Friday 1.370 AFU casualties
https://tass.com/defense/2016439
Marat post on same advance
https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-frontline-report-september-14a
Today still no numbers but
Kiev troops practically left Kupyansk — official
https://tass.com/politics/2016509
Russian army takes number of new positions east of Sumy’s Yunakovka in one week
https://tass.com/defense/2016533
Russian fighters improve position on approaches to Krasny Liman in one week
https://tass.com/defense/2016575
Russia enveloping Ukrainian forces in Krasnoarmeysk-Dimitrov agglomeration
https://tass.com/defense/2016585
Ukrainian army’s logistics being destroyed in Konstantinovka
https://tass.com/defense/2016591
Russian fighters grinding elite units of Ukrainian army in Dobropolye area
https://tass.com/defense/2016593

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 14 2025 14:01 utc | 4

https://youtu.be/cHVmWpmKfzc?si=knGuAuchdbq12ASc
Ei, Ei, Ei…
Finally even the dumbest of the dumbfucks realize what is going on… That was THE WHOLE PLAN ALL ALONG by the Jewish-Neoliberal Trojan Horse and and his “WESTERN PARTNERS”…OH fuck conspiracies, all I see are conspiracies!
https://youtu.be/tpmY9Rr6OVM?si=jQ8M9R7-Tzi7GopR
https://youtu.be/Lpwb67x_6tc?si=DPkFcyVlOmT0j2yV

Posted by: Brigitte Mohnhaupt | Sep 14 2025 14:10 utc | 6

@7
Appetite for war profits, no talent or appetite for war.

Posted by: paddy | Sep 14 2025 14:22 utc | 8

What was the necessity of throwing Ukraine under the Russian bulldozer when it was possible to build relations with Russia and gradually integrate?
Republicofscotland | Sep 14 2025 14:18 utc | 7
I become ever so slightly frustrated needing to explain over and over again that since debt based systems *must* continuously expand, they face the existentional prospect of a catastrophic deflationary cycle if they fail to do so.
The project Ukraine gambit illustrates perfectly the willingness of Nato to risk the entire legacy of EU cultural, economic and military dominance for the sake of one last mad gamble at seizing Russia’s natural resources in which to collateralize yet another expansionary lending cycle.
If you don’t understand the primary impetus behind this war – in fact, every war, including Palestine – then you will be consigned to continuously search for answers, oftentimes being diverted into petty, simplistic explanations, while not only fully missing the mark, but also unable to project and anticipate other strategic moves clearly telegraphed to those who know what’s happening.

Posted by: Markw | Sep 14 2025 14:49 utc | 10

Markw (10).
Thank you for that comment, you do however see that the article is in inverted commas, so it isn’t mine, I was highlighting the Polish politicians words, I myself am fully aware of why Ukraine was thrown under the bus, but once again thank you for your comment.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 14 2025 15:13 utc | 12

The Neo-Nazi dictatorship in Ukraine, now putting small children on its Mirotvorets hitlist.
“A group of Russian children, the youngest of whom is just three years old, has been targeted by the controversial Mirotvorets (Peacemaker) website, which publishes personal details of individuals it labels as ‘enemies’ of Ukraine.
According to an entry added on September 13, one child born in April 2022 is accused of “conscious violation of the state border” and “encroachment on sovereignty.” On the same day, five other minors aged 5, 9, 10, 12, and 16 were also blacklisted for similar alleged offenses. Earlier this week, a five-year-old and several 11-year-olds were added to the site.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 14 2025 15:29 utc | 14

Markw@10….the Palestinians will be happy you shared that with them….a razed getto, masquerading as a gas can…..at least now they’ll know why they must die…..
Cheers M
….very gracious of you to pass the Palestinian Genocide off as a Resource War…..considering Canada, part of the Realm, floats on oil, gas, diamonds and gold and can’t the Aparthied State just set a up a Reservation system like Canada and just pay the locals their part of the transit fees……of resources extracted…..build a few Casinos…..lots of money to be made off these Genocide Resource Wars….screw that pot of gold shite!

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 14 2025 15:49 utc | 16

Posted by: Brigitte Mohnhaupt | Sep 14 2025 14:10 utc | 6
Finally even the dumbest of the dumbfucks realize what is going on…

So you now finally understand what is going on …

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 14 2025 16:05 utc | 18

@Republicofscotland | Sep 14 2025 15:29 utc | 14

The Neo-Nazi dictatorship in Ukraine, now putting small children on its Mirotvorets hitlist.

The Bandera followers aren’t Neo-Nazis, they are genuine old (WWII style) Nazis.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 14 2025 16:16 utc | 20

Calling All Canadians – This is a Stick-Up for Elbows: Gorilla Radio Asks PM Carney 3 Questions
https://johnhelmer.net/calling-all-canadians-this-is-a-stick-up-for-elbows-gorilla-radio-asks-prime-minister-carney-three-questions/
“1. Has any politician in the NATO Coalition of the Willing warfighters against Russia lied more brazenly to win his domestic election that Mark Carney (not counting Vladimir Zelensky)/
2. Has any politician in the Coalition calculated more mistakenly that spending on the losing war in Europe would appease and ingratiate President Donald Trump, and relieve his country of penalty tariffs?
3. Has any politician in the Coalition benefited more personally and more directly in his bank account from fighting the Russians i the Ukraine and capitulating to Trump (except for Trump himself and European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen)?
Listen now to how the ideology of warfighting against Russia is promoted by Canadian Prime Minister Carney, no matter how false the narratives, how damaging to the Canadian economy and how feeble to mitigate Trump’s anti-Canadian policies.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 14 2025 16:59 utc | 22

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 14 2025 16:06 utc | 19
The Finnish economy, while same applies to most other nordic countries, is basically already dead. The housing market, main pillar of the economy, is in frozen standstill and falling. A million people are in foreclosure processes (that is almost a fifth of the population), industries are being shut down, small private business bankruptcies record high, Finland is the largest in the world when it comes to government/public workforce of total workforce, I believe 60% of employees are government employed, taxes world class high, all the traditional social democracy produced wealth services are all but gone.
All these issues apply to most other European countries but Finland was hit especially hard after losing connections with Russia.
I concur with Markw that Europe has rolled the dice, the final gamble to dismantle and disintegrate Russia to loot the resources in a bid to great another 10 – 20 year debt expansion cycle. If this gamble does not work out, it is the end of EUropistan. All politicians are personally invested with secret income streams to their bank accounts, profiting from ramping up war hysteria.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 14 2025 17:08 utc | 24

“MoatOfThe Fort” on Mr Martyanov’s site draws attention to the recent statement by General Tovari.
I followed the link up. Toveri states:-
“We can bomb Russia back to the Stone Age.”
“Finnish MEP and former head of the Finnish army’s intelligence division Pekka Toveri made this statement in an interview with the Ukrainian Telegraf. “Specifically, Toveri emphasized the West’s military superiority over Russia, saying: “We have three times more modern fighters than they do. The Western air force can clear the Ukrainian skies of Russians and bomb them back to the Stone Age if necessary.” “
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The most advanced of the “modern fighters” referred to is the F-35. The F-35 supports jobs for over a quarter of a million people throughout the United States:-
https://www.f35.com/f35/about/economic-impact.html
That’s presumable not counting the number of mechanics and engineers required for maintenance. With over around 1,000 sold so far that’s going to be a lot. Sufficient to say that producing and maintaining this machine gives work to a great number of people many of whom, in today’s difficult economic climate, wouldn’t be getting work otherwise.
So far so good – but as far as “bombing Russia back into the Stone Age” goes, all those people would be equally well employed digging holes and filling them in again:-
1. The range of this aircraft and the similar “modern fighters” Toveri refers to is considerably less than the width of the Atlantic. To be of any use in the Ukrainian theatre the aircraft would have to be based in Europe.
The bases would be subjected to missile attack as soon as the aircraft based there started to be used in an offensive capacity against Russia. Also their supply lines.
The Europeans would suddenly realise that the Ukrainian war wasn’t something happening “over there”, to which they are currently mere spectators. Europe itself would become a theatre of operations. I don’t think the Europeans could take that. It’s one thing cheering the Ukrainians on to sacrifice. Quite another if we were expected to sacrifice ourselves.
2. No point discussing the question of whether the Russian equipment is superior to ours, although acres upon acres of print are devoted to that subject. My own guess, based on what I’ve seen so far, is that given the equipment the Russians have developed and stockpiled any Western air offensive against Russia would be more of a turkey shoot with the Western airmen as the turkeys.
But that guess is more or less irrelevant. In any combat and however the combat went, US airmen would be casualties. This would be the air equivalent of “boots on the ground”. And both President Biden and President Trump have made it clear, Biden at the very start, that under no circumstances would the US put boots on the ground in this war.
3, And if they did, if the Western air forces did somehow manage to start seriously damaging Russia?
It’d go nuclear. This is not a war in which the Russians would accept defeat. And if the Americans, who dispose of the only serious military force in the West, were to find themselves being defeated in war the odds are that they would go nuclear themselves.
For this reason both of the only significant players in this combat, Russia and the US, will ensure that escalation does not reach that level. General Toveri is talking through his hat.
He must know that. Wiki:-
“Toveri served in the Finnish Army for over 35 years,[2] among other posts as the commander of the Armoured Brigade (2011–2013), the Western Finland military district (2014), and the Guard Jaeger Regiment (2015–2016); as military attaché at the Finnish Embassy in Washington, DC (2016–2019); and finally as the director of the Intelligence Division of the Defence Command (2019–2020), from which post he retired from active service at the rank of major general.”
That’s not one of the journalists, or one of our European politicians. That’s someone who must know his way round in the military field. Certainly to the extent of knowing that neither President Putin nor President Trump would countenance the degree of escalation he’s talking about. Toveri is deliberately misleading his audience.
He therefore joins the ranks of the chickenhawk generals of the West, the Keenes and the Breedloves and such like, whose field is PR rather than real warfare. Their job is to give us an entirely false picture of the military power of the West. As Colonel Lang was never tired of pointing out, our militaries are plagued with such officers. Amateur night generals when it comes to directing serious war, as the present conflict demonstrates. Consummate professionals when it comes to cheerleading and PR. I think the Russians call such people “parquet generals” and have been busy getting rid of them. If we ever wish to provide ourselves with serious defence forces we should do the same.
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As for the F-35 and similar toys, I can think of better ways of providing jobs than that. All that work and raw materials going into equipment that’s never going to be used in real earnest and probably wouldn’t be up to the work if it were. “Military Keynesianism”, as they’re now calling it, is how the Europoliticians are hoping to keep us in Europe clear of recession. With the Toveris and the Keenes cheering the nonsense on. As we head into Cold War II it’s now clear that we in Europe are going to be spending ourselves silly on boondoggle projects like that. That at a time when we should be putting the resources and labour to any number of better uses.

Posted by: English Outsider | Sep 14 2025 17:40 utc | 26

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 14 2025 17:08 utc | 24
I concur with Markw that Europe has rolled the dice, the final gamble to dismantle and disintegrate Russia to loot the resources in a bid to great another 10 – 20 year debt expansion cycle.

I don’t concur. There was never any hope to dismantle and loot Russia’s resources. Not even in the 90s, when Russia was at its weakest condition [1].
The motif is much more raw, natural and biological: race. Russia is very large and unpopulated. It can grow to the size of America. Anglo + groupies fear that, especially the groupies. Imagine that big thing in your own continent. And connected to that other big Asian thing which is getting richer and richer using our free markets.
Anglo + groupies fear becoming the new Mexicans of the SionoRusso new Americans. But the smart thing to do is to become the Canadians of the SinoRusso new Americans. That requires diplomacy and business acumen. Fuck we don’t have that!
[1] In the 90s, national resources were looted in Russia but the looting was done by Russians (many of Jewish heritage), giving rise to the class of Russian oligarchs. Western actors played a facilitating but secondary role [[1]]. The most important role of Western actors was to provide safe haven to ill-gotten gains of Russian oligarchs.
[[1]] Believing that Russia was raped by the West in the 90s, a very common belief among leftists, is in itself a narcissistic Western idea. Like the greatest evil can only be done by Western evildoers. Surprise. The Russians were perfectly capable of raping their own nation.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 14 2025 17:53 utc | 28

Unimperator
” concur with Markw that Europe has rolled the dice, the final gamble to dismantle and disintegrate Russia to loot the resources in a bid to great another 10 – 20 year debt expansion cycle.”
Fully agree this level of analysis must be kept in view. Could either Markw or Unimperator explain why they emphasize “debt expansion cycle” as opposed to a “capital accumulation cycle” or something similar? Isn’t debt created as part of investing in a potentially profitable undertaking? Are you picking up on a skew in contemporary capitalism that’s developed because capitalists have been more focused in profiting on interest from debt (Streeck, Buying Time, the passing away of the tax state and the rise of the debt state) because productive investment in the usual sense of investment in capital goods is harder justify?

Posted by: dadooronron | Sep 14 2025 18:08 utc | 30

A bit off-topic… Brazilian police arrested on Friday a man accused of smuggling mobile phone jammers.
In the video attached to the report’s end, which shows the aftermath of police action, at 17 and 39 sec marks something that seems to be the AFU’s symbol can be seen in part of the equipment (a case of some sort).
The video unfortunately has no subtitles or autotranslation available to other languages. I imagine if such material has reached Brazil, what else would be moving quietly across Europe…
https://oglobo.globo.com/rio/noticia/2025/09/13/homem-acusado-de-fornecer-tecnologia-ilegal-para-organizacoes-criminosas-do-rio-e-preso.ghtml

Posted by: C Khosta y Alzamendi | Sep 14 2025 18:16 utc | 32

One has to wonder what Russia will look like after the war, assuming they don’t achieve much.

Posted by: dat gt user | Sep 14 2025 18:22 utc | 34

@34
Better than the EU, the US and The UK

Posted by: Judge Barbier | Sep 14 2025 18:39 utc | 36

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 14 2025 18:36 utc | 35
Not that easy to have explosive population growth and, by the way, Russia didn’t give any sign of that.
Now it would be really funny if, after loosing a war fearing demographic grow, west will find that this generated the feared growth.
Self fulfilling profecies or karma,if you prefer.

Posted by: Mario | Sep 14 2025 19:00 utc | 38

*** Could either Markw or Unimperator explain why they emphasize “debt expansion cycle” as opposed to a “capital accumulation cycle” or something similar? Isn’t debt created as part of investing in a potentially profitable undertaking? ***
Posted by: dadooronron | Sep 14 2025 18:08 utc | 30
The sale of a tangible asset that secures financing generates returns that are miniscule compared to the revenue that can be realized (not by governments) by financing that same asset. A decision tree analysis does not apply to a system that operates as a distributed network through actors who’s operations depend upon their anonymity.

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 14 2025 19:09 utc | 40

It’s been a while since I’ve checked in on the open thread with the highest concentration of fascists on MoA.

[1] In the 90s, national resources were looted in Russia but the looting was done by Russians (many of Jewish heritage), giving rise to the class of Russian oligarchs. Western actors played a facilitating but secondary role [[1]]. The most important role of Western actors was to provide safe haven to ill-gotten gains of Russian oligarchs.
[[1]] Believing that Russia was raped by the West in the 90s, a very common belief among leftists, is in itself a narcissistic Western idea. Like the greatest evil can only be done by Western evildoers. Surprise. The Russians were perfectly capable of raping their own nation.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 14 2025 17:53 utc | 28

The existence of local compradors does not cancel out the fact that the main beneficiaries were Americans. I know this is the same logic employed by Americans when confronted with the slave trade. Americans blame it on Africans selling out other Africans while disregarding that the opposition from Africans were greater and that the Americans were always free to not participate in the trade.
Back to Russia:

It has been one debacle after another since the IMF introduced its “shock therapy” program in 1992. Like a battered spouse who sees no alternative but to return to her abuser, Russia comes back to the IMF for more credits. But the hundreds of billions that have fled the country in the 1990’s have cancelled out this “aid,” as well as the meager foreign direct investment, many times over. At the same time Russia has accumulated more than $150 billion in foreign debt, with the burden of debt service now reaching a crushing 29% of export earnings.
At some point any rational, non-corrupt political leader in Russia has to question whether the country’s friendly relations with Washington are worth the price of continued impoverishment. That time may be approaching, as Russia elects first a Parliament and then a President over the next 10 months. There will be calls from across the political spectrum to break, or at least loosen, the chains that bind Russia to its Western tormentors.
The American press will mostly dismiss these demands as nationalist finger-pointing, and attribute Russia’s demise to its failure to hew more closely to the IMF’s prescriptions. And Washington will pour in money, as it did in the 1996 elections, to support its friends.
<a href="https://cepr.net/publications/the-looting-of-russia/

“>https://cepr.net/publications/the-looting-of-russia/
Another fascist believes that the indigenous people were somehow the beneficiaries of colonization instead of its victims by listing examples of indigenous-run casinos (very American phenomenon) as proof.

….very gracious of you to pass the Palestinian Genocide off as a Resource War…..considering Canada, part of the Realm, floats on oil, gas, diamonds and gold and can’t the Aparthied State just set a up a Reservation system like Canada and just pay the locals their part of the transit fees……of resources extracted…..build a few Casinos…..lots of money to be made off these Genocide Resource Wars….screw that pot of gold shite!
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 14 2025 15:49 utc | 16

Just like Johan Kaspar, sean the leprechaun is selectively blind to the coercion imposed upon indigenous communities for the scant few concessions given to these communities, concessions that were given for the express purpose of whitewashing the exploitation. Since Canada was mentioned, here are some examples:
While Nestlé extracts millions of litres from their land, residents have no drinking water – The Guardian – 4 Oct 2018
‘A perilous pipeline’: Indigenous groups line up against Keystone XL – CBC – Mar 27, 2017
Trump pushes for revival of Keystone XL Pipeline project cancelled by Biden – France 24 – 25/02/2025

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Sep 14 2025 19:26 utc | 42

That’s not one of the journalists, or one of our European politicians. That’s someone who must know his way round in the military field. Certainly to the extent of knowing that neither President Putin nor President Trump would countenance the degree of escalation he’s talking about. Toveri is deliberately misleading his audience.
Posted by: English Outsider | Sep 14 2025 17:40 utc | 26

President Trump, the very rational peace president who undoubtedly aided Ukraine’s attack on Russia’s nuclear triad in June 2025, who ordered US strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities in June 2025 (again), who publicly ordered nuclear subs to be deployed in response to Medvedev’s remarks just last month in August 2025? Yeah, sure, Trump totally won’t toy with the idea of a nuclear holocaust.

EU disinformation uses this as propaganda talking point of Chinese taking over Russia but that isn’t happening.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 14 2025 18:41 utc | 37

EU disinformation? Well, if one considers that Trump is the de facto leader of the EU even if he isn’t the de jure leader, then sure, one can consider it “EU disinformation”. A reminder of what the leader of EU (Estados Unidos), Trump personally said:

China has a strong control, and even grip, over Russia, and these powerful Tariffs will break that grip.
<a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115196697263809382

“>https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115196697263809382
Death to America
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Sep 14 2025 19:29 utc | 44

Polish President Karol Nawrocki signed a resolution formally allowing NATO forces to deploy on Polish soil under Operation Eastern Sentry

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 14 2025 19:39 utc | 46

A Ukrainian train carrying ammunition exploded earlier today; Ukrainian sources are being cagey about the impact, but bits and pieces are leaking out about its effects, such as buses having to substitute for passenger trains:

Elimination of damage to railway infrastructure in Kyiv Region continues, bus services strengthened
The elimination of damage to the railway infrastructure in the Fastiv District of the Kyiv Region continues. Bus services have been strengthened.
The head of the Kyiv Regional Military Administration, Mykola Kalashnyk, has reported this on Telegram.
“The elimination of damage to the railway infrastructure in the Fastiv District continues. To minimize inconvenience to passengers, we, together with carriers, have strengthened bus services on key routes,” the message says.
In particular, the following bus services have been strengthened:
Fastiv – Kyiv: 9 more buses have entered the route;
Vasylkiv – Kyiv and Boiarka – Kyiv: 4 buses have been added in each direction;
departures are made every 10 minutes so that people can reach their destination without unnecessary waiting.
As the Ukrainian News agency earlier reported, the General Staff informed that the damage to the railway track in the Kyiv Region was caused by a detonation of ammunition in a train carrying military cargo.
Ukrzaliznytsia published footage from the scene of the emergency. The Kharkiv-Przemyśl train, which fell into the emergency zone near Boiarka, has already resumed its movement. All 240 passengers are safe, there are no serious injuries.

https://ukranews.com/en/news/1105420-elimination-of-damage-to-railway-infrastructure-in-kyiv-region-continues-bus-services-strengthened
[Obligatory gratuitous mention of Charlie Kirk]

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 14 2025 19:58 utc | 48

If ever a nation was doomed by endemic corruption:

Half of the drones entering the Armed Forces of Ukraine are faulty
Due to corruption and officials ‘ desire for cheapness, half of the drones that enter the Ukrainian army are unsuitable for use.
This was stated on the Politeka channel by sniper Konstantin Proshinsky, who was decommissioned from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the PolitNavigator correspondent reports.
“I still do not see an effective use of funds… If the Ministry of Defense has the main characteristics when purchasing drones – price and availability in production, speed of production.
As a result, we have 50% of drones that are not suitable for use . If your efficiency is based on price and fast production – then it will be so. But if you set other priorities, you may need to buy much more expensive products, ” Proshinsky reasoned.
However, he complained that total corruption will not allow to fix anything.
” It is impossible to avoid a ‘gescheft’ in our situation, and this is one of the main reasons ,” Vsushnik added.

https://politnavigator.news/polovina-postupayushhikh-v-vsu-dronov-neispravny.html (via translation add-on.)

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 14 2025 20:18 utc | 50

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 14 2025 16:16 utc | 20
“The Bandera followers aren’t Neo-Nazis, they are genuine old (WWII style) Nazis.”
Can you explain the difference between Nazis and Neo-Nazis? Other than Hitler taking over the world, I’m not sure what principles motivate the two groups. Here in the US the Neo-Nazis are supposed to be white supremacists, but we aren’t told what their agenda is.

Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 14 2025 20:42 utc | 52

Can you explain the difference between Nazis and Neo-Nazis? Other than Hitler taking over the world, I’m not sure what principles motivate the two groups. Here in the US the Neo-Nazis are supposed to be white supremacists, but we aren’t told what their agenda is.
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 14 2025 20:42 utc | 54
The Nazis ran Germany, then the world’s most technologically advanced society, for 12 years. They were a credible threat to the established world order. They took over most of Europe and had an alliance with Japan, then the most powerful country in East Asia.
Neo-Nazis are mostly losers, who like to cos play as Nazis but lack each of the intelligence, knowledge, and organization to be a legitimate threat to anything but themselves. In Ukraine, they have managed to get a lot of Ukrainian killed, and a lot of non Ukrainian rich.

Posted by: Afro | Sep 14 2025 21:37 utc | 54

Posted by: Mario | Sep 14 2025 20:15 utc | 50
So, there was inded reason to fear explosive growth in Russia. Had that rate of growth in Russian fertility rates between 2000 and 2015 (1.2 to 1.78) been sustained beyond 2015, Russia would have achieved 2.1 around 2020.
So the West succeeded in stopping that trend by sanctions and proxy war. Russian married women started to think nyet, bad times are coming.
Then we have to count the population Russia is winning in the Ukraines. Working with figures from reasonable sources Russia is winning ~40-50 new citizens for every dead Russian soldier and ~8-10 new citizens for every dead ukrop soldier.
So what is the net result of Russian (population not born because of slowing down demographic recovery) minus (population won by grinding down the Ukraines)?

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 14 2025 21:51 utc | 56

All Under Heaven@43…..Ireland is steeped in 400 years of English horror, so horrifying it has left a RNA scar on our very being…..and the more horror they forced on us, the harder we laughed…..helps if you’re Irish…..we call it Black Humour, sometimes it works and sometimes its a creeper……
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 14 2025 22:19 utc | 58

Just to explain a little more of what Markw said, why should debt driven economies must always find ways to expand debt and seek higher and higher profits just to get by?
Assume someone invests in any investment- stocks, houses, gold, whatever. The asset will be sold to him at a profit so the buyer must earn his profit on top of this. He has borrowed the money so he has to earn even more to make a profit. The cost of capital theory (Modigliani & Miller) says, higher the debt, higher the cost of own capital (until the bubble bursts).
So in debt driven societies there is this constant demand to earn more and more at a higher margin AND an accelerating higher rate of growth. This is not sustainable in any society or even the world. The bubble bursts and 1930 repeats. To avoid that you must capture others’ resources. If deceit and cunning don’t work, war is the only way. That’s the reason for all NATO led wars, agitation, etc.
But there’s a catch. What if all avenues will likely fail against a potential resource goldmine? What if that resource mine is also following the same approach? China. Though confrontation is inevitable and suicidal it must happen. But until then the greedy will go after others. Rob their resources and gain strength before taking on China.
This is why it’s important to save the resources of Venezuela, Iran, etc. Debt crazy barbarians are now desperate. These places are seen as low hanging fruit. These must be denied to then.
What if this resource grab fails? Or what if it actually loses more resources than it gains? Like Ukraine? Then the debt driven society is fcuked.
This is what happens now in all US lackeys. They now turn against each other in cannibalism. USA wants EU to sanction Russia, China and India. This is cannibalism at its finest. Australia has to invest $70 billion in weapons at the expense of reducing healthcare, education, disability care, climate change action, etc. Same for Japan. But how far can cannibalism go against other cannibals who must pay their own debts?
The long game doesn’t favor them. Debt piles up. Return on investment annual targets compound every year. COVID wiped out trillions in real economy and without allowing time to recovery 2022 happened. Things are now desperate. The debt driven investment bubble will burst anytime soon. Recession is on the way. 1930s to 1945 of cannibals verses cannibals will be played out without the cheap labor of Stalin. High fun ahead!

Posted by: Jason | Sep 14 2025 22:30 utc | 60

The project Ukraine gambit illustrates perfectly the willingness of Nato to risk the entire legacy of EU cultural, economic and military dominance for the sake of one last mad gamble at seizing Russia’s natural resources in which to collateralize yet another expansionary lending cycle.
If you don’t understand the primary impetus behind this war – in fact, every war, including Palestine – then you will be consigned to continuously search for answers, oftentimes being diverted into petty, simplistic explanations, while not only fully missing the mark, but also unable to project and anticipate other strategic moves clearly telegraphed to those who know what’s happening.
Posted by: Markw | Sep 14 2025 14:49 utc | 10
And here I was worried that nobody would provide a Marxist interpretation of the seemingly irrational drive to WW3 of the Imperialist ruling elite.
That is a nice, popular distillation of the motive: a dying capitalism that has become it’s opposite, lashing out like a madman against hard material reality. It must be very frustrating to sense you are at the apex of a socioeconomic system which must perish in order to resolve an unsustainable social crisis.
That said, I agree with Sean as to Gaza. That is unique and a reflection of a particular Zionist madness within the western ruling class. It’s still rooted in the age induced illness of western Capitalism, but it’s gotten completely irrational due to the massive Zio influence in the west. Thus, all of imperialism seems blinded to it’s ramifications while at least a section of the RC can comprehend the loss in Ukraine.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 14 2025 23:20 utc | 62

I concur with Markw that Europe has rolled the dice, the final gamble to dismantle and disintegrate Russia to loot the resources in a bid to great another 10 – 20 year debt expansion cycle. If this gamble does not work out, it is the end of EUropistan. All politicians are personally invested with secret income streams to their bank accounts, profiting from ramping up war hysteria.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 14 2025 17:08 utc | 24
Yes. Surely at some point Ukraine will realise they are the expendable battle ram in this great gamble. Wonder their reaction.
With the support of such industrial and economic giant like China plus though not great manufacturing nations, NKorea,Iran has decent military industrial base plus soldiers. Not to forget Asians who are buying Russian resources.It is morphing to East vs West. It does look Europe didn’t study the odds while making this gamble or as President Trump would say they don’t hold the cards.

Posted by: Michael J | Sep 14 2025 23:29 utc | 64

As long as this thread focuses 78% of its attention on Russia’s future demographics, whether there will or will not be s baby boom at some point, then we’re in the clear.
I’d encourage more comments about 800 A.D. and the Norse as well.
If this thread perseverates over “resource grabs” until it reaches 100 posts, then I will personally stand a shot (your bottle choice-!) for everyone in the bar.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 14 2025 23:34 utc | 66

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 15 2025 0:19 utc | 69
RE: hemispheric exhaustion
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Absolutely.
However, this thread has been operative for 11 hours, and it has barely notched 70 posts-?
Maybe everybody forgot to take their 5 mgs of Creatine this morning, but one wonders at the lackluster chicken scratch today.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 15 2025 0:26 utc | 68

Trump’s team to ask for $58 million from Congress for increased security (due to Charlie Kirk’s death) while he continues to stir up trouble, cause division and further animosity between increasingly polarised groups. What a brave guy, ordinary Americans can pay, as it is for increased inflation and everything else caused by the Zionist neocon monoparty’s madness. Elites win, ordinary Americans can serve as useful creditors.

Posted by: George | Sep 15 2025 0:35 utc | 70

Posted by: hopehely | Sep 14 2025 23:22 utc | 65
thus sprach khazhar relative of Bernard Baruch.
land ownership how much of the black soils rich earth of uktainia has been purchased by black rock since 2014?
hopehely you zio satanic fink
de pop and in the near east and ukrainia and you do not get any sovereign claims erase history and get simon scharma and Simon Sebag Montefiore to draft the new kosher nostra version

Posted by: normal wisdom | Sep 15 2025 0:52 utc | 72

How bad are the sum of the Ukrainian strikes on the Russian oil refineries? What percent is offline?

Posted by: ed4 | Sep 15 2025 1:40 utc | 74

…for the sake of one last mad gamble at seizing Russia’s natural resources…
Posted by: Markw | Sep 14 2025 14:49 utc | 10
Globalist gambler addicts

Posted by: jopalolive | Sep 15 2025 2:16 utc | 76

Posted by: Afro | Sep 14 2025 21:37 utc | 56
“Neo-Nazis are mostly losers, who like to cos play as Nazis but lack each of the intelligence, knowledge, and organization to be a legitimate threat to anything but themselves. In Ukraine, they have managed to get a lot of Ukrainian killed, and a lot of non Ukrainian rich.”
I was thinking more in terms of ideology, animating principles and worldview. What makes the two groups different in their outlook and agenda?

Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 15 2025 2:58 utc | 78

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 14 2025 19:49 utc | 48
“[Obligatory gratuitous mention of Charlie Kirk, since no topic is complete without such accoutrements.]”
To date, you seem to be the only person here mentioning Charlie Kirk. I’ve only looked at the Ukraine thread, so I might be mistaken in respect to the other two threads.

Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 15 2025 3:50 utc | 80

“You forgot that the non-functional drones can be deposited across the border into Poland or Romania to try and draw NATO into battle.”
Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 15 2025 3:55 utc | 84
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sDvz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e5bc709-1210-4761-b877-ab2c3fee5a76_1084x1843.jpeg
From: https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/trump-finally-outwits-europe-and?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e5bc709-1210-4761-b877-ab2c3fee5a76_1084x1843.jpeg&open=false

Posted by: George | Sep 15 2025 4:25 utc | 82

@Paranaense | Sep 14 2025 20:42 utc | 54

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 14 2025 16:16 utc | 20
“The Bandera followers aren’t Neo-Nazis, they are genuine old (WWII style) Nazis.”
Can you explain the difference between Nazis and Neo-Nazis? Other than Hitler taking over the world, I’m not sure what principles motivate the two groups. Here in the US the Neo-Nazis are supposed to be white supremacists, but we aren’t told what their agenda is.

Stepan Bandera (1909–1959) is the “father of Ukraine”.
From Wikipedia (yes, I know):
In 1940, he became head of the radical faction of the OUN, the OUN-B. On 22 June 1941, the same day as Operation Barbarossa, the German invasion of the Soviet Union, he formed the Ukrainian National Committee. The head of the Committee, Yaroslav Stetsko, announced the creation of a Ukrainian state on 30 June 1941, in German-captured Lviv. The proclamation pledged to work with Nazi Germany.

https://www.wsws.org/asset/9ff3eec6-70f6-487a-8068-caa571482c6a
Valery Zaluzhny (left) with Andriy Stempitsky, a commander of the fascist Right Sector during his last days in office. Both men are photographed in front of a portrait of Ukrainian fascist leader Stepan Bandera
Link to article

Bandera died in Germany in 1959. Nazism in Ukraine is closely related with WWII Nazism, its leaders and history, with a deep hatred of anything Russia.
Modern “Neo-Nazis” in the west are typically ‘supremacists’ which are useful to themselves and especially useful as a group the ruling establishment can point to as a distraction. These groups tend to be small. My memory may be selective but the only violence committed by “Neo Nazis” (as distinct from WWII-style Nazis) that I can remember is “Hadelendsdrapene” in 1981 where useless Neo-Nazis killed each other.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2025 6:21 utc | 84

All Under Heaven@43…..Ireland is steeped in 400 years of English horror, so horrifying it has left a RNA scar on our very being…..and the more horror they forced on us, the harder we laughed…..helps if you’re Irish…..we call it Black Humour, sometimes it works and sometimes its a creeper…..
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 14 2025 22:19 utc
RNA scar?

Posted by: vargas | Sep 15 2025 6:52 utc | 86

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 14 2025 16:06 utc | 19
“Finland concluded a secret agreement with Nazi Germany before the invasion of the USSR that would allow Finland to secretly send Finnish volunteers to Heinrich Himmler’s Waffen SS forces. Himmler formed a Finnish Waffen SS Volunteer Battalion from these Finnish troops called “Nordost”.
Thank you. But do you have any links or the name or date of that agreement? Thanks.

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Sep 15 2025 7:30 utc | 88

Talk of Russia’s future population is an interesting topic.
Assuming immigrants overwhelm an already declining Europe there’s a distinct possibility that there will come a mass emigration to Russia in seek of jobs, cultural stability and an overabundance of beautiful, feminine women.
IMHO the Euro Russophobia doesn’t run nearly as deep as discomfort over more home-grown issues.
The future is all about control over increasingly limited resources, and Russia’s prosperity will be a magnet.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Sep 15 2025 7:56 utc | 90

Posted by: George | Sep 15 2025 0:26 utc | 71
Thanks. Interesting report by Borzzikman, especially about the Russian submarine and the fleet of NATO vessels in the north of Norway.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 15 2025 8:21 utc | 92

Poland. After Russian drones in Poland, the US response is limited to verbal support, not military action. Polish PM Sikorski draws conclusions:

Security guarantees are meant to deter a potential adversary … So what we are saying is that if there is some kind of peace, the next time Russia tries anything against Ukraine, we might go to war with Russia. Now I find that not very credible. Because if you want to go war with Russia, you can do it today and I see no volunteers. And there is nothing more dangerous in international relations than giving a guarantee that is not credible. (guardian)

Giving a guarantee is a way to provoke war, as the country receiving the guarantee sees no reason for diplomacy.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 15 2025 10:00 utc | 94

Posted by: normal wisdom | Sep 14 2025 22:40 utc | 63
Back to Odessa ? At last ; someone will be able to tell us by first hand experiences the difference between a Sahed136 and a Geran2 🙂

Posted by: Savonarole | Sep 15 2025 10:50 utc | 96

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2025 9:09 utc | 95
Finnish PM was moaning how the economy is partially crashing due to lack of wood raw material from Russia, billions in investments are delayed and never made and pre-existing industries move away.
It’s good to acknowledge a problem, and then continue shooting yourself in the foot.

It’s not Stubb’s problem! He’ll end up in some cozy place, far away from Suomi, like his predecessor Sanna Marin.
I believe he’s saying this so that the population doesn’t think he’s a culprit (which he is). Living standards in Finland will be hit particularly hard, and at least some Finns are able to link that to the faithful decisions of 2022.

Posted by: Konami | Sep 15 2025 12:09 utc | 98

@hopehely | Sep 14 2025 17:41 utc | 27

Morons led by traitors

Led by traitors? Certainly. Morons? The people of Finland were not given a chance to vote on whether to break the neutrality treaty and join NATO.

Posted by: cirsium | Sep 15 2025 12:19 utc | 100