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August 31, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-198

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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I must also add, I talk to people who openly parroted israeli narratives until mid summer at least, which was already marking you as a POS outside certain bubbles.
People reciting endless stereotypes about russian inferiority, too.
But never heard this “let’s loot Ruzzia” take.
Not once.

Posted by: Satepestage | Sep 2 2025 1:07 utc | 201

English Outsider @ 69
ps Yes, hair-raising things going on in UK. Can’t believe how bad things have become. Everything’s coming apart it seems. Carney’s Canada heading in a similar direction full speed ahead but early days yet compared to your place.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 2 2025 2:07 utc | 202

Ukraine in NATO Would Mean Civil-War – Former President
https://www.rt.com/623873-yanukovich-ukraine-nato-membership/
Viktor Yanukovich said he wanted Ukraine to join the EU, but knew that membership in the military bloc would be ‘a disaster’…”
Fascinating.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 2 2025 2:44 utc | 203

206 corrected:
https://www.rt.com/russia/623873-yanukovich-ukraine-nato-membership/
Yanukovich – a blast from the past.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 2 2025 2:48 utc | 204

@karlof1 | Aug 31 2025 15:34 utc | 28
What you say about evangelical zionists being after the Russians (with inspiration about Gog and Magog fetched from the bible and rearranged to fit the geopolitical agenda) was amply stated by the Larouche circle long ago and sometimes I think you karlof1, [who I respect for being an honest opinion maker], ought to make more use of Larouche-material.”
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Sep 1 2025 7:42 utc | 132
The LaRouche gang isn’t the mainstream of the Evangelical movement. 99 out of 100 Evangelicals couldn’t even tell you who Lyndon LaRouche was; he’s less relevant than Ross Perot (that giant sucking sound is your job being shipped to Mexico).
While some Evangelicals believe that Biblical references to Gog and Magog could mean Russia, we don’t believe that God needs our help to implement His plan by fighting against Russia. We believe that God is going to do what God wants to do, in spite of anything we might do to help or hinder. If you are going to cite what Evangelicals think, at least try talking to a few of them. LaRouche is so 1970’s.
Evangelicals are more concerned that you know you can find peace with God through a relationship with Jesus than we are about who is leading Russia.

Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 2 2025 2:53 utc | 205

I don’t mind coming here being ridiculed, partially ignored or mockingly half replied to via 3rd person comments. I get that, the little club of war stories ex-whatevers don’t play well with others…the random reader, I’ll always be happy to contribute change for them.
DJT will never understand Europe, as a President, as a New Yorker or probably as an American. In NYC and US the car is still king, there’s few Piazza’s, fewer with pedestrianised green spaces, fewer still where a French group, Italian group and Spanish group can sit on adjoining tables half listening to each others conversations, throwing in whimsical rejoinders experiencing flavours of each others cultures, perspectives and points of views in doing so, while at the same time knowing the new concrete and glass structures mixed in the old quarter are there because when cultures collide, bombs drop and cityscapes change forever — so we learn to live in the dance in between, revel in each others fiesta majors and accept differences because consequences are real.
IDK if DJT gets that it doesn’t get fixed by AMEC construction after MIC, marines, & US bank war corp have their slice or if he doesn’t get it because he’s never been immersed in another’s culture, listened to the nuanced perspective of another’s language…or a thousand other reasons that make up his failures. He’ll also never understand why he doesn’t get invited to events in Tianjen and Beijing, maybe he will when America stops driving SUV battle tanks, creates some piazzas where people can drink coffee for €1.50 where people and cultures can mix and enjoy their differences instead of being divided by them.
What it’ll take for that to percolate to echelons where one more oil field keeps the mansion for another generation — IDK… maybe President Xi has some ideas there? The ones so far seem to be working

Posted by: Mercury | Sep 2 2025 2:56 utc | 206

Above..In reply to:
steel_porcupine | Sep 1 2025 0:26 utc | 105

Posted by: Mercury | Sep 2 2025 2:58 utc | 207

https://ua.news-pravda.com/en/russia/2025/09/01/67684.html
News about Russian plans for Odessa.
Posted by: Michael J | Sep 2 2025 3:32 utc | 174
From the SCO thread.
Subtle hint from the Russian General Staff.

Posted by: Suresh | Sep 2 2025 6:12 utc | 208

The debate between Mauro and Satepestage is possibly less controversial than might be thought – provided, you replace the “looters'” (or let’s say: colonialist’s) point of view by “fanaticism in favor of productivity and progress”. Then you get that ancient vindication for evictions enclosures enslavement of Locke: those who cultivate the soil more producticely (or just extract wealth out of it at all) shall own it – even at the expense of the original cultivators. This fits in with “democracy” and “anti-communism / capitalism” – both of them guarantors for “productivity”.
More instances:
On X, some time ago I read posts about “backward Russian cars” with no western standard – which (according to the poster) “says it all, what do I have to know more?” (reminds you insome sense of: gas-station with nukes..)
And, to the same tune: Those Russians – why is it that nobody (eg. in the Baltics) is willing to join them – why are they so unattractive? Why don’t they compete with us in being beacons of progress and civilsational refinery like us, the EU (the garden)? etc
(Same, btw, with Hamas and Israel: Why haven’t they made Gaza the Dubai of the Mediterranian? Instead of… etc)

Posted by: franziska | Sep 2 2025 6:19 utc | 209

Posted by: Mauro | Sep 1 2025 19:16 utc | 188
I live in Europe, and I can tell you that you are mistaken. It is true that Europeans are not particularly patriotic, but many have been persuaded that the destruction of Russia and the plundering of its resources will bring prosperity to the EU the likes of which have not been seen for decades.
[…]
I can assure you that if you strike up a relationship with a European, regardless of their social class or political background, in the vast majority of cases they will soon reiterate the point I have made. I have even heard supposedly caring mothers of families, almost foaming at the mouth, say that we must do this to secure a future for their children

Bullshit!
I’ve never heard anything about a desired destruction of Russia.
And no one has been foaming at the mouth, lol.
What you say is crazy really, you’re nuts!
Johan Kaspar: Good day sir, great to be here, I hope we have a productive meeting.
Random European: Excellent Herr S., great to have you here, so about the destruction of Russia to plunder it, today we have a brainstorming at the cafeteria, if you want to attend?
Johan: Sure, I just spoke with a caring mother coming to do my room at the hotel and she explained how Russia has to be partitioned while she foamed at the mouth.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 2 2025 6:58 utc | 210

Posted by: franziska | Sep 2 2025 6:19 utc | 212
Possibly. But most shitlibs I deal with mindlessy parrot the party line, which appears to be “Democracy, rah rah!”.
The resource angle, not being pushed top down, requires further thought many are not capable of (though that applies to many bubbles, including alternative ones).
They might be relatively common in certain venues more aware of economic realities, sure but I think it is a sampling issue.
And the liquid society they have carefully built, while perhaps unable to fight against them in ordinary circumstances certainly will not fight for them.
Ukraine is old school, so they could fire it up with nationalism and the carrot of joining the West.
In Euroland they would have to do a 180 overnight.

Posted by: Satepestage | Sep 2 2025 7:06 utc | 211

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 2 2025 6:58 utc | 213
Plenty of them, though a minority.
Thing is, they regard fighting as beneath them: most of them could not stomach a comment calling them out for tiptoeing around Gaza, never mind warfare on the Ostfront.
Should the F-35s fail to crush the russians in a couple if weeks, as they imagine, it is going to get real funny real fast.

Posted by: Satepestage | Sep 2 2025 7:14 utc | 212

The losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in battles on the LPR frontlines in June-August, including foreign mercenaries, amounted to almost 54 thousand killed and wounded, Marochko reported.
The military expert noted that fighters of the “North”, “South” and “West” groups liberated 31 settlements.
z and v telegram
The trail of Parubiy’s murder leads to Zelensky’s office, says Rada deputy Dmytruk.
the person arrested does not look anything like the assassin apparently, its all a fixup…supposed to be a “russian”link.. Polish Foreign Minister Sikorski called the Nazi and murderer, commandant of Euromaidan and fanatical Bandera member Andrei Parubiy, who was killed today, one of the best sons of the Ukrainian people.
🇳🇱The Dutch party “Forum for Democracy” promised in its election platform to normalize relations with Russia and lift anti-Russian sanctions.
The party also pledges to stop spending billions on foreign conflicts, including the Ukrainian one.
Is Europe slowly coming to its senses?!
ukraine_watch

Posted by: Jo | Sep 2 2025 8:35 utc | 213

Who knows what the death of a child kidnapped and forced to die in a mincer at the front will do to the fathers and mothers.
This is an extraordinary clip of the murderer/assassin :
https://xcancel.com/RWApodcast/status/1962823281150488968
‘Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast
1h
The man who was arrested for killing Ukrainian MP Parubiy says that:
– the target was chosen randomly, Parubiy was nearby; had he lived in Vinnitsa, he would’ve killed Poroshenko
– he wants to be sentenced as quickly as possible so he can get exchanged for Ukrainian POWs, go to Russia and search for his son’s body
– he had no contact with Russian special services, the assassination was his own initiative & personal revenge against the Ukrainian government
Sounds like his son was forcibly conscripted into the Ukrainian military and got killed in action…
Sep 2, 2025 · 10:21 AM UTC ‘
Where the story line of his escape on a scooter and cars etc intersects with that I don’t know. If he wanted to be arrested then why didn’t he just hang around at the crime site?
Did he turn himself in?
If his motives are true – there will be a lot disgruntled parents and they will know a lot of child snatchers who have been bundling their loved ones to certain death – ukropian ‘society’ is never going to recover from such internal strife.
Some might even find blame in the Europeans and Yankeedoodles who encouraged and paid and pushed for the ‘to the last Ukrainian’ meaning the last Russian speaking Ukrainian.
Any peace settlement would require a referendum in the rump Ukraine, as I have long believed, so the inhabitants can choose to stay independent or become Russia with all the economic and welfare security of the whole EurAsia SCO/BRI or they can attempt to go beg in the streets of Europe and America as limblesss veterans abandoned by their banderists and AngloEuropean paymasters.
The child snatchers will pay with their lives one way or another. They’ll need to be resettled in some fascist backwater of the Collective Waste.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 2 2025 12:06 utc | 214

🇬🇧🏴‍☠️🇺🇦 Britain has sent Kyiv 60,000 shells and 2,500 drones as part of a 50-day campaign to provide military support to Ukraine, said Defense Secretary John Healey.
In addition, the list of supplies included 30 transport vehicles and engineering equipment, as well as 200 electronic warfare and air defense systems.

Posted by: Jo | Sep 2 2025 13:14 utc | 215

Looks like the EU/USA/Britain/Ukraine will need to try and assassinate this man, they tried not that long ago but they failed, this attempt hasn’t shut up Fico.
“Ukraine is free to pursue EU membership, but it cannot be allowed to join NATO, Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico said during a bilateral meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in China on Tuesday.
Fico noted that while every country has the right to decide its future, there are a lot of issues regarding Kiev’s accession to the EU. He stressed that Slovakia believes Ukraine needs to fulfill all the demands that are necessary for it to become a member of the bloc and said he would discuss this issue during an upcoming meeting with Vladimir Zelensky.
“On the one hand, we support Ukraine in this regard, but on the other hand, I emphasize, I have said since the very beginning that Ukraine cannot become a member of NATO, this is my final decision,” Fico said.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 2 2025 13:19 utc | 216

ridiculous, oneminute its thousands next minute its just “trainers”
❗️🇬🇧🏴‍☠️🇺🇦Britain is assessing the combat readiness of its troops in case of imminent deployment to Ukraine.
This was reported by the country’s Defense Minister John Healey.
🇷🇺 To be honest, most people in Russia are looking forward to this, as it will serve as a good reason for Russia to finally destroy Britain, which for many centuries has considered and considers Russia the most terrible enemy and has been doing everything for centuries to destroy Russia.

Posted by: Jo | Sep 2 2025 13:22 utc | 217

🇩🇪 German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius lashed out at the unhinged von der Leyen over her statement about being ready to send European troops to Ukraine. He reminded: “The European Union has no authority or competence regarding the deployment of troops.” And he asked the lady to refrain from commenting on such plans. This was reported by Tagesschau.
Looks like the German Russophobes can’t quite agree among themselves…
@ukraine_watch

Posted by: Jo | Sep 2 2025 13:46 utc | 218

boneless | Sep 1 2025 10:55 utc | 142
*** Banderites are incapable of long-term thinking.***
Which makes them ideal puppets for those who are adept at it.

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 2 2025 15:24 utc | 219

Kassandra | Sep 1 2025 12:34 utc | 154
*** @ Apollyon (36): Ukraine cancels Hassidic pilgrimage
Unfortunately, this is quite bad. Just another step by the Netanyahu war-criminal regime to increase the pressure on the Hassidic Orthodox population in Israel who is refusing to serve in the IDF occupation force. ***
No, it is — given the ongoing war in Ukraine — just (whoever decided) being sensible.
Btw, most the Jews who go on pilgrimages to shrines in Ukraine (Khazaria) are among the most malevolently extreme Jews in existence, and certainly not anti-war.

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 2 2025 15:37 utc | 220

Alexander Mercouris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV11EASgdKA
“Macron/Starmer plan Ukraine Paris talks as Europe crashes; US wants India sanctions; SCO plans future.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 2 2025 15:41 utc | 221

Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 1 2025 21:00 utc | 193
*** The would-be looters have thrown lots of “game-changers” (an archaic term these days, or so it seems) at the target of their would-be looting, yet seem to be no nearer achieving access to the “loot”. If anything the “lootee” is wise to the plotting.
So, if you were a would-be looter, what is your next move? ***
Sack the tea-lady ?

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 2 2025 15:55 utc | 222

After the extermination of Demyan Ganul in Odessa in March this year by a grieving father, another grieving father bringing yet again a shed of justice. I would do the exact same thing.
https://tgstat.ru/en/channel/@DDGeopolitics/158936
🇺🇦 The man accused of killing Andriy Parubiy openly admitted his guilt in court and to journalists. Identified as Mikhail Viktorovich Stselnikov (Mykhailo Synelnykov), he declared:
“Yes, I killed him. He was nearby. If it had been Petya (Poroshenko), it would have been him. This is my personal revenge against the Ukrainian authorities.”
Stselnikov explained his motive: he wants a swift conviction, to be exchanged for a prisoner of war, and to go to Russia to search for the body of his son, who was reportedly killed in Ukraine.

Posted by: xor | Sep 2 2025 16:27 utc | 223

@YetAnotherAnon (16), @Canuk (165)
I agree. In particular the differenciation between Brits and the City hits the nail on the head.
Thomas Morus described the Celtic tragedy already some centuries ago: “The sheeps are eating the people”. Power and Capital has an old tradition to disdain the deplorables since the rule by the Normans, and instead of growing crops and vegetables, the peasants had to starve having been robbed their livelihood by rich patrons raising sheeps…

Posted by: Kassandra | Sep 2 2025 19:22 utc | 224

And at the third day of silence marat finally posted on a detail that at current evolution seems underwhelming
https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-frontline-report-september
AFU casulaties 1.295
Tass equally laconic
https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-frontline-report-september
Was thinking, everybody says Odessa, but adding the romanian/hungarian areas to Transnistria (and the coast west of palanca) would, allow a land-bridge to western allies , cut-off Romania/nato from ukraine and frame Odessa between two russian pillars/bastions for control.

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 2 2025 20:52 utc | 225

The Duran
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9duEb-Zcsw
“Gerasimov, aggressive attrition.”
Surrounded…

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 2 2025 23:56 utc | 226

At one point, North Stream 2 is completed, but no gas is flowing. With German thoroughness, Germany insists there still is some paperwork to do – certification, a mere administrative procedure. This is a topic when German Chancellor Scholz visits Putin:

“As for gas, we have another ready-made route – Nord Stream 2. It can be launched, but it is not launched. But here, too, there are problems, which consist in the fact that about a month and a half or so, maybe two ago, we discussed this topic in a conversation with the [German] Chancellor, I raised this issue, said that Gazprom had reserved capacity, created these powers, they we need to do something about it, they can’t hang in the air forever.
The answer was that there are other, more important questions now, it’s difficult to deal with this now, it’s out of place. But I had to warn that then we would remove half of the volume intended for Nord Stream for domestic consumption and processing – I spoke on this topic at the request of Gazprom – and Gazprom has already done this. Therefore, even if we launch Nord Stream 2 tomorrow, it will not be 55 billion cubic meters per year, but exactly half. And if we keep in mind that only the second half of the year is left of this year, that means one quarter. This is the supply situation,” the Russian leader said. (politnavigator Russian/English)

I interpret this as
– the German strategy is that Russia is desperate to sell gas, and North Stream 2 can be used as coercion
– the Russian strategy is making increasingly unfavorable offers – you can choose this offer now, or a worse one tomorrow.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 3 2025 7:05 utc | 227

Check out the map, This is technically all of Novorossia, says a commentor.
“The Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Federation, Gerasimov, summarized the results of the spring-summer offensive of the Russian Federation.
But the map on the wall suggests Odessa being part of Russia”
https://nitter.poast.org/MyLordBebo/status/1962502966927114261#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 3 2025 14:16 utc | 228

Wasn’t Trump threating Russia with more sanctions – if Putin didn’t make a peace deal with the Neo-Nazi dictator Zelensky.
“Trump’s latest two-week deadline to Russia ended yesterday, and no decisions or announcements have been made by the U.S. president.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 3 2025 15:05 utc | 229

So Beijing gave us its grand parade, a theatrical show of invincible weapons from a country that cannot even set foot on a small island visible from its own coast. All for the benefit of another mighty power that, after almost four years, still sits 90 kilometres from a capital belonging to an enemy ten times smaller and with one eighth of the population. And let us not forget the third proud titan, whose attempt to launch a warship of supposed quality ended with the vessel sinking right after touching the water.
Meanwhile the West cleans house. Venezuela is next, Maduro must already feel the rope on his neck, while in Cuba the message has surely landed. Syria? Broken and divided, the samee fate of Lybia, and Iraq, and Ethiopia, and Yugosalvia and so on. Not to mention Afghanistan, paraded as an US defeat, in truth a great success, as it is now a stinking corpse across the so-called ‘new silk road’ sowing isalmic unrest across Uighurs land. And Palestinians are on the way to become XXI Century Mohicans, Gaza, in Israeli (and US hands) will become eastern mediterranean Montecarlo, I expect Gaza F1 GP no later than 2030.
Take note. Boeing and Airbus in one year rolled out more than two thousand aircraft. The brilliant booming economies of Russia and China together produced ten. Yes, ten.
The Russians now face their comedy: they cannot fix refineries and pipelines destroyed by Ukrainians, because spare parts come from the decadent West and they lack engineers capable of anything.
And with twenty five percent inflation, queues for fuel and soon for bread, that may be the least of their problems. By now they should see the humiliating truth: their rulers dragged them into a war they cannot win, one that will crush their state and erase their people from history.

Posted by: Louis | Sep 3 2025 19:16 utc | 230

Stepping up a gear by the looks of things.
“Atleast one USAF B-2 Strategic Nuclear Bomber is operating at the very eastern end of the Norwegian Airspace.
This is something which we have never seen since the start of the Russo-Ukraine War.”
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1963314125335138610#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 3 2025 19:28 utc | 231

Stepping up a gear by the looks of things.
“Atleast one USAF B-2 Strategic Nuclear Bomber is operating at the very eastern end of the Norwegian Airspace.
Republicofscotland | Sep 3 2025 19:28 utc | 231

Likely at the end West is tired of this Ukrainian charade, Russian leaders maybe are about to face the same destiny of Iranian nuclear labs and Yemeni government. Game over?

Posted by: Louis | Sep 3 2025 19:33 utc | 232

Posted by: Louis | Sep 3 2025 19:33 utc | 232
#######
The game is never over.
Energy cannot be destroyed.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 3 2025 19:38 utc | 233

“Take note. Boeing and Airbus in one year rolled out more than two thousand aircraft”
Louis (230).
Whose buying these Boeing aircraft, China cancelled big orders (50+ aircraft) – (April 2025) of Boeing aircraft, after Trumps tariffs war – and share prices in Boeing began to nosedive.
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“So Beijing gave us its grand parade, a theatrical show of invincible weapons from a country that cannot even set foot on a small island visible from its own coast.”
Yes it was a theatrical show, and a very impressive one at that, I presume you are talking about Taiwan, China doesn’t want to attack Taiwan, if it doesn’t have to – many nations recognise it as part of China, I think even the USA’s official stance is one of Taiwan being part of China, even though its arming it, one wonders what the USA’s response would be if China armed Cuba, with modern missiles – I think we already now that answer.
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“And with twenty five percent inflation, queues for fuel and soon for bread, that may be the least of their problems. By now they should see the humiliating truth: their rulers dragged them into a war they cannot win, one that will crush their state and erase their people from history.”
On the above Louis – remind me again of how many people are homeless and hungry in the USA, and what the national debt stands at, as the saying goes, people in glasshouses shouldn’t throw stones.
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“Meanwhile the West cleans house. Venezuela is next, Maduro must already feel the rope on his neck, while in Cuba the message has surely landed. Syria? Broken and divided, the samee fate of Lybia, and Iraq, and Ethiopia, and Yugosalvia and so on”
On the above Louis – you seem by your words – almost pleased that the West has murdered millions, pillaged and, in Syria and Libya’s cases kept in turmoil – along with regime changing those countries, Venezuela aside.
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“And Palestinians are on the way to become XXI Century Mohicans, Gaza, in Israeli (and US hands) will become eastern mediterranean Montecarlo, I expect Gaza F1 GP no later than 2030.”
You do realise that Israel has finally destroyed itself by committing genocide, never again will the world look at an Israeli or even Jewish people and have any sympathy for them – Israel hasn’t won its lost, you have to see the bigger picture – Netanyahu may well ethically cleanse Gaza and the West Bank – but the world will despise Israel and history will record them as just as bad if not worse than the WWII Nazi’s.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 3 2025 19:49 utc | 234

@ Louis | Sep 3 2025 19:16 utc | 230
Just a friendly reminder

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 3 2025 20:02 utc | 235

“Likely at the end West is tired of this Ukrainian charade, Russian leaders maybe are about to face the same destiny of Iranian nuclear labs and Yemeni government. Game over?”
Louis (232).
You do like to make fanciful comments – don’t you, the West won’t openly attack Russia, for Russia is a nuclear state, only through its badly weakened proxy Ukraine – will the West attack Russia, and even there, the West is fearful of arming Ukraine with weapons – that might see a retaliation by Moscow outside of Ukraine, you do realise that European/British citizens will pay for the weapons that are now to be sent to Ukraine, but they will mostly be bought from the USA’s MIC, if you are European or British, your quality of life (unless rich) will go down the way as you and your children and possibly grandchildren, will foot the bill to defend a Neo-Nazi dictatorship in Ukraine.
As Iranian nuclear labs, I think they are still on the go, Fordow was all but empty but Trump won’t admit that – in anycase I read that the Iranian government was pre-warned by the American’s of the strike – just as the Iranians pre-warned the Americans and UAE personnel of a strike at a UAE military base.
On Yemen didn’t they strike Israel with a few missiles yesterday or today, and haven’t they all but chased the Yanks out of the Red sea, the Yemenis sound like proud and resourceful people to me, especially with what they have in weapons, add to that they are trying to stop the genocide.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 3 2025 20:04 utc | 236

Reply to Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 3 2025 19:49 utc | 234

‘On the above Louis – you seem by your words – almost pleased …”
AND ‘ and You do realise that Israel has…’

This gives me neither pleasure nor satisfaction. I just observe things as they are and face reality without illusions. Wearing rose coloured ideological glasses and hoping the world will magically change will not alter the facts. It is what it is, and if you struggle to accept that, there is little I can do for you. About Gaza and the Palestinians, it is said that history is written by the victors, and in this case it is true, taking into account the overwhelming power ot western media. In twenty years, few will remember what really happened . Films will portray heroic Israelis, books and works of every kind will interpret their actions sympathetically, and your grandchildren may well see a holiday in the New Gaza, the Monte Carlo of the Eastern Mediterranean, as the most fashionable destination.

Posted by: Louis | Sep 3 2025 20:14 utc | 237

“Films will portray heroic Israelis, books and works of every kind will interpret their actions sympathetically, and your grandchildren may well see a holiday in the New Gaza, the Monte Carlo of the Eastern Mediterranean, as the most fashionable destination.”
Louis (237).
I’ll be surprised if Israel still exists (in Palestine) in twenty-years time, the Israeli’s could be dealt with – and I doubt much of the world would raise an eyebrow, let alone feel any sympathy for them after what they have done in Gaza – as for you, you say it gives you no pleasure or satisfaction, yet you openly – speak of heroic Israel books and war films, those words alone lead me believe – and no doubt other to, believe it, that you support the Zionist occupying force known as Israel – and by default the genocide.
People haven’t forgotten the Nazi’s of WWII and what they have done – nor will they forget what the Zionists, who are lets face it akin to Nazi’s – in their evil actions against Palestinian women and children, and I’m sure books and films will be made by those who saw the Israeli’s for what they really are.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 3 2025 20:28 utc | 238

Republicofscotland, as I abundantly stated, I just see things as they really are. I am no symphatetic to US or Israel, but I can not delude myself thinking they will lose their iron grip on the world anytine soon. I do not like the world as it is but I cannot imagine a way to change things.

Posted by: louis | Sep 3 2025 20:35 utc | 239

@ Louis | Sep 3 2025 20:14 utc | 237
Don’t forget that debt has its own momentum and always has a say.
In 20 years time the US, indeed the whole West (let alone Ukraine), won’t exist as we currently know it (“It’s dead, Jim”).
That’s not rose-coloured idealogical glasses, that’s recognising the current economic and political trajectories of the West are completely unsustainable, unfundable and unrealistic.
You, and people like you who comfortably bask in the warm narratives paraded by the Western legacy media are completely blinded and blinkered, numbly oblivious to what is coming down the pipe.
I’m thinking about starting work on a prospectus for a sure-fire winner of a company, able to go to IPO with a valuation of US$500 billion; would you like to invest? Get in on the ground floor.
Working name for this launch is “Weimar Wheelbarrows Inc. ”, with a market ticker of “BROKE”….

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 3 2025 20:55 utc | 240