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September 14, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-211

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Netanyahu is laughing, he is a big winner with Charlie Kirk’s death.
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“Charlie Kirk Dares to Question October 7th attack on Israel”
Apparently from 2 months ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsXt8RodpGc
I wrote down what he said in this video in case this video
“disappears”.
Charlie Kirk:
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“…We don’t talk about Israeli politics very often and most Americans
don’t know this. The last nine months Israel was on the brink of
civil war. It is not an exaggeration, this judicial stuff, there
were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets
because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli
constitution, that’s not an exaggeration right?
There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu
where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets.
That’s all gone.
Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead.
I think some questions need to be asked.
Was there a stand down order?
‘Six hours’, I don’t believe it.
Israel’s the size of New Jersey.
When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border
it’s 45 minutes.
‘Six hours’, they’re live streaming the killing of Jews.
Did somebody in the government say stand down?
That is a legitimate non conspiracy question.”
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Netanyahu is laughing, he is a big winner with Charlie Kirk’s death.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Sep 14 2025 12:31 utc | 1

see the 50-second video at the second link
see the 16-second video at the third link. Free Gaza
https://x.com/PhilipProudfoot/status/1966627499590254876
Philip Proudfoot @PhilipProudfoot
“Two-state solution” – nice, so what are you going to do about the one state currently committing genocide
https://x.com/AssalRad/status/1966910897902977171
Assal Rad @AssalRad
If you don’t follow Palestinian journalists, you wouldn’t see these images of Israel’s deliberate destruction of Gaza.
That’s why Israel murders journalists.
https://x.com/ultras_antifaa/status/1966785170486554803
Antifa_Ultras @ultras_antifaa
“Free Gaza!”
📍O. Marseille, France

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 14 2025 12:43 utc | 2

JUST IN; 6 Israelis shot by Palestinians in Jerusalem on bus-14 injured.

Posted by: canuk | Sep 14 2025 13:24 utc | 3

In this clip Prof. Jiang explains the the influence Sir Isaac Newton’s participation in the development of Christian Zionism had on today’s global Geopolitics
https://youtu.be/37U_fAPdaWE?si=o8rVEnb_2jqsLKqr

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 14 2025 13:35 utc | 4

Watched on tv Rubio meet and greet the Zio-Monster at the airport in Tel Aviv birds of feather as the saying goes.
“Marco Rubio will meet Netanyahu to weigh West Bank annexation, as Western nations move toward recognizing a Palestinian state.
Netanyahu seeks clarity on Trump’s stance, while Rubio has privately indicated he wouldn’t stand in the way, according to Axios.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 14 2025 13:39 utc | 5

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 12th September 2025: May be Useful to Some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-ca3 Cover Gaza and ME.

Posted by: The Busker | Sep 14 2025 14:08 utc | 6

Continuous bombing of Gaza, yesterday there were over a hundred strikes, plus robot demolitions…
“A horrific massacre occurred during the third Israeli airstrike on a building inside the Islamic University in Gaza, where a large number of civilians were inside after they believed the evacuation order had expired.”

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 14 2025 14:22 utc | 7

Okay America here’s where some of your hard earned taxes are going to – I’m sure the American taxpayer could find a better use for it than to give to the Zionists.
” Trump is sending Israel an additional $650M in missile defense systems under the National Defense Authorization Act.
The agreement includes a guarantee of American stockpiles until 2029.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 14 2025 14:22 utc | 8

Check out the piccy of IOF tank girl no bias here, says I with tongue pressed firmly into cheek.
“This is Tal Shalev.
Tal Shalev is CNN’s new Senior Reporter in Jerusalem.”
https://nitter.poast.org/receipts_lol/status/1966941903900852263#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 14 2025 14:38 utc | 10

A portion of the residents of Gaza City have been forced to displace away from the ongoing destruction.
https://t.me/Sohaibpress/114468
https://t.me/Sohaibpress/114469

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 14 2025 14:43 utc | 11

I’ve been going through the YouTube forums exhaustively knocking down hasbara trolls.
It’s not that it matters, it’s just a survey of the kind of intellectual arguments that can be brought to bear to justify genocide.
My conclusion:
The old hasbara brigade has gone extinct.
The used to be capable of some level of sophistry.
They used to be able to almost convince you that the Zionists had some claim to the land.
That’s all gone bow.
All they have are primitive snorts and grunts.
Screeches of protest and outrage.
Empty assertions and half-baked slogans.
Unit 8200 must have been decimated …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 14 2025 14:52 utc | 12

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 14 2025 14:24 utc | 9
The living shall envy the dead …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 14 2025 14:54 utc | 13

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 14 2025 14:52 utc | 12
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Morale must be low as Israel has become a global pariah.
Their world gets smaller and smaller, making them smaller and smaller.
Hard to be “Chosen” if one is reviled and rejected.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 14 2025 14:57 utc | 14

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/160144

Posted by: Apollyon | Sep 14 2025 15:03 utc | 15

Via Gaza News Now
The evacuation of a residence building
https://t.me/GazaNewsNow/436090
Via Military Security telgram
“Israel continues to destroy and annihilate Gaza City, constantly bombing buildings and shelters, leaving people with only two choices: displacement in dire conditions or death.”
“About 200,000 human beings, including the elderly, women, children, the sick, the disabled, and young people, are now suffering once again in displacement convoys, on their cracked feet and in their dilapidated vehicles, carrying with them a few utensils, tools, blankets, clothes, children, and the sick…
• They are fleeing in a burning land covered with rubble, thirsty and unable to find water to drink. They can barely pray except by performing tayammum (ritual ablution) or using seawater, if it is nearby and accessible.
• They are fleeing without a loaf of bread to eat, and almost all of them cannot find anything to eat the next day.
• Their clothes are old and worn, most of them are torn, and what is not torn has already worn out. Whatever clothes are available and possible are given to the women who see hell with their own eyes and the eyes of their lost children.
• There are no displacement camps, no tents to accommodate these huge numbers of displaced people, and there are no covered or uncovered toilets. Relieving oneself has become a difficult task for which they have to take long calculations.
• Today, the need is enormous for tents, blankets, mattresses, portable toilets, emergency kits, canned food and dates, and clothing of any kind…
• Go to every organization working diligently to help the people of the border, and look for the most reliable and established one with you by asking and investigating, or send it to someone you trust from your family and loved ones if you are in a country still plagued by failure, incompetence, or conspiracy, and strive to sustain the matter, for the disaster is truly great!
Dr. Osama Al-Ashqar”
“Faced with these displacement convoys, letters freeze and words break. Oh world, thank you for your silence, thank you for your impotence. Every step the displaced take is a stain on the brow of your alleged humanity.”
https://t.me/Military_Security/7764

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 14 2025 15:08 utc | 16

Abandoning Resistance: Syria is Now Openly Collaborating With Israel
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/abandoning-resistance-syria-is-now-openly-collaborating-with-israel/
“Simply put, the Syrian leadership is actively playing a role on the side of Israel against the Palestinian people and to divide Syria even further…”
As intended and planned for by all its enemies.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 14 2025 15:17 utc | 17

“The Islamic Resistance Movement, Hamas, sent an urgent memorandum to the foreign ministers of Arab and Islamic countries, influential ….
It held the occupation government, led by war criminal Netanyahu, fully responsible for this crime and for the failure of ceasefire and prisoner exchange efforts.
The memorandum, addressed by Mujahid Brother Mohammed Darwish, Chairman of the Leadership Council, revealed that the assassination attempt came just one day after a meeting between a leadership delegation from the movement, including the negotiating delegation, and Qatari Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani. The delegation received a “new ceasefire proposal.”
The negotiating delegation had met to discuss and respond to this proposal when it was targeted.
It explained that on the evening of September 9, 2025, occupation aircraft targeted the home of the head of the negotiating delegation, Dr. Khalil al-Hayya, with several missiles, leading to the martyrdom of his son Hammam, his office director, Jihad Labad, and three companions, in addition to a member of the Qatari security forces. Several members of his family were injured, while all members of the negotiating delegation survived. The movement considered this treacherous attack a serious violation of the sovereignty of the State of Qatar, the mediating state in the negotiations…..”
https://t.me/hossamsshbat/59732
(In Arabic)

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 14 2025 15:19 utc | 18

There will be no peace until Israel is gone and Palestine is returned – for the illegal occupying military force known as Israel bombs and kills in West Asia with impunity.
“Killing the Hamas leaders in Qatar would clear the way to ending the Gaza conflict and the return of Israeli hostages, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Saturday, just days after the Jewish state bombed the militant group’s top members in Doha.
Hamas has said that its leadership was not taken out by the Israeli attack, which it described as an attempt to assassinate negotiators working on a potential settlement to the Gaza conflict.
“The Hamas terrorists chiefs” in Doha have “blocked all ceasefire attempts in order to endlessly drag out the war,” Netanyahu claimed.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 14 2025 15:23 utc | 19

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Posted by: bob | Sep 14 2025 15:42 utc | 20

[Resurrected from the last Palestine thread]
Arch,
Gotta admit Al-Qassem has been restrained the last week or so. ( compared to the 2nd big IDF flood-the-zone offensive )
Some questions:
1) Has the IDF finally applied some lessons learned ?
2) have the IDF ground pounders pulled back ?
3) ???
Posted by: Exile | Sep 11 2025 7:18 utc | 106
I thought so myself, initially.
However, I’m balancing that with the fact that the lockdown around the media has also increased.
We get reports every 2-3 days of the Resistance attacking tanks directly.
Then Silence, until the next report.
That, to me, is a sign of media suppression.
We had periods like that between December 2024 and March 2025.
My gut feel:
– The lockdown around Gaza has been increased, making it difficult to get media out of the strip.
– IDF merkavas are getting blown to hell on a daily basis
At the same time, there’s been a rise in attacks on the West Bank … The Resistance is awakening there. We get reports every 3 – 4 days of IDF vehicles getting blown up.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 14 2025 16:02 utc | 21

Some questions:
1) Has the IDF finally applied some lessons learned ?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 14 2025 16:02 utc | 21
Specifically w.r.t “lessons learned”, the IDF appear to have tried to learn some lessons around how to pull a tank into the base driveway without getting hijacked by AQB fighters.
Apparently they pull in nearer to the operating base before “popping the hatch” and getting out.
However one the the most recent incidents (late August) had them try this and still get whacked by AQB fighters who managed to shoot the tank commander as he was getting out of the hatch, then run up to the tank and drop an explosive device into it, killing the crew.
So, lessons are certainly being learned, and the Jews are a studious bunch, but learning a lesson and developing the muscle memory required to make it stick are two separate matters …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 14 2025 16:13 utc | 22

Hamas has said that its leadership was not taken out by the Israeli attack, which it described as an attempt to assassinate negotiators working on a potential settlement to the Gaza conflict.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 14 2025 15:23 utc | 19
I’m still trying to puzzle out how this happened.
The Empire dropped about half a dozen missiles into that compound.
How’d anyone get out alive in a radius of 100 meters?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 14 2025 16:16 utc | 23

In the spat between the UN Ambassadors of Israel and Pakistan, both are lying.
Britain and the US support Al Qaeda in both Pakistan and West Asia, with Funds, salaries, military bases and military aid.
Pakistan and Syria are shimming up the same date palm. The objective in both cases is to maintain a strong military presence while pretending that they have autonomy and pretending be be hostile to their overlords.
Britain has used Islamic jihad in Pakistan for centuries. Kashmiris have boasted to me that the US maintains an exclusive military zone in Kashmir the size of England.
The Israeli Ambassador was lying when he said Israel was against terrorism. Israel runs Al Qaeda and Israel commands HTS absolutely, but the Pakistani Ambassador was also lying when he said that Pakistan had eradicated Al Qaeda. It has in fact renamed its US-maintained military to exactly the same ideolology as HTS in Syria.
Both Pakistan and Israel are allies of USUKIS, as post-colonial vassals.
Nothing is going to come out of Pakistan to help Palestinians, because they are franchises of Saud takfirism against the Shi’a Axis of Resistance to Israel.
The UN is a council of Monkeys sitting on their hands in total relaxation about the aggression of USUKIS against the peoples of West Asia. More nothing is going to come from Pakistan than from the US vassals in the EU.
After its defeat in Ukraine the US ” likes to pick up some small , defenceless country and throw it against the wall “.
The Palestinians are being wife-beaten by the enraged, puny weaklings of USUKIS.
Is it Codependency? I hear you ask.
Well no , because this little wifey doesn’t take too kindly to getting beaten up by losers USUKIS.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 14 2025 16:33 utc | 24

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 14 2025 16:16 utc | 23
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I remember reading that some of the Hamas people had gone for prayers.
That would be commensurate with the incompetent IDF to launch an attack at prayer time, so they miss the targets altogether.
As opposed to, say, the attack on Iran, the Qatari operation reeks of being hastily arranged.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 14 2025 16:33 utc | 25

Arch Bungle 23
Be careful about the intuition of a believing Muslim.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 14 2025 16:46 utc | 26

Final stage of Vuelta [Tour of Spain] into Madrid abandoned just now due to Pro-Palestine protests vs participation of Israeli team in the race ….

Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 14 2025 16:47 utc | 27

As opposed to, say, the attack on Iran, the Qatari operation reeks of being hastily arranged.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 14 2025 16:33 utc | 25
A good comparison to draw.
As I understand it the Mossad refused orders to get involved in the operation, so Netanyahu ordered the military to execute it.
The lack of Mossad involvement could explain the dramatic incompetence of this strike compared to “operation midnight hammer”.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 14 2025 16:47 utc | 28