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September 15, 2025
Ukraine – As ‘Security Guarantees’ Get Buried Other Stupid Ideas Emerge

Two weeks ago the Foreign Minister of Poland Radosław Sikorski visited Washington and was proud to be included in talks about 'security guarantees' for Ukraine. His ministry announced:

Secretary of State Rubio declared that Poland will be involved in arrangements to reliably provide Ukraine with future security guarantees. He said that the United States aims to guarantee a lasting peace in Ukraine.

But now Sikorski is, rightfully one must say, doubting the usefulness of any 'security guarantees':

The security guarantees currently being discussed for Ukraine are unlikely to work in the event of a new invasion, since there are no hunters in the West to fight with Russia. This was stated by Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski.

"If we provide Ukraine with security guarantees, we say that we can start a war against Russia. And I don't think it's convincing that there is trust in it. Anyone who wants to fight with Russia can start it right now. But I don't see any takers," Sikorsky said.

There will never be any takers. Can we now finally bury that 'security guarantee' nonsense?

But Sikorski, being a neo-conservative, is still trying to push others into fighting with Russia:

Poland’s foreign minister called on NATO countries to impose a no-fly zone over Ukraine to protect Europe from Russian strikes amid the continuing fallout over the drone incursion into Poland last week, which prompted the U.S.-led alliance to scramble fighter jets.

“We as NATO and the E.U. could be capable of doing this, but it is not a decision that Poland can make alone; it can only be made with its allies,” he said. “Protection for our population — for example, from falling debris — would naturally be greater if we could combat drones and other flying objects beyond our national territory.”

“If Ukraine were to ask us to shoot them down over its territory, that would be advantageous for us. If you ask me personally, we should consider it,” he added.

The idea is as stupid as earlier ones. Russia would consider any foreign military stationing or actions like a no-fly zone in Ukraine as a war on itself:

Russia would consider NATO forces protecting Ukrainian airspace as a declaration of war, former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev said on Monday.

"Implementing the provocative idea of Kiev and other idiots to create a no-fly zone over 'Ukraine' and allowing NATO countries to down our drones will mean only one thing: NATO's war with Russia," the politician wrote on his Telegram channel.

Sikorski's latest idea thus has the same problem as 'security guarantees'. There will be no takers:

The United States and its major allies in NATO, including Britain, have previously rejected requests by Ukraine for no-fly zone that because of the high risk of direct combat with Russian aircraft, and there has been no indication that President Donald Trump is considering such a step — especially without Russian agreeing to a ceasefire.

No takers. At all.


(The last quoted graph has at least three grammar mistakes in it. Is the Washington Post no longer proofreading its pieces?)

Comments

The essence of Western policy wrt Ukraine is this: “let’s you and him fight.” I remember bullies like that in grade school. They’re all long dead now.

Posted by: NH | Sep 15 2025 16:27 utc | 1

Image Russian MiGs doing a “F-16 Sweep” over Kiev….
Just like Vietnam!
U$$A and vassal air defenses have been operating in Kiev zones since March 2022! The only change Sikorski (Annie Appelbaum hubby) suggests is US fighter aircraft flying sweeps, to be engaged by Russia,

Posted by: paddy | Sep 15 2025 16:30 utc | 2

Everyone in the mob is afraid that when they charge at the bear they will find that when reaching the bear everyone else has hung back and they are left facing the bear alone. Who is going to be the biggest fool in the mob of cowards?
Their courage evaporated when they realized there would be no US boots on the ground.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 15 2025 16:33 utc | 3

It goes like this Ukraine must surrender unconditionally to get security guarantees from Russia , otherwise the war will continue. The defeat of Ukraine is because of NATO. NATO put everything but the kitchen sink into the conflict and has no ability to offer Ukraine anything but unconditional surrender.

Posted by: Cheryl | Sep 15 2025 16:35 utc | 4

Proofreading costs money. And when your audience is at best semi-literate, a waste of money.

Posted by: Bam_Man | Sep 15 2025 16:35 utc | 5

nato is at war with russia.. it needs to be said… they might think they are being coy about it, but they aren’t…
the only security guarantees that will happen will be when russias security concerns are acknowledged and they haven’t been..
thanks b…

Posted by: james | Sep 15 2025 16:54 utc | 6

With this betrayal Russia is going to lose Serbian support forever.
Posted by: vargas | Sep 15 2025 15:16 utc | 126
Maybe, but do you like that or not?
Posted by: hopehely | Sep 15 2025 16:11 utc | 137
Of course not.
Russia betrayed or sold Serbia to EU and their puppets

Posted by: vargas | Sep 15 2025 17:01 utc | 7

It no longer matters that Ukraine can’t win the war: what matters is that NATO can extend the hostilities w/ Russia, using what’s left of Ukraine as a fig-leaf raison d’etre, and keep escalating further. By hosting Kiev’s missile-building site, for instance, Denmark has demonstrated its cynical and malign effort to provide Ukraine w/ the materiel to strike targets 3000km inside Russia, thereby intensifying the conflict.
Zakharova has rightly termed this “terrorism.”
The tough thing is that the zero-sum example Israel has demonstrated in its battle w/ Hamas, combining war crimes & terrorism hand-over-fist, has set a new *norm* of how liberal democracies are free to conduct their battles. “In displaying its military supremacy w/ such audacity, Israel is marking itself out as an important ally against future threats from Iran,” an op-edder in The Telegraph, Sir Richard Kemp, crowed in praise of Bibi’s decapitation strike against Tehran.
Normalized by the Israelis, and praised in legacy media, the terroristic/war-crime mash-up style of taking the fight to the enemy has become accepted in the Western world.
What Zakharova calls “terrorism,” they call winning.
And Denmark, w/ its solid fuel missile-building facility in South Jutland, wants to be a winner.
Stepping out like that, assuming the risk, Denmark will instead wear a huge target: the high nail, if you like, inviting the hammer’s blow.
When South Jutland gets atomized under the plasma-heat of an Oreshnik, DJT will not invoke Article 5, however.
He will instead use Denmark’s foolish miscalculation in order to liberate Greenland, a tasty tidbit there for the taking.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 15 2025 17:04 utc | 8

Poland’s foreign minister called on NATO countries to impose a no-fly zone over Ukraine to protect Europe from Russian strikes amid the continuing fallout over the drone incursion into Poland last week, which prompted the U.S.-led alliance to scramble fighter jets.

“We as NATO and the E.U. could be capable of doing this, but it is not a decision that Poland can make alone; it can only be made with its allies,” he said. “Protection for our population — for example, from falling debris — would naturally be greater if we could combat drones and other flying objects beyond our national territory.”

Those poor nazi bastards in Kiev and Galicia have had enough of Banderastan’s own ancient S-300 missiles who are randomly taking out residential buildings here and there (they’ve even cryptically admitted it by claiming Russia had attacked with S-300s which “hit their target” https://unn.ua/en/amp/russia-attacked-ukraine-with-s-300-missiles-and-84-drones-59-uavs-neutralized ) in their futile attempts to intercept a Russian hypersonic Kinzhal or Kh-101, now all they needed were even more useless Patriot and SAMP/T systems! /sarcoff

Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Sep 15 2025 17:04 utc | 9

@4
The kitchen sink that U$$A held back was the type of AirPower overmatch that it used in its colonial wars: Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Iran.
None of those kitchen sinks worked and the Kiev locale lacks basing, and is not like running bombers where targets are not defended.

Posted by: paddy | Sep 15 2025 17:07 utc | 10

Poland and other bankrupt Nato states could technically send their F-16s to fly over Lwow and Iwano-Frankowsk to shoot down drones, as that is where their range from a Polish base like Rzeswow is enough. All Nato efforts to build self-sustaining air bases in Ukraine were obliterated by Russian drones and missiles, so Nato doesn’t have bases capable of rearming in Ukraine.
The question is whether Russia is capable of shooting down those jets, if they were flying over as deep as Kiev or Zhitomir. Certainly from Belarus it would be possible. Su-57 could also be used. Nato jets over Zhitomir and Kiev would be operating at extreme ranges, have very little loitering time for taking down drones they are intended to do.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2025 17:09 utc | 11

President Putin, the lawyer, the stickler to the letter of international law in case of SMO, and in case of MH-17, in the case of NS-2 sabotage – should demand international commission to investigate the drones which were downed on Polish territory. By the same token, he should demand international intervention in case of Gaza horrendous genocide. I am getting annoyed with Russians.

Posted by: fanto | Sep 15 2025 17:17 utc | 12

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 15 2025 17:04 utc | 8
RE: the fig-leaf raison d’etre
<<
Zakharova has noted that NATO will continue to "invent new theses" to keep the Russophobia afloat.
It's a bummer, of course, as far as strategies go—but it *works* for NATO to such an extent that they are little incentivized to give it up.
Each new thesis injects their failing Project Ukraine w/ what they perceive as *new life,* another way to stick it to Russia and—moonshot—precipitate Russia's collapse.
A neocon obeisant media in the West bigs up the new thesis and amplifies it across the news-cycle.
Next, Lady vdL or Macron or Starmer book a sit-down in the Oval.
DJT blasts something across Truth Social.
Because they are all bloviating to each other and performing for each other and grandstanding before the camras, the NATO leadership represent a closed echo-chamber, often w/ DJT riding sidecar.
It's a semi-automatic loop, a self-licking ice cream cone, a casualty of investing Heaven & Earth in a neo-Nazi regime in Kiev, but the pain is not great enough to force them to give the gambit up.
Project Ukraine consumes 97% of its weight in excess reality.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 15 2025 17:18 utc | 13

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2025 17:09 utc | 11
If nato fly aircrafts from Poland air bases, according to RF declarations, the air bases and the country itself would be considered belligerent.
Certainly rzsewowvis is in range of various Russian missiles.

Posted by: Mario | Sep 15 2025 17:18 utc | 14

Any day now, Trump’s plan to threaten Russia with nukes and make China and Russia fight each other will work now.

If Donald Trump were still president, he told Fox Business on Monday, he would threaten Russia with nuclear submarines.
“We say, ‘Oh, he’s a nuclear power,’” Trump said. “But we’re a greater nuclear power. We have the greatest submarines in the world, the most powerful machines ever built …
“You should say, ‘Look, if you mention that word one more time, we’re going to send them over and we’ll be coasting back and forth, up and down your coast. You can’t let this tragedy continue. You can’t let these, these thousands of people die.”
Trump has already said Biden should threaten Russia with nuclear attack. He has also said the US should put the Chinese flag on F-22 jets and “bomb the shit out of Russia”, and then “say, ‘China did it, we didn’t do it, China did it,’ and then they start fighting with each other and we sit back and watch”.
When Trump was in power, in 2018, he announced that the US would withdraw from a cold war nuclear weapons treaty which kept US and Russian nuclear weapons out of Europe. It duly did so.
Though he courted the dictator in Pyongyang, Trump also told Kim Jong-un he had a “much bigger and more powerful” nuclear button and would answer any threats “with fire and fury like the world has never seen”.
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/23/donald-trump-nuclear-weapons-russia

“>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/23/donald-trump-nuclear-weapons-russia
Pay attention to the date. 2022. In 2025, Trump is blaming China for the American proxy war against Russia and Trump is deploying nuclear subs to threaten Russia. Trump kept to his word. Bravo! That means we’re headed towards global nuclear annihilation, all thanks to the nihilist president.
Full article contains more gems from Trump’s peace plans in his 2nd presidency.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Sep 15 2025 17:23 utc | 15

Foreign Minister of Poland Radosław Sikorski

His full name is Radosław “thank you America” Sikorski

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2025 17:27 utc | 16

Truck with NAFO logo on it ambushed by special forces.
https://x.com/RWApodcast/status/1967627030230659223

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2025 17:30 utc | 17

Man, troll city today! Russia betrayed Serbia!? The US will make China and Russia fight!?
Try harder, house slaves, try harder. Massa will be disappointed with these half hearted efforts!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 15 2025 17:40 utc | 18

$500,000 missile vs. $1000 drone
I disagree with Medvedev. There is one thing that NATO could do without a danger of ending up in direct conflict with Russia. NATO could intercept Russian drones and missiles in Ukrainian airspace using air defense systems stationed on NATO territory.
This is exactly what Russia did in 2014-15. People in Donbass reposted on Ukrainian Tochka-U ballistic missiles blowing up midair before reaching their targets. It was speculated that they were intercepted by Russian S-400 missiles from Russian territory.
Intercepting ballistic missiles was cost-effective in 2014. It no longer is. Intercepting drones or decoys even less so. The styrofoam Gerbera decoy drone weights about 10 kg and costs maybe $1000 to produce. The Chinese 7 horsepower DLE60 engine costs €510 without tax in the EU, most likely less than $250 in China. Even if a $500,000 Sidewinder missile could hit a Gerbera, the cost effect would be 500 to 1 in Russia’s favor.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 15 2025 17:40 utc | 19

Man, troll city today! Russia betrayed Serbia!? The US will make China and Russia fight!?
Try harder, house slaves, try harder. Massa will be disappointed with these half hearted efforts!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 15 2025 17:40 utc | 20

Ultimately, the “security guarantees” will be the same as Moscow demanded in fall 2021- jan 2022. could have saved everyone a lot of death and destruction by accepting those conditions back then.

Posted by: annie | Sep 15 2025 17:45 utc | 21

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 15 2025 17:40 utc | 19
Nato has no real effective AD systems to intercept drones. NASAMS could be the only one, and things like German Gepard tanks with their gatling gun, but those are very short range point-defense systems. Patriot PAC-3s maybe they could, but that would be a great economic victory for Russia.
They can only use fighter jets. They can’t be based in Ukraine, they could fly over Lwow or Iwano-Frankowsk but not much further.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2025 17:46 utc | 22

The 404 police force is rumored to have an exodus of pre-23yo officers, who quit and move abroad. Not just students flee the country after the border was opened for under 23 year-old males.
Vargas has been around here recently and we need the expert’s opinion on the infinity of eager to fight 404 males post-haste.

Posted by: boneless | Sep 15 2025 17:50 utc | 23

DMZ will extend to the Stettin – Trieste line, exactly as promised in 1991.

Posted by: Exile | Sep 15 2025 17:50 utc | 24

Sikorski does what the missis [Anne Applebaum – arch_Russophobe_neocon] tells him to do.
The Europeans are struggling to get to the ‘acceptance’ stage of grief having lost their BigBet against Russia; the poor dears.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 15 2025 17:57 utc | 25

Thanks for the posting b
As usual I want to interject the MAD context within which our civilization war is progressing….things look different with that prism.
Have all the lines been drawn and sides taken yet or are we in the middle of that process?
A niggling part of me thinks Trump drove India towards China as a poison pill to the axis of resistance given the inherent racism/exceptionalism in that country.
Its a civilization war with the existing God Of Mammon shit show continuing until it doesn’t and the future is all around us but not very evenly distributed yet.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 15 2025 17:59 utc | 26

I doubt any of Russia’s Nato neighbours – will take any action of any significance against Russia, oh they’ll bitch and moan to Trump about this and that, but not much will come of it, simply because none of them wants to get drawn into a war with Russia, and why should they – regardless of what Brussels or Washington says, the EU has already seriously damaged its economies to prop up a Neo-Nazi dictatorship in Ukraine, and at great expense to its citizens, whose standards of living (if not rich) must surely have fallen – along with price rises on the likes of food and fuel.
The Kremlin isn’t stupid – it knows that the likes of Poland and Romania are staging posts for weapons and foreign mercenaries, and even Nato troops to sneak into Ukraine, as well as route and factories for arms to reach Ukraine – why any nation would put its economy, and the health and wealth of its people at risk – to help prop up a vile Neo-Nazi regime in Ukraine, is beyond me, but there ya go – Brussels is itching for a member of the EU to attack Russia – so the likes of von der Leyen can run to Trump and point out Russian aggression, basically – Brussels, is loading the bullets – in the hope some stupid EU nations leader, will fire them at Russia.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 15 2025 18:04 utc | 27

(Posted by b on September 15, 2025 at 16:14 UTC
The last quoted graph has at least three grammar mistakes in it. Is the Washington Post no longer proofreading its pieces?

Here’s my fringe opinion: such errors are on purpose, to prove that the piece was written by humans, not LLMs 🙂
Petri: nice to see you! There’s always a bit of talk about Finland and/or Stubby, and then you’re sorely missed.

Posted by: Konami | Sep 15 2025 18:05 utc | 28

@ b
Proofreading and copy editing are largely extinct. Former bastions of good editing as New Yorker, New York Review of Books, London Review of Books barely bother. It is seen as a cost, and only as a cost. Editors in general are elderly and each retirement or death is a blow from which publishing does not recover

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 15 2025 18:12 utc | 29

In a little while, the ukies will get restless, and that’s when the action starts.

Posted by: seer | Sep 15 2025 18:37 utc | 30

Washington Post versus AI autocorrect grabbed online:
The United States and its major NATO allies (corrected)
The United States and its major allies in NATO (original)
. . . have previously rejected Ukraine’s requests for a no-fly zone due to the high risk of direct combat with Russian aircraft. (corrected)
. . . have previously rejected requests by Ukraine for no-fly zone that because of the high risk of direct combat with Russian aircraft, (original)
There has been no indication that President Donald Trump is considering such a step—especially without Russia agreeing to a ceasefire. (corrected)
. . . and there has been no indication that President Donald Trump is considering such a step — especially without Russian agreeing to a ceasefire. (original)

Posted by: Nothingburgers | Sep 15 2025 18:56 utc | 31

@ Nothingburgers | Sep 15 2025 18:56 utc | 31
Actually it should be “Russia’s agreeing to a ceasefire” — but that little point of grammar is all but forgotten.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 15 2025 19:10 utc | 32

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/23/donald-trump-nuclear-weapons-russia
Posted by: All Under Heaven | Sep 15 2025 17:23 utc | 15
It must be -so- vexing to the Europeans and Muslims that VVP clearly respects President Trump more than they will ever merit. The worst part is, The Guardian is relentlessly devouring any NPCs who don’t get behind the Crimea War re-enactors.
I don’t know if VVP is preparing to attack Europe out of a sense of profound betrayal, or if he simply wants to make an example of weak powers without antagonizing the United States. Nonetheless, I’m eagerly looking forward to Russia scourging the continent.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 15 2025 19:17 utc | 33

Something often overlooked about Russia and China is that they don’t say things unless they are sure and committed.
In the West, a lot gets said, but little of that comes to fruition.
Mature people (and civilizations) listen more than they speak.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 15 2025 19:21 utc | 34

re:
Truck with NAFO logo on it ambushed by special forces.
https://x.com/RWApodcast/status/1967627030230659223
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2025 17:30 utc | 17
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Posted by: tucenz | Sep 15 2025 19:26 utc | 35

I can’t erase the memory of Zelenski declaring that he wants Ukraine to become “a second Israel – only stricter.” Whatever that means. And that was 12 months or so ago.
Since it’s pretty obvious that the fucking Jews own all of the Christian Colonial West’s politicians including NATO/ZATO, someone with more than half a brain should suggest to DJT that he has a frank chat with Bibi to find out what Bibi’s plans for Ukraine & ZATO are?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 15 2025 19:37 utc | 36

@ tucenz | Sep 15 2025 19:26 utc | 35
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Posted by: boneless | Sep 15 2025 19:49 utc | 37

Something often overlooked about Russia and China is that they don’t say things unless they are sure and committed. ***
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 15 2025 19:21 utc | 34
Toxic masculinity negates any authority for the speaker, who by definition is not capable of speaking the truth. Belief that what China and Russia say does not matter (shunning, i.e. “overlooking”) is a feature and not a bug.
For western feminine governments, only narrative matters (Gretel tricking the witch to test the temperature of the oven – character assassination).

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 15 2025 19:53 utc | 38

UK says sending some Typhoon jets to help patrol Poland airspace.

Posted by: Jo | Sep 15 2025 19:58 utc | 39

Polish minister Sikorski claims they have destroyed a ‘Russian drone’ above one of their government buildings. This is all over EU news now.
Looks like Zelensky/British are fanning fuel to the fire. Starmer must be getting desperate too, is on his way out after it turned out he hired Mandelsen, the US ambassador knowing he was Epstein’s ‘best friend’.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2025 20:03 utc | 40

It seems that some sections of the Polish population aren’t too concerned about “security guarantees” for Ukrainian immigrants:

Ukrainians in Poland have started to have the words “To the Front” painted on their cars
In Poland, a movement of local residents for the return of Ukrainian refugees home is manifesting itself. One of the variants of activity of such a movement consists of unscrewing Ukrainian license plates from cars and painting the inscriptions “To the front” on these cars. Several cars were sent “to the front” in Wroclaw.
Similar actions took place in several other Polish cities, including Szczecin and Gdansk.
Poland is the leader among EU countries in the number of accepted Ukrainian refugees. At the same time, the Poles do not hide their irritation that many refugees from the territory of Ukraine, who continue to receive European benefits, have very expensive cars. Among the relatively budget Ford Mondeo and Focus or modifications of Citroen, on the streets of the same Polish cities you can see premium Mercedes and Toyotas with Kyiv or Lviv license plates.
The Poles clearly do not want to end up in the trenches instead of the Ukrainians.

https://en.topwar.ru/270972-na-mashiny-ukraincev-v-polshe-stali-nanosit-nadpisi-na-front.html
Tusk

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 15 2025 20:20 utc | 41

b asked in his posting, “Is the Washington Post no longer proofreading its pieces?”
The answer is, “Probably not.”
That is partly because proofreaders have to be paid, and partly because a large majority of WaPo readers will not notice the errors.
It is a telling comment on the social condition when a native German-speaker is more attentive to English grammar than a flagship US newspaper.

Posted by: Clever Dog | Sep 15 2025 20:41 utc | 42

Written by an ai and proofread by a human who toned down what was not politically correct but inserted additional mistakes.

Posted by: Tom | Sep 15 2025 20:44 utc | 43

I am intrigued at B’s detection of the grammatical incompetence of the item he quotes from the Washington Post.
I read MSM and alternative media every day. I tend to object to the positions I encounter in MSM outlets and to concur with the perspectives offered in alternative outlets such as Moon. However, I have always had to concede that so far as literary competence is concerned, MSM is superior to alternative media, including Moon, whose pieces are sometimes marred by grammatical mistakes and errant word choices.
I have always assumed that the difference in competence results from the fact the MSM can afford to hire proof-readers and editors who find and amend these stylistic imperfections. I looked forward to the time in which Moon and others would find or employ such assistance as would result in their writing being as polished as that of the MSM. It had never occurred to me that the opposite would occur: that MSM would collapse into incompetence.

Posted by: Roger Milbrandt | Sep 15 2025 20:48 utc | 44

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2025 17:46 utc | 22
U.S. APKWS II?

Posted by: ed4 | Sep 15 2025 20:50 utc | 45

As long as kakingrad enclave and Brest in Bélarus can play a 400km radius interdiction I’m fine with it .
Just a joke on the former, but serious on the latter.
RF policy is usually “if it’s in 404 it’s fair game”

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 15 2025 20:53 utc | 46

He will instead use Denmark’s foolish miscalculation in order to liberate Greenland, a tasty tidbit there for the taking.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 15 2025 17:04 utc | 8
Wow!
Not beyond the realms of possibility.
The cannibalistic behaviour of death throes capitalism could yield such an outcome.

Posted by: jpc | Sep 15 2025 20:54 utc | 47

Posted by: jpc | Sep 15 2025 20:54 utc | 47
When Denmark was conquered by Germany, United Kingdom took over the Denmark controlled Faroese Islands and Iceland for itself, and USA took over Greenland.
The same could easily happen again.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2025 20:59 utc | 48

@ steel_porcupine | Sep 15 2025 17:04 utc | 8
The Maersk shipping line is Denmark’s biggest vulnerability; the big exporters among the BRICS nations have a loud, yet quiet, say…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 15 2025 21:11 utc | 49

The same could easily happen again.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2025 20:59 utc | 48
Without the handing back this time.

Posted by: jpc | Sep 15 2025 21:12 utc | 50

It must be -so- vexing to the Europeans and Muslims that VVP clearly respects President Trump more than they will ever merit. The worst part is, The Guardian is relentlessly devouring any NPCs who don’t get behind the Crimea War re-enactors.
I don’t know if VVP is preparing to attack Europe out of a sense of profound betrayal, or if he simply wants to make an example of weak powers without antagonizing the United States. Nonetheless, I’m eagerly looking forward to Russia scourging the continent.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 15 2025 19:17 utc | 33

It must be -so- vexing to the Americans that Muslim Chechnya’s Muslim leader Kadyrov clearly respects President Putin more than they will ever merit. Russia also does not share the Americans’ rabid hatred of Muslims. The worst part is, the rabidly pro-American and anti-Putin Moscow Times is relentlessly devouring any NPCs who don’t get behind the idea that Trump or America is Russia’s good friend. Look at Moscow Times’s glowing reporting of Trump and contrast it against their portrayal of Putin. Look at how desperately Moscow Times tries to divide and conquer Russia on behalf of America by simultaneously insinuating that Russia will betray Chechens any day now while demonizing “Kadyrov, who describes himself as a loyal foot soldier of Russian President Vladimir Putin” for his continued loyalty to Putin.
I don’t know if VVP is preparing to lure American troops into Europe to teach Americans a lesson about starting and supporting wars in other sovereign nations’ borders out of a sense of profound betrayal, or if he simply wants to make an example of the United States while leaving room for rapprochement with Europe, who despite being somewhat reluctant co-imperialists with America, are ultimately Russia’s eternal neighbors and therefore in Russia’s interest to maintain friendly relations with. A Europe that has stable, functioning governments free from Washington’s yoke is definitely in Russia’s best interest. Nonetheless, I’m eagerly looking forward to Russia scourging of America.
Death to America
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Sep 15 2025 21:14 utc | 51

“Mature people (and civilizations) listen more than they speak.”
Good, progress, now standing in front of the mirror and say that to yourself every time you feel the urge to post.

Posted by: David F | Sep 15 2025 21:19 utc | 52

It would be fun to see an F-35 in the wild, just to see it do all the magic attributed to it at $200m a copy … Do it!

Posted by: Cato the Uncensored | Sep 15 2025 21:27 utc | 53

Russia should mass produce intermediate range missiles with nuclear warheads. They can engage European NATO nations. That releases strategic nuclear warheads to focus on USA and Canada. USA fears that eventuality because China is also aiming most of its warheads at USA. Doomed both ways.
Poland and Turkey are becoming a menace and should be handled sooner or later.

Posted by: Jason | Sep 15 2025 21:38 utc | 54

I wouldn’t be so sure that Western politicians won’t find a way to inveigle themselves into the conflict, b. They seem very keen to diminish the size of their populaces “for the planet”.
Their biggest challenge is coming up with a pretext that a sufficient number of their electorates will swallow… otherwise they face being Mussolini’d if/when their gambits fail.

Posted by: Observer | Sep 15 2025 21:39 utc | 55

I don’t know if VVP is preparing to lure American troops into Europe to teach Americans a lesson about starting and supporting wars in other sovereign nations’ borders out of a sense of profound betrayal, or if he simply wants to make an example of the United States while leaving room for rapprochement with Europe, who despite being somewhat reluctant co-imperialists with America, are ultimately Russia’s eternal neighbors and therefore in Russia’s interest to maintain friendly relations with.
Death to America
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Posted by: All Under Heaven | Sep 15 2025 21:14 utc | 51
Lol. Triggered. I don’t even think Europeans believe that Russia will go to war with America, but not Europe. That requires too much delusion even for the EU.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 15 2025 21:40 utc | 56

Thanks to RepubilofSctland and unimperator for the answers to my finnish questions yesterday.

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Sep 15 2025 21:43 utc | 57

Why did the German media write that the target was Rzeszów?
German media claimed that five Russian drones that violated Polish airspace flew directly towards the NATO base in Poland. This was written by “Die Welt”, and “Der Spiegel” indicated that the target was the Rzeszów-Jasionka airport.
These revelations were denied in an interview with TVP Info by the Chief of the General Staff of the Polish Army, General Wiesław Kukuła. In addition, the military officer argued that no one will attack a prepared and mobilized country, and Russia is not ready to strike NATO. At the same time, he noted that Poland must remain constantly vigilant towards Russia, because the Russian authorities still perceive Poland as a danger.
https://dorzeczy.pl/kraj/779766/po-co-niemieckie-media-pisaly-ze-celem-dronow-byl-rzeszow.html

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Sep 15 2025 21:54 utc | 58

The State Protection Service neutralized a drone operating over government buildings and the Belvedere. Two Belarusian citizens were detained. The police are investigating the circumstances of the incident.
https://dorzeczy.pl/kraj/779745/dron-nad-belwederem-zatrzymano-dwoch-obywateli-bialorusi.html

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Sep 15 2025 21:56 utc | 59

“If we provide Ukraine with security guarantees,….”
Posted by b on September 15, 2025 at 16:14
I think the following makes a very important point.
That needs to be more widely known.
And, it would be interesting to know the legal situation.
WHAT IF THE RUSSIANS HAD CONDUCTED THE COUP IN 2014?
In 2014 the United States (aligned with a faction in the Ukrainian government) conducted a coup in Kiev (to replace the democratically elected Yanukovich government which was considered insufficiently pro-Europe).
Many in Eastern Ukraine rebelled against this coup-government.
A civil war began.
The coup-government claimed authority over all of Ukraine
and called itself “the Ukrainian government”.
The coup-government sent in the military to deal with the eastern rebels.
The media claimed, and still claims, that the U.S. backed coup-government had a “right” to all of Ukraine and they champion (vigorously support) a march to the Russian border.

WHAT IF THE FOLLOWING HAD HAPPENED IN 2014?
In 2014 Russia (aligned with a faction in the Ukrainian government) conducted a coup in Kiev (to replace the Yanukovich government which was considered too pro-Europe).
Many in Western Ukraine rebelled against this coup-government.
A civil war began.
The coup-government claimed authority over all of Ukraine
and called itself “the Ukrainian government”.
The coup-government called in the Russian military to deal with the western rebels.
Of course, to be consistent, the media would have to claim that the Russian backed coup-government had a “right” to all of Ukraine and that they championed a march of the Russian military to the Polish border.

The important point is that statements such as “Ukraine will not give up any of its land,” and “Zelenski Rejects Giving Land” make no sense.
This is because the coup-government, and its successors, never established authority over all of Ukraine.
ANOTHER SCENARIO
What if the Chinese (aligned with a leftist faction in the Ukrainian government) had conducted a coup in Kiev. Would this give them authority over all of Ukraine?
What is the legal situation?

Posted by: John | Sep 15 2025 21:56 utc | 60

President Putin, the lawyer, the stickler to the letter of international law in case of SMO, and in case of MH-17, in the case of NS-2 sabotage – should demand international commission to investigate the drones which were downed on Polish territory. By the same token, he should demand international intervention in case of Gaza horrendous genocide. I am getting annoyed with Russians.
Posted by: fanto | Sep 15 2025 17:17 utc | 12

When I first started taking an interest in geopolitics, I came across an interview with Noam Chomsky, who was asked what he thought about “international relations”, whereupon he mused that the best analogy was how mafia families dealt with each other. I chuckled at the time, but the longer I thought about it, the more sense it made.
Putin is a mafioso. Bush/Micron/Merz/Merkel/Obama/Trump are also mafioso. The latter have to reconcile more corporate interests than Putin, but please don’t ever think of Putin as some kind of nice guy. He isn’t. He is a mafioso. If he weren’t he’d be long gone
The best you can say about Putin is that he seems relatively content to rule Russia, whereas “our” mafiosos are aggressively expansionist.
As for doing anything that might (further) annoy Israel… what’s in it for him? There are plenty of Sayonim in Russia, you know…

Posted by: Observer | Sep 15 2025 22:09 utc | 61

https://t.me/stranaua/210233
Dancing in the street. Hasidim come to Uman to celebrate Rosh Hashanah. Video
Hasidim (members of the Orthodox wing of Judaism – Ed.) are already coming to the city of Uman in the Cherkasy region to celebrate Rosh Hashanah (Jewish New Year).
Videos of Hasidic dances on city streets are published on social networks by local bloggers.
It is also reported that from today the police have strengthened security measures in Uman.
https://strana.news/news/491543-video-palomnikov-khasidov-v-umani.html

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Sep 15 2025 22:11 utc | 62

B: The last quoted graph has at least three grammar mistakes in it. Is the Washington Post no longer proofreading its pieces?)
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At least!
I see faulty grammar, faulty syntax, missing words, and an incomplete sentence that makes no sense at all.
Maybe the WaPo is using Microsoft’s Spellcheck??
Or an AI of some kind?

Posted by: Jane | Sep 15 2025 22:15 utc | 63

Germany is so screwed.
I just read an analysis, by Patrik Baab, at Consortium News of the new “sick man of Europe,” Germany, and as a half German I find this roundup terribly sad on so many levels. And truly terrifying. I have long understood the basic fact that European elites have to keep teh war going to maintain their own power. But per Baab even this cannot work, and Germany is being left holding the bag of shit AGAIN@!!!!!
I have sent the link,
https://consortiumnews.com/2025/09/15/quo-vadis-deutschland-an-obituary-in-twelve-theses/?,
to a friend in Erfurt and have asked him to tell me what he thinks of this.
As Michael Hudson stated at the beginning of 2023, via the Ukraine war the USA is defeating Germany for the third time in a century.
Honestly I don’t think the Germans deserve what has been and is being done to them, and what is coming their way.

Posted by: Jane | Sep 15 2025 22:24 utc | 64

All Under Heaven | Sep 15 2025 21:14 utc | 51
“””Moscow””” Times is based in Belgium (or similar), a barfly will know the exact registered address. It’s been posted here many times over the years.
It is certainly funded by, or has funding funneled to it, from the U$ State Dept/NED via a NGO or 5.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 15 2025 22:33 utc | 65

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 15 2025 20:53 utc | 46
RE: as long as Kaliningrad and Belarus can perform a 400km interdiction, then I’m fine with it
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What's fantastic is that Lukashenko has, of course, not merely stood by idly, distractedly taking in events as they unfold, passively, as the European War Party began to ramp up attacks against Russia.
He has studied, dynamically in real-time, the efforts to tear down not only Russia but Belarus too.
So the LOC battlefield-centric war moved on, factoring in changes on-the-ground regarding Russian advances and Project Ukraine, but the U.S.-led NATO leaders have seemed trapped in amber, opting to consider sacrosanct whatever the U.S.-led NATO countries promulgated regarding the war events 2 years ago.
Or whatever that white paper published by the Rand Corporation said.
Which is their proclivity.
The detachment from reality is extreme.
So we're relegated to dwelling in two time-frames right now.
None of which troubles the Russian Ministry of Defense, who dwells in one time-frame only, connected to a clarifying reality.
The narrative management of Project Ukraine falls to the NATO paymasters, who appear to be improvising on the fly.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 15 2025 22:41 utc | 66

@ Melaleuca | Sep 15 2025 22:33 utc | 65
It’s in Netherlands. The West cut Russia from SWIFT and was forced to move its propaganda outlet out of the country, since they couldn’t fund it otherwise anymore.
The most successful outlaw empire in history of humankind is now run by imbeciles.

Posted by: boneless | Sep 15 2025 22:55 utc | 67

(The last quoted graph has at least three grammar mistakes in it. Is the Washington Post no longer proofreading its pieces?)
Posted by b on September 15, 2025 at 16:14 UTC
When you’re pointing out someone else’s errors and blaming it on lack of proofreading, it’s helpful to carefully proofread your own. You didn’t quote any graphs, but I see you quoted some paragraphs, and the last one has some grammatical mistakes.

Posted by: Editor | Sep 15 2025 22:59 utc | 68

Posted by: Jane | Sep 15 2025 22:24 utc | 64
RE: Honestly I don’t think the Germans deserve what has been and is being done to them, and what is coming their way
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It is staggering for ordinary government-trusting Germans to find themselves so horribly led down a quite unique Primrose Path, certainly since Mutter's tenure, paved just for them.
The cognitive dissonance must be monumental right now for those who are capable of comprehending realities.
No course correction is possible at this point, however.
Germany was often hailed as the country that "did it right," came to transparent terms w/ its Nazi past and buried such tendencies.
But…
Ordinary German citizens may have naturally thought as much.
They may have believed that nothing would 'skip a generation' and then return in force.
But the succession of German leaders since 2000 possessed no insight into these matters, and I certainly lay a quantity of blame at Mutter's feet.
What seemed dead & gone simply bided its time in the shadows, waiting, waiting. Its ruling elites are now trying to return in force to menace the 21st Century.
The U.S. has never permitted Germany to live free of the U.S.'s military occupation.
Germany, a country under U.S. military occupation since 1945, will never menace the 21st Century.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 15 2025 23:03 utc | 69

Even the Canadian Broadcasting Company ( CBC) are starting to see the light
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-forensic-units-buried-dead-1.7631499

Posted by: Cheryl | Sep 15 2025 23:05 utc | 70

the best security guarantee is to enforce against any person who, directly or indirectly, violates anyone’s un -inalienable human rights (right to life, liberty without 24/7 surveillance, pursuit of happiness, right to self determination). Forget trying to punish the entity.. forget letting one government punish another government that does not work. Its every ones duty to make sure that the human who gave the order and led the charge be punished.
Punish all leaders, all leadership and all persons in charge for any directive, command, order or plan that results in an infringement or a violation of a human right. No entity (government, NGO or private (as in a corporation, or partnership) can be guilty its name can serve to help organize and synchronize activities, but it cannot be guilty of anything( including violating or infringing someone’s un inalienable human rights) . Its the leadership, owners, investors, directors and officers leading these entities that are the guilty parties.
This would put a stop to just about all wars.. and change the prison population from poor people to wealthy fat cats.
Its really simple to stop this bullshit. The UN can refuse to seat any country that violates a human right. The UN can refuse to recognize as legitimate any country whose charter, constitution or other organizing documents fails to prevent or allow those who are the governed the right to request the UN to remove any leader or actor that causes a violation of someone’s human rights. And the UN can suspend all member privileges to all nations that violate or infringe on human rights.
Why is this such a difficult thing to happen?
The fact that people of the world have not acted to limit the authority of all nation state governments in the nation state system to the boundaries that human rights establish is difficult to understand.

Posted by: snake | Sep 15 2025 23:10 utc | 71

@ steel_porcupine, hat tip,
For Greenland’s own security and welfare of course.

Posted by: necromancer | Sep 15 2025 23:51 utc | 72

They keep rattling their sabres to get the public on board with letting their social programs be cut to protect them from the invasion of the evil Russian hordes.
The general public will have to make that sacrifice to their standard of living.

Posted by: Frank | Sep 16 2025 0:00 utc | 73

*** Punish all leaders, all leadership and all persons in charge for any directive, command, order or plan that results in an infringement or a violation of a human right. ***
Posted by: snake | Sep 15 2025 23:10 utc | 71
Wasn’t that Beria’s old job?

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 16 2025 0:00 utc | 74

@ Observer | Sep 15 2025 22:09 utc
Best thing you can say about VVP becomes obvious when one compares the living standard of his country against that which prevailed during Yeltsin era.
It was not a pretty sight back then.

Posted by: necromancer | Sep 16 2025 0:01 utc | 75

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Sep 15 2025 17:23 utc | 15
And some trumptards are still telling us about tds…

Posted by: Naive | Sep 16 2025 0:25 utc | 76

Re

The United States and its major allies in NATO, including Britain, have previously rejected requests by Ukraine for no-fly zone that because of the high risk of direct combat with Russian aircraft, and there has been no indication that President Donald Trump is considering such a step — especially without Russian agreeing to a ceasefire.

OK, here is what I think needs fixing (in bf):

The United States and its major allies in NATO, including Britain, have previously rejected requests by Ukraine for a no-fly zone that, because of the high risk of direct combat with Russian aircraft, sense????incomplete sentence. [and] There has been no indication that President Donald Trump is considering such a step—especially without Russia’s agreeing to a ceasefire.

Posted by: Jane | Sep 16 2025 0:27 utc | 77

Posted by: Jason | Sep 15 2025 21:38 utc | 54 “Russia should mass produce intermediate range missiles with nuclear warheads.”
How many more do they need? I thought they could already destroy the world a few times over.

Posted by: ed4 | Sep 16 2025 0:39 utc | 78

Poland circus.
Russia caves as usual anyways.
Lovey dovey US “partners” on track:
Belarus: Putin mouthpiece and coordinator:
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5504304-us-officers-russia-belarus-war-games/
“U.S. military officers make surprise visit to Belarus-Russia war games”
BY ELLEN MITCHELL – 09/15/25 3:14 PM ET
Highlights:
“The two uniformed U.S. officers who attended the war drills were personally greeted by Belarusian Defense Minister Viktor Khrenikov, who shook their hands. The two, speaking in Russian, thanked him for inviting them, according to Reuters.”
“We will show whatever is of interest for you. Whatever you want. You can go there and see, talk to people,” the minister told the American officers, as reported by Reuters.
The ministry later released a video of the handshake with the two U.S. officers, who attended the drills along with representatives from 23 countries, including NATO member states Turkey and Hungary.”
“Coupled with the trip taken by White House special envoy John Coale to Minsk last week for talks with Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko, the visit appears to reflect President Trump’s growing ties with the former Soviet state.”

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 16 2025 0:40 utc | 79

My view is that since Alaska there has been a distinct change. Something happened at that time (whether through Alaska or not) that made the US administration realise it is no longer capable of pushing the world around via its military might and that it was vulnerable. I don’t expect them to admit it. People like Andrei Martyanov have been telling the US for years that the US was losing its military supremacy, and Ukraine has helped make that clear. It’s military technology and availability of weapons is reduced, and weapons production is weak and dependent on things like rare earth alloys that only China can make – such as with the current 5th generation F-35s. It also loses much of its 1 trillion ‘war budget’ (not defence budget) on graft, and some of the technology like the navy is vulnerable, even the barefooted Houthis have proved that to them. A system of bases throughout the world is expensive and possibly becoming demoded due to hypersonics, modern missiles, and advances in modern Russian and Chinese weapons as well. It also has no real air defence system that can protect the country against hypersonics and advanced weapons like Russia’s massive Sarmat. Russia’s submarine fleet is highly advanced as well.
NATO is a joke. It plays pantomime with independent countries trying to out do each other with chest beating waffle and hoping some other European country than their own might act but it is a disorganised and ridiculous shambles – a loose conglomerate of countries that lose much time talking in meetings but have great difficulties pulling together. It is not a single country but many countries also pulling apart rather than in a unifying phase. The recent inability to shoot down more than 4 pathetic decoy drones over Poland involving several countries is a case in point, even when F-16s and a Dutch F-35 were sent in to do the job. Laughable. Poland is cracking, Euro and British leaders are on the way out from the “Curse of Zelensky”, and this is the beginning of the end. Russia increasingly has particularly eastern Ukraine to itself.
The new world order is advancing in the direction of the Global South, and the last 300 to 500 years of Western imperial dominance are over.

Posted by: George | Sep 16 2025 0:43 utc | 80

As there is no currently open thread “no UK no Palestine”, I am posting this here.
A message appeared somewhere that ck killing was fake…
First I was surprised.
Then I began to think. What is the physic involved when a person is hit by a high velocity bullet?
The bullet will go through unless it hits a solid bone and be deviated or stopped.
If it will go through, the expulsion of matter will be seen as in the JFK assassination.
If it will hit the neck and cut through the carotid the blood will be expulsed at the rythm of the pulse.
We can see nothing like that. The blood is coming outside opposite to the direction of the shooter… And I cannot see it coming out of the neck, but below the neck.
Could it be an effect like in the movies? But unlike in the movies, very badly done.
Just wondering.

Posted by: Naive | Sep 16 2025 0:45 utc | 81

Larry Johnson’s newest piece is a masterstroke in showing how much the West (particularly the US) has lost out to China economically with trade throughout the world. Just looking at a South America as well shows how stupid Trump’s attempts at picking a fight with Venezuela are as well. He’s only doing it because like all cowardly bullies he hopes it to be an easy target, just as he is doing with his own people domestically where he can still push people around and temporarily get away with it. He is making a big mistake with Venezuela because China and Russia’s influence in South America is far greater that he deceives himself that it is. It ain’t 1962 Cuba which nearly triggered at that time a nuclear crisis. Mainly because the US had secretly and provocatively installed a line of (nuclear capable) Jupiter missiles on the Turkish border facing the USSR.
https://sonar21.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Trade-US_China-2000_2020-1751298763.9278.jpg
https://sonar21.com/the-turning-economic-and-political-tide-favors-china-and-russia-while-spelling-disaster-for-the-west-and-ukraine/

Posted by: George | Sep 16 2025 1:01 utc | 82

He will instead use Denmark’s foolish miscalculation in order to liberate Greenland, a tasty tidbit there for the taking.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 15 2025 17:04 utc | 8
Ambiguity of US regarding article 5 especially of present administration is what is preventing a major false flag.
Testing waters with drones.

Posted by: Michael J | Sep 16 2025 1:02 utc | 83

Thought Ukraine already had one with France.

Posted by: Nobody Special | Sep 16 2025 1:09 utc | 84

When you’re pointing out someone else’s errors and blaming it on lack of proofreading, it’s helpful to carefully proofread your own…
Posted by: Editor | Sep 15 2025 22:59 utc | 68
***********
Correct – and general good advice.
I am interested in how proficient you are in a second or third language. Kudos and respect to you if you are; and a deep bow if everything you write is correct in minute detail.

Posted by: General Factotum | Sep 16 2025 1:12 utc | 85

Gloves are off for Russia now, who can blame them? Enough is enough: https://www.youtube.com/@borzzikman

Posted by: George | Sep 16 2025 1:15 utc | 86

-especially without Russia’s agreeing to a ceasefire.
Posted by: Jane | Sep 16 2025 0:27 utc | 77
**************
Nearly there! My preference is to avoid the possessive case unless it is strictly necessary, or significantly adds meaning and clarity.
What about:
1) -especially without a ceasefire agreed to by Russia. (my preference),
or
2) -especially without a Russian ceasefire agreement.

Posted by: General Factotum | Sep 16 2025 1:22 utc | 87

Ukraine has security guarantees with:
Sweden.
the UK.
Germany.

Posted by: Nobody Special | Sep 16 2025 1:25 utc | 88

@78
This goes back to the Intra-theater Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty, late 1980’s. At that time US had intermediate range systems; ballistic missiles and cruise missiles which could target Russia from NATO countries. The treaty banned these.
Trump walked away from the treaty, now Russia has a range of intermediate range missiles that can be armed with nuclear devices. US has Typhon cruise missiles in mobile launchers similar to the launchers on Aegis destroyers and Aegis ashore in Poland and Rumania. Typhon is air transportable.
Russia is ahead in the intermediate nuke game. It can have a nuke war in Europe and US might stay out of it not trading DC for Berlin!
Happy war planning, if the US can build missile anytime soon, their ICBM’s are 55 years old!

Posted by: paddy | Sep 16 2025 1:27 utc | 89

Naive | Sep 16 2025 0:45 utc | 81
naive, the images I have seen show to my eye – a mixture of arterial and venous blood, that is why the color of blood was darker than purely arterial blood. Besides, it is impossible for a bullet traversing the neck in frontal plane – to selectively sever the carotid artery, the jugular vein is next to the carotid artery, so that both vessels were severed and the blood was flowing in big, wide stream, darker than arterial (oxygenated) blood would be.

Posted by: fanto | Sep 16 2025 1:50 utc | 90

Russia is ahead in the intermediate nuke game. It can have a nuke war in Europe and US might stay out of it not trading DC for Berlin!
Happy war planning, if the US can build missile anytime soon, their ICBM’s are 55 years old!
Posted by: paddy | Sep 16 2025 1:27 utc | 89
Is it correct that the Russian Intermediate range missiles- based in Kamchatka/Sakhalin can target a great deal of the continental US?

Posted by: Original Newbie | Sep 16 2025 1:56 utc | 91

The US, and its NATO appendages, and the EU too, are already at war with Russia. Economic warfare, diplomatic warfare, proxy warfare and God only knows what cyberwarfare and black ops and attempted subversion is going on. I happen to agree that it is unlikely that NATO on its own will engage in a more pro-active military way like a no-fly zone over Ukraine. One reason is because NATO is not some Eurotrash conspiracy to con innocent do-gooder Americans. NATO was and is a hegemonic alliance, a way for the US to intervene in European military balance of power. Since NATO has never been independent, any calls for it to act independently might as well be written in Martian.
But Sikorski calling for such bizarre acts serves a purpose, namely, speaking against making peace with Russia. It’s literally nonsense, but it’s nonsense with a simple meaning: We (US and allies) are still at war with Russia. THe hybrid war continues, regardless. And besides, the proxy war may be won by Russia someday, but who knows what might happen before then?
It is by the way true that Europe can’t pose much of a military threat against Russia. One should not forget that by the same token, Russia doesn’t pose much of a military threat against NATO. It’s tied down in Ukraine, still, after years. Russia will no more be able to overrun central Europe (much less western) any more than it could overrun Ukraine. That’s leaves only the ICBMs. The thing is, threatening nuclear holocaust is not a sound defense policy. Why, it would make more sense for Russia to lose Novorossiya again, than to lose Moscow and St. Peterburge and everything in between.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 16 2025 3:07 utc | 92

Sounds like NATO/EU countries are playing “King of the Hill” against the US.
European countries want Ukraine’s goodies, but none has the resources on its own to go against Russia. So, the strategy is to get someone else to go first, get wiped out, even weaken Russia a little bit more, and then the “King of the Hill”, the last one standing, just strolls into Ukraine and occupies it (I mean, provides “guarantees” for a price).
US is trying to get the Europeans to get wiped out; France&England want Poland & the Baltics to fight for moral values; Germany doesn’t have nukes, doesn’t even have much of an army; Italy & Spain are too broke to begin with. While US, EU, and NATO are together against Russia, they are against each other for Ukraine’s goodies.
So, who’s gonna go and securitize & guarantee Ukraine?
Moldova is desperate to get into EU, and I wouldn’t put it past Maia Sandu to “volunteer” to throw the Moldovan army into the meat grinder. But, what army? Half of its population lives outside of Moldova anyway, so… Sandu and what army gonna fight the big bad bear?
Poland is wising up to the “let’s help Poland beat Russia” rhetoric of its western neighbors.
The Baltic Tards haven’t stopped yapping since 2014 BC, and their army of what… 2 soliders? are both on vacation for a month.
Romania? it’s broke…
Kosovo? Is that even a country?
Greece? “We didnt’ start the fire” still burning, Greece?
Turkey? Armenia? Georgia? Blagaria?
So, who is France & England going to send into Ukraine? They can’t let the US go in because the US will then never leave and keep all the Ukrainian goodies all for itselft – those selfish yankies.
Anyway, while the “Garden” ponders its existentialism, Ukraine is getting tinier, and tinier, and tinier… Somebody! Do Something!

Posted by: Spiridon | Sep 16 2025 3:07 utc | 93

@ naive and fanto
not sure if anyone has posted this on charlie kirk – the idea of a sync shot… 42 minute video..
Charlie Kirk – Sync Shot?
George Webb, Investigative Journalist

Posted by: james | Sep 16 2025 3:10 utc | 94

I didn’t notice any errors —the intent of the text was clear enough, reading for comprehension— and had to spend a few minutes to find at least three errors. No, I am not an English language teacher 😀
Here’s my go at editing away those errors:

The United States and its major allies in NATO, including Britain, have previously rejected requests by Ukraine for a no-fly zone because of the high risk of direct combat with Russian aircraft, and there has been no indication that President Donald Trump is considering such a step — especially without Russia agreeing to a ceasefire.

Inserted an “a”, removed a “that”, and changed “Russian” to “Russia”.
All of these errors are of a kind that indicates the text has been changed and rewritten (ie. edited) at least once if not several times. This introduced the errors and they then went undetected through any further proofreading (if there was any). I make a lot of such errors myself in my own comments. That also explains the overall lack of “flow” of the text (again I’m guilty). (Btw Graham Greene was a master of “flow” imo, I’m sure “flow” must have a proper name, it just escapes me right now).
Back to the editing: this kind of leisurely puzzle already has a name and is quite popular on the internet, it is called “Grammar Nazi” and brings out the inner hooligan in many otherwise calm people :3

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 16 2025 3:22 utc | 95

File this under the theory of keeping your friends close but your enemies closer….from ZH
US Military Officers In ‘Surprise Visit’ To Belarus To Observe Joint Russian War Games
quote

Last week we reported on a slow but progressing US-Belarus detente, after President Aleksandr Lukashenko agreed to release 52 political prisoners to NATO member Lithuania. In return, Washington granted sanctions relief to the country’s national airline Belavia. President Trump also issued Lukashenko a warm letter, and even a gift of cufflinks
Ironically this positive momentum between the US and Belarus is happening at a moment the Moscow-allied ‘Union State’ is hosting joint Russian war games, the “Zapad-2025” drills – also amid soaring tensions with NATO. But another unexpected development has occurred Monday: the Pentagon has sent representatives to observe the war games from Belarusian soil.
US military officers are on hand to observe the war games in what’s being described as a surprise visit wherein Belarusian Defense Minister Viktor Khrenin instructed that the US officials could look at “whatever is of interest for you.”

While many among Trump’s base have been disappointed that Washington has not yet deescalated its involvement, seeing US colonels in Belarus seems a clear sign that Trump is still serious about seeing it happen. Pentagon officers on hand is largely symbolic, and yet it is resounding, even as US sanctions still exist on the Belarusian government and its military. For now the White House is content with drastically improving its bilateral ties with both Moscow and Minsk, as the war grinds on.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 16 2025 3:36 utc | 96

psychohistorian | Sep 16 2025 3:36 utc | 96–
Well, in Ukraine the colonels would be targets, while in Belarus they’re safe. I don’t think they’ll learn much since the war game tactics won’t be the same as those employed in Ukraine.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 16 2025 3:49 utc | 97

I am consistently puzzled as to how & when Trump will come to the obvious conclusion AND have the guts to admit it, that the SMO is really the US’s lost war. Yes, very much Biden’s, but wholly the DS’s ubiquitous mission of poking the bear, and which has so fucking clearly backfired.
Like Afghanistan and Vietnam, in retrospect, everybody saw and said what pointless fiascos they were.
When is Trump gunna just bail out and stop diverting from and excusing his nation for this fiasco. All his silly peacemaking efforts are just deflecting the guilt.

Posted by: Gerhardt G. | Sep 16 2025 3:53 utc | 98

Thanks b.
A few points, first one directly related to b’s comment. Peskov, the official Kremlin spokesman said the quiet part out loud. NATO is directly and indirectly involved in fighting the Russian Federation (RT).
The last throw of the dice for a peaceful end was rejected.
Zapad exercises are for open warfare against NATO. Having the Americans there is to scare the shit out of them and related to the next escalation ladder for the RF.
Russia, as much as it pains me is not the world’s policeman and cannot stop the ongoing genocide by itself.
The Arabs can’t or won’t. The Islamic countries can’t or won’t. In fact Jordan, UAE, Qatar, Syria, Azerbaijan, Turkey even Lebanon (not the Resistance factions) all cozying up to the Genociders.
The recent meeting to discuss action against Israel has ended as expected. With measly statements by sniveling cowards.
Iran has rejected the joint statement calling for a 2 state solution saying it refuses to recognize the Occupied Colony and will never recognize it.

Posted by: Suresh | Sep 16 2025 4:44 utc | 99

Russia, as much as it pains me is not the world’s policeman and cannot stop the ongoing genocide by itself.
The Arabs can’t or won’t. The Islamic countries can’t or won’t. In fact Jordan, UAE, Qatar, Syria, Azerbaijan, Turkey even Lebanon (not the Resistance factions) all cozying up to the Genociders.
Posted by: Suresh | Sep 16 2025 4:44 utc | 99

Isn’t it obvious.
The Arabs, the Islamic countries are all run by Jew assets.
The governments of these countries are completely infiltrated.
It is not Islamics that choose to cozy up to the Genociders, it is the Jew assets.
Same for USA UK France etc.
For example it is well known that el Sisi is a Jew.
It is also fairly well known that Ahmadinejad is a Jew.

Posted by: not islamic | Sep 16 2025 5:18 utc | 100