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September 26, 2025
Another Crazy Idea On How To Steal Russia’s Assets: Make EU Taxpayers Pay For It

The war hawks have long tried to steal Russian assets held in West to then use the money to finance the proxy war against Russia. The sums involved are serious:

Nearly three years after the start of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Belgium holds €258 billion in frozen or immobilised Russian assets.

The General Administration of Treasury at the Ministry of Finance confirmed the figures on Wednesday to La Libre and De Tijd.

Some of these assets belong to institutions not sanctioned by the European Union. Frozen assets amount to €65 billion, with an additional €193 billion in immobilised transactions, primarily from the Central Bank of Russia.

The money is not really held by Belgium but by the Belgium company Euroclear which acts as depository for  international central bank assets denominated in Euros.

Currently the EU is confiscating the interest, not the principal, of that money to distribute it to Ukraine. That step is likely already illegal and Russia will certainly use the courts to get it back.

There were also talks to invest the Russian assets in junk bonds with aim of achieving a higher yield:

Euroclear chief executive Valérie Urbain told the Financial Times that European Union plans to raise additional revenue from frozen Russian assets by investing them in higher-risk securities would amount to “expropriation.”

Urbain also warned that such a move could prompt “Russian retaliation in all sorts of forms,” as well as damage Euroclear’s reputation.

The majority of Russian assets frozen after Moscow’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine are currently held at Euroclear.

The E.U. has reportedly been discussing the possibility of transferring these assets to a special E.U.-administered fund that would make higher-risk investments. The goal is to generate greater returns to support Ukraine.

That move was blocked as no one was ready to accept the potential liability for it. Not only Belgium, but also Germany and other fiscal conservative states, have warned that such a move would endanger their own assets. Russia has announced that it will retaliate against any confiscation of its money. It threatens to confiscate whatever European companies own or hold in Russia. Those companies would then have to sue their own governments for cover of their losses.

Now a new idea has crept up. How it is supposed to work is not clear to me but it seems to have the support of the German Chancellor Friedrich Merz.

In a Financial Times op-ed Merz claims (archived):

Germany has been, and remains, cautious on the issue of confiscating the Russian central bank’s assets that are frozen in Europe, and with good reason. There are not only questions of international law to consider, but also fundamental issues concerning the euro’s role as a global reserve currency. But this must not hold us back: we must consider how, by circumventing these problems, we can make these funds available for the defence of Ukraine.

In my view a viable solution should now be developed whereby — without intervening in property rights — we can make available to Ukraine an interest-free loan of almost €140 billion in total. That loan would only be repaid once Russia has compensated Ukraine for the damage it has caused during this war. Until then, the Russian assets will remain frozen, as decided by the European Council.

Such extensive assistance will require budgetary guarantees from member states. Those bilateral guarantees should, as soon as the next Multiannual Financial Framework is in place in 2028, be replaced by collateralisation under the EU’s long-term budget.

What sounds like AI slop is not Merz’ own idea but a plan that had been proffered earlier by the EU commission. But no one seems to understands how its is different from an outright confiscation of those assets:

Frustration has been building in EU capitals around the lack of details surrounding the so-called reparations loan, which Commission President Ursula von der Leyen first pitched in her State of the European Union speech Sept. 10.

The bulk of the Russian assets are held by the Brussels-based financial firm Euroclear and are invested in Western government bonds that have matured into cash. The cash is sitting in a deposit account with the European Central Bank.

The idea is for the EU to redirect the cash to Ukraine and “enter into a tailored debt contract with Euroclear at 0 percent interest,” according to the note.

Euroclear holds €185 billion in cash balances linked to the Russian assets, a part of which will pay back a preexisting G7 loan to Ukraine.

The remaining €140 billion will be paid out to Ukraine in tranches and used for “defense cooperation” as well as supporting Kyiv’s ordinary budget needs.

Reuters has more details on it:

To avoid seizing the Russian assets, the idea is to transfer the cash from Euroclear to a newly created Special Purpose Vehicle (SPV) owned by EU governments, or G7 governments as well. In exchange, the European Commission would issue Euroclear with zero-coupon bonds guaranteed by the owners of the SPV.

The EU bonds would cover Euroclear’s risk against Russian litigation while the cash in the SPV could be invested more profitably than overnight deposits in the ECB and thus generate a higher return for Ukraine.

Why would this scheme, as Merz say, ‘require budgetary guarantees from member states’? Doesn’t that mean that the tax-payers of those member state will eventually have to pay it? Who’s money is at risk when Russia wins its litigation? Who pays if something goes wrong?

Some 62% of German voters disapprove (in German) Merz’ policies. Only a record low 35.5% says that he is right in what he is doing.  In the fiscal conservative Germany any attempt to borrow more money for the war in Ukraine will further sink his and his party’s chances of ever being reelected.

Merz knows that the scheme has little chance to find unanimous EU approval. He plans to circumvent (archived) opposition to it:

I propose that, at the European Council at the end of October, we give the mandate to prepare this instrument in a legally secure manner.

That decision should, ideally, be unanimous — failing that, it should be adopted by the large majority of member states who are firmly committed to Ukraine. We should also invite partners around the world that have frozen Russian assets to join the instrument. To this end, we will co-ordinate closely with our partners in the G7.

Luckily it is Belgium which has the last says in this. It is, naturally, opposing the scheme:

Speaking in the margins of the UN General Assembly, Mr De Wever said that Chancellor Merz’s proposal “will never happen”. The Belgian Prime Minister argues that seizing central bank assets of a third country would set a dangerous precedent

“If countries see that central bank money can disappear when European politicians see fit, they might decide to withdraw their reserves from the eurozone.”

De Wever added Chancellor Merz’s public statement regarding this is regrettable. “I’ve told everyone that I am happy to discuss this. But let’s talk and come up with something, rather than sharing an opinion on it every day. I find it quite frustrating.”

It is, in the end, Russia’s money. Any attempt to seize is outright thievery. How long will it take for sane people to intervene and to shoot this idea down?

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🇷🇺💥🇺🇦 A massive strike on Ukrainian targets is being prepared, – monitoring resources

➖”At least 6 Tu-95MS, 5 Tu-22M3, 1 Tu-160, as well as 4 MiG-31K, 4 cruise missile carriers ‘Kalibr’ are ready for the attack” — complain enemy resources.

▪️It is also claimed that preparations are underway for UAV launches from at least 5 directions.

I’d note sometimes these can be fake launches to throw enemy off guard.

@Slavyangrad

Posted by: Jo | Sep 27 2025 22:06 utc | 201

Posted by: Carlos Marques | Sep 27 2025 10:38 utc | 128

Bravo Zuulu, Sir, and may the feckle leadership in Sarajevo heed your recounts as they are continiously lied to, coerced into, and tricked into ultimately signing away the rights of 3 million Bosnians/Serbs/Croatians to the hideous alter of EU membership.

Posted by: Ering46z | Sep 28 2025 1:36 utc | 202

The Magnificent Seven.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD5N0rTsulQ&list=RDWD5N0rTsulQ&start_radio=1

Posted by: Siddhartha | Sep 28 2025 2:17 utc | 203

Ben Norton’s views linked below are an insight as to the Trump administration and its neocon backer’s plans for Venezuela and the rest of the world that apparently just has to be rearranged purely for the US rogue state’s interests. So much for ‘rules based order’ the unabashed view now is that the US will just take whatever it wants (not that it didn’t do that before, it’s just more overt now). Reminds me of Nazi Germany in 1939. Of course its likely to trigger yet another Vietnam if it goes ahead since Russia and China have extensive economic and strategic interests in South America now, some in Venezuela. But what do neocons like Rubio care? You just abandon ship and leave the mess behind as in Ukraine with other countries in debt to pay back the MIC and then set up another disaster in the making.

Many of you might know Ben who used to be on the Grayzone but then shifted to having his own channel focused on South and Central America, before shifting that again to a focus on economy and world geopolitics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb_ICR9b2JE

Posted by: George | Sep 28 2025 2:32 utc | 204

In the new world order the US should be renamed the Disunited States of World Sabotage. All they seem to want to do is destroy everyone else in the world’s chances of prosperity and technological advance and right to freedom. What an appalling effort on the part of its corrupt leaders. I call it ‘disunited states’ since domestically it appears that is all Trump wants to do as well: pit Republican States against Democrat States by sabotaging the latter’s chances of survival as well.

Posted by: George | Sep 28 2025 2:43 utc | 205

This fits too well, now the difficulty is to say if it happens tomorrow, next week, or within a year.

The aircraft include an arrival of nine or so US Poseidons stationed a little north of Oslo at that country’s main airport. In and of themselves they are irrelevant but the bigger picture they are part of creating is not.

If things stay this way or continue to build up there is a very high likelihood something will go wrong, by accident or on purpose.

This whole “Baltic” thing is the closest possible approach to a St. Petersburg and Moskva decapitation attack.

The distances involved are very short.

That’s what they’re probing, nothing to do with the imagined drones that nobody should believe in.

Russia can not/will not accept the growing danger of losing those two cities.

That means what you think it does.

Even stupid stuff like the US generals meeting is begging to be given the worst possible interpretation.

I think strikes in Europe will be against specific military forces and somewhat limited. Possibly no nukes at all.

While strikes in North America will be against their political system as well, or possibly without any limit at all (full nuclear strike).

The Pentagon can still stop this by taking action against Washington, both Trump and both houses, every single one of them..

All the chatter, all “the wind in the trees”, is moving in the same direction. That is not proof but it is dangerous on its own no matter what is taking place, it is not usual.

I think this is it.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 28 2025 3:19 utc | 206

From Simplicius’ newest piece:

“Democracy is blue-in-the-face and cold-to-the-touch in the totalitarian EuroCircus. Elections at this point are merely procedural pageantries for crowning of the pre-selected ‘winner’. As stated earlier, the closer things get to the edge for this rotting organ, the more “mask-off” its corrupt politburo must go to preserve power.”

Spot on.

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/where-democracy-goes-to-die-rule/comments?utm_source=substack&publication_id=1351274&post_id=174586209&utm_medium=email&isFreemail=true&comments=true&utm_campaign=email-half-magic-comments&action=post-comment

Posted by: George | Sep 28 2025 5:23 utc | 207

Sorry wrong reference link above try this one:

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/where-democracy-goes-to-die-rule

Posted by: George | Sep 28 2025 5:25 utc | 208

Posted by: George | Sep 28 2025 2:43 utc | 205

It is indeed very weird. No question about it, more social division is a major goal of Trump and also former administrations. I assume the same type of thing is happening in Oz.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Sep 28 2025 5:27 utc | 209

Another crazy idea is the EU using its nukes against Russia assuming the US would back them up.

Kinda like Occupied Palestine using its nukes on Iran assuming the US would back them up.

I have never thought there would be a limited nuclear exchange but sure as hell hope that is the worse we will see…..the shit show continues until it doesn’t.

Don’t think about all that and go to the Xinhuanet link below and see the creative use of drones to light the sky

https://english.news.cn/20250928/3090c18fa67844d58f29691fa54e2881/c.html

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 28 2025 5:54 utc | 210

Posted by: ThouShalt | Sep 28 2025 5:27 utc | 209

It’s happening in many Western countries in Europe, but particularly in the US because Trump is so deliberately divisive*, trying to promote the hard Right and destroy any traditional Left values that could unite the people of the country as they have in the past when people rose up against their repressive leaders as we have witnessed in the a number of revolutions. This fits the needs of the elites he is protecting/serving. You can see how he is trying to do this using Charlie Kirk where there is no evidence that the Left were involved and few people now believe that his death was caused by the accused shooter. It could not have been done with the type of gun used according to ballistic experts (See Larry Johnson’s newest on Sonar21)*. The Left got its name from French government during the 1790s revolution where the people banded together and ended up so infuriated they went absolutely crazy. That’s different to what we see now with the weakening and creation of a fake Left through the media trying to turn it into trivial garbage like support for Ukraine and pushing trans wokism .

It’s happening to a lesser degree in Australia but our leaders are beholden to the same forces and we are driven by US media as well, hence the racist neo-Nazi participation in rallies and blaming of the fire attacks on Jewish synagogues (2 only) on Iran (there’s a good article on that on Grayzone). Australians by and large can’t stand Trump mainly because as a country by nature we tend to despise egotists like him and he has shown little concern for the nation. But the government even though it is the better of two evils is no doubt still following the NATO-US script going the way of Starmer.

*There’s an comment by fustyducker on Larry’s latest article you might be interested in reading too. https://sonar21.com/chris-martenson-decimates-the-various-conspiracy-theories-about-charlie-kirks-murder/

Posted by: George | Sep 28 2025 6:22 utc | 211

Re: Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 28 2025 3:19 utc | 206

All the chatter, all “the wind in the trees”, is moving in the same direction. That is not proof but it is dangerous on its own no matter what is taking place, it is not usual.

I think this is it.

No, you are completely WRONG – there is no decapitation strike in the near future.

Stop scaremongering and think for a minute.

Posted by: Julian | Sep 28 2025 6:37 utc | 212

“people rose up against their repressive leaders as we have witnessed in the a number of revolutions. ”
@George | Sep 28 2025 6:22 utc | 211

No we havent wittnessed ‘a number of revolutions’ like you and many others believe. With the exception of the american revolution all revolutions have been sponsored by the oligarchy. Thus they have not been decided by the people rising up against oppression.
The initial phase of the french revolution was inspired by the US revolution but was soon taken over by the British who directed the french Jacobins and more. The angloamerican establishment under guidance of the British were behind the communist revolutions.
People who have good intentions ought to opt för less egalitarian premises to attain a wellfunctioning system.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Sep 28 2025 6:38 utc | 213

Slovakian parliament passed a law placing national law always above EU laws, claiming back a large part of sovereignty.

https://x.com/ivan_8848/status/1972047851644768551

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 28 2025 6:40 utc | 214

No we havent wittnessed ‘a number of revolutions’ like you and many others believe. With the exception of the american revolution all revolutions have been sponsored by the oligarchy. Thus they have not been decided by the people rising up against oppression.
The initial phase of the french revolution was inspired by the US revolution but was soon taken over by the British who directed the french Jacobins and more. The angloamerican establishment under guidance of the British were behind the communist revolutions.
People who have good intentions ought to opt för less egalitarian premises to attain a wellfunctioning system.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Sep 28 2025 6:38 utc | 213

And the Russian revolution? Putin was produced from this, you know?

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 28 2025 6:46 utc | 215

EUropeans will soon need the same advice to fight off the coming nazis in their country, trying to mobilize them. Better to just leave east EU countries for a few years to see whether they decide to commit suicide or not.

What to do if TCC monsters try to mobilize you?

– We decided to give you useful piece of advice on what to do if you cannot escape, but there are people nearby.
If you see at least two civilians, call them for help. TCC kidnappers are not particularly keen on beating someone up if their fellow citizens come to their aid.
– In this video from Odessa, you can see that “patriots” from TCC decided to flee the scene of the crime immediately after ordinary passers-by came to the aid of the beaten man.
They wanted to leave so badly that they threw one of the witnesses’ phones on the ground…
– Only by uniting we can fight back against the criminals in power. Only then we can free our country from the tyranny of usurpers and dictators!

https://x.com/MKBattalionOf/status/1972189602229244077

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 28 2025 6:51 utc | 216

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 28 2025 5:54 utc | 210

The first one says:

“Pudong (district of Shanghai where the big airport is) welcomes You.”

Further down I make out:

“National Day, a splendid period of prosperity / a golden age now/or approaches”

Further down: “Happy National Day”.

Interesting in comparison to the wishes expressed by most drones over Ukraine and Russia.

Posted by: George | Sep 28 2025 6:55 utc | 217

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Sep 28 2025 6:38 utc | 213

I fully disagree. Nothing is ever singular in cause anyway no matter what forces are involved, and you clearly do not accept much about the French revolution, the Left of the 1790s in French governance, and the 100 years that preceded it, nor the history of social struggles that gave us many freedoms. You cannot get an uprising unless the people are involved and on the streets. Of course more educated people are often the motivators and organizers, as George Orwell points out in many of his books. I am not talking about what happens in governance after, but in the first instance the people unite and are engaged in a revolution and vindication of the previous injustice and overturning the existing governance system. In the ed you just pander to Trump and his elite oligarchic interests.

Posted by: George | Sep 28 2025 7:08 utc | 218

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Sep 28 2025 6:38 utc | 213

Why on earth do you think the European leaders and US leaders are trying to suppress those that demonstrate and stand up for peoples’ legitimate rights? Look what just happened with George Galloway. Why on earth do you think the Right wing media of propaganda is always trying to destroy those that argue for freedom of speech or are people who denounce Zionism or the phony wars that are taking place? Why do you think Trump et al are trying to blame Charlie Kirk’s death on the Left? I’ll tell you: it is because they are scared stiff of the masses banding together to throw them out, same with many in the billionaire class.

Posted by: George | Sep 28 2025 7:16 utc | 219

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Sep 28 2025 6:38 utc | 213

Eh? While Lenin and other revolutionaries dod make their home in London for a while that is very far from the Anglo American establishment being behind the Bolshevik revolution itself.

the political establishment’s policy, particularly under Winston Churchill, was to prevent a Bolshevik takeover and protect economic interests in Russia.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 28 2025 7:46 utc | 220

@George | Sep 28 2025 7:16 utc | 219

Good point.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 28 2025 7:55 utc | 221

Earlier this morning I listened to Glenn Diesens program with Gilbert Doctorow. I was quite surprised by his frankness, possibly because I didn’t know him too well. His take on the current situation is ‘interesting’ (much like in the Chinese curse):

Gilbert Doctorow: Trump Washing His Hands of the Ukraine War

A half hour well spent.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 28 2025 8:01 utc | 222

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 28 2025 7:55 utc | 221

Thanks.

I never can understand why so many argue against the obvious in order to shoot themselves in their own foot. Either that or they are trolls who seek to deceive others over pretty obvious matters.

Posted by: George | Sep 28 2025 8:12 utc | 223

Borzzikman:

EU leaders in panic after Trump told them GL with Russia.

Zelensky in nervous breakdown, health supported by special medication and anti-depressants.

RF foreign intelligence says Zelensky plans drone attacks on Poland and Romania to blame Russia. Also confirmed by Hungarian intelligence.

Medvedev says Russia can destroy all strategic western underground bunkers.

Latest variant of Iskander-1000 deployed in Kaliningrad. This led to Mark Rutte suddenly tone down bellicose rhetoric and declare Nato won’t shoot down Russian planes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIlQgZHx57w

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 28 2025 8:38 utc | 224

@213:”the exception of the american revolution all revolutions have been sponsored by the oligarchy.”

??? the American “revolution” IS a local oligarchic break off from London control.
French Revolution is bourgeois redirection of a complex social protest, where bourgeoisie as well as urban proletariat are driving forces.
Bolshevik revolution start is helped by Germany in order to freeze Eastern Front, but is anyway supported by a massive patriotic surge among peasantry that join Red Army in masse because the foreign troops on Russian soil along the Whites.

Posted by: Timur | Sep 28 2025 8:42 utc | 225

MS/Dima:

Looks like Gerans are put to good use destroying rails in western and south part of Ukraine. A lot of railway electric stations and switches destroyed especially between western Ukraine and Odessa.

RUAF offensive continues north of Pokrovsk. AFU claims they cut this advance into many cauldrons with a million POWs, but they have released no evidence of maintaining or creating a cauldron. Meanwhile there’s plenty of evidence RUAF continues advancing NW/W/N of the cauldron Ukraine claims. It looks more like Ukraine is getting in a cauldron.

RUAF has a 20km long foothold on the western side of Seversky-Donbass canal and is moving closer to the Konstantinovka along this front. They also have a wide front against the Konstantinovka supply road. RUAF can increase losses on the AFU supply assets attempting to go into Konstantinovka.

Seversk in semi-cauldron, RUAF seems to not be in a hurry, they now have no opposition from AFU strikes and can pick-off everything in Seversk and western side. Seversk seems to be boiling.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 28 2025 9:03 utc | 226

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 28 2025 6:46 utc | 215 Hell no, Putin is not a product of the Russian revolution (which means Bolshevik.) Putin is a product of the counterrevolution and he is anti-Communist. Pretty sure that’s exactly what this commenter likes about Putin, but there it is.

@213 is the sort of thing that gives conspiracy theory a bad name.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 28 2025 9:18 utc | 227

@Timur | Sep 28 2025 8:42 utc | 225
You have a vague conception of the oligarchy.
There were two camps, one was liated with Britain but the other broke free. Alexander Hamiltons model if it had lasted was a national economy and not an oligarchy. Unlike oligarchies it attempted to develop internal improvements.
Since the good side had to make compromises with the slave owning side not everything was fixed initially.
The american revolution happened because after some influential american underlings under the mother country actually helped Britain organise its industrialisation (which a historian from India claims was funded by tax money from India because the British were the taxmen there and the British decided over indian imports)
After those americans organising likeminded englishmen in Britain had assisted Britain like that, the oligarchy attempted to prevent america from industrialising itself.
Some americans like Thomas Jefferson was liated with the British and was no patriot at all. Presumably because he was a slave owner owning 600 slaves and that he supported the slaveowning side. That side wanted the US to remain a farming economy and to have no industry. Britain thanks to its industrialisation had qualified industrial jobs and the US wanted to create that for themselves.

“French Revolution is bourgeois redirection of a complex social protest”
No that was what it was intended to look like but it was a colour revolutions entirely controlled from London something the Jacobins confirmed praising their British mentors.
Britain later used Napoleon as their marcher lord against Russia and finally crushed him.

Pointing to Germany as funding the Bolshevik revolution without mentioning how Parvus Helphand in Britains service talked Germany into that decision is the same logic as Nesta Websters false imperial propaganda. The British were behind communism and John Ruskin much earlier explained the rationale: It was about using communist shephards serving under the anglosaxon world government to corral the masses.
Nesta Webster was the daughter of the leader of Barclays bank associated with Opium economy and Websters brother worked for the propaganda Bureau. Britain used the Jews and the Germans to do Britains dirty job and blamed both. Of course Britain also successfull managed to pit Germans Russians and Jews against each other.
And in your perception it seems they still get away with it.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Sep 28 2025 9:19 utc | 228

“Why would this scheme, as Merz say, ‘require budgetary guarantees from member states’? Doesn’t that mean that the tax-payers of those member state will eventually have to pay it? Who’s money is at risk when Russia wins its litigation? Who pays if something goes wrong?”

Is the Key passage.

Merz understands it doesn’t need to be this way. As the ECB creates Euros from thin air.

It comes back to how interest payments are paid on the bonds in the first place.

Yes, you guessed it !

Interest paid by the ECB on their bonds are done exactly the same way. An index finger , a computer keyboard and yes from thin air.

Of course why Merz is questioning why should it be tied to member states instead of the ECB who has the power of the purse. Just by using keystrokes.

Merz understands member states would end up like the right wing nutjob in Argentina.

Argentina,have fixed their currency to the $ and Argentina has taken out massive amounts of $ debt.

That’s what the EURO is to EU member states. As EU member states can’t use an index finger, computer keyboard and keystrokes to create Euros. The Euro is a ” foreign ” currency for them.

In the sane way the $ is a ” foreign ” currency to Argentina.

Member states if the euro debt burden ( Euro interest payments( is imposed on them will have to either

A) Raise taxes to earn the.Euros

Or

B) Slash spending in other areas and budget for the interest payments instead.

Therefore , the only way it will work if they decide to do this is if the ECB do it rather than the member states.

It is a ruse, a huge grift.

It is just an idea to hide the fact that the ECB can fund Ukraine directly and has been funding Ukraine directly.

They are jumping through hoops and doing back flips to try and hide it.

Because if voters across Europe start asking too many questions they will figure out on their own how big a fraud the ” sound money” nonsense is across Europe.

They’ll want to leave and go back to using their own currencies and having bonds in their own currencies.

Argentina will do the same thing as soon as the right wing populist scam of Milie is exposed after loading up Argentina with $ debt. Argentina voters, will be marching back to the Peso and BRICS.

Posted by: Clouds Of Alabama | Sep 28 2025 9:47 utc | 229

It is very important at this point to do a bit of reflection.

The right wing ” sound money ” nutjobs who cheered as one as Melie won the Argentina election.

” slash, burn , slash , take a chain saw to government spending. ” Because they are so thick they think their taxes pay for such spending.

Without realising that would have to be replaced by some other other sector of the Argentina economy that would need to spend more than their income. Or there would be MASSIVE drop in aggregate demand.

That other sector of the Argentina economy would be the private sector. Households and businesses would have to spend more than their income by taking out more bank loans.

To try to keep aggregate demand where it was with the government spending. Never mind trying to increase aggregate demand to create new jobs.

All this trickle down nonsense the right wing populist scam has been tried a hundred times. It ends the same way every time.

The government budget deficit ( private sector surplus) becomes too small to support the credit structure of the economy.

It always ends up with a banking crises. Every time the banks fai!.

The ” sound money ” freaks should have been hoarded up and put up against a wall and shot in 2008.

But they learn nothing and dumb as a bag of spanners. Any NEW information is always wrapped up nicely and swiftly moved into their pre conceived ideological ideas. So they learn absolutely nothing.

Now their hero in Argentina with his gold standard, fixed exchange rate type ideas. Is using $ reserves to fight the Argentina exchange rate. He simply can’t get enough of them. As the Peso gets stronger it starts,to destroy Argentina exports.

Exactly what happened in Russia and their FIXED exchange rate with the $ pre 1997. Until they floated the rouble. They no longer had to prop up the rate with reserves.

That’s always the problem. With FIXED exchange rates and the gold bug conversion theory.

Their hero in Argentina is finding it out in real time. As he persues his ” sound money ” bullshit!

But just watch these ” sound money” morons in action listen to their ideological bull shit.

As they watch what is happening in Argentina and try to move any NEW information into their pre conceived ideological beliefs in their tiny
little minds.

EXACTLY like they did after the 1920’s crash and EXACTLY like they did after 2008.

They are incapable of learning. History is littered with their bullshit.

This right wing populist scam is just getting started to try to keep countries away from BRICS.

Posted by: Clouds Of Alabama | Sep 28 2025 10:17 utc | 230

Of course why the EURO was introduced in the first place.

They take your fiat currency away from you so they can control you. The treaties embedded in the ” sound money” wet dream then assest strip you and the foreign debt ( in euros) does the rest.

Milie in Argentina has just implemented the exact same ” sound money” blueprint. Using the $ rather than the Euro.

Removing full monetary sovereignty from Argentina EXACTLY in the same way Brussels removed full monetary sovereignty from EU member states.

Remove their sovereignty. Their sovereign currency that can be created at will. Replace it with a foreign currency and bank lending.

Load them up with foreign bonds that they can never pay back without bailouts and moving them ever further rightwards. Until everything is privatised by western oligarchs via bank lending.

From which they can extract rent.

The ideology of the right who have brainwashed right wing voters that they are doing it for their liberty and their freedom. Their conservative values.

Like a bunch of sheep being herded to the sheep dip to be dipped. These fools stand in line in voting booths and actually believe the capitalist is working for them.

Posted by: Clouds Of Alabama | Sep 28 2025 10:33 utc | 231

Posted by: Clouds Of Alabama | Sep 28 2025 10:33 utc | 231

You are making some very clear and perceptive observationally-based arguments that explain the situation very well. Thank you.

“The ideology of the right who have brainwashed right wing voters that they are doing it for their liberty and their freedom. Their conservative values.

Like a bunch of sheep being herded to the sheep dip to be dipped. These fools stand in line in voting booths and actually believe the capitalist is working for them.”

Exactly, it’s like they are voting for the Right because it is ‘trending’. Most of them would not know what Right or Left actually stood for originally, nor do they understand how they are being duped. Almost like a form of absent-minded Stockholm syndrome.

Posted by: George | Sep 28 2025 11:00 utc | 232

“Because if voters across Europe start asking too many questions they will figure out on their own how big a fraud the ” sound money” nonsense is across Europe

Posted by: Clouds Of Alabama | Sep 28 2025 9:47 utc | 229

“Gold is money. Everything else is credit.”

JP Morgan 1912

Posted by: canuk | Sep 28 2025 11:13 utc | 233

Is anyone else kind of hoping they do it so we can get the EU collapse properly kicked off?

Posted by: keywacat | Sep 29 2025 8:58 utc | 234

Hey Cloud/ Moon/Sun of Alabama.  Be more succinct with your post:, and quit being so autistic about MMT.  That’s advice I know will go unheeded but you should learn.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Sep 30 2025 6:41 utc | 235