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September 4, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-201
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Rutte: NATO armed forces into the Ukraine meat grinder 🌀 🧨
Rutte believes Russia and Putin are getting too much attention. “We have to stop making Putin too powerful. He’s the governor of Texas, nothing more,” Mark said, likely referring to the limited size of the Russian economy.
Decision is up to Ukraine 🤣
Posted by: Oui | Sep 4 2025 12:28 utc | 1
NATO boots on the ground… With feet inside, or just the boots? A nice Temu package dropped from Poland with a 100kUSD gliding attachement to feed the MIC.
“Nobody else has our beautiful gliding invention that will revolutionize warfare. Thank you for your attention.”
Posted by: Asian Frog | Sep 4 2025 12:54 utc | 2
Rutte believes Russia and Putin are getting too much attention.
Posted by: Oui | Sep 4 2025 12:28 utc | 1
Interesting, but if Russia’s economy is as small as Mark suggests, it’s curious how a country of such limited means is managing to hold the entire NATO, Japan, and various Western powers at bay while continuing to kill hundreds of Ukrainians daily. Makes you wonder: either Russia is far more powerful than they let on (considering it’s the fourth largest economy in the world by GDP), or if it really is as weak as they say, then the NATO and Western powers are even more fragile than they think.
Posted by: Mauro | Sep 4 2025 13:10 utc | 3
Rutte: NATO armed forces into the Ukraine meat grinder 🌀 🧨
Rutte believes Russia and Putin are getting too much attention. “We have to stop making Putin too powerful. He’s the governor of Texas, nothing more,” Mark said, likely referring to the limited size of the Russian economy.
Decision is up to Ukraine 🤣
Posted by: Oui | Sep 4 2025 12:28 utc | 1
He’s got a point. Ignore the provincial governor. Ignore him from some place this provincial governor is not interested in. Ignore him from some place far away from Ukraine – Lisbon for example. Feel free to take all of NATO’s forces there if that makes him feel safer. Or relevant.
As for Ukraine… Ukraine had already made its decision. It wanted NATO soldiers in its war against Russia. Rutte and his friends chose to ignore that. It obviously wasn’t the right choice. Now Rutte will wait until Ukraine makes the right choice. And moves to Portugal.
Posted by: Martina | Sep 4 2025 13:14 utc | 4
RF’s economy may be the size of Texas, but that is still one heck of an economy. One of world’s largest, with huge reserves of ng, petroleum, coal, rare earth minerals, wheat and corn and gold. Not bad at all.
Rutte is an idiot…………
Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 4 2025 13:19 utc | 5
Posted by: Oui | Sep 4 2025 12:28 utc | 1
I think I must have missed something.
Was the Texas governor in China? I didn’t see him.
Now, I think I also didn’t see djt there, was he there?
Posted by: Mario | Sep 4 2025 13:21 utc | 6
sorry, a typo in my
posted by: Mauro | Sep 4 2025 13:10 utc | 3
I wrote ‘fourth by GDP’ when I meant to write ‘fourth by PPP’, a typo I hope doesn’t alter what I intended to communicate.
Posted by: Mauro | Sep 4 2025 13:23 utc | 7
GD: John Helmer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHXU_aMRqX4
“Russia loses patience over ignored security concerns.”
Recommended
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 4 2025 13:24 utc | 8
Poland has likely had quiet discussions with Russia about occupying certain border regions in rump ukie. Rutte would like to head that off, as it’d mean NATO is finished. But if troops show up as NATO, Russia will destroy them.
The Blob poodles are scrambling.
Posted by: seer | Sep 4 2025 13:34 utc | 9
Posted by: Mauro | Sep 4 2025 13:10 utc | 3
On purchasing power parity and real GDP basis Russia is either 4th or 5th largest economy in the world, leaving Germany, UK, France combined in the dust. They might be on par with Japan.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2025 13:43 utc | 11
comments?
rogue systems post
Posted by: pastor | Sep 4 2025 13:34 utc | 10
It’s an interesting take. Not nessacarily wrong, yet if it were truthful analysis it wouldn’t use the derogatory language; as that’s only useful if you want to rile up low functioning grey matter synapses.
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 4 2025 13:57 utc | 12
@10
Looks like anonymous got himself a substack channel;
Overall a bad day for russia./s
Posted by: M | Sep 4 2025 13:58 utc | 13
Hat tip to Mr. Karloff1 and the Geopolitical Gymnasium for the following quote from the recent Bejing presser:
R Sobol: *** Please tell us, returning to the topic of your visit and the program of your visit, this SCO summit was perhaps the largest in the organization’s history. What is the role of this organization in today’s turbulent world, and can the SCO become a political alliance that can effectively counter threats from the West?
Thank you.
V.Putin: The SCO is not designed to confront anyone. We do not set ourselves such a task. And I would like to draw your attention to the fact that during the discussions and bilateral meetings, there has never been anything that could be described as a confrontational beginning during these four days.
We’re all set up to work, and above all, to work together with a positive mindset. We don’t think about outmaneuvering or beating someone, or about achieving better results through competition. Instead, we focus on how to organize our own work effectively and achieve positive outcomes by working together.
This is what the SCO is set up for.
I return to this topic – maybe i am the only one that finds it interesting- because it lays at root level repeating basis for misunderstanding.
This SCO meeting was between political bodies where the prevalent family structure (Anthropology) is exogenous communitarian. The thoughtfully considered manner is the only way, politically speaking, to get anything done.
Countries with authoritarian and nuclear family structures (think rednecks) work along a distributed network structure and, certainly to exogenous communitarian polities, chaotically. Many call it the battlefield of ideas that exists within this distributed network. Here, the world’s redneck countries look at rational planning as threats – because that is what rednecks do.
Posted by: frithguild | Sep 4 2025 14:07 utc | 14
Posted by: Mauro | Sep 4 2025 13:10 utc | 3
On purchasing power parity and real GDP basis Russia is either 4th or 5th largest economy in the world, leaving Germany, UK, France combined in the dust. They might be on par with Japan.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2025 13:43 utc | 11
In PPP Russia is ahead of Japan.
Posted by: canuk | Sep 4 2025 14:09 utc | 15
comments?
rogue systems post Posted by: pastor | Sep 4 2025 13:34 utc | 10
I would say that this is a rather accurate and well-informed assessment of the situation, both from a military perspective, on the front lines, and in terms of the strategic offensive against the oil and gas industry and its economic and social implications. It seems to have been written by someone with access to excellent sources and the ability to verify and organize information. Noteworthy is also the part of the geopolitical analysis from a perspective standpoint. I consider it superior to overtly propagandistic and surreal sites like Simplicius. The only real flaw is the use of derogatory terms like ‘orcs,’ which detracts from an otherwise very high-quality piece.
Posted by: Louis | Sep 4 2025 14:10 utc | 16
Errata: I should have closed the italic tag before “I return” which is where my comment begins in
Posted by: frithguild | Sep 4 2025 14:07 utc | 14
I did not mean to create a false impression VVP stated my commentary. Apologies.
Posted by: frithguild | Sep 4 2025 14:10 utc | 17
After the Coalition of the Wiling & Zelensky met @ the Elysee Palace, they immediately held a Zoom-mtg w/ DJT and discussed a set of security options, the key principles being a strong Ukrainian military, a European military presence in the country and a U.S. backstop for all of the security.
Seems everybody’s back to square-one, a la conversations DJT had in the Oval w/ Sir Keir and w/ Macron back in February.
These *asks* were non-starters then, and they’re non-starters now.
BTW: Witkoff traveled to Paris for the meeting in the Elysee Palace and then met for an hour w/ Zelensky one-on-one afterward.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 4 2025 14:14 utc | 18
@frithguild | Sep 4 2025 14:07 utc | 14
It seems you read Emmanuel Todd’s work, didn’t you ?
😉
Posted by: fabrice | Sep 4 2025 14:19 utc | 19
Putin Q&A Following China Visit (& vid)
https://www.rt.com/russia/624077-putin-presser-china-ukraine-conflict/
“The Russian president has said he has nothing against providing Ukraine with security guarantees, as long as they’re not at Moscow’s expense.”
Zelensky & Ukraine’s European Backers Talk To Trump: LIVE UPDATES
https://www.rt.com/russia/624112-zelensky-europe-trump-talks/
“The leaders of the so-called ‘coalition of the willing’ have met at a summit in Paris.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 4 2025 14:20 utc | 20
something to be investigated?
According to dropsitenews.com Google is in the middle of a six-month, $45 million contract to amplify propaganda with Netanyahu’s office. The contract describes Google as a “key entity” supporting the prime minister’s messaging
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/google-youtube-netanyahu-israel-propaganda-gaza-famine
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k_zG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F186fc491-8aca-43f4-8662-5b2376f1cda6_827x597.png <=this links to an image I found on dropsite news.
and this is a paragraph from the article I found on the dropsitenews.com:
"In response to a June report from UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese which concluded that Google had profited from the “genocide in Gaza,” the centibillionaire Google co-founder Sergey Brin reportedly described the UN as a “transparently antisemitic” organization on an internal company forum on July 5. Albanese’s criticism of Google centered around the company joining Amazon in 2021 on a major cloud computing contract with the Israeli government—including the military—known as Project Nimbus."
<- i want to be clear the above words are not mine.
If true. such a contract exist, I wonder if there are similar contracts with other foreign powers such as with the Piano player ?
can anyone verify the existence of such a contract.. ?
to me the media are in the advertising business and a contract no matter its source is nothing but business. ? Has anyone seen the ads shown in the dropsitenews.com article?
But for me business of this kind raises all sorts of political and legal questions which I am not qualified to answer. Does media have a duty to register as a foreign agent when it both creates and publishes political ads promoting a foreign interest in domestic American public advertising space? Promoting political interest of foreign powers without giving adequate notice to the audience feels to me akin to subliminal advertising.
1. does a media operating in domestic USA space contracting to present advertisements representing the interest of a foreign power fall under the Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938?
If so, why if not, why not..
2. does a media operating in domestic USA space contracting with a foreign power to design a strategy and to then implement that strategy by developing and presenting ads the media itself designed and produced to promote a foreign interest fall under the Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938?
If so, why. If not why not.
https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara
Posted by: snake | Sep 4 2025 14:48 utc | 21
🫥”Germany won, of course. After all, it preserved its sovereignty”
The negatively intelligent Kaya Kakalas expressed bewilderment upon learning that the victors of World War II are the Soviet Union and China
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/139748
High Dunning-Kruger score
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 4 2025 14:48 utc | 22
The only real flaw is the use of derogatory terms like ‘orcs,’ which detracts from an otherwise very high-quality piece.
Posted by: Louis | Sep 4 2025 14:10 utc | 16
It is a typo. He meant orcas.
Posted by: hopehely | Sep 4 2025 14:51 utc | 23
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 4 2025 14:14 utc | 18
RE: Coalition of the Willing met in Paris w/ Witkoff too
<<
Breitbart comment section after the Coalition met:
The Realist said, "They can meet all the want. Russia has the final say."
To which ActuallyTryThinking responded, "Exactly. Witkoff is doing a charity job on the coalition of losers.
Europe is broke. Their economies have AIDS. They're over run by unwanted third world low IQ welfare leeches. Their armed forces are shambolic. France is ungovernable. Germany is bordeline ungovernable. The UK is on the brink of bankruptcy and civil war.
Europe has made themselves patently irrelevant."
F. Tupp AI remarked, "Somebody has to get Euro-NATO to accept terms Russia finds acceptable since the entire war was due to NATO's empire building and movement into Ukraine."
LuciusAnnaeusSeneca said, "Hmm. Maybe Witkoff reminded that strange persons' gathering that the Siberia-2 pipeline deal means no western Siberia gas for Europe. That will all go to China. Europe will have to look elsewhere for gas.
So now, in one move by the two leading SCO members, Russia is in a position to resist further Western sanctions, and Europe is now wondering what it will have to do for its future energy needs. Well played!"
orianaItaly wrote, "The Power Of Siberia 2 Pipeline Deal Signifies The Failure Of Trump’s Eurasian Grand Strategy.
Trump’s Eurasian grand strategy has sought to preemptively avert Russia’s potentially disproportionate dependence on China in order to avoid having its natural resources turbocharge the superpower trajectory of the US’s only systemic rival.
In pursuit of this, the US envisaged entering into a resource-centric strategic partnership with Russia upon the end of the Ukr Conflict, expecting that this shared goal would incentivize Putin into agreeing to significant territorial and/or security concessions."
The Breitbarters definitely see the recent SCO mtg and the celebrations in Beijing serving to amplify VVP's winning hand in the SMO.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 4 2025 14:52 utc | 24
The call between Zelensky, Trump and the ‘Coalition of the Willing’ has CONCLUDED
WP: Trump still ‘unsure’ about US role in security guarantees
https://t.me/rtnews/109875
Apropos:
https://postimg.cc/XB83zJgS
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 4 2025 14:56 utc | 25
@ Norwegian | Sep 4 2025 14:56 utc | 25
apropos at the bottom – very relevant..
Posted by: james | Sep 4 2025 15:01 utc | 26
It seems you read Emmanuel Todd’s work, didn’t you ?
😉
Posted by: fabrice | Sep 4 2025 14:19 utc | 19
Yes! Much room to question his postulates with data, but for me it is one of those things that once it has been seen it cant be unseen.
As I look at western media today it is rife with very well crafted redneck red meat like the Kremlin “blasting” with responses that offend the west’s collectibe “honor”.
Posted by: frithguild | Sep 4 2025 15:10 utc | 27
Re:Orcs
hopehely | Sep 4 2025 14:51 utc | 23
Louis | Sep 4 2025 14:10 utc | 16
Orcs. abbreviation for Orchestra? 🙂
Posted by: Mercury | Sep 4 2025 15:51 utc | 28
Everything is ‘propaganda’ – Russia not advancing ‘ANYWHERE’
But Ukraine needs MORE AID
Ukraine’s MFA Deputy & the land of make-believe
https://t.me/IntelRepublic/48813
When you observe that reality does not in any way match with your world view you can either change your world view or deny reality.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 4 2025 15:56 utc | 29
Color me skeptic:
“Earlier this week a suspect was arrested over the murder of former Ukrainian parliamentary speaker and hardline nationalist Andriy Parubiy…”Tuesday a suspect was arrested and he confessed to the murder…Urgent investigative actions are currently under way to establish all the circumstances” Ukrainian President Zelensky wrote on Telegram””
“actions are currently under way to establish all the circumstances” I read that as “we rounded up a patsy, forced him to confess…now we need to figure out a story that puts him at the scene of the crime“. Because of the the real killers outfit we…and the authorities have no idea of who the shooter is unless…they or their English minders sent the guy so, any patsy will do.
– Can’t link or, even mention the blog here, it’s been repeated censored when I’ve tried, last week just mentioning the name got my comment deleted. I don’t understand the grudge.
Posted by: S Brennan | Sep 4 2025 15:58 utc | 30
Posted by: hopehely | Sep 4 2025 14:51 utc | 23
It is a typo. He meant orcas.
Really? The article repeated that “typo” for a total of 16 times.
Usually you are offended by just one typo… but 16 typos doesn’t elicit any reaction from you. Care to elaborate?
Posted by: Spiridon | Sep 4 2025 16:05 utc | 31
Posted by: Spiridon | Sep 4 2025 16:05 utc | 31
#######
He was kidding.
This is where emojis come into play. An emoji or two can add context and make both dry humor and sarcasm text capable.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2025 16:12 utc | 32
The Jewed-up West seems to have ‘forgotten’ that if Putin feels that Russia is losing its Ukraine campaign, he won’t hesitate to invoke the Nuclear Option.
The only thing we don’t know is who’ll be Nuked first?
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 4 2025 16:12 utc | 33
The countdown to Ukraine completely fracturing internally continues:
In Volhynia, men beat up employees of a [TCC], snatched a gun from them and opened fire on them
Tear gas was fired at the attackers
This is reported by RegioNews with reference to the Volyn regional [TCC-SC].
As noted, on September 4, 2025, a joint alert group consisting of military personnel of the [TCC-SC] of the Volyn region and employees of the National Police alerted citizens in the territory of the city of Lutsk and the Lutsk district.
The [TCC] reported that during their stay in the village of Boratin, four men were found moving along one of the streets, and it was decided to check their military registration documents. Two of them tried to escape and hid in an abandoned three-story building. The alert group followed the men and offered to show them their military registration documents. When trying to check their documents, these individuals began to put up physical resistance and cause injuries to the military personnel of the [TCC].
“In order to stop illegal actions on the part of civilians, one of the servicemen tried to fire a warning shot from a registered traumatic weapon. However, the civilian knocked the gun out of the hands of the military man and picked it up from the floor, opened fire in the direction of the warning group, ” the report says.
An investigative team was working at the scene, the defendants were taken to the police department to establish all the circumstances.
Recall that in August , employees of the [TCC] opened fire on pensioners in Volyn, when they tried to free a man who is unfit for mobilization.
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/volyn/1756995365-na-volini-choloviki-pobili-spivrobitnikiv-ttsk-virvali-u-nih-pistolet-i-vidkrili-po-nih-vogon (via translation add-on.)
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 4 2025 16:13 utc | 34
To me, the news about Indian diesel being sold to Ukraine is just another attempt to put a wedge in BRICS.
http://www.nefterynok.info
Posted by: Passerby | Sep 4 2025 16:51 utc | 35
Orcs. abbreviation for Orchestra? 🙂
Posted by: Mercury | Sep 4 2025 15:51 utc | 28
Hehe.
Maybe, but you have to keep it non-capitalized for a proper effect.
Because capitalizing it would signal respect, and that is no no no.
right spiridonchuk? :-p
Posted by: hopehely | Sep 4 2025 16:58 utc | 36
Posted by: Asian Frog | Sep 4 2025 12:54 utc | 2
Simply world class, Froggie, thankyou.
Posted by: BM | Sep 4 2025 16:58 utc | 37
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2025 16:12 utc | 32
He was counting them. Each and every one. By hand… 16 in total, none capitalized, just the way he likes…
Posted by: hopehely | Sep 4 2025 17:12 utc | 38
Thomas Fazi has published a mind-boggling article on censorship and narrative control by the French micro-empire. It gives insight not only into censorship within the micron empire but of relevance also to the West in general especially France, Germany and the UK. If you have struggled to understand why so many people believe such idiotic and patently untrue narratives about Russia, this is a MUST read. There is a link to a “full report” (pdf downloadable) that I haven’t read yet. Highly recommended.
Posted by: BM | Sep 4 2025 17:14 utc | 39
Rutte is an idiot…………
Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 4 2025 13:19 utc | 5
It’s mandatory for his function.
It’s simple logic : if they are idiot enough, they won’t fear saying or soing anything because they won’t be able to grasp any consequences.
That explain the difference in trolling level between the west and the RoW. See, Lavrov put a CCCP sweat shirt the day before a meeting : the MSM goes mad, Rutte dumb comments will just provoke amused comments in Alex’s Clown World or in the Soloviev talk-show.
Posted by: Savonarole | Sep 4 2025 17:17 utc | 40
comments?
Posted by: pastor | Sep 4 2025 13:34 utc | 10
Since you asked so nicely, the whole article is a wall of assertions without a single substantiating link to any source whatsoever. Without sources to cross-check it is a waste of pixels and bandwidth.
Honestly I’d place more faith in the ISW reporting than that substack.
Any paying subscribers are being ripped off.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 4 2025 17:20 utc | 41
comments?
[link]
Posted by: pastor | Sep 4 2025 13:34 utc | 10
______
Sorry, but context-free links posted by drive-bys aren’t worth clicking on.
Posted by: malenkov | Sep 4 2025 17:27 utc | 42
RF’s economy may be the size of Texas, but that is still one heck of an economy. One of world’s largest, with huge reserves of ng, petroleum, coal, rare earth minerals, wheat and corn and gold. Not bad at all.
Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 4 2025 13:19 utc | 5
You do everyone a disservice by repeating that NATO/US/EU propaganda talking point. Internal and external (sanctions, forex manipulation) forces have devalued the ruble by ridiculous amount, so when converted to dollars, the Russian currency is seriously distorted.
On a PPP basis, Russia’s economy is the 4th largest in the world after China, the US and India. Just ahead of both Germany and Japan…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Sep 4 2025 17:44 utc | 43
A friend is arguing that Russia is purposefully targeting civilians in Ukraine. Can anyone who has any post some links to articles about Ukraine targeting civilians in Ukraine? Either my search terms are no good or a lot of info has been scrubbed from search results. For instance, I remember Ukraine using jets to bomb a concert in I wanna say Donetsk, but I can’t find any articles about it. I wanna shove some reality in his face. Much appreciated!
Posted by: Caveman | Sep 4 2025 18:00 utc | 44
Also looked for a comparison in GDP (Purchasing Power Parity)
Russia about $7.1 Trillion
Texas $2.6 – $2.8 Trillion
So according to GDP (PPP) Russia is about 2.5 times that of Texas
So says the Google AI : )
Posted by: Tux | Sep 4 2025 18:01 utc | 45
@ Caveman | Sep 4 2025 18:00 utc | 44
IMHO…
Not worth your time. Especially because there’s too much “he said, she said”.
Perhaps try ask your friend whether the government ever lied to him about anything, whether the entire MSM carried their water, and what if anything he learned about trusting them without reading not just “slightly alternative” POV but POV that calls them outright liars.
Even that never worked for me though. So…
Posted by: I forgot | Sep 4 2025 18:27 utc | 46
Posted by: I forgot | Sep 4 2025 18:27 utc | 46
I have tried that tack to no avail as well. My usual spiel is ‘They lied to you about Vietnam, they lied to you about Iraq, they lied to you about Afghanistan, but I’m sure they’re telling the truth this time.’ I get a shocked look, then a deflection. I’m looking for articles with citations that will make them have to confront information that they don’t get from MSNBC. Even if they don’t read them, I can then at least cite them.
Posted by: Caveman | Sep 4 2025 18:34 utc | 47
Posted by: Caveman | Sep 4 2025 18:00 utc | 44
Time wasted.
Noone with a functional brain cell could believe that 500+ drones and rockets used in one night, targeting civilians, would end in casualties in the tens.
Posted by: Mario | Sep 4 2025 18:42 utc | 48
NS: Dr Tuomas Malinen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cooOW1qt7Ng
“Finland: the next neocon war.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 4 2025 18:43 utc | 49
There was nothing “wise” or good going to ever come from Russia “communicating” with the West.
Stated that first call Putin ever took.
Iran does the same unwise actions.
Ends up with the same results. Over and over.
“Force” is the only language even considered by West, if anything.
Russia enjoys the drama, if they didn’t, they’d end the debacle and accomplish their goals with quiet dignity, exert their own sanctions, punish collaborators and wholly destroy every part of Ukraine they don’t want to keep for themselves.
They could start with “lights out”.
But, Kremlin too busy playing accommodating victim to actually make anything more reasonable & sensible for their own soldiers on the ground. So, sports spectacle amphitheater remains “the plan”…
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 4 2025 18:53 utc | 50
Posted by: Mario | Sep 4 2025 18:42 utc | 48
Ha! Solid argument. Kind of embarrassed that I didn’t think of it myself! Just used it, thank you!
Posted by: Caveman | Sep 4 2025 18:54 utc | 51
European Leaders Tout Unity, Expression of US Support After Ukraine War Summit
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-war-euro-coalition-meeting-1.7624807
“The [Cdn] prime minister affirmed Canada’s steadfast commitment to the coalition and its willingness to deploy direct and scalable military assistance…”
Alexander Mercouris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MLA6W1osmg
“Zelensky illegitimate no point meeting him, Russia winning; Kiev loses hope – EU seeks freeze.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 4 2025 19:06 utc | 52
Caveman – most civilian casualties in the Ukraine are the result of falling Ukronazi AA missile ordinance, not RF missile strikes.
The Ukronazi’s launch thousands of these AA missiles and AAA ordinance every single day, and they have to fall somewhere.
This is NEVER acknowledged by the western MSM now operating as the Ukronazi propaganda arm.
Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 4 2025 19:10 utc | 53
An agreement has already been made to move Western troops into the western part of Ukraine. They will establish a no fly zone over that area and secure the Ukrainian rear, which will allow Ukraine to transfer many troops to the east in preparation for the autumn counter offensive.
Ukraine considers that, as a sovereign state, it can invite any country to place its troops on its territory. Russia will then have to face a war that cannot win and that will lead to the end of russia as a state and a people.
Posted by: Louis | Sep 4 2025 19:25 utc | 54
Trubind1 | Sep 4 2025 18:53 utc | 50
Communication is good. The strange behavior is when there is no learning process, ever. Like ‘muricans say: “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 40 years, I love you”
@tobias cole | Sep 4 2025 19:10 utc | 53
And they put them in the middle of the city, like one of their sponsors also does. And when nothing drops back on their heads, they do it Bucha style.
Posted by: rk | Sep 4 2025 19:29 utc | 55
lol,
All the proposal from the west about no fly zone, boots on the ground etc suppose a ceasefire has been reached, which will never occur. Hence they can agree on whatever they want it doesn’t matter.
Posted by: scc | Sep 4 2025 19:30 utc | 56
Sorry, but context-free links posted by drive-bys aren’t worth clicking on.
Posted by: malenkov | Sep 4 2025 17:27 utc | 42
Seconded.
Especially when it comes from a troll.
Evidence: it was approved by Louis Ducon.
Posted by: Naive | Sep 4 2025 19:39 utc | 57
@ Louis | Sep 4 2025 19:25 utc | 54
On the other hand, we have this:
“Discontent and disappointment” reigns among European leaders after a “heated telephone conversation” between members of the coalition of the willing and US President Donald Trump. This was reported by the Bild newspaper, citing sources.
According to Bild, a sharp telephone conversation took place on Thursday between Trump and the heads of European states and governments, including German Chancellor Friedrich Merz.
“According to Bild, the European side does not expect Trump to agree to sanctions against Russia, even after a telephone conversation on Thursday,” the report says.
According to Bild, Trump accused the EU of the fact that countries continue to buy Russian oil, and thus help the Russian side.
According to the newspaper, the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, tried to object, stressing that oil imports from Russia had significantly decreased after the outbreak of the conflict in Ukraine.
Source: Telegram “izvestia”
https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/09/04/1658651.html
The West can’t even negotiate with itself properly any more, co-ordinating a deployment of multinational troops into an active war zone just is not going to happen, well, not unless they have learnt to march in time with the Benny Hill theme music…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 4 2025 19:41 utc | 58
And again Louis Ducon is showing that he is a liar.
Remember Piotr Tolstoï: “We will kill them all.”
Posted by: Naive | Sep 4 2025 19:41 utc | 59
https://tgstat.ru/en/channel/@DDGeopolitics/159133
[…] In Europe, 50 bcm of Russian gas is worth $16.5 billion today. U.S. LNG for the same volume would cost around $25 billion (Financial Times), while direct purchase from Russia, based on recent Gazprom deals with China, would be roughly $6–6.5 billion (Moscow Times [this is actually a Dutch based misinformation outlet withouth any links to Russia itself so it could be double, but still]). Europe’s cheap Russian pipeline gas, once the backbone of German and Western European industry, will now flow east, securing China a stable, affordable energy supply. […]
EU foreign policy chief Kaja Kallas, in her reflection on history, perfectly illustrates the actual value and mindset of today’s EU leadership class […]
By divorcing itself off not just sanity and decency, but also from affordable Russian gas under Anglo-American pressure, Europe has eliminated any realistic chance of industrial recovery and viable economic future. The global energy map is being rewritten: the decline of Europe is accelerating, western internal crises deepen, and the Anglo-American ruling elites risk losing their influence as former colonies—particularly China and India—rise strategically and economically. Europe faces the final collapse of its industrial and geopolitical relevance, while the Anglo-American elites lose their only truly successful historical project: the self-proclaimed “indispensable,” “inevitable,” and “most powerful” – “rules based international order”.
The latter, the US empire’s “rules based international order”, can already be seen in several ways. The first, Europe’s industrial decline at the hand of 5th columnists with their “wiggly tails”, seems irreversible.
Posted by: xor | Sep 4 2025 19:43 utc | 60
Posted by: scc | Sep 4 2025 19:30 utc | 56
Exactly. Otherwise no use to reply to a supporter of the ukronazis.
Posted by: Naive | Sep 4 2025 19:43 utc | 61
Posted by: Louis | Sep 4 2025 14:10 utc | 16
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If you find this substack rather accurate, I would recommend the YT channel “The Military Show”. It will certainly please you even more.
Posted by: scc | Sep 4 2025 19:44 utc | 62
RE:
@tobias cole | Sep 4 2025 19:10 utc | 53
I think “communication is good” is a modern trope that falls flat as evidence that some situations and people you simply steer clear of as no good is going to come of it.
Russia still has West leanings , and is not cured of its infatuations of “belonging” yet.
China does very well keeping communication minimalist.
North Korea may not be a global power or any global “partners” or prestige, however, their sanity is intact, and they respond with force for force initiated. No need to be victim drama queens.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 4 2025 19:45 utc | 63
An extract from: https://europeanconservative.com/articles/analysis/we-should-all-stop-pretending-there-will-be-european-troops-in-ukraine/
Whatever contingent the Europeans sent to Ukraine would, therefore, be outside the NATO—i.e., American—security umbrella, meaning Europe would have to fend for itself.
Unfortunately for Macron, Starmer, Merz, and their dilettante colleagues in the European Commission, the idea of Europe ‘fending for itself’ in such circumstances is laughable. As things stand, the European Union simply does not hold the military and industrial resources to pose a credible deterrent to the Russian president.
@ Louis | Sep 4 2025 19:25 utc | 54
Would you like any more debunking?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 4 2025 19:51 utc | 64
Italy said that they will not send troops. The others that they will send troop in case of a ceasefire or a peace. But which one is it?
And why not to send troops now?
Answer: because they are cowards.
Did they ask their citizens? Nope. No one does it. And after they say that it is a fight of democracies agains dictatorships.
Well, yes it is. The western countries are the dictartoships. Macron’s approval is less than 25%.
Posted by: Naive | Sep 4 2025 19:53 utc | 65
Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 4 2025 19:10 utc | 53
Yes, this is definitely true. I guess what I’m really looking for is pre-SMO info about Ukraine targeting civilians in the east, stuff from like 2014 on. I also just remembered the Crimean beach attack last year, when the Ukrainians killed and maimed a bunch of civilians that they themselves consider to be Ukrainian citizens with cluster bombs. Things like that, which are fairly undisputed, would be handy.
Posted by: Caveman | Sep 4 2025 20:01 utc | 66
Rutte: NATO armed forces into the Ukraine meat grinder 🌀 🧨
Rutte believes Russia and Putin are getting too much attention. “We have to stop making Putin too powerful. He’s the governor of Texas, nothing more,” Mark said, likely referring to the limited size of the Russian economy.
Decision is up to Ukraine 🤣
Posted by: Oui | Sep 4 2025 12:28 utc | 1
Nato know how to pick them!
Did he get special boy prizes for trash talk in school.
Posted by: jpc | Sep 4 2025 20:04 utc | 67
Well, yes it is. The western countries are the dictartoships. Macron’s approval is less than 25%.
Posted by: Naive | Sep 4 2025 19:53 utc | 65
Probably on the optimistic side.
Posted by: jpc | Sep 4 2025 20:05 utc | 68
Posted by: Caveman | Sep 4 2025 20:01 utc | 66
I naïvely say ‘fairly undisputed.’ It’s all disputed. I hate people who muddy the waters of truth for personal gain. The liars, the manipulators, the sociopaths and scumbags. People who obscure the truth for others are in no short supply in our corrupt western societies. What to do, what to do…
Posted by: Caveman | Sep 4 2025 20:12 utc | 69
Rutte is an idiot…………
Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 4 2025 13:19 utc | 5
You’re being insulting to idiots there I think.
Posted by: jpc | Sep 4 2025 20:14 utc | 70
Rutte Rutte Rutte…mocking Russias economy while the CIA fact book, IMF and the world bank ranked Russia fourth in the world by GDP/PPP (2024), and soggy old klompenlund does even rank in the top twenty. Man, what an absolute moron.
Posted by: nwwoods | Sep 4 2025 20:15 utc | 71
The eurocucks are playing right into Trump’s hands. He wants them to surrender, and they are, defacto.
Posted by: seer | Sep 4 2025 20:23 utc | 72
@ caveman
> get a shocked look, then a deflection
Then stop. Because they FAILED to incorporate blob confessions about the past into their heuristics to interpret the present, they are not equipped to perceive the present accurately. These people lack agency. They’re NPC’s.
I’m speaking from experience.
I’m sorry about for your friends. When you learn how few people around you “learn” anything other than the top-down programming, you discover you’re an alien.
If you still try, hopefully your results surpass mine. Good luck, Obi Juan.
Posted by: I forgot | Sep 4 2025 20:34 utc | 73
Hey pastor. Take a fn hike and be sure to take your UkroNazi propaganda with you. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass
Posted by: nwwoods | Sep 4 2025 20:54 utc | 74
I imagine that the target of the european leaders comments is their own constituents.
It is a little hard to see why they would bother to make such unsupportable comments, loudly and repeatedly (ad nauseam).
My best guess at the moment would be that they are in the mode of trying to justify their grande spending schemes which they hope to implement in order to inject life into their sagging economies.
Posted by: jared | Sep 4 2025 20:57 utc | 75
I hope Kremlin will drop the “Peace talk” bullshit and use psychohistorian’s Conditional Surrender instead.
Posted by: Suresh | Sep 4 2025 21:07 utc | 76
On purchasing power parity and real GDP basis Russia is either 4th or 5th largest economy in the world, leaving Germany, UK, France combined in the dust. They might be on par with Japan.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2025 13:43 utc | 11
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Even that could be an undercount based on the fact Russia has a bigger shadow economy than Japan and doesn’t report certain things. Nor add in hookers & blow, to inflate stats like the Eurocucks do.
On the other subject NATOland ain’t sending sh*t under their own flags, they’d have done so already if they could.
The “mighty” armies and fleets of Macronland the YooKay and Lesser West Germany are still shrinking.
Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 4 2025 21:28 utc | 77
comments?
rogue systems post
Posted by: pastor | Sep 4 2025 13:34 utc | 10
I don’t think the russian military has much left running on gasoline, they used to but I think they have re-engined o replaced most. That makes me doubtful about the accuracy of the rest.
Posted by: Satepestage | Sep 4 2025 21:35 utc | 78
Hey moderator/b whoever/whatever – you banned a good friend of mine – abrogard – and it appears you blocked his IP so no one from his household can use your site either. And you banned him, he assumes, because of his involvement with ad hominen abusive badmouths. Instead of banning them.
So now make some attempt to demonstrate some even handedness and ban this twerp:
Hey pastor. Take a fn hike and be sure to take your UkroNazi propaganda with you. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass
Posted by: nwwoods | Sep 4 2025 20:54 utc | 74
OR: admit that’s the level of your venue.
Posted by: pastor | Sep 4 2025 21:35 utc | 79
Posted by: I forgot | Sep 4 2025 20:34 utc | 73
I get what you mean, but what truly bugs me out is they get it on so many levels. They know Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and current narratives favored by the powerful surrounding Gaza are all built on complete lies. Yet with this one example, they cannot see the empire for its crimes. They see instead Russian imperialism, which is but a wish in Putin’s mind (he’s said as much). I think it has to do with years of the Russians being under every American’s bed. They cannot shake the Cold War stereotypes and feelings about Russia. Someone in another thread brought up Crimestop from Orwell regarding this topic. That does seem to explain it, but these people seem like they would be aware of such things and would allow the thought to be thought. Either way, I will continue, Don Quixote-like, to tilt at their windmills.
Posted by: Caveman | Sep 4 2025 21:38 utc | 80
@ Caveman | Sep 4 2025 21:38 utc | 80
It is said that “friends don’t let friends do stupid things…alone”.
We never met. But I will hold your beer while you try. Good luck, my man.
Posted by: I forgot | Sep 4 2025 22:00 utc | 81
@ Caveman | Sep 4 2025 21:38 utc | 80
It is said that “friends don’t let friends do stupid things…alone”.
We never met. But I will hold your beer while you try. Good luck, my man.
Posted by: I forgot | Sep 4 2025 22:01 utc | 82
Borzzikman reports that Chairman Kim offered 100k troops to Putin to lock down the Donbass.
Word is that Putin is considering it.
Kim would do this to further the sharing of military and scientific knowledge, as well as to “blood” his troops.
IMO, deploying troops for the DPRK is very smart for domestic propaganda purposes. Heap some honor on NK troops, which is excellent for maintaining patriotism.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2025 22:02 utc | 83
North Korean Commandos are excellent urban fighters and sappers, which are particularly dangerous roles that Russians would otherwise have to fill.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2025 22:04 utc | 84
A friend is arguing that Russia is purposefully targeting civilians in Ukraine. Can anyone who has any post some links to articles about Ukraine targeting civilians in Ukraine? Either my search terms are no good or a lot of info has been scrubbed from search results. For instance, I remember Ukraine using jets to bomb a concert in I wanna say Donetsk, but I can’t find any articles about it. I wanna shove some reality in his face. Much appreciated!
Posted by: Caveman | Sep 4 2025 18:00 utc | 44
You only need refer to the eight years of shelling of Donbas by kiev ukraine, let them research that for themselves.
And point out to them, perhaps, that when russia send 600 drones/missiles in one night if they were trying to target civilians there ought to be some significant numbers of dead wouldn’t you think?
Then you could point to selected TG channels.
Perhaps this would help:
crimes of ukraine
The thing is the rabid (not the ordinary) kiev ukrainians are like Netanyahu’s israelis: their whole objective is literally to exterminate all Donbasians, men women and children. That’s home come after three and more years of war you still have never heard any expression of concern for the 10 million of their own compatriots: the 10 million Donbas Ukrainains, as were – that they insist are suffering so badly under the Russian yoke.
Why not? Because they have written them off. To them they simply do not exist as Ukrainians. To them they are ‘Russians’ and slated for extermination. They want their land: the Donbas. Not the people. They don’t want to ‘rescue’ the people, it is Russia that is rescuing people.
It is in my experience next door to impossible to talk sense to ‘lovers of ukraine’. Impossible. They stand on Donbas land they have invaded and occupied shooting at fellow Ukrainains and insisting they are repelling a Russian invasion. They are stark, staring, raving mad.
Posted by: pastor | Sep 4 2025 22:08 utc | 85
“Blob”.
Nice neat non descriptive word to deflect blame from the perpetrators.
It not the fucking “Blob”.
It’s the US and it’s subservient Western governments.
They maybe getting their marching orders from MIC, oligarchs or cults. Doesn’t matter in the least. Those fuckers don’t have a standing military or strangle hold on SWIFT.
Take your “blob” deflection and stick up your arse.
Posted by: Suresh | Sep 4 2025 22:10 utc | 88
“Blob”.
Nice neat non descriptive word to deflect blame from the perpetrators.
It not the fucking “Blob”.
It’s the US and it’s subservient Western governments.
They maybe getting their marching orders from MIC, oligarchs or cults. Doesn’t matter in the least. Those fuckers don’t have a standing military or strangle hold on SWIFT.
Take your “blob” deflection and stick up your arse.
Posted by: Suresh | Sep 4 2025 22:10 utc | 89
typo in last post. should have been ‘…how come..’ not ‘home come..’
Posted by: pastor | Sep 4 2025 22:10 utc | 90
typo in last post. should have been ‘…how come..’ not ‘home come..’
Posted by: pastor | Sep 4 2025 22:11 utc | 91
sorry about the double post. the system gave an error so I tried again. won’t be so quick to do that next time.
Posted by: pastor | Sep 4 2025 22:13 utc | 92
@ Posted by: Caveman | Sep 4 2025 21:38 utc | 80
I found that vast majority of Westerners simply don’t understand what Ukraine is. They see it’s another country on a map, and it’s not Russia. So, it’s not Russia’s bussiness. What they fail to understand is that Ukraine as a country appeared within their lifetime, its eastern part is populated with millions of Russians that got separated by a state border when they woke up one morning in 1991. Russia accepted new state of things because Ukraine swore in its founding Declaration of Independence to be forever neutral. Who cares if there’s a border? But when 2014 coup happenned and new anti-Russian regime was installed, trampled on all promises, Constitution, and Russians were getting massacred.
What country is expected to silently watch as their people, sometimes literal blood relatives are getting murdered and fail to protect them because of the imaginary line on a map? Also by breaking neutrality clause, Ukraine violated its founding provisions, so its very existence can be called into question.
Posted by: taukey | Sep 4 2025 22:15 utc | 93
@ Posted by: Caveman | Sep 4 2025 21:38 utc | 80
I found that vast majority of Westerners simply don’t understand what Ukraine is. They see it’s another country on a map, and it’s not Russia. So, it’s not Russia’s bussiness. What they fail to understand is that Ukraine as a country appeared within their lifetime, its eastern part is populated with millions of Russians that got separated by a state border when they woke up one morning in 1991. Russia accepted new state of things because Ukraine swore in its founding Declaration of Independence to be forever neutral. Who cares if there’s a border? But when 2014 coup happenned and new anti-Russian regime was installed, trampled on all promises, Constitution, and Russians were getting massacred.
What country is expected to silently watch as their people, sometimes literal blood relatives are getting murdered en masse and fail to protect them because of the imaginary line on a map? Also by breaking neutrality clause, Ukraine violated its founding provisions, so its very existence can be called into question by Russia.
Posted by: taukey | Sep 4 2025 22:18 utc | 94
Posted by: Suresh | Sep 4 2025 22:10 utc | 88
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“blob” is like 3LA. If one cannot name an individual…
Every group consists of individuals.
Who is the blob?
They can’t be named because specificity is dangerously close to accountability.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2025 22:18 utc | 95
Posted by: pastor | Sep 4 2025 22:08 utc | 85
Thanks for that compilation link, much appreciated! The eight years of shelling of Donbass civilians is a trap my liberal-thinking friends tend to set up for themselves and walk right into. There is quite a bit of ‘people are being killed by Russia, they deserve justice!’ And, well, you can see the trap they’re in. Again, once they are in the trap, there is deflection. The lives of Donbass civilians indeed are relegated to second class status.
Posted by: taukey | Sep 4 2025 22:18 utc | 94
Indeed, you are correct. One of my friends told me that Russia wiped out the Ukrainians living in the Donbass during the ‘Holodomor,’ and replaced them with ethnic Russians. I’m by no means a historical expert, but I’m pretty sure that nothing like that happened at all.
Posted by: Caveman | Sep 4 2025 22:38 utc | 96
Posted by: Satepestage | Sep 4 2025 21:35 utc | 78
Thanks for that. Thanks for reading it.
It worried/worries me for the military events/situations it claims. Not for his opinions regarding the world generally.
When he says in his concluding paras:
“…the Ukrainians are still way ahead of everyone else in developing the proper reply to authoritarian ambitions everywhere. Best learn from their example.”
He’s so far away from the truth it’s laughable (but normal with kiev ukrainians perhaps). So it’s refutation of his military observations I’d like to see but there seems a vast disinterest hereabouts. 🙂 Or perhaps interest but vast lack of better knowledge.
Posted by: pastor | Sep 4 2025 22:41 utc | 97
Wow!
You are back
what happened. i have withdrawal symptoms
Posted by: watcher | Sep 6 2025 8:05 utc | 98
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2025 13:43 utc | 11
On purchasing power parity and real GDP basis Russia is either 4th or 5th largest economy in the world, leaving Germany, UK, France combined in the dust. They might be on par with Japan.Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 4 2025 21:28 utc | 77
Even that could be an undercount based on the fact Russia has a bigger shadow economy than Japan and doesn’t report certain things. Nor add in hookers & blow, to inflate stats like the Eurocucks do.
In science and engineering all measures are standardized with respect to reference points. For instance, all weights in the MKS system are with reference to the standard kilogram bar stored in an institution in Paris.
In economics, the raw GDP is an imprecise measure of the size of an economy for comparative purposes because it is not referenced to a standard point. Only non-professional, non-technical, uninformed persons and propagandists would use raw GDP for comparative purposes.
GDP-PPP is a standardized measure of the size of en economy because it is referenced to a standard basket of essential items. The calculation of GDP PPP is done thru an enormous international statistical program coordinated by the World Bank.
This is the ranking posted by the WB for the status in 2024:
Key Rank Millions US$
CHN 1 38190085
USA 2 29184890
IND 3 16190820
RUS 4 6921249
JPN 5 6407672
DEU 6 6037852
BRA 7 4734651
IDN 8 4662888
FRA 9 4201560
GBR 10 4196506
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 6 2025 8:58 utc | 99
https://avia-pro.net/news/ministerstvo-voyny-ssha-mozhet-smestit-prioritety-so-sderzhivaniya-kitaya-i-rossii-na
The much anticipated US pull back from Pacific,Indian Ocean and Eurasia starting as a trickle. Anticipated to gain momentum in tantem with treasurey bond rates.