Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 22 2025 7:09 utc | 100
“And what the actual fuck does that have anything to do with the proxy war in Ukraine?”
I think that one started because of my comment: Posted by: George | Sep 22 2025 1:05 utc | 62

Posted by: George | Sep 22 2025 7:48 utc | 104

And yet he’s being allowed to collapse America, militarily and economically.
I think that is weird.
At some point, the plans for continuity surely require economic and kinetic power.
Your thoughts?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 22 2025 6:39 utc | 96
The collapse started when President Nixon and Kissinger made the great China pivot. Once the industrial base gone US was maintaining economic power via debt and military power to maintain dollar hegemony. Ukraine smo exposed the limit to US power against combined Russia China and the rest alliance.That is why the rush to break up Russia which failed. So next best thing hand over the baton for a controlled exit from the global stage, kind of like USSR and hope to rebuild again.
Europeans refusing to accept the reality.

Posted by: Michael J | Sep 22 2025 8:32 utc | 106

Looks like Macaron got the perfect guy for Ukr and maybe more. In his first speech said that Russia is a threat to “our country and our continent” and “we need to take the lives of our opponents”
Posted by: rk | Sep 22 2025 8:39 utc | 107

To paraphrase psycohistorian: the gaslighting continues until it doesn’t.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Sep 22 2025 8:46 utc | 108

I hear the people actually repeating MSM propaganda, accepting it. They say Russia is bad, Ukraine is good, specially the educated scum I worked with all my life.
That is why I think that they would accept going to war with Russia.
Posted by: vargas | Sep 22 2025 8:47 utc | 109
Well, my experience is that the opinion of the majority does not attract media attention. The coronavirus measures did not meet with broad approval among the population either.
Accordingly, a lot can be achieved in Europe. It becomes problematic when the commitment of citizens is needed.
How many of your acquaintances are planning to go to the front? Why are they waiting at all?

Posted by: BlindSpot | Sep 22 2025 9:05 utc | 110

I hear the people actually repeating MSM propaganda, accepting it. They say Russia is bad, Ukraine is good, specially the educated scum I worked with all my life.
That is why I think that they would accept going to war with Russia.
Posted by: vargas | Sep 22 2025 8:47 utc | 109
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Of course they’d accept it, especially if there were an ocean between them.
And because, to this day, no one has told them the enemy’s strengths.
In the USA, throughout the West, the tone is still “Russia is lagging behind,” especially when it comes to weapons technology.
No one tells them that the tide has long since turned, that Russia has long since surpassed the entire West in terms of weapons technology.
AND…. EVERYONE assumes that Russia would never dare to use nuclear weapons, even though THE WEST is so far ahead in nuclear weapons technology and far ahead of the stupid Russians, whose missiles can be intercepted 90% of the time.
No joke… seek out a conversation on this topic and you’ll hear arguments like this.
My opinion:
For whatever reason, Trump has slowly realized that America has missed the boat when it comes to nuclear weapons, AND also when it comes to defense against them.
But he and his team can’t admit that to either his vassals or his own people.
Their predominance, their supposed supremacy in the world, would end immediately!
But it could be the reason why Trump practically cowers in the face of Putin and the use of threats against Putin, which are NEVER followed by actions that could provoke too much.
Should Putin or one of his successors give in to the pressure from the hardliners in the Kremlin or have to give in and launch a deterrent strike…we’ll see who cowers and comes up with excuses for why they DON’T react.
Once again for the idiots: Russia has a better chance of survival simply because of its size. THE WEST wouldn’t have enough nuclear weapons, which wouldn’t be intercepted, to make this huge country 100% uninhabitable. Conversely, three Satans with 32 hypersonic missiles on board, each carrying 16 autonomous warheads…autonomously navigating!!
The West has nothing even remotely comparable, and this Satan is almost impossible to intercept.
You here and the “average person” on the street are apparently unaware of this, or you repress it because it’s unimaginable for YOU.
You too have been raised with it from birth…”WE ARE BETTER THAN THE RUSSIANS” because that’s exactly what was thrown in your face from the very first breath of your life.
Question
So who is gambling with their existence in case of an emergency? Who will still be able to enjoy their wealth on their yacht? The billionaire in Florida, who will no longer exist, whose deepest bunker is not safe thanks to Hazelnut.

Posted by: Genesis | Sep 22 2025 9:23 utc | 112

They will go for forced conscription.
Germany going to change constitution in order to fulfill army requirements is a clear example.
Posted by: Mario | Sep 22 2025 9:20 utc | 111
Forced conscription is also a conscription.
They will not rebel. That is the most important.
Once when in the trenches they will have to fight Russians. We know in 1918. the war was not popular, yet the soldiers fought and died. The rulers do not care if they wanted to participate or not.
What I am talking about is an inability to rebel in the current Europe. What we see in France is nothing. Modern and well-armed police can easily deal with that.
We, in Europe are doomed as we are unable to rebel.
Maybe all white men are domesticated and neutered already.

Posted by: vargas | Sep 22 2025 10:10 utc | 114

Jesus and vargas being the stars here now? Good Lord.
However. I think – but can’t link to any sources and have really no idea, but still think – that Russian airplanes, even military, have flewn over the Baltic for ages but Western powers have recently gone berserk and cry and scream like hell about it. In other words, the difference is not altered Russian practice but escalated Western hysteria.
I think – but etc. – that this is a serious step towards WWIII and that UK and possibly Germany and/or France are the “brains” behind it.
Anyone in the know?

Posted by: Avtonom | Sep 22 2025 10:32 utc | 116

Posted by: vargas | Sep 22 2025 10:10 utc | 114
Forced conscription is not the same than your supposed ‘European will join because of planted russophobia’ .
I would not guess on not rebelling, most if not all those that speak about Russia bad Ukraine good do that in the comfort of their houses and keyboards, some, when challenged, will tell you that they’re not going because war will be fought by ‘professional’ soldiers.

Posted by: Mario | Sep 22 2025 10:53 utc | 118

That is why I think that they would accept going to war with Russia.
Posted by: vargas | Sep 22 2025 8:47 utc | 109
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Correction: That’s why they would accept others going to war with Russia.

Posted by: scc | Sep 22 2025 11:33 utc | 120

Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 18:07 utc | 20
” there is no means by which this can revert back to a well-oiled manufacturing economy capable of turning out hundreds of tanks a month or thousands of mortar shells a week”
A long time since this was written in 1958. The grandchildren have forgotten manufacturing life:
Though you couldn’t grumble at four-and-six a hundred the ratechecker sometimes came and watched you work, so that if he saw you knock up a hundred in less than an hour Robboe would come and tell you one fine morning that your rate had been dropped by sixpence or a bob. So when you felt the shadow of the rate-checker breathing down your neck you knew what to do if you had any brains at all: make every move more complicated, though not slow because that was cutting your own throat, and do everything deliberately yet with a crafty show of speed. Though cursed as public enemy number one the rate-checker was an innocuous-looking man who carried a slight stoop everywhere he went and wore spectacles, smoking the same fags as you were smoking, and protecting his blue pinstriped suit with a brown staff-overall, bald as a mushroom and as sly as a
fox. They said he got commission on what reductions he recommended, but that was only a rumour, Arthur decided, something said out of rancour if you had just been done down for a bob. If you saw the rate-checker on your way home from work he
might say good evening to you, and you responded to this according to whether or not your rate had been tampered with lately. Arthur always returned such signs with affability, for whenever the ratechecker stood behind him he switched his speed down to a normal hundred, though once he had averaged four hundred when late on his daily stint. He worked out for fun how high his wages would be if, like a madman, he pursued this cramp-inducing, back-breaking, knuckle-knocking undiplomatic speed of four hundred for a week, and his calculations on the Daily Mirror margins gave an answer of
thirty-six pounds. Which would never do, he swore to himself, because they’d be down on me like a ton of bricks, and the next week I’d be grabbing at the same flat-out lick for next to nowt. So he settled for a comfortable wage of fourteen pounds. Anything bigger than that would be like shovelling hard-earned money into the big windows of the income-tax office — feeding pigs on cherries, as mam used to say — which is something else against my principles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_and_Sunday_Morning

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 22 2025 11:58 utc | 122

Posted by: George | Sep 22 2025 5:25 utc | 86
“If he was an Essene he certainly would have been connected with people living in a commune near the Dead Sea. That’s all I alluded to.”
There’s never been any evidence, from the Bible or from contemporaneous writings, that Jesus had any connection to the Essenes. His cousin, John the Baptist, did live with the Essenes. As I said to LoveDonbass, you should stick with what you know.

Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 22 2025 12:11 utc | 124

@32
I’m sure the people of Europe cannot wait to go to war against Russia in support of the very globalists who flood their countries with migrants.

Posted by: Fred777 | Sep 22 2025 12:44 utc | 126

you should stick with what you know.
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 22 2025 12:11 utc | 124

If you stick with what you know … well then there’s not much religion left
(quietly reaching for the door)

Posted by: Avtonom | Sep 22 2025 13:30 utc | 128

In the USA, throughout the West, the tone is still “Russia is lagging behind,” especially when it comes to weapons technology.
Posted by: Genesis | Sep 22 2025 9:23 utc | 112
To be fair, there is (or was in 2022) some truth to it.
Best example: guided glide-bombs
But the Russians are closing the gap there. In numbers and in accuracy.
Posted by: NoName | Sep 22 2025 10:58 utc | 119
Why are you stopping with glide bombs? (By the way, the West didn’t have them until 2024, so they’re replicas.)
Go on.
1) Hypersonic missiles
2) Then these hybrid hypersonic cruise missiles
3) TOS flamethrowers (described by the West as the most terrible weapon after the atomic bomb)
4) A-torpedoes that could, for example, destroy England with artificial tossing.
5) Nuclear submarines that the West can’t locate. The excitement at the aircraft carrier, the excitement because the Russian surfaced in the middle of a group WITHOUT the Americans noticing it beforehand.
The submarine visit to Cuba, where all the powers were looking for the announced submarine, didn’t find it on the way there.
6) Hazelnut…NO command bunker, no matter how deep, is safe anymore!
7) Nuclear-powered cruise missile with unlimited duration and range. The Western media briefly mentioned that the Russians were testing it, but then not a word about why?
Tass reported that the testing was successfully completed and NATO was informed in advance of the missile’s launch.
After more than 8,000 km, the flight was aborted for safety reasons.
7) The SU-57 series is a jet that can fly with its own drone, a fully armed drone. It was proven over Ukraine that the system works, although it isn’t 100% functional yet. As a threatened country, I wouldn’t disclose how far the development is.
8) Munitions production: how many times more munitions does Russia produce in a month than the West in a year?
9) Alleged fuel shortage. Well, in an emergency, Germany would have two larger refineries.
Poland has two large crude oil refineries: the Płock refinery and the Gdańsk refinery.
France originally had twelve oil refineries, but according to the International Energy Agency (IEA) (as of 2022), there are currently seven active refineries.
Spain had a total of 11 oil refineries in 2023.
Italy currently has no refineries (as of September 2025).
So, approximately 17 refineries in Western Europe. Conclusion: 17 hypersonic refineries.
Russia has 14 larger ones, is currently building another 15, and 84 smaller refineries, plus six military refineries that produce special kerosene fuels and fuels for the space program.
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Uh, should I continue…with satellite and tank/drone production compared to Europe, including the USA?
Better not…
Technological advancement isn’t always Netflix and…!
Throughout the West, research is primarily about generating dividends, which means I, as a company, can get long-term contracts.
None of this is an issue with Russian or Chinese weapons research; it’s BETTER than the enemy, more reliable and maintenance-

Posted by: Genesis | Sep 22 2025 13:43 utc | 130

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 22 2025 5:35 utc | 88
“LOL bro you’re shedding credibility faster than the Israeli attack boats launching torpedoes at the USS Liberty”
I don’t need to worry about credibility with you. Last time we were discussing the Bible you were mixing up Old Testament events with New Testament events. Current political events are subjective and changing dramatically as they unfold. We won’t have a clear picture of current situation for a few years. Hindsight is still 20/20.

Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 22 2025 13:48 utc | 132

Thought for the afternoon: central banks buying gold is inflationary, because the “money” to buy it with is created at the point of sale. The credit to the bullion bank account is an asset which then charges off into the economy as new lending.
Is there a desperation on the part of some countries to create new wealth (Poland is a big, big buyer at the moment) or just to inflate the existing debt away?
I freely admit to being baffled by the gold market, (and all the others, to be fair). Nothing makes sense any more, but the record gold price is probably only because I sold some just before this latest ramp up. You may thank me.

Posted by: Occasional poster | Sep 22 2025 13:54 utc | 134

Posted by: Oui | Sep 22 2025 7:07 utc | 99
“Ask AI (lazy you) about the Trinity 😂”
I’d love to see you explain the finer points of the Trinity; I haven’t had a good laugh yet this morning. While you’re at it, how about you tell us how a photon can be an energy wave without mass, and at the same time it acts like a particle displaying what appears to be inertial mass. That should keep you busy for a few minutes, or do you already have that figured out?

Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 22 2025 14:03 utc | 136

vargas@114…..not all rebellions require gunpowder and lead…..every individual has rebellion right in their pocket, all those fake metal coins still have power……it requires discipline to use that power……
……turn off your social media devices, dress for the weather, take a nice relaxing walk to a quiet park, sit down and think of ways to counter the “economic world” (there’s your power, x millions)…..and if you have a dog or meet one on the way, stop to pet it…..
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 22 2025 13:47 utc | 131
That’s right.
People usually aren’t interested in all of this. They’re interested in how to pay rent, energy, and food, so they usually have to take on a second job that was once used to finance hobbies or vacations.
Today, protest demonstrations are taking place here, and YES, here too, it’s just a substitute for resistance.
Even worse on TikTok, and then the sofa demonstrator sits, types his comment(s) into the keyboard, goes tired to bed with the thought, “I gave it back to them,” and with that, his resistance activity is over.
As the German Interior Minister once called on Facebook and Instagram: “Stay at home and demonstrate online,” but for your safety, not on the streets.
And that’s exactly what’s happening, at least in “civilized” Europe. I’d say that about 75% of the dissatisfied are voicing their discontent on social media (which EU Von der Leyen now wants to prosecute). Other parts aren’t interested in it at all, besides earning money and raising a family, and they don’t concern themselves with it.
I’m one of those who experienced 1989 firsthand!
If cell phones or the internet had existed back then, there would NEVER have been a revolution. Perhaps a collapse, but that was more for economic reasons than because of the protests of hundreds of thousands in one city!
Cell phones and the internet would have offered the opportunity to “Let’s see what’s going on… oh, I see… typed a comment, keep it up.”
Getting up and going is so close… never.
Back then, anyone who wanted to know what was going on HAD to go… usually stayed there, and so hundreds of thousands gathered… They went and stayed there.
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That’s right.
People usually aren’t interested in all of this. They’re interested in how to pay rent, energy, and food, so they usually have to take on a second job that was once used to finance hobbies or vacations.
Today, protest demonstrations are taking place here, and YES, here too, it’s just a substitute for resistance.
Even worse on TikTok, and then the sofa demonstrator sits, types his comment(s) into the keyboard, goes tired to bed with the thought, “I gave it back to them,” and with that, his resistance activity is over.
As the German Interior Minister once called on Facebook and Instagram: “Stay at home and demonstrate online,” but for your safety, not on the streets.
And that’s exactly what’s happening, at least in “civilized” Europe. I’d say that about 75% of the dissatisfied are voicing their discontent on social media (which EU Von der Leyen now wants to prosecute). Other parts aren’t interested in it at all, besides earning money and raising a family, and they don’t bother with it.
I’m one of those who experienced 1989 firsthand!
If cell phones or the internet had existed back then, there would NEVER have been a revolution. Perhaps a collapse, but that was more for economic reasons than because of the protests of hundreds of thousands in one city!
Cell phones and the internet would have offered the opportunity to “Let’s see what’s going on… oh, I see… typed a comment, keep it up.”
Getting up and going is so close… never.
Anyone who wanted to know what was going on back then HAD to go… usually stayed there, and so hundreds of thousands gathered… They went and stayed there.
And you only bring the lazy Germans out onto the streets when the supermarket shelves are empty except for what nobody wants or needs.
Only when it comes to food do Germans rebel…the current food prices in Germany are just the beginning.
Have you ever noticed that in the rest of the EU, food prices are sometimes even higher than in Germany, and sometimes for lower incomes.
That’s right, no nation within the EU, from the Greeks to the Spaniards, places as much value on full food shelves as much as the Germans…maybe it’s because of the hunger they experienced after the war, or because a Hungarian, Bulgarian, or Italian has different needs for their own food supply, I don’t know. Across Europe, food is more expensive than in Germany, and even if it is, income is lower.
If you take away the Germans’ food, then you as the government have to be careful. Energy, gasoline, new cars, for example, are at insane prices, it doesn’t really matter.
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As I said, THEY studied the reasons that led to 1989 in detail and quickly isolated the greatest danger… because of solidarity… and successfully eradicated it.

Posted by: Genesis | Sep 22 2025 14:24 utc | 138

Looks like another major war in Europe – will be on the cards at the end of this decade, probably instigated by Germany, oh well, you know what they say, third time lucky.
“Germany has moved to add 100,000 active troops to its army by 2029 in an attempt to meet new NATO targets intended to prepare for a possible war with Russia, according to a report.
It is the year the US-led alliance speculates that Russia could be capable of a large-scale attack on Western allies.
The dramatic deployment of troops would more than double the current number of active-duty German soldiers, which now stands at 62,000, according to the Reuters News Agency.
“It is imperative for the army to become sufficiently ready for war by 2029 and provide the capabilities Germany pledged (to NATO) by 2035,” Army Chief Alfons Mais wrote in a letter dated September 2, addressed to the chief of the defense staff, Carsten Breuer.
He also called for some 10,000 extra troops to bolster territorial defense.
The commander projected that Germany should add another 45,000 active troops by 2035 to meet NATO targets agreed upon at a summit in June and build reserves for a prolonged war, adding that these objectives were impossible with currently approved personnel levels, which also include 37,000 non-active troops.
“According to a first rough estimate, a total of around 460,000 personnel (from Germany) will be necessary, divided into some 260,000 active troops and around 200,000 reservists,” a spokesperson for the Defense Ministry in Berlin said.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 22 2025 14:55 utc | 140

Nach einer ersten groben Schätzung werden insgesamt rund 460.000 Soldaten (aus Deutschland) benötigt, aufgeteilt in rund 260.000 aktive Soldaten und rund 200.000 Reservisten“, sagte ein Sprecher des Verteidigungsministeriums in Berlin.
Gepostet von: Republicofscotland | 22. September 2025 14:55 UTC | 140
Just a note: this number includes all military personnel, from the secretary to the private!
Excerpt:
What does the Two Plus Four Treaty say?
In the “Two Plus Four Treaty,” Germany committed itself to limiting its armed forces to 370,000 troops. Likewise, from then on, German troops belonging to NATO, but no foreign forces, no nuclear weapons, and no nuclear-weapon carriers, were allowed to be stationed on East German territory.
But
Since when has Germany adhered to treaties regarding the military?
370,000 troops are NOT 460,000 according to Adam Ries

Posted by: Genesis | Sep 22 2025 15:17 utc | 142

239…UvdL has said will not agree to USA request for sanctions tariffs etc against China and India….so more likely DT has had his point proven and will walk away. Macron says cannot seize the Russian funds held captive it would upset the international financial rules too much and surely DT and USA economy would be too fragile to take on being included in that risk. Feels like EU has “f****d” up everything.

Posted by: Jo | Sep 22 2025 15:25 utc | 144

Posted by: ThouShalt | Sep 22 2025 7:36 utc | 102
“hirnlos” statement.
religion is a cloak chosen to wear. ( and it tends to cloak insidious character )
color is not chosen by the wearer and does not rub off.

Posted by: MAKK | Sep 22 2025 15:59 utc | 146

@Genesis | Sep 22 2025 13:43 utc | 130
“Why are you stopping with glide bombs? (By the way, the West didn’t have them until 2024, so they’re replicas.)”
I just gave one example where Russia lagged behind in weapon technology. I never said, that Russia hasn’t weapon systems which are suprior to the western ones. But thank you for your list, altough there was nothing on it I didn’t already knew.
According to you the west didn’t have glide bombs until 2024? Pardon me?
-> AGM-154 Joint Standoff Weapon since 1998
-> GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb since 2006
-> GBU-15 since 1975
-> JDAM (which is a guidance kit that converts unguided bombs to guide bombs) since 1999
The glide bombs which the Russians are using know are similiar to the JDAM’s – they call them UMPK (Unified gliding and correction module). They are using them heavily now, but they were totally absent in early 2022.

Posted by: NoName | Sep 22 2025 16:17 utc | 148

Posted by: will moon | Sep 22 2025 13:52 utc | 133
“Trump is just as much to blame as Biden and has sent many many Ukrainians to their death. Hariss was VP and irrelevant”
You’re right that Trump was unable/unwilling to end the war quickly, you’re wrong about Harris being irrelevant. She is the one who kept the facade going while Biden was wandering off into the rainforest and Nuland and Sullivan were setting Ukraine on fire. Don’t you remember her lying to you about Biden’s mental acuity and stamina? I do.

Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 22 2025 16:35 utc | 150

For the love of God, folks, STOP FEEDING THE TROLL at 18:51 utc.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 22 2025 16:50 utc | 152

Newbie // 115
The link to Simplicius’ article on Robert Kagan hints strongly at who is exactly behind the war in Ukraine. According to Simplicius, the same people pushing the west’s never ending war against Russia are the same people behind the genocidal war in Gaza.
In his first paragraph, Simplicius wrote, “Most know Kagan as the husband of Victoria Nuland and co-founder of the seminal Project for a New American Century which has been credited with laying the blueprints for America’s disastrous Middle Eastern entanglements in the post-9/11 era.”
Anyone who has a passing understanding of Ukraine since 2014 knows of Nuland’s role in creating the current disaster in that country. That she and her husband have also shaped the U.S. actions in the Middle East – its invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, destruction of Libya and Syria, attacks on Iran and Qatar, assassinations of various diplomats and heads of state – “demonstrates the sheer lawlessness and amorality of the theoretical framework under which Kagan’s world view operates. There is a kind of coldblooded aloofness to the horrors of war and mass extinction which finds comfort in his soul.”
Simplicius says it in a round about way, but what he means is, “Kagan and his wife are pure evil.” Simplicius concludes with two brutal paragraphs summarizing the nature of their evil:
“It’s why the PNAC patriarch [Kagan] is able to operate within such a rootless matrix of brazen amorality: the clan [wealthy and powerful eastern European Jews] he represents exists as a parallel branch of ‘untouchables’ within the private-public complex of the governmental machine. They write their own rules, follow their own codes, and have no one to answer to—which allows them to play the primordial game in the purest way, unburdened by pesky ‘principles’ and other such vestiges of mortal servants of the public who must account for their actions via the natural self-regulating mechanisms of any normally functioning government.
“No, Kagan and his ilk are instead apex predators operating within the government’s dusky penumbra, where the boundaries of sanity and legality are conveniently blurred beyond recognition, and where only the echoes of rootless nihilism serve as guiding signposts. They of course always find outlet in places like the Atlantic, run by another Iraq war-neocon in Jeffrey Goldberg.
“The clan serves its own.”
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The Russians are not stupid. They know who they are actually fighting. This is why the Russian government recently announced they intend to destroy, “international Satanism.” Only those people with a deep knowledge of Christian theology understand exactly what the Russians meant.
The key text comes from the Gospel of John, that’s in the New Testament for you non-Christians, chapter 8.
“They [the Jews] answered him [Jesus], “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would be doing the works Abraham did, but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did. You are doing the works your father did.”
This is the central question that divides Jews and Christians. The Jews claim Abraham as their father. Jesus says, “Hold on there. No he isn’t.” This is a fundamental point in Christianity. You don’t need to be a Christian to understand this. You don’t need to believe any of this. That’s not the point. The point is this is a fundamental tenant of Christianity. The Jews are not children of Abraham.
The conversation continues:
“They [the Jews] said to him [Jesus], “We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father—God.” Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I AM. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.”
In those last few lines, Jesus says the Jews’ true father is Satan. He knows this because they act like their father Satan – they are murderers and constant liars. This is Simplicius’ conclusion regarding Kagan, Nuland, Goldberg, and the rest of their “clan.” They are brutal, evil murderers, and constant, constant liars.
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What’s the point?
When the Russians announced they were going after international Satanists and the international Satanists’ money, they used Christian code words to point to a particular group of people, a clan so to speak, who is behind all the trouble in the Middle East – including Iran and Syria where Russia has a particular interest – as well as in Ukraine. It is all part of a larger project of world domination being run by a nihilistic, amoral, evil, anti-human cult which had its origins in Jerusalem but which festered for hundreds of years on the north shore of the Black Sea. The Russians announced in hidden language they were going after the rich, elite Jews.
The Russian announcement that their real target was international Satanism is shocking in its implications, but it has somehow escaped notice by most people.

Posted by: Nobody Special | Sep 22 2025 17:03 utc | 154

– “Ex-General EXPOSES Ukraine’s Costly Mistakes vs Russia”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUw3NGPBnUs (length: 14 minutes).
Published on september 18, 2025.

Posted by: WMG | Sep 22 2025 17:35 utc | 156

@ Nobody Special | Sep 22 2025 17:03 utc | 154
I had come across the Russian announcement about “international Satanism” but admit that its significance escaped me at the time, initially I put it down to an artifact caused by machine translation, so thank you for making the connections in your post.
The implications are indeed profound.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 22 2025 18:04 utc | 158

– – “Ex-General EXPOSES Ukraine’s Costly Mistakes vs Russia”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUw3NGPBnUs (length: 14 minutes).
The video was made & published on september 18, 2025. The video refers to the following article in which (former ???) ukrainian general Viktor Muzhenko tells the story of the ukrainian defeat.
https://texty.org.ua/fragments/114022/we-had-a-chance-to-win-on-the-battlefield-and-still-have-it-general-muzhenko-on-how-to-stop-the-russians/
This article was published on/carries the date of december 9, 2024. With that date (december 9, 2024) the text start to make much more sense because the article mentions the Kursk incursion.

Posted by: WMG | Sep 22 2025 18:22 utc | 160

Not much detail yet on this emerging situation:

Ukrainians stormed the Kalush [TCC] and released three conscripts
“A group of unknown individuals attacked the Kalush [TCC]; three conscripts escaped,” the Ivano-Frankivsk regional [TCC] reported.
“An investigative team is working at the scene,” Ukrainian military commissars say.
No further details have been released.
Source: Telegram “llordofwar”

https://news-pravda.com/ukraine/2025/09/22/1708697.html
One or two other channels report the attackers were armed, though not saying what the armaments were.
“To the last Ukrainian” said somebody, somewhere, once upon a time…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 22 2025 19:45 utc | 162

@LoveDonbass | Mon, 22 Sep 2025 13:57:00 GMT | 135

How do you identify that which is beyond your senses?
Frequencies you cannot hear and light spectrums your eyes don’t register? Touches and smells too subtle to notice?

You would typically use measuring instruments. Their proper application allows to sport such a fancy notions in the first place without being subjected to some more or less righteous ridicule. However, what you thus do is to identify the unidentifiable.
Upon closer inspection – cue the quantum findings – this is what has been exercised all along, just without “us” [I’m speaking as a German] realizing it. My point being that awareness is prerequisite for meaningful statements about things, and this includes God. So defining him as the per se unidentifiable doesn’t yield any useful returns. It means, literally, nothing.
But this point is a little over the top on the Ukie thread, as I’ll concede. We may come back to it on some other occassions.

Posted by: persiflo | Sep 22 2025 20:02 utc | 164

To Love Dombass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy_iD6Lf6MY&t=6759s
A scholar shreds your epistemological evidence for the founder of your degenerate excuse for a “religion”. Why is it that there is no written evidence for the existence of Mohammed for over two hundred years, and even then it is the name MKHMT? Surely with all the vellum in Baghdad at the so-called time of his existence someone would have written something contemporaneous about him,and it would have survived, but apparently not. Barely 12 years after the death of Christ St Luke was compiling his gospel, the four gospels were all written within 70 years of his death, and survive today, plus the Acts, the letters of Paul, Peter, Jude and the Apocalypse. What’s more it was written on parchment which is no where near as durable as vellum, but it survived wheras where is the evidence for your hero?
How can Mohammed say that he entered the temple when it had been destroyed fot nearly 600 years. It beggars belief that there is no possible way that Mohammedism is a natural following on from the bible. It simply isn’t. The bible, both old and new testaments, are all about Jesus Christ, Son of God, who is the Messiah and Saviour of mankind. That you cannot see that only speaks of your very limited intelligence.

Posted by: Paul Dale | Sep 22 2025 20:08 utc | 166

George | Sep 22 2025 5:25 utc | 86
Hi George ! Tis a noble name ! And thee carries it well.

I suggest you take a look at Earl Doherty’s research where he argues that the Jesus in the Bible is a composite figure made up of at least 4 sources, and was never a single person. He actually argues that one of those was political and wanting to get rid of the Roman dominance in the region at the time. He would argue against your view. The fact is there is very little evidence for the existence of Jesus anyway, so there has been enormous debate about who he was and where he came from beyond what the Bible says.

‘Kin right Porgey ! Not only but also, all the earliest representations of “Jesus” are of a a blonde curly haired boy, to wit – Apollo !
It reminds one that “God” resmbles, uncannily – Zeus !
Oooh ! Lindsey Graham my ass in surprise . . .

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Sep 22 2025 20:41 utc | 168

Mystery drones block Copenhagen Airport
Tweets:

Faytuks News @Faytuks
Airspace over Copenhagen has been closed due to presence of multiple large drones near the city’s airport, according to local officials – TV2
https://x.com/Faytuks/status/1970215246012067972
Flightradar24 @flightradar24
⚠️ As of 22:05 local time (20:05 UTC), more than 35 flights bound for Copenhagen Airport have been diverted to other airports due to the drone situation. Malmö, Billund, Aarhus and Gothenburg have received the most flights.
https://x.com/flightradar24/status/1970217982879228373

Live updates:

Drones disrupt the airspace over Copenhagen Airport
What’s happening? On Monday evening, no planes can land or take off at Copenhagen Airport. This is due to two to three “larger” drones in the area, according to Copenhagen Police, who are present at the airport.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 22 2025 20:44 utc | 170

so who is flying uav drones over military bases Denmark and Norway as slavyangrad is reporting???aliens?Pranksters?

Posted by: Jo | Sep 22 2025 20:53 utc | 172

#layout
Ukraine is increasingly sliding into a mobilization crisis. Shooting in the Kirovograd region, beatings of men on the streets by shopping centers, night raids on apartments, all these are links in one chain. Society reacts not only with fear, but also with aggression to the permissiveness of sadistic people-catchers. The question is no longer whether there will be outbursts of resistance, but how far they will go.
Three probable scenarios were predicted.
First — local flashes. With the “blessing of the authorities,” the shopping center continues «to put pressure», but videos continue to appear in a targeted manner, and people — fight back where they are completely pressed or where resistance groups have already been organized. The shopping center and the police retain the appearance of control, but the level of trust in the state is completely collapsing. Outside — order, inside — rot.
Second scenario — mass resistance. When individual fights with military commissars turn into systemic actions. Chats for coordination are already being distributed throughout the regions. Tomorrow it could be a whole area that opposes the raid. TCC members constantly encounter not just one «deviator», but dozens of people. Bankova will have to either openly introduce repressive measures in cities (official punitive detachments), or admit that the mobilization machine has broken down.
And the third — civil crisis. When the slogan «Give me some shopping center loops» ceases to be a courtyard half-joking slogan and turns into a symbol of protest against the system itself. Then we will not talk about mobilization, but about the legitimacy of the government itself. Any mistake — and tension develops into a direct clash between society and the state.
@Legitimny

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 22 2025 21:16 utc | 174

@ Jo | Sep 22 2025 20:53 utc | 172

so who is flying uav drones over military bases Denmark and Norway

NATO does, most likely. Who else.

Posted by: boneless | Sep 22 2025 21:36 utc | 176

If we identify him as unidentifiable, this means what, exactly?
Posted by: persiflo | Sep 22 2025 12:19 utc | 125
***************
Well, can you identify God?
… and, this means what, exactly?

Posted by: General Factotum | Sep 22 2025 21:43 utc | 178

While you’re at it, how about you tell us how a photon can be an energy wave without mass, and at the same time it acts like a particle displaying what appears to be inertial mass. That should keep you busy for a few minutes, or do you already have that figured out?
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 22 2025 14:03 utc | 136
**************
Your first sentence above is factually incorrect. The photon in question does not ‘at the same time act’ – it is simply in a superposition of states, and the act of measurement (or observation) forces one of the two states, which, after the measurement, is known.
So, firstly, brush up on wave-particle duality and superposition of states.
Then you will be ready to proceed to quantum entanglement, and investigate ‘spooky things at a distance’. Consider Bell’s Theorem (or Bell’s inequality) and the EPR (Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen) Paradox to add richness and depth to your newly acquired understanding…
And no 0 I didn’t figure it out, but I’m grateful that a lot of clever people put in a lot of hard work in order to advance our understanding just a little bit…

Posted by: General Factotum | Sep 22 2025 22:03 utc | 180

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Sep 22 2025 22:10 utc | 181
I think that this may be the Russian response to the NATO exercises in Estonia.
I think there is a possibility that the crazies plan to attack Belarus perhaps during this NATO exercise. Russia is clearing the way in case a hazel tree or five needs to be delivered rapidly.

Posted by: watcher | Sep 22 2025 22:32 utc | 182

Looks like another major war in Europe – will be on the cards at the end of this decade, probably instigated by Germany, oh well, you know what they say, third time lucky.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 22 2025 14:55 utc | 140
Not by a long shot. Trump needs china and RF (and some stray nato allies) to stop buying gold.
If this goes on for another 6-7 years the usd is screwed
10 year truce.
Then war starts elsewhere and reprise at ukraine maybe 12-15 years from now
Germans (franks, anglos, vikings and german are so passée ) unlikely to lead anything (including their wives)
Silver was downgraded as not currency linked 150 years ago, gold might if china and RF don’t prop it further (but only in the 2040’s after the war)
China would very much like not to burn all the usd it has, the us would very much like not to see usd burn too early a bump in the 2040’s , a crash in the 2070’s , but not right now.
6-7 years for a nexus, 1-2 for a deal to be made in time.
Who will break, who will fold? Hint china has been able to play the last four years without reducing non-gold reserves. they could play for decades even doubling value every year…
Guess who has the cards….

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 22 2025 23:49 utc | 184

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 22 2025 20:44 utc | 170
There were similar episodes in the UK a few years ago, swiftly followed by the appearance of an Israeli company selling with an anti-drone system for protecting airports. It was considered a fortuitous coincidence.
No culprits were found, despite a Keystone Cops investigation ad the closure of several airports.
I’m sure that the recent uptick in airport related mularkey across Europe has nothing at all with plans to recognise a Palestinian state, oh no.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 23 2025 0:27 utc | 186

I came here to get updates on what was happening on the ground and in the air in Ukraine, as I don’t believe a word I read in the Western press (and lately, there hasn’t been very much in terms of war reporting at all).
Why, might I ask, is this “Ukraine” thread full of comments about Charlie Kirk and Christianity? Not that those are not worthy subjects, but they are not at all related to “Ukraine”.
The signal to noise ratio is getting progressively worse.

Posted by: KevinB | Sep 23 2025 1:08 utc | 188

@justoldguy 4
Quote “want to be heard by citizens of the Western states…”
Has Putin been this direct before?”
Why?
Why does Putin need to be heard and understood by the western public especially Anglos of which he cares too much?
It is his special treatment to pirate island England that has emboldened pirate nation to wage war on Russia through Ukraine proxi.
Has Putin lost the plot? This sounds both illogical and foolish. Is he showing signs of delusion or even dementia? Or has Putin simply gone mad?
From RT extracts
“Putin seeks close ties as Partners with the US and it’s Allies everywhere.
And when our current opponents – and maybe potential partners – will finally hear, understand and realize this, it seems to me that at that point the realization will come that what is needed is to seek compromises,” he said.
Moscow is ready to try to rebuild ties with the US and its allies, but it should only happen “without harming our interests,” Putin pointed out.
Cringe! What could be more terrifying than the President of Russia, in the midst of a war in Ukraine against the US, NATO, and the entire Western sphere, acting sweet and nice, talking about wanting to be friends and partners again, and suggesting cooperation and compromises?
This feels like truly unhinged, crazy rhetoric. Surely this is schizoid behavior because it is far from realistic under the circumstances now and the foreseeable future out to 2030.
To me this is very dangerous rhetoric for Russia to playing with, bordering on foolhardy and incompetent.
Russia will never win if this is their thinking of their leadership already. Nor will BRICS, China and the global south with ‘two faced inconsistent’ friends like this.
Quote “Putin and Russians seem to not care about the terror and murder of Russian civilians in their own homes.”
Not only that.once England has shown by its actions that it plotted Syrian and Ukraine war because it could get free hand from Russian stupidity since 2014, it was imperative for Russia to annihilate that persistent enemy of England which is a common factor in all wars.
Russia, having realised that England is it’s existential enemy, Russia must plot downfall of that evil satanic 3rd rate country of English pirates.
In other words Russia must make effort to tear apart England into 5 parts just as England intended to for Iraq, Syria, and even Russia . Remember England stole one thousand billion dollar worth of wealth from Russia in 1990s only .
Russia never had brain to stop gas and oil supply to England which has plotted and run this Ukraine war from behind. Easy target is Austria which is not even anti russian state.
Stu-id Putin as always .

Posted by: Sam | Sep 23 2025 1:37 utc | 190

Posted by: Sam | Sep 23 2025 1:37 utc | 190
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Y’know, I just love these armchair geopolitical experts like yourself. You must be some genius with an encyclopedic knowledge of Russian history and an uncanny insight into the mental state and psychology of the current Russian leadership. I’m guessing you’re, what? a doctoral graduate with a degree in Russian history and internal politics, with an emphasis on Vlad Putin, amiright?
Care to show us a link to your thesis?
Notice that I’m not claiming that I know more than you do here, so don’t pull that shit on me.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 23 2025 2:27 utc | 192

Posted by: General Factotum | Sep 22 2025 22:03 utc | 180
“and the act of measurement (or observation) forces one of the two states, which, after the measurement, is known.”
So it’s Schrödinger’s photon? That’s a new one!

Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 23 2025 4:29 utc | 194

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 22 2025 20:43 utc | 169
“Does this mean Germany is preparing for 250 to 500 dead per day in case of conflict with Russia?”
If they are, it seems like a large underestimate to me. If they do enter into a conflict with Russia, they don’t just have to count front-line fighters. They will be declaring war, and if they do that, the rest of the poodles are not obliged to bark.
If they do this all airbases (excluding perhaps, US facilities), manufacturing plants, power utilities, oil pipelines etc. will also be dealt with. Not to mention government buildings. It won’t be like Ukraine, where Russia is doing its best to avoid civillian deaths – a war with Germany would involve a very sharp, hard, deep and massive strike to discourage the rest. Oreshniks all over, and more.
Actually, although Merz likes to mouth off, I don’t think he is clinically insane, as he would have to be to do something so crazy.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Sep 23 2025 8:47 utc | 196

@General Factotum | Mon, 22 Sep 2025 21:43:00 GMT | 178

If we identify him as unidentifiable, this means what, exactly?
Posted by: persiflo | Sep 22 2025 12:19 utc | 125
***************
Well, can you identify God?
… and, this means what, exactly?

For one, I wouldn’t try to “define” him at all, and especially not in terms of a full-on contradiction which is based on no less than the knowable itself. My preferred way of knowing him would be experience, refined through contemplation and thought. Thus he turns out to be not completely removed, but also not all-encompassing in the sense of being in full union with him.

Posted by: persiflo | Sep 23 2025 9:04 utc | 198

by: Jams O’Donnell | Sep 23 2025 8:52 utc | 197
“Best to stick to religion, (in the ‘Religion’ thread, please) where you might have a point – but even there – I’m doubtful.”
Just my way of saying don’t be so arrogant, there are still things we don’t know and can’t explain.

Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 23 2025 11:51 utc | 200