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September 7, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-204
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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This has to be significant beyond the pale. Posted by: steve | Sep 7 2025 12:11 utc | 1 A refinery a day keeps the Russian away. Today it was Ilsky’s turn, pushing the destruction of Russian oil infrastructures, according to NATO sources, to 27 percent since the start of NATO’s strategic campaign against the oil industry. And we are finally beginning to understand why the so-called ‘best air defence in the world’ looks so helpless: before every strike on a refinery there is a neat little pre-campaign against the local radar stations, which makes the hit practically guaranteed. To make it worse, the targets are always the distillation towers and the pumping stations – not only extremely slow to repair but in fact impossible, since they were all built with Western technology that neither Russia nor China can reproduce. At this pace, once the 40 percent mark is reached (in about a month), Russia’s ability not only to wage war but even to function as a society will be wiped out. The irony is delicious: Russia, which pretends to be fighting Nazism, is ending up like the Nazi armies themselves, stopped dead by the simple lack of fuel. Posted by: louis | Sep 7 2025 12:19 utc | 2 It is bloody amazing how the Ukroids go to their slaughter Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 7 2025 12:22 utc | 3 The EU comission acceded to transfer wealth to America in order to keep America protecting the EU and involved in project Ukraine. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 7 2025 12:23 utc | 4 Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 5th September 2025: May be Useful to Some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-f68 SCO Coverage. Posted by: The Busker | Sep 7 2025 12:30 utc | 5 not only extremely slow to repair but in fact impossible, since they were all built with Western technology that neither Russia nor China can reproduce Posted by: steve | Sep 7 2025 12:30 utc | 6 This if true could open the door to attacks on Belarus, from the Neo-Nazi dictatorship in Ukraine and maybe even from Nato in Europe. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 7 2025 12:39 utc | 7 Back to Maidan and the Death of a nasty neo-Nazi Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 7 2025 12:40 utc | 8 Russia’s ability not only to wage war but even to function as a society will be wiped out. The irony is delicious: Russia, which pretends to be fighting Nazism, is ending up like the Nazi armies themselves, stopped dead by the simple lack of fuel. Posted by: Martina | Sep 7 2025 12:40 utc | 9 Posted by: louis | Sep 7 2025 12:19 utc | 2 Posted by: Spiridon | Sep 7 2025 12:53 utc | 11 Moscow denies striking Kiev parliament with missiles and drones, of course its not unknown for the Neo-Nazi’s, to attack their own infrastructure and then blame it on Russia. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 7 2025 12:55 utc | 12 That’s confidence for you, no doubt the IOC will allow the Zionists to participate – even though they are committing genocide in Gaza. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 7 2025 12:57 utc | 13 This if true could open the door to attacks on Belarus, from the Neo-Nazi dictatorship in Ukraine and maybe even from Nato in Europe Posted by: rk | Sep 7 2025 13:04 utc | 14 Another addition to Louis at (2) – Louis wrote: Posted by: Martina | Sep 7 2025 13:11 utc | 15 Clearly Putin finds it more palatable to destroy Ukrainian men who were sent to the front against their will than to deliver any kind of hit against the “Nazi” regime who sent them there. Really makes you think. Posted by: i hate everything | Sep 7 2025 13:33 utc | 16 This has to be significant beyond the pale. Posted by: Newbie | Sep 7 2025 13:44 utc | 17 Don Firineach | Sep 7 2025 12:40 utc | 8 Posted by: cirsium | Sep 7 2025 13:44 utc | 18 On chilly late summer mornings we get a foretaste of what’s in store: Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 7 2025 13:48 utc | 19 Fractionating columns aren’t exactly new technology. Neither are catalytic crackers. I’m sure Russia won’t sit there crying woe. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 7 2025 13:55 utc | 20 @ Republicofscotland | Sep 7 2025 12:55 utc | 12 Posted by: boneless | Sep 7 2025 13:56 utc | 21 Posted by: Martina | Sep 7 2025 13:11 utc | 15 Posted by: Passerby | Sep 7 2025 14:03 utc | 22 Been looking for verification of the claimed strikes on Russian refineries, but none of the Ukrainian outlets I regularly look at are reporting anything so far.
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Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 7 2025 14:03 utc | 23
Terrible AI slop. You should try doing your own reasoning, it might still be imbecilic but at least you won’t think its somehow authoritative. Dumb people really like AI, since it let’s them sound smart, something they’ve struggled with their entire lives. When NAFO types invade to this degree one knows the desperation levels are again high. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 7 2025 14:04 utc | 24 Russia’s attack on the bridge over the Dniepr near Kremenchuk is a bid to force Kiev’s serious-minded attention to capitulation. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 7 2025 14:08 utc | 25 A friendly reminder that Russian advance has been accelerating over the last ~8 months despite decrease of armored vehicle usage. Posted by: boneless | Sep 7 2025 14:09 utc | 26 Or maybe you just reposted whatever AI told you and you thought it was true? Rather amusing. Seems your refinery strikes are hallucinations. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 7 2025 14:09 utc | 27 @ Posted by: i hate everything | Sep 7 2025 13:33 utc | 16 Posted by: taukey | Sep 7 2025 14:11 utc | 28 Can somebody explain to me why Ukraine still can’t take back its land with 57 countries backing them? how does that even make sense. Posted by: klfalien | Sep 7 2025 14:12 utc | 29 And a couple of images of the aftermath of the bridge strike, showing damage and obstructions rather than complete demolition: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/09/07/1665846.html Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 7 2025 14:12 utc | 30 @ Posted by: klfalien | Sep 7 2025 14:12 utc | 29 Posted by: taukey | Sep 7 2025 14:24 utc | 31 reply to 28 Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 7 2025 14:35 utc | 32 Do not believe for an instant that once 40% of Ru refining capacity is struck Ru will be incapable of sustaining its society Posted by: Hot Carl | Sep 7 2025 14:39 utc | 33 Gnarly AFU counteroffensive action w/ the intent to cut the “bunny ear” sliver of Russian-held territory which extends vertically between Zaparidne & Vladimirovka northeast of Petrovsk. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 7 2025 14:44 utc | 34 Attack on the bridge in Poltava; Posted by: watcher | Sep 7 2025 14:48 utc | 35 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 7 2025 12:39 utc | 7 Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 7 2025 14:50 utc | 36 The price for avoiding mobilization in Ukraine has been revealed. It’s at $30k.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 7 2025 14:54 utc | 37 Posted by: Hot Carl | Sep 7 2025 14:39 utc | 33 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 7 2025 15:01 utc | 38 Paranaense (36). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 7 2025 15:01 utc | 39 Paranaense@36…..man defensive lines…..it’s drone wars now and for the near and distant future, no need to man anything. Pretty sure Ukie can smash Belarussian infrastructure easier than Russia’s heavily defended yet still vulnerable soft juicy targets….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 7 2025 15:08 utc | 40 Tsk, tsk, Sean … seems you’re already well into the Guinness this fine morn. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 7 2025 15:19 utc | 41 Re: Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 7 2025 15:19 utc | 41
There’s a big big problem with your crazy dreams of a wider war. Posted by: Julian | Sep 7 2025 15:27 utc | 42 War is fought with diesel and not petrol . There is no problem with diesel availability . Here is a video with Mercurous from somebody in Russia . Posted by: hole in head | Sep 7 2025 15:28 utc | 43 Kremlin announces conditions for return of American corporations to Russian market:
I’ll bet Exxon has in some manner supported Ukrainian troops as have most Multinational corps directly or via subsidiaries. There’ll be no tanks from Belarus rolling towards Kiev – but where are the Russian tanks? Posted by: taukey | Sep 7 2025 15:55 utc | 45 , since they were all built with Western technology that neither Russia nor China can reproduce Posted by: Exile | Sep 7 2025 16:03 utc | 46 West doesn’t want ua to win just to weaken ru and will never give them enough equipment for win, you really don’t want to collapse a country that have thousands of nukes.Second reason is that they just don’t have enough manpower for it and it will only get worse for them.This is also war of numbers, for example if instead couple of overhiped f16s ua went for getting nvgs and thermals for that money and equipment and giving them to their best troops they could have owned the night.That way they could have way more effect on the war than with couple of planes. Posted by: grchina | Sep 7 2025 16:04 utc | 47 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 7 2025 14:03 utc | 23 Posted by: Newbie | Sep 7 2025 16:34 utc | 48 Accto to today’s Russian Field successes (as for Dima’S report midday), there remains a psychological effect turning to the Uranian people – as it is by new “New-Russian-styled- Drone” attacks against Kiew + Posted by: spare_truth_03 | Sep 7 2025 16:36 utc | 49 A refinery a day keeps the Russian away. Today it was Ilsky’s turn, pushing the destruction of Russian oil infrastructures, according to NATO sources, to 27 percent since the start of NATO’s strategic campaign against the oil industry. And we are finally beginning to understand why the so-called ‘best air defence in the world’ looks so helpless: before every strike on a refinery there is a neat little pre-campaign against the local radar stations, which makes the hit practically guaranteed. To make it worse, the targets are always the distillation towers and the pumping stations – not only extremely slow to repair but in fact impossible, since they were all built with Western technology that neither Russia nor China can reproduce. At this pace, once the 40 percent mark is reached (in about a month), Russia’s ability not only to wage war but even to function as a society will be wiped out. The irony is delicious: Russia, which pretends to be fighting Nazism, is ending up like the Nazi armies themselves, stopped dead by the simple lack of fuel. Posted by: Genesis | Sep 7 2025 16:44 utc | 50
Posted by: Newbie | Sep 7 2025 16:34 utc | 48 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 7 2025 17:05 utc | 51 ABC’s Martha Raddatz gave Zelensky ample PR time on her Sunday Morning Show, and Zelensky wasted no time in telling his host (and the viewers) that @ the Alaska Summit DJT gave VVP “everything he wanted.” Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 7 2025 17:07 utc | 52 Belarus barely has an army at all. Posted by: canuk | Sep 7 2025 17:09 utc | 53 Posted by: Genesis | Sep 7 2025 16:44 utc | 50 Posted by: spare_truth_03 | Sep 7 2025 17:11 utc | 54 Here’s a video clip of a traffic queue caused by the bridge being blocked: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/09/07/1665957.html Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 7 2025 17:13 utc | 55 The amount of cope coming from Empire sycophants indicates that the Axis is winning bigly. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 7 2025 17:15 utc | 56 Posted by: Genesis | Sep 7 2025 16:44 utc | 50 Posted by: Genesis | Sep 7 2025 17:21 utc | 57 Belarus barely has an army at all. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 7 2025 17:24 utc | 58 Question: Posted by: Genesis | Sep 7 2025 17:29 utc | 59
Posted by: Genesis | Sep 7 2025 17:29 utc | 59 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 7 2025 17:33 utc | 60 Thanks @Genesis for clearing the situation on Western EU newer selected non- democratically selected v.d.Liars beautiful hidden attack on this new pipeline anti-corruption would be a declaration of war…whereas N1 and N2 represent a declaration of war on Germany, hence NATO respectively ..? Posted by: spare_truth_03 | Sep 7 2025 17:39 utc | 61 @59 Posted by: schmoe | Sep 7 2025 17:40 utc | 62 This “rule-based order” doesn’t exist! Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 7 2025 17:40 utc | 63 Quite simply, it makes much more sense if we read it as “rules-based ordure”… Posted by: Doug Terpstra | Sep 7 2025 17:44 utc | 64 @ schmoe | Sep 7 2025 17:40 utc | 62 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 7 2025 17:45 utc | 65 Precisely. It’s a western-conspiratorial method of bypassing the scrutiny of the UN’s ‘International Law’. It’s been going on for years. Notice how all western governments now refer to the “rules-based order” instead of “international law”. Posted by: Genesis | Sep 7 2025 17:50 utc | 66 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 7 2025 14:03 utc | 23 Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 7 2025 17:50 utc | 67 Posted by: Julian | Sep 7 2025 15:27 utc | 42 Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 7 2025 17:55 utc | 68 @ Urban Fox | Sep 7 2025 17:50 utc | 67 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 7 2025 17:58 utc | 69 Contra To :Genesis | Sep 7 2025 17:21 utc | 57
And then, who will really start “that” as a war? Are You crazy to betray Your land, still having lost thousands today? The real master-guy is ISRAHELL and its ZIONS in that Gov.- ALL over the wold via USA tried to maintain its GENOCIDE over ruling in GAZA. Posted by: spare_truth_03 | Sep 7 2025 18:08 utc | 70 The way it is shaping up for Ukraine. Every thing east of the river will be Russia. Only question of intrest Odessa. The notion that oil distillation towers are, in general, some some sort super duper tech which is a western monopoly is utterly laughable. Posted by: Satepestage | Sep 7 2025 18:23 utc | 72 okay- something is going wrong here on Your site here telling the truth on Cambodia Border Meassured ? Posted by: spare_truth_03 | Sep 7 2025 18:38 utc | 73 Latest update from Marat Khairullin: https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-frontline-report-september-446 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 7 2025 18:45 utc | 74 HERMIUS | Sep 7 2025 17:40 utc | 63 Posted by: Doug Terpstra | Sep 7 2025 18:52 utc | 75 Sorry I’ve been suprised by a sudden phone call by my personal info messenger female guy – Posted by: spare_truth_03 | Sep 7 2025 18:52 utc | 76 Excuse me – but all those “Girls + Guys in US-Petagon-Regiment (“US Rear today just grounded and therefore based in an earth-bath”) Posted by: spare_truth_03 | Sep 7 2025 19:13 utc | 77 IMHO, Ukraine/NATO action is aimed at producing news headlines, not strategic or tactical advantage. Posted by: Passerby | Sep 7 2025 19:20 utc | 78 Posted by: Passerby | Sep 7 2025 19:20 utc | 78 Posted by: spare_truth_03 | Sep 7 2025 19:37 utc | 79 A short article by Patrushev in Kommersant about Terror in the Baltic, “Nikolai Patrushev: The Baltic Sea as an Arena of Undeclared Hybrid War”. Some interesting historical tidbits spice up the article.
https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/09/07/1666385.html Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 7 2025 20:17 utc | 81 Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 7 2025 20:07 utc | 80 Posted by: spare_truth_03 | Sep 7 2025 20:20 utc | 82 @watcher | Sun, 07 Sep 2025 14:48:00 GMT | 35
I like your idea of stopping at Kiev. Maybe partition it. Lots of historical lose ends there tied in. Posted by: persiflo | Sep 7 2025 20:23 utc | 83 Posted by: persiflo | Sep 7 2025 20:23 utc | 83
Sorry, but that is very-very far away from any current wishes – if based on ground realities. Posted by: spare_truth_03 | Sep 7 2025 20:50 utc | 84 @83 sorry, some mis-spellings – Ggl forced me to spell “other words” .. Posted by: spare_truth_03 | Sep 7 2025 20:54 utc | 85 I think and hope so that it will still last a long time “from now on” (German Nazi MERZ), before the 2nd + 3rd +4th +5th Oreshnik MHyperSonic Missiles have been destroyed the US-Bases in Ramstein/Stuttgard. Posted by: spare_truth_03 | Sep 7 2025 21:22 utc | 86 @spare_truth_03 | Sun, 07 Sep 2025 20:50:00 GMT | 84 Posted by: persiflo | Sep 7 2025 21:24 utc | 87 @persiflo : is a still very poor trained robot: Hello Robot: I’m a human beeing still non-gendered by Pfizer medication, but I think you cannot compete me on intelluigece level, even helped by ‘TransHuman Master’ Peter Thiel ! .. Posted by: spare_truth_03 | Sep 7 2025 21:43 utc | 88 **** Posted by: bisfab | Sep 7 2025 21:48 utc | 89 persiflo | Sep 7 2025 21:24 utc | 87 Posted by: bisfab | Sep 7 2025 21:51 utc | 91 Russia has the technology to restore all refineries attacked by Ukrainian terrorists. That’s why there has been repeat attacks on the same faculties months apart. Posted by: Jason | Sep 7 2025 21:52 utc | 92
Posted by: persiflo | Sep 7 2025 21:24 utc | 87 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 7 2025 21:59 utc | 93 In case you missed, Russia invented the world’s first colorectal cancer vaccine. Even western research and medical outlets have accepted that though western media outlets don’t. Sanctions have totally failed. Posted by: Jason | Sep 7 2025 22:10 utc | 94 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 7 2025 21:59 utc | 93
If you have “difficulties” with “those” posts, you should go back into your wording space you’ve ever learned in your history. Posted by: spare_truth_03 | Sep 7 2025 22:44 utc | 95 Sorry, but as usual I’m having trouble to parse your commentary. Posted by: malenkov | Sep 7 2025 23:15 utc | 96 Posted by: Michael J | Sep 7 2025 18:08 utc | 71 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 7 2025 23:21 utc | 97 But this is no reason to allow these attacks. Russia should buy China’s directed energy weapons to cheaply target drones. Russia should also defend Venezuela. US plan is simple. Takeover Venezuela and rob their oil. Should not be allowed to succeed. Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 7 2025 23:39 utc | 98 I lean towards disrupting logistics; if the AFU are retreating as far back as Kremenchug then I’d call that a rout rather than a retreat, as it would mean a serious loss of control of the Dnieper left bank. I’ve not seen much information about fortified positions in the Poltava region for the Ukrainian forces to actually retreat to and mount a defence. Posted by: Newbie | Sep 7 2025 23:43 utc | 99 In response to klfalien@29, Posted by: Skiffer | Sep 7 2025 23:45 utc | 100 |
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