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September 24, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-223
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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“Is China Failing Palestine? K.J. Noh and Carl Zha Respond to Criticism” on India & Global Left one or two days ago. An often debated question on MOA such that some may say it’s ‘beating an (un)dead horse,’ but in this discussion conducted by Joytishman Mudiar, the Chinese analyst Noh (inadvertently imo) creates a contradiction on the question of the UN’s role. First Mudiar points to some positive evidence for China, for one thing that the country has reduced its investment over time in Israel from about $12 billion in 2017-2018 to $2-3 billion in the most recent decade (this is not the $14.3 billion that China trades to Israel and the $8.4 billion it buys from Israel today.) Noh begins his very detailed argument by reiterating the crimes that are being inflicted on Palestine, “so clearly this is a complete and total genocide and under those situations we can argue that nobody is doing enough because this is something that cannot and should not be tolerated.” It’s a US, a Western imperial genocide , how do we stop it isn’t easy because it’s been a stream of genocides. So we have to ask do we really care about the Palestinians or are we just trying to diffuse and deter blame. For an individual country of the Global South to impose sanctions, it would not solve the problem (preceeding is paraphrased). Nor alludes to the continuing use of veto by US in UN. There is the question of WWIII which US is trying to start with China. It’s up to the citizens of those Western countries to confront — we have to tread very carefully; it would be the last war. This is a very brief summary of an argument we’ve all heard before and does not capture the extensive informative history and detail of Noh’s full discussion, which covers the situation of China’s Asian neighbors, particularly Myanmar. Carl Zha clarifies briefly and to the point: China never had any intention or desire to confront the US. China has always wanted to operate within the existing world situation as it is (status quo) and would not consider, for example, sending any peacekeeping force to Palestine that was not authorized by the UN. It is true that in the Mao era, China supported Palestine’s armed resistance, but that is no longer in the present situation. Why not clear imo. So …during his discourse Noh said the following about the West and the UN: As the US loses land territorial influence in Asia, a large problem is that it increases control of the seas there. “The original conception of the UN Convention of the Law of the Sea, which was to preserve the ocean as a global commons for everybody — that was completely undermined. Western colonial powers have used the UN clause to create vast swaths of …ocean naval passages and naval strategic points. (They) increased the …Exclusive Economic Zone to 200 Kms. that ensured the poorer landlocked states would have overlapping claims, and that they would run into conflict with each other (allowing for involvement in Asia of Western powers), we see most notably in the South China Seas. (Thus, outcomes of applicable UN rulings) ensures that poorer countries will be in conflict over conflicting ocean territorial claims.” Noh’s discussion of the issue of the UN Convention of the Law of the Sea is so instructive for the reader to get an idea of the problems the Asian countries face with Western imperialism. Posted by: Lavieja | Sep 24 2025 9:40 utc | 1 This is an interesting topic of discussion. In my cynical view, ultimately China and Russia are not taking any concrete action to help the Palestinians because everybody in the world thinks that Israel is committing genocide and many barbaric atrocities with the full support of the U.S.A. So if Israel exterminates 1 or 2 million people and annexes all the Palestinian land it wants in full view of all people in the world through their screens, the costs will be paid by the U.S.A. as well as Israel. So them both Chinese and Russians have an incentive to let this crime against humanity go to its ultimate conclusion. In addition, the Russians have further incentives as they are in a war of extermination themselves (euphemistically called demilitarization), not of course a genocide, but the extermination of all males of military age in the Ukraines, a process that needs a long time. Some Europeans governments on the other hand, have a strong incentive to end the genocide of Palestinians by the Jews of Israel, because any military force seen stopping the Jews will give its government a big boost in popularity and almost certain re-election. Unfortunately, all European governments are abject vassals of the U.S.A. so they cannot act as they would want and have to content themselves with weak diplomatic gestures just to avoid more erosion of their very depressed popularity. So it seems to me, the genocide of Palestinians by the Jews of Israel will continue to its conclusion: the extermination of 1 to 2 million Palestinians and the annexation of Gaza (and other lands) to Israel. The costs I mentioned earlier will be paid by the U.S.A. and Israel after the genocide and annexation are concluded. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 24 2025 10:12 utc | 3 From The River To The Sea YoHoHo hasbaRats! First attempt on new site let’s see if it works, even if it says the site is insecure and will try and steal my details… I say, hell that’s what the Ziofascists do every minute of everyday anyway! And they are PROUD of that cause all the tech belongs to THEM! So HasbaRats how many of you moved out from your illegal squatter entity ? ‘Evgeni Sova, member of the Israel Knesset: 🔹”According to surveys conducted among Jewish communities in many countries, Jews around the world no longer consider Israel their country and home and do not choose to live here! 🔹Jews around the world are no longer willing to immigrate to Israel and, on the contrary, are leaving the country!” Sep 22, 2025 · 8:33 PM UTC ‘ Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 24 2025 10:18 utc | 4 European leaders “recognizing Palestine” is just a PR stunt for internal consumption in countries with large Muslim minorities. It don’t cost much as it’s “paying with words” and the “Palestinian state” officially recognized is the actual form of the old PLO … Neither the less, it’s a “good” decision for bad motives. Posted by: Lavieja | Sep 24 2025 9:40 utc | 1 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 24 2025 10:12 utc | 3 To resume it simply, the US and it’s Vassals-Allied-Proxies (Delete the unnecessary mention) are engaged in different tactics of the same strategy applied globally : containment. It’s stupidly violent and costly : why should the rest of the world try to stop them ? Posted by: Savonarole | Sep 24 2025 11:31 utc | 5 Just a fedback on the pretty much successful move of the website:
Posted by: Chrissie | Sep 24 2025 11:44 utc | 6 Wow! Advancing in leaps and bounds by the hour, b. Congratulations. It is basically working OK for me now. One formatting hiccup: all comments are indented; also commented blockquotes are indented even further by an excessive amount. On a smartphone, that means all comment text has excessively short lines, and blocktext even more so. Do make sure you get enough rest, b! I am guessing you have probably been working flat-out to get it up and running so quickly, and no doubt there is still much to iron out, but I hope you won’t neglect your body’s need for adequate rest and recuperation! Perfect can wait! And news articles can also wait! Posted by: BM | Sep 24 2025 12:44 utc | 7 Way to go, B. That’s an impressive bit of work you’ve done in such a short time. It’s good enough now for you to take the foot off the gas, and layer in the mods, appearance, etc. Core functionality is up. Thanks again for all you’re doing, B. Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Sep 24 2025 13:23 utc | 8 Posted by: Lavieja | Sep 24 2025 9:40 utc | 1 People need to realise that to stop the genocide you either stop them by 1) physical force or 2) convince Israelis and their western backers to stop genociding. Everything else is fluff if it does not fall into those two categories. China and Russia worked on 1) by supporting Syria and Iran, who provided the armaments and technologies to the fighters on the front. But that failed when the fall of Syria cut off the supply lines. Now that 2) is the only option remaining, people should stop self sabotaging and recognise that, however imperfect, the UN two state solution is only one Israel and their western backers might be WILLING to accept. If that does not get off the ground, genocide will just continue until Palestinian numbers gets thinned out enough for the native american treatment. Posted by: Jules | Sep 24 2025 13:45 utc | 10 One action people can take is take photos of Genociders on vacation and send with location, date, etc to Hind Foundation. Hind Foundation has a database of thousands of war criminals. They‘ll match the faces to their database and get their lawyers on the case PDQ. Fellow Barfly Stranger has successfully done this. Posted by: Exile | Sep 24 2025 14:52 utc | 11 Link to Hind Rajab Foundation https://www.hindrajabfoundation.org/ Posted by: Exile | Sep 24 2025 14:55 utc | 12 First – huge THANKS to ‘b’ for the fantastically smooth transfer to the new site. It was a relief this morning to come the the new bar which looks just like the old one. Second – to all doomsayers about the “final solution” made by Israel with the resulting “American Indian” outcome – I say, this will not happen. History does not repeat itself – some unexpected events will happen, must happen, and the nightmare will stop. Posted by: fanto | Sep 24 2025 15:00 utc | 13 Congrats b – looks great! This too… Barclays Bank Pulls Out of Financing Israel’s Genocide Who pulls the plug on a nation’s credit? https://johnhelmer.net/barclays-bank-pulls-out-of-financing-israels-genocide/ “For decades, Barclays Capital has been a pillar of the City of London’s support for Israeli government debt as one of the twelve primary dealers whose role is to finance the debts of the Israeli state and funnel international capital to Tel Aviv. No longer.” Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2025 15:04 utc | 14 In other words, you’ll never meet Satan halfway…
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Sep 24 2025 15:05 utc | 15 R2R: Palestine Round Up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOYqawWCYlM “The resistance stays strong…” Also, Canada supplying F-35 parts to USrael, and more… Recommended. Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2025 15:42 utc | 16 Posted by: fanto | Sep 24 2025 15:00 utc | 13 History repeats itself all the time. Israel is a direct continuation of USA manifest destiny policies. Gaza is only the latest in a long string of genocides for the west to establish dominance over the world’s land and resources. Posted by: Jules | Sep 24 2025 15:47 utc | 17 ‘A New Era – It’s The US & Israel Against The World’ – Former British MP https://www.rt.com/shows/sanchez-effect/625034-galloway-blame-it-on-russia-game/ “In this episode of RT’s ‘Sanchez Effect,’ Rick talks to George Galloway…” Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2025 16:41 utc | 18 Posted by: Jules | Sep 24 2025 13:45 utc | 10 We live in a dramatically different time than the post-WWII era that hosted a partly choreographed Cold War. It worked fairly well. Europe discovered the joys of peace and shook its fingers at the US propensity to go to war. Our era features pure power-politics where deceit, mendacity, and a systemically corrupt power structure dominates the Western Empire. There is no chance of a “two-state solution” in Palestine. Israel won’t accept it no matter what and they have the power, through their benefactors who control the US government and Western banks. Genocide is happening and will continue. The only change might be that Iran rains destruction on Israel but even then Israel has let it be known that it will go nuclear. The whole “two-state solution” business is phony and yet another example of Western corruption. The Western Empire never had any intention of implementing it and China/Russia and other states can’t afford to waste resources on this. In fact, it is to their benefit that the genocide continue to its final solution because it will bother the minority of people in the West who still have some moral qualms about ethnic cleansing and genocide but no one else. The West is now not only fed on fantasy but demand fantasy and the genocide can be ignored as it is by most of the mainstream media. Israel has real power and it is real power that will dominate the future because, at least for the West, there is no accepted morality just bullshit that masks as morality. Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Sep 24 2025 17:02 utc | 19 @b Well done. All good. D. # ‘Evgeni Sova, member of the Israel Knesset: 🔹”According to surveys conducted among Jewish communities in many countries, Jews around the world no longer consider Israel their country and home and do not choose to live here! 🔹Jews around the world are no longer willing to immigrate to Israel and, on the contrary, are leaving the country!” Sep 22, 2025 · 8:33 PM UTC ‘ Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 24 2025 10:18 utc | 4 Worth repeating. Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 24 2025 17:04 utc | 20 DW: Laith Marouf & Matthew Hoh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fAlbrzv2VA “This is how Israel lost it…” Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2025 17:33 utc | 21 “https://johnhelmer.net/barclays-bank-pulls-out-of-financing-israels-genocide/ “For decades, Barclays Capital has been a pillar of the City of London’s support for Israeli government debt as one of the twelve primary dealers whose role is to finance the debts of the Israeli state and funnel international capital to Tel Aviv. No longer.”” Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2025 15:04 utc | 14 I think Barclay’s is pulling out, not for moral reasons, but to sell out their Israeli assets before Israel is no more; Israel won’t exist in less than 10 years in my opinion. Posted by: canuk | Sep 24 2025 17:54 utc | 22 See if your countries politicians are on the list. “Remarkable document: hundreds of European politicians are calling to mobilize European resources to protect the Sumud aid flotilla as it faces escalating attacks on its way to Gaza. In other words: European politicians are trying to protect humanitarian volunteers *from Israel.*” https://nitter.poast.org/prem_thakker/status/1970869986475577442#m Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 24 2025 18:16 utc | 23 How many times have we seen this type of corruption – isn’t timely then that the (ICC) has arrested extradited and charged Duterte senior with crimes against humanity, it says more about the (ICC) than it does about Duterte. “The Philippines is burning: Over 20 cities erupt in protests. In Manila, 50,000 clash with riot police outside the presidential palace. Fires, Molotovs, over 70 police injured. The spark? A ₱1.2 trillion flood-control scandal. 30% of funds vanished, contractors faked progress and when Typhoon Haiyan hit, the billion-dollar “defences” collapsed like paper. Marcos Jr. promised a “Golden Age of Infrastructure” but delivered corruption, neglect of jobs and housing and loyalty to Washington’s Indo-Pacific strategy over his own people. Now, as protests rage, Marcos has literally disappeared, echoing the fate of his father who fled into U.S. exile on a U.S. helicopter. And waiting in the wings? The Duterte family, who favour independent foreign policy and pragmatic cooperation with China. Exactly what Washington fears most: its South China Sea “chessboard” collapsing overnight. “This is bigger than the Philippines. The warning is clear: U.S. allies who play Washington’s game while ignoring their people will face the same fate, external flattery, internal collapse and fire on their streets.” https://nitter.poast.org/commiepommie/status/1970831412753539367#m Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 24 2025 18:33 utc | 24 Can’t say I find this funny though its meant to be hard hitting. “Peter de Wit wins the annual award for the best political cartoon in the Netherlands.” Gaza Beach 2030. https://nitter.poast.org/pic/media%2FG1jp2zgW0AEif90.jpg%3Fname%3Dsmall%26format%3Dwebp Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 24 2025 18:40 utc | 25 Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Sep 24 2025 17:02 utc | 19 Israel gets its backing from the west, if the diplomatic efforts and graphic images can push western countries into recognising a Palestinian state for the first time, I can see them pushing for a mini-statelet that is disarmed, not threatening to Israel and Israel accepting. With recognised borders, China could build an airport that could give Palestinians access to global trade without Israeli interference. This will ensure Palestinian survival and a foothold in their homeland. At that point, it’ll be a question of demographics. Israel only has a population of 9m against a population of 150 million Muslims in the surrounding regions. It really is not a fair contest if the Muslim side were to be properly united and led. At some point, Israel’s hyper aggressive pursuit of Greater Israel will force the Arab monarchies to turn against them, in the same way that Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood offshoot, was forced to turn against their handlers. Who knows, in the future, you could have a Traore-like figure rise up in the mid east instead of the disappointing bunch today. Posted by: Jules | Sep 24 2025 18:50 utc | 26 Watch as nearly all UN members walk out during Netanyahu’s speech, why Netanyahu is even allowed to give a speech – at the UN is beyond me. https://nitter.poast.org/aldamu_jo/status/1970329059474448622#m Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 24 2025 18:56 utc | 27 Republicofscotland @ 24: Thanks for spotting/posting – a significant development indeed. BP: Bibi Busted? Massive Spy Ring Uncovered in NYC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavWVuxgbfw Krystal and Emily discuss a potential Israeli spy ring uncovered in NYC near the UN, with author and analyst Antony Lowenstein. Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2025 18:58 utc | 28 On Monday 22nd September, huge protests and strikes took place all over Italy against the Gaza Genocide. A general strike, called by the major Trade Unions affected many sectors, especially local public transport and railways, schools, public services and ports About 100,000 people demonstrated at Rome central Railway Terminus, leading to cancellation of trains. (according to the Police there were 20,000 people). Protestors restricted access to the ports of Genoa and Livorno, at Milan near the US consulate. US flag was burned, at Pisa, a major highway was blocked, at Bologna, students blocked entry to the lecture hall at the University and near Florence bottles, stones and rocks were thrown at a plant belonging to Italian defence giant Leonardo . These protests have been reported in the mainstream news media in Europe and all over the world. Posted by: redmuzhin | Sep 24 2025 19:03 utc | 29 Just dropping in to see the new bar. Nice one b 👍 Posted by: Judge Barbier | Sep 24 2025 19:09 utc | 30 Posted by: Exile | Sep 24 2025 14:52 utc | 11 Yes, we all have to resist, thank you exile. BDS since teenager, Yugoslavia was beautiful- on a right side. Posted by: stranger | Sep 24 2025 19:15 utc | 31 RE: Posted by: redmuzhin | Sep 24 2025 19:03 utc | 29 Adding to post. “Italy sends **navy frigate **to assist Global Sumud Flotilla after vessels targeted by drones off Greece” Highlights: Italy’s Defence Minister Guido Crosetto sent a navy frigate to assist the flotilla on Wednesday. “To ensure assistance to the Italian citizens on the ‘Flotilla’… I spoke with the Prime Minister and authorised the immediate intervention of the Italian Navy’s multi-purpose frigate Fasan, which was sailing north of Crete as part of Operation Safe Sea,” Mr Crosetto said in a statement posted by the ministry on X. “The vessel is already en route to the area for possible rescue operations”. Mr Crosetto expressed “the strongest condemnation” of the “attack” on the flotilla using “drones by currently unidentified perpetrators”. ?? Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2025 19:28 utc | 32 RE: Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 24 2025 18:33 utc | 24 Well written & referred docs on Philippines. Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2025 19:32 utc | 33 “The Israelis will literally launch drone strikes on activist boats for trying to bring formula to starving babies, and then turn around and say the world hates them because of their religion.” – Caitlan Johnstone see the 2:03 video at the first link see the 27-second video at the second link see the 32-second video at the third link https://x.com/SuppressedNws1/status/1970416692867019006 ⚡️🇮🇱JUST IN: Israeli settler Iris Bernstein in the Knesset: “How the hell, two years after October 7, does Gaza still exist?… There is a nation here that must be vanquished…What happened to us, that we turned into doormats…instead of erasing Gaza..” https://x.com/ireallyhateyou/status/1970283649330241870 “Gaza needs to be destroyed, in the physical sense of the word. That’s the goal, that’s the outcome.” Brig. Gen. (Res.) Efi Eitam is a former MK and minister. Eitam has been advising Netanyahu during the early days of the genocide. This is Eitam speaking on June 3 of this year. Aired on Kol Hay Radio. https://x.com/kieran_andrieu/status/1969803375689486395 FLOTILLA UPDATE: we are now SIX DAYS away from reaching the ‘orange line’, i.e. where Israel has previously illegally intercepted boats in international waters. No more planned stops. Approx. 800 nautical miles to go. This means we will be close to Gaza next weekend. In light of new attempts by Israel to smear us, please follow our journey to keep us safe and to help us break Israel’s illegal and genocidal blockade. Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 24 2025 19:41 utc | 34 Mahmood OD: Bravest UN Speech on Palestine https://www.youtube.com/@Mahmood_OD “Petro calls for ‘Global Army of Salvation & Liberation’: Colombian President @ UN 23.09.2025.” Free Palestine! Defeat/Dissolve Israel! Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2025 19:45 utc | 35 I have documented a couple of the zios, sent it to Hind Foundation. Posted by: stranger | Sep 24 2025 19:49 utc | 36 @gazanewsnow2021: Hamas leader Izzat al-Rishq said: “It is regrettable that President Mahmoud Abbas, in his speech before the UN General Assembly, condemned his people’s struggle and resistance against the most brutal occupation in history, and aligned himself with the fascist occupation’s demands to disarm the resistance. This comes at a time when the occupation and its settlers are wreaking havoc in the villages and towns of the occupied West Bank, waging the most dangerous war of extermination and eradication in the history of our people in the Gaza Strip.” Posted by: JB | Sep 24 2025 20:04 utc | 37 @gazanewsnow2021: “I call on the nations and peoples of the world to form a salvation army to liberate Palestine and stop the war.” “Words are unnecessary, and the hour of freedom or death has come.” “I call for the creation of a new Security Council that will eliminate the American veto.” Posted by: JB | Sep 24 2025 20:05 utc | 38 RE: ⚡️🇮🇱JUST IN: Israeli settler Iris Bernstein in the Knesset: “How the hell, two years after October 7, does Gaza still exist?… There is a **nation here** that must be vanquished…” After a lifetime of hearing “Palestine doesn’t exist, it’s made-up propaganda “ … I from the the Knesset today, that it has in fact, existed all along.. Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2025 20:08 utc | 39 see the 27-second video at the first link https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1970937751853031683 Italy & Spain have now deployed warships to protect the Global Sumud flotilla. Will Egypt & Turkey also get involved ? Exercises are ongoing between the two nations in the med sea. https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1970930159059689676 Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez has announced that Spain will send a Navy ship (possibly the Rayo) to the eastern Mediterranean Sea to provide rescue support to the Global Sumud flotilla, which plans to reach Gaza in the coming days. ———- https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/27-wounded-israelis-in-eilat-drone-explosion-amid-failed-int A drone from Yemen exploded in Eilat, wounding 27, as the Israeli occupation forces failed to intercept it. ….According to Channel 12, the drone struck near the Club Hotel, a well-known tourist area in the city. The incident was accompanied by the sound of two explosions and the activation of sirens across the area, outlets said. The Israeli army’s radio confirmed that two missiles had been fired in an attempt to intercept the drone, reportedly launched from Yemen, but the operation failed…. ….This marks the second incident in less than a week. Last Thursday, another drone exploded near the Naveh Hotel in Eilat, causing damage but no major casualties…… https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1970701714551406611 Benjamin Netanyahu can’t stop the war on Gaza because it will block him from bombing any country, forces him to respect boundaries and withdraw from occupied territories and will bring down his government. Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 24 2025 20:15 utc | 40 (Formerly David G Horsman. Is ‘Dave’ taken?) Great work again b. You have the perfect skill set for moving a site. Basically below your skill set or pay grade. There is no way to escape the Charlie Kirk phenomena. Everyone has had to address it and babies numerous denials. However when you see this footage you can certainly understand where all the conspiracy is coming from. Of course BB did it. However you would have to be an expert in headshots to really speak to the veracity of this analysis. Unfortunately I don’t think Ted Postal does headshots. He limits his analysis to ballistic missiles and the like. Israel Attacks Third Humanitarian Freedom/Sumud Flotilla Bound For Gaza https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/24/fvqa-s24.html “The Israeli military continues to fire on European citizens in the Meditteranean, including within the sovereign waters of European countries, with impunity.” Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2025 20:48 utc | 43 Re: ‘Italy Sends Navy Ship To Help Gaza Aid Flotilla After Drone Attack’ https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1970912621533819195 !Appeal! “I call on all states with a Mediterranean port: SEND NAVIES NOW to protect the Sumud Flotilla, escort it safely to Gaza, and BREAK THE SIEGE in what has become a ghetto of death! If not to stop a genocide, where people are being literally S.L.A.U.G.H.T.E.R.E.D, when?” Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2025 21:17 utc | 44 Drop Site At 9:56 a.m. ET, Hamas’ Al-Qassam Brigades announced they targeted two Israeli Merkava tanks in southern Gaza City’s Tel al-Hawa neighborhood. The group said both tanks were hit with Al-Yassin 105 missiles, leaving their crews dead and wounded. Israeli authorities have not provided any immediate information on the condition of the targeted soldiers. https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1970903424821584129 Posted by: Menz | Sep 24 2025 21:23 utc | 45 Square profile picture There is no universe in which this qualifies as America First. https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1970866761411990015 Posted by: Menz | Sep 24 2025 21:27 utc | 46 Howard Beckett ‘It’s not 75 years since the Nakba. It’s 75 years OF the Nakba.’ It’s ethnic cleansing. Video (0:51) https://x.com/BeckettUnite/status/1970473313219555768 Posted by: Menz | Sep 24 2025 21:32 utc | 47 Ryan Rozbiani THIS IS GOLD! 😂 Video (2:18) https://x.com/RyanRozbiani/status/1970688201494012166 Posted by: Menz | Sep 24 2025 21:37 utc | 48 Israeli-Aligned Billionaires Seize TikTok in Battle For US Narrative Control https://x.com/wikileaks/status/1970467098208952787 “The White House announced that the final sale of TikTok will be formalized this week, The new ownership led by Larry Ellison – the largest single donor to the IDF – will take control of US user data and the algorithm which the White House says will be ‘restrained.’ Even before the forced sale is finalised, censorship of TikTok content critical of Israel, including of the deal itself, has reached extreme levels as the platform moves to align with its prospective new owners…” BOYCOTT ELLISON’S ZIONIZED TIKTOK PANOPTICON NOW! ALL OFF TIKTOK! Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2025 21:39 utc | 49 Wear is dat wascally leprechaun? Another Ansar Allah attack on Israel? I thought you said it wasn’t Chosen-hunting season anymore? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0m4plxy30wo hello, you there, Mr. Leprechaun? Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 24 2025 21:46 utc | 50 It’s all a show. Most Americans don;t get it. But they will when Palantir AI system is up their ass with modern war with drones. A shout out to @Arch Bungle, I love you brother! Posted by: dobby | Sep 24 2025 21:51 utc | 51 Exile. Arch et al. At 1:06:00 we get some numbers courtesy of the Gaza statistics. Israel had 2,100 tanks https://www.youtube.com/live/64A-Cz6H-nY?si=HrD5Z3DwgG1jwGVK If they have lost 60% of their fighting capacity then they are beginning to approach the point of being exhausted. Palestine will be free. Mahmood OD https://www.youtube.com/@Mahmood_OD/streams “Italy & Spain send warships to protect Gaza Flotilla| Ireland to join| Countdown begins.” Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2025 22:09 utc | 53 The Sameer Project: Please Share Far & Wide https://x.com/Louis_Allday/status/1970928971190763757 “North Gaza is being annihilated. More people will die without our help…” Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2025 22:23 utc | 54 The freak show of israel/USA in the Middle East must come to an end. see the 18-second video at the first link. see the 1:09 video at the second link. see the 26-second video at the third link https://x.com/RamAbdu/status/1969845034158866940 🚨 Hadi and Celine Sharara were killed tonight by Israel in an airstrike on the town of Bint Jbeil, southern Lebanon. https://x.com/BeckettUnite/status/1970611221759213627 Israel 🇮🇱; USA 🇺🇸; UK 🇬🇧 did this And western media is silent Disgusting Free Palestine 🇵🇸 https://x.com/HowidyHamza/status/1970823661713301762 HORRIFYING: After terrorist Israeli settlers killed 20-year-old Palestinian Saeed Al Nassan in the West Bank, today settlers opened fire on his funeral. Not a single one of these criminals has been arrested. Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 24 2025 22:25 utc | 55 ‘Killing in the name of’ RATM, That’s a good bedtime song for your innocent children to remember Israel. You want to be demonized, that’s your zio game, always has been. How many deaths were you responsible for in WW1 and WW2? Tell us why playing the song… Posted by: dobby | Sep 24 2025 22:26 utc | 56 Posted by: Jules | Sep 24 2025 18:50 utc | 26 Maybe in the long term something civilized might result from all this–but that moment is far away. Again, power-politics has replaced international law at least in the West. With the Arab oil states–riches have corrupted those countries in both actual and moral corruption which I’ve heard from several sources. There is no avenue for change in those societies. As for the North African countries, they are the same only poorer. They haven’t cared for the Palestinians because they are so deeply corrupt top and bottom. Only Shia Iran and Yemen have had any interest in the Palestinians. The sort of morality that prevailed after WWII was deeply Christian/Humanist now, as a sociological force that has died though it shows signs of recovering in the USA but not in Europe. I the longer run that will change but in the short- and medium-term the Palestinians will likely die or face expulsion–the Israelis are committed to that–only war will change that and then who knows. Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Sep 24 2025 22:39 utc | 57 Alastair Crooke at his Conflicts Forum substack has posted a snippet from +972 Magazine, which is an Israeli publication, of an article by Orly Noy, “Israel is waging a holocaust in Gaza. Denazification is our only remedy”, proving there are some who aren’t Zionazis within Occupied Palestine. The entire article is in English and accessible. Here’s the portion Alastair provided at his substack:
IMO, those words are well over a year late in coming. The two other snippets Crooke provides in his substack’s free portion are of a contrasting nature and not nearly as strong. (I do miss the preview to ascertain if I have the html tags properly done.) -B- thank you… Love this feature: “Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 24 2025 22:52 utc | 60 Menz@46 “But the report says that with calls for removal mounting, UEFA could still revisit the issue.” The fans and opponent teams can simply refuse to go to any matches involving massacre-supporting teams, regardless what UEFA does. They can allow murderers to play, but they can’t force anyone else to show up. Posted by: Dalit | Sep 24 2025 22:59 utc | 61 The Grayzone Live! https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1970926237368602631 Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate analyze and discuss current events, including Gaza, ‘snapback’ sanctions on Iran, Larry Ellison, Charlie Kirk and more… Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2025 23:06 utc | 62 Just keeping it real my truth brothers and sisters on MOA. I love you all and especially b. Thank you, let’s get these lying bastards! Posted by: dobby | Sep 24 2025 23:11 utc | 63 see the 57-second video at the first link https://x.com/kieran_andrieu/status/1970868086958887047 We are still sailing. 37 boats are currently heading to Gaza, soon to be joined by six more from Greece. Organisers currently believe only one boat was too badly damaged by the explosions last night to continue. Night will come in the next few hours and, with it, the possibility of renewed attacks. We know you are watching us – thank you. Gaza – we know this is a grain of sand compared to the suffering you experience every minute of every day. We are coming 🇵🇸❤️ ——- https://x.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1970774743851622710 The UK now recognises Palestine, yet every day violates Palestinian airspace with surveillance missions to provide targeting intelligence to the Israeli military. Remember that next time they claim Russian aircraft over Estonia. —— https://x.com/caitoz/status/1970958781984211172 The flotilla’s whole entire grievance is that Israel isn’t allowing aid into Gaza and Israel keeps saying “If you’re not really Hamas terrorists then simply leave the aid outside Gaza and you can trust us to bring the aid into Gaza.” ——— https://x.com/GlobalSumudF/status/1970774833236705398 Mandela Mandela, grandson of Nelson Mandela, speaks out on last night’s attack on the Global Sumud Flotilla 🚨 13 explosions, comms jammed, 15+ drones overhead, and objects dropped on 10 boats. Israel falsely smears this peaceful, humanitarian mission as “Hamas” to justify aggression Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 24 2025 23:27 utc | 64 Kiev Dictator Meets Moderate Headchopper of Syria ( & vid) https://x.com/TheOtherSideRu/status/1970973253406687507 “Ukraine and the new Syrian regime meet to renew relations after surprising cozy-up to the former A/Q head by most Western leaders* at the UN…” * These collegial monsters and puppets of empire get along to go along and pretend to represent us. Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2025 23:27 utc | 65 see the 18-second video at the third link —– https://x.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1970824475508949032 This is huge news. Italy sending a naval ship to protect the Global Sumud Flotilla of aid to Gaza. This is the first, small beginning to flexing of European military power against Israeli atrocities. ——– https://x.com/sahouraxo/status/1970924071929118827 BREAKING: ——- https://x.com/omarsuleiman/status/1970638300047454243 URGENT: The Sumud Flotilla has been attacked on international waters by Israeli drones. This on a day where Israel shut the border crossing from Jordan to the West Bank and murdered multiple civilians in Gaza. Will states stand by as civilian advocates of theirs are killed too?! Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 24 2025 23:46 utc | 66 Craig Murray @CraigMurrayOrg This is huge news. Italy sending a naval ship to protect the Global Sumud Flotilla of aid to Gaza. This is the first, small beginning to flexing of European military power against Israeli atrocities. ——– sarah @sahouraxo BREAKING: ========= And I wouldn’t put it past those feckless, perfidious, virtue-signaling Europeans to ensure that their ships reach the flotilla just after it has been destroyed and/or commandeered by the Zionazis. Posted by: malenkov | Sep 25 2025 1:33 utc | 67 Chris Cosmos | Sep 24 2025 17:02 utc | 19 Christmas …. lot of carols and the more “religious” sort of greetings cards …. boke. Posted by: Cynic | Sep 25 2025 1:46 utc | 68 – “Thousands of residents in Gaza City cling to hope until the last moment. This man from the Murtaja family, I met him on Al-Jalaa Street, sitting alone in his home after he evacuated his children and family, and he remained clinging to the door of the house. He has the sweetness of logic and smile that makes the situation and the lack of companionship easier for us . I do not understand the logic and the idea of the head of the household evacuating his family to a safe place and he remains with the house in the face of the fire. Are the children and the house of the same value in the soul, or are parents not good at parenting away from their homes? Journalist Yousef Fares https://t.me/youseffares19/87490 – “All those who leave northern Gaza say to northern Gaza, peace be upon you, my city, you who know the conditions. Will we return to northern Gaza or not? They bid farewell to northern Gaza. The word earthquake is not enough for what we hear in Gaza. It is not an earthquake, earthquakes. Today, I bid farewell to Gaza City, in God’s protection, my city, from which I fled to the south Mahmoud Fanana” – “A scene from the occupation’s bombing of Gaza.” https://t.me/GazaNewsNow/437681 – The Egyptian side of Rafah https://t.me/madinat_khanyuns/19709 Posted by: Ornot | Sep 25 2025 1:49 utc | 69 “If u can shut down profit, u can make any politician do anything.” ——- https://x.com/BootsRiley/status/1970875010056380458 Italy’s PM is a right-winger, If u can shut down profit, u can make any politician do anything. https://x.com/broseph_stalin/status/1970830767778418813 Italy to send navy ship to escort the Gaza aid flotilla. This is a direct result of Italy’s general strike for Gaza. ——– https://x.com/caitoz/status/1970648793785008484 Sure is a crazy coincidence how all of Israel’s defensive actions in Gaza, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Yemen and the West Bank just so happen to look exactly the same as what it would look like if Israel was trying to massively expand its territory and take control of the middle east. —— https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1970738675047936082 Iran out here saying “in spite of attacks from nuclear-armed US and nuclear-armed Israel we don’t want nukes” while Israel attacks humanitarian vessels bring baby food to starving children and telling us Iran is the real threat. Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 25 2025 1:49 utc | 70 From ZH Houthi Drone Slams Into Hotel In Southern Israel, Wounding Over 20 quote
I keep wanting Iran to start bombing Occupied Palestine again did I do this comment correct? Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 25 2025 1:56 utc | 71 Don Firineach | Sep 24 2025 17:04 utc | 20 Well they’d better get all the various bought laws banning criticism of Israel and questioning of zionism’s propaganda claims cancelled, else they’re just hypocritical opportunists of alien loyalty, parasiting on other countries and cultures — any not 100% opposed to such laws and censorship ought to be rounded up and forcibly transported to “their” utterly rotten Israel anyway. Posted by: Cynic | Sep 25 2025 1:59 utc | 72 This, Exile, Arch 🔻81,000 of its soldiers injured across wars. 🔻20,000 struck down in Gaza alone. 🔻10,000 dragged into psychological collapse from the trauma of this war. 🔻$2.5 billion already sunk into treatment. 🔻One doctor for every 750 wounded, a shortage the propaganda cannot plaster over. This is not the image of an army marching forward, it is an institution drowning in blood, debt, and despair. Gaza bleeds, but the occupier’s army bleeds with it, in numbers they can no longer hide. https://x.com/iwasnevrhere_/status/1970332135744532912 Barflies, confront and destroy these genociders on your homefront, however you can. Can not sleep tonight and watched a movie, Apprentice, iranian danish director about Trump, Recommend. B. the site is wonderful, thank you for everything. Posted by: stranger | Sep 25 2025 3:54 utc | 75 “After Italy, Spain announces it will send a military ship to protect the Global Sumud Flotilla, carrying humanitarian aid to Gaza, from Israeli attacks.” This is certainly a hopeful sign, but the value of it depends on those warships having the orders and the guts to carry them out, to fire on and sink every Israeli warship, and shoot down every Israeli warplane that attacks them or the fleet they’re protecting. If they are willing to do that, if/when circumstances require it, then they’ll do some good. Posted by: Dalit | Sep 25 2025 4:03 utc | 76 Posted by: Dalit | Sep 25 2025 4:03 utc | 76 Wonderful news thank you, as Sumud flotilla was attacked 9 times last night, with drones, chemicals sprayed at them in international waters. Thank you, barflies resist with all your might against the most terrible crime of our lifetime. Posted by: stranger | Sep 25 2025 4:20 utc | 77 https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1971028551055917288 ⚡️⭕️Italy and Spain Dispatch Warships to Shield Gaza Aid Flotilla After Drone Attacks Italy and Spain have stepped decisively sending warships to shield the Global Sumud Flotilla, a civilian-led mission carrying desperately needed aid to the besieged Gaza strip. The flotilla came under attack on September 24 when multiple drones targeted its vessels in international waters, an assault that activists describe as an attempt at intimidation. Within hours, Italian Defence Minister Guido Crosetto condemned what he called Israel’s “unacceptable” actions, saying they reveal a government that has “lost its reason and humanity.” At 3:50 a.m., Crosetto authorised the Navy’s multi-purpose frigate Fasan to leave its patrol north of Crete and head toward the flotilla for potential rescue operations. Italian diplomats quickly notified Israeli and Italian military channels, making clear that Rome would not stand by while its citizens were threatened. Spain soon followed, with Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez announcing the deployment of a naval vessel from Cartagena to guarantee the right of Spanish citizens to “navigate the Mediterranean in safety” and to demand “full respect for international law.” Their moves send a powerful signal: two major European states publicly challenging Israel’s blockade and its campaign of collective punishment in Gaza. For Palestinians enduring starvation and bombardment, the presence of European warships alongside a civilian flotilla is more than a show of solidarity, it is a rare act of defiance against an aggressor that has long gone unchecked. Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 25 2025 6:07 utc | 78 Posted by: Savanarola, 5 Yeah, I know: China has 2 routine excuses for doing nothing on the Genocide of Palestinians: (1)Let the UN do it or the responsible parties, the ones who are committing the Genocide, (2) China never interfers in internal affairs. As John Mersheimer admitted that what was happening in Palestine exceeded the confines of theoretical realism to demand a moral response, so China’s “non-interference in a nation’s internal affairs is woefully inadequate. And Palestine being a nation subject to a barbaric invasion and takeover of its land by Israel is not an “internal affair”. When China exports a huge development project like a dam or, for example, the abandoned ‘canal project’ in Nicaragua, holding up an impoverished nation’s government to grant China a 99-year lease of land rights, was that not interference in another nation’s internal affairs? (Project cancelled, but the effects of the environmental destruction still are felt.) Continuing, when China displaces local people and destroys natural environments in other countries to transport it’s products, many of which should not have been manufactured in the first place, as they end up in trash landfills throughout the Global South, that’s interfering in the life of the planet. OT Endit. Netanyahu: There will be no Palestinian state TEL AVIV, September 24. /TASS/. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rejected the recognition of the Palestinian statehood by a number of countries. “The shameful capitulation of some leaders to Palestinian terror does not obligate Israel in any way. There will be no Palestinian state,” Netanyahu said in a brief statement, released by his office. Posted by: JB | Sep 25 2025 7:21 utc | 80 see the video at the link https://x.com/sahouraxo/status/1970946432967598153 “There is no superior race.” “There is no ‘chosen people of God’.” “It is neither the United States nor Israel.” “The ‘chosen people of God’ is all of humanity.” —President of Colombia, Gustavo Petro Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 25 2025 7:52 utc | 81 black stone black rock vanguard roth shill rotten stein fronts. Posted by: normal wisdom | Sep 25 2025 9:06 utc | 82 France, who together with Saudi, organized the sudden speed-recognition of a Palestinian state, tells the world – the plain truth of its drive: Pascal Confavreux, spokesperson for France’s Foreign Ministry, tells Fox News Digital Palestinian recognition “is not anti-Trump,” saying it defeats Hamas and backs future Arab-Israeli peace. https://www.foxnews.com/video/6380055149112 Posted by: JB | Sep 25 2025 10:13 utc | 83 Former Israeli defense minister, Yoav Galant, points the finger at the UN in a piece written for Fox News: Exc: I am proud to have stood in the position to defend the State of Israel. Given the choice, I would do so again without hesitation. As minister of defense, I led the IDF as it set standards for proportionality and distinction [not] seen in any modern military conflict. No other army has put greater effort into warning civilians in every possible way: leaflets, calls, texts, and warning shots, before targeting terrorist infrastructure. These are not the acts of an indifferent military; they are the actions of a nation of conscience and responsibility. Full: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/uns-betrayal-israels-fight-for-truth Posted by: JB | Sep 25 2025 10:23 utc | 84 JB 84 Yes, there were many warnings given, about Israel’s insanity, starting with Balfour and continuing through 9/11. Posted by: Giyane | Sep 25 2025 11:16 utc | 85 JB | Sep 25 2025 10:23 utc | 84 He is incorrect…. Posted by: Cynic | Sep 25 2025 12:04 utc | 87 Brussels- Septyember 25, 2025- The Hind Rajab Foundation is gravely concerned about a serious and imminent security threat against our Chairman, Mr. Dyab Abou Jahjah, and his family. Credible information indicates that individuals linked to Israeli security networks active in Antwerp, and with possible connections to extremist organizations such as the Jewish Defense League, are involved in this threat. There are also concerns that such structures may be connected to official Israeli state bodies. While this is first and foremost a direct threat to the personal safety of Mr. Abou Jahjah and his family, it also constitutes a threat to the Hind Rajab Foundation and its work in seeking justice and accountability for war crimes and crimes against humanity in Palestine. In light of these developments, the Belgian police and other security services have initiated measures, and the protective arrangements already in place for Mr. Abou Jahjah have been significantly tightened. The Hind Rajab Foundation and Mr. Abou Jahjah are fully collaborating with the relevant authorities to ensure that all necessary steps are taken. The Hind Rajab Foundation and its Chairman will not be intimidated. We will continue our work undeterred, but we expect all levels of security and state protection to treat this situation with the urgency and seriousness it deserves. Posted by: Vortex | Sep 25 2025 12:25 utc | 88 Cynic@12:04 If you check the literature, you will find your statement is very much a minority view held mainly by Nazi apologists Many first hand accounts of Stuka bombings speak of “paralysis” in soldiers and civilians alike such was the terror caused by the infernal screech of the.dive bomber’s sirens – known as “Jericho. Trumpets” because of the old story about trumpets knocking down the walls of Jericho. Posted by: will moon | Sep 25 2025 12:36 utc | 89 I have documented a couple of the zios, sent it to Hind Foundation. Posted by: stranger ============= SFSN! Posted by: exile | Sep 25 2025 13:03 utc | 90 will moon | Sep 25 2025 12:36 utc | 89 Exactly! Posted by: Cynic | Sep 25 2025 13:14 utc | 91 what we see what we here david dim bull bee bbc new commercial a world wide alignment cos nothing is left history has been erased atomized dusty fied. 400 hundred thousand souls blood sacrifice idf,usa usa,france,uk,german,danish and norway. bbc crocodile tears from vampyres soul stealers. demolition derby for a new kosher nostra tainted riviera Posted by: normal wisdom | Sep 25 2025 13:15 utc | 92 Posted by: Giyane | Sep 25 2025 11:19 utc | 86 Marcon confessed he admire Petain and there is quite the number of people in France who think it’s the 1940 version and not the 1916 version of the Maréchal. Posted by: Savonarole | Sep 25 2025 13:36 utc | 93 it is not just about blood sacrifice the children of gaza are sovereign a living one can make a claim… one of many deals chevron Strikes Deal With Israel To Build Natural Gas Supply Pipeline To Egypt. The clue was in the name of the gas field. They called it The Leviathan. Posted by: normal wisdom | Sep 25 2025 14:06 utc | 94 Gaza bleeds, but the occupier’s army bleeds with it, in numbers they can no longer hide. https://x.com/iwasnevrhere_/status/1970332135744532912 Barflies, confront and destroy these genociders on your homefront, however you can. “Gaza bleeds, but the occupier’s army bleeds with it, in numbers they can no longer hide.” Posted by: stranger | Sep 25 2025 3:54 utc | 75 ************* The Quran says “If you are suffering hardships, they too are suffering similar hardships, but what you can hope for from God, they cannot.” Posted by: Mary | Sep 25 2025 15:27 utc | 95 RB: Laith Marouf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToFT-S3RDVU On ‘recognition’, Yemeni missile strike, Israeli attacks on South Lebanon, Hezbollah, the flotilla and more. Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 25 2025 15:37 utc | 96 https://x.com/liamcunningham1/status/1970873863593681326 While the Italian navy are sending a frigate to assist the flotilla, last night during the drone attack I rang the Department of Foreign Affairs in Dublin 17 times. The automated voice to me to wait for an operator then the line went dead. 17 times. ———- https://x.com/theavenger5_/status/1970886367774441689 We need general strikes worldwide. Italians shut down their economy & their government responded. The entire global economy needs to come to a halt until Israel is stopped. All U.N. members who recognized the State of Palestine should send peacekeeping troops & naval support. Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 25 2025 15:44 utc | 97 Better late than never, as the saying goes. “Slovenia bans Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu from entering its territory” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 25 2025 15:56 utc | 98 Either way, fake or real, it won’t stop the genocide. “Israel is considering closing the British and French consulates in Jerusalem in retaliation for their recognition of a Palestinian state,” – Israeli Channel 12.” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 25 2025 15:59 utc | 99 Will the Spanish and Italian warships get there in time – to protect the flotilla, more to the point is all this, just show from Italy and Spain, will the headline appear we tried to get their in time but, it was too late. “Activists of the Global ‘Sumud’ Flotilla announce that they have received credible intelligence about potential violent Israeli attacks on their vessels within the next 48 hours The vessels have already faced Israeli drone strikes, surveillance, and sound bombs. Italy and Spain have deployed naval assets for protection, but the Italian Prime Minister condemned the activists without addressing the Israeli attacks. Hundreds of EU representatives have signed a letter demanding protection for the flotilla” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 25 2025 16:05 utc | 100 |
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