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August 10, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-180

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 11 2025 2:22 utc | 189
What you say in the points you elaborate can be described in terms of Kant’s view of noumenon and phenomenon. The former is the real existential state of something in itself, the latter is how it is observed by something outside of it. Obviously the observed state is a construction based on perceptions and interpretations.
Western media tends to milk the phenomenal view for all it is worth and distort this to always present the US/West as if they are the ones with all the power and strength in any issue. They are the ones with the power to decide, never Russia or China or Iran or any other country. In fact they even avoid trying to understand what they say and block out BRICS and other developments as even existing.
They also block out the advance of military technology in the Global South such as hypersonics, satellites, electronic control, and missile defence systems. They generally talk down the rapid technological advance and manufacturing skills of China and Russia’s defence industries.
If they do this then they have a massive influence on how people in the West perceive things, but as you can see, the noumenal side which is really what is going on, is another matter in itself and the reality that is behind what will define the future and not some dreamed up state of it.
At the moment the West/US continues to bathe in former glory thinking it will continue, it is therefore living in the past. But the fact is the future is going to see the advance of what is already observable to many who are not duped by Western talk, and that is the shift in geopolitical dominance from the West towards the Global South.

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 3:29 utc | 201

Brian Berletic and Glenn Diesen: Is the U.S. Setting a Trap for Russia in Alaska?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1fwXBgu6Z5I&pp=0gcJCa0JAYcqIYzv
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Aug 10 2025 13:44 utc | 5
Great discussion. All engineered by the USA – Berletic is 100% Correct. But, Russia is fast heading towards Bankruptcy. Oil Gas revenues have collapsed +25% on already low levels this year, they have blown their 2025 fiscal Budget already by July, the sovereign wealth fund is close to being empty, the Russian economy is in a tailspin, Debt levels and Inflation still spiking higher every month, there is nothing left in the cupboard while they have next to zero trade with the world – the war has fast become unsustainable. Caught between a rock and a hard place.

Posted by: Lindsay | Aug 11 2025 3:29 utc | 202

Why is it so often hard to get this site to load and post comments?

Posted by: Lindsay | Aug 11 2025 3:31 utc | 203

Posted by: Lindsay | Aug 11 2025 3:29 utc | 201
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Stop reading the Moscow Times.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 11 2025 3:43 utc | 204

“Why is it so often hard to get this site to load and post comments?”
Posted by: Lindsay | Aug 11 2025 3:31 utc | 202
I live in America, this site fully loads every time I try and I can read it all. And I have never had a problem posting anything here.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 3:49 utc | 205

amid US and Israeli strikes on nuclear facilities in Fordo, Isfahan, and Natanz.
Posted by: TheTurk | Aug 10 2025 22:55 utc | 155

Posted the day of the Pentagon “briefing” on the Fordow “bombing”.
More comedy from the Pentagon:
Concerning the bombing of the Fordow facility, General Dan Caine said: “And the pilots stated, quote: ‘This was the brightest explosion that I have ever seen. It literally looked like daylight.'”
Not bad for a bomb that is designed to explode eighty meters underground.
Is Dan Caine stupid or just playing his role in the Pantomime (a theatrical entertainment, mainly for children, which involves music, topical jokes, and slapstick comedy…).
All the videos with him claiming this absurdity will soon disappear from the internet.
Watch it while you can, e.g., at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc78GJbpen8 @ 16.08
So, how come the video is still available and how come not a single media outlet has mentioned this OBVIOUS LIE by the General?

There were NO US strikes on Iran,… it was just theater, simply a media bomb, all bullshit.
Obvious at the time and nothing has happened since to change that view.

Posted by: Mr James | Aug 11 2025 4:04 utc | 206

There were NO US strikes on Iran,… it was just theater, simply a media bomb, all bullshit.
Posted by: Mr James | Aug 11 2025 4:04 utc | 205
Lol. Look at at all the bolded text. He is so certain that Trump didn’t bomb Iran!

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 4:09 utc | 207

Posted by: dh-mtl | Aug 10 2025 15:07 utc | 29
“It looks like Putin is trying to help Trump out of this Globalist trap. I am waiting with baited breath to see if they succeed.”
Thanks for framing it in this light. As everyone else here is scratching their head and asking why, your suggestion sounds plausible. I guess we’ll see in a week.

Posted by: Paranaense | Aug 11 2025 4:13 utc | 208

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 10 2025 15:11 utc | 31
“People see what they want to see.”
If you have a better explanation of why Putin is doing this, go ahead and post it.

Posted by: Paranaense | Aug 11 2025 4:19 utc | 209

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 3:22 utc | 199
in response to-
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 11 2025 3:10 utc | 198
Lol. You are nuts but not dumb. All you ever do here is blame jews.
Yes, but they do arguably have a lot to be blamed for.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 11 2025 4:21 utc | 210

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 11 2025 4:21 utc | 209
True, but I see some posters are way too OCD about it, to the exclusion of everything else. It gets old.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 4:31 utc | 211

Lol. Look at at all the bolded text. He is so certain that Trump didn’t bomb Iran!
Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 4:09 utc | 206
YES. Absolutely certain.

Posted by: Mr James | Aug 11 2025 4:41 utc | 212

How will Z be disposed of? Something tells me his options are very limited.. maybe the City of London?
who will make the war crimes list.. and assign responsibility for each of them?

Posted by: snake | Aug 11 2025 4:44 utc | 213

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 4:31 utc | 210
I take your point, and overall agree with it. However,the excesses of the “small hat” tribe of self-chosen overlords to others should not be ignored either.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 11 2025 4:54 utc | 214

Posted by: snake | Aug 11 2025 4:44 utc | 212
“How will Z be disposed of?”
By poison, polonium, or novichok of course. Putin‘s modus operandi is well established in western propaganda. Putin himself will sneak it into his tea.

Posted by: nobody | Aug 11 2025 4:58 utc | 215

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 11 2025 3:09 utc | 197
There isn’t a deal that Putin will agree to that doesn’t include the cessation of weapons supply by the west to the whole of Ukraine and the full demilitarization of Odessa.
Notably the ‘leaked’ version of the supposed deal makes no mention of permitting Ukraine to continue to have military equipment supplied to it. It’s an absolute red line for Russia and it’s that issue above all else that will keep the war going indefinitely.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 11 2025 5:03 utc | 216

Posted by: nobody | Aug 11 2025 4:58 utc | 214
No no! keep up. It will be in his underpants or on the door handle. They will have a checker for the tea.

Posted by: watcher | Aug 11 2025 5:04 utc | 217

Posted by: snake | Aug 11 2025 4:44 utc | 212

“How will Z be disposed of?”

By smearing novichok on the piano keys.
Or polonium on his cocaine straw.

Posted by: Kukulkan | Aug 11 2025 5:13 utc | 218

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 3:29 utc | 200
Great post. I finally understand that Kant thing I never ever seemed to can’t understand. But I’m just some one noumenon, though. ; )
Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 11 2025 4:54 utc | 213
Indeed.
y’know. I think we have all figured out that this is all a gigantic joke. Everyone in power is in on it. They could care less about us. We are watched here. And we figured it out. I live in a neighborhood with driverless cars and little stupid robots called Coco that deliver food to the people that more than likely work for google which down the street from me. Those evil things scare my dogs when I walk them. I am done.

Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 11 2025 5:18 utc | 219

How will Z be disposed of?….
Posted by: snake | Aug 11 2025 4:44 utc | 213

They are going to need a replacement for Netanyahu soon.

Posted by: Mr James | Aug 11 2025 5:22 utc | 220

coco

Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 11 2025 5:24 utc | 221

Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 11 2025 5:18 utc | 219
A lot of people Can’t understand Kant but he is not easy to understand sometimes. Glad it was helpful, and I think it does help to understand how much in our minds can be an illusion not fact, especially when we are exploited by fake news and disinformation.

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 5:30 utc | 222

Posted by: Kukulkan | Aug 11 2025 5:13 utc | 218
Bravo!!
OT Genesis CoCo
This is more than likely the best trap song ever made. IMHO

Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 11 2025 5:32 utc | 223

Now we are talking about Kant? That’s ok I guess. Better than arguing some more about Covid or climate change or Macron’s wife.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 5:39 utc | 224

If we are talking about philophers now I think Ralph Waldo Emerson is more on-topic. That’s only because I have read things from him. I have never read Kant or Heidegger or Locke or Popper or those others.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 5:50 utc | 225

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 5:39 utc | 224
“Now we are talking about Kant?”
If you go back to Melaleuca’s post 189 and see what he says,
then look at what I say in at 201
You’ll see why it is relevant.

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 5:53 utc | 226

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 5:53 utc | 226
Not that I’m some OG here, but do not feed the trolls.
Thou shalt sounds like something Yahwey said. Yahwey or the highway.
I never fully understood why the Iranians stopped a few weeks back. I guess the didn’t totally clean up Tel Aviv.

Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 11 2025 5:59 utc | 227

They can’t replace the piano player, he was turned into a Nato/West symbol. Like his version 1.0, the retard from Georgia who then moved to be governor of Odessa, he will be paraded like a hero regardless of what happens, but hopefully will also end in a mental asylum.
Today their main task for the actor is to validate him a as “leader” by forcing a meeting with Putin to sign documents. That will completely cancel Putin own’s words that he is an illegitimate president and will allow any documents to be easily canceled by the next RF president or junta general, whoever comes next. It’s like the Barents sea trick, if the current guy doesn’t give it for free, you just wait a bit and next guy will give it for free.

Posted by: rk | Aug 11 2025 6:01 utc | 228

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 5:53 utc | 226
It’s all relevant despite my lack of knowledge about this guy or that guy. Kant is fine. I prefer de Toqueville or Mark Twain. Carry on, sorry to intrude.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 6:05 utc | 229

This is what I think the meeting in Alaska will be.
They hate us. Each and everyone of them.

Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 11 2025 6:10 utc | 230

Lol George, Lex Talionis has accused you of “feeding the troll” (me). You are accused of that faux pas quite often, I have noticed. I wish b would provide a clear rules-based-order definition so the trolls were better defined, so one could be more certain of who they are and then never respond to them.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 6:14 utc | 231

@Johan Kaspar | Aug 10 2025 18:48 utc | 104
Thank you for that reply and comment.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 11 2025 6:16 utc | 232

@Perimetr | Aug 10 2025 18:59 utc | 107

That could be the 9M730 Burevestnik (Russian: Буревестник; “Storm petrel”, NATO reporting name: SSC-X-9 Skyfall), a nuclear-powered cruise missile with virtually unlimited range.

If we shall believe Martyanov, it isn’t:

Anybody who still thinks that Oreshnik is somehow the pinnacle of newest hypersonic weapons of Russia, I want to stress, again–learn how Russians approach weapons design and production. What is this newest system Ryabkov is talking about? It is not Iskander-M whose actual range is in thousands kilometers. It is also not Petrel (Burevestnik) which is now in serial production. Highly likely it is something entirely new which we didn’t see before.

https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2025/08/to-people-who-still-get-manipulated.html

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 11 2025 6:18 utc | 233

I agree there were no strikes on the nuclear facilities, and I believe I said so at the time.
The burden of proof is on the Americans. They have lied too many times to get automatic credibility.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 11 2025 6:19 utc | 234

@Norwegian

Since it is mentioned along with the Oreshnik, this unnamed weapon is supposedly based on “new physical principles” as well?

I saw a Scott Ritter presentation where he mentions a second missile which he thinks the Russians have rolled out, based on an older design like Oreshnik is[?] on the SS-26 Rubezh. This missile was planned to act against the Pershings stationed in Germany, and with new nuclear-capable missiles to be stationed there he thinks Russia absolutely needs those. The relevant part starts at 17:22.
FTR, Scott said Oreshnik is made of fancy ceramics rather than with novel principles.

Posted by: persiflo | Aug 11 2025 6:25 utc | 235

Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 11 2025 5:59 utc | 227
He’s not a troll, I thought he was at first, but he’s ok in the end. Like many here (including me) it can be Hisway not Yourway sometimes, and not just Yaweh. Sometimes I think WWIII is actually on these pages, people hold strongly to their views and opinions which is something that Kant’s understanding might enlighten us on. Maybe we should be less defensive of our views given they are products of imagination and perception, and what source can inform ourselves with these days that tells the complete and utter truth?
I don’t know if you read Larry Johnson (Sonar21) but he had a good post on Iran written a few weeks back by and American Indian guy who had actually converted to Islam which explained eloquently how Islamic law constrained how they can act in warfare. But I think Iran thought they had made a point. I don’t think it is over yet and my understanding (if it is correct) is that if Israel cranks up again with another attack the reply will be devastating. Israel has been warned. I think they also thought it a good idea to take a pause to round up the Mossad agents in their country and prepare in conjunction with discussions with Russia and China for the next outbreak when it happens.

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 6:31 utc | 236

I never fully understood why the Iranians stopped a few weeks back. I guess the didn’t totally clean up Tel Aviv.
Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 11 2025 5:59 utc | 227
The Jews had infiltrated enough people into (and killed enough patriots) in the Iranian hierarchy to carry the day.
Also, I guess more than a few were worried about being nuked.

Posted by: Mr James | Aug 11 2025 6:38 utc | 237

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 6:05 utc | 229
Lots of great philosophers around including the Ancient Greeks and some Romans like the Stoics Epictetus and Marcus Aurelius. I like to look at the causes and fundamental layers of what has to be in place to bring about what follows. Everyone chooses the ones they particularly like – and to me that is a plus. Part of my background is study in Western and Eastern philosophy which I have found extremely useful ever since.

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 6:38 utc | 238

“He’s not a troll, I thought he was at first, but he’s ok in the end.”
Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 6:31 utc | 236
“Troll” is obviously an ill-defined term of abuse, entirely relative. I am most definitely a troll for some who hate what I say or how I say it. Not a troll for others who understand what I say without imputing the evil motives. Anyway, thanks for the kind words.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 6:40 utc | 239

Posted by: Mr James | Aug 11 2025 6:38 utc | 237
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The Zionists did not win. The Iranians chose to de-escalate.
The amount of damage Iran did to the occupation will take years to fix.
I don’t agree with many of the decisions Russia, Iran, and China make, but I do believe they are well-thought-out.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 11 2025 6:46 utc | 240

Thank you, George. I often only remember sonar21 from links I find here. MoA is such a wealth of information. I learn so much here. I probably could learn to be more polite as well.
Apologies to all out there. I don’t want to hate on anyone. I also don’t want to derail this thing.
I still think the Iranians should not have stopped because the Zionist Entity would not have stopped had they had the upper hand. But that is for a different thread, and what do I know?
I will bid farewell for tonight and let the door hit me on my way out.
Much love to MoA!

Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 11 2025 6:51 utc | 241

George,
Nobody who is a long-time poster here would ever say that your paisano, Patroklos, is a troll. He is a philosophy professor, as I understand. But the last several comments I have seen from him have been really snarky and rude, targeted against the earnest and diligent poster English Outsider (EO), mainly because b has seen fit to elevate some of EO’s posts to the main front-page as new thread topics. I saw nothing but mildly malevolent envy in those snarky posts, but nobody dared call him a troll. He has seniority here, so he can get away with stuff like that.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 7:05 utc | 242

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 6:40 utc | 239
The funny thing I have found from those who have accused me of feeding the trolls is that I see them do the same thing at times as well, especially when they get irritated by another comment maker. So it just goes to show how we all hold contradictory views sometimes depending on the context of a situation.
It also seems to me that often someone accused of being a ‘troll’ on here is in fact another person who has a view completely the opposite to your own. If the discussion then turns into a fight and the venom and claws come out, then it heads straight towards ad hominem, diatribe, and vituperative talk. Then someone is most surely accused of being a troll.
Of course there are genuine trolls who come on here to spread repeated biased propaganda and gaslighting, but not everybody knows who they are or sees that they are, especially if they have not been on here long. Sock puppets are yet another category, and that clearly identifies a deliberate troll.
Personally I feel quite comfortable defending myself against a troll and try to do it with a good argument (even though I’m praising my own skills). It has often worked and I have rarely had a post removed by B for doing it to his credit. I’ve been writing on readers comments and blogs since the internet went past dial-up (circa 3 BCE) and often the moderator does the job anyway. I try to respect B’s wishes but trolls are not always that easy to detect. I accused you of it once as you would remember.

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 7:23 utc | 243

Brian Berletic on the Putin-Trump Summit in Alaska
And the US Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth — February Statement
This is something I often repeat. In February, US Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth delivered a directive to America’s European allies, essentially saying: “We need to pivot to China. You need to step up and do more in Europe.”
In reality, even if Europe takes on more of the burden, it would still be US generals at the top of Ukraine’s armed forces chain of command. The CIA would still operate through Ukrainian intelligence. US weapons would still be funneled through European intermediaries. It’s all for appearances — it would remain a US proxy war.
The aim is to shift more European resources away from serving the actual interests of the European people and into this proxy war, rather than the United States itself paying for it. That’s the “division of labor” — a term Secretary Hegseth literally used in that directive — and it serves the US goal to pivot toward China.
This is part of a strategic sequencing: pivot to China, deal with China, then circle back to Russia. There is no partnership, no friendship, no future for a sovereign Russia in the worldview of those who run the collective West. They want Russia dismantled and absorbed. That will not change until those interests are replaced — something I do not foresee in the near, intermediate, or even distant future.
If Russia were to fall into the trap of working with the US against China, all they would be doing is setting the stage for their ultimate betrayal. They might buy some time, but without China as an ally, they would be hopelessly outmatched when the US inevitably circles back to them — something US officials have openly stated is their long-term objective.
What I don’t understand is why world leaders keep falling for this. They seem to crave a return to the pre-crisis status quo so badly that they’re willing to believe almost anything. I recall being baffled by Iran negotiating with the US — as if Washington were the rightful arbiter of global nuclear programs. The US laid out its plan on paper 16 years ago and has been implementing it step by step ever since.
During those negotiations, the US — acting through Israel — carried out targeted killings of Iranian military and scientific leaders using American weapons and intelligence. These strikes hit homes in civilian areas, killing people in their beds alongside their families. Iran’s leadership should have anticipated such attacks during the talks, but for some reason, they did not.
This is why I’m wary of any Russia–US negotiations. The fact that we even have to wonder, “Will Russia fall for this?” — and that the answer is not an automatic “no” — is deeply concerning.
@16:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=1fwXBgu6Z5I

Posted by: Lindsay | Aug 11 2025 7:34 utc | 244

steven t johnson@116
“Us control over Europe via NATO depends on the war with Russia continuing”
The US controls EU (and other “allies”) via NGO planted politicians.

Posted by: ArmChairGeneral | Aug 11 2025 7:36 utc | 245

@ lex talionis | Aug 11 2025 5:24 utc | 221
You mean Zelensky will be disposed of via one of these? It is a perfect way to deliver a bomb, isn’t it?

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 11 2025 7:40 utc | 246

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 7:05 utc | 242
This is one of the best places to see the rough edges of the human ego and particularly Freud’s concept of the ID on full display. Dogs tearing each other apart when it gets out of hand. It’s often more fully on display because no one hides behind a polite public persona: no one can actually punch you in the face, unlike in a real bar. You get raw emotions here, in real situations people are often far more polite. It’s a great place to observe human defensive mechanisms at work too.
It is thus a good place to learn how not to get upset even if people are extremely nasty to you, which helps to develop patience and learn good diplomatic skills, much like many here expect their politicians to have. It’s also good for learning how to either modify your views when someone has a better argument than your own, and you can learn how not to suffer if others disagree with you by removing the personal from what is being said. That means you get the opportunity to work more effectively and more in harmony with other people, and also believe more fully in your own views even if people gang up on you and exclude you from the group = cancel culture. It is thus a great practical opportunity provided here by B. to master all of those skills.

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 7:46 utc | 247

Now we are talking about Kant?
@ ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 5:39 utc | 224

Ludwig Feuerbach is my favorite long-dead philosopher to worry about, lately. Just a little something to test the limits of a feeble mind (my own, that is). But I think your point is well-taken that too much digression has occupied MoA’s Palestine & Ukraine threads, lately. Immanuel Kant isn’t exactly breaking news, but he can go into the OT thread if necessary.
Regarding RF’s war with NATO in Ukraine, especially Friday’s meeting in Alaska, Putin’s attitude going into this is very difficult for me to understand. Given USA’s long record of chicanery, including a recent assassination attempt against Putin, I’m puzzled by Putin’s courage — appearing to ignore a real personal risk. There must be some feasible outcome Putin contemplates from this meeting which I can’t know about. At this point, knowing nothing further, flying to Alaska seems foolhardy.
I’m particularly disgusted to see Witkoff, the known liar, credited with setting this up. Putin better snap out of it. It wouldn’t be good for Russia or the world if he got himself killed.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 11 2025 7:47 utc | 248

@LoveDonbass

What to do is a difficult question.

Kant agrees.

Posted by: persiflo | Aug 11 2025 7:47 utc | 249

Iran’s leadership should have anticipated such attacks during the talks, but for some reason, they did not.
Posted by: Lindsay | Aug 11 2025 7:34 utc | 244

Iran’s leadership is infiltrated. Jew assets in many positions.

Posted by: Mr James | Aug 11 2025 7:48 utc | 250

@George | Aug 11 2025 7:23 utc | 243
A troll is someone who tries to derail a discussion/information exchange. Someone with a genuine opposite view isn’t necessarily a troll.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 11 2025 7:56 utc | 251

Of course there are genuine trolls who come on here to spread repeated biased propaganda and gaslighting, but not everybody knows who they are or sees that they are, especially if they have not been on here long. Sock puppets are yet another category, and that clearly identifies a deliberate troll.
Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 7:23 utc | 243

For sure. Deliberate trolls, as I see it, are the ones who always say Putin is a weak traitor and Russia has lost because they don’t nuke everyone soon enough. And the ones who loudly and repeatedly say “Putin abandoned Syria”. And of course the ones who vociferously insist that “Putin is Jew!”.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 8:01 utc | 252

Posted by: Lindsay | Aug 11 2025 7:34 utc | 244
“This is something I often repeat. In February, US Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth delivered a directive to America’s European allies, essentially saying: “We need to pivot to China. You need to step up and do more in Europe.”
I just want to jump in here as say:
The reason they need to pivot to China ASAP is because they want to destroy China’s advance on technology. I have read today that the thinking behind the current administration’s economic plan involves the advance of US technology and AI as they still consider themselves ahead. It’s not about employing Americans at all to MAGA, but instead about using robotic technology and AI, and staying in advance that way. It means little wages to pay (too bad for Americans) and so would allow competition against China. It is why the head of Apple got tariffs removed for his gold and (cellphone) glass trophy he presented to Trump. The glass was made using AI and robotic methods. The full explanation is much longer than this, and why tariffs will not affect these corporate elites, but it is important information concerning the motives for triggering the next war against China.

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 8:03 utc | 253

related?
Iran has condemned a US plan to establish and control a transit route through Armenia, warning that it poses a threat to regional stability and would undermine Tehran’s security interests.
On Friday, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev, and US President Donald Trump signed an agreement in Washington to open the Zangezur transport corridor. The route links mainland Azerbaijan to its exclave of Nakhichevan through a narrow strip of land in southern Armenia along the border with Iran.
Under the agreement, the US will manage the corridor under Armenian sovereignty via a 99-year land lease, subletting it to a consortium for construction and operations.
While Tehran said it welcomes peace agreements between Yerevan and Baku, it “vehemently” opposes placing the corridor under US control. Iranian officials argue that it would cut Iran off from Armenia and destabilize the South Caucasus by allowing a foreign military and commercial presence.
Ali Akbar Velayati, senior adviser to Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, called the project a geopolitical scheme by the US and Israel to weaken the Islamic Republic, sever its connection with the Caucasus, and impose a land blockade on both Iran and Russia. He claimed it was part of a wider NATO-backed strategy, supported by pan-Turkic movements, to shift the Western focus from Ukraine to the Caucasus.
“The Caucasus is one of the most sensitive geographical points in the world, and this corridor will not be a transit route in Trump’s possession but a graveyard for his mercenaries,” Velayati said, adding that Russia is also “strategically against” the project.
Moscow has said it welcomes efforts to achieve stability and prosperity in the South Caucasus and to normalize relations between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova stressed that the best solutions are those developed by the countries in the region and their immediate neighbors — specifically Russia, Iran, and Turkey.
She noted that trilateral agreements signed by Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Russia after the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war remain in force and relevant, and that Armenia’s border with Iran continues to be guarded by Russian border forces under a 1992 treaty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zangezur_corridor

Posted by: Lindsay | Aug 11 2025 8:06 utc | 254

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 7:46 utc | 247
That’s a helluva insighful post and well written. I would only add that anonymity is a big part of it, but maybe that was already implicit in your post.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 8:09 utc | 255

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 11 2025 7:56 utc | 251
“A troll is someone who tries to derail a discussion/information exchange. Someone with a genuine opposite view isn’t necessarily a troll.”
I didn’t a say it was, and I did try to define it if you fully read what I wrote. What I said is that I often observe when someone does try to derail a discussion, and it gets out of control, then they can also be accused of being a troll. That’s my observation, it may not be yours.

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 8:10 utc | 256

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 8:09 utc | 255
Yep ‘anonymity’ is a good word that would add to what I wrote. Thank you

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 8:14 utc | 257

Sock puppets are yet another category, and that clearly identifies a deliberate troll.
Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 7:23 utc | 243
Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 8:01 utc | 252
Um, I wonder who this prolific ThouShalt commenter used to be known as?

Posted by: Lindsay | Aug 11 2025 8:16 utc | 258

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 8:01 utc | 252
Deliberate trolls are the ones who always say Putin is a weak traitor and Russia has lost because they don’t nuke everyone soon enough. And the ones who loudly and repeatedly say “Putin abandoned Syria”. And of course the ones who vociferously insist that “Putin is Jew!”.

Yes, those are obvious. But behind them come others with more sophisticated approaches:
* As poster anonymous did: provoking activity by presenting data. (In his case, about the slow progress of the Russian army in Ukraine.)
* As poster vargas does: seemingly naive questions.
Both work well to drown the forum in shit because many posters will try to refute the data (or what was implied from the data) in the first case, or to answer the question in the second case. I’ve been there.
But as yesterday’s thread has shown: any piece of news has the ability to turn a forum like this into a henhouse of headless chickens. For a while, the most important topic was whether Friday, August 14 will see the demise of Vladimir Putin, of Donald Trump or both. In the absence of news, the 10% Nuclear War Now faction is always at the ready, and I don’t mean the metal label.
I sometimes idly wonder how a forum like MOA is relevant enough that someone is willing to pay money for its disruption. As far as non-mainstream media go (from the Western point of view), this place is small.

Posted by: Konami | Aug 11 2025 8:17 utc | 259

Another problem the trolls create is the paranoia most of us develop because of them. Which is, I think, central to their purpose: to damage or at least disturb the site beyond well-being. When they manage to get us to not trust anyone they’ve won.
I’m grateful to Jeremy Rhyme, to English Outs, to George, and several others, even to the sometimes dubious LoveDom (sorry about that) for keeping the sanity in the bar so not all the glass is broken at once.

Posted by: Avtonom | Aug 11 2025 8:35 utc | 260

When someone is trying derailing a thread , the best attitude is ignore and re-rail 🙂
So, let me see .. since the announcement of “the talks” in Alaska, it seems the VKS launched less deep-strikes on Banderistan with drones and missiles.
They didn’t stop, just less numerous vectors flying above 404 each night.
It’s improbable the target list magically reduced itself, it’s also improbable vector production was halted or the stocks being blooded dry.
The only lasting possibility are logistic and political, let’s see if strikes resumes or not after “the talks”.
On the other hand, Southfront just published and interesting insight about new Geran variant with a camera, apparently used for in depth mining with anti-tank bouncing mines : the Geran concept is becoming “the little drone that can” of this war with variants and usages lists growing steadily.

Posted by: Savonarole | Aug 11 2025 8:38 utc | 261

While trolls invade the forum, including one who uses the handle of a known sodomite, Russia has apparently made a big breakthrough on the front:
https://x.com/Playfra0/status/1954581000035652034

At Zolotyi Kolodyaz’, Russia 🇷🇺 had first contact with Ukraine 🇺🇦’s New Donbas Line, and its DRGs broke through it for the first time, with the Ukrainians suffering from catastrophic manpower shortages.
In the long term, this might endanger all of Ukrainian-controlled Donbas.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 11 2025 8:39 utc | 262

But as yesterday’s thread has shown: any piece of news has the ability to turn a forum like this into a henhouse of headless chickens. For a while, the most important topic was whether Friday, August 14 will see the demise of Vladimir Putin, of Donald Trump or both.
Posted by: Konami | Aug 11 2025 8:17 utc | 259
Maybe some of us were watching TV when President Kennedy got his head blown off and this affected the way we view the way the US “government” works. I have watched carefully since that day and IMHO this double tap-taking out both leaders would be “their” crowning glory. Bringing “their” malfeasance to light/awareness might prevent it from actually happening because they know everyone is prepared for it and “they” only like to surprise people. You know surprises like 9/11……etc,etc. Also it is the 15th not 14th.

Posted by: CeaClearly | Aug 11 2025 8:40 utc | 263

@George | Mon, 11 Aug 2025 07:46:00 GMT | 247

This is one of the best places to see the rough edges of the human ego and particularly Freud’s concept of the ID on full display […]

Good post. I wonder if you have a background in psychology as well? I don’t, but I find it all so fascinating that I sometimes feel like a practitioner of sorts.

Posted by: persiflo | Aug 11 2025 8:44 utc | 264

I’m particularly disgusted to see Witkoff, the known liar, credited with setting this up. Putin better snap out of it. It wouldn’t be good for Russia or the world if he got himself killed.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 11 2025 7:47 utc | 248

Putin is in absolutely no danger.
Putin, Trump and Zelensky are all Jews.

Posted by: Mr James | Aug 11 2025 8:47 utc | 265

Anyone who cares to read history will see that for the US there is precedence for deceit in peace talks.
Andrew Jackson was president of the United States when Seminole leader Osceola was captured during peace talks in 1837 under the white flag of truce. The US thinks nothing of taking out leaders in “faked” peace negotiations.

Posted by: CeaClearly | Aug 11 2025 8:52 utc | 266

Posted by: persiflo | Aug 11 2025 8:44 utc | 264
I have mostly studied cognitive science which connects with psychology in many areas, but also having a curious mind (and wanting to understand it myself) I have been reading psychology books and associated internet-based material for years. It is well worth the trouble to understand the basics, Freud and Jung for example, and places like MoA are great for getting a practical lesson in many of the concepts that are discussed. This is a free site with basic concepts very well explained without resorting to textbooks: https://www.simplypsychology.org

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 9:03 utc | 267

Today’s Going Underground has an interview of Afshin Rattansy with Prof. Jeffrey Sachs on the latest developments. To say that Sachs is highly critical of Trump would be an understatement.
https://www.rt.com/shows/going-underground/622696-sachs-trump-putin-meeting-outcome/

Posted by: grunzt | Aug 11 2025 9:14 utc | 268

Putin going to Alaska to meet Trump.
Reminds me so much of a Peanuts cartoon that I recall circa 1968. Lucy holds the football for Charlie Brown to run up and kick. As he reaches the ball, Lucy snatches the ball away and the hapless Charlie Brown falls flat on his back. Three times Lucy promises not to do this and three times she does it and Charlie Brown ends up on his back.
Could someone send this cartoon to Putin or his advisors? How dumb are the Russians in agreeing to meet Trump in the US and what do the Russians think will be achieved? Did Minsk 1 and Minsk 2 demonstrate nothing?
Line that ball up again Charlie Brown………….Lucy’s promised she’ll not pull the ball away..

Posted by: Vragtes | Aug 11 2025 9:14 utc | 269

Here is the opinion of an Ukrainian-American exchange student who, without speaking ingles, moved directly from Kyiyiv to Stanford, Harvard, Goldman Sachs, McKinsey, WEF, then to RF to manage billions and everything, all in around 10 years.
“The dialogue between Putin and Trump will bring hope, peace, and global security,” Kirill Dmitriev
Strangely, he doesn’t say who broke all agreements and treaties and the entire global security.

Posted by: rk | Aug 11 2025 9:19 utc | 270

Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 11 2025 5:03 utc | 216
I can not see VVP walking away from the basic principles he and the RF have articulated over the past four years. No Western supported militarisation of a future Ukraine-assuming that it continues to exist.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 11 2025 9:34 utc | 271

Posted by: CeaClearly | Aug 11 2025 8:40 utc | 263
Maybe some of us were watching TV when President Kennedy got his head blown off and this affected the way we view the way the US “government” works.

My point wasn’t that murder at Anchorage is out of the question. Assassination has always been an option: Caesar, Lincoln, Palme, Soulimani, among very many others.
What makes me stop reading/posting at MOA are the breathless stabs at a pre-destined future (and I don’t mean the trolls who are just doing their jobs): “X will die”, “Putin must X”, “only nuclear weapons will prevent X”.
At the very least, comments like those are condescending: nobody in Russia or China needs to be educated about the duplicity of the West. Not only do they know from history, it’s a recurring topic of their leading politicians. Additionally, nothing that we write here is read by people that decide — we write for ourselves, to hopefully get a better picture and, perhaps perhaps, make a slightly more informed decision in the future.
So a page full of MOA postings about Putin’s upcoming assassination look to me like: screams for attention, hyperbole, diversion. On top of the trolls’ work!
A historical fact: there have been many attacks on Soviet leaders (Lenin, Stalin, Brezhnev, Gorbachev), the most successful one being on Lenin. Looks like their secret service is up to snatch.
Also, Putin knows.

Posted by: Konami | Aug 11 2025 9:48 utc | 272

Putin is in absolutely no danger (while visiting the US).
Putin, Trump and Zelensky are all Jews.
Posted by: Mr James | Aug 11 2025 8:47
If Putin gives away the farm he will be in more danger from hardline Russians, than from the Americans.

Posted by: Charlie Brown | Aug 11 2025 10:03 utc | 273

The best outcome scenario and the immediate goal for the US is RF tied in UA and the US free to move elsewhere.
Hence the script is going to be:
– RF and US sign an agreement on a substantial portion of RF goals
– EU and UA reject that
– the SMO will continue, US support to UA replaced by much smaller EU support, still it will take long before it concludes
– the US will move to divide and conquer somewhere else, with RF tied in UA and unable to meaningfully intervene

Posted by: ArmChairGeneral | Aug 11 2025 10:57 utc | 274

Re: Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 10 2025 18:41 utc | 101

As a poster commenting on that site points out:
The front line is a fickle thing.

Well, maybe after 3.5 years the Russians should have prioritised taking more territory rather than pussy-footing around in Donbass for ALL 3.5 years – and still not being close to taking all of Donetsk – or Kherson or Zaporizhzhia!
But, muh attrition and all that I hear around here all the time!

Posted by: Julian | Aug 11 2025 10:58 utc | 275

Russian forces taking large swathes of land near and above Pokrovske and have entered some central regions of the city. The tempo appears to be quickening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmHX2OwnUp4

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 11:00 utc | 276

George @253:

The reason they need to pivot to China ASAP is because they want to destroy China’s advance on technology. I have read today that the thinking behind the current administration’s economic plan involves the advance of US technology and AI as they still consider themselves ahead. It’s not about employing Americans at all to MAGA, but instead about using robotic technology and AI, and staying in advance that way…

Perhaps that is what is believed by significant portions of the Empire’s oligarchy and the Establishment that serves its interests, but that ceased to be true a while back. Not only is China the undisputed champion of robotics now, they took the lead in AI recently and are busy snatching up the title belts in all other tech fields as we type. China’s trajectory is towards absolute domination in all tech fields, while America’s trajectory is similar to that of a Boeing 737 MAX that thinks it is stalling. Naturally, that metaphor is related in more ways than just the visuals.
You cannot turn on tech innovation like flipping a switch. The Empire’s greatest living innovator is an African American (Hi Elon!). Many here absolutely hate him, but many in the US who do like him do so not out of admiration of his creation of whole new industries from scratch, but just because wealth gets their vaginas all lubricated, and therein lies the problem. Americans like the appearance and trappings of innovation and innovators (that is, wealth) but not the innovation process itself. That is why the STEM schools in all American universities are kept alive largely with international students, many of them Chinese.
You don’t just need a growing talent pool of people who have developed the difficult skills of the scientist and engineer, you need an attitude and outlook that leads you to apply those skills to unique problems. You need an optimistic, but realistic, view of the future where problems can and are solved by tech. All of this is missing in the US, so if the imperial Establishment thinks that is going to power the US through to the future, it is delusional.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 11 2025 11:01 utc | 277

Re: Posted by: English Outsider | Aug 10 2025 18:44 utc | 102

As for the course of events now, was that not set in stone in ’22?
The Russians will achieve the objectives set out in Putin’s speech on the eve of the SMO and confirmed often since. Notably in the June 14th ’24 speech to the Foreign office officials. A hundred thousand plus dead since February ’22 ensures that. The Russians will no doubt attempt to find some formula that will save Trump’s face but there’s no longer much room for that.
The Europeans politicians are now well placed for what they wish to achieve. They know perfectly well that defeat’s coming but have Trump handy to blame that defeat on. They will then stoke up the war fever – but for a war they have neither the means for nor the intention of fighting – and take us in Europe into Cold War II.
That’ll suit the Americans, who also know perfectly well that defeat in Ukraine is looming, have done since mid ’22, but who have plenty of other sore spots on the Russian perimeter to work on. Plus the shadow boxing with China. I can’t believe the Americans have the means for or the intention of fighting a serious war either, but as in Europe Washington runs on keeping the lobbyists and interest groups happy and that’s not going to alter.
It’s the Ukrainians one is sorry for. Could have been the most prosperous country in Europe, certainly in the post-Soviet world. Then we came along and used it as an attack dog. Wrecked the place. As I quote from “b” so often, a “crime”. Just one in a sequence of destruction from before Iraq, by no means the worst, but one would have to have a heart of stone not to feel for them.

No, the Russian objectives in the SMO are most definitely NOT ACHIEVED.
There is no denazification of Ukraine.
There is no demilitarization of Ukraine.
There is no Russian “liberation” of all of Donetsk.
There is no Russian “liberation” of all of Kherson.
There is no Russian “liberation” of all of Zaporizhzhia.
None of that above have been achieved.
If the Russians had WON this War – why are they going to Alaska to talk to an irrelevant nobody.
If the Russians had WON this War – the Russians would be Dictating Terms from Moscow – something they clearly are not doing.

Posted by: Julian | Aug 11 2025 11:01 utc | 278

Posted by: Konami | Aug 11 2025 9:48 utc | 272
Well said! The certitude shown by so many here is unbelievable. It is classic purity-spiral maximalism. For just one example, William Gruff is on record stating with high certainty that if Putin goes Alaska, the probability that he survives the trip is “miniscule” and furthermore, he is “stupid”.

A purity spiral, in the context of group dynamics, refers to a situation where increasingly extreme views are rewarded while expressions of doubt or moderation are punished, leading to a loss of nuance and debate. This phenomenon can result in escalating cycles of accusation and judgment, where individuals or groups are targeted for perceived transgressions against a prevailing ideology.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 11:08 utc | 279

Posted by: Julian | Aug 11 2025 11:01 utc | 278
Maybe I am being pedantic, but he said ‘Will achieve’, not ‘have achieved’.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 11 2025 11:12 utc | 280

Russia also like Ukraine has low birth rate, so every russian lost is a forever loss, War only makes population decline faster for Russia and Ukraine

Posted by: wako pirate | Aug 11 2025 11:13 utc | 281

Sock puppets are yet another category, and that clearly identifies a deliberate troll.
Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 7:23 utc | 243
_______
Would that include sock puppets of previously banned users?

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 11 2025 11:13 utc | 282

Interesting statistic:
“Top 20 countries with the highest military expenditure as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) in 2024”
Some countries:
Ukraine: 34.50%
Israel: 8.80%
Russia: 7.10%
Poland: 4.20%
USA: 3.42%
https://www.statista.com/statistics/266892/military-expenditure-as-percentage-of-gdp-in-highest-spending-countries/

Posted by: NoName | Aug 11 2025 11:20 utc | 283

Don’t know about high certainty, but I worry about VVP going to the States. Killing both VVP and Trump would be a twofer for some people.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 11 2025 11:21 utc | 284

@ NoName | Aug 11 2025 11:20 utc | 283
The USA’s percentage would be considerably higher if it didn’t include such anti-productive activities as those in the FIRE sector in its GDP calculations.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 11 2025 11:24 utc | 285

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 11 2025 11:01 utc | 277
I agree with all you say William, I also pay attention to China’s progress and can see where it is now in terms of many technological fronts.
And that is why they seek to destroy the country or cause instability in the region as they have been trying to do for years.
I also agree it is an fanciful illusion on the part of US elites in the administration and beyond, and that they are not at all capable of realising their plan. I just read this information today concerning the reasoning behind why they are doing what they are doing, but the same article did not mention China’s advance nor BRICS nor the SCO. A Western source of course, but it spilled the beans on the plan.
Thanks for your comment and additional information.

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 11:26 utc | 286

@wako pirate | Aug 11 2025 11:13 utc | 281
Russia occupies about 20% of Ukraine. Crimea in 2021 alone had about 2.5 million people. Yes, many fled to western Ukraine or other European countries, but many remained and the population in the occupied/freed (how you look at it) territories still numbers in several millions.

Posted by: NoName | Aug 11 2025 11:27 utc | 287

“Would that include sock puppets of previously banned users?”
Posted by: malenkov | Aug 11 2025 11:13 utc | 282
If they are identified as previous trolls yes. Sock puppets are sock puppets no matter what side anyway, they simply seek to make it appear like more bloggers than one person support their claims, like social media robots. Sometimes we see that.
If it was a previously banned user who was NOT a troll, has only one identity now, and is still not a troll, then I guess that would be OK if they comply with any restrictions B would see fit. But I’m not the moderator here, that’s B.

Posted by: George | Aug 11 2025 11:40 utc | 288

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 11 2025 8:01 utc | 252
Every single Russian with two brain cells left knows EXACTLY what what and who the Jewish-Neoliberal Trojan horse is and who he is working for, who installed him in his positions after his return from Germany and what his mission really and finally is…But nobody is speaking up because they KNOW what happend to those who did…
https://chabadinfo.com/news/vladimir-putin-praises-chabad/
https://youtu.be/Lpwb67x_6tc?si=yNvMhhPLzpZAWRFq
https://youtu.be/tpmY9Rr6OVM?si=c02rektjvWKEWp47 (unfortunately in German)
https://youtu.be/vxB99wl0Kks?si=luZz02hSLYxYvSUP
https://youtu.be/XCk700uTtNk?si=oM6v9bhLcy_SsWFl (unfortunately in German)

Posted by: Brigitte Mohnhaupt | Aug 11 2025 11:48 utc | 289

https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/foreign-exchange-reserves
A number of points here. Russia has troubles but bankruptcy? I don’t think so. Their Sovereign fund was building since January and is far from empty. Inflation is much too high but has moderated. The Ruble has been among the strongest currencies on earth. Oil/gas sales down but sanctions don’t work.
Demographics? Yes, bad….but God knows not like Ukraine. If Putin can’t talk Russians into more baby production, he should think about saving the lives of Ukrainians by massive encirclements and pulling them into Russia – as many have already fled there. This would also shorten the war and move Ukraine towards permanent demilitarization.

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 11 2025 11:57 utc | 290

I took a look at Brian. Alaska is a trap. The probability that something will “happen” to Putin is really very high.
Before J.F. Kennedy, everyone would have said: Nonsense!
But times have changed.
Putin’s pulse before the Alaska trip: _/\_/\_/\_/\_
Putin’s pulse on the return flight: _______________

Posted by: guest from franconia | Aug 11 2025 11:59 utc | 291

While I understand the concern, treating the Russian President as a baby who can not take care of himself makes for a bizarre discussion on an otherwise mature forum.

Posted by: boneless | Aug 11 2025 12:29 utc | 292

Trump already ditched 404 to the toilet of history (twice), he flushed it to EU and it still stinks … what will he ask in Al-Aska ? “Dear Vladimir, do you have some bleach ?” And Uncle Vova will answer : “OK, I can sell you some bleach. 50% on order, 50% on delivery.”
Kokhols are dangerous as they are .. don’t even imagine betrayed kokhols. They already “missed” the Don twice: they can do it again, so the Don and VVP ; they will agree. Nothing personal , just state security ^^.

Posted by: Savonarole | Aug 11 2025 12:40 utc | 293

>>> “The best outcome scenario and the immediate goal for the US is RF tied in UA and the US free to move elsewhere.
Hence the script is going to be:
– the SMO will continue, US support to UA replaced by much smaller EU support, still it will take long before it concludes” <<< Posted by: ArmChairGeneral | Aug 11 2025 10:57 utc | 274 Good analysis. But that framework removes direct NATO involvement, which Russia has feared all along. It frees Russia to truly create a landlocked rump Ukraine, with its neighbors occupying "security zones" in disputed border areas. NATO will fragment and the Blob will take a tremendous hit. And the hohol army will likely collapse, mutiny and revolt. The Blob can blame Russia and Trump, sure, but they still lose huge.

Posted by: seer | Aug 11 2025 12:44 utc | 294

„Cold hard land, cold hard bargain: Putin and Trump head off to Alaska
From a stalled war to a broken oil embargo, the Kremlin’s leverage has never looked stronger ahead of the August summit“
By Sergey Poletaev, information analyst and publicist, co-founder and editor of the Vatfor project
https://www.rt.com/russia/622701-alaska-showdown-who-really-needs/

Posted by: NoName | Aug 11 2025 13:00 utc | 295

Putin’s pulse before the Alaska trip: _/\_/\_/\_/\_
Putin’s pulse on the return flight: _______________
Posted by: guest from franconia | Aug 11 2025 11:59 utc | 291

…and then what?
Until you can answer that question then it is all teenage frottery, reminiscent of the nuke ghouls every time something goes BANG!
Do you think RF will just shrug its shoulders and say ‘OK then, we surrender. Take back the Donbass and do with it as you see fit’? (Rah, rah. USA!)
Will it be instant WWIII ? (I’m guessing you would like that).
Or what?
I’m sure any would be assassin plotters might just have thought beyond what happens once the bullet strikes…

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 11 2025 13:49 utc | 296

@George | Aug 11 2025 8:10 utc | 256
I did not criticize your post in any way, I just contributed what I consider is the definition of a troll.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 11 2025 13:54 utc | 297

Seer // 294
Why do you think Russia “feared” the direct involvement of the UK, France, Germany, Norway, Estonia, etc., in Ukraine?
Is there something about the mighty UK military that would cause fear in Russia? Do the Russians fear Norway? Does anyone fear Norway? What is there about Latvia which might cause great fear in Russia? What exactly do these countries have which might cause Russia to FEAR them?

Posted by: Nobody Special | Aug 11 2025 14:10 utc | 298

While the rest of the board bloviates about philosophical bullshit, here is a short summary from Dima’s latest video:
+ Big breakthrough north of Pokrosvk, threatens to get behind the last line of defenses in the Donbass
+ Klyban Byksky pocket closed; many surrendering UAF due to total encirclement
+ Russia sending more reserves in the Zap and Kherson directions.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 11 2025 14:14 utc | 299

Here’s the possible, yet predictable, NATO provocation. This time towards Bryansk. Third time’s the charm, I’m sure.
https://t.me/belarusian_silovik/59190

At the Goncharovskoye training ground in the Chernihiv region, there is an accumulation of personnel: at least 5,000 people. At least 300 Colombian mercenaries have also arrived there.
A pontoon-bridge company of 150 servicemen has been transferred from the Kupyansk region to Chernihiv;
In the Bryansk direction, the 54th separate reconnaissance battalion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was replaced by the 130th separate reconnaissance battalion, which previously led the reconnaissance support for the invasion of the Kursk region.
Experienced FPV drone operators, equipment and personnel without tactical identification marks have been transferred from other areas of the front, the Russian Armed Forces grouping and operational capabilities are being probed.
According to intercepts, it became known that, thanks to NATO satellite images, command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is studying the location of bridges and overpasses, cell towers in the Bryansk region.
Also, in the direction of Belaya Berezka – Suzemka, a powerful electronic warfare curtain has recently been noted, opposite Suzemka, the enemy has prepared an anti-drone transport corridor.
It is quite likely that the Ukrainian Armed Forces may launch an offensive on Klimovo and Belaya Berezka with the destruction of bridges across the Desna and Nerussa rivers in order to isolate the area of ​​combat operations, as well as disable communication towers and disrupt the power supply.

Posted by: boneless | Aug 11 2025 14:32 utc | 300