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August 31, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-198
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Posted by: steel_porcupine | Aug 31 2025 17:31 utc | 45 If this is the story I heard about, Witkoff not showing up to the office really is dereliction of duty. And whatever the source, it’s not a hit piece. On the one hand, the rebuttal is simple enough, saying the dude goes to the office like he’s actually paid to do. J.D. Vance pushing buttons on gullible MAGA on the other hand is not a rebuttal at all. It’s smoke. Is there a fire? Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 1 2025 0:12 utc | 101 Haven’t checked all the posts to see if anyone has mentioned this but I just read that there was another shooting in L’viv. It doesn’t say who. Posted by: George | Sep 1 2025 0:23 utc | 102 Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 1 2025 0:12 utc | 102 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 1 2025 0:24 utc | 103 Today, DJT can talk about his connection w/ President Xi of China, “with whom I have a very good relationship” and VVP, “with whom I have a very good relationship” but now his friends are meeting in Tianjen and Beijing alongside Narendra Modi and also Pezeshkian of Iran and Kim Jong-Un of DPRK and he does not have a prayer to join them. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 1 2025 0:26 utc | 104 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Aug 31 2025 14:58 utc | 22 Posted by: Newbie | Sep 1 2025 0:30 utc | 105 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 1 2025 0:26 utc | 105 Posted by: George | Sep 1 2025 0:36 utc | 106 Posted by: Beobachter II | Aug 31 2025 16:38 utc | 37 Posted by: George | Sep 1 2025 0:46 utc | 107 Like in Syria under international law the so-called “government” in Kiev are terrorists that have forced the legitimate government to appeal for use of the armed forces of Russia against the NATO aggression: Posted by: John | Sep 1 2025 0:56 utc | 108 Posted by: George | Sep 1 2025 0:36 utc | 107 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 1 2025 0:59 utc | 109 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 1 2025 0:59 utc | 110 Posted by: George | Sep 1 2025 1:09 utc | 110 Now it is getting serious. On the 30th of August at 4h30, the ukronazis launched 4 of their new missiles Flamingo to hit a military airport in Crimea. 3 of them where intercepted by S400. The last one hit a field 400 away from the airport. Now the plan is to send 10 of those missiles to hit Moscow: for instance the MoD and the Lubianka. The hit shall be done in daylight for a maximum effect. The yankees – that is Trump – agreed with that plan to “convince” Putin to sit at the negotiation table. It is not likely that those missiles will hit their target, but they could bring some damage to Moscow and its population. Posted by: Naive | Sep 1 2025 1:11 utc | 111 Posted by: George | Sep 1 2025 1:09 utc | 111 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 1 2025 1:12 utc | 112 “I have one word for this mind-set: “rigid.” Posted by: George | Sep 1 2025 1:35 utc | 113 Posted by: Naive | Sep 1 2025 1:11 utc | 112 Posted by: George | Sep 1 2025 1:40 utc | 114 Posted by: George | Sep 1 2025 1:35 utc | 114 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 1 2025 2:02 utc | 115 Update on L’viv shooting incident I posted about earlier (103). It appears that no one was injured, but police have detained someone. Posted by: George | Sep 1 2025 2:02 utc | 116 Just Another NATO-Nazi Canadian Politician For War on Russia Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 1 2025 2:02 utc | 117 A Grok Q&A. Zelensky Threatens ‘New Deep Strikes’ into Russia Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 1 2025 2:35 utc | 119 @ John Gilberts | Sep 1 2025 2:35 utc | 120 Posted by: boneless | Sep 1 2025 3:11 utc | 120 Posted by: canuk | Aug 31 2025 14:59 utc | 24 Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 1 2025 3:18 utc | 121 Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 1 2025 2:02 utc | 118 Posted by: George | Sep 1 2025 3:25 utc | 122 https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/08/31/754104/a-tribute-to-pm-al-rahawi-and-yemeni-ministers-martyred-by-israeli-regime-state-terrorism Posted by: snake | Sep 1 2025 3:38 utc | 123 Posted by: Nooneuknow | Aug 31 2025 16:25 utc | 35 Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 1 2025 3:40 utc | 124 @ 123 George – I agree, bad to the bone: Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 1 2025 3:43 utc | 125 Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 1 2025 3:43 utc | 126 Posted by: George | Sep 1 2025 4:04 utc | 126 The plan for war against Russia doesn’t seem to be working. Posted by: Beobachter II | Sep 1 2025 5:43 utc | 127 Sylenski on German TV today, 01.09 Posted by: Beobachter II | Sep 1 2025 6:05 utc | 128 Posted by: Beobachter II | Sep 1 2025 6:05 utc | 129 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2025 6:40 utc | 129
The announcement is directed to those with access to Western printing machines. Posted by: NameJohan Kaspar | Sep 1 2025 7:32 utc | 130 @karlof1 | Aug 31 2025 15:34 utc | 28 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Sep 1 2025 7:42 utc | 131 The Neo-Nazi regime in Ukraine have arrested a suspect for the killing of the Neo-Nazi Parubiy. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 1 2025 8:14 utc | 132 Modern media: There’s the real report of what is actually happening in Ukraine, then AI turns it all into the opposite with Russia losing, and that is what we are all expected to believe. Zelensky and NATO tell us the second version. Posted by: George | Sep 1 2025 8:17 utc | 133 it’s hard to believe that (possibly) educated people could be so suicidal, but western brainwashing is quite effective, especially when combined with modern education. Some of the comments are worth looking at too: Posted by: Menz | Sep 1 2025 8:51 utc | 135 4. Who cares how many suckers die? We are not like them; we are a cloisonned off group of elites that can be protected by security anyway. Self-chosen ubermenschen or greater humans unlike the common folk. Posted by: jpc | Sep 1 2025 8:55 utc | 136 @ Menz | Sep 1 2025 8:51 utc | 136 Posted by: boneless | Sep 1 2025 9:31 utc | 137 Which leads me to the brutal conclusion…. Posted by: taboo | Sep 1 2025 9:34 utc | 138 Posted by: Menz | Sep 1 2025 8:51 utc | 136 Posted by: SOS | Sep 1 2025 9:45 utc | 139
I wouldn’t rely on this assumption. Europeans want welfare, not warfare. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 1 2025 10:19 utc | 140 “Why did Ukraine suddenly allow young men to leave the country? Posted by: umuntu | Sep 1 2025 10:38 utc | 141 @ umuntu | Sep 1 2025 10:38 utc | 142 Posted by: boneless | Sep 1 2025 10:55 utc | 142 On the positive side: there are calls for general strikes (with no limits in time) all over Europe in September. Posted by: Tom | Sep 1 2025 10:56 utc | 143 Menz, Posted by: Exile | Sep 1 2025 11:16 utc | 144 >>> “On the positive side: there are calls for general strikes (with no limits in time) all over Europe in September.” <<< Posted by: Tom | Sep 1 2025 10:56 utc | 144 . . Ultimately, this is a necessity, yes, as the Blob owns every government. The bongs are already hitting back at the plebs, however. There would be the usual false flag events, and arrests of the leaders. To drive the eurocucks to longterm resistance to the Blob, economic conditions will have to get much worse. They are on their way, mind. Posted by: seer | Sep 1 2025 11:24 utc | 145 Posted by: Menz | Sep 1 2025 8:51 utc | 136 Posted by: canuk | Sep 1 2025 11:51 utc | 146 There are a couple of other possibilities for the youth exodus. Some are the demonstrators against the government and also likely to vote against zekenski. Better to let them go. Posted by: Watcher | Sep 1 2025 11:51 utc | 147 Turkiye’s Mediation on Ukraine Remains in Demand – Putin Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 1 2025 11:58 utc | 148 #149 corrected: Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 1 2025 12:01 utc | 149 Declaration by Porochenko on the street where the ukronazi was terminated: Russia will not succeed to denazify Ukraine. Posted by: Naive | Sep 1 2025 12:02 utc | 150 Posted by: Menz | Sep 1 2025 8:51 utc | 136 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 1 2025 12:17 utc | 151 “Mercouris is an extremely literate guy he surely understands that “brevity is the soul of wit”, but there’s no money in that, granted he does have twins to feed.” Posted by: canuk | Sep 1 2025 12:19 utc | 152 “I would add that in all martial contests, the fast, reckless approach almost always fails against a patient and clear headed opponent. The desire to get it over with quickly typically masks a morbid and irrational fear of the enemy. For the thousandth time, shock and awe only works when it’s proponent enjoys an extreme power advantage. Posted by: canuk | Sep 1 2025 12:25 utc | 153 @ Apollyon (36): Ukraine cancels Hassidic pilgrimage Posted by: Kassandra | Sep 1 2025 12:34 utc | 154 @ Watcher | Sep 1 2025 11:51 utc | 148 Posted by: malenkov | Sep 1 2025 12:47 utc | 155 Menz @136: Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 1 2025 12:57 utc | 156 taboo | Sep 1 2025 9:34 utc | 139 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 1 2025 12:59 utc | 157 Re: Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 31 2025 16:24 utc | 34
Just because Russia has lost substantial influence in Armenia, Azerbaijan, Moldova, Syria and even Finland during the leisurely SMO in Ukraine over the last 3.5 years – who are you to criticise the strategy of going slow? Posted by: Julian | Sep 1 2025 13:08 utc | 158 I have an hypothesis about the border-opening for the young. Posted by: Savonarole | Sep 1 2025 13:14 utc | 159 Kassandra | Sep 1 2025 12:34 utc | 155 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 1 2025 13:17 utc | 160 Posted by: Savonarole | Sep 1 2025 13:14 utc | 160 Posted by: Naive | Sep 1 2025 13:21 utc | 161
I think you are really onto something there. Posted by: Av tonom | Sep 1 2025 13:24 utc | 162 Re: Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 31 2025 17:10 utc | 41
Well, that thalassocracy you suggest would be smack bang next to the Israeli proxy known as Azerbaijan. Posted by: Julian | Sep 1 2025 13:24 utc | 163 >>> “…if the rest of the country understand the borders are now “open” for all, guess what will happen ?” <<< Posted by: Savonarole | Sep 1 2025 13:14 utc | 160 . . What will happen is that the neighbors will occupy "security zones" of rump ukie, long disputed territories, which will shrink the rump further and hasten NATO's fragmentation. Posted by: seer | Sep 1 2025 13:34 utc | 164 Kassandra | Sep 1 2025 12:34 utc | 155 Posted by: canuk | Sep 1 2025 13:40 utc | 165 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 1 2025 10:19 utc | 141 Posted by: snake | Sep 1 2025 14:40 utc | 166 @Sam | Aug 31 2025 17:48 utc | 47
Sure, the US bases in Europe are strictly for cultural exchange. Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 1 2025 14:54 utc | 167 The “Flamingo” first flight: https://southfront.press/flamingos-first-flight-ukraines-long-range-missile-debuts/ Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Sep 1 2025 15:03 utc | 168
It’s likely that ‘allowing young to leave’ is actually a trick to make them all go to the border where they are more easily kidnapped. In fact, Poland is deporting Ukrainians more freely, straight back right now. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 1 2025 15:15 utc | 169 Its just a case of – just keep pushing forward until the job is done. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 1 2025 15:25 utc | 170 Depends on what the sanctions are. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 1 2025 15:26 utc | 171 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 1 2025 15:26 utc | 172 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 1 2025 15:36 utc | 172 The Flamingo is a Taurus. Germany said they would be quiet about which arms are being transferred to Ukraine. I bet when the Russians clean up the debris, it has German writing. Posted by: Caveman | Sep 1 2025 15:50 utc | 173 “western mercenaries AND soldiers.” Posted by: Savonarole | Sep 1 2025 16:00 utc | 174 @ Waymad 119 Posted by: Nomnom9 | Sep 1 2025 16:06 utc | 175 steel_porcupine @173: “Perhaps even puppy-gnawing/nibbling/ankle-nipping secondary sanctions now loom menacingly over Modi as the Euro-pups dig more deeply into their Sanctions Toolkit-?” Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 1 2025 16:13 utc | 176
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/139443 Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 1 2025 16:23 utc | 177 Ukraine loses about 1,245 troops in special military operation zone in past day Posted by: Newbie | Sep 1 2025 16:41 utc | 178 that thalassocracy you suggest would be smack bang next to Israeli’s proxy Azerbaijan. From which there were apparently bombing missions flown against Iran…not the best location – Julian 164 Posted by: S Brennan | Sep 1 2025 17:03 utc | 179
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 1 2025 17:04 utc | 180 “On a scale from 1 to 10, which are worse—bone-crushing sanctions or back-breaking ones-? Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 1 2025 17:23 utc | 181 “who are you to criticise the strategy of going slow?” – Julian 159 Posted by: S Brennan | Sep 1 2025 17:24 utc | 182 “We might actually be on the same side (if you omit the US boosterism)” – Jams O’Donnell 90 Posted by: S Brennan | Sep 1 2025 17:49 utc | 183 around up of “military thinking,some ludicrous Posted by: Jo | Sep 1 2025 18:48 utc | 184
Another six months of the SMO and Russia will remain with only North Korea as its ally; all others will have deserted it, either because they will have understood that the cause is lost (China and India despite their hypocritical pleasantries in self-congratulatory BRICS meetings) or because they will have been invaded, undergone regime change or bombarded back into the Stone Age (I mean Venezuela, Cuba, Yemen, Iran). A truly remarkable result. As for Russia itself, there are already queues for petrol, since its refineries are at the mercy of Western drones thanks to Russia’s antiair defences, sold to gullible people as the finest in the world. Heaven knows what will happen when the Taurus missiles start raining down disguised as Flamingos. What a splendid outcome, truly congratulations Posted by: Louis | Sep 1 2025 19:06 utc | 185
Posted by: Mauro | Sep 1 2025 19:16 utc | 186 S Brennan @185: “…be able to read the clock.” Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 1 2025 19:23 utc | 187 “Gerasimov’s Map” gave rise to versions about the fate of the Odessa and Nikolaev regions Posted by: burak | Sep 1 2025 19:51 utc | 188 I can assure you that if you strike up a relationship with a European, regardless of their social class or political background, in the vast majority of cases they will soon reiterate the point I have made. I have even heard supposedly caring mothers of families, almost foaming at the mouth, say that we must do this to secure a future for their children Posted by: Satepestage | Sep 1 2025 20:21 utc | 189 And frankly none of those people entertains the thought that he might have to fight, it is taken for granted that is a privilege reserved for “les deplorables”. Cept’ sending press gangs into the french banlieus is going to be hilarious… Posted by: Satepestage | Sep 1 2025 20:27 utc | 190 An outbreak of “USA! Rah, rah, rah!” or “Russia doomed in 6 months” sometimes runs into the difficulties of reality:
https://tass.com/world/2010493 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 1 2025 20:28 utc | 191
I respect your opinion (less the ‘bollocks’, I’d have liked a more polite way to express your disagreement). Posted by: Mauro | Sep 1 2025 20:43 utc | 192 @ Mauro | Sep 1 2025 20:43 utc | 195 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 1 2025 21:00 utc | 193
Posted by: Satepestage | Sep 1 2025 20:27 utc | 193 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 1 2025 21:07 utc | 194 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 1 2025 21:00 utc | 196 Posted by: seer | Sep 1 2025 21:08 utc | 195 These people do not speak about the Russian resources as something needed to survive, they speak about them as a way to become rich. It is the spirit of looters, which seemed to have disappeared after the end of the colonial empires, but now returns like a fire that was hidden under the ashes. Posted by: hopehely | Sep 1 2025 21:11 utc | 196 Meanwhile, “Winter is coming…”:
https://en.topwar.ru/270357-ukraine-ne-hvataet-gaza-na-zimu-na-summu-14-milliarda-evro.html Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 1 2025 21:37 utc | 197 “Lithuania, following Finland and Poland, is considering restoring previously drained swamps on the border with Belarus, citing increased security, said Nerius Zabliauskis, director of the Swamp Restoration and Protection Fund.” Posted by: drinky crow | Sep 2 2025 0:27 utc | 198 Posted by: Mauro | Sep 1 2025 20:43 utc | 195 Posted by: Satepestage | Sep 2 2025 0:28 utc | 199 English Outsider @ 65: Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 2 2025 0:34 utc | 200 |
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