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September 19, 2025
Poland’s Attempt To Blackmail China Will Hurt Itself Most

Over the last decade China developed the longest railway in the world running more than 8,000 miles from the east coast of China to Spain.


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The line crosses China, Russia, Belarus and Poland before splitting up into various European connections.

Over the last year the railway has carried goods between China and Europe at a value of about $25 billion.

The line is now blocked:

Poland’s decision to close its border with Belarus in response to thequadrennial Zapad-2025 military exercises and Russian drone incursion on September 10 has abruptly severed one of the fastest-growing trade arteries between China and the EU.

The impact of the closure of the Belarusian border is significant. The land corridor already represents 3.7% of all EU–China trade, up from 2.1% a year earlier. While that share remains small compared to seaborne shipments, its importance lies in speed and reliability.

Poland’s government underlined that the decision was driven by security imperatives rather than economics. Warsaw stated that “the logic of trade” was being replaced by “the logic of security,” underscoring the geopolitical risks attached to the Belt and Road corridors.

The Zapad-2025 military exercises is long over but Poland continues to block the railroad.

Its government is taking Europe's trade with China as hostage to press China to change its policy towards Russia:

Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski has said that during his meeting with his Chinese counterpart Wang Yi in a suburb of Warsaw on Monday 15 September, he will insist that China put pressure on Russia to stop "a hybrid operation" on Poland’s eastern border, which has led to the closure of Beijing’s key trade route to Europe.

Tensions escalated in May last year, when a Polish border guard was attacked and killed by a migrant.

Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk accused Belarus and Russia of weaponising migration.

Last year, Warsaw threatened to block the export route to the European Union to secure China’s help. Polish then-president Andrzej Duda raised the border tensions issue during his visit to Beijing, which "helped for a few months", Sikorski said.

"But unfortunately, this hybrid operation has intensified again. So, we need to talk again," he added.

Interestingly the Chinese reporting on the meeting between Wang Ye and Sikorski did not mention the blocking:

At the 4th meeting of Poland-China Intergovernmental Committee on Monday, the two parties exchanged views on the importance of developing effective and economically competitive Eurasian transport corridors and the pivotal role of Poland in this process.  The two sides recognized the benefits of providing mutually beneficial services for volumes of goods transported by railway, maritime and air means and of consolidating the existing and potential routes and logistical chains. Both sides expressed their willingness to ensure the safety and accessibility of the China-Europe Railway Express.

I suspect that, behind the scene, less polite words were used by Wang Yi to express the Chinese view on Poland's attempt the hinder the freedom of global trade.

The migrants do not ride on Chinese freight trains. Blocking the railroad connection between China and Europe to prevent migrants from coming through Belarus is a very crude form of blackmail that will hit back.

Should the blockade continue Poland will have to bury all hope of any future investment from China.

Western European companies who depend on the railroad connection for their trade will also become more hostile to Poland.

The coming defeat of NATO in Ukraine will contribute to the end of the military alliance.

Poland's outrageous behavior makes it more likely that the defeat in Ukraine will also help to break up the European Union.

Poland is currently the recipient of the largest EU's agricultural subsidies. Why should Germany and others continue to pay for those when Poland is impeding their trade?

Comments

Desperate moves signal desperation.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 19 2025 14:02 utc | 1

There is no difference between Poland and Germany.
These “policies” are crafted centrally. Neither is a sovereign. Poland loves to pretend that it is (little brother syndrome).
After Nordstream, the Germans have no credibility. They have no self-respect, and so, no one else will respect them.
These arbitrary flags and borders are, at best, administrative regions, not sovereign polities.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 19 2025 14:08 utc | 2

https://www.rt.com/news/624915-eu-new-russia-sanctions/
So it turns out the people who assured us Europe could never sanction China and India were wrong, AGAIN. The result will be bad news for China, and much worse news for European economies.
Good for President Trump, though.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 19 2025 14:13 utc | 3

the wording of the MSN an other Western® press propaganda echo box: “Poland’s decision to close its border with Belarus”
is funny, because it is not Poland, but USA, telling its Polish kurwa puppet to act so.
EU/EEA/NATO countries are each individually personas of USA. Like a web of ONGs, it is the usual process of spawning a multiplicity of entities that on the surface seem to be each for itself, but beneath are all under same command center.

Posted by: Timur | Sep 19 2025 14:25 utc | 4

More like Poland is impeding trade between China and the EU to make the EU more dependent on the US, Russian drones are merely a pretext.
Europe is basically vassalizing itself one corrupt leader at a time.

Posted by: Sid Victor Cattoni | Sep 19 2025 14:28 utc | 5

Whoever made that picture moved St. Petersburg to Arkhangelsk 😀
(Maybe there are more errors I didn’t spot, that one stood out to me).

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 19 2025 14:40 utc | 6

Ahh Europe, when you don’t have sovereignty it doesn’t matter who you trade with or what’s in your national interest, because the final decision isn’t yours to make. Now come on Europe be good little chihuahuas and enjoy eating your Master’s Choice vassal food, the perfect blend of economic suicide, financial sludge and industrial poverty that declining states need in order to break up and fully collapse, American approved! Coming soon to all US allies

Posted by: Kadath | Sep 19 2025 14:49 utc | 7

Ahh Europe, when you don’t have sovereignty it doesn’t matter who you trade with or what’s in your national interest, because the final decision isn’t yours to make. Now come on Europe be good little chihuahuas and enjoy eating your Master’s Choice vassal food, the perfect blend of economic suicide, financial sludge and industrial poverty that declining states need in order to break up and fully collapse, American approved! Coming soon to all US allies

Posted by: Kadath | Sep 19 2025 14:51 utc | 8

thanks b.. i was unaware of these dynamics… poland seems to be serving the usa and shooting itself in the foot at the same time..

Posted by: james | Sep 19 2025 14:57 utc | 9

Welp, the eurocucks will fight to the last dead ukie, and Poland knows they’re in the same boat. Nobody cares. So not surprising they’d do this. Notice us, please.
I doubt China cares, the volumes are too low.

Posted by: seer | Sep 19 2025 15:06 utc | 10

I see this as an example of the next phase in our civilization war….the lock up phase.
How long can which countries hold their breath? While the asshole runs the human body, supply chains run international commerce for our global body and Poland is now a blockage in that flow. In networking blockages, other routes are found and moved to…is this an option…at what cost?
The shit show continues until it doesn’t…..

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 19 2025 15:07 utc | 11

Every restorationist regime is a regression but Poland contests with Ukraine for worst cesspool, morally speaking. The relative advantage in economy Poland has I think owes a huge amount to the West forgiving 50% of Polish debt. (Primarily driven by a political need to make capitalist restoration look good at least until the USSR fell and restoration was consolidated.) So Polish policy is also driven I suspect by a vicious near-fascist anti-Communism. Do not expect much give here. It’s not like this won’t buy some temporary favor from the God-King.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 19 2025 15:10 utc | 12

@6: “Whoever made that picture moved St. Petersburg to Arkhangelsk :D”
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maps comes from Business Insider : https://www.businessinsider.com/the-longest-railway-in-the-world-2015-1
author “Amanda grew up in the US Army and graduated from the University of Missouri-School of Journalism. She lives in Washington, DC”
usual American zero knowledge about Russia or anything foreign.
the other main error in the map is wrong borders of Russia.

Posted by: Timur | Sep 19 2025 15:10 utc | 13

The Polish government is probably getting all bullish and full of bravado because of this – those idiots in the EU don’t realise that the closing of this affects trade, and prices will rise even more.
“The U.S. approved a $780 million sale of 2,506 Javelin missiles and 253 launch units to Poland to bolster its defenses amid rising Russian threats.”
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1968997322223735069#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 19 2025 15:10 utc | 14

Poland’s idiocy is unmatched as usual, except perhaps by the OUNazis. RT reported yesterday:

On September 20 China is sending the Istanbul Bridge container ship on an 18-day trip with icebreaker escort from Ningbo-Zhoushan port to Felixstowe in the UK. The new route is significantly faster than traditional voyages, which take about 40 days via the Suez Canal, 50 days via the Cape of Good Hope at Africa’s southern tip, and around 25 days via Eurasian railways. [My Emphasis]

Shipping time to closer European ports will be even shorter and is the entire rationale behind the Northern Sea Route. Some Europeans are ignoring their region’s long term interests as the Outlaw US Empire seeks to tighten its Colonial clamps onto European capital to slow its decline.
In Doctorow’s chat with Judge Nap on the 17th, transcript here, at the 20:29 mark, we have this:

Napolitano: 20:29
Last subject matter, von der Leyen, is she confronting some sort of a vote of no confidence, and if the vote of no confidence prevails, is she out of a job?…
Doctorow: Now, what has just happened? And why is it possible that she will lose this vote of no confidence? There are two of them, apparently scheduled in a week’s time from now.
21:18
The one that’s most important, I think, politically, is the one that is being sponsored by Victor Orbán’s bloc. There are deputies from various countries, but he is– the bloc that he formed is called Patriots for Europe. And that is interesting because Viktor Orban is now in really a fighting mood. He just won a very important decision by the European Court of Justice, in which the core issue was whether Orban’s very restrictive policies on immigration, which are in contradiction with the much more lax immigration regulations of the European Union, whether he would continue to face blackmail and suspension of monies that are owed to Hungary in the EU budget for violation of EU immigration rules. He won the case.
22:20
This just happened. And that put him really in a fighting mood, as came out in a message to his parliament yesterday. He initiated a vote of no confidence against von der Leyen. And who knows, they may unseat her.

That provides additional context to b’s article and his musing about the fate of EU/NATO. Europe’s dependency on the outside world for its existence will only continue to rise as time moves onward. Trump’s demand that Europe further emasculate itself via cutting of its importation of fuels must be refused along with the entire “Unequal Trade Treaty” agreed to by von der Leyen, which has yet to be approved by the EUP. It’s not too late for Europe to regain what it’s lost via its colonization by the Outlaw US Empire, but for that to happen the realists must rise up and displace the Atlanticists who have chained Europe to the Empire.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 19 2025 15:13 utc | 15

The map shows Yiwu, China. Yiwu is “small commodities city”. All those small, little products you use in daily life.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 19 2025 15:17 utc | 16

Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.
The cruel twist being that Europe believes the border lies east of the Dnieper when in fact it lies off the coast of Lisbon.

Posted by: robin | Sep 19 2025 15:18 utc | 17

It’s not too late for Europe to regain what it’s lost via its colonization by the Outlaw US Empire, but for that to happen the realists must rise up and displace the Atlanticists who have chained Europe to the Empire.
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 19 2025 15:13 utc | 15
If wishes were horses, beggars would ride. It’s far likelier for Poland and even Germany to find themselves at war with Russia- next year Poland is likely to get a vast shipment of tanks from South Korea, and more weapons on the way.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 19 2025 15:24 utc | 18

So the US flies captured Russian drones from Ukraine into Poland in order to close the border to Chinese trade and supposedly force them to disengage with Russia? Sounds like some convoluted bullshit and yet that’s typical American policy. It must be so then.

Posted by: MoT | Sep 19 2025 15:29 utc | 19

Astonishing how countries like Poland, Ukraine & Israel seem to able to push the US, Russia & China around as they please.
Is this a case of poking the eagle/bear/dragon until it ends badly, or is there something else behind it?

Posted by: Marvin | Sep 19 2025 15:35 utc | 20

One who thinks that the Poles were originally the perpetrators of the railroad blockade is wrong. Sikorski has as much in common with Poland’s interests as Moon of Alabama with the aliens from the outer space. Warsaw’s regime must have been pushed by its overlords from the US to such a ridiculous and self-harming act. The readers should rather consider the war hysteria in Poland and the numerous recent provocations as another prelude to a possible confrontation just as it happened before September 1939.

Posted by: Polak | Sep 19 2025 15:43 utc | 21

EU sanctions! Lmfao….they say 19th time is the charm……

Posted by: nook | Sep 19 2025 15:48 utc | 22

Desperate moves signal desperation.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 19 2025 14:02 utc | 1
Really. Just let them thrash about and kill themselves, then we’ll have something to discuss. Perhaps, they will hold their breath to boycott the malevolent “weaponized” eastern winds until they are blue in the face?
What can you expect from a Russia hating bilderburger with an ugly Zio American witch of a wife? They’d starve the whole country if they thought it might irritate Putin.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 19 2025 15:53 utc | 23

They Call Me Mister | Sep 19 2025 15:24 utc | 18–
South Korea is in the midst of recalibrating its foreign relations with its Foreign Minister currently visiting China, although its arms contract with Poland will likely be unaffected. This item provides details of the K2 tank purchase and home manufacture deal between Poland and South Korea. As the article details, the amount of K2s Poland will get isn’t anywhere near “vast.” Plus, the K2 isn’t 100% Korean as the article also notes. Since Russia has no desire to invade Poland, the tank purchase will be yet another waste of Poland’s scarce resources and do nothing to enhance its security.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 19 2025 15:54 utc | 24

The West wont stop. They are not rational and they are going to escalate. It is the frightend old man in Kremlin that does not understand it.

Posted by: vargas | Sep 19 2025 15:55 utc | 25

Question for the bar: why haven’t the Russians blown up the Trans Carpathian tunnel?
A. Physically impossible even with oreshniks.
B. Deal to leave it and Kerch bridge intact
C. Don’t want to disrupt Chinese shipments to Europe.
D. Some other non escalation deal with NATO.

Posted by: Mbartv | Sep 19 2025 15:56 utc | 26

This is why the belt and road initiative exists. Create a wide ranging trade network that offsets any impact one single trade participant blocking trade can have on your economy.
This is a good thing.
It signals hostility from the Poles and the euros to the Chinese side. It’ll help Chinese business leaders understand just as Russian business leaders once did. Trade and investments will be directed to more friendly countries.
Euros will lose direct access to Chinese goods just as with Russian oil. More inflation, more printed money chasing fewer goods.
Euros just digging the hole they’ve dug themselves in after Ukraine to be even deeper.

Posted by: Jules | Sep 19 2025 16:01 utc | 27

The West wont stop. They are not rational and they are going to escalate. It is the frightend old man in Kremlin that does not understand it.
Posted by: vargas | Sep 19 2025 15:55 utc | 25
I shouldn’t even respond to sweaty, little Vargas, but it’s Friday, so what the hell!
What pray tell gives you the impression that Putin is frightened? If his performance since 22 is an example of fear, Imperialism might want to give fear a try.
Seriously though, Vargas, your pitch is just not working around here. Objective reality has moved so far from your view, it is just untenable at this point. Wouldn’t you rather share your wisdom at Bluesky or some such nuthouse where the doomed Imperialists can drown their sorrows in ever bolder delusions?

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 19 2025 16:06 utc | 28

Poland is a British client state, and the Brits are still stuck in the Mackinder mindset: prevent the rise of the heartland at any cost. Closing the border to Poland is exactly what one would expect. I’d also expect the Brits/US to make sure Russia does not create a direct connection to Moldova/Romania or even Hungary. They will not tolerate the heartland to be connected to both China and Western Europe.

Posted by: Wberliner | Sep 19 2025 16:11 utc | 29

Entire article from Global Times:
CHINA / DIPLOMACY
Xi, Trump hold phone talks
By Xinhua
Published: Sep 19, 2025 08:06 PM
“Chinese President Xi Jinping on Friday held phone talks with US President Donald Trump. “
🤔

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 19 2025 16:12 utc | 30

Could be an update on the situation, as it finally dawns on the Polish government – that they are severely hurting their own economy as well.
“After diplomatic negotiations with China, Poland refused to stop and demanded that China should intervene in the Russia Ukraine war.
On September 16th, Chinese customs announced stricter quarantine measures for dairy products and fruits exported from Poland to China, directly affecting Poland’s annual export of 1.2 billion euros of agricultural products to China.
The Chinese railway department has suspended the train route from Poland to Chengdu, which accounts for 37% of Poland’s export of automotive parts to China, causing the largest automotive parts company in Poland, Marelli Group, to lose 2 million euros per day.
Till now, Poland finally recognized itself. On September 17th, China and Poland issued a joint statement, in which Poland promised to “jointly ensure the safe and smooth operation of the China Europe freight train channel”, but attached a condition of “requiring China to coordinate with Russia to reduce border military activities”. Foreign media generally believe that Poland has lost this.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 19 2025 16:16 utc | 31

Poland has a long history of misleadership and its people, like most people, are susceptible to ethnic nationalist demagoguery. Poland and its people would benefit much more with an alliance with Russia and China than with the EU and NATO. Their desire to be as affluent as Western Europeans enables their serfdom to Western capital. The peoples of the Baltic States have a similar problem.

Posted by: Keme | Sep 19 2025 16:17 utc | 32

They will not tolerate the heartland to be connected to both China and Western Europe.
Posted by: Wberliner | Sep 19 2025 16:11 utc | 29
They will do what they can do about it. That’s all.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 19 2025 16:22 utc | 33

The position of Mr. Anne Applebaum as Polish Foreign Minister does raise the issue as to who is wearing the trousers – the Polish national interest or the Russo-phobic-neocons?

Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 19 2025 16:32 utc | 34

Question for the bar: why haven’t the Russians blown up the Trans Carpathian tunnel?
Posted by: Mbartv | Sep 19 2025 15:56 utc | 26
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A very American question.
The Yanks love to blow up infrastructure and hope to pay later to rebuild it. Job and credit creation.
Bastiat’s Parable of the Broken Window.
The Russians and the Chinese will not gratuitously blow anything up. It’s dumb, like a small child throwing their toys on the floor.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 19 2025 16:40 utc | 35

South Korea is in the midst of recalibrating its foreign relations with its Foreign Minister currently visiting China, although its arms contract with Poland will likely be unaffected. This item provides details
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 19 2025 15:54 utc | 24
https://www.defenceturkey.com/en/content/korean-tanks-for-poland-5400
Riiiiight. Not sure why people who still subscribe to Berlectic thought Poland would actually stop at two batches of 180, but a major arms buildup isn’t smart to ignore. Then again, Anne Applebaum must love being the real Prime Minister. At least it’s fine for arms sales.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 19 2025 16:48 utc | 36

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 19 2025 16:16 utc | 31

Another sad trombone for the Atlanticists, of whom Trump is of course a full-fledged member alongside Soros and an entire posse of clowns big and small. Now though they have to pantomime they dont like one another which is entirely unbelievable and only accelerates the loss of any remaining legitimacy in the eyes of their respective body politics.
I mean sure you can blackmail and bribe some leaders but once the hoi polloi figure it out that doesnt work too well does it?
Its very amusing watching Amerivan officials pretend to not have been the primary antagonist in this war against Russia that they have so comprehensively lost. Yes yes, they fought their rearguard action so they can cannibalize their vassals but that was never in doubt. How long and for how much do you think those other hollowed out, indebted economies of the West can stave off the collapse of the USD? Id expect one year, maybe 2 but Im not a finance guy. It certainly is a finite, bounded condition, if unknowable.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 19 2025 16:53 utc | 37

the great success of europe
poland strong we are the strongest force in europe when it comes to the crunch we will smash all on comers.it is best russia china or germans french do not test the polish resolves we plays to win.
we polish are slows onto the horse backs but swift when mounted.
we also won the battle of britain for are polisher pilots where feerless

Posted by: tomas | Sep 19 2025 16:53 utc | 38

As an aside, it should be obvious that tanks are not what Poland would need in the event of any conflict, they need air defense and frankly the West just has ??? in that column.
The tanks in question are certainly a massive graft and transfer of Poland public funds to arms manufacturers. They also certainly dont give Poland any enhanced defensive posture.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 19 2025 16:55 utc | 39

“After diplomatic negotiations with China, Poland refused to stop and demanded that China should intervene in the Russia Ukraine war.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 19 2025 16:16 utc | 31
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Like a wife withholding sex unless the husband starts doing the dishes.
“If you don’t do X, I will cut you off from Y!”
Most men with self-respect will take a mistress who does her own dishes.
China is already doing massive consumer trade with Africa.
The perspective of the West that everyone MUST sell to them or they will become bankrupt is a stupid delusion in a now globalized world.
“Honey, with my looks and income, many women will give me what I need. You’re not as special as you think you are.”

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 19 2025 16:56 utc | 40

Poland is part of Europe and thus part of the Empire. The current struggle is, as it has been for awhile now, between nation-states and private industry. Nation-states and organizations like the EU want power so they will impoverish their industries in order to fill the power vacuum. The uber-lords in the finance-world have taken the side of governments and want to dominate the population through bread and circuses and, above all and most importantly, an Orwellian regime in every country using crude repression that will allow the oligarchs to easily pursue their perverted anti-human goals. Stopping cooperation everywhere is always their goal, or so it seems.
This is, btw, not the fault of the evil oligarchs. It is the fault of the citizens of the Empire who have eagerly accepted the obvious lies, propaganda, and toxic myth making without using either their logical faculties or their intuitions but just passively accept the diktat to consume mass quantities to assuage their most childish impulses. They have, like Pleasure Island in the story of Pinocchio, willingly turned themselves into donkeys or are in the process. This may change in Western Europe and the USA, but Poland and other former parts of the Soviet Empire seem too giddy with the urge to become donkeys. We’ll just have to see what happens but I see no possible change unless they get rid of Mr. Applebaum and her CIA/MI6/Mossad handlers.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Sep 19 2025 16:59 utc | 41

Poland’s embargo helps Poland’s export goods by making Chinese goods more expensive…kinda like Blinken/Sullivan giving the order to blow up Nordstream made US LNG saleable in Europe with the exception of Hungary/Slovakia and the Galicians blocked that line a month or so ago.
Nope, this is part and parcel of the slow-go-approach. When you give your opponent 4 or more years to develop countering measures…wait for it…they will. You are dealing with the mentality of upper-most-class of England and it’s anglicized adherents. These people have a documented rap-sheet, their skulduggery knows no bounds.
It’s time the cheerleaders put away their pom-poms and take a good hard look at the scoreboard and stop pretending their #1 rated team is kicking ass. Winning yes but…their #1 rating went elsewhere, sometime in the 1st quarter. The visiting opponent has made a game out of what should have been a romp. No opponent is going to walk into their stadium afraid of a blow-out…deterrence is long gone. Own it.
And Please…stop with the attrition counting game…huh? Knocking off pawns is not the same as taking a rook, a queen or the King of the board, the entirety of the Black Sea Coast and it’s environs. Anybody who lived through Westmoreland’s decade long bullshit knows numbers don’t win wars. The majority of ex-ukrainia’s “soldiers” who have been killed by Russia are those that the Galicians would have had to exterminate by their own means were it not for Russian artillery. Indeed, I am sure there is a Galician extermination plan in place for returning POWs who are not connected to the modern-day Waffen SS of Galicia.
Sometimes, what is obvious, has to be acknowledged and corrected. I have yet to see the Ruskies fully support any breakthrough? WTF? It’s like a having a coach who keeps fullback in the game even though the guys drops to his knees after a four yard gain. Lincoln was not a military man but, he knew he had to get the damn war over with and kept changing “coaches” until he found those that knew how to win before the clock ran out. FYI, the 1st Crimean War was 3 years long and fought to a “tie”. The “tie” of the 1st Crimean War created the dynamic for the 1st WW, which created the 2nd WW.

Posted by: S Brennan | Sep 19 2025 17:00 utc | 42

Posted by: tomas | Sep 19 2025 16:53 utc | 38
how many slow but fast riding poles does it take to switch a bulb? :3

Posted by: Macpott | Sep 19 2025 17:01 utc | 43

A very American question.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 19 2025 16:40 utc | 35
Try human question. Apply the same logic to your answer. Or do Americans sterotypically NOT speak down to others rudely. Cuz newsflash that’s kinda what you mostly do here. Not that you are wrong about blowing shit up. A smart persona like yours can find a less merican way to get your point across. No? Nobody gets anything vs maybe a take that helps someone see what alot of us yourself included can see.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 19 2025 17:07 utc | 44

Posted by: S Brennan | Sep 19 2025 17:00 utc | 42
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“Go slow” had given the Russians the greatest military victory since WW2, which was also won by the Russians.
Dramatic breakthroughs are fodder for Fox and CNN viewers.
“Go slow” is like keeping the fullback in the game as the clock is ground down by the team with the lead, exhausting the number of possessions left in the game, making a comeback impossible.
Yanks like you confuse flash with substance. Russia has goals, and Russia is on track to reach those goals. Whining from the losing side about aesthetics is like an incel who complains about a pretty girl having elbows that are too pointy.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 19 2025 17:07 utc | 45

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 19 2025 17:07 utc | 44
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I don’t think there is anything human about Zionists or Nazis, both of which control and direct the West.
Both are evil; I don’t coddle evil. YMMV.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 19 2025 17:15 utc | 46

Posted by: S Brennan | Sep 19 2025 17:00 utc | 42

Still coming to terms with the loss of the West, eh?
An American talking about how to win a war is like listening to a British subject about overthrowing a monarchy. Your last outright victory was what, against the Phillipines? I guess I could concede Grenada. Anyway with your domestic fascism coming to the fore you’re going to have plenty to deal with what with hyperinflation and civil disturbances and regional wars with south and central America for decades. It should temper the worst of Yankee megalomania. By then any dreams of workd domination will seem to you as imbecilic as they do to me now.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 19 2025 17:22 utc | 47

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride. It’s far likelier for Poland and even Germany to find themselves at war with Russia- next year Poland is likely to get a vast shipment of tanks from South Korea, and more weapons on the way.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Sep 19 2025 15:24 utc | 18
It won’t help them.
Poland has already disappeared off the map in its history, and will continue until they get collectively smarter, or at least learn that geography is history and adjust their attitude accordingly.
I used to think their reputation for stupidity was undeserved, they have proven me wrong.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 19 2025 17:26 utc | 48

Please excuse the cryptic language (for what will be obvious reasons). Note that the lack of comprehension is the proof of futility. It doesn’t matter what “it” is, it is unable to gain the comprehension it is incapable of. Try to ignore/avoid.
It has had many chances already and always fails.
And please no one spill the beans 🙂

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 19 2025 17:44 utc | 49

Both are evil; I don’t coddle evil. YMMV.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 19 2025 17:15 utc | 46
Sure. My point is still valid. You don’t know that poster was any of those things. The poster gave 4 possibilities. You gave 1 in the form of a WWE from the ropes move. Which one is evil in your mind? Would having an agreement not to blow certain shit up. Be evil? Thinking the hazle nut couldn’t crack the trans karpatian. Is evil? Am I to assume ideas you think lesser of are, evil? YMMV

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 19 2025 17:45 utc | 50

In my assessment, 90% of European ‘leaders’ are deranged, with a psychopathic hatred for their own people.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Sep 19 2025 17:48 utc | 51

Stein um Stein – Ein Lied für den Frieden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx4NF2hYAn4&list=RDmx4NF2hYAn4&start_radio=1

Posted by: exile | Sep 19 2025 17:51 utc | 52

They Call Me Mister | Sep 19 2025 16:48 utc | 36–
Thanks for your reply. You clearly ignored the timeline mentioned in the article I linked, and then there’re the numbers involved that will only add up to the 1000 over at least a five-year period and be of Polish manufacture:

Under the plan, the tanks are to be supplied to the Polish Armed Forces between 2026 and 2030….
After the first three K2PL units are made at a South Korean plant, Poland’s defense industry will take over manufacturing activities for the remaining 61 tanks of this version….
“The new units will be better equipped than the existing ones, and production will be launched next year. In the years 2028 to 2030, we plan to have full-scale domestic production,” Kosiniak-Kamysz said during the signing ceremony.

And as we’ve seen with Ukrainian attempts to manufacture its own armaments, any Polish facility would be attacked immediately by Russia if war were to erupt. Poland has no means to attack Russian tank production which currently is greater than NATO production by several multiples and of a much higher quality.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 19 2025 17:54 utc | 53

Hmm, this is reminding me of something . . .
What could it be????
Oh, yes, the decision to build Nord Stream 2 so that Russian gas could get to Europe and bypass the Ukraine gauntlet/bottleneck.
Can they “build a bridge over Poland?”

Posted by: Jane | Sep 19 2025 17:59 utc | 54

Doctor Eleven | Sep 19 2025 16:55 utc | 39–
Yes, excellent point, the lack of AD. As Hudson pointed out yesterday, future wars will be missile wars as generally territory is no longer the coveted goal as they are now close to 100% political.
I must highly suggest today’s three-way chat between Nima and the two Larrys that’s more global in scope than Eurocentric.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 19 2025 18:03 utc | 55

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 19 2025 17:45 utc | 50
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I don’t know that you exist. I literally know very little.
You completely didn’t understand my reply.
He’s starting with a premise that Russia could blow that site up. I always question premises. His, yours, my own.
It could well be any of his 4 theories, or all, or none.
My point was lighting up the Zionists (Americans, British, etc) for being the vicious and mindless animals that they are.
Destroying things, it could be argued, is the breadth and width of American military strategy. The British kill civilians at public events, and the Americans hit civilian infrastructure necessary to maintain life.
It’s just what they do.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 19 2025 18:08 utc | 56

Another alleged Russian infringement in the Baltics now. Things clearly hotting up with european nato members desperate to stir a war. Ukraine must be on its knees.

Posted by: Cavery | Sep 19 2025 18:19 utc | 57

Posted by: Cavery | Sep 19 2025 18:19 utc | 57
Another alleged Russian infringement in the Baltics now. Things clearly hotting up with european nato members desperate to stir a war. Ukraine must be on its knees.

Don’t get overexcited. There will be no sudden war against Russia. It may come but later (and then it will be started not to be won).
Ukraine & knees: yes!
Russian drones & Russian airplanes ==> this is for internal consumption
The brain of the EU citizen needs stronger and stronger propaganda doses to stay put. There’ll be much more of this.

Posted by: Konami | Sep 19 2025 18:24 utc | 58

*** These arbitrary flags and borders are, at best, administrative regions, not sovereign polities. ***
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 19 2025 14:08 utc | 2
It used to be called suzerainty.
Here is a little AI snip about that term: “Modern Relevance – Due to the binary nature of modern international law and the emphasis on full sovereignty, the concept of suzerainty is considered anachronistic and difficult to reconcile with contemporary international norms.”

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 19 2025 18:28 utc | 59

Jane | Sep 19 2025 17:59 utc | 54–
A “bridge” of a sort already exists, which is the Northern Sea Route that’s faster and cheaper. Look at b’s map again to see which nation is cutting itself off from the transit line.
Once the Ukraine conflict ends, more rail connections will enter Europe from the East as Mr. Wilkerson in today’s chat informs/reminds people. I suspect many future trade deals with China by European nations will be bilateral and avoid the EU/EC. And at some point in the future, say 2050, a new generation of European leaders will have reestablished relations with Russia primarily to regain access to its energy resources of which Russia has plenty.
Europe has seriously wounded itself with its anti-Russian policy, but the wound isn’t mortal. Europe isn’t going to suddenly break-off from the Eurasian continent and float away, nor are its people going to emigrate en-mass elsewhere. Eventually, the European body politic will recover and cease being an Outlaw US Empire colony and end its disastrous relations with Russia–something that even now isn’t universal within Europe. Europe might also decide to keep the UK at a greater distance since history shows it’s never adopted Europe’s interests as its own.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 19 2025 18:32 utc | 60

“I literally know very little”
Exactly, dumbass. Exactly.
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Posted by: Barstool | Sep 19 2025 18:32 utc | 61

another song for peace 3 versions in German, Spanish, and Swedish
Reinhard Mey & Freunde – Nein, meine Söhne geb’ ich nicht (english subtitles)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q-Ga3myTP4&list=RD1q-Ga3myTP4&start_radio=1
Unidos Por Un Cambio – No Te Daré A Mis Hijos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aoiDoHSLS8&list=RD6aoiDoHSLS8&start_radio=1
Nej mina söner får ni ej
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUVY_kewfa4&list=RDNUVY_kewfa4&start_radio=1

Posted by: exile | Sep 19 2025 18:41 utc | 62

Intelligence is not evident from the European political system fauna!

Posted by: jpc | Sep 19 2025 18:46 utc | 63

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 19 2025 18:32 utc | 60
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It won’t take ’til 2050. France is rioting today. The eurocuck economies and people are hurting. End this war firmly and the contracts will flow almost immediately. The Blob has lost and they could lose much more.

Posted by: seer | Sep 19 2025 18:46 utc | 64

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 19 2025 18:32 utc | 60
I hope you are right; however, I see no indication that Euro oligarchs are going to willingly give up power now that they have arranged state institutions to go into repression and war mode. Everywhere in the Empire individuals are fragmenting from their roots and even within their own psyches therefore the Imperial State will likely keep its hold on the populace. They key is, as it usually is, Germany. Can the society discover a way to pragmatism and ignore the appeal of repression? Repression and authoritarianism is not just appealing to oligarchs but also to many people who are fragmented as Germany demonstrated in the 30s. Germany and the rest of Europe is marching down that path once again by defining an external enemy.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Sep 19 2025 18:47 utc | 65

Europe might also decide to keep the UK at a greater distance since history shows it’s never adopted Europe’s interests as its own.
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 19 2025 18:32 utc | 60
There might not be much we recognise as Europe at that point Karloff.

Posted by: jpc | Sep 19 2025 18:48 utc | 66

Karlof1 @ 60
“Jane | Sep 19 2025 17:59 utc | 54–
A “bridge” of a sort already exists, which is the Northern Sea Route that’s faster and cheaper. Look at b’s map again to see which nation is cutting itself off from the transit line.
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I did look at the map, and it seems to me like Poland is really in the way! But, regarding the Northern Sea Route, it looks like Scandinavia is also really in the way.
I don’t follow what you say about the Northern Sea Route as a solution to the Polish Obstacle.
Does using the Northern Sea Route mean not using the long railway at all, and going all the way around Asia via the sea route?
Or do you mean use the railway as far as Archangelsk, transfer containers or train wagons onto ships, then go around Scand. and land in Rostock or somewhere? Where to get the containers/wagons back on the train?
To me what looks best is to reroute the railway south of Poland: From Belarus across a narrow Ukr corridor (yeah, another problem, but maybe solvable in the “peace talks” framework??), into Slovakia, Czechia, and back into Germany.

Posted by: Jane | Sep 19 2025 19:00 utc | 67

The “hyena of Europe” poos the bed, again !

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Sep 19 2025 19:02 utc | 68

My comment seems to have disappeared.
Perhaps it will reappear.

Posted by: Jane | Sep 19 2025 19:04 utc | 69

*** Once the Ukraine conflict ends, more rail connections will enter Europe from the East as Mr. Wilkerson in today’s chat informs/reminds people. I suspect many future trade deals with China by European nations will be bilateral and avoid the EU/EC. And at some point in the future, say 2050, a new generation of European leaders will have reestablished relations with Russia primarily to regain access to its energy resources of which Russia has plenty. ***
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 19 2025 18:32 utc | 60
Whenever I see a picture of Orban, Fico and Vučić together, I see men that look like they have something up their sleeve.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/slovakia-hungary-refuse-cut-russian-202201520.html
This is why I have been looking for the hints of a steppe trade corridor (an alternative to the Polish rail) as the blockbuster Trump solution – a play out of the US transcontinental railway book. Not only the robber barons made fortunes there. The ones with not yet published knowledge of where the rail would go did pretty well. I guess I have been too optimistic. Too much has been invested in the present trade arteries I suppose.

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 19 2025 19:04 utc | 70

…..I see no indication that Euro oligarchs are going to willingly give up power now that they have arranged state institutions to go into repression and war mode……
interesting contrast, the supposed brutal-communist-dictatorships all gave up power peacefully when the people wanted a change; on the other hand its inconceivable that in our sweet-lovely-democracies the politicians and oligarchs will leave peacefully.
as Biden once said early in his Presidency when asked about a revolt of the citizenry We got F-15s, We got Nukes

Posted by: exile | Sep 19 2025 19:11 utc | 71

the other main error in the map is wrong borders of Russia.
Posted by: Timur | Sep 19 2025 15:10 utc | 13
St Petersburg has been levitated to the location of Arkhangelsk. Oh, Mr. Business Insider!

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 19 2025 19:12 utc | 72

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 19 2025 17:07 utc | 45
>>>
The US of A has no direction. The day the collapse happens it shall be huge.

Posted by: pepe | Sep 19 2025 19:13 utc | 73

This could be an object lesson, on why railroads, at least for long-distance trade, aren’t probably futurely viable. Politics can too often shut them down.

Posted by: Call it what u will | Sep 19 2025 19:15 utc | 74

The European version of the sunk cost fallacy: shooting yourself in the foot didn’t work; why not shoot yourself in the balls?

Posted by: Roger Milbrandt | Sep 19 2025 19:25 utc | 75

I think the following makes a very important point.
That needs to be more widely known.
And, it would be interesting to know the legal situation.
WHAT IF THE RUSSIANS HAD CONDUCTED THE COUP IN 2014?
In 2014 the United States (aligned with a faction in the Ukrainian government) conducted a coup in Kiev (to replace the democratically elected Yanukovich government which was considered insufficiently pro-Europe).
Many in Eastern Ukraine rebelled against this coup-government.
A civil war began.
The coup-government claimed authority over all of Ukraine
and called itself “the Ukrainian government”.
The coup-government sent in the military to deal with the eastern rebels.
The media claimed, and still claims, that the U.S. backed coup-government had a “right” to all of Ukraine and they champion (vigorously support) a march to the Russian border.

WHAT IF THE FOLLOWING HAD HAPPENED IN 2014?
In 2014 Russia (aligned with a faction in the Ukrainian government) conducted a coup in Kiev (to replace the Yanukovich government which was considered too pro-Europe).
Many in Western Ukraine rebelled against this coup-government.
A civil war began.
The coup-government claimed authority over all of Ukraine
and called itself “the Ukrainian government”.
The coup-government called in the Russian military to deal with the western rebels.
Of course, to be consistent, the media would have to claim that the Russian backed coup-government had a “right” to all of Ukraine and that they championed a march of the Russian military to the Polish border.

The important point is that statements such as “Ukraine will not give up any of its land,” and “Zelenski Rejects Giving Land” make no sense.
This is because the coup-government, and its successors, never established authority over all of Ukraine.
ANOTHER SCENARIO
What if the Chinese (aligned with a leftist faction in the Ukrainian government) had conducted a coup in Kiev. Would this give them authority over all of Ukraine?
What is the legal situation?

Posted by: John | Sep 19 2025 19:33 utc | 76

Posted by: pepe | Sep 19 2025 19:13 utc | 73
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It started, IMO, most recently in 2008.
I don’t think it will be a grand moment like a single bomb going off.
It will be more of the same managed decline that Russia and China have been advancing.
One day, the US President won’t get a huge welcome when he visits somewhere, but due to habituation (boiling the frog effect), most won’t notice. American media won’t rush to declare defeat. It simply “will be”.
Reality doesn’t lie. The truth can always be found in action.
America and the West haven’t been this weak since the end of WW2. I think we’re past the tipping point while reserving caution for what I do not, and cannot know. Maybe the US has some miracle alien technologies and weaponry yet to be revealed.
I try to see everything in the inverse. How does Israel go back to its reputation globally (or even in America) of 2020?
Likewise, across many measures in Europe and the US. What steps would have to occur to get back on a “better” path? Is it possible for those steps to occur unchallenged by the Axis today?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 19 2025 19:33 utc | 77

The European version of the sunk cost fallacy: shooting yourself in the foot didn’t work; why not shoot yourself in the balls?
Posted by: Roger Milbrandt | Sep 19 2025 19:25 utc | 75
Well put.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 19 2025 19:37 utc | 78

Since Russia has no desire to invade Poland, the tank purchase will be yet another waste of Poland’s scarce resources and do nothing to enhance its security.
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 19 2025 15:54 utc | 24
No one cares what Russia does. Poland isn’t defending or faking, it’s preparing to attack either Ukr and go to Black Sea (they talked about sea again this week) or have a party in Belarus. It would not surprise me to see Poland in a nato country like Hungary in case Orban makes problems. Who’s going to stop them? The 3 soldiers Hungary has? Exactly the reason why Poland “demands” nukes right now, fast.
Trumpy also said (again) that he wants to go back to Afgh. You can’t expect the world to stop while the little smo goes door to door for 20 years, do you?

Posted by: rk | Sep 19 2025 19:37 utc | 79

“I literally know very little”
Exactly, dumbass. Exactly.
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Posted by: Barstool | Sep 19 2025 18:32 utc | 61
Just curious. What point did Love make that you disagree with? All that anger doesn’t come from nowhere. Don’t be a pussy. Just say what you disagree with, trigger.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 19 2025 19:42 utc | 80

Oh, they’re really getting antsy….
“Nato intercepts Russian fighter jets on ‘reckless’ violation of Estonian airspace
Italian air force heads off three MiG-31s over Gulf of Finland amid increased tension on alliance’s eastern border”

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 19 2025 19:45 utc | 81

Posted by: Call it what u will | Sep 19 2025 19:15 utc | 74
If only folks in the times of industrialization realized. We’d still live under enlightened absolute monarchs, happily ever after.
Likewise, Ansar Allah gave us an object lesson on the probable futurely viability of shipping. Better get rid of thet as well.
What about ox carts? Probably futurely viable or nah? Given current trajectory, the cynic in me would say ploughing the drained soil with Oxen is where we are heading.

Posted by: kspr | Sep 19 2025 19:46 utc | 82

@Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 19 2025 14:40 utc | 6

Whoever made that picture moved St. Petersburg to Arkhangelsk 😀

Yes, they misplaced the Russias 2nd city some ~500 km and put it on the shore of the wrong sea.
Education isn’t what it used to be.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 19 2025 19:52 utc | 83

@Timur | Sep 19 2025 15:10 utc | 13
They moved St. Petersburg back 🙂

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 19 2025 19:55 utc | 84

Yes, they misplaced the Russias 2nd city some ~500 km and put it on the shore of the wrong sea.
Education isn’t what it used to be.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 19 2025 19:52 utc | 83
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So, presumably the railway does go to St. Petersburg—the one that is located on the Gulf of Finland.

Posted by: Jane | Sep 19 2025 19:58 utc | 85

Posted by: jpc | Sep 19 2025 18:46 utc | 63
Intelligence is not evident from the European political system fauna!

Replying because this is a common stance.
I think it’s wrong, or rather misled. Individual EU politicians may be stupid (as in: dumb). As a German, I nominate Baerbock for the stupid lot. But as a *class*, they’re functioning and are acting *rationally*.
The crucial point: their goals aren’t our goals. What they do follows a plan (or a script, if you will) and it might actually work.
Don’t hate/fight them because they’re stupid but because they’re willing to enact a plan that will (intentionally!!) ruin the lives of most EU citizens.

Posted by: Konami | Sep 19 2025 20:04 utc | 86

@Jane | Sep 19 2025 19:58 utc | 85

So, presumably the railway does go to St. Petersburg—the one that is located on the Gulf of Finland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Petersburg%E2%80%93Moscow_railway

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 19 2025 20:14 utc | 87

The European version of the sunk cost fallacy: shooting yourself in the foot didn’t work; why not shoot yourself in the balls?
Posted by: Roger Milbrandt | Sep 19 2025 19:25 utc | 75
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Stimulus for the medical and funeral services sectors, not to mention estate attorneys.
That is how Western Capitalist economics functions. Like how Hollywood mostly does remakes now, they destroy things to create jobs, and extort/expropriate investment to create “growth”.
It works in the short term, but the window of effectiveness shortens with every use.
Imagine an assembly line, feeding a conveyor belt right into a volcano.
As fast as things are made, they must be destroyed to keep the economy going!

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 19 2025 20:18 utc | 88

The US and EU are bullshitters, like all narcissists. They will continue to gaze in the mirror and beat their chests in impotent rage while everything they worship goes down the toilet. Their weapons and tactics were humiliated in Ukraine and now all they can do is cry and point fingers. They are more likely to turn on each other.

Posted by: nook | Sep 19 2025 20:26 utc | 89

Polak | Sep 19 2025 15:43 utc | 21

One who thinks that the Poles were originally the perpetrators of the railroad blockade is wrong. Sikorski has as much in common with Poland’s interests as Moon of Alabama with the aliens from the outer space. Warsaw’s regime must have been pushed by its overlords from the US to such a ridiculous and self-harming act. The readers should rather consider the war hysteria in Poland and the numerous recent provocations as another prelude to a possible confrontation just as it happened before September 1939*.

Wah!Wah!Wah! It wasn’t me ! He made me do it !
* (italics mine) WTF ?

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Sep 19 2025 20:27 utc | 90

You completely didn’t understand my reply.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 19 2025 18:08 utc | 56
I understand your response. You will do what you believe is right. Even if it’s wrong to the others around you. Lord knows I been there.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 19 2025 20:30 utc | 91

Three Russian military jets violated NATO member Estonia’s airspace for 12 minutes on Friday in an “unprecedentedly brazen” incursion … the Russian jets flew around 5 nautical miles (9 km) into NATO airspace
Estonia said the airspace violation occurred on Friday morning in the area of Vaindloo Island, around 100 kilometres (124 miles) from the capital Tallinn. (reuters)

Vaindloo is a rock in the Baltic, 600m by 200m (650 yard by 220 yard). There is no permanent population. There is a lighthouse, a radar and hundreds of birds.
Estonian airspace extends 12 nautical miles (22.2 kilometers) from its coastline over the sea.
The news article makes it sound as if Russian jets were flying above Estonia. A more correct statement would be

“Russian planes fly to and from Kaliningrad all the time. Today three Russian planes flew 7 nautical miles (13 km) from an uninhabited Estonian rock in the middle of the Baltic”

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 19 2025 20:32 utc | 92

It’s one of those curiosities of European history that, every now and then, the very concept of ‘Poland’ entirely disappears from maps of Europe, periodically re-emerging, but never exactly in the same place twice. Is it looking for another go-round?
Just for the trolling, isn’t it about time Danzig returned to its rightful place??!!

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 19 2025 20:46 utc | 93

The voyage of the Istanbul Bridge container ship with an armed Chinese navy icebreaker escort is a clear challenge to the fascist supporting government of Canada. This mini convoy will transit through Canadian territorial waters.
Lets see how Mr. EU Carney responds (Canada has no armed icebreakers by the way – none) to this geo-political move challenge……….he is so weak……words are not appropriate.

Posted by: tobias cole | Sep 19 2025 20:53 utc | 94

I would think Poland does this at the behest of their U.S. masters. From what I can see, Poland and the Baltic States are puppet governments of the U.S.

Posted by: Jeffrey Kaye | Sep 19 2025 20:58 utc | 95

Jane | Sep 19 2025 17:59 utc | 54

Hmm, this is reminding me of something . . .
What could it be????
Oh, yes, the decision to build Nord Stream 2 so that Russian gas could get to Europe and bypass the Ukraine gauntlet/bottleneck.
Can they “build a bridge over Poland?”

A bridge too far ?

I’ll get me coat

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Sep 19 2025 21:02 utc | 96

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 19 2025 19:33 utc | 77
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The answer to your question is a resounding NO. And the collapse shall be profund.
God Bless VVP the Supreme Commander in Chief of the Russian Federation.

Posted by: pepe | Sep 19 2025 21:02 utc | 97

I for one would be curious to know how much of Poland’s politics, post-1989, is dominated by the Polish diaspora in North America, western Europe and elsewhere, in the way the politics of Ukraine and the Baltic chihuahuas have been dominated by their respective diaspora populations (many of whom are descended from Nazi collaborators) in the West. Radoslaw Sikorski / Mr Anne Applebaum won’t be the only Polish politician with a direct line to US media and the US State Department.
While he was alive, Pope John Paul II apparently interfered a great deal in Polish domestic policy. Who knows if the notorious Zbigniew Brzezinski, with his loathing for anything Russia-related, also meddled in Polish politics?
Some of these Polish diaspora folks may also harbour Intermarium ambitions – the belief that Poland should be the rightful ruler of lands between the Baltic and Black Seas, as it once did, centuries ago – and such ambitions may be feeding current nationalist elements in Warsaw. Of course, some of these Intermarium delusions are homegrown as well.
If the EU or NATO were to collapse, the power vacuum that might result is likely to be filled fast by Poland and its ambitions. It looks as if sometime in the next couple of decades, the Russian military will be marching through Warsaw as it did in Paris in the early 1800s and in Berlin in 1945.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 19 2025 21:06 utc | 98

SRB @ 6, Timur @ 13:
Business Insider rectified the map in its original article, moving St Petersburg to its correct liocation, and covered up an even more egregious error – drowning Yemen in the Indian Ocean!

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 19 2025 21:15 utc | 99

Several comments: “Russian drones”… Which “Russian drones”? There was never Russian drones over Poland.
Did someone fall for it?

Posted by: Naive | Sep 19 2025 21:16 utc | 100