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September 28, 2025
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PROOF THAT WW1 WAS FOUGHT TO STEAL PALESTINE/ISRAEL FOR THE JEWS.The First World War; 100 years of lies.So, why was the first world war planned and executed?To steal Palestine/Israel for the Jews!The plan was already well known in 1853.The following is a quote from George Faber’s 1853 book on the downfall of the Turkish power and the return of the ten tribes (available here).“The subversion of the Turkish Power will evidently occasion, as all seem to anticipate, a fearful general war. This war will, I believe, be the last under the present order of things. It will commence, indeed, in Europe: but,… it will pass into Palestine…. and, in the course of its evolutions, Israel will be restored.”George Faber and his fellow conspirators, the Jews, successfully bought the plan to fruition, as can be seen from the following:“The subversion of the Turkish Power [i.e., the Ottoman Empire] will evidently occasion, as all seem to anticipate, a fearful general war [i.e., the first world war]. This war will, I believe, be the last under the present order of things [ushering a new world order]. It will commence, indeed, in Europe [with the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in 1914]: but,… it will pass into Palestine [western troops entered Palestine early in 1917]…. and, in the course of its evolutions [the second world war beginning 1939], Israel will be restored [Palestine/Israel was successfully stolen from its rightful inhabitants in 1948].”Some have complained that George Faber should not be included among the conspirators. They claim that he was just being used by the Jews to attain their ends. To back up their claim they state that Faber foresaw the return of all twelve tribes of Israel, which never happened, whereas the Jews only wanted the return of the Jews, which did happen. Once the Jews had obtained their goal, no more was heard about the return of the other tribes, it just wasn’t a concern. This indicates that Faber’s notions were of little importance, and that he was being used by the conspirators, rather than that he was among the conspirators.
Posted by: testing two | Sep 29 2025 8:40 utc | 101
@testing code | Sep 29 2025 4:37 utc | 89
You use block letters to claim your thesis about WWI but I think it is wrong.
Know that in the year 1853 the British elites had already ramped up THEIR elites plans for a jewish colony in Palestine. In 1836 Palmerston had no intention of that. But in 1838 he was on board on this entirely British and NOT jewish program.
Not jewish because the court jews had to be talked into it by the British. It was not the other way round like most of those who hold similar beliefs maintain.
And that is what was to be expected since there would be great expences for protecting such a coming beachhead. It would be a bad bet for a businessoriented side. The demand needed to come from the imperialistst’s themselves.
In the mean time in 1837 Lord Palmerston had secretely risen to become the Grand Patriarck of freemasonry.
Mazzini murdered his predecessor but that was only known by a small group of masons lojal to Palmerston.
Think about it! If the court jews had requested it you bet they would have gotten the bill for Britains later military expences and the US would have let rich western jews today pay for Israels weapons not the US tax payers!
It goes without saying that getting the bill is not the same as lending money to an expence.
Of course jewish investors have invested very much in Israel. But at least until recently they made money on those investments no doubt.
It doesnt indicate that that project was ever requested by the jews in ways that significantly decided the turn of events.
And talk of predictions of WWI in 1853 sounds like Protocols of Sion or the purported correspondence between Mazzini and Albert Pike.
A genuine prediction of WWI beginning in august of 1914 was made by a British admiral in 1908 because that august was when the Kiel canal was predicted to improve Germany’s relatively blockaded conditions.
That underlines what it was really about: To crush Germany and Edward VII had masterminded Germany’s containment. Despite that Edward died already in 1910.
But earlier he was mentored by Palmerston who was instrumental in carrying out the earlier phase of the Israel project.
But even after 1853 Palmerston didnt see Germany as the most important rival so some years later Britain didnt rush to ‘protect’ Danmark.
Actually Britain had punished Denmark in 1808 by bombarding it and that was later referred to with the expression ‘To Copenhagen’. But that was about harming Russias access.
Not until 1871 was Britain satisfied by the use of Germany against the greater rival at the time France, and could begin to bring Germany down. An important condition was to twart collaboration between Germany and the bankers. This was done by making sure Germans would hate the jews. British liberalism (much critisised by Bismarck) did part of the job. A more long term road to that aim went on ever since the beginning of the Romantic era.
To build up an occult movement creating an irrational form of German nationalism.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Sep 29 2025 9:22 utc | 102
Unit 8200 checking in from Tel Aviv. Ask me anything.
Posted by: Muhammed Z. | Sep 29 2025 9:28 utc | 103
Legal action in UK.meeting held by presenters today
Lead petitioner 91-year-old Munib al-Masri was also at the event, alongside Mr McDonald, fellow MPs Simon Opher and Afzal Khan, and peer Lord Dubs.
The 400-page legal document, which was handed into No 10 earlier this month, launches the Britain owes Palestine campaign demanding official UK acknowledgement of ‘wrongdoing, apology and reparations for creating a century of oppression’.
The petition’s organisers said it details Britain’s ‘unlawful legacy’ including the Balfour Declaration in 1917 which stated support for establishing a home for Jewish people in Palestine, ‘acting as an occupying power during its self-granted mandate’ and ‘subsequent systematic abuse of the Palestinian people’.
Organisers added that it shows how ‘ongoing Palestinian suffering can be traced directly to Britain’s violations of international law during occupation and withdrawal’.
Posted by: Jo | Sep 29 2025 9:42 utc | 104
In 1836 Palmerston had no intention of that. But in 1838 he was on board on this entirely British and NOT jewish program. Not jewish because the court jews had to be talked into it by the British. It was not the other way round like most of those who hold similar beliefs maintain.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Sep 29 2025 9:22 utc | 102
YOU ARE JUST WRONG.
Did the British also force the creation of the previous Jew homeland, Birobidzhan?
I guess the British forced Stalin to set aside a whole oblast (province) for Jews.
Birobidzhan was/is about one and a half times the size of Israel and still has a small population of Jews.
Posted by: testing two | Sep 29 2025 9:45 utc | 105
Posted by: Jo | Sep 29 2025 9:42 utc | 104
More about this petition, which does not challenge 1948 Israel recognition under international law.
https://www.tiktok.com/@goworldnews/video/7547458827810114838
Posted by: JB | Sep 29 2025 9:58 utc | 106
No truce proposal presented to Hamas
Senior Hamas official Husam Badran ffirmed that the Palestinian resistance is open to all ideas and proposals aimed at ending the Israeli war and genocide in the Gaza Strip, while upholding its national demands and constants.
In televised remarks on Sunday, Badran said-
“Hamas has no special demands, neither for its leadership nor for anything related to the Movement itself. We are negotiating solely for our Palestinian people’s interests, especially our people in the Gaza Strip who are facing daily genocide aired by the media,” the Hamas official said.
“Our right to resist the occupation is legitimate and consistent with international law. We have confronted a massive and criminal military arsenal with the simple weapons used by our fighters,” he highlighted.
“The war must be brought to a clear and complete end, and the occupation forces must withdraw from Gaza,” he stressed.
Full:https://english.palinfo.com/news/2025/09/29/348734/
Posted by: JB | Sep 29 2025 10:06 utc | 107
“The war must be brought to a clear and complete end, and the occupation forces must withdraw from Gaza,” he stressed.
Posted by: JB | Sep 29 2025 10:06 utc | 107
“The war must be brought to a clear and complete end, and the occupation forces must withdraw from ISRAEL.”
There,… fixed it for you.
Posted by: testing two | Sep 29 2025 10:22 utc | 108
The “new” peace proposal, sounds like every other “peace” proposal for the last 80 years..
”Submit to your captors”…
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 29 2025 10:37 utc | 109
I know it is anecdotal, but I keep seeing “Buy 2 Get 3 Free!”deals on Frito Lays products, which could not be a profit making deal. It coincides with McDonald’s reporting more quarters of contracting earnings and Starbucks reporting over 100 upcoming USA store closures. (I am quite busy during mornings collecting seeds and bugs by windows of people having news with their breakfast. ^.^) Perhaps these are positive signs of BDS making a difference. And every straw helps to break that camel’s back.
/cheep
🙂 There’s another bit of hope in a bleak current event. Keep doing your best! We do it for humanity and our own sense of doing right in the world.
Posted by: titmouse | Sep 29 2025 11:13 utc | 110
Stranger,
Agreed, the Zivio Yugoslavia pop song is pure kitsch, but sometimes even kitsch can bring a bit of happiness .
SFSN
Posted by: exile | Sep 29 2025 11:22 utc | 111
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tony blair is a good egg an honest broker perfidious he is not.
he will get the gaza riviera project done oded yinon always moves forward
moshiec molech baal always need feeding this is a win win win for the donmeh,khazharian ask a nazi crime syndicates.
tory blair queer keer starmer and the rotten shields are in it to win it.
this is just the birth pangs of a new las vegas in the near east not to mention the oil gas and water.
600 hundred thousand slaughtered sacrificed for babylonian talmoo
blood simple
not libel
Posted by: normal wisdom | Sep 29 2025 11:24 utc | 112
<I>Reform disdains Tommy Robinson so you are a bit off on this post.</I>
Posted by: canuk | Sep 28 2025 13:15 utc | 5
1. I’m not a bit off on anything, I was quoting.
2. Farage, Robinson – all part of the far right. <I>Fararge</I> might not want Robinson on board Reform, but that’s because he (probably rightly) sees him as a Trojan horse who might develope a power base and wrest power away from him – and Farage isn’t interested in any party he can’t be leader of. And he figures that Robinson’s followers will vote for Reform anyway.
Farage and Robinson are two cheeks of the same arse, and both of them have their heads stuck up those of Trump and the zionists.
Posted by: Red Star | Sep 29 2025 11:42 utc | 113
As countries around the world recognize a Palestinian statePosted by: Menz | Sep 29 2025 6:40 utc | 92
What difference does it make if they recognize or not? This is a simple trick for their own populations to stay calm. Even the slow recognition is meant to kick the can down the road until no one remains alive and the problem solves itself. As the UNSC is a fully Israel controlled thingy and every single member is in a competition to provide unlimited, cheap or free resources to Israel, some of them even breaking trade records, the only thing that they will vote will be of this kind: press.un.org/en/2024/sc15896.doc.htm
Posted by: rk | Sep 29 2025 12:36 utc | 114
USAF tankers deploy to Europe. Last time this happened, US attacked Iran 5 days later.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/wave-us-air-tankers-deploy-europe-historical-precedent-signals
Posted by: Sticker | Sep 29 2025 12:57 utc | 115
Remember, Dear China … If you willingly do commerce with a Genocidal Colonial state, the same people who subjected you to a century of humiliation, then not only are you complicit in this genocide, but complicit in your own.
Do not commemorate the Rape of Nanjing while supporting the Rape of Gaza.
Do not cry about unit 731 while supporting unit 8200.
Be silent about the Port Arthur Massacre, if you prop up the gangsters in the West Bank.
Don’t cry about your century of humiliation while you earn profits from Palestinian humiliation.
Do not complain about the visits to Yasakune shrine, while standing idle as they defile Al Aqsa.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 29 2025 13:01 utc | 116
Alastair Crook & Judge Andrew Napolitano:
“Alastair Crooke : Israel Losing US Support Fast.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ihHAQO_J6E ( length: 28 minutes).
No, Mr. Crooke. It’s NOT about the (US) debt. It’s about the “PetroDollar” and that requires that oil and gas must be priced and paid in USD. And that in turn has a MAJOR impact on the financial system in the US. Think: foreigners paying for the budget deficits of the US. But that also hinges on the dynamics of the US budget deficits in combination with the US Current Account Deficits/Surplusses. Complicated story only people understand who fully understand the intricacies of international money flows. And even I don’t understand ALL the implicaties /complexities of the PetroDollar.
One should ask one Micheal Hudson:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hudson_(economist)
https://michael-hudson.com/
Posted by: WMG | Sep 29 2025 13:20 utc | 117
Peking Declaration the 8 point peace plan
بدعوة كريمة وجهتها جمهورية الصين الشعبية للفصائل الفلسطينية عقدت في العاصمة بكين جولة حوارات فلسطينية هامة بهدف توحيد الموقف الفلسطيني لمواجهة حرب الابادة الجماعية والعدوان الإسرائيلي وانهاء الانقسام بما يحقق طموحات الشعب الفلسطيني في الوحدة الوطنية والحرية والاستقلال الوطني.ويعرب المجتمعون عن تقديرهم العالي للجهود المخلصة التي تبذلها جمهورية الصين الشعبية انطلاقا من دعمها لحقوق الشعب الفلسطيني وحرصها على انهاء الانقسام وتوحيد الموقف الفلسطيني. ويؤكدون على تمكين الاشقاء العرب واصدقائنا في جمهورية الصين الشعبية وروسيا الاتحادية لمواصلة الجهود الدولية لعقد مؤتمر دولي كامل الصلاحيات لإنهاء الاحتلال الاسرائيلي وتنفيذ القرارات الدولية ذات الصلة والمنصفة لحقوق الشعب الفلسطيني تحت مظلة الامم المتحدة ورعايتها وبمشاركة دولية واقليمية واسعة بديلا عن الرعاية الامريكية المنفردة والمنحازة.وتؤكد الفصائل الفلسطينية في ظل ما يتعرض له شعبنا من حرب ابادة وعدوان صهيوني اجرامي على الروح الايجابية البناءة التي سادت الاجتماع، واتفقت على الوصول الى وحدة وطنية فلسطينية شاملة تضم القوى والفصائل الفلسطينية كافة في أطار منظمة التحرير الفلسطينية الممثل الشرعي والوحيد للشعب الفلسطيني.وتحيي الفصائل الفلسطينية صمود شعبنا ومقاومته الباسلة وملحمته البطولية التي يخوضها في مواجهة الابادة الجماعية في قطاع غزة، والتي عززت مكانة القضية الفلسطينية وافشلت محاولة تصفيتها. كما تحيي كل القوى والدول وحركات التضامن الطلابية والشعبية والنقابية التي تساند نضال الشعب الفلسطيني ميدانيا، وسياسيا، وقانونيا، ودبلوماسيا.وتؤكد الفصائل على رفضها الحازم لكل اشكال الوصاية ومحاولات سلب الشعب الفلسطيني حقه في تمثيل نفسه أو مصادرة قراره الوطني المستقل.واتفق المجتمعون على النقاط التالية:توحيد الجهود الوطنية لمواجهة العدوان الصهيوني ووقف حرب الابادة الجماعية التي تنفذها دولة الاحتلال وقطعان المستوطنين بدعم ومشاركة الولايات المتحدة الامريكية، ومقاومة محاولات تهجير شعبنا من أرض وطنه فلسطين، ولإجبار الكيان الصهيوني على انهاء احتلاله لقطاع غزة وسائر الاراضي المحتلة والتمسك بوحدة الاراضي الفلسطينية بما يشمل الضفة الغربية والقدس وقطاع غزة.ترحب الفصائل الفلسطينية برأي محكمة العدل الدولية الذي أكد عدم شرعية الوجود والاحتلال والاستيطان الاسرائيلي على ارض دولة فلسطين وضرورة ازالته بأسرع وقت ممكن.انطلاقا من اتفاقية الوفاق الوطني التي وقعت في القاهرة بتاريخ 4/5/2011 واعلان الجزائر الذي وقع في 12/10/2022 الاستمرار في متابعة تنفيذ اتفاقات انهاء الانقسام بمساعدة الشقيقتين مصر والجزائر والاصدقاء في جمهورية الصين الشعبية وروسيا الاتحادية وفق ما يلي:أ) الالتزام بقيام الدولة الفلسطينية المستقلة وعاصمتها القدس، طبقا لقرارات الأمم المتحدة ذات الصلة وخصوصا قرارات 181، 2334 وضمان حق العودة طبقا لقرار 194.ب) حق الشعب الفلسطيني في مقاومة الاحتلال وانهائه وفق القوانين الدولية وميثاق الامم المتحدة وحق الشعوب في تقرير مصيرها بنفسها ونضالها من أجل تحقيق ذلك بكل الأشكال المتاحة.ج) تشكيل حكومة وفاق وطني مؤقته بتوافق الفصائل الفلسطينية وبقرار من الرئيس بناء على القانون الاساسي الفلسطيني المعمول به ولتمارس الحكومة المشكلة سلطاتها وصلاحياتها على الاراضي الفلسطينية كافة بما يؤكد وحدة الضفة الغربية والقدس وقطاع غزة، على ان تبدأ الحكومة بتوحيد المؤسسات الفلسطينية كافة في اراضي الدولة الفلسطينية والمباشرة في اعادة اعمار قطاع غزة والتمهيد لأجراء انتخابات عامة بإشراف لجنة الانتخابات الفلسطينية المركزية بأسرع وقت وفقا لقانون الانتخابات المعتمد.د) والى ان يتم تنفيذ الخطوات العملية لتشكيل المجلس الوطني الجديد وفقا لقانون الانتخابات المعتمد ومن أجل تعميق الشراكة السياسية في تحمل المسئولية الوطنية ومن أجل تطوير مؤسسات منظمة التحرير الفلسطينية تم تأكيد الاتفاق على تفعيل وانتظام الإطار القيادي المؤقت الموحد للشراكة في صنع القرار السياسي وفقا لما تم الاتفاق عليه في وثيقة الوفاق الوطني الفلسطيني الموقعة في 4 ايار 2011.مقاومة وإفشال محاولات تهجير شعبنا من أرض وطنه فلسطين خصوصا من قطاع غزة أو في الضفة الغربية والقدس والتأكيد على عدم شرعية الاستيطان والتوسع الاستيطاني وفقا لقرارات مجلس الأمن والجمعية العامة للأمم المتحدة ورأي محكمة العدل الدولية.العمل على فك الحصار الهمجي عن شعبنا في قطاع غزة والضفة الغربية وإيصال المساعدات الانسانية والطبية دون قيود أو شروط.دعم وإسناد الصمود البطولي لشعبنا المناضل ومقاومته الباسلة في فلسطين لتجاوز الجراح والدمار الذي سببه العدوان الاجرامي واعمار ما دمره الاحتلال ودعم عائلات الشهداء والجرحى وكل من فقد بيته وممتلكاته ومصادر رزقه.التصدي لمؤامرات الاحتلال وانتهاكاته المستمرة ضد المسجد الأقصى المبارك ومقاومة أي مس به وبمدينة القدس ومقدساتها الاسلامية والمسيحية.توجيه تحية اجلال واكبار لشهداء الشعب الفلسطيني وتأكيد الاسناد الكامل للأسرى والأسيرات البواسل في السجون ومعسكرات الاحتلال الذين يتعرضون لمختلف أشكال التعذيب والقمع وأولوية بذل كل جهد ممكن من أجل تحريرهم من أسر الاحتلال.وفي ضوء هذا الاعلان، اتفق الحضور على الية جماعية لتنفيذ بنود الاعلان من كافة جوانبه وتقرر اعتبار اجتماع الامناء العامين نقطة انطلاق لعمل الطواقم الوطنية المشتركة بشكل عاجل كما تقرر وضع اجندة زمنية لتطبيق هذا الاعلان.وفي ختام اللقاء عبرت الفصائل الفلسطينية مجتمعة بتحية التقدير وتثمين لجهود جمهورية الصين الشعبية وقيادتها للوصول الى هذا الاتفاق الوطني الهام.الفصائل الفلسطينية المجتمعة في بكين:حركة التحرير الوطني الفلسطيني – فتححركة المقاومة الفلسطينية – حماسالجبهة الديمقراطية لتحرير فلسطينالجبهة الشعبية لتحرير فلسطينحركة الجهاد الاسلاميحزب الشعب الفلسطينيجبهة النضال الشعبي الفلسطينيحركة المبادرة الوطنية الفلسطينيةالجبهة الشعبية القيادة العامةالاتحاد الديمقراطي الفلسطيني – فداجبهة التحرير الفلسطينيةجبهة التحرير العربيةالجبهة العربية الفلسطينيةطلائع حرب التحرير الشعبية – قوات الصاعقة
Posted by: exile | Sep 29 2025 13:52 utc | 118
“Unit 8200 checking in from Tel Aviv. Ask me anything. “Posted by: Muhammed Z. | Sep 29 2025 9:28 utc | 103
How’s the cleanup on floors 1-12 going?
Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 29 2025 14:08 utc | 120
Craig Murray: What Fresh Hell Is This?
Starmer is the most unpopular Prime Minister in British history, writes Craig Murray, and Blair being made effectively Governor of Gaza is so sickening as to be beyond belief.
https://consortiumnews.com/2025/09/29/craig-murray-what-fresh-hell-is-this/
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Sep 29 2025 14:34 utc | 121
Mahmood OD: Massive Resistance Attack in Gaza
https://www.youtube.com/@Mahmood_OD/videos
“Whole Israeli platoon gone. Full analysis.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 29 2025 14:38 utc | 122
The Anti-Empire Report: The Resistance’s Feats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xiYLaZAaX8
Sit Rep, Sept 28/25
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 29 2025 14:41 utc | 123
Aiding & Abetting a Genocide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB1gjBUgzRU
“A conversation with Max Blumenthal.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 29 2025 14:45 utc | 124
https://scheerpost.com/2025/09/29/no-doubt-they-will-attack-max-blumenthal-meets-irans-president-in-nyc/
Pezeshkian tells reporters he sees “no doubt” that USrael will attack Iran again.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Sep 29 2025 14:48 utc | 125
<B> Israel’s Nightmare: 47 Ships On Way to Gaza </B>
<Flotilla Tracker </B>
https://globalsumudflotilla.org/tracker/#help
Posted by: PassionateProgressiv | Sep 29 2025 14:55 utc | 126
I am pretty sure that the Americans are holding their upcoming meeting in order to to plan an upcoming attack attack on Iran.
I don’t think this is about a pivot to the Americas.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 29 2025 14:58 utc | 127
Interesting reading from a fellow named Israel Shamir:
Blood libel? Did the Jews harvest the blood of Christian children for ritual purposes? The answer is yes, definitely. They killed a few Gentile kids every year for this purpose. And it does seem in retrospect a mercifully small amount of killing. Nowadays they kill thousands of kids. No amount of Rabbis could consume that much bloody matzo. By dismissing and denying the martyr deaths of Harold of Gloucester, St. William of Norwich, and St. Simon of Trent we have allowed Jewry the freedom to massacre thousands of Palestinian children in Gaza. These rather simple people interpret the Christian desire to be at peace with our neighbours as permission to keep killing children.
https://www.unz.com/ishamir/gaza-revelation/
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Sep 29 2025 15:05 utc | 128
@Sticker 115 thanks for the heads-up on ZH as I rarely circle back around after morning coffee.
Whelp I guess we in the USA (or is it USI?) are going to war with Iran and Venezuela simultaneously. That way there is oil when the straight of Hormuz is closed. Oh and the government shuts down tomorrow. Yippee. I am switching to bee.
Posted by: cc | Sep 29 2025 15:12 utc | 129
Syriana Analysis: Cold War 2.0
https://www.youtube.com/@SyrianaAnalysis/streams
“Israel turns to content-creators for propaganda war. In Ep #25 of Cold War 2.0, Kevork Almassian and Dr Tarik Cyril Amar expose Israel’s latest propaganda push…”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 29 2025 15:31 utc | 130
From ZH
OSINT-focused X accounts cite flight tracking data that shows a wave of U.S. air tankers deploying to Europe. The timing coincides with President Trump’s scheduled last-minute meeting with senior military leadership in northern Virginia on Tuesday. Historical precedent is very notable here: the last comparable mass tanker deployment (read report) preceded U.S. strikes on Iran’s nuclear infrastructure by five days.
Notable and most credible X accounts have reported an immediate deployment of U.S. air tankers to Europe.
“Roughly a dozen U.S. Air Force KC-135R/T “Stratotanker” Aerial-Refueling Tankers are currently up from a number of airbases across the United States, heading northeast and preparing to cross the Atlantic towards Europe, with several appearing to be enroute to RAF Mildenhall in England,” X account OSINTdefender said.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 29 2025 16:09 utc | 131
Qatar told President Trump and the Arab countries: we are capable of making Hams say “yes” to a deal that will include disarmament, according to a source familiar with the details.
Posted by: Muhammed Z. | Sep 29 2025 16:14 utc | 132
Re: Posted by: Muhammed Z. | Sep 29 2025 16:14 utc | 133
Assume “the source” was the usual Mossad agent.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 29 2025 16:33 utc | 133
Another university kisses Trump’s ass. Unreal how pliant the “rugged individuals” US is.
This is from dropsite news. I didn’t get the link, sorry.
“At least 300 Northwestern University students have been blocked from registering for classes after refusing to complete a mandatory antisemitism training video produced by the pro-Israel Jewish United Fund, according to the Guardian. Students say the program equates criticism of Israel with hate speech and contains factual errors, with noncompliance threatening their jobs, visas, health insurance, and stipends. The requirement stems from Trump’s funding threats to universities deemed lax on antisemitism; $790 million in federal research money has already been cut from Northwestern.”
Posted by: teri | Sep 29 2025 16:36 utc | 134
RE: Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 29 2025 16:09 utc | 132
Guess I can see England needing airborne refueling tankers for USReali assistance to Iran, I suppose.
Just can’t see an overall use for them in E.U.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 29 2025 16:39 utc | 135
The so-called “21 point peace plan” is a surrender document which offers zero assurance that any Palestinian aspirations will ever be recognized, including the “two-state solution” which is referred only as a vaguely promised “pathway” – the exact bad faith language used by the Biden admin. It is not cynical to surmise this “peace plan” serves merely to shape a narrative around Netanyahu’s White House visit – which is assumed by most informed persons as about preparing an illegal war of aggression against Iran. (the Trump team appears to be spending this upcoming week preparing for an illegal war of aggression in Venezuela as well). According to the mainstream media, the White House meeting is all about the new “Gaza peace plan”. The mainstream media is also informing that the brave Moldovans overcame Russian election interference to realize their European aspirations (so many aspirations to pay lip service to!)
Posted by: jayc | Sep 29 2025 17:44 utc | 136
I pay zero attention to anything the colonial Imperialists say. They lack credibility and don’t follow through on their own plans or laws.
I recommend that everyone do likewise.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 29 2025 17:54 utc | 137
Tony Blair will be the new Governor of Gaza. At least Qatar got Bibi to apologize. That’s a win.
Posted by: Muhammed Z. | Sep 29 2025 17:57 utc | 138
Ansar Allah strikes again:
RT on X: “⚡️ Dutch cargo ship HIT by missile near Yemen Houthis reportedly targeted the MV Minervagracht as part of their blockade on Israel-linked shipping Operator says two crew injured, ship SEVERELY damaged https://t.co/HBs77BewOk” / X
How many billions did Biden and Trump blow, wasting perfectly good ordnance with zero result? So much for “Operation Prosperity Retardian!”
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 29 2025 18:29 utc | 139
Who in their right mind – would believe a word that comes out of this war criminals mouth, the only way this truly ends is – if the Zionist are evicted from the lands they illegally occupy, and complete return of the state of Palestine – to its former glory.
“Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said he is open to granting Hamas amnesty if the Palestinian militant group frees the remaining hostages and leaves Gaza. The pledge marks a shift from Netanyahu’s long-held stance that the war can only end with the complete dismantling of Hamas, including its leadership.
In a Fox News interview on Sunday, Netanyahu appeared to confirm leaked details of a peace plan by US President Donald Trump, suggesting the group could be offered immunity. “If Hamas leaders, for example, are escorted out of the country, yeah, if they finish the war, release all the hostages, we’ll let them out,” he said. “All of that, I think, is part of the plan. I’m not going to pre-empt it, because we’re having these discussions right now.”
According to Trump’s plan, reported by the Times of Israel, Hamas leaders would be granted safe passage out of Gaza if the 48 remaining hostages are freed within 48 hours of Israel’s public acceptance. In exchange, Israel would release hundreds of Palestinian prisoners serving life terms, over 1,000 Gazans detained since the war began, and the remains of several hundred Palestinians killed in the conflict.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 29 2025 19:01 utc | 140
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 28 2025 23:45 utc | 68
Idiot, I hail from a very old and decadent family of muslims since few centuries at least, latest in Yuga. What they would call us is bays, begovi, the people who owned lands, shops, and went to be educated abroad, in Evropa.
I chose not to be religious, as it is not logical, I have travelled and lived in different countries, and very touching that Egyptians in my street in Cairo recognized me and called me ‘Yapasha,’, they could recognize me for what I was. Passha.
I am not religious, but believe in the justice about humans and animals.
I am also very intolerant towards idiots without history, like you are.
Posted by: stranger | Sep 29 2025 19:16 utc | 141
This is too bad. The net is getting crazy… Movements of arms in Middle East, since Saturday, emptying from qatar to Erbil, many flights, flights from US to Uk, than to probably MEast, emptying Qatar etc
I believe that very soon the genocidals united with USAins will hit on Iran. I believe it will be with Nukes.
Sorry
Posted by: stranger | Sep 29 2025 19:26 utc | 142
Another genocide enabling b*stard – that should find himself in the dock at the Hague when the dust settles – but we all know he won’t – because Western justice on its own leaders is non-existent.
“President Trump: “World leaders begged me not to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, yet I recognized it I withdrew from the terrible Iranian nuclear deal imposed by Obama and Biden on Israel. We destroyed Iran’s ability to enrich uranium. No American President was better for Israel than me.””
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 29 2025 19:31 utc | 143
I just heard al jazeera reporter in Gaza say part of the deal was the zio-crazies castrating the high value militants before releasing them????
Posted by: drinky crow | Sep 29 2025 19:35 utc | 144
George Galloway’s wife – who was detained along him and his children – was interrogated by police because she had Palestinian flag finger nails.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 29 2025 19:40 utc | 145
DTrump, the Zionist PM and their Arab helpers have proposed a plan of total surrender of Gaza to them, total US/Israel/Europeans control of Gaza and a future Gaza Riviera, albeit not so named in the plan.
DTrump and Tony Blair would be the overseers and the Palestinians would be allowed to stay if they wish.
While not surprising, as it is yet another, somewhat modified, version of “the plan” that has been in the works since DT was elected, and before, it is a monument of colonial and imperial hubris, and totally outrageous.
Hamas and the Palestinian liberation factions can not accept this “plan” even if they wanted to because it completely nullifies their entire heroic struggle and would turn Gaza into an administrative unit of Israel, which, according to the plan, would be recognized by the Arab states and peace would reign forever after.
This colonialist fantasy plan doesn’t deserve five minutes of anybody’s time.
The Resistance front will have to fight until victory and the liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea.
Perhaps volunteer brigades will be formed from all over the world. After the victory many of us who can not fight will come to help, in whatever way possible, to rebuild Gaza and the WB and assist in establishing the state of Palestine. If the Palestinians will have us.
To hell with DT, Tony Blair and all the rest of them. We are better than them and together we can win this.
Posted by: JB | Sep 29 2025 19:43 utc | 146
Good point made below by Arnaud Bertrand.
I don’t think people are realizing what’s happening with the Global Sumud Flotilla: it’s potentially becoming extremely consequential. Fact is, at this stage the flotilla is effectively escorted by multiple warships from 3 major countries: Spain, Italy and Turkyie. The warships are all nominally there to “assist” and “rescue” the flotilla in case shit happens – that’s the official story – BUT: – They obviously have a very strong deterrence effect, so Israel will think twice before attacking – I frankly cannot believe they wouldn’t act if the flotilla gets attacked as this would be a major PR disaster for the governments in questions: your own citizens (including some MPs) getting attacked by Israel in front of your eyes in international waters (or Palestine territorial waters) and you watch it happen from your warship? Hard to see this happen, this is politically suicidal for a government. – Logically speaking, why send actual warships if you haven’t accepted the possibility there might be a confrontation? As the old military adage goes “don’t draw your sword unless you’re prepared to use it”: if it was purely about assistance and rescue, they could have sent coastguard boats for instance. The “rescue and assist” framing is probably about plausible deniability to retain the most flexibility in the actions they can take, and in narrative management. I’m not sure what’s going to happen but as far as I can see there are 3 options: 1) Israel doesn’t attack, the flotilla reaches Gaza, which means the blockade is breached and which is a major precedent 2) Israel attacks and the warships of all 3 nations let it happen, which will create a major public opinion disaster 3) Israel attacks and the warships fight them, and you effectively have war between NATO countries and Israel I think you’ll agree that whatever happens, it’s consequential no matter what. What I suspect is that the governments in question are betting on Israel blinking first but that they’re willing to follow through if Israel calls their bluff, they wouldn’t have deployed the warships otherwise.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 29 2025 19:45 utc | 147
They landed at and English RAF base – never trust Perfidious Albion.
“More then 8 US aerial tankers departed the US towards Europe, with most already arriving in the UK. The last time this happened was when Israel and the US attacked Iran.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 29 2025 19:48 utc | 148
Re my (149) comment.
Iran might have an inkling of what’s coming.
“Iran’s urgent message to the U.S. and Israel: “If the American-Israeli assault on Iran resumes, massive waves of missiles will be launched at all Israeli infrastructure targets. Israel will be leveled within 48 hours. There will be no ceasefire from our side. The coming war will continue until the end — this war will mark the decisive stage.””
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 29 2025 19:49 utc | 149
Netanyahu covertly showing us – that he has Trump in his back pocket – something most of us already knew.
Nassim Nicholas Taleb (@nntaleb): “All rumors are false until officially denied.” | nitter.poast.org
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 29 2025 19:54 utc | 150
@147,
To think that those Arab lackeys assisted with this plan, incredible. Completely subservient to their masters. I don’t think Hamas can achieve more though. That fight “until victory” sounds good if the rest of Gaza wasn’t starving to death without any sort of international pressure to actually get something done.
From a moral standpoint, yes .. Hamas should fight until the end. But that would mean the total wipe of the rest of Gaza building by building. They will bleed Israel further, but at the cost of losing. Sadly, there is “no cavalry” coming for Gaza and its people. But I agree, the alternative is equally horrific. Disarm and at the mercy of a demented man like Trump and Netanyahu to keep their word. Not to mention those rumors about Tony Blair as “Guvernor” of Technocratic Gaza.
Stuck with 2 bad options because the Arab world is completely sold. They probably will go again against Iran as some here already commented.
Posted by: JamesBond | Sep 29 2025 19:55 utc | 151
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 29 2025 19:45 utc | 148
Israel could bomb and destroy the ships once they reach the shore/harbor in Gaza. That’s what they will most likely do. They will even kill the participants, and the shill media will cover it up like the rest of the 400k genocide in Gaza.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 29 2025 19:59 utc | 152
The Zionists forced through the earlier banning of TikTok in the States – because it was the number one platform on telling the truth about the Zionists. TikTok in the States, would eventually be bought up by a Zionist in the States.
GenXGirl (@GenXGirl1994): “Did You Know Zionists Were Behind the TikTok CCP Narrative 1) Oct-Dec 2023, TikTok was top app for Israel truth 2) Dec 2023, Zionist tech investor Anthony Goldbloom commissioned NCRI (Israeli funded/managed NGO) to produce a report claiming China’s CCP controls TikTok. After the report was complete, Goldbloom wrote an article in Time Magazine making the case that TikTok should be banned because of the CCP. The evidence he cited was the bogus report he paid NCRI to produce. Congress introduced a bill but failed to ban TikTok & the scheme failed. 3) Mar 2024, Israel lobby exerted its full pressure on Congress & 30 days later…Congress banned TikTok” | nitter.poast.org
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 29 2025 20:02 utc | 153
@137 jayc
The ‘peace plan’ frames Hamas as responsible for not halting the assault on Gaza…if it does not agree.
This is from Sohaib Al-Masalmah (and he is not asserting Hamas responsibility as might appear, but is explaining what is being projected onto Hamas)
– “Hamas’s failure to agree will give Netanyahu a public international, Arab, and American green light to continue the war, giving Israel enough time to occupy what remains of the Gaza Strip. Holding Hamas solely responsible for the bloodshed and massacres in Gaza because it rejected the offer.”
– “Trump has placed Hamas in an unenviable position.
Accepting the proposal would mean the end of Hamas’s political and military role, leaving Gaza with an uncertain fate.
Failure to accept the proposal would mean Hamas alone bears responsibility for the destruction, displacement, hunger, and bloodshed in Gaza, as well as the loss of international voices demanding an end to the war and the return of international and Arab legitimacy to Netanyahu so he can continue his annihilation of stones, people, and trees in Gaza.”
So the US visit might have had other purposes also, but one of the reasons was definitely to try to shift responsibility onto Hamas for the continuing “Israeli” atrocity.
Currently it is:
Plan on table with ‘backing of US assurances’ and so ‘only Hamas is stopping peace’ .
(It is understood those assurances are lacking or untrustworthy)
Meaning until Hamas answers, the continuing atrocity is ‘covered’ by the ‘offer’.
If Hamas refuses the fuller humiliation of Palestinians, i.e. asking them to accept “Israel” and co. as having reason for invading and slaughtering civilians etc. then the US would likely wash its hands and leave “Israel” to try to fully destroy Gaza and take west bank also (while continuing to support it doing so).
So the whole setup is completely hypocritical, but the meeting was also an important part of whatever strategy for ‘presenting a serious face’ to western or world audiences that allows whatever direction to continue.
Posted by: Ornot | Sep 29 2025 20:06 utc | 154
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/everybody-wants-deal-trump-presses-netanyahu-gaza-peace-4th-wh-visit#comment-stream
Its funny how Western press pigs are shocked about the “deradicalization of Ukraine”, but when US does it .. crickets.
Posted by: JamesBond | Sep 29 2025 20:11 utc | 155
They die every day:
Breaking | Preliminary details about the difficult event happening in the Gaza Strip
The attack in Gaza City targeted two armored carriers, a tank, and a bulldozer
The first missile targeted the carrier, causing it to explode with all the soldiers inside
Several soldiers were killed and more than 8 others were injured, most of them seriously
Several soldiers suffered amputations in the foot area from the security incident
A fourth military helicopter evacuates soldiers from the compound ambush site in the Gaza Strip to Soroka Hospital
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 29 2025 20:32 utc | 156
Tony Blair will be the new Governor of Gaza. At least Qatar got Bibi to apologize. That’s a win.
Posted by: Muhammed Z. | Sep 29 2025 17:57 utc | 139
This is a win:
Scenes showing a fire igniting in a tank belonging to the occupation army in Gaza City, following its targeting by the Palestinian resistance
The event has been defined as a multiple and large-scale incident – Israeli media
I call it a Gaza Kebab 🥙
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 29 2025 20:37 utc | 157
At the end of a thousand years of defeated crusades, behold the one truly virtuous crusade the white man has launched:
The Israeli regime has escalated threats against the Global Sumud Flotilla (GSF), warning of potential military action and seizure as dozens of aid boats approach Gaza, aiming to challenge Israel’s 19-year blockade.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 29 2025 20:39 utc | 158
“Whole Israeli platoon gone. Full analysis.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 29 2025 14:38 utc | 123
I salute the Palestinian space program.
Put more Jews on the moon!
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 29 2025 20:43 utc | 159
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 29 2025 20:02 utc | 154RE: TikTok-for-the-U.S.<>Word is, the U.S. plans to retrain the TikTok/U.S. algorithm in order to cant it toward pro-Zionist messaging.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 29 2025 20:46 utc | 160
Posted by: stranger | Sep 29 2025 19:16 utc | 142#######If one doesn’t fear Allah SWT or follow the Prophet SAW, then they are not a Muslim.In your case, it sounds like you’re just another Egyptian hypocrite. Weak and degenerate.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 29 2025 20:49 utc | 161
“don’t draw your sword unless you’re prepared to use it” @ Republicofscotland | Sep 29 2025 19:45 utc | 148
Thanks for astute observations on the flotilla.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Sep 29 2025 20:50 utc | 162
- Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 29 2025 20:02 utc | 154
- RE: TikoTok-for-the-U.S.
- <<
- Word is, the U.S. plans to retrain the TikTok algorithm in order to cant it toward pro-Zionist messaging.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 29 2025 20:53 utc | 163
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Sep 29 2025 15:05 utc | 129
Israel Shamir has been around a very long time. I first started visiting his website when I surfed the net.
His old website:
https://www.israelshamir.com/
Posted by: Menz | Sep 29 2025 21:01 utc | 164
Word is, the U.S. plans to retrain the TikTok algorithm in order to cant it toward pro-Zionist messaging.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 29 2025 20:53 utc | 164
The problem with this is that Jews, specifically Zionists are such an unhinged bunch they’ll end up exposing themselves as the sick society they are – faster with TikTok.
These fools will happily promote cheery little clips discussing how Jews believe Arab children should be killed to prevent them growing in to terrorists.
Since Judaism (talmudism) has moral code compatible with any contemporary civilization the Jews will not even be aware how disgusting they look on KikeTok.
If the intent is to saturate the media with the more mundane aspects of Jewish ‘culture’, they’ll find no real audience – the Jews, particularly israelis offer a bland, shallow and overall unappealing cultural experience to the world.
Everyone will move directly to Xiaohongshu (Rednote), which is China hosted and based and which western audiences are already moving to, and TikTok will end up an empty shell hosting mitzvahs and idf amputee clips.
This is going to backfire spectacularly.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 29 2025 21:10 utc | 165
Since Judaism (talmudism) has NO moral code compatible with any contemporary civilization
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 29 2025 21:10 utc | 166
Correction. The new interface is uglier than the old.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 29 2025 21:12 utc | 166
The Orange One’s peace plan for Gaza:
A regime run by affluent foreigners with Palestinian Lackey Executives under them.
Posted by: Menz | Sep 29 2025 21:13 utc | 167
Posted by: stranger | Sep 29 2025 19:16 utc | Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 29 2025 20:49 utc | 162
Peace brothers. We share a common cause.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 29 2025 21:18 utc | 168
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 29 2025 20:53 utc | 164
The deal would create a new U.S.-only version of the app, bringing it into compliance with a law signed by former President Joe Biden on April 23, 2024, and upheld by the Supreme Court on Jan. 17, 2025. Specifics of the deal remain to be hammered out, but some details are emerging. These include what will happen to the video-sharing app’s core algorithm – and what that means for TikTok’s millions of U.S. users.
The Chinese government has indicated it will not permit ByteDance to sell the algorithm, because it is classified as a controlled technology export, per Chinese law. Meanwhile, U.S. tech industry executives and some lawmakers say compliance with the law requires the algorithm to be under American control. The deal as proposed includes licensing the algorithm so that it remains Chinese intellectual property while the U.S. version of the app continues to use the technology.
TikTok’s For You Page algorithm is widely considered the most important part of the app. As one analyst put it: “Buying TikTok without the algorithm would be like buying a Ferrari without the engine.”
The algorithm’s value lies in its uncanny capacity to anticipate users’ content preferences. Many users claim it knows them better than they know themselves — a sentiment that has evolved into a curious mix of spiritual belief and conspiracy theorizing, as my colleagues and I have documented. Other scholars have similarly noted that users feel more intimately seen and known by TikTok’s algorithm than those powering other popular platforms.
More…
https://theconversation.com/tiktok-sale-puts-apps-algorithm-in-the-spotlight-a-social-media-expert-explains-how-the-for-you-page-works-and-what-changes-are-in-store-265658
Posted by: Menz | Sep 29 2025 21:24 utc | 169
Tanks, refueling planes and men heading to the ME. Tuesday big meeting with generals and admirals over 800 to attend to hear crusader fm Segseth.
I hope they all walk out.
Posted by: dobby | Sep 29 2025 21:29 utc | 170
DROP SITE
JUST IN | New statement from Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the second-largest resistance faction:
Secretary-General of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad Movement, Mujahid Leader Ziyad al-Nakhalah:
“What was announced at the press conference between Trump and Netanyahu is an American-Israeli agreement, an expression of Israel’s entire position, and a recipe for continued aggression against the Palestinian people.
Thus, Israel is trying to impose, through the United States, what it has been unable to achieve through war. Therefore, we consider the American-Israeli announcement a recipe for igniting the region.”
Monday, 7 Rabi’ al-Thani 1447 AH, September 29, 2025 AD
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1972765853813989850
Posted by: Menz | Sep 29 2025 21:30 utc | 171
This is the released text of Trump’s “peace plan”. No arms, no Hamas, unelected leaders (including Trump and Blair) running the Gaza Strip. Still building techno parks where the Palestinian slaves can stay and work and be so very happy if they decide not to leave of their own accord. Palestinian Authority will undergo a reform program and eventually be allowed to help run the day to day civic duties of the Strip. Eventually, the Palestinians might be allowed to discuss becoming an independent state, but it depends on if Israel likes what it sees.
Palestine will never be allowed weapons. Hamas and other factions will never hold public office in Gaza.
Trump will spearhead the “economic developement plan”; presumably, the Palestinians and the neighboring Arab countries will kiss his ass forever.
Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza. It will gradually hand over the Gaza Strip to the PA and “approved police groups” and not re-occupy or annex as long as the Palestinians remain in accordance with all the conditions. NOTE: There is no mention that Israel will not occupy or annex the West Bank, although, of course, the West Bank is part of Palestine.
Here is the text. Sorry for the length, but you really need to see the whole thing. This is not an offer for peace – it is an order to completely copitulate. What kind of free country is not allowed to govern itself or bear arms FOREVER? And no matter the provocation, agree to never be a “threat” – determined by the other side – to the country that still has weapons trained at it?
The White House has unveiled a 20-point proposal it says could bring an immediate halt to Israel’s war on Gaza, which has killed more than 66,000 Palestinians and left the Palestinian enclave in ruins.
If the plan is accepted by both sides, the war is to end immediately with all captives held in Gaza alive and dead returned within 72 hours and Palestinian prisoners released. The Gaza Strip is to be temporarily governed by a Palestinian technocratic government with no role for Hamas, and Israel will not annex Gaza.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has accepted Trump’s plans, but Hamas official Mahmoud Mardawi told Al Jazeera that the group has not yet received Trump’s written Gaza peace plan.
Trump’s 20-point plan to end Israel’s genocide in Gaza, published in full:
- Gaza will be a deradicalised terror-free zone that does not pose a threat to its neighbours.
- Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough.
- If both sides agree to this proposal, the war will immediately end. Israeli forces will withdraw to the agreed upon line to prepare for a hostage release. During this time, all military operations, including aerial and artillery bombardment, will be suspended, and battle lines will remain frozen until conditions are met for the complete staged withdrawal.
- Within 72 hours of Israel publicly accepting this agreement, all hostages, alive and deceased, will be returned.
- Once all hostages are released, Israel will release 250 life sentence prisoners plus 1,700 Gazans who were detained after October 7th 2023, including all women and children detained in that context. For every Israeli hostage whose remains are released, Israel will release the remains of 15 deceased Gazans.
- Once all hostages are returned, Hamas members who commit to peaceful co-existence and to decommission their weapons will be given amnesty. Members of Hamas who wish to leave Gaza will be provided safe passage to receiving countries.
- Upon acceptance of this agreement, full aid will be immediately sent into the Gaza Strip. At a minimum, aid quantities will be consistent with what was included in the January 19, 2025, agreement regarding humanitarian aid, including rehabilitation of infrastructure (water, electricity, sewage), rehabilitation of hospitals and bakeries, and entry of necessary equipment to remove rubble and open roads.
- •Entry of distribution and aid in the Gaza Strip will proceed without interference from the two parties through the United Nations and its agencies, and the Red Crescent, in addition to other international institutions not associated in any manner with either party. Opening the Rafah crossing in both directions will be subject to the same mechanism implemented under the January 19, 2025, agreement.
- Gaza will be governed under the temporary transitional governance of a technocratic, apolitical Palestinian committee, responsible for delivering the day-to-day running of public services and municipalities for the people in Gaza. This committee will be made up of qualified Palestinians and international experts, with oversight and supervision by a new international transitional body, the “Board of Peace,” which will be headed and chaired by President Donald J Trump, with other members and heads of State to be announced, including Former Prime Minister Tony Blair. This body will set the framework and handle the funding for the redevelopment of Gaza until such time as the Palestinian Authority has completed its reform program, as outlined in various proposals, including President Trump’s peace plan in 2020 and the Saudi-French proposal, and can securely and effectively take back control of Gaza. This body will call on best international standards to create modern and efficient governance that serves the people of Gaza and is conducive to attracting investment.
- •A Trump economic development plan to rebuild and energize Gaza will be created by convening a panel of experts who have helped birth some of the thriving modern miracle cities in the Middle East. Many thoughtful investment proposals and exciting development ideas have been crafted by well-meaning international groups, and will be considered to synthesize the security and governance frameworks to attract and facilitate these investments that will create jobs, opportunity, and hope for future Gaza.
- A special economic zone will be established with preferred tariff and access rates to be negotiated with participating countries.
- No one will be forced to leave Gaza, and those who wish to leave will be free to do so and free to return. We will encourage people to stay and offer them the opportunity to build a better Gaza.
- Hamas and other factions agree to not have any role in the governance of Gaza, directly, indirectly, or in any form. All military, terror, and offensive infrastructure, including tunnels and weapon production facilities, will be destroyed and not rebuilt. There will be a process of demilitarization of Gaza under the supervision of independent monitors, which will include placing weapons permanently beyond use through an agreed process of decommissioning, and supported by an internationally funded buy back and reintegration program all verified by the independent monitors. New Gaza will be fully committed to building a prosperous economy and to peaceful coexistence with their neighbors.
- A guarantee will be provided by regional partners to ensure that Hamas, and the factions, comply with their obligations and that New Gaza poses no threat to its neighbors or its people.
- The United States will work with Arab and international partners to develop a temporary International Stabilization Force (ISF) to immediately deploy in Gaza. The ISF will train and provide support to vetted Palestinian police forces in Gaza, and will consult with Jordan and Egypt who have extensive experience in this field. This force will be the long-term internal security solution. The ISF will work with Israel and Egypt to help secure border areas, along with newly trained Palestinian police forces. It is critical to prevent munitions from entering Gaza and to facilitate the rapid and secure flow of goods to rebuild and revitalize Gaza. A deconfliction mechanism will be agreed upon by the parties.
- Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza. As the ISF establishes control and stability, the [Israeli military] will withdraw based on standards, milestones, and timeframes linked to demilitarization that will be agreed upon between the [Israeli military], ISF, the guarantors, and the Unites States, with the objective of a secure Gaza that no longer poses a threat to Israel, Egypt, or its citizens. Practically, the [Israeli military] will progressively hand over the Gaza territory it occupies to the ISF according to an agreement they will make with the transitional authority until they are withdrawn completely from Gaza, save for a security perimeter presence that will remain until Gaza is properly secure from any resurgent terror threat.
- In the event Hamas delays or rejects this proposal, the above, including the scaled-up aid operation, will proceed in the terror-free areas handed over from the [Israeli military] to the ISF.
- An interfaith dialogue process will be established based on the values of tolerance and peaceful co-existence to try and change mindsets and narratives of Palestinians and Israelis by emphasizing the benefits that can be derived from peace.
- While Gaza re-development advances and when the PA reform program is faithfully carried out, the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood, which we recognize as the aspiration of the Palestinian people.
- The United States will establish a dialogue between Israel and the Palestinians to agree on a political horizon for peaceful and prosperous co-existence.
Posted by: teri | Sep 29 2025 21:33 utc | 172
Shaiel Ben-Ephraim.
Israel will not stop at Gaza. Likud Knesset member Nissim Vatiri says: “The Israeli interest is that there be no Arabs at all in the West Bank. If we could deport them all – we would.” The West Bank is next.
https://x.com/academic_la/status/1972403346784084199
Posted by: Menz | Sep 29 2025 21:37 utc | 173
LOL. Somewhere up there in my own writing is the word “copitulate”. I meant “capitulate”. No idea what that other word (which is not a word) might mean, but please spare me the speculations about it.
Posted by: teri | Sep 29 2025 21:39 utc | 174
Posted by: teri | Sep 29 2025 21:39 utc | 174
“copitulate” is perfect.
That’s exactly what it would mean: “To bend over and get fucked”
(copulate + capitulate)
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 29 2025 21:41 utc | 175
Even if a quarter or an eighth walk out of that military meeting will show a message. Maybe my hope is too strong but I hope.
Posted by: dobby | Sep 29 2025 21:42 utc | 176
@ Arch # 175. – That is so funny – I was going to suggest the exact same thing and decided I should be more dainty or something. First time I’ve laughed aloud in weeks!
Posted by: teri | Sep 29 2025 21:45 utc | 177
Posted by: teri | Sep 29 2025 21:33 utc | 172
Encircled by a permanent “buffer zone”making The Gaza a smaller total area. How long will the Israeli military remain? Gaza will remain occupied for decades, much worse than previously.
Posted by: Menz | Sep 29 2025 21:46 utc | 178
As countries around the world recognize a Palestinian state
Posted by: Menz | Sep 29 2025 6:40 utc | 92What difference does it make if they recognize or not? This is a simple trick for their own populations to stay calm. . . .
Posted by: rk | Sep 29 2025 12:36 utc | 114
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Yes. “Two-state-solution” thinking leads directly to the Blair Trump Gaza Riviera horror.
Laith Marouf explains this very clearly in his interview with I think Nima Alkhorshid about a week ago. “Two-state solution” and genuine sovereign Palestinian state are mutually exclusive ideas.
Two-state solution is Oslo Redux.
Posted by: Jane | Sep 29 2025 21:47 utc | 179
George Galloway’s wife – who was detained along him and his children – was interrogated by police because she had Palestinian flag finger nails.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 29 2025 19:40 utc | 146
I love how 7 October 2023 tore the entire filthy facade off the face of the Western ‘Democracy and Freedom’ narrative.
It always was, always will be, a Gestapo Empire.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 29 2025 21:50 utc | 180
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 29 2025 17:54 utc | 138
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Wow, incredibly original observation and advice that we really all needed. Pomposity Award for the thread.
Posted by: Jane | Sep 29 2025 21:52 utc | 181
1933 NSDAP did the same thing with its military leaders after the coup. (yes it was a coup) To swear allegiance to the state and especially to the Furor who worked secretly and in the open to the Zionist cause. The same thing is happening in 2025, they are going to route out the dissenters opposed to their war plans. That’s why the big meeting and big military grouping headed to the ME. Are we going to see another ‘The night of the long knives’?
History always repeats.
Posted by: dobby | Sep 29 2025 21:53 utc | 182
Italian dockworkers vow to “shut down all of Europe” if the Global Sumud Flotilla is intercepted or attacked.
They met in Genoa to plan action
Video (2:56)
https://x.com/GlobalSumudF/status/1972116404523749482
Posted by: Menz | Sep 29 2025 21:59 utc | 183
see the photos at the first/second link
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https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1957947411483226389
Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt @FranceskAlbs
Calling every Palestinian in Gaza “Hamas” has normalized every killing, rape, torture and act of destruction. Forgive us, Marwa, Motaz, Montaser,& the dozens of thousands already lost -along with the millions still trapped in this genocide- for being so late, slow, and complicit.
https://x.com/MosabAbuToha/status/1957247885105340449
Mosab Abu Toha @MosabAbuToha
Marwa, Motaz, and Montaser Musallam.Three siblings who were killed in their house, remained under the rubble for 44 days. When they were retrieved, they were bones.
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https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1728468596441919791
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
In my 35 years of covering wars, I have never seen criminals like the Israelis boasting about their crimes, bragging about them on social media and not being held accountable by nations worldwide, especially here in Europe, that pretend there are laws.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 29 2025 22:00 utc | 184
Heart warming:
Footage captures Gazan civil defense crew rescuing a nine-month pregnant Palestinian woman from under the rubble of her home, west of Gaza City yesterday, after Israeli bombardment.
Video (1:21)
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1972050060117753898
Posted by: Menz | Sep 29 2025 22:01 utc | 185
@ Mentz @ 178
The whole “new peace plan” is just a mish-mash of the worst ideas from all the previous dozen or so iterations. There’s not even a pretense that Israel and the US had an original idea to add to the potpourri at this point.
Posted by: teri | Sep 29 2025 22:02 utc | 186
In my 35 years of covering wars, I have never seen criminals like the Israelis boasting about their crimes, bragging about them on social media and not being held accountable by nations worldwide, especially here in Europe, that pretend there are laws.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 29 2025 22:00 utc | 184
You were not born yet when the NSDAP came to power
Posted by: dobby | Sep 29 2025 22:06 utc | 187
The Zionist always used they’re paid minions to succeed. After WW2 especially in the 1970’s they came about the 6 million number to further brainwash the duped public in Hollywood movies into believing they were the innocents. Further documentation no one looks at are the real numbers, under a million from the red cross. Stalin himself said to Truman at Malta that 4.5 million Russians died but that number is now inflated to 25-50 million. I am not denying human suffering under the NSDAP regime what I am denying are the numbers. These Zionists are not stupid and are not smart but clever, they know how to propagate, pay off and now they are after USA social media influencers.
I have seen so many Charlie Kirk theories, one thing I know he is out of the picture for Zionist progression.
Posted by: dobby | Sep 29 2025 22:24 utc | 188
That statement done by those Muslim countries show exactly what to expect from them. Even that snake Erdogan kissed Trumps ass. I was a bit disappointed that even Indonesia appeared there. So much for praising “the resistance”. Nowhere in that plan does it even say when Palestine can really become a full fledge independent country.
Posted by: JamesBond | Sep 29 2025 22:36 utc | 189
“I read somewhere that if you repeat a lie enough times, it becomes israel.”
https://x.com/mehdirhasan/status/1972507140678967404
Mehdi Hasan @mehdirhasan
“Israeli Forces Kill 198 Palestinians in Gaza Over Three Days”
It’s a genocide. Daily endless massacres, largely ignored in the West.
https://news.antiwar.com/2025/09/28/israeli-forces-kill-198-palestinians-in-gaza-over-three-days/
Israeli Forces Kill 198 Palestinians in Gaza Over Three DaysThe IDF continues its destruction campaign in Gaza City and bombing other parts of Gazaby Dave DeCamp | September 28, 2025 at 2:37 pm ET | Gaza, Israel
Israeli attacks have killed at least 198 Palestinians and wounded 786 in the Gaza Strip over 72 hours, according to death toll updates released by Gaza’s Health Ministry, as Israel continues its US-backed genocidal war despite growing global outrage.
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https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1972707703324811315
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
Benjamin Netanyahu apologised to the Emir of Qatar for bombing Doha and killing a Qatari officer, following US President Donald Trump’s request.
This is significant because it means 1. Hamas is safe in Qatar, and Israel won’t bomb them or assassinate them in Doha. 2. Qatar can act as a mediator. 3. Netanyahu, the arrogant and narcissistic, acknowledged a mistake and recognised it; therefore, he will be harshly criticised domestically.4. Netanyahu gave Trump a concession in one hand and will take from the other a forgiveness to sabotage the 21 points suggested by the US president to end the war.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 29 2025 22:44 utc | 190
Laith Marouf explains this very clearly in his interview with I think Nima Alkhorshid about a week ago. . . .
Posted by: Jane | Sep 29 2025 21:47 utc | 179
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Sorry, that interview was with Garland Nixon.
Posted by: Jane | Sep 29 2025 22:50 utc | 191
You were not born yet when the NSDAP came to power
Posted by: dobby | Sep 29 2025 22:06 utc | 187
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And you were?
Posted by: Jane | Sep 29 2025 22:55 utc | 192
“copitulate” is perfect. That’s exactly what it would mean: “To bend over and get fucked” (copulate + capitulate)
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 29 2025 21:41 utc |
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Nah, Copulation has nuttin’ to do with it.
copitulate is combo of cop out and capitulate.
Posted by: Jane | Sep 29 2025 22:59 utc | 193
And you were?
Posted by: Jane | Sep 29 2025 22:55 utc | 192
No, I’m a revisionist historian that knows the truth. The truth hurts, aye’ Jane,
Posted by: dobby | Sep 29 2025 23:03 utc | 194
Journalist Youssef Fares
“Trump’s proposed plan is the deserved price of defeat , and despite its evil and injustice, stopping the nightmare of displacement and eternal crushing of us as a nation and a people, stopping the massacre and saving what remains of the people’s dignity and lives, is more important than continuing to commit suicide endlessly. I say this with a heart that is torn and a soul that bleeds to what we have reached.. We have broken ourselves and they have broken us.. Stop the genocide and that is enough
Journalist Yousef FaresOccupied Palestine – Gaza Strip”
Polemical, however it is not for us sat on the outside to say either. A lot of uncertainty @DavidGH, fault lines getting emphasised because of. Noticed pro-US hitting on that Hamas leadership not seen since Qatar, alleging assassinated. Silence regarding Abu Obeida. Flottila might be welcomed ashore by entity troops, then arrested as another example (entity are 1km from coastline) .
A dark time.
Posted by: Ornot | Sep 29 2025 23:29 utc | 195
Palestine. The Arab world is well and truly divided and conquered. The Palestinians have no big brother. Until the US goes down, they are f..cked.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 29 2025 23:30 utc | 196
I agree with Palestinian Jihad’s analysis. There’re zero grounds to trust Zionists or the Zionist Trump. It’s no “peace deal’ but it is a surrender pact. Although it would be impossible to do, a referendum on the matter would provide the best answer, but that would require peace first, which is not what the Zionists want.
I don’t think the published 21 point Peace plan is exactly what is in the works, or agreed with either USReal or Arab nations.
https://tass.com/world/2022997
MIDDLE EAST CONFLICT
29 SEP, 17:27
- Egypt, Jordan, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Turkey welcome Trump’s plan for Gaza
“The foreign ministers pointed to their “joint commitment to work with the United States to end the war in Gaza through a comprehensive deal” that would ensure the unimpeded delivery of sufficient humanitarian aid to the enclave, guarantee “no displacement of the Palestinians, the release of hostages,” provide “a security mechanism that guarantees the security of all sides, full Israeli withdrawal, rebuilds Gaza and creates a path for a just peace on the basis of the two state solution.”
Mostly similar.
Looks like a betrayal after Nutty talk, 21 peace plan I mean.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 30 2025 0:46 utc | 198
When the evil Psychopathic Perpetrator becomes the innocent Victim you get Israel and the United States. This too shall pass.
In any event, still believing Gaza Flotilla will pop the ground swell like a cork out of champagne bottle.
All the plans, plots, machinations and twisted ideas about Gaza, will be swept away.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 30 2025 0:54 utc | 200