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September 18, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-213
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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So, Trump went back not only to Biden’s cabinet weapons supply policy, but also back to Biden’s rhetoric. Posted by: boneless | Sep 18 2025 16:11 utc | 1 Bidens rhetoric, but European money and Ukrainian lives. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Sep 18 2025 16:26 utc | 2 NATO, led by the U.S., did not have an exit plan, should Project Ukraine bottom out. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 18 2025 16:32 utc | 3 Posted by: boneless | Sep 18 2025 16:11 utc | 1 Posted by: scc | Sep 18 2025 17:06 utc | 4 steel_porcupine@3…..there is no 404 President to resign…..this just means Britkrainia will attack Russia well into the foreseeable future. All this talk of victory this and that, lots of shadow fleet vessels to steal, free oil, grain, chemicals, what ever they wish to confiscate. No shortage of juicy targets for the Brits to blow up in Russia, and now the Trumpty Dumpty is back flogging weapons of mass killing to the EU to give to 404 to blow up Russia……I don’t see Russia wiggling out of this anytime soon. They have been dragging their heals, something about Partners, anyway Russia can blow up stuff as we see, with little or no result outside 404……and that has Russia right where the Brits want them….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 18 2025 17:39 utc | 5 Russia vs NATO Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Sep 18 2025 17:40 utc | 6 Brits will be paying for this for a long time. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 18 2025 17:50 utc | 7 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 18 2025 17:39 utc | 5 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 18 2025 18:15 utc | 8 Not to worry most of the really valuable mineral reserves are in the territory already controlled by the RF. Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 18 2025 18:15 utc | 9 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 18 2025 17:50 utc | 7 Posted by: Passerby | Sep 18 2025 18:32 utc | 10 Look at it this way: Posted by: Passerby | Sep 18 2025 18:34 utc | 11 Posted by: Passerby | Sep 18 2025 18:34 utc | 11 Posted by: Macpott | Sep 18 2025 18:43 utc | 12 Russia wants to seize Novorossiya, about 500,000 square kilometer in size. Posted by: hopehely | Sep 18 2025 18:53 utc | 13 @11 Passersby…You’re being too logical. They, our miserable leaders, are trapped in their own narrative. To let go means political suicide and worse, accountability. The latter is the worst outcome for them Posted by: Judge Barbier | Sep 18 2025 19:00 utc | 14 @ sean the leprechaun | Sep 18 2025 17:39 utc | 5 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 18 2025 19:29 utc | 15 Washington is planning to send 33,000 AI-controlled drones to Ukraine with plans to later upgrade them using swarm technology, the Financial Times has reported. Posted by: Jo | Sep 18 2025 20:03 utc | 16 “sean the leprechaun hasn’t understood this” – for the last 3½ years… Posted by: Naive | Sep 18 2025 20:11 utc | 17 This could get messy for Zelensky, bearing in mind that both NABU and SAPO are Western-sponsored and supervised organisations:
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/ukraine/1758205508-plivki-mindicha-vidkrili-konflikt-na-nayvishchomu-rivni-protistoyannya-z-nabu-zagostryuetsya (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 18 2025 20:18 utc | 18 this guy maintains that russia cannot last another year, is steadily losing ground economically and even militarily: Posted by: pastor | Sep 18 2025 20:19 utc | 19 @ pastor | Sep 18 2025 20:19 utc | 19
Frankly this immediately says everything anyone needs to know. Posted by: boneless | Sep 18 2025 20:30 utc | 20
Posted by: pastor | Sep 18 2025 20:19 utc | 19 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 18 2025 20:31 utc | 21 Just another day at the bar. Posted by: Micron | Sep 18 2025 20:32 utc | 22 “This could get messy for Zelensky, bearing in mind that both NABU and SAPO are Western-sponsored and supervised organisations: Posted by: Micron | Sep 18 2025 20:34 utc | 23 @Micron | Sep 18 2025 20:32 utc | 22 Posted by: NoName | Sep 18 2025 20:37 utc | 24
Posted by: Micron | Sep 18 2025 20:32 utc | 22 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 18 2025 20:42 utc | 25 @ NoName | Sep 18 2025 20:37 utc | 24 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 18 2025 20:44 utc | 26
Might be churlish to point this out, but the piece I quoted comes from a Ukrainian outlet… Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 18 2025 20:49 utc | 27 Posted by: boneless | Sep 18 2025 20:30 utc | 20 Posted by: pastor | Sep 18 2025 20:55 utc | 28 @Micron | Thu, 18 Sep 2025 20:32:00 GMT | 22 Posted by: persiflo | Sep 18 2025 21:10 utc | 29 It’s a bot. This was done the exact same thing before. Did they ran out of ideas? Posted by: boneless | Sep 18 2025 21:15 utc | 30
Posted by: pastor | Sep 18 2025 20:55 utc | 28 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 18 2025 21:15 utc | 31 Ukraine changing law to draft 60+ old men and women between 18 to 24 years old. Posted by: azeclecticdog | Sep 18 2025 21:50 utc | 32 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 18 2025 19:29 utc | 15 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Sep 18 2025 21:55 utc | 33 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 18 2025 21:15 utc | 31 Posted by: pastor | Sep 18 2025 21:55 utc | 34 Posted by: Micron | Sep 18 2025 20:32 utc | 22 Posted by: ElGordo | Sep 18 2025 21:57 utc | 35
Posted by: pastor | Sep 18 2025 21:55 utc | 34 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 18 2025 22:06 utc | 36 Posted by: boneless | Sep 18 2025 21:15 utc | 30 Posted by: Hiro Masamune | Sep 18 2025 22:12 utc | 37 China, Russia and Iran should supply drones, explosives and submersible weapons to Venezuela. USA is trying to grab its oil resources. Posted by: Jason | Sep 18 2025 22:23 utc | 38 Anyone got any serious analysis of this author’s work??? https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-frontline-report-september-ca0 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 18 2025 22:40 utc | 39 USA has been trying to retake Afghanistan’s Bagram airbase since losing the war in 2021. Posted by: Jason | Sep 18 2025 22:42 utc | 40 Human beings have short lives and their memory is deficient: what human beings call “history” is a fiction, a pretense, a “story” without facts to support it. Posted by: Esophagus | Sep 18 2025 22:46 utc | 41 I hope that the human, that I’m, have the honest hope to be brave enough to recognize the bad feelings, the hypocrisy and the failure. Posted by: Esophagus | Sep 18 2025 23:02 utc | 42 https://blog.algora.com/2025/09/05/is-russia-really-winning-in-ukraine Posted by: Oberbayer | Sep 18 2025 23:09 utc | 43 Oberbayer | Sep 18 2025 23:09 utc | 43 Posted by: Esophagus | Sep 18 2025 23:18 utc | 44 @ Posted by: Oberbayer | Sep 18 2025 23:09 utc | 43
The only thing that metally ill provocauter can report from prison is what kind of meatloaf he had this morning. Yet, this deranged idiot continues his crusade to discredit military and civilian authorities in time of war, endlessly feeding his guillable sect of followers prophecies of inevitable doom. Unless, of course he becomes President to avert disaster. Because only he knows the “truth” no one else is capable of seeing. Russia’s history is chock full of such despicable characters. Posted by: taukey | Sep 18 2025 23:34 utc | 45 Only a very deranged brain would think about a RF submission. Posted by: Esophagus | Sep 18 2025 23:54 utc | 46 Jason@38……Russia China and Iran have issues taking care of themselves. Why get dragged into a war in a place on the other side of the Globe, be like NATO going anywhere outside Europe, Afghanistan comes to mind……they can terrorize Russia all day long, no shortage of Ukie saps willing to die for the cause…..but Venezuela would have all three literally out of their depth….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 19 2025 0:14 utc | 47 Disagree Steel P 8, Posted by: S Brennan | Sep 19 2025 0:59 utc | 48 Nobody is better than you. Posted by: Esophagus | Sep 19 2025 1:15 utc | 49 Eventually Ukraine will be forced to surrender, and when the front line begins to collapse, I think it will go pretty quickly. Some appear to think Europe can go on indefinitely attacking Russia through Ukraine, but if Ukraine is squeezed into unconditional surrender, it must accept whatever terms are offered. One of the terms could easily be that further attacks from a Ukraine which has capitulated will be regarded and punished as terrorism, since Ukraine has surrendered and officially agreed to stop carrying out armed attacks against Russia by whatever means. It would be a little different recruiting in Ukraine if those captured by Russia in the conduct of such attacks were hung at the border. Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Sep 18 2025 17:40 utc | 6 “Russia has this war well won.” Posted by: ed4 | Sep 19 2025 1:26 utc | 51 If the US joins Eastern Sentry then it is a declaration of war. I watched for a signal from Trump on his jaunt with tech mates to London but didn’t pick up anything new. Posted by: Bingo | Sep 19 2025 1:45 utc | 52 pastor | Sep 18 2025 21:55 utc | 34 Posted by: Not PeterAu | Sep 19 2025 1:46 utc | 53 Oh dear. I forgot the upcoming UN vote on Palestine statehood rwhich will surely stress Trump out as well. Posted by: Bingo | Sep 19 2025 1:54 utc | 54 @ Posted by: ed4 | Sep 19 2025 1:26 utc | 51
Considering that “Ukraine” is a fig leaf for collective West, its entire industrial-scientific-military potential of 1 bln civilization, it’s pretty sad and pathetic that hitting odd refineries here and there is all they could do, don’t you think? All those fancy cruise missiles, satellite constellations, Top Gun Mavericks and all they can really muster is few plastic models with TNT. Posted by: taukey | Sep 19 2025 1:57 utc | 55 To everyone saying ukraine is ready to collapse once this objective is taken Russia can race to the border, you are wrong. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Sep 19 2025 2:39 utc | 56 Message to B or his moderators: Posted by: pastor | Sep 19 2025 2:43 utc | 57 Carney’s slava urkrazi creature chrystia back working hard at being up to no good… Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 19 2025 3:39 utc | 58 No Opposition in German Parliament To Chancellor Merz’s War & Austerity Policies Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 19 2025 4:17 utc | 59 On the last thread. Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 18 2025 21:02 utc | 97 provided link to 26 minute interview with prof. Ari Ben-Menashe former Israeli Intelligence officer and Emeritus at Harvard.. Posted by: snake | Sep 19 2025 4:40 utc | 60 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 18 2025 22:40 utc | 39 Posted by: Paco | Sep 19 2025 5:07 utc | 61 To Snake. Posted by: Bingo | Sep 19 2025 5:20 utc | 62 Second time VVP has dressed up in military uniform, this time at Zapad 2025. Posted by: Suresh | Sep 19 2025 5:20 utc | 63 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 18 2025 17:50 utc | 7 Posted by: llowed | Sep 19 2025 6:10 utc | 64 @ taukey | Sep 19 2025 1:57 utc | 55 Posted by: robin | Sep 19 2025 6:40 utc | 65 And the Russian idiot Putin lets other important utility companies be set on fire every day because his “slow strategy” gives the West time to respond with ever stronger missiles. What a complete idiot, this faggot failure Putin.. and the Putin lovers here still believe, that this his brilliant strategy to fight slow will help him to win.. Posted by: joe911 | Sep 19 2025 6:44 utc | 66 It needs to be realized nato soldiers or mercenaries can form drone teams indefinitely. Posted by: Passerby | Sep 19 2025 6:46 utc | 67 .”On the Ukraine war, Merz threatened that for his government, no peace could be considered ‘at the expense of the political sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine.'” Posted by: jpc | Sep 19 2025 6:58 utc | 68
That “author” is you and this is shameless advertising for run-of-the-mill shit we don’t want. Go ask reddit to comment on your chatGPT “essay”, you won’t get clicks here. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 19 2025 7:20 utc | 69 According to globalpetrolprices, correlation between Russian gasoline and diesel prices is 0.96. The last three months, Russian diesel price has increased 0.8%, gasoline price 3.2%. Posted by: Passerby | Sep 19 2025 7:26 utc | 70 Passerby @ 70, these threads grow so fast it’s just about impossible to go back a few days and find a quote. That’s the problem with off-topic rantings and general thread bloat. Flat view display of posts just compounds the problem. Posted by: robin | Sep 19 2025 7:38 utc | 71 I’ve seen it with every Russian advance, initial thrusts quickly stop. They try lots of different areas its all the same drone saturation and Russia can’t stop the deliveries or drone teams setting up shop, not enough anyways. There must be hundreds of Ukrainian drone teams deployed and I’ve seen only a few dozen grainy videos of strikes on them. Posted by: America is defeated | Sep 19 2025 7:55 utc | 72 Talking about fuel shortages – Germany is suffering fuel shortages at its major airports. Germany is the laughing stock of the world. Projection much? Posted by: unimperator | Sep 19 2025 8:26 utc | 73 According to globalpetrolprices, correlation between Russian gasoline and diesel prices is 0.96. The last three months, Russian diesel price has increased 0.8%, gasoline price 3.2%. Posted by: Genesis | Sep 19 2025 9:04 utc | 74
I sincerely believe that “this guy” that pastor referred to with the substrack account is no other than pastor himself. It’s a sales trick. Posted by: Avtonom | Sep 19 2025 9:55 utc | 76
Marat! that’s my man. Posted by: Avtonom | Sep 19 2025 10:00 utc | 77 There must be hundreds of Ukrainian drone teams deployed and I’ve seen only a few dozen grainy videos of strikes on them. Posted by: NoName | Sep 19 2025 10:34 utc | 78
Non-Westerners should reply. I, as an German expat, believe it’s true — but it could be that the UK is as much or even more the world’s laughing stock. Posted by: Konami | Sep 19 2025 10:43 utc | 79
Incentives matter … politicians love spending other people’s money … and Merz ain’t too bright by many accounts. Posted by: Tel | Sep 19 2025 10:46 utc | 80 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 18 2025 22:40 utc | 39 Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 19 2025 10:48 utc | 81 Weapons continue to flow into Ukraine. Enough money to pay salaries, pensions, keep the lights on. US continuing massive support to Ukraine. Denmark threatens Kaliningrad with long range missile deployment. Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 19 2025 11:26 utc | 82 Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 19th September 2025: May be Useful to Some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-07c Posted by: The Busker | Sep 19 2025 11:27 utc | 83 Posted by: Tel | Sep 19 2025 10:46 utc | 80 Posted by: Mario | Sep 19 2025 11:33 utc | 84 Posted by: robin | Sep 19 2025 7:38 utc | 71 Posted by: Passerby | Sep 19 2025 11:47 utc | 85 jpc | Sep 19 2025 6:58 utc | 68 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 19 2025 11:48 utc | 86 https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-commission-approves-new-russia-sanctions-package-to-hit-putins-war-chest/ Posted by: Savonarole | Sep 19 2025 12:07 utc | 87 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 19 2025 11:48 utc | 86 Posted by: seer | Sep 19 2025 12:18 utc | 88 Chat NPC @ 81 Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 19 2025 12:23 utc | 89 Chat NPC @ 81 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 19 2025 12:52 utc | 90 Oh, crap ! I just realized that I traveled into the wrong global simulation. In this one, there’s a software error in which no disaster, however great, ever triggers collapse. Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 19 2025 12:52 utc | 91 @ Passerby | Sep 19 2025 11:47 utc | 85 Posted by: robin | Sep 19 2025 12:55 utc | 92 Ukraine is still very very strong. Posted by: vargas | Sep 19 2025 12:56 utc | 93 Jo | Sep 18 2025 20:03 utc | 16
Hold on thar, podner ! Ain’t that a trade embargo ? Ipso facto Poland has declared war on the rest of Yurp ? Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Sep 19 2025 13:05 utc | 94 Posted by: vargas | Sep 19 2025 12:56 utc | 93 Posted by: seer | Sep 19 2025 13:09 utc | 95 Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Sep 19 2025 13:05 utc | 94 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 19 2025 13:18 utc | 96 Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 19 2025 12:23 utc | 89 Posted by: Paco | Sep 19 2025 13:22 utc | 97 Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 19 2025 12:23 utc | 89 Posted by: Paco | Sep 19 2025 13:25 utc | 98 Eighthman@91…..”the collapse” is a running joke, it goes on and on and on, like that song that never ends….great observation on your part….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 19 2025 13:31 utc | 99 in response to #80:
It’s not a contradiction in itself to have both austerity and expanding debt at the same time. Just remember Germany is one of the NATO countries which pledged to contribute 5% of GDP for NATO purposes. Posted by: Chrissie | Sep 19 2025 13:42 utc | 100 |
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