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August 31, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-198
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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🇪🇺 NATO defense spending will reach a record $1.6 trillion in 2025, with the US contributing $980 billion and European allies together with Canada contributing $608 billion. Posted by: Jo | Aug 31 2025 12:49 utc | 1 ♨️ Today, the U.S. State Department approved the sale of six Patriot systems to Denmark for the needs of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, worth $8.5 billion — DSCA. Posted by: Jo | Aug 31 2025 12:51 utc | 2 🇪🇺🏴☠️ The European Commission will present a defense investment roadmap in the coming weeks. Posted by: Jo | Aug 31 2025 12:56 utc | 3 I’m not a big fan of Orban’s government, but this is true – European citizens and those in Britain will keep on footing the bill – to prop-up the Neo-Nazi dictatorship in Ukraine. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 31 2025 13:18 utc | 4 “NATO defense spending will reach a record $1.6 trillion in 2025, with the US contributing $980 billion and European allies together with Canada contributing $608 billion.” Posted by: canuk | Aug 31 2025 13:20 utc | 5 Apparently – Russia will just keep pushing forward in Ukraine until the jobs done. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 31 2025 13:20 utc | 6 Russia seems to upping its attacks, and they are larger in scale. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 31 2025 13:23 utc | 7 Looks like Russia got a great deal, no, a MAGA deal from the US in Alaska. The EU got a MEGA deal also, they can piss all over Russia at their leisure. And Russia, well, they have clearly won the SlogMo, maybe another two, three, four years perhaps and it’ll be all over……not taking bets on for whom. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 31 2025 13:24 utc | 8 After 7 October, Israel demonstrated how explicitly the calculus of war-faring mentality has shifted, opting not just for measured strategies & rational battlefield tactics against Hamas but an unvarnished zero-sum style of indiscriminate destruction that respected neither non-combatants nor civilians. It has featured genocide and decapitation strikes against the adversary’s leadership as first weapons of choice. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Aug 31 2025 13:25 utc | 9 @ canuk | Aug 31 2025 13:20 utc | 5 Posted by: I forgot | Aug 31 2025 13:29 utc | 10 ISS paper demands: “the EU must actively ‘unpower’ Russia”. Posted by: p3t3r | Aug 31 2025 13:34 utc | 11 Posted by: I forgot | Aug 31 2025 13:29 utc | 10 Posted by: canuk | Aug 31 2025 13:39 utc | 12 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 31 2025 13:24 utc | 8 Posted by: canuk | Aug 31 2025 13:43 utc | 13 @4 Posted by: paddy | Aug 31 2025 13:57 utc | 14 since all of NATO is now admitting it is waring on Russia. Posted by: snake | Aug 31 2025 13:58 utc | 15 You are confusing the entire US defense budget with its NATO contribution. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 31 2025 13:58 utc | 16 Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 29th August 2025: May be Useful to Some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-b6a Posted by: The Busker | Aug 31 2025 14:04 utc | 17 Turkeye may rail against genocide but still ship energy products. Posted by: rk | Aug 31 2025 14:14 utc | 18 You are confusing the entire US defense budget with its NATO contribution. Posted by: canuk | Aug 31 2025 14:19 utc | 19 canuk | Aug 31 2025 14:19 utc | 19 Posted by: Mexicana | Aug 31 2025 14:37 utc | 20 DJT assured European pups in the Oval that “Putin is open to Western allies offering security guarantees to Ukraine,” even though Russia’s Foreign Ministry quickly corrected this misconception, in real-time in fact as DJT was making the claim on live TV. Preferring to hear what they wanted to hear, the Euro pups ran w/ the idea—and they’re still running, filling their days & agendas & their Zoom-tiled meet-ups w/ strategies for stationing peacekeepers in Ukraine. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Aug 31 2025 14:54 utc | 21 The Ukrainian counter-attacks are getting weaker and weaker. In the Pokrovsk area, the Russians have already dealt with the counter-attacks and are now back on the offensive – both northeast of Pokrovsk and in directly storming Pokrovsk (see the video below). The classic tactic is to withdraw somewhat under attack, creating a killing field for the attacking troops given their overwhelming superiority in artillery, aircraft, helicopters, armoured vehicles and now even drones. Once the attacking force has been substantially weakened, then the Russians go back on the offensive. In effect, the Ukrainians play into the Russians hands. Posted by: Roger Boyd | Aug 31 2025 14:58 utc | 22 RE: #21 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Aug 31 2025 14:59 utc | 23 Posted by: Mexicana | Aug 31 2025 14:37 utc | 20 Posted by: canuk | Aug 31 2025 14:59 utc | 24 “You’ll have to forgive people for not possessing the discernment that you do when it comes to the funding of Nazi pedophiles and war criminals. Posted by: canuk | Aug 31 2025 15:03 utc | 25 So its alright when LD calls m ‘Nazi’, that’s fine; my God, you are the ‘tedious’ one. Posted by: Nooneuknow | Aug 31 2025 15:14 utc | 26 Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky has threatened new strikes into Russia, days after claiming that Kiev possessed a brand-new long-range missile capable of reaching Moscow. Posted by: Jo | Aug 31 2025 15:27 utc | 27 Towards the end of the chat between Larry Johnson, Colonel Wilkerson and Nima last Friday, Mr. Johnson finally came out and said something I posited back in 2022, paraphrased–The Outlaw US Empire’s goal is to finish the job Hitler began with his Plan Ost–to which Colonel Wilkerson agreed. They posited that plan began in the early 1990s under Clinton, but the historical record shows it began in 1945. The Full Spectrum Domination policy goal built on the Wolfowitz Doctrine is what was articulated in 1996 and 1999 under Clinton. And we must also factor in the Clean Break and 911 into that overall policy mix. As the two Larrys agreed, US Empire Elites don’t give a damn about who and how many die for their goals to be attained. The chat is long–100 minutes–but is worth the time to watch as they reveal an enemy within the USA that’s rarely discussed–the Evangelical Zionists–and their ties to Russophobia within the Empire. One major actor is Peter Thiel who’s little better than Parubiy and merits a similar fate. Posted by: Nooneuknow | Aug 31 2025 15:14 utc | 26 Posted by: canuk | Aug 31 2025 15:34 utc | 29 This represents a significant shift in narrative for US news consumer consumption: for Tyler Durden’s piece about Parubiy, before you click on the piece, the following text appears just below Parubiy’s picture: Posted by: frithguild | Aug 31 2025 15:46 utc | 30 For the record, I have not called any members of the bar Nazis. Some folks reveal their neuroses by seeing accusations that were never made. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 31 2025 15:47 utc | 31 This might have already been linked in b’s thread on Parubiy’s assassination. Analyst Nadezhda Romanenko (at RT) recounts where Occam’s Razor cuts:
https://www.rt.com/russia/623767-dark-secret-parubiy-assassination/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 31 2025 15:52 utc | 32 Lovedumbass certainly did call me a Nazi, just like he called Jane a ,’Nazi’ a few days ago. Posted by: Nooneuknow | Aug 31 2025 16:13 utc | 33 I read M. K. Bhadrakumar’s West Asia is lurching toward war article yesterday and caught this gem related to the War Against Russia [WAR] in ex-ukrainia: Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 31 2025 16:24 utc | 34 the Evangelical Zionists–and their ties to Russophobia within the Empire. One major actor is Peter Thiel who’s little better than Parubiy and merits a similar fate. Posted by: Nooneuknow | Aug 31 2025 16:25 utc | 35 Oh vey! Posted by: Apollyon | Aug 31 2025 16:36 utc | 36 Expert: Europe is at war with Russia, NATO soldiers are increasingly replacing Ukrainian units Posted by: Beobachter II | Aug 31 2025 16:38 utc | 37 “an Israeli attack on Iran can be expected sooner rather than later. The Israeli-American expectation could be that Russia’s military operations in Ukraine will have reached a climactic point by autumn which would almost certainly preclude any scope for Moscow to get involved in a West Asian conflict, and that, in turn, will give them a free hand to take the regime change agenda to its finish. Posted by: Ich lese nur mit | Aug 31 2025 16:50 utc | 38 “that you do…[the] funding of Nazi pedophiles and war criminals” Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 31 2025 16:56 utc | 39 “canuk is not a Nazi.” Posted by: canuk | Aug 31 2025 17:09 utc | 40 Ich lese nur mit 38, Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 31 2025 17:10 utc | 41 *** before you click on the piece, the following text appears just below Parubiy’s picture: Posted by: frithguild | Aug 31 2025 17:14 utc | 42 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 31 2025 13:24 utc | 8 Posted by: kupkee | Aug 31 2025 17:21 utc | 43 Zelensky doing a bit of sabre rattling. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 31 2025 17:22 utc | 44 Extracurricular bulljive related to Project Ukraine: Posted by: steel_porcupine | Aug 31 2025 17:31 utc | 45 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 31 2025 13:24 utc | 8 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 31 2025 17:34 utc | 46 @Canuk 12 Posted by: Sam | Aug 31 2025 17:48 utc | 47 Who resurrected nato? Posted by: Sam | Aug 31 2025 17:49 utc | 48 Cecil von Renthe-Fink is a mere footnote in the pages of history. A Prussian aristocrat who joined the Nazi Party in 1939, Renthe-Fink however has a claim to fame. In August 1943, he drafted a memorandum proposing a European economic union with a common central bank and currency. But there was a caveat – if the new union was to be a success, Britain must be kept out because according to the German diplomat it was “the continent’s ancient enemy”. Posted by: Sam | Aug 31 2025 17:50 utc | 49 This New York Times article is nearly a week old so I imagine the more aware barflies have already brought it up, but for anyone who may have missed it, the headline reads:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/25/world/europe/ukraine-military-war-pregnancy.html Posted by: FakeBelieve | Aug 31 2025 17:56 utc | 50 *** Politico did a hit piece on Witkoff, and JD took issue. *** Posted by: frithguild | Aug 31 2025 17:58 utc | 51 you stoop to irrelevant ad hominens. Posted by: natrat | Aug 31 2025 18:05 utc | 52 Russia should hurry to annihilate the English empire of evil pirate pests Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 31 2025 18:28 utc | 53 Posted by: frithguild | Aug 31 2025 17:58 utc | 51 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Aug 31 2025 18:29 utc | 54 Alexander Mercouris Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 31 2025 18:31 utc | 55 Why did Ukraine suddenly allow young men to leave the country? Posted by: Nobody Special | Aug 31 2025 18:32 utc | 56 Nooneuknow | Aug 31 2025 16:25 utc | 35– Haven’t been here in a while maybe this has already been posted:
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 31 2025 18:45 utc | 58 Maybe it’s simply that Witkoff has neglected to meet w/ that old Russia Hand from way-back, Fiona Hill-? Posted by: frithguild | Aug 31 2025 18:54 utc | 60 To #42, Zero Hedge always capitulates: Parubiy was partner w. US government: “This June 15, [2017] two of the most influential Republicans in Congress, [Republican] House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senator John McCain, held court with Parubiy in Washington…. Posted by: susan mullen | Aug 31 2025 19:03 utc | 61 @ 51 Posted by: Hodes | Aug 31 2025 19:17 utc | 62 @Posted by: p3t3r | Aug 31 2025 13:34 utc | 11
And thinking about ukraine and Palestine the next part is nothing more than a written confession that they are the worst kind of hypocrites and liars:
Posted by: Ed Bernays | Aug 31 2025 19:18 utc | 63 news with anon sources about diplomacy are bs news. Posted by: frithguild | Aug 31 2025 19:23 utc | 64 Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 31 2025 18:31 utc | 55 Posted by: English Outsider | Aug 31 2025 19:23 utc | 65 they need a theme to sound reasonable – for their evil mr. burns plans. Posted by: Hodes | Aug 31 2025 19:25 utc | 66 I think this makes a very important point. Posted by: John | Aug 31 2025 19:26 utc | 67 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 31 2025 18:28 utc | 53 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Aug 31 2025 19:27 utc | 68 Patrick Lancaster is a dufus but he means well, early on Bentley and some other UK indie journalist in the Donbas made fun of him as an opportunist which I thought was unwarranted, it had the feel of picking on the slow kid, anyway Lancaster is still around, still holding the front asking the same lame repetitive questions, occasionally one of his clickbait headlines suckers me and I clicked on this one, and occasionally Lancaster stumbles on gold, like this interview: Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 31 2025 19:29 utc | 69 Posted by: Beobachter II | Aug 31 2025 16:38 utc | 37 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Aug 31 2025 19:31 utc | 70 “In all martial contests, the fast, reckless approach almost always fails against a patient and clear headed opponent. The desire to get it over with quickly typically masks a morbid and irrational fear of the enemy. For the thousandth time, shock and awe…blah blah..blah“Ahenobarbus 46 Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 31 2025 19:32 utc | 71 how do they keep up with the ukr mil reporting at frontline with all those different language ppl? Posted by: Hodes | Aug 31 2025 19:33 utc | 72 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Aug 31 2025 17:31 utc | 45 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Aug 31 2025 19:37 utc | 73 Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 31 2025 19:32 utc | 71 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Aug 31 2025 19:41 utc | 74 A line worth repeating: Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 31 2025 19:43 utc | 75 Ironically, it was the Crimean War of the 19th century that laid the foundations for the Russian victory in the current war in Ukraine. Yes, you read that right! Posted by: xblob | Aug 31 2025 19:47 utc | 76 “Expert: Europe is at war with Russia, NATO soldiers are increasingly replacing Ukrainian units” Posted by: Apollyon | Aug 31 2025 19:48 utc | 77 English Outsider @ 65
Autoerotic asphyxiation – what a pathetic, ignominious end to tar us all with, 100ys from now WW3 will be a touchy subject to teach grade school kids in Rio de Janeiro, Chongqing, or Mumbai, worse still in Chicago, Lyon, or Manchester. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 31 2025 19:52 utc | 78 when will they crash the western FINSYS? before or after russia wins? Posted by: Hodes | Aug 31 2025 19:58 utc | 79 xblob @ 76
The initiators of WW2, the Brits, could never have imagined they’d have created the Soviet Union that spanned from Central Europe to Central Asia, nor that they’d forfeit their empire to the USA, nor that Germany would come out of WW2 a more prosperous country than them. Best laid plans and all that… Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 31 2025 19:59 utc | 80 Posted by: vargas | Aug 31 2025 19:50 utc | 78 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Aug 31 2025 20:03 utc | 81 The west is escalating again. I am afraid if Russia can handle that. Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 31 2025 20:30 utc | 82 @Ed Bernays Posted by: p3t3r | Aug 31 2025 20:30 utc | 83 Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 31 2025 19:43 utc | 75 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Aug 31 2025 20:32 utc | 84 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 31 2025 18:28 utc | 53 Posted by: kupkee | Aug 31 2025 20:43 utc | 85 Posted by: kupkee | Aug 31 2025 20:43 utc | 86 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 31 2025 20:53 utc | 86 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 31 2025 20:53 utc | 87 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Aug 31 2025 21:02 utc | 87 Jam O’D 85, Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 31 2025 21:20 utc | 88 Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 31 2025 21:20 utc | 89 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Aug 31 2025 21:42 utc | 89 Of the NATO’s $1.6 trillion war chest $1.5 trillion will be wasted on overheads, consultants, fat profit margins of military contractors and propaganda. Spend on weapons will be only a small fraction. It’s nowhere near what it’s rivals will spend on weapons and capabilities. Posted by: Jason | Aug 31 2025 21:47 utc | 90 Posted by: p3t3r | Aug 31 2025 20:30 utc | 84 Posted by: Ed Bernays | Aug 31 2025 21:49 utc | 91 Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 31 2025 21:20 utc | 89 Posted by: ElGordo | Aug 31 2025 22:10 utc | 92 After Ukraine the next target should be Azerbaijan. A Turkish and Israeli vassal unfortunately living between Iran and Russia. It poses multiple threats. Posted by: Jason | Aug 31 2025 22:14 utc | 93 war criminal blair must be publicly hanged AFTER BRUTAL BEATING after a fail trial for his war crimes. Posted by: TheNorthernChef | Aug 31 2025 22:27 utc | 94 @41 Posted by: Jason | Aug 31 2025 22:32 utc | 95 Ukraine does have a 3,000 km missile based on a Soviet missile. But it lacks accuracy. An attack on Russia will cause collateral damage. It is enough justification to nuke Ukraine. Once nuked, remaining 26 million Ukies will run away. They will know the next one is coming. They did live through Chernobyl but could not escape as Soviet Union didn’t open borders. Posted by: Jason | Aug 31 2025 22:40 utc | 96 Sorry to learn of your personal tragedy. Many millions are blind and thus as dangerous as those at Hitler’s rallies. Posted by: Nooneuknow | Aug 31 2025 23:47 utc | 97 Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 31 2025 21:20 utc | 89 FDR was very much a Wilsonian, so imagining the DLC (which was not the same as the DNC) as expunging FDR by returning the party/nation to its Wilsonian past doesn’t make any sense. FDRism started getting cut down with Truman and McCarthy. Also, regardless of whether Democrats were Wilsonian, the nation spent a lot of time with Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush Sr and Bush Jr and Trump first round. It makes no sense to say the nation returned to Wilsonian roots. Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 1 2025 0:03 utc | 98 Ukraine will be a depopulated radioactive wasteland. It allows Ukraine to be occupied and repopulated by Russia. This in turn allows Russia to deploy intermediate range missiles targeting NATO. Posted by: Nooneuknow | Sep 1 2025 0:05 utc | 99 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Aug 31 2025 19:37 utc | 73 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Sep 1 2025 0:07 utc | 100 |
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