I sometimes comment – that the Germans never met a genocide that they didn’t like – that should also apply to the Brits.
https://www.markcurtis.info/2024/12/07/gaza-britains-seventh-genocide/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 4 2025 13:17 utc | 3

The coalition of the Warmongers, oops I meant willing met today.
“The meeting of Ukraine’s backers, known as the ‘coalition of the willing’, took place on Thursday at the at the Elysee Palace in Paris. Those in attendance included European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, Vladimir Zelensky, and the leaders of Belgium, Poland, Finland and France.
Kiev has been pressing the West to provide security guarantees that could serve as a substitute for NATO’s collective defense since the US effectively blocked Ukraine’s bid to join the bloc.
Several European nations, including France and the UK, have voiced their readiness to deploy peacekeepers to Ukraine, while Germany recently said it has no such plans. Trump has ruled out sending US troops.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 4 2025 13:37 utc | 5

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 4 2025 12:55 utc | 1
Philosopher John Searle’s Chinese Room comes to mind.
In the thought experiment, Searle imagines a person who does not understand Chinese isolated in a room with a book containing detailed instructions for manipulating Chinese symbols. When Chinese text is passed into the room, the person follows the book’s instructions to produce Chinese symbols that, to fluent Chinese speakers outside the room, appear to be appropriate responses. According to Searle, the person is just following syntactic rules without semantic comprehension, and neither the human nor the room as a whole understands Chinese. He contends that when computers execute programs, they are similarly just applying syntactic rules without any real understanding or thinking.

Posted by: mk | Sep 4 2025 13:43 utc | 7

CEOs w/ the Magnificent 7 companies—-Amazon, Alphabet (Google), Apple, Meta, Microsoft, Tesla, Nvidia—-have massive incentives to hype AI’s glories, most of which involve raising capital for their projects. In that the tech itself might never live up to its promise, however, there’s a good chance that the Mag 7 CEOs are simultaneously delusional or conning the populace about where & why they’re spending trillions.
Falling into the delusion & the con, media outlets oversell AI: per Axios, “You think the internet was useful and addictive? Just wait until your device knows you, your history, your patterns, your mind, your business, your health, your desires better than you. That alone warrants your obsession.”
It’s as if hype-mesmerized outlets like Axios are matchmaking us w/ the Nigerian Prince: they don’t see anything strange in an AI agent built on predictive algorithms *knowing* our desires better than we ourselves do.
[A gratuitous aside: isn’t this the essence of advertising/marketing in general—-to whet our appetite for desires we might not really have-?]
In a tactic that is less about the transfer of information and all about selling us a bill of goods, Axios claims that people “with the most insight, power and money share the AI obsession,” meaning that you’re lame if you aren’t already obsessing.
Meanwhile, family members of kids who committed suicide after forming r’ships w/ chad-gibbity are suing Open AI for negligence in the tool the company has developed. The agents are faulty enough to recommend to kids who’ve tried to commit suicide how to hide bruising from parents & other evidence.
Fallacious agents leading users down a heinous primrose path is not a phenomenon that only occurs among young people: a 56-year old man felt empowered to kill his 83-year old mother and then take his own life on account of a delusional spiral prompted by his chats w/ chad-gibbity. Other adults have experienced psychotic breaks after intensive chat sessions and have had to check themselves into psych wards. The nytimes did a lengthy profile of Allan Brooks in July who engaged so intensely w/ chad-gibbity on ideas for a math start-up that he wrote 90,000 words of text over the course of a 30-day period, experienced a psychotic break when he cottoned to the delusion and then spent a clarifying amount of time in a mental institution.
As a tool, chad-gibbity practically violates OSHA in user safety.
Open AI’s remedy-? The company promised on 2 September that chad-gibbity guardrails for teens & people in emotional distress will roll out by the end of the year.
The gives chad-gibbity, the faulty tool, 3 months to wreak havoc in the lives of the vulnerable.
My question: do we need predictive algorithms to masquerade as lifelike chum-buddies, to seem human-enough that they lead unsuspecting users into a thorny Uncanny Valley-?
A dictionary is a tool which matter of factly dispenses information. It does not pretend to be human. It does not try to cultivate a r’ship w/ you.
Imagine opening a dictionary, wanting to check the etymology of a word, but then finding that the dictionary has cloyingly, seductively made your re-shelving it unlikely through r’ship prompts, efforts to *extend* the time spent together, pouting and making suggestive jokes.
Those who helm the Mag 7 companies that make up 35% of the U.S. stock exchange’s valuation surveil the populace w/ their high-utility tools. (Like Edward Snowden said, “Facebook is not about funny cat videos and pix for grandma. It’s a surveillance apparatus.”)
The Masters of the Universe use their tools to compile data on how receptive to delusion the populace is.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 4 2025 13:55 utc | 9

Jeffrey Epstein victim:
“I was 10 years old. I was raped three times a day, sometimes. I was not the only girl on that island… there was a constant stream of girls being raped over, and over, and over again.”
All of those files need to be released.

44-second video
https://x.com/sovereignbrah/status/1963387668634767681
This is not going away, just like the genocide is not going away.
A moral crusade animates people in powerful ways.
It can be a powerful political weapon if anyone is brave enough to do so.
A politician or party can become legendary for exposing and punishing these events, and conversely, become pariah by engaging in a cover up.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2025 13:57 utc | 11

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 4 2025 13:27 utc | 4
Not so sure the grainy footage of the exploding boat is what it says it is. Looks like a film scene really. Random boat, no registration number, the camera angle moves to high above the boat, 2 cameras in use so, then bang. No reaction from Venezuela, no mention of the crew, boats coordinates etc. Typical yankee bolox I’d say.

Posted by: Ogre | Sep 4 2025 14:07 utc | 13

@ Republicofscotland | Sep 4 2025 13:40 utc | 6
starmer may as well just come out and say he supports genocide too… was he this transparent prior to running for office?? i doubt it.. he says he supports zionism… have they made it against the law to not support zionism in the uk yet??

Posted by: james | Sep 4 2025 14:53 utc | 15

A succinct geopolitical analysis of the China/US competition by a Chinese professor on 8/19. URL skips past the intro. https://youtu.be/Uv9UlQ6KkWA&t=167
Translated & dubbed. Nice use of AI, imo.
Seems to have been straightforward translation. But a few times professor Jin(?) refers to ‘the elderly gentleman’ – referring to guess who. Fantastic! (I guess no way AI could do anything but translate the metaphor).
Phrase & talk are that typical Chinese combo of blackpill+whitepill. Which I like, anyway. Then, at the end, the man gives advice to the govt. That bit is almost Machiavellian – I was bit surprised. Beijing overall seems to have slightly up-shifted gears just in the last month.

Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | Sep 4 2025 15:04 utc | 17

IMF-SAPIEN.
[Introduction: Once again, contemporary events forced me to reach back into my archives. I wrote this piece, ‘IMF-Sapien,’ more than two decades ago, but readers will find it as fresh as if it were written today.]
“Do not be ashamed of your poverty unless you got it dishonestly.” – Anon.
 
According to those who made it their business to know about those things, humanity began in Africa about five million years ago when varieties of Australopithecus separated from their monkey cousins.
Through gradual gradation, we moved from that lowly beginning to what we call ourselves today – Homo sapiens (supposedly thinking beings).
A new species of the human genus has evolved. Future researchers will again place its birthplace in Africa and time circa the late 20th and early 21st century.
Morphologically, physically, genetically, mentally, and intellectually, the IMF-SAPIEN is the equal of the HOMO-SAPIEN.
Future anthropologists will have big-time difficulties distinguishing the two species.
What, then, are the characteristics of the IMF-SAPIEN that made it a distinct species?
To recognize an IMF-SAPIEN, we have to go beyond the physical sciences.
Neither biology, geology, anthropology, archaeology, nor chemistry will help us.
Only in its behavior does an IMF-SAPIEN differ from a HOMO-SAPIEN.
Only by studying their behaviors can we distinguish between the two species.
We thus move away from the physiology domain and enter the psychology province.
How, then, do we properly recognize an IMF-SAPIEN?
Many features distinguish the IMF-SAPIENS from other species of the human genus.
Below we list some of the easily recognizable traits of IMF-SAPIENism, though not necessarily in any specific order:
The most significant trait is that the IMF-SAPIEN is a colonial being.
A colonial would adequately describe one under colonial domination, but an IMF-SAPIEN goes way beyond that.
For starters, a colonial subject always harbors the HOPE of gaining his (we are not being sexist here) freedom. He considers his position unnatural and is full of hope for freedom.
IMF–SAPIENS, however, has abandoned all hope for his salvation.
Our unfortunate cousin does not believe himself capable of self-redemption; he considers his position the natural order sanctioned by the gods.
An IMF-SAPIEN appears satisfied, even reveled, with his lowly, colonial lot.
Having abandoned any hope for self-development and self-redemption, the IMF–SAPIEN waits with childlike helplessness for others to come to his aid.
Our average Homo sapiens acknowledged that it is abnormal to be nice to those who do not know how to appreciate the gesture, never mind reciprocate it; not so with an IMF-SAPIEN.
He continues to give when his generosity is used to abuse and mock him, and curtail the essence of his self-reliance and development. 
Indeed, IMF-SAPIEN starved to make others full and satisfied.
Centuries of being treated with ingratitude have not dulled his sense of misguided altruism. So, our unfortunate cousin continues to starve despite the abundance of resources endowed to his motherland.
 
An IMF-SAPIEN sits on vast wealth whilst living in wretched poverty. Case in point: Whilst Niger languishes in darkness, the French power their town and cities with the uranium that they take from Niger at thieving prices.
Read the full article here: https://femiakogun.substack.com/p/imf-sapien-76d
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Posted by: Femi | Sep 4 2025 15:22 utc | 19

Trump’s Caribbean Massacre: A Naked Crime of US Imperialism
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/09/11/yssj-s04.html
“…Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth warned Wednesday that this is part of an ongoing escalation. ‘We’ve got assets in the air, assets in the water, assets on ships, because this is a deadly serious mission for us. and it won’t, it won’t stop with just this strike,’ he said on Fox News.
Speaking to reporters at the White House, Trump threatened, ‘And there’s more where that came from.’ In this context, the strike was, first of all, an act of imperialist aggression as part of longstanding efforts to incite a coup or civil war in Venezuela..in order to install a US puppet regime and take control of Venezuelan oil reserves, the largest in the world.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 4 2025 15:30 utc | 21

A good paper from a former Brit: ‘https://dailysceptic.org/2025/09/03/britains-descent-towards-civil-war-is-no-accident/’.
The key message from the paper: ‘Meet the new imperialists: same as the old imperialists.’
In other words, the British Empire Elites (aka Globalists) are applying their age-old method of imperial control, ‘to manage society by division’, only this time internally, within Britain, and in doing so are leading it to civil war.
I would add that, given that these same British Empire Elites control the EU and most government’s in the West, the entire Western world is marching in lock-step with Britain towards its demise.

Posted by: dh-mtl | Sep 4 2025 15:34 utc | 23

james (15).
No its not illegal to support Zionism a form of Nazism in Britain, it is illegal however to publicly show you support Palestine Action, and pro-Palestinian demonstrators in Britain, are often filmed kettled and arrested by the police, whilst those who publicly support Zionism are not, the Zionists are committing genocide against the Palestinians, but its okay to publicly voice support for the Zionists.
Britain is tumbling towards fascism, its already a pretty authoritarian place to live in.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 4 2025 15:40 utc | 25

@steel_porcupine #9
You are 100% wrong.
The CEOs of the big tech companies ARE NOT raising money. They are spending existing profits from their various monopolies.
Raising money IS NOT the motivation.
The actual motivation is that these unimaginative, not capable, PMC wankers have been convinced by Altman – and have convinced themselves – that LLMs are the only possible next hyperscaler leg up for their respective companies.
Google hyperscaled for search. Facebook/Meta for social media. Microsoft for OS. Amazon for AWS/cloud.
If these companies do not continue to grow at fantastic rates, their stock prices fall and their CEOs are failures.
Note it does not matter that they are fantastically profitable. Loss of super high growth rates inevitably compresses price to profit ratios.
Yes, there are some variables in this equation. Google’s enshittification of search has opened a window for others, principally Microsoft, to try and attack Google’s search effective monopoly by hopefully circumventing Google’s search landing page with an LLM prompt.
Google, in turn, is disintermediating the content hosters/creators/providers on the internet by retaining traffic on its own “AI” home page. If Google can keep users on an AI prompt, they don’t go to the source web sites, which in turn means ad revenue can only be generated from the AI prompt screen.
Face/meta, for its part, has failed its metaverse. It is exposed because its ad revenue is a minority vs. Google’s and is vulnerable to Google forcing “time on internet” and visits to an AI prompt, so has to provide its own option.
And Amazon wants to see if it can horn in on any of the above; at worst, to continue to dominate cloud by dominating GPU data centers.
But ultimately, regardless of the overarching reason (hyperscaling) or the specific sub-reasons (search, time on page/visits, ad revenue, cloud, etc), the core tech and its economics are shit.
And the only question now, is how this bubble will burst and what will get taken down with it.
Double digit percentages of US stock markets are now directly dependent on this bubble – far more than the Y2K era and internet companies.

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 4 2025 15:44 utc | 27

“President Trump, during the Coalition of the Willing meeting, “demanded that Europe stop buying all Russian oil, and oil products,” Reuters reports
And.
President Trump encouraged his European counterparts to sanction China for financing the war in Ukraine, during the ‘Coalition of the Willing’ meeting
Also.
UK’s Prime Minister Starmer announces the UK is ready to supply Ukraine with long-range missiles, during the ‘Coalition of the Willing’ meeting in Paris”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 4 2025 15:46 utc | 29

@LoveDonbass #26
Yeah, right, you know so much.
DeepSeek has even higher hallucination problems that the Western LLMs.
I can totally see some idiot factory manager using it – until it breaks all kinds of shit.
This is right up there with the Chinese guy who sold ethylene glycol for children’s medication even though it is toxic for children.
What is interesting is that he didn’t do it out of deliberate evil – he did it out of a combination of ignorance and smarts. He was smart enough to understand that ethylene glycol is similar to glycerol – which is not toxic and is the actual sweetener typically used.
And he tested it by drinking some himself.
But of course, the toxicity is primarily for children, not adults so he was fine but the Central and South American kids who drank the OTC medicines made with the mislabeled ethylene glycol – many died.
As for Deepseek use: Deepseek has comparable stats to ChatGPT. So the story you want me to believe is that the Deepseek users in China are doing different things than the Deepseek users in the US or the ChatGPT users in the US. Sounds like bullshit to me – we will see when Deepseek’s financials for 2024 ever get published.

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 4 2025 15:51 utc | 31

Trump said the Chinese Military Parade was very impressive – I bet he was shitting himself.
“Trump admits he stayed up last night to watch China’s military parade”
https://nitter.poast.org/IranObserver0/status/1963279701637464232#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 4 2025 15:54 utc | 33

Posted by: c1ue | Sep 4 2025 15:25 utc | 20
Gary Marcus has a whole substack on the inanities of AI.
Picked this one up from an OT thread a couple of weeks ago:
GPT-5: Overdue, overhyped and underwhelming. And that’s not the worst of it.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 4 2025 16:01 utc | 35

Spain is not in the news, when it should. Our president, and I say this not being a fan of his, somehow has managed to miss the last two gatherings of the “willing”, the first one because of the summer fires that ravaged north west Spain, and the last one because his airplane was out of order, or so they say. Harshly criticized I think he is trying to be last in the losers line.
Something else that is not in the news when it should be front page is La Vuelta, not as famous as the Tour de France or Il Giro of Italy it is probably the third most important international cycling event, this year an Israeli team is participating and the sea of Palestinian flags are all over the route is amazing, today’s stage had to be timed three kms. before the finish line since protesters were blocking it, of course the organizers argue that it is not in their power to ask the hated team to abandon the competition, the risk of accidents for the rest of the riders is growing as the race goes on, hopefully the people will win even though the money and influence involved are quite powerful.

Posted by: Paco | Sep 4 2025 16:05 utc | 37

In POTUS elections for 2016, 2020, and 2024, choices included Cankles, Augustus Cheeto, Bidet, and Cackles. That’s whom 95% vote for.
You people think AI won’t surpass these retards?
We have functionality that didn’t exist 20 years ago. Here you are denying how far it can go.

Posted by: I forgot | Sep 4 2025 16:08 utc | 39

Posted by: jayc | Sep 4 2025 16:06 utc | 38
CBC is utter garbage; it has gotten worse these last few years-hardly anyone watched it while we taxpayers give them $5 million a day.

Posted by: canuk | Sep 4 2025 16:13 utc | 41

Riddle me this: How Can You Have Someone whose Job is to oversee Mortgage Fraud, allegedly commit Mortgage Fraud? https://shorturl.at/0u8wb

Posted by: Dogon priest | Sep 4 2025 16:30 utc | 43

Deepseek has comparable stats to ChatGPT.
Posted by: c1ue | Sep 4 2025 15:51 utc | 31
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“Stats”. Why are so many Americans autistic? Is it the vaccines?
Stats don’t matter.
You can have a better engine, but if I am a better driver, I will win the race.
America has squandered the world’s largest military, economy, and the global reserve currency.
America got its ass kicked in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and now in Ukraine.
It got spanked twice this year by Iran and Yemen.
When I was automating the plant I was working at, I had no fancy tech. I just saw an opportunity and found ways to make it work.
It’s the old desire to achieve the difficult with few resources, as humans have always done.
America can’t do that because it is a litigious society centered around “influencers” and spectacle. Americans don’t solve problems. They copy another person’s homework and then patent or copyright it.
China is finding ways to incorporate AI into everything without limitations or bias. Grade school children (ages 8-12) in China are being trained to use AI. Western kids can’t figure out which bathroom to use.
You clearly know little about manufacturing, development, or automation. This topic appears to be above your pay grade.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2025 16:37 utc | 45

On the issue of military effectiveness, the People’s Liberation Army hasn’t fought a war since the 1979 invasion of Vietnam, which they lost.
Skill comes with practice, generally speaking. Veteran troops who’ve experienced battle are far more reliable than green troops.
So no, I’m not so sure that the PLA would destroy any US forces so easily. The ability to put on a good parade is not a particularly good indicator of battlefield military prowess in my view. You may protest that the American army hasn’t won a won in eighty years. I reply that the political objective of laying waste to whole countries has usually been achieved, often with relatively minuscule forces (essentially mercenaries.) And most of all I reply that the US has nukes and the expressed determination to use them if faced with defeat on the battlefield. Nobody I know of has proposed a plausible end game for American imperialism (not even Zionist genocidal colonialism.) Any scenario that depends on the American bourgeoisie going broke and quitting, or on some sort of collapse where everyone just gives it all up as a bad dream seems to me more wishing than thinking. And unfortunately the heart felt slogan “Better dead than red!” implies another, “Being red means being dead, because the imperialists will destroy your country…so better the white flag than the red flag!”

Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 4 2025 16:53 utc | 47

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 4 2025 13:17 utc | 3
Special mention to Lord Kitchener, for the establishment of concentration camps in South Africa around 1900: Bloemfontein, Pretoria, Potchefstroom, Irene, Heidelberg, Heilbron, Kroonstad, Norvalspont, Pietermarizburg and Port Elizabeth.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 4 2025 17:04 utc | 49

Unsurprisingly the London/Tel Aviv puppet FM of Scotland, John Swinney – has jumped on the Free Palestine wagon – he’s in campaign mode – with a big election coming up next year in Scotland, the SNP which Swinney heads is a pro-Israeli party, the behind the scenes string puller Angus Robertson has met several times with Israeli reps, and they get on like a house on fire.
But Swinney knows many Scots are sick to death of the lie s and deceit from the party, so not only has he jumped on the pro-Palestinian band wagon to win votes – the lying snake has also jumped on the dissolve the union band wagon spouting dissolve the union shit, knowing fine well he himself is a die-hard unionist, and from what I’ve read a Zionist to boot.
Always remember politicians will say just about anything to win your vote in an election – and once there arse is in the door – and they know they are onto a good living, they will spin around and give you the middle finger, like Swinney, and his treacherous party have done for the last decade.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 4 2025 17:21 utc | 51

Passerby (49).
Yes indeed – and many Boers were even deported from their own lands, never trust the Brits Perfidious Albion has form.
Cecil Rhodes famously said, “To be born English is to win first prize in the lottery of life.” Rhodes did his best to try and chase the Boers out of their lands.
“The Boer General Piet Cronjé was amongst the first contingent of 514 to arrive in St Helena on board the troop-ship Milwaukee, escorted by the HMS Niobe. On 27 February 1900, Cronjé had surrendered to Lord Roberts after the battle of Paardeberg. Illustrating his arrival on the island of St Helena, Punch magazine depicted the Boer general saluting the ghost of Napoleon and saying ‘Same enemy, Sire! Same result!'”
Napoleon was sent to St Helena in 1815 – after his defeat at the battle of Waterloo.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 4 2025 17:44 utc | 53

I agree with c1ue. You’re out of your depth.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 4 2025 16:31 utc | 44
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I believe the issue is that a few of you have little depth on the topics being discussed.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2025 16:44 utc | 46

Stop it, Love. This is not going anywhere. c1ue has command of this topic, and I am fully onboard with what he said here and elsewhere before about AI – due to me indeed understanding his arguments.
While it looks a lot like the retooling of a factory with what was on hand for you mainly involved a screwdriver with a changeable head. Fine, but trying to upset actual expertise is just embarassing yourself.

Posted by: persiflo | Sep 4 2025 17:56 utc | 55

After the assassination attempt on Trump, I wondered whether the following would have worked.
Technology is used instead of a perpetrator on site. Drones can be paralysed by EW, but artificial intelligence and fibre optics offer alternatives.
You could also combine proven technology with today’s means.
A remote-controlled sniper rifle is placed covertly for this purpose.
https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2020/11/08/trap-the-remotely-operated-sniper-station-of-fbi-swat-and-u-s-army/
Control and video are then transmitted via the internet. Depending on the stationing object (car/house), WLAN, fixed network or Starlink can then be used.
The way Rutte, Merz and co. are acting, the nations will have little choice but to set an example.

Posted by: BlindSpot | Sep 4 2025 18:11 utc | 57

Hilarious watching people argue over their private expertise in A.I.
Y’all really think the anondyne fare freely available to the public is the same as what governments reserve for themselves??
No there won’t be “T2: Judgment Day” styled warfare but neither are smart/dark factories in China (one of which is even experimenting with 10G cellular — that’s right, 10G, when all of China is currently transitioning into 5.5G [faster speeds make for better automation]) a myth or hype…the tech is nowhere near sci-fic levels right now but neither is it just all glorified Mechanical Turks.
Personally I would bet my entire life-savings that we’ll never actually achieve GAI/AGI never mind Superintelligence so no, no 100% safe self-driving, but there will still be a surprising amount of automation possible….

Posted by: CasualObserver | Sep 4 2025 18:26 utc | 59

steel_porcupine @1 et al
Everybody remembers Deep Blue beating Garry Kasparov. A tremendous success for computer intelligence, right? Wrong, it was in fact a demonstration of the limitation of scaling. Deep Blue was a huge piece of hardware, twice the size of a cray supercomputer. But three years after the DB-GK match you could beat Kasparov or Deep Blue with your phone. If you believe scaling works there is a roulette wheel waiting for your money.

Posted by: Gerry L Forbes | Sep 4 2025 18:32 utc | 61

*anodyne
BTW, “AI” is hype but that doesn’t mean there won’t be incredibly useful automation to be achieved (“AI” is in quotes since so many things are meant by that catch-all term).
But not understanding consciousness is what makes people imagine AGI/GAI is possible…or that actually useful and achievable “AI” is just hype.

Posted by: CasualObserver | Sep 4 2025 18:33 utc | 63

Posted by: CasualObserver | Sep 4 2025 18:26 utc | 59
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A question that no one asks is why anyone would want AGI?
What will it do for me or Bob across the street?
How will it better the lives of my children?
FYI, AI is already being used in the Ukraine war by both sides, and that is laying the early groundwork for later and larger implementations.
It is being used in Israel against the resistance. Sure, it’s ham-handed, but again, they are building the test data to improve and iterate upon.
People who think that AI is just an LLM completely misunderstand implementation.
AI allows intelligent automation. Not sentient automation but hands-free automation in thousands of activities that currently require human intervention, and thus lighting, which is why the factories are dark. No one needs to see. Instead of human optical sensing, the sensors are technological and not biological.
And most important in manufacturing, AI-driven processes are “repeatable”. No one accidentally leaves their ham sandwich inside a car door on the assembly line. Great quality time after time, no depression, no alcoholism, no low blood sugar.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2025 18:42 utc | 65

A drug smuggling boat will not have eleven crew members. Most likely it was Venezuelans been smuggled to Trinidad.

Posted by: bbeer | Sep 4 2025 19:12 utc | 67

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2025 18:42 utc | 65
RE: in replacing human labor, AI-powered robotics produce great quality time after time, no depression, no alcoholism, no low blood sugar.
Which is all fantastic: human problems in the work place are unproductive.
Now we only have to worry about *discomprehensions* which are an inevitable byproduct of LLMs. AI models trained on LLMs produce results that are plausible but not necessarily correct.
Hallucinations, inaccuracies & fallacious reasoning will continue to bedevil these models, not to mention gibberish & slop.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 4 2025 19:21 utc | 69

@ bbeer | Sep 4 2025 19:12 utc | 67
agree… this is trumps version of obama bombing somalian wedding parties…. turnip and oblama have a lot in common.. one feel off the back of a truck, and the other – who knows.. it is totally fucked, but in keeping with usa foreign policy agenda… they never run on their bs foreign policy objectives either, but the peace candidate, lol- trump – well he is spreading love and peace everywhere, isn’t he?? about time for his duplicitous nobel peace prize.. coming soon to a hollywood theatre near you..

Posted by: james | Sep 4 2025 19:24 utc | 71

@ CasualObserver | Sep 4 2025 19:14 utc | 68
A Star Trek future is possible. But everything the Natzo regime does suggests that’s not the future they have in store for us. I fear their talk of “UBI” is just to provide false hope as they cut staff. “Don’t worry. We will include UBI in the next infrastructure bill.”

Posted by: I forgot | Sep 4 2025 19:32 utc | 73

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 4 2025 13:27 utc | 4
RE: a three-hour tour
<< DJT ascertained that Gilligan, the Skipper, Marianne & Ginger too---plus 7 others---were not actually on a three-hour sight-seeing tour but were narco-terrorists from Venezuela's Tren de Agua gang, smuggling fentanyl to the U.S. There is no way of verifying if DJT's ideas about this are correct, because a missile strike from the Iow Jima aircraft carrier obliterated the speedboat and its passengers. Professor Mearsheimer spoke w/ Judge Nap today about execution-from-a-distance on the high seas today and the lack of due process in carrying out said execution. Imagine for a moment you're sailing off St. Pete Beach w/ some friends. You've got the fishing tackle. You're watching pelicans dive into the Gulf waters. You're knocking back a couple of cold ones. But high above, caught in the crosshairs of a Reaper drone's crosshairs, your boat is being monitored & tracked---and video is fed directly to a U.S. aircraft carrier's flight deck where a military technician stands ready to trigger the missile launch. Your last act may indeed be casting your baited line toward the horizon. Any day that includes fishing is a good day. Dying while fishing might be the best way to go.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 4 2025 19:39 utc | 75

@I forgot RE: #73
“A Star Trek future is possible.”
Well it’s “possible” in the sense that “Buddhist Enlightenment” is “possible” (“be ye the authors of your own salvation”)…but extremely unlikely.
No one’s coming to help. Certainly not “AI” though again there will continue to be amazing advancements in automation and mimicry.

Posted by: CasualObserver | Sep 4 2025 19:54 utc | 77

@ 40 Formerly Miss Lacy:
I agree. Nazi clappers/collaborators with a media to match.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 4 2025 20:06 utc | 79

Narco-terrorism (unleashing deadly opioids into the U.S.) is a clear and present danger to the fabric of the United States.
However…and this is a big HOWEVER: the Federal Gov’t can not be trusted as it exists. We have enabled the cartels that have played ball with us and the Mexican Gov’t all throughout this epoch.
If Nationalists were to seize control of the Federal Gov’t, if we were to close military bases abroad, retreat from Ukraine, tell Israel that they need to be good faith bargainers with their neighbors, and stop undermining nationalist policy in Latin America by propping up terror, then and only then would I say, “Let ‘er rip. And screw the Mexican Gov’t if they can’t control their own narco-state.”
As it stands, what we are looking at is the Federal Gov’t desperately trying to produce a “win” without realizing that the neocons and neolibs that have steered its policy of devastation remain unchallenged.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 4 2025 20:27 utc | 81

Posted by: CasualObserver | Sep 4 2025 19:36 utc | 74
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You may not call it AI but the ROW does.
AI in the West is the latest Tulip mania. Speculative cash grab. I get total 1999 tech bubble vibes.
For those of us who care about making real things and elevating human standards of living, AI as China and the ROW see it, is practical, effective, and transformative.
That is why it being available as Open Source is a big deal. A mortal blow to the rent-seeking IP regimes the West is built upon.
Advanced automation is what is driving the future. Some abstract Zionist masturbatory dream of AGI is irrelevant to most of humanity. Of course, that is the Western focus. To build better cages for the humans they don’t kill.
Every time a US Treasury Secretary is crying about Chinese “overcapacity”, they are buttmad that the Chinese have found ways to make more, for cheaper. Excess supply drives prices down, which annihilates the elite class.
Material scarcity is being challenged by Chinese Communism.
A lot of rent-seeking rice bowls are going to get smashed, hence the irrational pushback on China.
Revolutionary government is the only kind of government worth having.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2025 20:59 utc | 83

Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 4 2025 20:59 utc | 84
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China may be the only country where “the people” are in charge.
No one in the West has any independence or sovereignty.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 4 2025 21:06 utc | 85

steel_porcupine | Sep 4 2025 19:39 utc | 75
…missile strike from the Iow Jima aircraft carrier obliterated the speedboat
@bar physics / military guys
Q: Do we believe that?
I never studied physics. But reading debunks of stuff since my 9/11 rabbit hole days… I’d like some guys here to debate whether the U$ really has the capability to launch a missile at a moving target over water?
A static target.. ok.
But a fast moving speedboat?
The sloSMO has shown FPV drones can track moving vehicles.
Can a missiles from a vessel hundreds of kms away, track and hit a speedboat?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 4 2025 21:20 utc | 87

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 4 2025 21:20 utc | 87
Hi Melaleuca — that’s what the main focus has been for centuries!
My answer is yes.

Posted by: jonku | Sep 4 2025 21:34 utc | 89

Eighthman | Sep 4 2025 20:59 utc | 84
Q: Why is the UK electorate stuck with Starmer?
Dunno. But here in Oz we spent a decade churning PMs at the rate of a new one on average, every 18 months or so.
Internal leadership “spills” and then pendulum election results.
Nothing worked.
It’s been a spiral to the least capable “leadership” every new iteration of a “PM”.
IMVHO Murdoch media is culpable. He has been “king-maker” here, in the UK and to some degree in the U$.
All Oz leaders do his bidding, but the dumber and weaker, ethically and emotionally, the better for him.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 4 2025 21:47 utc | 91

Eighthman | Sep 4 2025 20:59 utc | 84
Q: Why is the UK electorate stuck with Starmer?
A. Because they bothered to vote.

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 4 2025 22:16 utc | 93

Eighthman | Sep 4 2025 20:59 utc | 84
Q: Why is the UK electorate stuck with Starmer?
A. Because they bothered to vote.

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 4 2025 22:17 utc | 95

jayc@38…..if you have a CBC Decoder Ring, anything they say it’s usually the opposite….a boat full of drug smugglers, blowing them up is overkill, lots of trophies to put on display great public PR. Blowing the boat, the occupants and its contents up is more like….hmm, destroying the evidence….Little St James is in that hood, maybe the US Lolita Flotilla was cleaning up loose ends…..
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 4 2025 22:19 utc | 97

jayc@38…..if you have a CBC Decoder Ring, anything they say it’s usually the opposite….a boat full of drug smugglers, blowing them up is overkill, lots of trophies to put on display great public PR. Blowing the boat, the occupants and its contents up is more like….hmm, destroying the evidence….Little St James is in that hood, maybe the US Lolita Flotilla was cleaning up loose ends…..
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 4 2025 22:21 utc | 99