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August 25, 2025
Ukraine – Zelenski Rejects Giving Land As Fascists Promise To Kill Him

The (former) President Zelenski of Ukraine is refusing any compromise in negotiations with Russia. He would be killed and replaced by a more right wing figure if he would consider otherwise.

In a speech on Sunday marking Ukraine's independence Zelenski insisted of recapturing all of Ukraine including Crimea.

As the Washington Post summarizes (archived):

In Kyiv on Sunday, Ukraine’s Independence Day, Zelensky addressed the nation and vowed to restore its territorial integrity.

“Ukraine will never again be forced in history to endure the shame that the Russians call a ‘compromise,’” he said. “We need a just peace.”

He listed some of the regions occupied by Russia — including Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea — and said “no temporary occupation” could change the fact that the land belongs to Ukraine.

Zelenski thus rejects calls by U.S. President Trump to give up Ukrainian territory in exchange for peace.

One reason why he does so may be the personal danger he is in. Any compromise about territory may well cost his life.

The London Times continues to make propaganda for Nazis. After a recent whitewashing interview with Azov Nazi leader Biletsky (archived) it yesterday published an interview with the former leader of the fascist Right Sector in Odessa Serhii Sterneneko.

‘Russia has repeatedly tried to kill me — I must be doing something right’ (archived)

Sterneneko had a leading role in the 2014 massacres in Maidan Square and at the Trade Union's House in Odessa. The Times is whitewashing his participation in those events. It does not mind to publish his threats against Zelenski:

[A]mong Ukraine’s younger generation of soldiers and civilians, Sternenko’s brand of truth to power has wide popularity. “I say what I think, and people like what I say.”

His views on President Putin’s demand for Ukraine to cede the territory it defends in the eastern Donbas region as a precondition for possible peace are typically direct. “If [President] Zelensky were to give any unconquered land away, he would be a corpse — politically, and then for real,” Sternenko said. “It would be a bomb under our sovereignty. People would never accept it.”

Sternenko, who himself has avoided the draft, wants the war to go on forever:

Indeed, as he discussed Russian intransigence and President Trump’s efforts to end the war, Sternenko’s thoughts on the possibility of peace appeared to be absent of any compromise over Ukrainian soil.

“At the end there will only be one victor, Russia or Ukraine,” he said. “If the Russian empire continues to exist in this present form then it will always want to expand. Compromise is impossible. The struggle will be eternal until the moment Russia leaves Ukrainian land.”

Other British media continue to promote the rise of Nazi affiliated figures in Ukraine. The Guardian adds by promoting the presidential campaign of the former Ukrainian general and now ambassador to the UK Valeri Zaluzhny:

In private conversations, Zaluzhnyi has not confirmed he plans to go into politics, but he has allowed himself to speculate on what kind of platform he could propose if he does make the decision. Those close to him say he sees Israel as a model, despite its current bloody actions in Gaza, viewing it as a small country surrounded by enemies and fully focused on defence.

He would style himself as a tough, wartime leader who would promise “blood, sweat and tears” to the Ukrainian people in return for saving the nation, channelling Winston Churchill. In one private conversation, he said: “I don’t know if the Ukrainian people will be ready for that, ready for these tough policies.”

A day before being fired as the commander of the Ukrainian army Zaluzhny took a selfie with the leader of the fascist Right Sector and commander of Right Sector brigade of Ukrainian military in front of a portrait of Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera and the fascist OUN flag.


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The picture was already part of his campaign to become the leader of a Bandera-ized Ukraine.

It seems that the British deep-state does its best to support him in that.

Comments

Thanks for this reminder of Ukraine’s fascisti and the need for denazification.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 25 2025 15:07 utc | 1

you can see why the uk, usa and friends got into bed with these fanatic zealots.. once you are in a pack with them, there is no way out, other then death… nice death cult the west is supporting….
there must be a large financial component to this ongoing conflict.. someone or group of people are making a huge amount of money and don’t want it to stop.. money over people – again a death cult with a financial design to it..
the uk press has been very good at whitewashing the truth..
thanks b for the update… i don’t see any obvious way out for ukraine, zelensky or any other nazi follower here.. i wish i did..same deal for russia essentially..

Posted by: james | Aug 25 2025 15:07 utc | 2

you’re the best b

Posted by: annie | Aug 25 2025 15:10 utc | 3

james, the obvious way out for ukraine is denazification. it’s really the only way.

Posted by: annie | Aug 25 2025 15:12 utc | 4

I hope the Ukrainians can “teach” these scum some lessons before the Russians do, Death is too kind for them. 😤

Posted by: Dingleberry | Aug 25 2025 15:12 utc | 5

@ annie | Aug 25 2025 15:12 utc | 4
i can’t see these nazis having their picture taken with future presidents being receptive to this idea… one way to resolve this would be for the west and friends to acknowledge the reality of a nazi cult in ukraine, and recognize denazification as a legitimate demand to reach an end to this conflict.. i can’t see that happening any time soon either.. essentially russia will have to continue on the battlefield..
i wonder how these nazi freaks deal with a losing game of monopoly? do they just toss the board like real losers, or how do these deal with a loss like the one that are facing here??
maybe Sternenko and macron can team up? lol… how did this freak sternenko avoid the draft?? if they want the fighting and death cult to continue, let them go work it out on the battlefield… otherwise these 2 are a couple of first rate sissy’s and an embarrassment to any claim to nazi status, lol..

Posted by: james | Aug 25 2025 15:21 utc | 6

Mark Carney’s Speech on Ukraine’s Independence Day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppp_F5yj-9s
“Putin can be stopped. Canada will be there. Your fight is our fight. Slava Ukraini! Vive le Canada!”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 25 2025 15:22 utc | 7

Thanx b for reminding me of a few documentaries & in-depth reports on Ukraine from around 10-15 years ago, (before it was all memory-holed & history rewritten)
Have been following a young dude from Mariupol on Boosty & YouTube recently, thoughtful observations from a teen growing into a young adult during these times, especially on the language propaganda.
https://youtu.be/aeErTGC-sK0?si=ULQhmkJg4gZL_F4h

Posted by: Rain | Aug 25 2025 15:24 utc | 8

Took me awhile after traveling yesterday to publish, “Lavrov on Meet the Press”, the full 54-minute transcript. My commentary after the transcript will suffice for that. Now I’ll read what b had to write and comment if needed.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 25 2025 15:27 utc | 9

All statements by Trump are kabuki.
Trump just lied for months to everyone about Iran before trying to destroy the country in front of the world.
He’s that guy who gives up and then tries to stab from behind.
Zelensky is actually a good guy in comparison. He has no guile. He says what he feels. It’s ugly but it is honest.
Nothing meaningful has changed from a year ago except Ukraine has fewer troops and the West is poorer.
Ukraine = Israel. They aren’t going to negotiate. The doors are welded shut and this ride has no brakes.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 25 2025 15:27 utc | 10

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 25 2025 15:22 utc | 7
Some of my Canadian friends are impressed by stunts like this. Pathetic

Posted by: Chris N | Aug 25 2025 15:29 utc | 11

It’s not Zelensky’s Choice, nor IMF, etc. In 2014 Crimea and several Donbass oblasts held e vote to rejoin Russia over 10 long years ago. The Russian government considered their requests and approved them, welcoming them back into Russia. The fact is when US violently overthrew Ukraine’s unelected government in 2014, most in E. Ukraine had voted for the man they removed. US never asked the oblasts’ opinion before violently removing their leader.
BBC doesn’t have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. In third world style its NHS treatment rooms are loaded with maggots. My boat is full, so sorry.

Posted by: susan mullen | Aug 25 2025 15:36 utc | 12

Predictions are hard..especially when they deal with the future…not really this was pretty obvious
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After some thought on the subject, my speculation on the Assembly of Putin and Trump in Anchorage is:
I think the “deal” is a “no-deal” and by that I mean Trump & Putin in show of unity agree to do a “basket-of-swaps” deal. Zelinsky, at the urging of EU’s choir of quislings and the insistence of Waffen SS of Galicia rejects the offer. Trump, with his newly acquired political cover then cuts off support in a now “justified” retaliation leaving the quisling choir and the Waffen SS to fight on. [The next sound you’ll here is fattened rodents scampering down the wharf’s mooring with their carpet bags of cash]. Russia is given the green light to finish the job while Trump washes the blood of Hillary/Obama/Sullivan-Blinken off his hands like a latter day Pontius Pilate. Then the war grinds on while Trump berates the EU-quislings for not living up to their pledges of support. At some point Russia brings the thing to halt at an unpublished but predetermined line with/without an armistice.
Hopefully, Russia will start making an effort to get behind enemy lines and start entrapping the blocking forces comprised of Galicia’s Waffen SS or…every ethnic/cultural-Russ/Slovak/Hungarian in ex-ukraina will have to killed before the Galicians are forced to face Russian arms and…immediately surrender
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Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 11 2025 18:40 utc | 58

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 25 2025 15:41 utc | 13

I have long suspected that Netanyahu and Israel were models for NATO in Ukraine. Let’s not forget that most neocons are first and foremost Zionists. Netanyahu is almost certainly Zelensky’s role model.
What’s intriguing is whether the neocons will find an ardent Zionist to anoint as leader of the fight against China…

Posted by: JohnH | Aug 25 2025 15:42 utc | 14

Thanks for the posting b
It is the continued projection that needs to be countered, IMO

“If the Russian empire continues to exist in this present form then it will always want to expand.

When are the public going to scream out “We are not all genocidal maniacs wanting to rule everyone and everything!”

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 25 2025 15:43 utc | 15

Hey, b, would it be asking too much for you to refer to Zelenski as AmeriKKKa’s Ukraine Puppet President?
After all, when Biden warned Putin not to invade Ukraine after the Dumbass Yankees invited Ukraine to join NATO, and after Victoria Nuland’s 2014 regime-change plot, it should have been obvious that the HQ of Ukraine.gov are in Washington DC?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 25 2025 15:46 utc | 16

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 22nd August 2025: May be Useful Some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-639

Posted by: The Busker | Aug 25 2025 15:48 utc | 17

Spot on Susan Mullen 12 !
It would be good to have a single [non-3LA/Langley-Affiliated] site that had the voting history of the oblasts in ex-ukrainia

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 25 2025 16:02 utc | 18

The English think it’s ok to support them cheap ukrop nazies ’cause them cheap ukrop nazies are weak and pathetic underdogs.
Whereas Russia, uh, Russia is big and dangerous.
So yeah, they support weak and pathetic to go and crash against big and powerful.
That’s the thinking of the English.
It makes some sense, problem is, them English are spending a lot of money and material supporting weak and pathetic versus big and dangerous for no gain since weak and pathetic becomes weaker and more pathetic while big and dangerous become bigger and more dangerous.
But the English cannot think straight ’cause they’re dumbified by mediocre leadership.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 25 2025 16:06 utc | 19

Lavrov did a good job of noting the Nazi character of Ukraine and the fact that the Outlaw US Empire brought those Nazis to power in 2014 as I noted in my comments. What b has provided is additional backing for Lavrov’s facts and proof that Zelensky’s merely a puppet of the Nazis standing behind him with a pistol at his neck, and that they’re also backed by his supposed European friends and allies.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 25 2025 16:09 utc | 20

It might be time for the former president to secure his money. Announce a vote and right after the day the the vote happend take a plane to somewhere and enjoy his billions for the rest of his life. With some luck the war goes on for a year or two and people have forgotten him.

Posted by: Tuk | Aug 25 2025 16:10 utc | 21

The UK press has a long association of supporting Nazis, fascists and other right-wing scum. It is well documented that the Daily Mail and Daily Express wrote editorials supporting Hitler and Nazi Germany. The UK’s now dead, much loved (by the Establishment and working class people with false political consciousness) queen, was photographed giving the Nazi salute and almost all the press found reasons to excuse and explain this.
The press continues to deify nazi leaders like Zelensky and Zahlushny and fall over themselves to welcome leaders of Occupied Palestine despite the on-going genocide. I’m against the death penalty but I wouldn’t protest too much if it were re-introduced for the likes of Zelensky, Bibi and their acolytes when they eventually face trial for their crimes

Posted by: Vragtes | Aug 25 2025 16:18 utc | 22

Posted by: james | Aug 25 2025 15:07 utc | 2
someone or group of people are making a huge amount of money and don’t want it to stop..

Sure, the Russian defense industries are making a lot of money.
But that’s secondary to Russian State’s gains in territory, natural resources, and population.
Though perhaps you were thinking of winners in the West?
Nobody has yet calculated which side is making more off of this war, though I doubt that any private company in the West is winning more than the Russian state or any of the large Russian conglomerates.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 25 2025 16:18 utc | 23

Following up from comment 13/58 this from Tyler Durden website who’s links are censored here:
Vice President JD Vance appeared on Sunday’s Meet the Press on NBC where he presented a generally positive view of Russia-Ukraine peace efforts. Vance [stated]: “I think the Russians have made significant concessions to President Trump for the first time in three and a half years of this conflict,” – Source: Associated Press…Some observers have pointed out, however, that it’s a major concession for Moscow to even be engaged in peace dialogue at all, given that by pretty much all metrics it is dominant and winning on the battlefield. It’s a concession in its own right for the winning side to even be talking at all…”They’ve actually been willing to be flexible on some of their core demands. They’ve talked about what would be necessary to end the war. Of course, they haven’t been completely there yet, or the war would be over. But we’re engaging in this diplomatic process in good faith,” Vance continued
So there it is, Russia is being reasonable, Zelenski is not. Now, we just have to wait for the “throw-up-our-hands-in-disgust” scene, flash “The-End” and then roll the credits.
Now, if Russia would stop with the effing-attritional-warfare $h!t and get down to the business of annihilating the modern-day-Gallician-SS, those who are actually responsible for the war in the first place. Yes..yes..DoS & Langley/MI-6/Mossad funded/armed the effing-Nazis but…without them, no war.

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 25 2025 16:22 utc | 24

Gehlenskyi : 404’s new Gauleiter 🙂
The fun thing is ze Germans Kanzler seems to love him so much :p.
I loved it when the western press ranted about the Russian election in the Novorossia : https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-occupied-election-voting-arrests-eb0b0d872cf55e561dc221bbc53d63d4
The west : We said no election during wartime !
The Russians : Wanna vote anyway ?
The Novorussians : You know what ? I think I’m gonna vote even harder !
Votes for VVP : Donetsk : 95% , Lugansk : 94% Crimea : 93.5% Zaporozhie : 92% Kherson : 88%.
I’m not sure Svoboda ever had a 88% vote … more like a 14% in Lvov. :p:p:p

Posted by: Savonarole | Aug 25 2025 16:30 utc | 25

The British love their Ukrainian Neo-Nazi’s – and they will back them to the end.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 25 2025 16:33 utc | 26

Johan Kaspar | Aug 25 2025 16:18 utc | 23–
The vast majority of Russia’s MIC is owned by Russians via the government. Some small and medium enterprises (SMEs) are privately owned and are clearly profiting from the state’s expenditure. Since Putin has announced that defense procurements as a percentage of GDP will fall over the next few years back to the pre-SMO level of about 3%. That will free up additional budgetary monies to put toward national development. The SMEs will need to focus their output to civilian products as Putin stated several times during the expansion of military spending that when it ends they’ll need to make that conversion. Russian and Chinese MICs aren’t like those in the West as they’re owned by the people, not private corporations that might be able to say they’re “publicly owned” because they’re listed on stock markets and are thus required to divulge their financial information to the public.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 25 2025 16:40 utc | 27

@ Johan Kaspar | Aug 25 2025 16:18 utc | 23
i was thinking of both sides, but more the west, then russia.. this has been pushed on russia for a number of reasons, including the financial angle.. all wars are this way most of the time, although they get presented differently to the masses.. smedley butler summed it up well a long time ago..

Posted by: james | Aug 25 2025 16:40 utc | 28

Savonarole 25, that report did not appear to have anybody actually there “on the ground”?
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Republicofscotland 26, I was not aware that the Waffen SS of Galicia had a big following in Scotland & Wales?

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 25 2025 16:42 utc | 29

regarding the nazi angle – here is a headline from rt right now –
Poland could ban naturalization of Ukrainian Nazi sympathizers
The country’s citizenship law should reject the ideology of Stepan Bandera, President Karol Nawrocki has said

Posted by: james | Aug 25 2025 16:42 utc | 30

@9
Thanks the Russian MFA print is worth the read.
On security guarantees Lavrov succinctly calls out EU “divisible” security for rump Kiev, being a dagger at Russia’s throat.
Russia insists on indivisible security in the Eastern Europe environs.
NATO and Nazis need to go.

Posted by: paddy | Aug 25 2025 16:46 utc | 31

I have to imagine ukie forces are about ready to mutiny, and hardcore nazi field commanders are turning up dead somewhat regularly. The Russians will know how to encourage that, while also providing a semi-safe path for surrender. Unfortunately, that’s still attrition warfare, so the killing goes on. Russia may have to make Ukraine go dark this Winter. It will be very expensive, and they will be pilloried as war criminals, but it may be the only way to engage the population to demand a settlement.

Posted by: seer | Aug 25 2025 16:54 utc | 32

So ZioDon walks away. How convenient for our Ruling Class and their masters to get rid of someone and blame it on the Nazis. Everyone is a proxy for something.Whay a country the US is. 9/11 truth is surely coming soon.

Posted by: So | Aug 25 2025 16:56 utc | 33

“Ukraine will never again be forced in history to endure the shame that the Russians call a ‘compromise,’” he said.

I guess he’s right, since the Russians won’t offer any compromises when they have to conquer the entire country to end the war, and there won’t be a Ukraine anymore to endure shame.

Posted by: Phelps | Aug 25 2025 17:02 utc | 34

Just spit-balling here. Russia may never, or at least not for a long time, make it impossible for uniformed soldiers to gather in US backed and led former state of Ukraine because then we might see state backed lone wolves go to terror phase. It’s probably easier to process them in batches like they’re doing now.

Posted by: chunga | Aug 25 2025 17:04 utc | 35

James 30,
Those Poles are sooooo touchy…and just because the Waffen SS of Galicia slaughtered ethnic Poles with such brutality that Nazis winced at the spectacle? Clearly the Poles are being unreasonable? Anyway, that’s all in the past..let bygones be bygones, gotta live in the future. As one overly-prolific commenter here said yesterday, after seeing history being posted:
The past is of no use, the past can teach nothing about the future! – Naive 67

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 25 2025 17:06 utc | 36

I must admit it’s hard to tell who Zelensky is lying to, the Ukrainian people or Trump. As near as I can tell, this seems to be laying the groundwork for a truce or frozen war a la the Koreas. Fascist Ukraine will keep it’s long term aspiration to rule all Novorossiya. War and conquest (or the hopes thereof) are the reason the bourgeoisie goes fascist.
As to whether Trump is ending the US involvement in the war? Plainly stating that Trump/Putin summit really accepted revision of the 1991 borders of Ukraine would be a necessity. If such a statement is simply ignored, then Trump is not committed to a settlement. But given the after summit with Zelensky et al., the fact that Zelensky felt bold enough to make this declaration strongly suggests to me that Trump didn’t tell Zelensky he was committed a land-for-peace deal.
I think our host is wrong to put so much weight on the power of the Ukrainian fascists, as if they were truly separate from either the Ukrainian armed forces and government, or from the CIA and so on. The politics of the security services, whether intelligence, military or police, trends very strongly to the right. The fascist elements in Ukraine I suspect are fellow travelers with factions of the three letter agencies. When fascists openly threaten to kill Zelensky, they are supported not just by Western media, they are supported by their friends in the US military and embassy and the CIA too. Or so I think.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 25 2025 17:09 utc | 37

Russians have made significant concessions to President Trump for the first time in three and a half years of this conflict,”
Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 25 2025 16:22 utc | 24
They sure did. Then Trumpy claimed he’s denuclearizing Russia and then he’ll denuclearize China too ( tass.com/world/2007231 ). Then he said US still has more nukes. Now the entertainment factor is high again, what did the most fooled president sign in Alaska? What did the most orange president get? Was Lavrov high when he said China will offer security guarantees but then China denied that any such fantasies will ever happen? Grandma watching Young and Restless must have felt the same

Posted by: rk | Aug 25 2025 17:16 utc | 38

Very likely, the fascists are actually acting at the behest of U.S. CIA.
It seems that the CIA is a global promoter of extremism (to include terrorism) and acts without regard (to pretty-much anything, but to include) boundaries and is now self-financing (avoids uncomfortable (for us) questions).
Sometimes they are useful – or so it is claimed (who knows).

Posted by: jared1089 | Aug 25 2025 17:20 utc | 39

Rk 38,
May I suggest:
Vance [stated]:”Russians have made significant concessions to President Trump for the first time in three and a half years of this conflict” Source: Associated Press
– S Brennan 24
That way, the reader won’t confuse me quoting the VPs statement with the writing in my post.

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 25 2025 17:27 utc | 40

Trump claims he spoke with Putin in Alaska about “denuclearization” and says “Russia is willing to do it”

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1960026952619741482
Why is anyone still listening to ANYTHING that Trump says except as entertainment?
The oval office presser today is hilarious. Pure comedy.
Trump, evoking Hillary’s “landing under gunfire,” says that when he went to the DPRK guns were pointing at him. LOL
American politicians are batshit crazy.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 25 2025 17:29 utc | 41

The only certain way to make the hardcore nazis flip is to cut off their cash flow. Hitler had to pay his supporters in the officer corps direct, and the Blob is doing similarly. That’s why Carney went there. That Bank of England cunt is the messenger boy, telling the nazis that their paychecks are still coming.

Posted by: seer | Aug 25 2025 17:29 utc | 42

S Brennan (29).
There are many folk in Scotland, and dare I say Wales – that are unaware of Ukraine’s links to old Nazism and Neo-Nazism, they blindly follow what the MSM and the politicians say, the colonial administration in Scotland at Holyrood also parrots the Ukraine good – Russia bad trope, and again dare I say it, the Senedd in Wales does the same, another colonial administration.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 25 2025 17:32 utc | 43

And what about this?
https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-allies-secret-talks-volodymyr-zelenskyy-opposition-ukraine-elections-yulia-tymoshenko-petro-poroshenko/
https://news.liga.net/en/politics/news/guardian-vance-called-zaluzhnyi-after-quarrel-with-zelensky-he-refused-to-talk
I’m sure the americans like openly fascists just as much, and have a lot more influence.
So why is B so focussed on the Brits?
Since long a mere sidekick of the US banana republic

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Aug 25 2025 17:34 utc | 44

A delusional madman, sending out a clarion call to other delusional madmen and women.
“Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky has claimed that his country can be considered the foundation of Western unity. His comments come amid strained relations between Washington and Brussels over defense spending issues and further military aid to Kiev.
In a Telegram post on Sunday, Zelensky said “Ukraine can in a single day gather and unite the world’s leaders around itself.” He further claimed that Kiev has “restored the unity of Europe and the US and now serves as the foundation of this alliance.””

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 25 2025 17:40 utc | 45

Russia destroys NAZI Ukraine.. and
Iran destroys apartheid Israel..
Two ideologies that have infected and taken control of the nation state system and attempted to use the awesome powers of national governments and mind control propaganda to attempt to take control of the world by any means possible.
The people governed by the nation state systems are just now discovering they are going to need to find a vaccine.
Both of these ideologies are British inventions designed to hide their colonial purposes.

Posted by: snake | Aug 25 2025 17:51 utc | 46

Not to worry – the British government will take as many Ukrainian Neo-Nazi’s in as humanly possible, the Brits love their Nazi’s.
“Polish President Karol Nawrocki wants to amend the country’s citizenship law to say that the naturalization of Ukrainian nationalists is undesirable.
Warsaw and Kiev have long been involved in a dispute over crimes committed by nationalists during World War II and their lionization in modern Ukraine.
During a press conference on Monday, Nawrocki weighed in on recently-adopted changes to the citizenship law, and said his office was working on additional amendments. He said the law should include the slogan “stop Banderism,” referring to the ideology of Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 25 2025 17:57 utc | 47

Machine translation of Trump’s comment.
“Look you dumb as f*ck Europeans – I’ve got an invasion of Venezuela coming up and I have to protect the Zio-Monsters – whilst they commit genocide, so you weak minded European puppets, had better get all your cash out to help protect the Neo-Nazi dictatorship in Ukraine, and f*ck your own citizens, and their welfare, you must buying weapons from our MIC, which comes first – to the Brits, I don’t need to tell you to throw your own citizens under the bus, to protect the Neo-Nazi’s in Ukraine, I know you love them to bits – and will do your best, to help the Neo-Nazi’s.
—————-
“Europe must take the lead in providing “significant security guarantees” to Ukraine, US President Donald Trump said on Monday. Washington’s role will be supportive rather than primary, he stressed.
“Europe is going to give them significant security guarantees — and they should, because they’re right there,” Trump told reporters at the Oval Office. He added that Washington would remain involved “from the standpoint of backup.”
This isn’t the first time Trump has clarified Washington’s role in resolving the Ukraine conflict. Speaking in the Oval Office last week with Vladimir Zelensky, Trump was asked if security guarantees for Kiev could involve US troops.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 25 2025 18:04 utc | 48

***** @12 @18
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If interested here is source and data on Ukraine 2012 election by oblast. The link contains data and maps showing graphical distribution. Data provided in sort of a table but can’t align properly.
UKRAINE PARLIAMENT ELECTION RESULTS
source and data
https://www.electoralgeography.com/new/en/countries/u/ukraine/ukraine-legislative-election-2012.html
Electoral Geography 2.0
Mapped politics
Main Content RSS Feed
Ukraine Ukraine. Legislative Election 2012
By Alex Kireev
Sorry can’t align the numbers but the five numeric columns for all Ukraine and each of the oblasts for results of the 2012 Parliament elections are:
Party of Regions Fatherland UDAR Communist Freedom
Ukraine 30.01 25.53 13.96 13.18 10.44
Crimea 52.34 13.09 7.16 19.41 1.04
Vinnytsia region 17.38 44.95 13.35 8.85 8.40
Volyn region 12.92 39.46 15.96 6.97 17.98
Dnipropetrovsk region 35.79 18.38 14.61 19.38 5.19
Donetsk region 65.09 5.26 4.71 18.85 1.20
Zhytomyr region 21.60 36.16 14.19 12.82 7.47
Zakarpats`ka region 30.87 27.69 20.02 5.03 8.35
Zaporizhzhia region 40.95 14.93 12.40 21.16 3.85
Ivano-Frankivsk region 5.19 38.21 15.25 1.78 33.79
Kyiv region 20.67 36.63 18.73 6.11 10.85
Kirovohrad region 26.25 32.16 14.87 13.46 6.21
Luhansk region 57.06 5.49 4.74 25.14 1.29
Lviv region 4.70 35.49 14.44 1.99 38.01
Kyiv 12.60 30.96 25.47 7.21 17.32
Sevastopol 46.90 5.86 5.04 29.46 1.37
Mykolaiv region 40.46 16.93 12.49 19.09 4.30
Odesa region 41.90 15.49 13.77 18.16 3.30
Poltava region 21.91 30.14 18.47 13.49 7.94
Rivne region 15.80 36.59 17.25 6.21 16.63
Sumy region 21.09 36.27 16.71 12.24 6.37
Ternopil region 6.40 39.04 14.67 1.92 31.22
Kharkiv region 40.97 15.22 12.82 20.84 3.83
Kherson region 29.34 21.78 13.63 23.34 4.71
Khmelnyts region 18.69 37.71 16.33 8.81 11.79
Cherkasy region 18.71 37.77 17.25 9.28 9.46
Chernivtsi region 20.77 39.60 19.13 5.46 8.71
Chernihiv region 20.09 30.73 12.91 13.20 5.98

Posted by: Jerr | Aug 25 2025 18:07 utc | 49

Last week, freelance journalist Katie Livingstone claimed that Zaluzhny was “quietly preparing a run for president – in direct opposition to Zelensky.” She quoted an unnamed source as suggesting that his team had “effectively begun” an unofficial PR campaign.
Zaluzhny’s press representative was quick to deny the speculation.
A survey of 1,000 people in Ukraine conducted July 4-5 by ‘Rating’ indicated that the former commander-in-chief was trusted by 73% of respondents. That would put him in first place among political figures in the country, with Zelensky trailing six percentage points behind, the poll suggested.
Another survey by a different pollster in late June showed that 41% of Ukrainians believed the country was drifting toward authoritarianism.
Zelensky’s presidential term expired in May 2024, but he has refused to hold new elections, citing martial law. The Kremlin insists that the Ukrainian leader has lost legitimacy.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 25 2025 18:08 utc | 50

Zelenski’s speeches are beginning to resemble those of the Comical Ali,the minister of information in the regime of Saddam Hussein in Iraq war.

Posted by: surena | Aug 25 2025 18:10 utc | 51

. i don’t see any obvious way out for ukraine, zelensky or any other nazi follower here.. i wish i did..same deal for russia essentially..
Posted by: james | Aug 25 2025 15:07 utc | 2
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The way out for Ukraine is to be liberated from the fascists—that is, via the SMO.
That is the reason for the SMO.
The Soviet Union/Russia was/is the best friend Ukraine has ever had.
Russia must gain control of all Ukraine and then hold elections. Russia-friendly candidates will win.
Zelensky’s personal problems are not Ukraine’s problems.
He’ll have to solve these himself.
Option 1: Leave Ukraine now and go to Zionistan. Wear green T-Shirt and volunteer to fight in Gaza.
Option 2: Leave Ukraine now and go to USA. Wear designer green T-shirt.
Option 3: Leave Ukraine now and go to Russia. Get a decent, dark suit and melt into the crowd.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 25 2025 18:11 utc | 52

Interesting and might put alaska in focus. (and biden’s regency role in the SMO and how it can be reversed)
That’s google’s take on root causes, april 2021 is the factor it factors most, interesting…
“The risk to a USA-Russia federation military exchange is currently high due to ongoing US sanctions on Russia for its harmful foreign activities, as detailed in Executive Order 14024. This order allows the US to block assets of individuals and entities operating in certain Russian economic sectors, creating significant risk for financial transactions. The context of these sanctions is tied to the broader crisis in Ukraine, although this specific order is separate from the Ukraine-related emergency, according to the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC).
Key Risks and Reasons:
US Sanctions:
Executive Order 14024 allows the US government to sanction any entity or individual involved in certain Russian economic sectors.
Financial Transaction Risk:
Any transaction involving US financial institutions or entities with sanctioned Russian partners carries a high risk of being blocked or otherwise penalized.
National Emergency Status:
The sanctions stem from a declared national emergency concerning Russia’s harmful foreign activities.
Evolving Regulations:
New executive orders and amendments, such as E.O. 14114, continue to update and expand the scope of these sanctions, indicating a dynamic and potentially increasing risk environment, notes the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC).
In summary, a military exchange between the USA and the Russian Federation is considered high-risk due to the comprehensive sanctions in place, which are designed to limit Russia’s economic activities and are enforced by the U.S. government. ”

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 25 2025 18:11 utc | 53

I suppose poor ol’ Prokopenko is feeling neglected! The poor dear!
Anyone got any update on the Karelian fascist?

Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 25 2025 18:12 utc | 54

Zelensky comes from an academic family and studied law without practising afterwards, just like many German politicians.
The Ukrainian constitution has already been amended several times in order to legalise the realignment of politics.
But why has the ‘extension’ of Zelensky’s presidency not yet been made possible by a constitutional amendment?
Has nobody in Ukraine thought of this? Or are such thoughts undesirable, but Ukraine’s ‘inability to act’ desirable? Whoever concludes contracts with Zelensky must be an idiot or must want to screw Ukraine. Zelensky guarantees abstruse deals to those who guarantee his security and financial future at the same time.

Posted by: BlindSpot | Aug 25 2025 18:21 utc | 55

A pan-European security framework that embraces Russia & its neighbors, rather than excludes some of them, makes good sense. Most notably, any pan-European security architecture would by necessity have to include the largest country on the continent; to fail in this would be epically non-productive. The resistance of Euro-leaders to discuss this publicly suggests they still have Russian Containment top of mind, as the earliest of NATO planners devised in the 1950s surely did.
The only way to end the war & secure a lasting peace is to hammer out a security framework which factors in both Russia’s concerns/needs and those of Ukraine.
Zelensky’s comments on Independence Day make obvious how far his thoughts are from these practicalities. The behavior of the Euro-pups in the Oval w/ DJT last week—their slobbering over military-intensive security guarantees—make clear that they are far from motivated.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Aug 25 2025 18:24 utc | 56

Thank you for this thread!
The radical nature of this war is finally revealed. Zelensky will never negotiate or compromise. He must be removed by force.
Beyond that, the situation is dangerous for Russia because the war shows no signs of ending. They are willing to sacrifice the whole nation – and I don’t see that Russia can afford that. All this talk of collapse is just talk. They can always find a few more bullets or draft women or kids.
I’m trying to visualize an end to this and I can’t. Capturing Donbass, etc. means nothing as regards an end to the war. Imagine Imperial Japan if they never bombed Hiroshima or had an emperor to say, ‘enough’.

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 25 2025 18:27 utc | 57

Russia destroys NAZI Ukraine.. and
Iran destroys apartheid Israel..
. . .
Both of these ideologies are British inventions designed to hide their colonial purposes.
Posted by: snake | Aug 25 2025 17:51 utc | 46
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In a nutshell!

Posted by: Jane | Aug 25 2025 18:28 utc | 58

@ S Brennan | Aug 25 2025 17:06 utc | 36
it would be nice if there was some honesty on the part of western politicians on this specific dynamic that continues to be at play in ukraine.. presently it has all been white washed our of existance… at least the polish leader is giving it lip service….
@ Jane | Aug 25 2025 18:11 utc | 52
i agree with you.. a continuation of the smo is all that i can think of here, unless the west has a change of mind/heart.. i can’t see that at present…

Posted by: james | Aug 25 2025 18:36 utc | 59

The war will go on until the EU/UK collapses economically. Europe is not sustainable. It depends on how much money the west uses to delay the day when they have to admit the loss. The western elites are perfectly willing to destroy their own countries to support Ukraine. Its ideology.

Posted by: Kaiama | Aug 25 2025 18:42 utc | 60

Posted by: jared1089 | Aug 25 2025 17:20 utc | 39 I suggest there is more spiritual kinship between the security services and fascism than the usual employer/employee relationship. CIA etc. join fascists to unite and build, while their agents work to divide and wreck communist organizations. At least, that’s how it seems to me.
As to the self-financing? Yes, there is a certain degree of that. But I suggest that much of it is still under the top appointed bureaucrats’ control and the off-the-books money is there for plausible deniability. And I suggest that much of that which is not under control, that truly is independent of the state it sprang from, is ineffective precisely because it is in the covert operator’s hands…and they’re stealing the money, rather than pursuing the original goals.
For instance, Robert Maxwell may have been laundering Mossad money, until he started embezzling it, prompting his death. (This is an imaginary scenario though I think it a plausible one.) Or for a more extreme example, maybe Jeffrey Epstein started as a money launderer for the CIA, then he started taking bigger and bigger cuts to finance his hobby (we all know now what that was) until that got out of hand, as in, found out. (Again this is an imaginary scenario, one of many plausible ones.)
If covert assets of the CIA (human or otherwise) started to try to manipulate the stock market for profit, I think they would find out very soon what billionaires can do.) If the illicit operations of the CIA make real money, hundreds of millions or even billions, the problem is their illicit operators don’t take the orders any more, they give them. And I think the one time operators will make sure to put the money in their name, in some way or other.
I guess the moral is that if you’re looking for CIA Deep State secret rulers, they will look pretty much like any other billionaire in Trump’s cabinet. They can be distinguished by their money coming from government contracts sometimes, or by mysterious stock market dealings. Personally though I would think such public figures aren’t very “deep” or behind the scenes. I mean, they more or less own the theater.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 25 2025 18:50 utc | 61

https://t.me/RVvoenkor/98471
Woody Allen was declared an enemy of Ukraine and included in the database of the “Peacemaker” for “supporting Russian aggression”
▪️Allen spoke via video link at the Moscow International Film Week the day before.
▪️The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine said that the director’s participation in the event is a shame and an insult to Ukrainian actors and filmmakers who died in the war with Russia.
Also in Lviv, the show of Allen’s musical “Bullets over Broadway” was canceled.

Posted by: guest | Aug 25 2025 18:52 utc | 62

Woody Allen put on Mirotvorets for participating in an online session of Moscow International Film Week festival (source).

Posted by: S | Aug 25 2025 18:54 utc | 63

Oops! guest beat me to it.

Posted by: S | Aug 25 2025 18:55 utc | 64

The UK’s now dead, much loved (by the Establishment and working class people with false political consciousness) queen, was photographed giving the Nazi salute and almost all the press found reasons to excuse and explain this.
Posted by: Vragtes | Aug 25 2025 16:18 utc | 22
Although the press totally ignored the fact that her husband, Racist Phil, had four sisters, each of whom married a top-ranking Nazi.

Posted by: Red Star | Aug 25 2025 18:56 utc | 65

Posted by: james | Aug 25 2025 16:40 utc | 28
With the exception of Raytheon since April 23, valuation of shares of major American MIC industries (Raytheon, Northop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics) have behaved like the overall S&P500, some outperforming the S&P, some underperforming.
Since April 23, Raytheon shoot up but not by a spectacular margin wrt S&P500.
Of course, comparable data from the Russian MIC are not available.
So I do not think there are major winners in the West out of the war in the Ukraines, not even in our military industrial complex.
And clearly, the only major conglomerate making lots of money since April 23, is not making more than what the Western taxpayers are spending in supporting the whole Ukrainian satrapy PLUS what our industry ecosystem is losing due to higher costs and less business due to this war.
What I want to emphasize here is that the evil logic of hidden Western capitalists making money out of the war, which some in my circles use as copium, while leftists suspect is a hidden motivation, is flawed.
We are losing, nearly all of us, economically, militarily and geopolitically.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 25 2025 19:00 utc | 66

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 25 2025 18:27 utc | 57
Japan was defeated before nukes not by nukes.
Nukes were only a demo against the Soviets.

Posted by: Mario | Aug 25 2025 19:04 utc | 67

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 25 2025 18:27 utc | 57
Imagine Imperial Japan if they never bombed Hiroshima or had an emperor to say, ‘enough’.

There’s a reasonable theory that Japan’s capitulation was less the consequence of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and more a consequence of the Red Army’s imminant landing. This train of thought makes a lot of sense: if the USSR would’ve gotten troops onto Japan, that’d mean Germany-style division among the allies rather than a Japan occupied by the USA only.

Posted by: Konami | Aug 25 2025 19:04 utc | 68

I am a bit puzzled by the fact that in mainstream Western discourse self-righteous denunciation of the Alternative for Germany Party is de riguer while the whitewashing, even the adulation, of pro-Nazi Ukrainians is perfectly acceptable.
Can anyone explain why?

Posted by: Roger Milbrandt | Aug 25 2025 19:12 utc | 69

@ Johan Kaspar | Aug 25 2025 19:00 utc | 66
thanks.. i mostly agree with you, although the incentive for this boondoggle in 2014, or 2021 and where we are now, doesn’t add up to a lot of profit for the west.. oerhaps the motive appeared more enticing previously compared to now??
and i especially agree with your last sentence.. thanks for sharing your insights..

Posted by: james | Aug 25 2025 19:13 utc | 70

@68
Churchill might have talked Truman to use the nukes on the Red Army in Japan.
The bombs we’re a show for Stalin’s, as much as whet Le May’s appetite.

Posted by: paddy | Aug 25 2025 19:15 utc | 71

It becomes daily more difficult to find anything—culturally, politically, socially—that redeems the UK as a global actor. It truly is, as Paul Keating once remarked, “a rusting theme-park sliding into the Atlantic”. Back in April I had an opportunity to travel through Tasmania; I visited some fine new museums documenting the way the island functioned as part of Britain’s penal colony system. I was quite shocked to learn the extent and horror of it, though I ought to have known this history better: Tasmania was a gulag, pure and simple. I quickly reached the (well, obvious) conclusion, drawn too by many others, that all the horrors (without exception) of the 20th century were developed and refined by the British in the 19th century. The next conclusions are necessary: the UK was, and continues to be, a toxic agent. If we accept too that Zionism owes its existence to Britain then the death toll of this serial murdering state since 1800 far exceeds any other. In any case, the damage they did to Australia, and the parental abuse they still continue to inflict, makes my blood boil. It’s a great shame Australia remains captured in Stockholm Syndrome by the UK. I’d consign their shitty little limey asses to the deep.

Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 25 2025 19:23 utc | 72

We are losing, nearly all of us, economically, militarily and geopolitically.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 25 2025 19:00 utc | 66
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IMHO the “explanation” for the continuation of the war from here to it looks like eternity that seems most logical and not actually ideological is the domestic political needs of Euro-elites: to hang on to power and sideline democracy within their nations, decreasingly sovereign though they seem to be, with fingers crossed that economic implosion via unpayable debts can be held at bay forever and day via a war with and eventual dismemberment of Russia.
This explanation (not mine) had to do with debts incurred in connection with Ukraine—“loans” to Ukraine, I believe.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 25 2025 19:23 utc | 73

I’m sure the americans like openly fascists just as much, and have a lot more influence.
So why is B so focussed on the Brits?
Since long a mere sidekick of the US banana republic
Posted by: Ed Bernays | Aug 25 2025 17:34 utc | 44

If you haven’t noticed by now, b is a Trump fluffer. The biggest fascist leader and fascist state in the room—Trump and America—are conspicuously absent among the list of Ukraine war perpetrators in b’s blog posts ever since Trump’s election victory. It’s the Europeans, it’s the British, but never America, even when Trump is encouraging Ukraine to strike deep within Russian territory and is selling missiles to Ukraine to do that exact job. Of course, when Biden finally allowed Ukraine to use its missiles to strike Russia in November 2024, b was quick to slam Biden for trying to prolong the war in Ukraine. Cheerleading for one faction of America’s uniparty fascists requires b to deny Brian Berletic’s “continuity of agenda”—the fact that the imperial war machine marches on regardless of which faction of fascists is in charge of America.
From Trump, Aug 21, 2025, 9:35 AM:

It is very hard, if not impossible, to win a war without attacking an invaders country. It’s like a great team in sports that has a fantastic defense, but is not allowed to play offense. There is no chance of winning! It is like that with Ukraine and Russia. Crooked and grossly incompetent Joe Biden would not let Ukraine FIGHT BACK, only DEFEND. How did that work out? Regardless, this is a war that would have NEVER happened if I were President – ZERO CHANCE. Interesting times ahead!!! President DJT

From WSJ, Aug. 23, 2025 5:31 pm ET:

The administration this past week approved the sale of 3,350 Extended Range Attack Munition air-launched missiles, or ERAMs, which are set to arrive in Ukraine in about six weeks, two U.S. officials said. The $850 million arms package, mostly funded by European nations and which includes other items, was delayed until after Trump’s summits with Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

The weapon sale is totally kosher and pro-peace because the American arms are paid for by Europe, so Daddy Trump’s hands are clean. Daddy Trump prodding Ukraine to play offense against Russia is just Daddy Trump playing 5D chess to secure peace while hoodwinking the British “deep state”* and profiting handsomely from it, perhaps by taking the payment and never delivering the weapons. Or maybe Daddy Trump just had to cave in to the demands of the “deep state” because they have blackmail on him/they’re threatening his life. The excuses can and will go on and on. I’m quite sure Trump cultists can think up more creative excuses for Trump than I can.
Instead of America, b is going after British media (whose role in agitating its readers for war with Russia I do not deny) like Times and Guardian. I bet the vast majority of Russian casualties come from rolled up copies of Times and Guardian launched from missile tubes or dropped from drones. American weapons like ERAMs have zero lethality (sarcasm).
Death to America
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
*The definition of “deep state”, from Samir Amin’s The Return of Fascism in Contemporary Capitalism:

We observe, mutatis mutandis, a similar conjuncture in the United States, although its extreme right is never called fascist. The McCarthyism of yesterday, just like the Tea Party fanatics and warmongers (e.g., Hillary Clinton) of today, openly defend “liberties”—understood as exclusively belonging to the owners and managers of monopoly capital—against “the government,” suspected of acceding to the demands of the system’s victims.

In other words, the “deep state” is simply a stand-in for policies which the fascists perceive to be overly kind to the victims of American imperialism, such as refugees of America’s wars (proxy war or direct, economic war or kinetic), black people, transgenders, DEIs etc.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Aug 25 2025 19:31 utc | 74

I think this makes a very important point.
WHAT IF THE RUSSIANS HAD CONDUCTED THE COUP IN 2014?
In 2014 the United States (aligned with a faction in the Ukrainian government) conducted a coup in Kiev (to replace the democratically elected Yanukovich government which was considered insufficiently pro-Europe).
Many in Eastern Ukraine rebelled against this coup-government.
A civil war began.
The coup-government claimed authority over all of Ukraine
and called itself “the Ukrainian government”.
The coup-government sent in the military to deal with the eastern rebels.
The media claimed, and still claims, that the U.S. backed coup-government had a “right” to all of Ukraine and they champion (vigorously support) a march to the Russian border.

WHAT IF THIS HAD HAPPENED IN 2014?
In 2014 Russia (aligned with a faction in the Ukrainian government) conducted a coup in Kiev (to replace the Yanukovich government which was considered too pro-Europe).
Many in Western Ukraine rebelled against this coup-government.
A civil war began.
The coup-government claimed authority over all of Ukraine
and called itself “the Ukrainian government”.
The coup-government called in the Russian military to deal with the western rebels.
Of course, to be consistent, the media would have to claim that the Russian backed coup-government had a “right” to all of Ukraine and that they championed a march of the Russian military to the Polish border.

The important point is that statements such as “Ukraine will not give up any of its land,” and “Zelenski Rejects Giving Land” make no sense.
This is because the coup-government, and its successors, never established authority over all of Ukraine.
ANOTHER SCENARIO
What if the Chinese (aligned with a leftist faction in the Ukrainian government) had conducted a coup in Kiev. Would this give them authority over all of Ukraine?

Posted by: administration | Aug 25 2025 19:37 utc | 75

I’d consign their shitty little limey asses to the deep.
Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 25 2025 19:23 utc | 72
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Basically I agree with this portrait of Perfidious Albion.
But I wouldn’t consign it to the deep because I do know some nice people there, and the walking is superb.
And the working-class blokes and gals don’t deserve what is currently being dished out to them.
I kind of follow a conservative online newspaper, The Daily Skeptic, and although I am 180 degrees from their support of Israel, I am on board with their chronicling of the Woke absurdity and real damage being done to regular Brits. Hypocrisy, thy name is Britain. Especially among the degenerate “ruling classes.”
BTW, a huge portion of the actual terrain of the British Isles is held by large private owners.
“The UK is made up from approximately 60,000,000 acres. . . . the top 50 landowners currently control 7,331,243 acres which equates to over 12% of Britain’s landmass.”

Posted by: Jane | Aug 25 2025 19:38 utc | 76

Posted by: james | Aug 25 2025 19:13 utc | 70
although the incentive for this boondoggle in 2014, or 2021 and where we are now, doesn’t add up to a lot of profit for the west.. oerhaps the motive appeared more enticing previously compared to now??

Yes, that is correct. This is downstream from the subpar quality of our political elites, making amateur calculations and not taking action to correct errors and cut losses.
Which in turn is downstream from the motivations of voters, as they support whoever the wider elites plant in front of them in exchange for the promise of endless welfare, these voters never daring to change course, always voting as they’re commanded to do by the elites in their parties.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 25 2025 19:44 utc | 77

Posted by: Jane | Aug 25 2025 19:38 utc | 76
You’re right of course. There aren’t enough lamp-posts in the world to accommodate British ruling class. If you’re ever in Hobart, visit the ‘Female Factory’, the women’s prison that operated there till the late 1850s. Even Dickens would have lacked the skill to describe it. It reminded me of Sachsenhausen outside of Berlin. The suffering there was calibrated in a way commensurable with anything the Nazis perpetrated.

Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 25 2025 19:46 utc | 78

RF forces need to by pass all the UAF strong points and fortified cities and keep moving toward the Dnieper River with all possible haste, this time of the year speed is of the essence.
Wasting time, and ammo and manpower on these strong points make no sense at all. The strategic goal needs to be to capture the entire central east bank of the river before the fall rains and snow arrive.
The Germans wasted an entire army group (Paulus’ 5th) attempting to crack Stalingrad, why would the RF repeat that error.
Anyway keep moving and rolling up UAF units and dont stop until you reach the river!

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 25 2025 19:52 utc | 79

This is is a repeat of the death threat by Dmytro Yarosh, a co-founder of the Right Sector in 2019, a week after Zelensky became president. Yarosh said then that Zelensky would “hang on some tree on Khreshchatyk – if he betrays Ukraine”.
The fact that Zelensky continues to be so uncompromising against Russia must mean that his western masters are not allowing him to escape to some secure place in the West where they would protect him from assassination.

Posted by: Brendan | Aug 25 2025 19:54 utc | 80

John Gilberts | Aug 25 2025 15:22 utc | 7
re Carney, Starmer et al
Ukraine is, now, the last refuge of a scoundrel.

Posted by: bevin | Aug 25 2025 19:55 utc | 81

Patroklos | Aug 25 2025 19:23 utc | 72
As a limey, I resemble that remark.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 25 2025 19:55 utc | 82

The UK is now a woke Orwellian state where you can be arrested for posting on facebook that, for example, all illegal alien criminals should be deported.
A simple statement like that can get you a visit from the MPD. Or try praying in front of an abortion murder clinic……same out come, arrested and cuffed by the MPD.
Or try supporting Palestinians being genocided by the IDF and yes you will be arrested and jailed.
The London bankers are more than happy to see the citizenry intimidated, they want to continue to finance the Nazis in Israel and Ukraine, without any nasty citizen outrage. Keep the peasants down on the farm and docile……

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 25 2025 19:59 utc | 83

“Those close to him say he sees Israel as a model, despite its current bloody actions in Gaza, viewing it as a small country surrounded by enemies and fully focused on defence.”
Zionism is Nazism and vice versa. What proof does anyone need now? The US is headed in that same direction too. Might as well since we support both.
Looks like Russia will take all of Ukraine to save the world from these clowns. Whether it wants to or not

Posted by: Kay | Aug 25 2025 20:16 utc | 84

Decapitation of Ukraine’s Nazis is an urgent requirement. They get funding from Nazi Britain and Nazi Germany. They exploit the defeatist mentality of average Ukrainians.

Posted by: Jason | Aug 25 2025 20:29 utc | 85

It was a Gallup poll that found 69% of Ukrainians would trade land for peace so this guy isn’t speaking for the majority of Ukrainians, just his own fascist buddies.

Posted by: WG | Aug 25 2025 20:29 utc | 86

Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera

LOL, that old canard. Yeah, Bandera and Nazis were allied against Stalin’s USSR, but then the Nazis imprisoned him in a concentration camp when it became obvious he opposed their dominion over Ukraine as well. But I recall there were other “collaborators” with those dirty stinky Nazis … including the Emperor of Japan, Hirohito, the King of Thailand, and of course the better known Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania, Italy, Finland, …. I loathe Bandera because of what he did, his (temporary) alliance with Nazi Germany is irrelevant, just as is UK’s, US’ and others’ temporary alliance with Stalin’s USSR in WW II.

Posted by: CalDdre | Aug 25 2025 20:36 utc | 87

I’m sure the Russians would have factored the possibility of rejection to any genuine peace offer.
I do not expect any uptick from the Russians until after the SCO and Chinese celebration.
Expect more atrocities from NATO.

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 25 2025 20:38 utc | 88

Zionism is Nazism and vice versa.
Posted by: Kay | Aug 25 2025 20:16 utc | 84

There is this:
Seeing that many of the politicians in “neo-Nazi” Ukraine are Jews, or of Jewish descent, I wondered if the same may have been true in Nazi Germany. So, I checked the surnames of a large number of people from the Nazi era. What I found is truly amazing. Note that all surnames designated Jewish can be found in one of the books on Jewish Genealogy listed below.
Adolf Hitler [Jew surname].
Below is a list of Nazi Field Marshalls.
Looks like they were all of Jewish descent.
Fedor von Bock [Jew surname].
Werner von Blomberg [Jew surname].
Walther von Brauchitsch = Brauch-itsch [Jew surname-occupation (joiner)]
Ernst von Busch [Jew surname].
Hermann Göring = Gör-Ring [Jew surname-Jew surname] Luftwaffe.
Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb [variant of Jew surname Lieb?]
Wilhelm Keitel [Jew surname].
Albert Kesselring = Kessel-Ring [Jew surname-Jew surname] Luftwaffe.
Ewald von Kleist [Jew surname].
Gunther von Kluge [Jew surname].
Georg von Küchler [Jew surname].
Wilhelm List [Jew surname].
Erich von Manstein [Jew surname]. Born Lewinski [Jew surname].
Erhard Milch [Jew surname] Luftwaffe.
Walther Model [Jew surname].
Friedrich von Paulus [variant of the Jew surname Paul?]
Walther von Reichenau = Reiche-Nau = [Jew surname-Jew surname]
Erwin Rommel [variant of Jew names Frommel and Trommel?]
Gerd von Rundstedt = Rund-stedt [Jew surname-town]
Ferdinand Schörner [variant of the Jew surname Tschorne?]
Hugo Sperrle [variant of the Jew surname Sperr?] Luftwaffe.
Erwin von Witzleben [variant of Witzler-ben? Jew surname-son of]
Those of Jewish descent in Hitler’s life (non-military).
Martin Bormann [Jew surname]. Hitler’s private secretary. Money man.
Eva Braun [Jew surname]. Hitler’s mistress and wife.
Hans Frank [Jew surname]. Hitler’s lawyer.
Ulrich Graf [Jew surname]. Hitler’s personal companion 1920-1923.
Gertrud Junge [Jew surname] nee Gertrud Humps. Hitler’s private secretary.
Theodor Morell [Jew surname]. One of Hitler’s personal physicians.
Karl Brandt [Jew surname]. One of Hitler’s personal physicians.
Albert Speer [Jew surname]. Hitler’s personal architect and city planner.
Fritz Wiedemann [Jew surname]. Personal adjutant to Hitler.
Julius Schreck [Jew surname]. Hitler’s chauffeur.
Karl von Frank [Jew surname]. Hitler’s genealogist.
Hugo Blaschke [Jew surname]. Hitler’s dentist.
Hugo Erlanger [Jew surname]. Hitler’s landlord for ten years.
Some others.
Adolf Eichmann [Jew surname]. Head of the Scientific Museum for Jewish Affairs.
Rudolf Hess [Jew surname]. Deputy to the Fuehrer.
Heinrich Himmler [Jew surname]. Leading National Socialist politician.
Alfred Rosenberg [Jew surname]. Leading proponent of National Socialist ideology.
Julius Streicher [Jew surname]. National Socialist politician.
Wilhelm Messerschmitt [Jew surname]. Aircraft designer and manufacturer.
Hjalmar Schacht [Jew surname]. Financier, president of the Reichsbank.
Joseph Goebbels [variant of the Jew surname Göbel?] National Socialist politician and propagandist.
Reinhard Heydrich = Heyd-Rich [Jew surname-Jew surname] Administrator of the concentration camps.
Here is a list of Nazi Chiefs of General Staff.
They were probably all of Jewish descent.
Heinz Guderian [Jew surname]. Chief of General Staff Jul 1944 to Mar 1945
Adolf Heusinger [Jew surname] Chief of General Staff Jun 1944 to Jul 1944
Kurt Zeitzler [variant of the Jew name Weitzler?] Chief of General Staff Sep 1942 to Jul 1944
Franz Halder [variant of the Jew name Halde?] Chief of General Staff Sep 1938 to Sep 1942
Ludwig Beck [Jew surname] Chief of General Staff Jul 1935 to Aug 1938
Various leaders.
იოსებ ჯუღაშვილი [variant of the Jew name ჯუდაშვილი] (Joseph Stalin) General Secretary of the Soviet Union; ჯუდაშვილი translated means “son of Judah”.
Mikhail Gorbachev [variant of the Jew name Gorbaczyński?] President of the Soviet Union
Boris Yeltsin [variant of the Jew name Peltson?] President of Russia
Vladimir Putin [variant of the Jew names Jutin Kutin Mutin Rutin Yutin?] President of Russia [Владимир Путин]
Angela Merkel [Jew surname] nee Kasner [Jew surname] Chancellor of Germany
Olaf Sholtz [variant of the Jew name Shultz?] Chancellor of Germany
Friedrich Merz [Jew surname] Chancellor of Germany
Adolf Hitler [Jew surname] Chancellor of Germany
Annalena Baerbock Baer-Bock [Jew surname-Jew surname] German Foreign Minister
Johann Wadephul Wade-Phul [Jew surname-Jew surname] German Foreign Minister
Franklin Roosevelt [variant of the Jew name Rosenfelt] President USA
George Bush [variant of the Jew name Busch?] President USA
Donald Trump [variant of the Jew name Trumpf?] President USA
Keir Starmer [variant of the Jew surnames St{eiuü}rmer?] British Prime Minister
Stepan Bandera [variant of the Jew surname Bander?] Ukrainian Nationalist
Volodymyr Zelensky [Jew surname] President of Ukraine
Volodymyr Groysman [Jew surname] Prime Minister of Ukraine
Denys Shmigal [variant of the Jew name Schmigelski] Prime Minister of Ukraine
Vitali Klitschko [variant of the Jew name Klitsch?] Mayor of Kiev
Lech Kaczyński [Jew surname] President of Poland
Jarosław Kaczyński [Jew surname] Prime Minister of Poland
Mateusz Morawiecki [variant of the Jew names Morawiec Morawietz etc?] Prime Minister of Poland
Mark Rutte [Jew surname] Dutch Prime Minister; NATO Secretary General 2024-
Pedro Sanchez [Jew surname] Spanish Prime Minister
Bart De Wever [Jew surname] Belgian Prime Minister
Giorgia Meloni [variant of the Jew name Melon?] Italian Prime Minister
Kaja Kallas [variant of the Jew names Khallas Callas Challas?] Prime Minister of Estonia
Mette Frederiksen [Jew surname-son of] Prime Minister of Denmark
Petr Pavel [Jew surname] Czech President; Chief of the NATO Military Committee
Klaus Johannis [Jew surname] President of Romania
Jaap Scheffer [Jew surname] NATO Secretary General 2004-2009
Jens Stoltenberg [variant of the Jew name Stoltzenberg?] NATO Secretary General 2014-2024
Charles Michel [Jew surname] European Council President
Ursula von der Leyen [Jew surname] nee Albrecht [Jew surname] President of the European Commission
Note that all the surnames designated Jewish can be found in one of these books:
Handbook of Ashkenazic Given Names and Their Variants by Alexander Beider
A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from Galicia by Alexander Beider
A Dictionary of German-Jewish Surnames by Lars Menk
Handbook of Ashkenazic Given Names and Their Variants by Alexander Beider
A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from Italy, France and “Portuguese” Communities by Alexander Beider
A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from Maghreb, Gibraltar, and Malta by Alexander Beider
The Jacobi Papers: Genealogical Studies of Leading Ashkenazi Families by Paul Jacobi & Emanuel Elyasaf

Posted by: Zionism is Nazism | Aug 25 2025 20:42 utc | 89

P.S. Bandera is not much different from Ben-Gurion (and the OUN during WW II is not much different from say the IDF during the Nakba), or heck, didn’t George Washington and Thomas Jefferson preside over the largest documented genocide in history while owning slaves?
Yet people still reverse Washington and Jefferson. And it’s not because of their destruction of the Native American peoples or ownership of slaves. And nobody is called a “Washington collaborator”, though there were many.
I had a discussion with a Russian “intellectual” a few years ago trying to explain that, just like Russians and Poles, for example, have a very different view of Stalin (Russians’ don’t idolize him for being a tyrant, for the purges, for the gulags, for the terror, etc.) but for industrializing Russia and “saving” it during WW II. I find it impossible to ignore the other stuff. But it all depends on what you focus on. See: The parable of the blind men and the elephant. He just couldn’t understand it and indeed got extremely irate. Brainwashing will do that to you.

Posted by: CalDdre | Aug 25 2025 20:49 utc | 90

But I recall there were other “collaborators” with those dirty stinky Nazis … including the Emperor of Japan, Hirohito, the King of Thailand
Posted by: CalDdre | Aug 25 2025 20:36 utc | 87
On the day Japan surrendered, the King of Thailand was a nineteen-year-old student in Switzerland.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 25 2025 20:57 utc | 91

@ Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 25 2025 18:50 utc | 61
It is my impression that the CIA gets a good deal of it’s funding via “black-ops” – including drug running, weapons dealing, and human traficking, probably real eastate and other investments and extra-legal confiscations and black-mail, etc.
Facilitating avoidance of over-sight.

Posted by: jared1089 | Aug 25 2025 21:00 utc | 92

DJT needs this war more than ever, and the Kremlin knows it but they are playing out the game ‘very tactically‘.
The expansion of extra research groups at the Outlaw US of A who are now studying the capabilities of all types of drones and how can they be used effectively in the battlefield is quite telling to say the least.

Posted by: pepe | Aug 25 2025 21:00 utc | 93

reply to 67, 68
You guys don’t get the critical point. Whether Hiroshima or a Red Army landing, a severe event was needed along with an absolute leader to announce surrender.
That’s not Ukraine. How does this war end? Oh, Britain/EU collapse? When? in the next several years? And Ukraine can’t keep going with small arms basically forever? I respect history but citing it doesn’t seem to offer any clear answer to Ukraine’s willingness to commit suicide through warfare.

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 25 2025 21:02 utc | 94

Stop being childish. He’s not the “former prez” when regimes that have collapsed had acting ones until elections. See the netherlands right now.

Posted by: Sal | Aug 25 2025 21:06 utc | 95

Hooray, everyone’s favorite troll is back! Just one pearl from so many:

Mette Frederiksen [Jew surname-son of] Prime Minister of Denmark

…which would make most Danes (and Swedes, and Norwegians) Jews — as well as male (but curiously not female) Icelanders.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 25 2025 21:07 utc | 96

oops! lazy grammar..
NOT
all types of drones and how can they….
BUT
all types of drones and how they can…..

Posted by: pepe | Aug 25 2025 21:09 utc | 97

I am really sorry for all europeans, russian going for the butt plug
enjoy or cry
but it will be that… that tactic is really annoying but it will happen, especially for europeans

Posted by: Macpott | Aug 25 2025 21:16 utc | 98

The fact that Zelensky continues to be so uncompromising against Russia must mean that his western masters are not allowing him to escape to some secure place in the West where they would protect him from assassination.
Posted by: Brendan | Aug 25 2025 19:54 utc | 80
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Verrrrrry interesting.
He’d best head for Russia. Option 3, above.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 25 2025 21:17 utc | 99

If you haven’t noticed by now, b is a Trump fluffer. The biggest fascist leader and fascist state in the room—Trump and America—are conspicuously absent among the list of Ukraine war perpetrators in b’s blog posts ever since Trump’s election victory. It’s the Europeans, it’s the British, but never America, even when Trump is encouraging Ukraine to strike deep within Russian territory and is selling missiles to Ukraine to do that exact job. Of course, when Biden finally allowed Ukraine to use its missiles to strike Russia in November 2024, b was quick to slam Biden for trying to prolong the war in Ukraine. Cheerleading for one faction of America’s uniparty fascists requires b to deny Brian Berletic’s “continuity of agenda”—the fact that the imperial war machine marches on regardless of which faction of fascists is in charge of America.
Posted by: All Under Heaven | Aug 25 2025 19:31 utc | 74

Although I largely agree with this, something I find very hard to understand is that both Putin and Lavrov have made many official statements that can also be aptly described as “Trump fluffer”, overtly so and in the same manner you have described. It is strange. So it’s perhaps unfair to target b (and many other analysts) for doing the same thing that Putin and Lavrov *seem* to be doing.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 25 2025 21:17 utc | 100