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September 21, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-216
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Posted by: Cathay Kid | Sep 21 2025 12:28 utc | 1
Hungary Warned About Brussels’ Three Regime Change Plots In Central Europe
https://open.substack.com/pub/korybko/p/hungary-warned-about-brussels-three?r=2zfp1k&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false
The mask drops.
Posted by: frithguild | Sep 21 2025 14:15 utc | 2
What this guy means is that Ukraine should fight Russia until the last Ukrainian, and the last Euro.
“Ukraine should keep fighting Russia until it takes Moscow, former Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko has declared. Kiev’s forces have been on the retreat for months along the entire front line.
Yushchenko served as president of Ukraine between 2005 and 2010, following the so-called Orange Revolution, which resulted in the Supreme Court going against the national constitution and ordering a third round in the election, which he won.
In an interview with Apostrof TV on YouTube on Friday, the former president slammed those calling for a stop to the fighting along the current line of contact.
“I cannot leave it like that. It will never be my choice,” he insisted, adding that at age 71 he has every right to “speak frankly” about what he sees as his country’s goals in the conflict.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 21 2025 14:53 utc | 3
“I want to be heard by citizens of the Western states…”
Has Putin been this direct before?
“Western elites lie — blaming Russia for your struggles. But the real cause is their years of greed, mistakes & selfish ambitions.”
https://x.com/mog_russEN/status/1969672752161570953
Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | Sep 21 2025 15:09 utc | 4
Sorry for the off-topic commentary.
Question:
Is it true that about three weeks ago, a $500 million NATO satellite was destroyed in 18 seconds by a Russian missile?
I saw it on YouTube and a few websites.
But as usual, it’s hard to believe.
But I hope so!
Posted by: kammamuri | Sep 21 2025 15:09 utc | 5
Sorry for the off-topic commentary.
Question:
Is it true that about three weeks ago, a $500 million NATO satellite was destroyed in 18 seconds by a Russian missile?
I saw it on YouTube and a few websites.
But as usual, it’s hard to believe.
But I hope so!
Posted by: kammamuri | Sep 21 2025 15:10 utc | 6
Sorry for the off-topic commentary.
Question:
Is it true that about three weeks ago, a $500 million NATO satellite was destroyed in 18 seconds by a Russian missile?
I saw it on YouTube and a few websites.
But as usual, it’s hard to believe.
But I hope so!
Posted by: kammamuri | Sep 21 2025 15:12 utc | 7
Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 19th September 2025: May be Useful to Some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-07c
Posted by: The Busker | Sep 21 2025 15:26 utc | 8
Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | Sep 21 2025 15:09 utc | 4
Western elites has successfully planted the idea in the minds of their citizens that dismemberment of Russia and plundering its resources is the only way to secure their and children’s future. So some pain is essential. The citizens by and large happy to go along.
Kallas was very open about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwI5gchCL2U
I saw this claim on Borzikman but I doubted it. Now, there’s a second source offering details.
Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 21 2025 15:35 utc | 10
Western elites has successfully planted the idea in the minds of their citizens that dismemberment of Russia and plundering its resources is the only way to secure their and children’s future. So some pain is essential. The citizens by and large happy to go along.
Kallas was very open about it.
Posted by: Michael J | Sep 21 2025 15:26 utc | 9
No, and since you don’t provide any evidence, I’ll leave it at that.
Posted by: BlindSpot | Sep 21 2025 16:37 utc | 11
Western elites has successfully planted the idea in the minds of their citizens that dismemberment of Russia and plundering its resources is the only way to secure their and children’s future. So some pain is essential. The citizens by and large happy to go along.
Kallas was very open about it.
Posted by: Michael J | Sep 21 2025 15:26 utc | 9
Some are going to be much less happy about the results than others. It won’t take more than a few Oreshniks to set back European military production by decades. President Trump would love to see some European governments replaced by Meloni/ LePen style nationalists, so no help from America.
Time is very much a factor in this conflict, and Russia would be smart to realize that Europe will eventually develop efficient military production if not stopped.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 21 2025 16:39 utc | 12
No, and since you don’t provide any evidence, I’ll leave it at that.
Posted by: BlindSpot | Sep 21 2025 16:37 utc | 11
https://youtu.be/HzhVE4FnEBU?si=zlSHRCu9UCftXDcr
From 3.41 mark Kallas speaking.
@ They Call Me Mister | Sep 21 2025 16:39 utc | 12
Europe will eventually develop efficient military production if not stopped.
When is this eventually and what basis is used for such a confident statement? What is in EU’s economic, political and military actions scream “competence” so loudly at you?
Posted by: boneless | Sep 21 2025 17:07 utc | 14
Europe will eventually develop efficient military production if not stopped.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 21 2025 16:39 utc | 12
For that to happen Europe will need the following to be affordable and available:
– Energy supplies
– Raw material supplies
– Component supplies
– Workforce skills
– Debt financing
Quite a list there, one that Europe should probably write down and post to the North Pole, in time for the 25th December…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 17:40 utc | 16
When is this eventually and what basis is used for such a confident statement? What is in EU’s economic, political and military actions scream “competence” so loudly at you?
Posted by: boneless | Sep 21 2025 17:07 utc | 14
History. Many wars in the industrial West have started with a corrupt group basically maintaining a superfluous military machine. Governments are encouraged to cut through “red tape” while punishing those who get too greedy with the vast sums of money on offer. While the Soviets love to insist the production battle was strictly between the Germans and the Russians, that wasn’t actually the case.
For obvious reasons, Russia had a motivation to deal with the corruption early and decisively. The actual powers in the West (the oligarchy) will do likewise as the war hysteria continues and the fighting gets closer to NATO borders or “vital interests” like Israel.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 21 2025 17:41 utc | 17
“Western elites has successfully planted the idea in the minds of their citizens that dismemberment of Russia and plundering its resources is the only way to secure their and children’s future. So some pain is essential. The citizens by and large happy to go along.
Kallas was very open about it.
Posted by: Michael J | Sep 21 2025 15:26 utc | 9
Alternatively, the voiceless European citizens if offered the choice between needlessly fighting Russia or hanging all the so-called Leadership in Britain, France, Germany and all parasites (who joined NATO for free stuff and a soapbox), may I suggest the demand for Rope and Scaffolding would increase.
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 21 2025 17:51 utc | 18
For that to happen Europe will need the following to be affordable and available:
– Energy supplies
– Raw material supplies
– Component supplies
– Workforce skills
– Debt financing
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 17:40 utc | 16
Energy supplies are less abundant without Russia, but they’ll draw heat away from winter pensioners or mortgage monuments for American LNG if they have to. Anyways, you forgot the biggest one: capital investment. Expanding factories or building new ones will take time, and none of them are truly safe from Russian missile strikes.
The main goal for Russia has been to split the USA from its EU satrapies, and so far the incompetence of the EU functionaries has helped this along wonderfully. But once Russia takes a significant enough slice of Ukraine, the unelected drones of the EC are going to be replaced by ones just as war hungry, but with a mandate for domestic austerity.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 21 2025 17:55 utc | 19
Many wars in the industrial West have started with a corrupt group basically maintaining a superfluous military machine.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 21 2025 17:41 utc | 17
Sorry to pick on a comment of yours again, but since the “Great Financialisation” of the 1980s we are in a post-industrial West, in which we now have a corrupt group maintaining a prestidigitational financial machine, complete with smoke, mirrors and Peppers Ghost assets; there is no means by which this can revert back to a well-oiled manufacturing economy capable of turning out hundreds of tanks a month or thousands of mortar shells a week.
Balance sheets bloated by make-believe don’t measure the strength available to successfully conduct a military conflict.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 18:07 utc | 20
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 21 2025 17:41 utc | 17
You have nicely described the objective(s) of European Elites to revive the glorious days of annihilating their citizens. Again.
But I see no evidence of the means to achieve such elusive goals, without the cohesive human, natural and energy resources to get such an emotionally ginned-up project off the ground.
Flapping your lips, shrieking like yard-ape school girls about paper airplanes and making debt-funded grandiose plans fall far short of (based on a true story !) beating Russia at the killing game.
And in the Grande Strategy, will Russia sit fixated on the building of the Grande Arme, or knock it out before breakfast?
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 21 2025 18:10 utc | 21
“I cannot leave it like that. It will never be my choice,” he insisted, adding that at age 71 he has every right to “speak frankly” about what he sees as his country’s goals in the conflict.”
Sure, at 71 nobody will draft him for a war he wants to send every living Ukrainian, nor his sons that he took with him abroad. Ukraine is not a country, it’s a reservation ruled by Governor-Generals, now turned into PMC with dedicated people-catchers and everything, where “citizens” are just consumables to be killed off in a futile crusade to harm Russia.
But their hatred of Russia is genuine, both elites and people, for different reasons though: Ukrainian elites see Russia as a threat to their non-stop plunder, sex trafficking, organ harvesting, drugs, porn, fearing if they’re sucked back in Moscow’s orbit, plunder-fest with no accountability will end. People hate because education system was destroyed and you can put anything in a blank slate. They’ve been brainwashed by all-encompassing sophisticated war propaganda, weaponized false history, highlighting everything bad that’s ever happenned during centuries of coexistance and diminishing or silencing everything good that nations shared together.
Posted by: taukey | Sep 21 2025 18:11 utc | 22
@ They Call Me Mister | Sep 21 2025 17:41 utc | 17
But where is this “superfluous military machine” now? I genuinely do not see the argument.
Posted by: boneless | Sep 21 2025 18:13 utc | 23
Anyways, you forgot the biggest one: capital investment. Expanding factories or building new ones will take time
They Call Me Mister | Sep 21 2025 17:55 utc | 19
Not forgotten, comes under the heading of “Debt financing”, which needs to be affordable, and this is where Europe is going to have problems, because each of the individual nations already have their own debt difficulties, adding a supervening layer of Europe-wide debt will need further willing buyers of the debt instruments.
Who is going to buy, and at what coupon?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 18:18 utc | 24
Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 21 2025 15:35 utc | 10
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I don’t trust anyone 100% but for all the skepticism that channel gets, I can’t remember them being wrong often, or at all, in the last year.
Borzzikman has different sources and helpd to paint a wider canvas than most media.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 21 2025 18:24 utc | 25
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 21 2025 17:55 utc | 19
I see very little chance of EU being able to create a real war time economy.
Social issues – France and Belgium will blow up into various Caliphates if they try reducing social expenditure.
Car and steel industries gone, outcompeted, sinking into huge raw material and energy costs, even quality is average compared to Chinese or others, EU regulation strangles everything more and more. No more orders. The technical talent and manufacturing withers away. No war industry for you.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 21 2025 18:29 utc | 27
Anyway, closer to the thread topic:
Verkhovna Rada MP: The Ukrainian Armed Forces are unable to advance due to a lack of personnel.
The Ukrainian army lacks the capability to conduct major offensive operations; currently, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are only capable of defensive actions. This was stated by Verkhovna Rada MP Roman Kostenko.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces lack the ability to attack due to a shortage of personnel, the MP stated. The current capabilities of the Ukrainian army are limited to defense. The problem is that the total mobilization launched by Kyiv is incapable of meeting the needs of the combat brigades, supplying only half the required number of recruits.
Ukraine is mobilizing half of its needs to staff its brigades.
– Kostenko states.
Ukrainian media outlets are reporting that the Ukrainian authorities are to blame for this situation. While at the start of the Russian special operation in 2022, Ukrainians flocked to military recruitment offices en masse, believing they would be fighting for their freedom and sovereignty, the situation today is entirely different. Zelenskyy and his entourage have turned Ukraine into a concentration camp, completely killing Ukrainians’ motivation to fight. People are not prepared to die for a thriving, corrupt elite that considers the rest of Ukraine’s population slaves. And these are not the words of Russian propaganda, but statements from Ukrainians themselves.
This explains the forced mobilization, which Kyiv dismisses as “Moscow propaganda,” and all documented cases of “busification” are documented by Mosfilm. According to Ukrainian media, only 20% of those forcibly mobilized reach the front lines; the rest desert.
https://en.topwar.ru/271265-nardep-vru-vsu-ne-imejut-vozmozhnosti-nastupat-iz-za-nehvatki-lichnogo-sostava.html
Yup, some of us could have told them all that ages ago, but like some legendary huge dinosaur, the signals from the damaged tail and hindquarters take time to reach the brain.
But, but muh attrition is not working…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 18:29 utc | 28
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 18:18 utc | 24
It’s somekind of sketch from the Naked Gun or somesuch. You could buy gas and oil directly from the Russians for cheap, or you could lend money to the Euros for them to be able (maybe, however unlikely) to steal the stuff from the Russians and sell it to you with a hefty markup.
I wish that was a farcical movie instead of a even more farcical realit.
Posted by: kspr | Sep 21 2025 18:31 utc | 29
Balance sheets bloated by make-believe don’t measure the strength available to successfully conduct a military conflict.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 18:07 utc | 20
The West is layered hypothecations. Nothing underlying pledges but more pledges. Too Big To Fail -enrich the Chosen, beggar everyone else.
Britain, the original, or at least one of, the Skunk Works nations, building the Rolls-Royce Merlin to get the U.S. Mustang from mediocrity to fighting marvel. The original jet engine before copied and put into production by the Germans.
Now, hard pressed to see what is left of a once productive nation.
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 21 2025 18:48 utc | 30
Sorry to pick on a comment of yours again, but since the “Great Financialisation” of the 1980s we are in a post-industrial West,
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 18:07 utc | 20
Don’t worry about it. While the process of deindustrialization has taken decades at the hands of greedy oligarchs, it isn’t impossible to mitigate- including slashing of regulations. There are people who want to just imagine away the American war machine, but Russian strategists always keep that machine in the forefront of their thoughts. Anyways, further debt is going to come, mostly at the expense of globalist corporations/banks alongside new European austerity. This will have pushback, but the repression in the EU will be staggering. Especially of ethnic minorities who only have tenuous commitment to the European project.
None of that will guarantee European victory, of course, but it certainly could mean the difference between a quick change of European governments and a long, extremely bloody war with Russia.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 21 2025 18:48 utc | 31
European citizens are ready to sacrifice their quality of life for the sake of defeating and plundering Russia.
So they will improve their military capabilities very soon.
Posted by: vargas | Sep 21 2025 18:51 utc | 32
@ Posted by: vargas | Sep 21 2025 18:51 utc | 32
What do European citizens propose to do with Russian nukes? Gamble all their lives that Russia won’t dare?
Posted by: taukey | Sep 21 2025 18:59 utc | 33
European citizens are ready to sacrifice their quality of life for the sake of defeating and plundering Russia.
So they will improve their military capabilities very soon.
Posted by: vargas | Sep 21 2025 18:51 utc | 32
Ugh. It absolutely depends where you are. The Baltics, yes, but they are also far too small to matter. There is a substantial minority who rejects this in Germany, and that is where the repression is likely to be harshest- which has already happened in Romania. The Scandinavians are generally unenthusiastic, but their likely governments are all in. The Poles are the most significant power which hates Russia, and we will see if Russia can do anything about that.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 21 2025 19:01 utc | 34
The West is layered hypothecations. Nothing underlying pledges but more pledges
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 21 2025 18:48 utc | 30
Exactly this, with the added spice that nobody dares try to actually redeem the pledges they hold as assets, they can’t afford for the whole fictional miasma to be exposed.
That really could be ”The End Of History”.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 19:03 utc | 35
European citizens are ready to sacrifice their quality of life for the sake of defeating and plundering Russia.
Posted by: vargas | Sep 21 2025 18:51 utc | 32
Don’t normally bother myself with such low-grade comedy as this, but got to ask, have you actually seen the size of the demonstrations in Paris and Warsaw, to name but two European cities just this weekend?
Just like those who loudly proclaim “To the last Ukrainian”, those directly affected by such lofty concepts and proclamations will have their say, even it eventually takes dead riot control officers to get the point across. Just for examples, the Ukrainian press-gang officers are now frequently taking beatings, including stabbings and petrol-bombings, “recruitment” operations failing repeatedly.
Coming soon to a European theatre near you…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 19:16 utc | 36
@32,
Improve soon….
If wishes were ponies the beggars would ride.
Posted by: paddy | Sep 21 2025 19:32 utc | 37
Putin’s BRUTAL Offensive Shocks NATO, Ukraine FINISHED | Scott Ritter & Larry Johnson
NATO is panicking as allegations of Russian drones swarms violating the airspace of member states has the alliance scrambling toward World War 3. Beneath the surface, says Scott Ritter & Larry Johnson, is a major offensive led by Putin which has Russia in the driver’s seat for the most devastating defeat in Europe’s history. This video breaks it all down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjF5JnimlXQ
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 21 2025 19:33 utc | 38
Posted by: vargas | Sep 21 2025 18:51 utc | 32
European citizens are ready to sacrifice their quality of life for the sake of defeating and plundering Russia.
So they will improve their military capabilities very soon.
I take it you don’t live in Europe. There is neither a will for sacrifice, by any stretch, nor a conscious desire for plunder.
There are economic hard times ahead, we are told, but these sacrifices are not corollary to the race for armament. This race is existential, we are told, and these are completely unrelated developments.
Posted by: robin | Sep 21 2025 19:44 utc | 39
“Republican lawmakers in Oklahoma introduced legislation this week that would require every public university in the state to construct “a Charlie Kirk Memorial Plaza”, with a statue of the assassinated Republican activist and a sign calling him a “modern civil rights leader”, or pay monthly fines.”
2+2=5
Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 21 2025 19:48 utc | 40
it isn’t impossible to mitigate- including slashing of regulations. There are people who want to just imagine away the American war machine, but Russian strategists always keep that machine in the forefront of their thoughts. Anyways, further debt is going to come
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 21 2025 18:48 utc | 31
Thanks for the response, some further matters arising; the American war machine still can’t get the F-35 fully signed off, I came across the latest US Government Audit Office report on that particular project recently, to describe the report as “unflattering” would be charitable. Regulations aren’t the issue, functionality is.
New orders for Patriot systems are now on up to 7 years back order.
Then there’s the fabulously unaffordable B-21…
Debt can only stretch so far, the potential lenders need to be continually convinced of the ability to at least service the loans, in currency that isn’t decreasing in purchasing power. Heaven forbid they demand repayment in gold…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 19:53 utc | 41
“Meanwhile, Florida’s Republican representative Anna Paulina Luna, compared Kirk to Martin Luther King Jr., the civil rights icon who Kirk once called “awful” who “said one good thing he actually didn’t believe.””
OK two fingers for every time CK is compared to a previous famous US assassinee, the whole bottle if he gets compared to Jesus.
It’s going to be a long night of political theatre.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 21 2025 20:00 utc | 42
Interview with a russian veteran commander who teaches recruits how to survive on the front line
https://youtu.be/B1QHxbpfD44?si=7gBTtYM463tQgLc8
Posted by: BlindSpot | Sep 21 2025 20:00 utc | 43
Debt can only stretch so far, the potential lenders need to be continually convinced of the ability to at least service the loans, in currency that isn’t decreasing in purchasing power. Heaven forbid they demand repayment in gold…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 19:53 utc | 41
Enter ‘stablecoins’* backed 1:1 by newly minted Treasuries.
After that it’s CBDCs to the moooooon**!
* it won’t be stable
** well, until they’re worth less than the paper they aren’t printed on
Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 21 2025 20:05 utc | 44
Weapons of mass destruction and genocide are promoted as norm by Americans, because:-
– Hiroshima, Nagasaki bombings are praised
– mass killing in Gaza too
so Russia must do the same, first on USA. Mass destruction of main urban nodes like New York and command centers like Washington and Pentagon. Americans will not stop until they are bled big.
Yes, there is the usual barking about the effect of retaliation on Russia. Well, compared sizes and distribution of urban populations are very different. All main Russian cities and their regions can be wiped, remaining population can survive in forests of the North and some Central Siberia. Americans instead will be ϕucked excepted possibly few patches of central Northern areas.
Once USA turned into Hiroshima and 1945 Berlin, EU puddles will stop barking and take care of their domestic affairs.
I forgot Galicia. At this point only extermination can be used. Banderism is a level of hatred so deeply rooted and inflated that it can not be cured. It is there since the 1880’s. Total extermination.
Posted by: Timur | Sep 21 2025 20:11 utc | 45
@ ChatNPC | Sep 21 2025 20:05 utc | 44
Stablecoins? Dunno what to do with those, do they stink as much as the stable manure I’ve been digging into the ground, ready for next Spring’s planting season?
More financial horse sh¡t…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 20:27 utc | 46
The British b#stards are going for Moldova/Transnistria next…
🇲🇩Moldova’s Suicide Pact: The Coming War for Transnistria
Beneath the surface of sanitized Western headlines, the drums of war are pounding again, this time in Moldova. And Transnistria, long frozen in the post-Soviet permafrost, may soon become the next domino to fall in NATO’s scorched-earth campaign to encircle Russia.
Fresh revelations are emerging from Polish outlet Myśl Polska, confirming what many of us have been warning since 2022: that the West’s covert war planners are about to detonate a Transnistrian powder keg, a cynical operation spearheaded by Romania, Ukraine, Moldova, and their British handlers.
Just weeks ago, reports surfaced of a secret agreement between UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer and Moldovan President Maia Sandu, with London pushing Chisinau to allow British “peacekeepers” and military logistics units to base in Moldova under the guise of future postwar “reconstruction” of Ukraine.
But the real aim? Transnistria, that inconvenient sliver of pro-Russian territory still housing a Russian military contingent, and, more importantly, critical energy infrastructure and the massive Kolbasna ammunition depot.
This week, the veil was torn further: according to Myśl Polska, Romanian forces are already on high alert.
• The 8th Operational-Tactical Missile Brigade stationed in Focșani, equipped with HIMARS, and the 10th Lower Danube Engineer Brigade based in Brăila, are reportedly being readied for rapid deployment.
• Romanian forces are expected to move into Transnistria post-Moldovan elections on September 28, likely under the pretext of “protecting regional stability.”
• Meanwhile, Ukrainian forces—especially the Odessa-based sabotage groups that were active in 2022, are expected to flank this operation, launching strikes and raids into PMR territory under cover of joint NATO-Moldovan drills.
Let’s not pretend this is about “threats to Ukraine” or “democratizing Moldova.” The targets are strategic and economic:
• The Moldovan GRES thermal plant
• The Dubossary hydroelectric station
• Various Transnistrian industrial complexes
• And of course, the Kolbasna depot, an old Soviet stockpile said to house over 20,000 tons of ammunition, which both Moldova and Ukraine dream of seizing, spinning it either as “decommissioning” or “defensive redistribution.”
While the actual condition of the shells may be questionable, the geopolitical prize is not: controlling Transnistria means containing Russia’s western flank, and denying Moscow a forward military presence near NATO’s Black Sea bridgehead.
❗️This isn’t conjecture. The Bulboaca training ground, just 10–20 km from Transnistria, has been the site of NATO-led war rehearsals for years. Western SOF have already been deployed across Moldova in various covert capacities, training local forces and prepping for a full-scale breach of the ceasefire lines.
In fact, as far back as 2022, British and Ukrainian intelligence operatives were spotted shuttling along the Kiev–Odesa–Chișinău axis, laying the groundwork for precisely the kind of provocation now being readied.
What we’re witnessing here is the engineered suicide of Moldova, orchestrated not in Chișinău, but in London, Washington, and Brussels. This isn’t a defense plan, it’s a martyrdom script, with Maia Sandu cast as the sacrificial priestess, ushering her people into a furnace they never voted for.
Let’s be brutally honest: Moldova is being turned into a proxy-springboard for NATO’s dead-end fantasies. Not for freedom. Not for democracy. But to draw Russian blood, weaken Moscow’s buffer zone, and send yet another message to the “Global South” that Western hegemony will not go quietly.
And yet again, it is the Ukrainian army, bleeding and broken, that will be used like mercenary cannon fodder to front this aggression,joined this time by Romanian HIMARS and British SOF, all hiding behind the fig leaf of Moldovan sovereignty.
https://x.com/SMO_VZ/status/1969544332051923045
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 21 2025 20:39 utc | 47
Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 21 2025 20:05 utc | 44
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The issue is that those new treasuries won’t be able to compete with the RMB and USD denominated debt China is offering.
Trump’s plan is for 2020, not the 2026 global economy.
I too can create a new money but no one will accept as payment or to remit taxes.
Starting a new first world currency is much more work than launching a Reddit sh!tcoin.
The US is playing a bad hand with a short stack. There are only so many ways to dress up a turd.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 21 2025 20:42 utc | 48
More financial horse sh¡t…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 20:27 utc | 46
Financial horse shit is the main war right now
US tries to cheapen oil to screw russia (and are almost twice as stingy as brought OPEP to war in 1973)
Russia and china are pushing gold upward to render the above problem unsustainable
That’s, one of the reasons, why I’ve been absent lately
I also chose to answer you because you linked (last thread) to the last simplicius post (one of the most exhaustive lately on ukraine, worth a read)
I’ll just add that this winter can be quite different from previous ones.
RF will control most major roads, and rain cannot stop infiltration forces but block any logistics on secondary roads.
Will be nice seeing AFU troops without neither rotation nor logistics in pocket after pocket.
Last comment, lately AFU losses, more often than not) are on the 1.500’s range… daily. Even if it was KIA+maimed (which it isn’t) and it would still be more than twice AFU can replenish meat.
Will probably remain a bit absent from time to time.
Posted by: Newbie | Sep 21 2025 21:01 utc | 49
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 21 2025 20:39 utc | 47
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If the Blob can’t prop up their ukie meatshields, Moldova is equally vulnerable. It’s amusing how they’ve gone from driving the untermensch back to Moscow to scared rabbits huddling up and brandishing obsolete weaponry. I’m looking forward to the public diplomacy soon.
Posted by: seer | Sep 21 2025 21:13 utc | 50
Debt can only stretch so far, the potential lenders need to be continually convinced of the ability to at least service the loans, in currency that isn’t decreasing in purchasing power. Heaven forbid they demand repayment in gold…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 19:53 utc | 41
Fair enough: but who do you think is buying these Treasuries anyways? Even if China and India dumped their stocks and accepted a much smaller value of USD in exchange, the American banks would be the ones loading up on them. That can’t last forever, but if we were at that point China would have tried triggering it already.
Maybe the F-35 is as worthless as rumor would have it, and the Patriot stopped being a cost effective alternative to drones some time ago, but for now the US has a fighting military, as does Russia. No one will think these Chinese military is impressive until they use it.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 21 2025 21:35 utc | 51
Posted by: Timur | Sep 21 2025 20:11 utc | 45
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I recommend you give up caffeine.
Russia and China are going to starve America out.
The Yanks will surrender when their society completely collapses.
No need for shock and awe.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 21 2025 21:44 utc | 52
“European citizens are ready to sacrifice their quality of life for the sake of defeating and plundering Russia.
So they will improve their military capabilities very soon.
Posted by: vargas”
Sort of. Europeans will sacrifice everything under the right circumstances.
Plunder, no. National salvation? Yes.
So if victory comes with plunder, er reparations so be it.
It’s the salvation part, it doesn’t work if your the Mongols. Russia has to be the aggressor or propaganda will just make people secretly roll their eyes and then you’ll have to start making them do things, instead of reaping the rewards of their 100% dedication to victory. Sure you can make them salute but you can’t know what they don’t care to do. Saying meh why bother is a powerful drag on productivity.
Hence every provocation under the sun make Russia act out. Invading Ukraine was a great start, and now with the all of a sudden errant drones and ominous article IV meetings.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Sep 21 2025 21:57 utc | 53
the US has a fighting military
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 21 2025 21:35 utc | 51
All well and good, but the original concept was
Europe will eventually develop efficient military production if not stopped.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 21 2025 16:39 utc | 12
So, somehow, the discussion has gone from European military capabilities to US military capabilities.
How did that happen?
Neither militaries have hypersonic capabilities in production, or combat-proven… never mind any interception ability.
Who really has the upper hand here?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 22:10 utc | 54
@47 unimperator.
Yup transnistria is a lost cause. The only question I got is if Russia put some of the arsenal under buildings and set a fuse to it.
It’s death sentence was signed a long time ago. Russia has had no way to reinforce it for years now. It may even just be surrendered by the locals as I’m not even sure the Russian forces there constitute a force. Ive heard nothing about them or statements of defiance from transnistria.
It’s interesting nonetheless.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Sep 21 2025 22:14 utc | 55
Borzzikman has been accurate in his news but tends to sensationalize some details. What probably happened was a satellite belonging to a NATO country was disabled by Russian tactics which forced the owner to crash it than allow it to be used against their will. NATO as an organization does not have any satellites now. Instead individual NATO states operate their satellites which is also interesting. Their individual national interests are far more important than NATO collective interests! A sign of a collapsing old and outdated organization.
Posted by: Jason | Sep 21 2025 22:15 utc | 56
European citizens are ready to sacrifice their quality of life for the sake of defeating and plundering Russia.
So they will improve their military capabilities very soon.
Posted by: vargas | Sep 21 2025 18:51 utc | 32
So wrong on this one. How will they improve their military capablities?
They don’t build anything anymore. The US has only substandard weaponry (compared to Russia, China, etal). And that’s if the substandard weaponry is even in stock, which right now, it isn’t.
Why do they send you here to promote their wretched dreams, vargas? Is the pay good? Or better yet, is the currency you’re being paid in worth anything? Are you stacking yet?
Posted by: Nooneuknow | Sep 21 2025 22:18 utc | 57
Neither militaries have hypersonic capabilities in production, or combat-proven… never mind any interception ability.
Who really has the upper hand here?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 21 2025 22:10 utc | 54
Ballistic missiles absolutely have hypersonic capability- much more so than the Oreshnik does. Neither America or Russia can ever truly deter that kind of attack with anything short of MAD. There are simply too many warheads.
Anyways, it’s true that I’m moving the goalposts a bit. Europe having significant and efficient military production isn’t likely, never mind their chances of victory, and it’s quite possible that President Trump is betting on that. But Ukraine didn’t collapse in a year (or four). It would be folly for Russia to assume Europe itself is further down the path of destruction.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 21 2025 22:29 utc | 58
Anyone who doesn’t have excellent relations with China will not be building any military capacity.
The US and EU are screwed.
China owns the factories and the supply chains. What China doesn’t have, Russia does.
Everyone else is scrounging for crumbs.
The balance of power has flipped. Every Western munition expended cannot be replaced quickly.
Wait until ships are lost. Western shipbuilding is not even a joke.
Logistics are everything in sustained peer conflict.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 21 2025 22:47 utc | 59
European citizens are ready to sacrifice their quality of life for the sake of defeating and plundering Russia.
So they will improve their military capabilities very soon.
Posted by: vargas | Sep 21 2025 18:51 utc | 32
STOP TALKIN FUCKIN BOLLOX. European citizens havent a clue to whats going on. How can they be “ready to sacrifice” when they don’t know what theyre sacrificing for?
Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 21 2025 22:58 utc | 60
Its just endless cope and triangulation and improvisation on the part of the West. The hand of the fascists grows weaker day by day. When they try to corral their broken economies and force the restive populations to fight Russia they’ll instead find themselves embroiled in civil unrest the likes of which only fiction has been written. They could work in a cooperative fashion but that would involve compromise of which they are utterly incapable. Thus, well before it would have been ordained, their castles made of sand will crumble into the sea.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 21 2025 23:57 utc | 61
Today is canonization of Saint Charlie day. Pope Impotus is giving the crowd his blessings.
We now have to accept that the Lord on high with the white beard behind the clouds is purely Right Wing. Forget that radical Leftist Jesus.
Posted by: George | Sep 22 2025 1:05 utc | 62
DJT is mixing up the Kool-Aid he wants others to drink first.
But guess what…Lady vdL refuses to take a sip: “The EU as a bloc will chart its own course as far as sanctions against India and Russia are concerned.”
Meaning: the EU will *not* impose 100% tariffs, as DJT had tried to bully them into doing, in his If you do it, I’ll do it parlay.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 22 2025 1:42 utc | 63
Meaning: the EU will *not* impose 100% tariffs, as DJT had tried to bully them into doing, in his If you do it, I’ll do it parlay.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 22 2025 1:42 utc | 64
First, she’s an imbecile: the United States would cheerfully go back to H1Bs and low tariffs on India if Europe is a major client of “Indian” oil. Secondly, she’s likely lying: mostly because her lips are moving, but especially because she already said sanctions are in the works!
https://www.rt.com/news/624915-eu-new-russia-sanctions/
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 22 2025 1:50 utc | 64
Russia’s bumbling SloMO continues to keep civilians in the crosshairs.
The Russian Ministry of Defense has confirmed a deliberate terrorist attack carried out by the Kyiv regime on civilian targets in Crimea.
Two people are currently known to have been killed. As previously reported, 15 people were injured.
@voenkorKotenok
Posted by: MiniMO | Sep 22 2025 1:57 utc | 65
Russia’s bumbling SloMO continues to keep civilians in the crosshairs.
The Russian Ministry of Defense has confirmed a deliberate terrorist attack carried out by the Kyiv regime on civilian targets in Crimea.
Two people are currently known to have been killed. As previously reported, 15 people were injured.
@voenkorKotenok
Posted by: MiniMO | Sep 22 2025 1:59 utc | 66
Posted by: MiniMO | Sep 22 2025 1:57 utc | 66
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You’re one of those, “she’s asking for it wearing a miniskirt” guys.
Russia’s civilians are being targeted by your Nazis.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 22 2025 2:01 utc | 67
Godawful to hear of Ukraine’s attack on Crimea’s resort municipality of Yalta w/ war-head armed drones on 21 September.
Of all the peninsula’s crown jewels, Yalta is an undisputed diamond.
(The drones fell on Foros, which borders Sevastopol within the Yalta municipality, one-time shore-side location of Gorbachev’s dacha. Damage to buildings/no casualties.)
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 22 2025 2:02 utc | 68
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 22 2025 2:02 utc | 69
RE: amend that: 2 civilians killed in Yalta
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correcting #69
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 22 2025 2:03 utc | 69
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 22 2025 2:02 utc | 69
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 22 2025 2:03 utc | 70
RE: attack on Yalta
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Martyanov is reporting at least 15 civilians killed in the Yalta municipality of Foros just south of Sevastopol.
NATO getting frisky.
Reminiscent of the ATACMS launch against beachgoers on a Crimean beach during the time of Collective Biden, June 2024.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 22 2025 2:20 utc | 70
Alexander Mercouris
https://www.youtube.com/@AlexMercouris/videos
“Zelensky wants urgent Trump talks; Fronts collapse; Stubb: West must fight Russia.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 22 2025 2:39 utc | 71
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 22 2025 2:39 utc | 72
“Stubb: West must fight Russia.”
Note the operative word ‘West’. Why not him or his own country Finland? It seems to me that Euro-NATO leaders are all doing the same thing, and that is running to a microphone to make hairy chested announcements, but hoping some other country will take the risk and do something – just so long as it is not their own.
Posted by: George | Sep 22 2025 2:53 utc | 72
Posted by: George | Sep 22 2025 1:05 utc | 63
“Today is canonization of Saint Charlie day. Pope Impotus is giving the crowd his blessings.
We now have to accept that the Lord on high with the white beard behind the clouds is purely Right Wing. Forget that radical Leftist Jesus.”
You are bordering on being Antisemitic George [/S].
Jesus was almost certainly-with a high level of real data- a committed bleeding heart Humanitarian Communist. An affront to the true Holy Order.
Posted by: Barrel Brown | Sep 22 2025 3:02 utc | 73
Posted by: Barrel Brown | Sep 22 2025 3:02 utc | 74
Yes he lived in a commune with the Essenes for a start.
He would have certainly be censored today.
Luke 6:20-21
Then he looked up at his disciples and said: ‘Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God. Blessed are you who are hungry now, for you will be filled. Blessed are you who weep now, for you will laugh.’
Luke 4:16-19
When he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, he went to the synagogue on the sabbath day, as was his custom. He stood up to read, and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written: ‘The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to bring good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favour.’
Matthew 25:34-36
Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’
Mark 10:21-22
Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said, ‘You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.’ When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions.
Mark 12:41-44
He sat down opposite the treasury, and watched the crowd putting money into the treasury. Many rich people put in large sums. A poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which are worth a penny. Then he called his disciples and said to them, ‘Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the treasury. For all of them have contributed out of their abundance; but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on.’
Luke 14:12-14
He said also to the one who had invited him, ‘When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, in case they may invite you in return, and you would be repaid. But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, and the blind. And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you, for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.’
Luke 16:19-25
There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate lay a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who longed to satisfy his hunger with what fell from the rich man’s table; even the dogs would come and lick his sores. The poor man died and was carried away by the angels to be with Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried.
Luke 11:39-42
Then the Lord said to him, ‘Now you Pharisees clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside you are full of greed and wickedness. You fools! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also? So give for alms those things that are within; and see, everything will be clean for you. But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and herbs of all kinds, and neglect justice and the love of God.’
Luke 12:16-21
Then he told them a parable: ‘The land of a rich man produced abundantly. And he thought to himself, ‘What should I do, for I have no place to store my crops?’ Then he said, ‘I will do this: I will pull down my barns and build larger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. And I will say to my soul, ‘Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; relax, eat, drink, be merry.’ But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life is being demanded of you. And the things you have prepared, whose will they be?’ So it is with those who store up treasures for themselves but are not rich toward God.’
Posted by: George | Sep 22 2025 3:17 utc | 74
Posted by: George | Sep 22 2025 1:05 utc | 63
“Today is canonization of Saint Charlie day. Pope Impotus is giving the crowd his blessings.
We now have to accept that the Lord on high with the white beard behind the clouds is purely Right Wing. Forget that radical Leftist Jesus.”
You are bordering on being Antisemitic George [/S].
Jesus was almost certainly-with a high level of real data- a committed bleeding heart Humanitarian Communist. An affront to the true Holy Order.
Posted by: Barrel Brown | Sep 22 2025 3:02 utc | 74
You guys both got it wrong. Jesus wasn’t a political figure. He said a number of times that he was God, and God is above politics. You don’t get to vote for or against God; he is who he is.
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 22 2025 3:18 utc | 75
The anthropomorphization of God and Christ are some of the dumbest things about Christianity.
Believers have been repeatedly warned not to engage in it. The second commandment specifically.
We (the creation) cannot identify with or identify the creator.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 22 2025 3:25 utc | 76
If someone posted this this story about Russia placing the “international Satanist movement” on their list of groups whose money they can seize.
The article mocks Russia’s decision, but it has significant implications. The occult motivation of certain groups opposing Russia have been mentioned here from time to time. This is the first time Russia has publicly stated they are aware of occult groups who are behind the governments behind the Ukraine war. An appreciation for the existence of these groups helps link the war in Ukraine with Israel. I was shocked to discover the worship of Baal and Ashtaroth, Old Testament child sacrificing cults, continues today in the leadership of Israel. I suspect these ancient cults aren’t limited to Israel, but have persisted in Europe from pre-Christian times. Apparently, the Russian government has identified these cult groups as major players in the European / U.S. hostility towards Russia.
While I applaud Russia for intending to go after the money behind the governments, I can’t see anything good for Russia. These occult families and groups are among the richest people in the world with wealth in the trillions of dollars. They can buy and sell governments, government agencies (FBI, MI6, CIA, etc.). Their personal security details rival many state militaries. I suspect much of the theft of national government money exposed in the first two months of Trump’s time in office was funneled into these occult believers’ bank accounts. That means, they could have been siphoning trillions of dollars a year from the United States economy. With that amount of wealth, I would not be surprised if they had personal nuclear arsenals. This would also explain the comments made by people close President Trump that he is obviously deathly afraid of something, but has so far not said what it is. I suspect he knows if some of these families / groups thought they were threatened, they could unleash immense violence.
Like I said, the Russian government is taking a major risk here, but I don’t think they have a choice. They have now named their true adversary.
Posted by: Nobody Special | Sep 22 2025 3:35 utc | 77
Re: Posted by: unimperator | Sep 21 2025 20:39 utc | 47
In fact, as far back as 2022, British and Ukrainian intelligence operatives were spotted shuttling along the Kiev–Odesa–Chișinău axis, laying the groundwork for precisely the kind of provocation now being readied.
What we’re witnessing here is the engineered suicide of Moldova, orchestrated not in Chișinău, but in London, Washington, and Brussels. This isn’t a defense plan, it’s a martyrdom script, with Maia Sandu cast as the sacrificial priestess, ushering her people into a furnace they never voted for.
Let’s be brutally honest: Moldova is being turned into a proxy-springboard for NATO’s dead-end fantasies. Not for freedom. Not for democracy. But to draw Russian blood, weaken Moscow’s buffer zone, and send yet another message to the “Global South” that Western hegemony will not go quietly.
And yet again, it is the Ukrainian army, bleeding and broken, that will be used like mercenary cannon fodder to front this aggression,joined this time by Romanian HIMARS and British SOF, all hiding behind the fig leaf of Moldovan sovereignty.
https://x.com/SMO_VZ/status/1969544332051923045
Russia has had 3.5 years to provide a protective field to Transdnistria.
What are they waiting for?
If any Russian aligned folks in Transdnistria suffer because of this dilly-dallying “SloMO” – they know exactly who to blame for their extreme tardiness.
Posted by: Julian | Sep 22 2025 3:52 utc | 78
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 22 2025 3:18 utc | 76
Paranaense, your knowledge of the Bible is far greater than mine — could you give us the number of times that Jesus said he was God, and the number for the times he said he was the Son of Man?
It’s only the latter that sticks in my mind.
thanks.
Posted by: Steve from oz | Sep 22 2025 3:59 utc | 79
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 22 2025 3:25 utc | 77
“Believers have been repeatedly warned not to engage in it. The second commandment specifically.”
Seems you haven’t read much of what Jesus said. Here’s a few significant statements:
When Mary and Joseph found Jesus in the Temple (after searching for 3 days) Mary said “Son, why have you treated us so? Behold, your father and I have been searching for you in great distress.” And he said to them, “Why were you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father’s house?” (Luke 2:48 & 49)
When the religious officials asked Jesus if he was the Christ (the Messiah) he answered “I and the Father are one.” (John 10:30)
When his disciple Phillip asked Jesus if the disciples would get to see God the Father, Jesus said “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?” (John 14:9)
There are many more places where Jesus claimed to be God, but I won’t post them all because this is the Ukraine thread. However, you should refrain from speaking about things which you don’t know, especially when your claims are so easily disproven. Maybe you should stick with what you know.
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 22 2025 4:34 utc | 80
Posted by: Steve from oz | Sep 22 2025 3:59 utc | 80
“Paranaense, your knowledge of the Bible is far greater than mine — could you give us the number of times that Jesus said he was God, and the number for the times he said he was the Son of Man?
It’s only the latter that sticks in my mind.
thanks.
I did an AI search (lazy me) and it said 17 times Jesus claimed to be the Son of God. I could probably find more if I counted the times he implied it. He references his Son of Man title to emphasize his humanity. Christian theology holds that Christ has a dual nature, both God and man– rather than God who came down and put on a human disguise for a short time.
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 22 2025 4:46 utc | 81
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 22 2025 3:18 utc | 76
Don’t blame us, there are plenty of Right wing US politicians including your precious Donald that use their own concept of a Christian God to push as much as they can. In fact with Donald it is like he is God’s representative himself on occasion. As usual you push blame onto the wrong people entirely. Read the quotes I merely cut and pasted.
Posted by: George | Sep 22 2025 4:48 utc | 82
“We (the creation) cannot identify with or identify the creator.”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 22 2025 3:25 utc | 77
Tell that to Donald and the rest of the US politicians who milk their twisted view of Christian religion and God as much as they can, mainly to promote their own successes, despite the stunning hypocrisy they display.
Posted by: George | Sep 22 2025 4:54 utc | 83
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 22 2025 4:34 utc | 81
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The New Testament is all second-hand hearsay. None of it claims to be Revelation or passes the scrutiny Muslims subject to hadiths (thoughts and observed actions of the Prophet SAW).
There is the word of God, and then the word of man.
The Commandments were Revelations provided to Moses directly by God. The Bible is a collection of commentary from Jesus’s companions. Clearly, Peter, Paul, etc., are not as authoritative as God itself.
Imagine believing in something that the Romans modified to create an Imperial religion, tacking on pagan holidays and practices so that people would not be disturbed in their ancestral beliefs once they were conquered.
Anyway, do carry on. Christianity is a massive and fruitless discussion for me these days.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 22 2025 5:01 utc | 84
Posted by: George | Sep 22 2025 4:48 utc | 83
“Don’t blame us, there are plenty of Right wing US politicians including your precious Donald that use their own concept of a Christian God to push as much as they can. In fact with Donald it is like he is God’s representative himself on occasion. As usual you push blame onto the wrong people entirely.”
I’m not blaming anyone of anything, just pointing out how your view of Jesus differs from what he said about himself. And yes, all politicians (including DJT) tend to wrap themselves in the flag and wear the halo of divine approval to bolster themselves. This is nothing new. I still believe that he’s a better president than Kamala would have been, but I’m not going to worship him.
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 22 2025 5:04 utc | 85
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 22 2025 5:04 utc | 86
“your view of Jesus differs from what he said about himself”
I have given no view of Jesus, I merely put up some direct quotes from the Bible. I will say however that according to the original historical views of what the Left stood for, he would certainly not be considered Right wing in giving thought to any of those quotes.
If he was an Essene he certainly would have been connected with people living in a commune near the Dead Sea. That’s all I alluded to.
I suggest you take a look at Earl Doherty’s research where he argues that the Jesus in the Bible is a composite figure made up of at least 4 sources, and was never a single person. He actually argues that one of those was political and wanting to get rid of the Roman dominance in the region at the time. He would argue against your view. The fact is there is very little evidence for the existence of Jesus anyway, so there has been enormous debate about who he was and where he came from beyond what the Bible says.
https://www.jesuspuzzle.com/jesuspuzzle/index.htm
Posted by: George | Sep 22 2025 5:25 utc | 86
I still believe that he’s a better president than Kamala would have been, but I’m not going to worship him.
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 22 2025 5:04 utc | 86
Far be it for me to ask questions or demand answers, but as a thought exercise, how about laying out some *actual* *material* ways you think that Trump is better than a Kopmala presidency – especially considering that Trump still has yet to match Obama’s prodigious deportation numbers.
Economy? Inflation? Tangible metrics of any kind? Manufacturing jobs? Grocery prices?
LOL because frankly I think you must be a Zionist. They’re the only winners as far as I can see with this Trump regime. But you have the floor…will you take it? Please just admit it if you’re a Zionist (or Jew) – we’ll respect you much more for it, trust me.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 22 2025 5:33 utc | 87
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 22 2025 4:46 utc | 82
Using “AI” to come to that determination as an alleged MAGA America First Christian backer of the Trump administration?
LOL bro you’re shedding credibility faster than the Israeli attack boats launching torpedoes at the USS Liberty or the dancing fools employed by “Urban Moving Systems” did when they got caught with explosive residues and fake passports in the wake of 9/11.
Is that YOU NuttinYahoo?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 22 2025 5:35 utc | 88
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 22 2025 5:33 utc | 88
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Trump has been great. The Chinese call him Comrade Trump on their social media for all he has done for the Chinese economy.
I don’t think Kamala would have been so progressive.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 22 2025 5:37 utc | 89
I don’t think Kamala would have been so progressive.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 22 2025 5:37 utc | 90
LOL exactly! 😅😅
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 22 2025 5:40 utc | 90
On another topic, but not really, I’m sure glad that Gruff has fully admitted he’s on the side of genocidal Zionists. Because, after all, only Biden was Genocide Joe. Genocide Don simply inherited the other coach’s star players and picked up the ball to run with it. Don is never genocidal. Never. And Gruff will go to bat for that.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 22 2025 5:43 utc | 91
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 22 2025 5:37 utc | 90
Making Asia Great Again = MAGA
Posted by: George | Sep 22 2025 5:44 utc | 92
Still no defense of Trump’s treatment or successes of/with:
*The economy – near or mid-term?
*Ending the war in Ukraine or the genocide in Gaza?
*Trade “imbalances” and bring mfg. back to Merikah?
*International law, media censorship or reining in globalists?
*Epstein and international Jew-Evangelical sex trafficking or blackmail?
*The massive deficit and military budgets or the $10Bn+ per year sent to Isra-Hell from Americans when out infrastructure crumbles, social safety net frays (by intent), and hucksters and goons (like the Trumps) make billions on IPOs of shitcoins and memecoins?
*LOL – but it’s time to own the libz amirite, ZioGruff* and c1ue and Parenense, and Brennan? Nothing else is wrong!
*Gruff has either been a long term Israeli plant or a cognitive dissonance fake Marxist angry white male incel here to sow dissonance (albeit as a pretty FUNNY guy!)
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 22 2025 5:52 utc | 93
Neither Trump nor Kamala were capable of any genuinely significant change towards the better for the US. They are both rotten apples, so it was a choice for Americans to vote in one of two candidates for president that would still represent the monoparty, deep state (including MIC, mega-corporations, banks and WALL St.), neocons, CIA, and Zionists, and above all, promotion of themselves and access to easy money as well. Hardly exciting. Trump has accidently helped BRICS, Russia, and China, Kamala would have been representing the same Zionist neocons as Biden and they are in both sides of politics. It then becomes just a question of which war and in what country they would have chosen to manifest.
Posted by: George | Sep 22 2025 6:01 utc | 94
Ivor Cummins and Alex Krainer had an excellent discussion about the causes of this war and other wars. I’ve put the link below if you want to listen in – well worth it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VwNNPNL-KKc
Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Sep 22 2025 6:30 utc | 95
So, I think that continuity of agenda is a real thing.
Not every President is the same, so, they probably get a little leeway on domestic issues.
If Trump wanted to immortalize Rush Limbaugh on a stamp, he would’ve allowed to do so.
But withdrawing from Syria in 2016? No way, Jose.
Kamala would have been like Biden who was like Trump 1.0, who was like Obama.
Interestingly, Trump has focused on economics and diplomacy, neither are a strength. He might have been a good ribbon cutting, infrastructure President, but the areas he’s focused on are huge weaknesses for him.
I wonder what others think. Do TPTB not care that Trump is making a schmozzle of the Empire’s economic might and prestige?
Are they incompetent? Are they clueless?
If someone with real power (someone who can actually say no to Bibi) wanted to stop what Trump is doing, they could easily.
And yet he’s being allowed to collapse America, militarily and economically.
I think that is weird.
At some point, the plans for continuity surely require economic and kinetic power.
Your thoughts?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 22 2025 6:39 utc | 96
Maybe I can give you a clue here (or maybe not):
I voted for Trump this last time.
Not because I thought he’d be any better than K. Harris.
I thought he might be the one more likely to hasten the end of the Hegemonic Empire.
Not by design, of course.
But now I’m wondering if he’s even competent to accomplish that (unwittingly, of course).
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 22 2025 6:50 utc | 97
always illuminating to see anti-Christians posting here in a transparent attempt at divide and rule.
Arch must be correct in his assessment that unit 8200 was devestated last June. They are short of talent these days.
Posted by: exile | Sep 22 2025 6:52 utc | 98
I’m anti-Christian myself (though I’m an equal-opportunity h8r: I hate all religions equally.)
So what’s so all-fired great about Xtianity that we’re supposed to grovel before it?
When have its tenets been honored in anything but the breach?
And what the actual fuck does that have anything to do with the proxy war in Ukraine?
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 22 2025 7:09 utc | 100