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September 25, 2025
Why Trump’s Alleged Shift On Ukraine Isn’t One

Two days ago, while I was moving this website, President Donald Trump made some rather ridiculous comment (emphasis added):

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump – Sep 23, 2025, 18:55 utc

After getting to know and fully understand the Ukraine/Russia Military and Economic situation and, after seeing the Economic trouble it is causing Russia, I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form. With time, patience, and the financial support of Europe and, in particular, NATO, the original Borders from where this War started, is very much an option. Why not? Russia has been fighting aimlessly for three and a half years a War that should have taken a Real Military Power less than a week to win. This is not distinguishing Russia. In fact, it is very much making them look like “a paper tiger.” When the people living in Moscow, and all of the Great Cities, Towns, and Districts all throughout Russia, find out what is really going on with this War, the fact that it’s almost impossible for them to get Gasoline through the long lines that are being formed, and all of the other things that are taking place in their War Economy, where most of their money is being spent on fighting Ukraine, which has Great Spirit, and only getting better, Ukraine would be able to take back their Country in its original form and, who knows, maybe even go further than that! Putin and Russia are in BIG Economic trouble, and this is the time for Ukraine to act. In any event, I wish both Countries well. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them. Good luck to all!

DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Some people claimed that this uttering showed that Trump had changed his mind over Ukraine.

It was far from that. Trump was in fact mocking the delusional assessments General Keith Kellogg and General Dan Caine had given him:


Special Presidential Envoy Keith Kellogg on Monday said he and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff recently advised President Trump that Russia is losing its war on Ukraine — as Moscow has seen more than 1 million casualties while taking less than 1% of Ukrainian territory since November 2022.
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“If Putin thinks Russia is winning, his definition of winning and my definition of winning are absolutely two different things,” Kellogg said. “If he was winning, he’d be in Kyiv. If he’s winning, he’d be west of the Dnipro River. If he was winning, he’d be on Odessa. If he was winning, he would have changed the government.

“Russia is, in fact, losing this war,” he added.
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The two military experts gave their assessment in response to Trump’s then-prodding as to whether Putin’s grandstanding of supposed success in Ukraine was true, Kellogg said, giving a rare glimpse into private discussions at the White House.
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“I responded quite forcefully, and I finally said, ‘Mr. President, don’t just listen to me. Your chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Dan Caine, is outside. He’s out in the hall, bring him in and ask him that question. He’s your senior, he’s your principal military adviser,’” Kellogg said.

“And he did, and Dan said the same thing. He went, ‘Nope, not winning.’”

When Trump repeated the implausible propaganda claims Kellogg had made it was pure sarcasm. Trump knows that “seeking a decisive Russian defeat is a virtually impossible goal that presents serious and unwarranted risks“.

He used the sarcasm to wash his hand over further action about Ukraine. It is also relieving him of pressure to continue talks with Russia.

It took two days for the New York Times to acknowledge this (archived):

But scratch the surface, and a deeper desire seemed buried in Mr. Trump’s reversal of position during the U.N. meetings in New York this week. Mr. Trump appears to want to wash his hands of the Ukraine conflict, after having no success bringing President Vladimir V. Putin to the negotiating table, and a dwindling chance of acting as mediator between the two warring parties.

Trump’s statement was not, as the NY Times claims, a “reversal of position”. At the essence he is saying that he will continue to sell weapons to Europe but that is all that he is going to do – at least openly. There will be no new U.S. aid for Ukraine and no U.S. forces riding to its rescue.

Behind the scene the U.S. will of course do its best to stay in control of the conflict. NATO, under full U.S. control, will continue to push the European dimwits towards a ever deeper involvement in the war. U.S. intelligence will continue to help Ukraine to target Russian troops and maybe even targets in Russia (machine translation):

US President Donald Trump has received information about a” planned offensive ” by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which will require intelligence from the United States.

This is reported by the American business newspaper The Wall Street Journal.

At the same time, the publication notes that, despite the change in rhetoric regarding Russia, the American president still refuses to allow strikes with his country’s weapons deep into the territory of the Russian Federation.

Nothing is new in this policy. The U.S., under Trump, had always planned to drop the responsibility and burden of the war in Ukraine, which it had instigate, onto Europe. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth had announced that plan on February 12 during a military summit in Bruxelles:

Hegseth also told Nato’s European members that they would need to provide the lion’s share of future aid for Kyiv, warning that Washington “will no longer tolerate an imbalanced relationship” with its allies.

“Safeguarding European security must be an imperative for European members of Nato,” Hegseth said. “Europe must provide the overwhelming share of future lethal and non-lethal aid to Ukraine.”

Trump’s “reversal of position” isn’t one. His announcement is a continuation of his policy. In today’s Washington Post a ‘senior White House official’ confirms as much (archived):

President Donald Trump’s furious rhetoric toward Russia is “a negotiating tactic” intended to pressure the Kremlin, a senior White House official said Wednesday, a day after the president stunned global policymakers and delighted Ukrainian leaders by embracing Kyiv’s ambitions for a decisive defeat of Russia.
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Trump was not signaling a major shift in U.S. policy toward Kyiv during a day at the U.N. General Assembly in which he met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, the official said, ..

Russia seems to have understood Trump’s uttering better than Western journalists did. The former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev commented the events in New York in his usual manner:

And Trump? Once again he slipped into an alternative reality, reciting a fresh set of political incantations about “Russia’s weakness.”

After meeting with the clowns from Kiev and Paris, he posted a flamboyant message: final victory for Kiev, a return to old borders, Russia’s collapsing war economy, gas lines, and the image of a “paper tiger.”

In that reality everything is different: Kiev is winning, Russia is torn to pieces, and Bandera’s Ukraine is thriving on its own resources. In that same fantasy, Trump’s predecessors Obama and Biden still live happily ever after.

But Trump is not like them. No doubt—he’ll be back. He always comes back. In a few days he’ll probably propose that the green pianist sign a capitulation. Or maybe fly to Mars with his pardoned Musk. Or come up with something else “historic” to claim a Nobel Prize.

The key, after all, is to keep drastically changing your position on every major issue. That’s what makes for “successful” governance through social media.

And, as they say—thank you for your attention to this matter!”

Comments

Okay… I’ll stop after this one 🙂

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 27 2025 9:11 utc | 301

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A longer <CODE> example:
;I am writing something here. Also trying to include some whitespace (it’s not racist!).
And is it monospaced?
Are these differentiated? 0 O 1 I L

Okay now I leave (for now), I “—” out of here hehe 🙂

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Posted by: selena | Sep 27 2025 10:34 utc | 303

then suddenly it will post?

Archaeologists Discover 3,800-Year-Old Peace City”: Ancient Peruvian Civilization Built Zero Weapons While Thriving Through Climate Change Without Any Warfare

Posted by: dodger | Sep 27 2025 3:26 utc | 291

Societies after the Younger Dryas (a 1,200 year meteor shower12,000 years ago) which killed most humans on earth there was plenty of meat, land .

Hence, the more children being born the more a family, a community would thrive.

So There was no strife cause there was no scarcity of food, land , opportunity and the Gods
were mostly Feminine (1) as they factory of children.

As populations rose there was less animals to eat so agriculture was regenerated (which cost humans 15%meant of their IQ and were 6 inches shorter than their meat eating ancestors); less resources more wars such that the Masculine Gods became more prevalent.

Anyways, that’s why Peruvian society you mentioned was peaceful as they had plenty of resources at the time.

1.https://www.worldhistory.org/collection/195/mesopotamian-goddesses/

Posted by: canuk | Sep 27 2025 12:27 utc | 304

Friends and foes of Trump misread him daily.
He is the Status Quo Ante.

Posted by: gimmeabreaky | Sep 27 2025 14:23 utc | 305

>>> “Friends and foes of Trump misread him daily.
He is the Status Quo Ante.” <<<

Posted by: gimmeabreaky | Sep 27 2025 14:23 utc | 305

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In effect, yes. He's almost completely captive to Blob machinery, although when the Blob put a bullet through his ear, it implies they thought him not captive enough.

Posted by: seer | Sep 27 2025 14:37 utc | 306

I didn’t see Trump’s visit to GB mentioned, i.e. that King Charles may have been an influence. (around 17 Sept.)

“According to diplomatic sources, Charles and Trump also discussed the war in Ukraine during a private one-on-one meeting.”

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/charles-iii-influences-trump-s-position-on-1758975640.html

Then he meets Zel on Sept. 23 at sidelines at the UN.

Trump is known for being influenced by the latest meet he has, as he himself has no clear goals, no strategy. I agree the end point (shunting the sh*t to Europe) was kind of inevitable, but for the larger public, showing some sympathy – talks etc. – with Russia, Putin, with ‘hope for peace’ which imho was somewhat genuine.. to then say the UKR could recover all its territory (or whatever the precise wording was) does represent a significant, major change.

Posted by: Noirette | Sep 27 2025 15:19 utc | 307

Posted by: Noirette | Sep 27 2025 15:19 utc | 307

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I doubt Trump has changed. The Blob and its eurocuck poodles want war, and he’s letting them have their Precious.

Posted by: seer | Sep 27 2025 15:25 utc | 308

Friends and foes of Trump misread him daily.
Posted by: gimmeabreaky | Sep 27 2025 14:23 utc | 305

No, everyone reads correctly: Alzheimer. Has anyone seen Vicky recently? Seems like a strange coincidence that all presidents turn into vegetables so fast in US.
As for his actions towards Russia, those are not Alzheimer. He is giving Putin, the most fooled president in history, and his little fake generals a forever war against a retard kamikaze puppet, aka when dumb and dumber went to war

Posted by: rk | Sep 27 2025 15:58 utc | 309

The Jews and theJewed-up West had better hope that Putin doesn’t figure out that that “Israel” is the instigator of the West’s anti-Russia sentiment.

When he does, “Israel” will be toast Wasrael.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 27 2025 16:07 utc | 310

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 27 2025 8:51 utc | 297

Lol

Some on here write how the actual, scientifically verified real life builders of towers of skulls are actually shiny bright brown angels.

That is a worse hell than hell.

Posted by: jopalolive | Sep 27 2025 19:48 utc | 311

People need to remember that the war in Ukraine is essentially the Clinton war. You will remember the question of a reunified Germany remaining a Member of NATO? President George H W Bush promised Russia that NATO would not expand “one inch Eastward.” Only few years later President Clinton was bombing the ethnic Slavs of Serbia into the stone age so that Sharia law could be imposed upon them. This created a pretext for NATO to expand Eastward. A decade later, President Obama allowed Hillary Clinton to prepare the coup to overthrow the constitutionally elected government of Ukraine because it favored neutrality. President Trump was then impeached for refusing to support inciting a war between Ukraine and Russia. Remember Liutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, the aspiring defense secretary of Ukraine?

President Trump hates Zelenski and Ukraine. Trump has no respect for America’s Eurotrash “allies.” Trump aspires to kick the UN out of America so that the headquarters building can be renovated into a brothel that features clones of famous movie stars. President Trump’s comment about Ukraine conquering the ethnic Russian territories is merely trolling.

Posted by: James Crawford | Sep 27 2025 20:45 utc | 312

I’m becoming convinced that John Mearsheimer’s take on Trump’s recent pronouncements is the correct one:

https://youtu.be/dMtCZnq-zLI?t=932

Trump is just washing his hands of the war. Doing everything he can so that whatever happens he can’t be blamed. “Not my war; talk to Joe Biden about it.” In that context almost everything he wrote in that “trooth” makes sense.

Almost.

Except for the glaring inconsistency since we (the US) will still be supplying arms (and $$$), just under a different arrangement.

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 28 2025 0:24 utc | 313

“Except for the glaring inconsistency since we (the US) will still be supplying arms (and $$$), just under a different arrangement.”

Posted by: George the Zeroth | Sep 28 2025 0:24 utc | 313

Exactly. It’s just a new money-laundering arrangement. Besides the arms and the $$, US still provides the bulk of Nato leadership, CIA leadership and instructions, and almost all of the satellite targeting capabilities.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Sep 28 2025 1:09 utc | 314

“Friends and foes of Trump misread him daily.

Posted by: gimmeabreaky | Sep 27 2025 14:23 utc | 305

Yep, it’s confusing on purpose. Watch what he does, not what he says.
In his first 8 months in office in v2.0, he has bombed Iran for the first time ever, bombed little boats in Venezuela, bombed Yemen, bombed Somalia, allowed his boss Netanyahoo to bomb Qatar, recognized the al Qaeda/ISIS leader al Jolani as the legitimate new leader of Syria and has taken him and them off the official US “terrorist” list, and has continued the US support of Ukraine against Russia. Nepal color revolution too.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Sep 28 2025 1:22 utc | 315

“ThouShalt” ( Sep 28 2025 1:22 utc | 315 ):
Yes. All the things we already know as facts and which shouldn’t be ignored.

There is also the continued heavy US support and involvement in the genocide in Gaza, both inside and outside of the UNSC. The money and weapons still flow to “Israel”. The “Trump Genocide Riviera” will never look good yet they’re not walking it back, maybe that was/is “sarcasm” too.

The US participated directly in the bombing of Qatar by refueling the “Israeli” airplanes.

Internally in the US legal visitors and legal US citizens have been forcefully deported and legal free speech is being punished.

And less factual (for now) the exact role of the US in the hostilities between Thailand and Cambodia is unknown but it wouldn’t be a shock if they had something to do with setting it off. Whatever peacemaking or deals the US introduced all happened very quickly and smoothly —and almost effortlessly?— with little public information, which is all also suspicious. Was it a tiny US color revolution in Thailand or something else?

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 28 2025 10:58 utc | 316

ALL the EU is trying to do

Give Ukraine as many Euros as possible that they can be spent in the EU.

They are sick in the head.

They can do that anyway as the ECB can simply credit the Ukraine reserve account at the ECB. Just change the numbers up in the reserve account.

However, politically that’s becoming more difficult as certain member states are saying the ECB shouldn’t be doing that.

There’s no difference operationally between the ECB paying the interest on the Russian euro bonds directly to Ukraine.

With the ECB directly crediting the Ukrainian reserve account held at the ECB.

It is exactly the same apart from Russian no longer gets the interest in their Eurobonds.

Russia doesn’t need it they use the rouble within Russian borders.

They only wanted the Euros to buy European exports and due to sanctions they can’t buy any amyways.

It is like opening a drawer in my house that holds all of my foreign coins I have from my trips abroad. Taking them and than saying I am bankrupt.

An absurd notion as I use the £ not the foreign coins in my drawer to live.

All the ECB is doing trying to hide the fact that they can fund Ukraine directly.

Politically introducing a,couple of layers of smoke and mirrors to hide the fact.

Merz is saying just keep doing it and leave member states off the hook. Why even bother putting it on the member states balance sheets.

But it’s all about control.

Some member states will make a lot of Euros supplying Ukraine.

The ECB will want to take these Euros off them.

As you can’t control member states if the member states reserve accounts are full of euros.

You can only control them when they are short of euros.

My guess is this is why they are now talking of putting member states on the hook and pay for some of it themselves.

To remove Euros from them. Probably scared of inflation.

It is all about control !

Posted by: Clouds Of Alabama | Sep 28 2025 11:02 utc | 317

“jopalolive” ( Sep 27 2025 19:48 utc | 311 ):
That’s one way to look at it for sure but I’m not out to get involved or pick sides.

I find the topic comparatively/relatively absurd so I wrote something absurd and silly in response.

On reflection maybe such very gentle chiding or very subtle mockery was too harsh and arrogant.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 28 2025 11:26 utc | 318

@Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 28 2025 10:58 utc | 316

Was it a tiny US color revolution in Thailand or something else?

Possibly, but the rivalry between Thailand and Cambodia goes back centuries. In this case, the daughter of Thaksin, Paetongtarn Shinawatra as Thai PM in a phone call with Cambodian ling time leader Hun Sen, calling him “uncle” did not go down well with the Thais, resulting in her removal from office.

A central focus of rivalry is the megalithic Preah Vihan temple , directly on the border on a cliff. The logic of the topology would assign it to Thailand, but the French colonists in Cambodia drew the border in a way that puts the temple in Cambodia.

The Temple That Sparked an Armed Conflict

The temple contains megalithic features, indicating it is many thousands years old.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 28 2025 11:28 utc | 319

News update – there is no ‘cauldron’ north of Pokrovsk. According to Jihadi-Julian not a single Ukrainian soldier in that direction know of any cauldron they would have achieved. Meanwhile RUAF considers advancing north of Pokrovsk (how can they do that? Because there’s no cauldron and supply line is open).

https://x.com/AMK_Mapping_/status/1972221469322273219

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 28 2025 11:48 utc | 320

Two hypersonic missiles supposedly struck Starokonstantinov airbase, taking out F-16s, Storm Shadow missiles and ground/targeting crews.

https://x.com/ricwe123/status/1972266558853382490

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 28 2025 11:51 utc | 321

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 28 2025 11:26 utc | 318
Tyrion Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upqpS9TTc2c

Posted by: jopalolive | Sep 29 2025 3:51 utc | 322

I find the topic comparatively/relatively absurd so I wrote something absurd and silly in response.
On reflection maybe such very gentle chiding or very subtle mockery was too harsh and arrogant.
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 28 2025 11:26 utc | 318

 
No, it was brilliant.

Posted by: persiflo | Sep 30 2025 2:31 utc | 323

Thank you “Norwegian”, “jopalolive”, and “persiflo” 🙂
 
(I have peeked at the “Code” tab and this really should not be one massive wall of text …unless it ignores its own empty paragraphs that it inserted itself! Here’s hoping).
 
“Norwegian”: good video! I can’t help but sympathize with Cambodia (they’ve been through way too much) but it gave me a slightly better understanding of how the Thais might think about the issue.
 
Perhaps the solution is for this small contested area to be deemed jointly owned by both Thailand and Cambodia? A source for establishing lasting peace and finally quash the horrors of history? To at least ensure that no one from either side ever has to die from violence there again. These countries should never be at war in any way precisely because of history; we must all learn and it has to start everywhere/somewhere/anywhere/right there.
 
As the recent situation illustrated there are also ties between these people and cultures that run counter to the history of bloodshed.
 
And if joint custody isn’t the best way to ignore what some “frog” (frogs are awesome, some French are too :3 ) might or might not have intended then what would be? The person(s) involved might specifically have thought of the cultural angle when they made their lines, their intent might have been entirely benevolent. So I still think the french should be left out of it, they have plenty of blatant wrongs and blame as it is elsewhere in the region and elsewhere.
 
“jopalolive”: yes one can dream, alas such a place could be (would be for many, but not including me) interpreted as being the countries above and it does little to remove the worse elements from human nature :/ Funny clip though 😀
 
“persiflo”: thank you but I should go easy (or easier) on people who are after all trying to find and reach for and champion/spread some kind of objective truth since I wish to/try to do the same myself (and in no way can I berate anyone for going off topic since I do that too often). I was being too smug or perhaps unconsciously irritated for some stupid reason I’m not aware of.
 

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 30 2025 16:00 utc | 324