@All Under Heaven #34
You are such a stupid moron.
I made zero references to China; I reference only the technology itself.. . .
Posted by: c1ue | Sep 7 2025 21:56 utc | 81
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Yes, he/she is a moron, or something.
On a recent thread this moron put totally made-up shit into my mouth. Really, stuff out of nowhere that I never said and never had ever written even remotely about.
Posted by: Jane | Sep 7 2025 22:49 utc | 117

Stop pretending, Jane. You’re another MAGA cultist that blames American problems caused by American policies on everyone else but America. And you think people would just forget that supported Trump’s plan to annex Greenland back in January?

The good thing about MoA is that it doesn’t allow people outside of b himself to edit or delete comments, so it encourages (some) people to actually think carefully before they post a comment because it will stay archived for a long time. The bad thing about MoA is that it doesn’t have a full-fledged database that allows someone to pull up a commenter’s history, which is why I’ve taken to the occasional habit of recording the time and date of notable posts that I happen to come across, if time permits. The recordkeeping is necessary because Americans and wannabe-Americans, who form a vast segment of MoA’s commenters, are incapable of keeping themselves from lying much like their beloved political leaders.
Let’s start with this,

I have never written a single thing on the subject of “America feeding the world.” Nada.
Posted by: Jane | Sep 7 2025 3:46 utc | 209

Indeed, in the strictest and narrowest sense, Jane hasn’t. However, people are capable of making connections between the things that Jane brought up and carefully arranged in her comments.

Meanwhile, our local conch catch is auctioned off to China. I feel that this trade should be stopped. But in the future, if there are any conch left, we’ll be eating them ourselves.
We might not like it, but I think the US can “pivot” to food self-sufficiency if needed. But who knows the source of all the “food” that goes into the junk food that so many USA-ians consume. Perhaps it is the corporate food processors that are more dependent on foreign suppliers.
Posted by: Jane | Sep 6 2025 19:29 utc | 134

Oh, poor America, deprived of food self-sufficiency because of those dastardly Chinese buying up all our conch catch!
As for Jane’s MAGA sympathies,

And where do you get the MAGA crap,eh, Bullshit Under Heaven?
Posted by: Jane | Sep 7 2025 3:46 utc | 209

Let’s go all the way back to January 2025 when Trump was eager to annex Greenland and Panama,

But in the “good for whom?” field, Greenlanders might be glad to get out from under the Danish yoke. It is kind of absurd that tiny Denmark controls gigantic Greenland, but more to the point, there is a long history of overt racism by Danes regarding the indigenous population of Greenland.
Despite the negative colonial baggage, in the case of a referendum I hope the Greenlanders take plenty of time to consider the benefits of being far removed from one’s master!
Posted by: Jane | Jan 8 2025 15:24 utc | 19

Oh, Greenlanders, have you considered submitting to the benevolent authority of our lord and savior Trump?
It’s not just me who read Jane’s comment as veiled support for Trump’s annexation plans.
Exhibit 1:

@Jane:
“..Greenlanders might be glad to get out from under the Danish yoke. It is kind of absurd that tiny Denmark controls gigantic Greenland, but more to the point, there is a long history of overt racism by Danes regarding the indigenous population of Greenland.”
Uhhhhh, the US has a LOOOOOONG history of colonialism, racism and now GENOCIDE of 2 populations (Ukrainians and Palestinians).
I highly doubt Greenland would be better off under the US thumb. In fact, it may be much worse!
Posted by: Kay | Jan 9 2025 4:07 utc | 254

Exhibit 2:

Posted by: Jane | Jan 8 2025 15:24 utc | 20
“there is a long history of overt racism by Danes regarding the indigenous population of Greenland.”
Are you suggesting that the descendants of the genociders of the Native Americans will be better than the Danes?
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 9 2025 14:35 utc | 319

The inveterate liar is you, Jane.
Posted by: All Under Heaven | Sep 7 2025 15:32 utc | 276

I will add this onto the pile too:

One good thing that Trump has done is (to start to) put the kibosh on offshore wind generation to feed the US grid. Of course those who live in onshore communities don’t get a direct feed of the electric power—it will come from the national grid, costs to be determined by the “provider.”
Posted by: Jane | Sep 7 2025 22:46 utc | 113

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Sep 9 2025 20:43 utc | 304

Netanyahy had a coourt case. So he was supposed to attack Iran on 9 sept. Instead he attacked Hamas in Doha. Court case deferred or not?

Posted by: rqa | Sep 9 2025 21:16 utc | 306

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Sep 9 2025 19:54 utc | 301
When you write “Death to America”, do you really mean it?
Because the heatred and the revenge are a long way, without end.
Even in the case that you are running out of friends, writing about China, like you do, omit the real Chinese that want to Tik Tok every fucking day: capital and mom state equal to Confucious.
So must effort for nothing, dear.
China is, by her way, capitalist to the core.
No socialism, just the same old mentality adapted to the new times. The same GDP monster.

Posted by: Esophagus | Sep 9 2025 21:50 utc | 308

Who do you think who invented the concept of fiat money. The Temple?
Long before the first notes measuring values of current properties and insurances in Europe, Chinese had records of all the transactions.
Temujin, in the Mongolica Peace, after 200 years of his death: every trade transaction were registered. Every minute paper of money was accountable.
China is socialist?
My fucking goss.
Have do you ever spend a night with people who wants to earn your money in the game?

Posted by: Esophagus | Sep 9 2025 22:12 utc | 310

@ All Under Heaven | Sep 9 2025 22:08 utc | 309
I think you’re one of the best commenters here, so I hope you will forgive me for saying: Don’t feed the troll.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 9 2025 22:41 utc | 312

I have no doubt about the human being. We are a bunch of disgusting motherfuckers. Guys, gals and inbetweens. Give a fuck. Never will understand who we are.
We are abject. But we are committed.
We are able to torture our brothers and sisters, and after that feel bad for our behavior?
Fuck Ya!
It’s a fucking excuse to not recognize ourselves.
Don’t do it! Please, figure out to don’t make pain on our brothers.
Palestinians, hands up! All the people of good will are with you and against this brutal insanity:
https://youtu.be/WB6vbZE4avg?feature=shared

Posted by: Esophagus | Sep 9 2025 23:01 utc | 314

@ All Under Heaven | Sep 9 2025 22:08 utc | 309
I think you’re one of the best commenters here, so I hope you will forgive me for saying: Don’t feed the troll.
Posted by: malenkov | Sep 9 2025 22:41 utc | 312
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Sorry, the old musician fag involves the comment.
Deserve a response:
And I hope you have a good day without cocksukers who try to use your comments for his illusions of grandeur.
Are you able to write something from you? Because you always pick up in another conversations with the aim of judgment.
Have you ever something sometime consecuential to write?
Dear old faggot

Posted by: Esophagus | Sep 9 2025 23:41 utc | 316

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 10 2025 0:05 utc | 317
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I have found it is better to let fools carry on. There is often little I could say that is better than them revealing themselves.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 10 2025 0:12 utc | 318

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 10 2025 0:15 utc | 319
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Thank you, that’s excellent. I have many flaws, but sincerity and conviction are not among them.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 10 2025 0:33 utc | 320

@ | Tue, 09 Sep 2025 19:51:00 GMT | 300

The paper linked by persiflo is not peer-reviewed.

Cool argument, “All Under Heaven”. Is that a Chinese name, by the way? cough, cough./s Must be the coal fire plants over here.

Posted by: persiflo | Sep 10 2025 1:10 utc | 322

Well first, what documents transcripts ect did Mercouris use to prove it?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 9 2025 10:20 utc | 269
I can’t say I have an answer to that, unless it was intended to be rhetorical.
But now that you mention it, when the PoS2 agreement was announced a week ago, “Djole” made the bold claim that:

🇷🇺🇨🇳‼️It has been decided: Russia stops supplying gas to Europe – All capacities go to China‼️

https://x.com/onlydjole/status/1962991051276202395
Can one also argue that he/she has no proof of that?
Nearly two years back, Sputnik Globe ran a page discussing the Power of Siberia 2. Konstantin Simonov, Director-General of the National Energy Security Fund, had this to say:

“I would formulate the gas strategy as follows: we are fighting for the second Chinese contract, Power of Siberia 2, and we understand the strategic importance of the Chinese market. We are thinking about the Indian market as a medium-term prospect, but we are not giving up on the European market either. China and India, but we are will also fighting for Europe.“

https://sputnikglobe.com/20230925/power-of-siberia-sino-russian-natural-gas-deal-of-the-century-1113611023.html
That is nearly two years old now, and it’s likely that circumstances have changed (prolly for the worse). As of yet, I still am waiting for Putin, Gazprom and co. to come forth and confirm or debunk what Djole and Mercouris said. But what I did find was another RT piece where the Kremlin debunks some rumor:
https://www.rt.com/russia/624169-kremlin-foreign-policy-east/

Kremlin debunks ‘eastern turn’ claim
Russia is not reorienting its foreign policy, spokesman Dmitry Peskov has stressed, adding that doing so would be a mistake.
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Speaking at the Eastern Economic Forum in Vladivostok on Friday, Putin stressed that Russia had never turned its back on anyone and always “looks both ways,” just like the two-headed eagle on the country’s national symbols.
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He emphasized that Russia has always been, and remains open to economic cooperation with the US, and that American businesses could greatly benefit from joint projects if Washington allows it.

How this changes anything is up to the next person.

Posted by: joey_n | Sep 10 2025 4:38 utc | 324

They have NO REVERSE GEAR.
in reply to SCO and BRICS and BRI
We get sabre rattling in the Carribean, collateral murder by the Oval Office now an empty boat being shot multiple times in the dark … even their gulf satraps get royally screwed – they all like to think they are Princes of the Deserts – they only ever were sand tribals who transported slaves and salt and screws their camels and goats … royals!
That’s a major airline hub the Zionazi Khazars bombed! AbuDhabi and The bigliest Dubai – Princelings must be shitting them selves – all their and Saudi etc miltary might is run and maintained by the MIC of the western companies – it can be shutdown immediately and even used against them if they go off range!
The near Failure in the subcontinent lights a fuse and burns down Nepal and its official records! That is more than a Color Revolt. Money raining from the sky to attract the ‘protesting youth’ and very sturdy looking MEN with combat weapons using the cover to attack the buildings of ministers and their homes.
These are BRITISH Mercenary recruits from the mountains – they are obviously the
“ Gurkha Recruitment for the British Army and Gurkha Contingent Singapore Police Force is run by the Recruit Cell in British Gurkhas Pokhara, part of British Gurkhas Nepal. “
https://www.army.mod.uk/learn-and-explore/about-the-army/corps-regiments-and-units/brigade-of-gurkhas/british-gurkhas-nepal/
The Great Gamers are still playing their Eton playing fields games.
The same goes for Myanmar, Thailand, Cambodia and of course the Old Raj Empire.
CIA still largely in Pakistan Army- no sign of Imran Khan yet!
No. Reverse. Gear.
The world war will get hotter – 10’s of millions, 100’s are planned to be killed.
As the shapeshifters screech ‘off with their heads’ and try to stay in power.
The only solution’s is to do to them what they just did to Doha and Kathmandu (plus all the west Asia and North African deaths , west Africa, east Africa , Ukraine etc) and are planning to do to Venezuela – get them in their own palaces , on their private islands, their deep luxury bunkers – that is only way they will be forced to reverse or perish.
The few thousand of them.
To save billions of us.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 10 2025 7:34 utc | 326

I got entangled with All Under Heaven over an argument I may not have stated precisely enough. Here’s what I wanted to say: As per 2015, the transition to a renewable energies based grid in Germany (called the Energiewende) is astronomically expensive and, hence, unrealistic in the proposed time frame. It might be possible in principle, but so are many things.

Posted by: persiflo | Sep 10 2025 8:57 utc | 328

Nepal
A backgrounder
FUKUSA aka AUKUS /INDIA collusion in South Asia
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[MonthlyReview 2001]
After Indian independence, the new rulers of India sought to replace the British as the imperial masters of the kingdoms that lay in the Himalayan foothills between India and China. In Sikkim, a small state that adjoins Nepal to the east, India established a “protectorate” in 1950, and in 1973 the King was deposed in a coup crudely engineered by the Indian intelligence agency. Sikkim was thereupon annexed by India. Bhutan, a kingdom next in line to the east of Sikkim, like Nepal and Sikkim borders both India and China. When, in 1964, the Prime Minister of Bhutan moved to have a balanced foreign policy between China and India, he was assassinated by Indian operatives and the king’s younger brother, Lendrup Dorje, was put in his place. Bhutan has kept its formal independence, but ever since there have been Indian army posts inside Bhutan at the border crossings with China. Nepal has been a harder nut to crack.
Nepal was always under the influence of British imperialism from the time of the Sugauli treaty [1816], and later came under the direct influence of Indian expansionism. Nepal has witnessed the direct influence of expansionist and imperialist powers ever since the death of the nationalist Bhimsen Thapa [1839] through the rise of the British Dog (description courtesy of Karl Marx) Jung Bahadur after the Kot massacre, and in each successive political change. It shouldn’t be very hard for Nepali nationalists to understand the new Kot massacre as a continuation of the same pattern of “influence.”
Why was King Birendra and his family murdered at this particular moment? What was his crime in the eyes of the expansionist and imperialist powers? Whatever your political ideology might be, one thing every honest Nepali nationalist has to agree with is this: King Birendra’s liberal political ideology and his patriotism were seen as his weakness and had become a crime in the eyes of the expansionist and imperialist powers. During the one-sided Indian economic embargo and revolution of 1990, instead of surrendering himself to the expansionist powers, he surrendered to his people. This did not make the expansionist forces happy. Later, his unwillingness to mobilize the army—which has a tradition of loyalty towards the King—to curb the People’s Revolution taking place under the leadership of Nepal Communist Party (Maoist) became his biggest crime in the eyes of the imperialist and expansionist powers. Some Marxist pundits, based on this, called us a pro-monarchy party, and we can now say that we—NCP(Maoist) and King Birendra—had similar views on many national issues and this had created in fact an informal alliance between us. Obviously, this scared the imperialist powers and their cronies. In the context of a deteriorating Sino-US relationship and a growing strategic alliance between India and the US, the King who appeared soft on us—the Maoists—and China had become an irritation to the American Imperialists and especially to the Indian expansionists.
India’s dream of annexing Nepal like Sikkim had to be amended and instead they had to make Nepal a Bhutan first, before making it another Sikkim. After CIA (and the recently opened FBI branch in Delhi) approval, RAW (Research and Analysis Wing) [the Indian covert intelligence and operations agency] came up with a grand master plan to annex Nepal. Just like the cunning fox of folk-lore who stole the chickens by falsely shouting that an eagle was arriving, RAW too created a fake tale about the ISI (Inter Service Intelligence) [the Pakistani covert intelligence and operations agency] being active in Nepal and having penetrated the Palace. [The next few sentences, which refer to the 1964 Bhutan events, suggest a direct involvement of the new royal family in the June 1st slaughter] They even chose a Jigme Sigme for the Bhutanization of Nepal. And it is through that Jigme Sigme that the massacre was carried out. There shouldn’t be any doubt that RAW, which had already found their Lendup Dorje in Girija [the current pro-Indian Nepali Congress Prime Minister], aligned the new Jigme Sigme with their Lendup Dorje for the Bhutanization of Nepal, with a goal of eventual Sikkimization of Nepal.
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No wonder they call India USAss of South Asia and why gringo/anglo gushing about their shared values with Indians, ‘their distant Aryan Bro’ !

Posted by: denk | Sep 10 2025 14:21 utc | 330