with me – leave it at the door please.
Anyway he did seem pretty proud about the ‘Abraham Accords’. Something that his son in law has been prepping his future presidency with. It’s a dead cert that a dead Drumpff would lead to that turds elevation.
NB Looks like the site has settled down already well done to b and any helpers that have made the transition painless. I have a post I didn’t get around to yesterday on victory/defeat.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 24 2025 13:20 utc | 22
Speak for yourself, you limey bastard. Gruff is well loved by the materialists of the bar. Don’t forget it, you miserable old coger! He keeps the crypto royalist set, like you, in you’re fucking place.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 25 2025 5:28 utc | 185
B has not yet implemented the filter to keep out CIA trolls and provocateurs.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 24 2025 20:39 utc | 99
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Any filters will need to be trained and that takes time.
Filtration is one of the most difficult aspects of running a website.
Posted by: too scents | Sep 25 2025 5:39 utc | 186
I find Izvestia’s English site a better source than RT for domestic Russian news. If you have translation software, there are many Russian language media sites to investigate. Izvestia has this excellent article about the ongoing budget discussions for 2026 and beyond. You might find this Wiki page helpful for your explorations.
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 24 2025 21:59 utc | 119
Just a note:
Almost every browser translates any language online into their own.
Not always 100% accurate, but it’s always sufficient for reading the content.
Even Telegram channels opened in the browser are translated. DO NOT use Telegram for Windows for this, but rather the browser itself; I use Chrome.
Test link below…” Right-click to open in a new tab. “When open, right-click to select “Translate.”
Posted by: Genesis | Sep 25 2025 5:53 utc | 187
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 25 2025 5:28 utc | 183
He literally said “do me a personal favor…” and referred only to comments in which Gruff addresses him directly incl. replies to his posts.
That’s about as “speaking for [one’s] self” as possible.
Some of us need a Xanax or something.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 25 2025 5:57 utc | 189
Trump said this: “Russia should have won the war against Ukraine in less than a week if it were a real military power.”
Posted by: Konami | Sep 24 2025 20:15 utc | 95
***********
“if” – Trump infers that because Russia did not win in week then it is not ‘a real military power’.
Surely the converse holds – if EU/NATO/US did not defeat an entity that is not a real military power in a week, can we legitimately conclude that none of these, or all combined, are ‘real military powers’?
Posted by: General Factotum | Sep 25 2025 6:43 utc | 190
“if” – Trump infers that because Russia did not win in week then it is not ‘a real military power’.
Surely the converse holds – if EU/NATO/US did not defeat an entity that is not a real military power in a week, can we legitimately conclude that none of these, or all combined, are ‘real military powers’?
Posted by: General Factotum | Sep 25 2025 6:43 utc | 190
No no no. A real military power would have carpet bombed wedding parties and the like, and then declared victory after a week. To leave defeated about 20 years later. As the US did recently in Afghanistan. No one would suggest that the US is not a real military power. After all everybody might want to attend wedding parties. Or go fishing – ask the Venezuelan fishermen who the mighty US Navy is currently murdering.
Posted by: Martina | Sep 25 2025 7:32 utc | 191
And that means Indian call centres to you. Holy crap, you are stupid.
Posted by: Nobody Special | Sep 24 2025 17:46 utc | 68
Don’t be modest, I like the cut of your jib.
Reminds me scam operations in the Philippines that was turned in by the (Christians) workers who were dismayed at the unethical and illegal actions.
https://immigration.gov.ph/israeli-scam-duo-arrested-by-bi-fsu/
Posted by: Suresh | Sep 25 2025 7:45 utc | 192
@ grunzt 125.
i always appreciate your thoughtful posts..
i too share frithguilds commentary to you.. one is best ignoring trump though..otherwise one feels like they are part of a three ring circus.. this is probably a good descrption of the western world in 2025…
Posted by: james | Sep 25 2025 7:54 utc | 193
Posted by: ed4 | Sep 25 2025 1:50 utc | 165
RE: how bad is the damage to oil/gas facilities in Russia-?
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Stanislav Krapivnik is a useful resource for these insights, and the gents at The Duran feature him each month.
See in particular "Russia fuel shortages explained w/ Stanislav Krapivnik" on The Duran's youtube channel. The interview, posted 3 weeks ago when the topic of fuel depot *hits* first arose, bathes the MSM's typical misdirections in a clarifying light.
Krapivnik reports from just outside Moscow and has worked extensively in the Russian energy sector.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 25 2025 8:25 utc | 194
Resident
Our sources reported in August that the negotiations on guarantees security are reduced to a financial component, first of all, Zelensky wants to close the hole in Ukraine’s budget and provide resources to the Armed Forces. The President’s Office stated a month ago that the security guarantees are almost agreed upon, but in reality, the issue is stuck on the timing of financial support, according to sources, Yermak demands constant funding for at least 5 years, and the amount exceeds 100 billion euros.Finnish President Stubb has stated that the military component of Ukraine’s security guarantees is being developed and is almost ready.
According to him, the main responsibility for security guarantees will lie with Ukraine and the Ukrainian army, which will be supported by Europe.
I saw a photo of the little turd in platform soles happily shaking our glorious pm’s hand at the UN. I wonder what Albo has given him now.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 25 2025 8:54 utc | 195
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 25 2025 8:54 utc | 195
Albo is such a disappointment, Marles is even worse. Anything to appease the US, UK, and NATO.
Posted by: George | Sep 25 2025 9:03 utc | 196
Trump-proofed or not… how bad is the damage to the oil and gas infrastructure in Russia? I see some places saying its bad and others saying its nothing.
Posted by: ed4 | Sep 25 2025 1:50 utc | 165
The damage is probably more than officially admitted, but far less than Ukro suporters claim (they claim entire refineries are destroyed after a small payload drone strikes, when it’s often a piece of changeable pipe or a single component like a pump that is changed after fire goes out).
Either way there are no notable fuel shortages in most of Russia. There are however more-than-notable fuel shortages all across Ukraine.
EU does not have very good oil refining capacity either, and their fuel is relatively much more expensive. Furthermore, any fuel donated to Ukraine through EU is mostly Russian oil, refined in India with hefty premium price.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 25 2025 9:42 utc | 197
George | Sep 25 2025 9:03 utc | 196
Any Australian government that does not declassify and make public the secret agreement with Ukraine on MH17 is just as guilty of shooting it down as the Abbot government. There was a write up on it at the time in the Ukroid media like getting that agreement was a great victory. An Australian barrister – ONeill wrote to the Australian government asking about it. He recieved a written reply from the government stating the agreement was classified.
It certainly exists.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 25 2025 9:44 utc | 198
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 25 2025 8:54 utc | 195
Finnish President Stubb has stated that the military component of Ukraine’s security guarantees is being developed and is almost ready.
According to him, the main responsibility for security guarantees will lie with Ukraine and the
Ukrainian army, which will be supported by Europe.
That’s funny. According to Finnish president Stubb, security guarantees to Ukraine are to be provided by the losing participant of the war, the Ukrainian army.
Hopefully Russia gets border with Romania and we can get the collapse of this EU freak show on the road.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 25 2025 9:46 utc | 199
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 25 2025 0:22 utc | 140
Thanks Peter,
That is how I understood things, which leads me to believe there must have been a team in situ to pilot the FPV’s from the naval drones.
Posted by: Orson Cart | Sep 25 2025 9:48 utc | 200