Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
August 28, 2025
They Voted For Brexit To Stop Immigration Only To Get More Of It

What good are democracies when the outcome of elections bring the opposite of what voters wish?

In June 2016 the United Kingdom voted for Brexit:

The 2016 United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, commonly referred to as the EU referendum or the Brexit referendum, was a referendum that took place on 23 June 2016 in the United Kingdom (UK) and Gibraltar under the provisions of the European Union Referendum Act 2015 to ask the electorate whether the country should continue to remain a member of, or leave, the European Union (EU). The result was a vote in favour of leaving the EU, triggering calls to begin the process of the country's withdrawal from the EU commonly termed "Brexit".

A main public issue in the run-up to the vote was immigration:

The Brexit vote will be debated for years to come. But the story is straightforward. Propagated by an unlikely pair of effective messengers, Leave's "Take Back Control" message harnessed the motive power of immigration, an emotionally charged issue that had been baked into British psychology long before the vote was called. These immigration fears, not abstract concerns about a "democratic deficit" that required rescuing UK sovereignty from Brussels bureaucrats, do much to explain why Britain voted for Brexit.

Demagogues like Nigel Farage played a key role in this:

The rise of Nigel Farage and the UK Independence Party (UKIP) also played an important role in cultivating this concern among economically left-behind voters. Between 2013 and 2015 UKIP began to mobilise these voters into politics, convincing them that the issues of immigration and the EU were deeply entwined. At the 2016 referendum the vote for Brexit was strongest in areas that had given UKIP strong support two years previously. Had these voters not been galvanised by UKIP then it is unlikely they would have turned out in the numbers that we saw on June 23rd, 2016. Indeed, we also find that if somebody felt anxious over the immigration issue, and economically left behind, they were significantly more likely to vote in the referendum.

It took three and a half years to finally executed the Brexit move. The results following it though were not what people had expected:



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As the Wall Street Journal writes (archived):

The Tories, despite repeatedly promising lower overall immigration levels, soon lost control of the system they designed, triggering the biggest influx of legal migration the country has ever seen. In just one job field, care aides who look after the infirm or elderly, one government forecast assumed some 6,000 migrants a year would come to work. In the space of four years, 679,900 carers and their families arrived, government figures show.

In total, 4.5 million people arrived in Britain between 2021 and 2024, primarily from India, Nigeria and China. One in every 25 people living in the U.K. today came during that four-year window.

In comparison, the U.S. typically averages about one million new lawful permanent residents, or green card holders, a year—to a country with a total population five times the size of Britain’s.

After Boris Johnson, who had campaigned for Brexit, had become Prime Minister he implemented an industry friendly,  extremely liberal immigration policy. Workers from Europe were shunned but everybody else was welcome:

Employers no longer had to try to hire workers from Britain before recruiting from abroad. To acquire a skilled-worker visa, foreign workers weren’t required to have a college degree, they just had to be offered a job with a minimum salary of £25,600, which at the time was 23% below the full-time U.K. median salary.

There were also carve-outs. Firms could sponsor visas in certain sectors, such as construction, where there was an acute shortage of workers, paying them as little as £20,400 a year. And students could come with their families for a one-year master’s course, and stay on for two years after completing their studies. Net migration from the EU went into reverse, and arrivals from elsewhere surged. In 2021, 93,000 people arrived from India. By 2024, that number was 240,000. The number of Nigerian migrants increased fivefold in the same period.

Many arrived with families in tow. In the 12 months ending March 2024, nearly half of all visas were issued to dependents, not workers.

It is thereby not astonishing to find that Farage is back:

This sudden demographic shift, which has come at a time of economic stagnation and piled pressure on Britain’s stretched public services, is roiling the country’s politics. Immigration is now voters’ top concern. Reform UK, which says it would freeze most migration and deport those who arrive illegally, got the most votes of any party in recent municipal elections. The Tories, having lost power last year to the Labour Party, are now a distant third in the polls.

The 61-year-old Farage, long dismissed in Westminster as influential but unelectable, is now being taken seriously as a possible prime minister, though national elections are unlikely before 2029.

I doubt that voting for Farage would change a thing.

Comments

“I doubt that voting for Farage would change a thing.” How so? Because you think he’s not sincere, or because his hands will be tied?

Posted by: metamars | Aug 28 2025 14:14 utc | 1

I doubt that voting for Farage would change a thing.

Well, duh!
We are spiraling ever deeper into the rabbit hole, we’re all mad here, beyond the Mad Hatter stage. Welcome to Wonderland!

Posted by: maja | Aug 28 2025 14:15 utc | 2

Firstly there is NO United Kingdom, Scottish sovereignty is totally incompatible with English sovereignty – in England is the monarch that is sovereign, in Scotland sovereignty resides with the people, why do you think there’s two-Crown Offices, and English one and a Scottish one – and right now a Scottish delegation is at the UN trying to get Scotland put on the C-24 unit for decolonisation, Scotland is a country the elder of the two nations (England – Scotland) held illegally in an illegal union and treated as a colony and asset stripped.
As for Brexit 62% of Scots voted to remain in the EU, but it meant nothing as we are held in this illegal union, anyway the British governments have been flooding Britain (not the UK) with immigrants for decades now, lately the recent English government snuck in 24,000 Afghan traitors some with 14 family members to Britain wat a cost to the taxpayer of at least £800 million quid, I’ve nothing against structured immigration, but it is getting to the point that there are a bit too many immigrants in Scotland, the largest group of foreign immigrants coming into Scotland are the English, who move to Scotland at will, they come to Scotland to get more bang for their buck, they put tremendous pressure on our public services, such as doctors, dentists, hospitals, housing etc, as most are retirees – Scots can’t stop them flooding in because immigration is controlled from the foreign country of England.
Farage is of course jumping on the immigration of brown skinned folk – and the point is clear, that many are coming to Britain, they ignore other nations (safe havens) such as France and Germany just to get to Britain – Reform is an English party which plans to stand in another country’s elections (Scotland’s) on the ticket of too much immigration – Reform is a kind of further to the right Tory party, and it has no place in Scotland, sadly many ill informed Scots will vote for Reform, when the real problem is lack of control of our borders in Scotland.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 28 2025 14:27 utc | 3

Same here in Canada. Bringing in loads of immigrants to a nation that has inadequate housing and a struggling economy. What could possibly go wrong

Posted by: Chris N | Aug 28 2025 14:28 utc | 4

Posted by: Chris N | Aug 28 2025 14:28 utc |
More importantly, every Canadian party has the exact same position on big issues like immigration, ukraine, tarriffs, etc.

Posted by: Meh | Aug 28 2025 14:30 utc | 5

B is dead right with his final sentence. International capital wants cheap labour in Britain. Farage is in thrall to billionaires not the people who will be conned into voting for him.

Posted by: Phil Espin | Aug 28 2025 14:33 utc | 6

The point of voting is to give an illusion of legitimacy to politicians.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 28 2025 14:44 utc | 7

A “German” who is complacent about his government’s efforts to ban that country’s most popular political party (AfD) is upset that British politicians nullify their own constituents’ votes. German leftists are braindead.

Posted by: chedolf | Aug 28 2025 14:44 utc | 8

voting isn’t changing anything.. the folks who are running this immigration experiment are in control of all the politicians and determined to undermine all countries that can be exploited like this…
it used to be usa wars caused the immigration..now, i think it is mostly bankers – who also caused the wars… i’m not sure how this experiment is going to end, but i can’t see it working out..

Posted by: james | Aug 28 2025 14:49 utc | 9

@ chedolf | Aug 28 2025 14:44 utc | 8
bsw is legit.. afd is fake..

Posted by: james | Aug 28 2025 14:50 utc | 10

Learning From Brexit
https://monthlyreview.org/2019/10/91/learning-from-brexit/
“Costas Lapavitsas’s The Left Case Against the EU(Polity, 2019) is recognized as the leading work advocating Lexit, the left-wing case for Brexit, and for nations leaving the European Union more generally…”
Instead, UK got a Boris Brexit.

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 28 2025 14:51 utc | 11

The western oligarchs spent decades interlinking economies. Why did they decide to decouple the UK slightly from the EU ? Possibly in anticipation of their Ukraine conflict, they wanted to financially firewall the next proxies on continental Europe from an inner region of the empire.

Posted by: I forgot | Aug 28 2025 14:53 utc | 12

The UK no longer really exists……its either run by a conservative fascist like Rishi or a socialist fascist like Sir Keir…..
Orwellian censorship, Catholics arrested for praying in public, waves of illegal alien criminals, green energy non sense and massive utility increases, billions for Ukronazis…….
The UK no longer exists……..

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 28 2025 14:56 utc | 13

re: #11 – try this instead
https://monthlyreview.org/author/costaslapavitsas

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 28 2025 14:58 utc | 14

The EU is just a giant socialist Orwellian experiment fostered by the WEF and the Soros group……and saps like Irish PM Michael Martin follow along like a stray puppy dog……..pathetic……

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 28 2025 14:58 utc | 15

@ chedolf | Aug 28 2025 14:44 utc | 8
A blogger who writes critically of everyone and everything makes more enemies. Writing about your home country comes with extra risks. Especially when that home country seems to lack protection of speech.
Don’t look gift horses in the mouth. For instance, Tucker seems a deep stater. But we can thank him for any of his limited hangouts because “limited hangouts” are all we ever get and even those help us truthseekers. The path to truth is piecing together all the information from everyone and assembling it your own way.

Posted by: I forgot | Aug 28 2025 15:02 utc | 16

B is dead right with his final sentence. International capital wants cheap labour in Britain. Farage is in thrall to billionaires not the people who will be conned into voting for him.
Posted by: Phil Espin | Aug 28 2025 14:33 utc | 6
Agreed, but I think we can telescope your statement to read: Western capital wants cheap labor throughout the West. Every Western politician is in thrall to the billionaires not the people they try to con into voting for them.
It is the same story in the US. The pro immigration crowd in the Dem orbit promote the issue as one of human rights and anti racism, so as to cover their effort to supply cheaper and more docile slaves to the billionaires en masse.
Frankly, I genuinely like most of the immigrants I know, but they have been systematically instructed by the “pro immigration” parties that facilitate their arrival, that locally born workers are racist, hate them and would gladly injure them if they had the chance.
This is another aspect of the immigration game: to systematically pit the new foreign slaves against the old local slaves. While the wage slaves fight each other, capital comfortably continues it’s exploitation of both.
I’m with any foreign wage slave that embraces local wage slaves as brothers in arms against the billionaires.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 28 2025 15:04 utc | 17

Wait.
Elections are fake?
No one saw that coming. 🙄
If they can’t steal the election then they will steal the result.
It’s what I would do in their shoes.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 28 2025 15:05 utc | 18

Quite the contrary, electing Farage as PM in all certainty definitively will blow up the entire UK. Not only his skills will destroy the political building of the UK, he will be also able to disintegrate England itself to pieces. Yugobritain. He delivered the maximum pain to his country even without having political power, merely as an intoxicator. He remembers me the Spanish modern-lerrouxists (corrupt+lazy) like Albert Rivera, fortunately for Spain he limited to blew up his own party (like Farage, btw), rejecting Sánchez’s offerings to govern in coalition. He was even fired from the job he got after abandoning politics because of his lazyness (he even didn’t go to work at all).

Posted by: Caligula Minus | Aug 28 2025 15:07 utc | 19

This must make the British equivalent of woke dembots very happy.
At least now maybe someone will impregnate their ugly daughters and give them grandchildren, even if it is from rape by some rootless failures at life from some other countries.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 28 2025 15:16 utc | 20

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 28 2025 14:56 utc | 13
Explain how the installed embodiment of the bureaucratic managerial class, Mr Sunak, was a fascist? I thought they threw out foreigners, especially illegal ones, he welcomed them with open arms, I thought they believed themselves to be the embodiment of their nation, Sunak couldn’t’ wait to subjugate this country to the international communities whims and wishes.
So, assuming your critique wasn’t the usual leftist, knee jerk reaction to anyone who doesn’t espouse and enact socialism, how is he a fascist? Emplaced puppet of an institutional, globalist system yes, but a rightwing dictator who was determined to leave his mark in history by co-opting business and the country’s population into supporting an aggressive policy of conquest?

Posted by: Milites | Aug 28 2025 15:18 utc | 21

It doesn’t help that there is no Left voice for anti-immigration policies. The Left-Wing arguement for leaving the EU was that it was a neoliberal trade block that forced member states to adopt neoliberal economic policies, amongst other things porous borders. The only voice at the time saying this was Corbyn, but as a young voter, I never understood why he was taking the same side as all these racists?? Because the MSM certainy never explained the Left arguement; it was only ever framed as one of “good guys” (liberals) versus “bad guys” (conservatives). I know better now, but do the young voters of today?

Posted by: Gracchus | Aug 28 2025 15:35 utc | 22

Demagogues like Nigel Farage
Translation, he does not share my political views…therefore he/she [insert ad hominem here]. Sad that. Why argue against the man, why not state clearly what policies of his you dislike then, argue what you would do instead?
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Row brewing over plans to house 280 migrants in Tipperary village of 165
The village of Dundrum in south Tipperary has a population of 165.
However, the Government is planning to use Dundrum House Hotel as an accommodation complex, with plans for up to 280 international protection applicants (IPAs) to be housed there…Locals have expressed shock at the plans and the scale of the allocation, which is over 100 people more than the permanent population of the village…The row follows stand-offs earlier this year with communities in Roscrea and Clonmel over similar large-scale refugee centres….Dundrum locals have pleaded for “common sense” over the scale of ­local accommodation plans…Politicians raised concerns over the effect on local services, which they say are already stretched to the limit…Fine Gael councillor Declan Burgess said it was “deeply concerning” that the local community was being kept in the dark.
Green Party leader Roderic O’Gorman confirmed that the Department of Integration planned to proceed..

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Final question; do you think you’d ever call a Green Party leader like Roderic O’Gorman a demagogue…a fascist…a racsist or, any number of derogatives as the opening sentence to a paragraph without offering any evidence within the paragraph? Where’s MOA’s beloved “Writing-Critique-Guild” when you actually need them?

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 28 2025 15:36 utc | 23

>>> “…every Canadian party has the exact same position on big issues like immigration, ukraine, tarriffs, etc.” <<< Posted by: Meh | Aug 28 2025 14:30 utc | 5 . . Yes, the Blob owns Canada completely. UK maybe slightly less, US slightly less.

Posted by: seer | Aug 28 2025 15:36 utc | 24

@16 I forgot
It often takes someone from outside a particular system to notice the ‘mistakes’. Many of those are often glaringly obvious…except to those caught up in the run run.
Question of seeing the wood for the trees, we should be thankful.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 28 2025 15:40 utc | 26

Canada’s Immigration is out of control (and this is coming from a person married to an immigrant), the Liberal are planning to import 1,000,000 people into Canada per year till Canada’s population hits 100,000,000 (by 2050). It’d be one thing if they we’re spread out over all of Canada, but they aren’t, 80% are going into Victoria, Toronto, Montreal or Calgary. Canada already has a huge housing crisis, they are not building houses, apartment buildings or condos anywhere. Canada is almost as large as Russia (our population density is 4 per Sq KM vs 95 people per Sq KM in the US) , but the government doesn’t want to develop or settle anything more than 200 kms north of the Canada-US boarder, so we have a huge problem with homelessness, unaffordable housing, excessive rents) I rented a 1 bedroom apartment in downtown Toronto in 2012 for $850/m (all inclusive) that same 1 bedroom apartment now is $1800/m plus water & hydro. I know plenty of people are now subletting 1 bedroom apartments to 4-6 people. I cant imagine how a minimum wage person will ever be able to afford a condo (or a house in Toronto).

Posted by: Kadath | Aug 28 2025 15:56 utc | 27

Same here in Canada. Bringing in loads of immigrants to a nation that has inadequate housing and a struggling economy. What could possibly go wrong
Posted by: Chris N | Aug 28 2025 14:28 utc | 4
I doubt you are First Nation guy so take a look in the mirror and shut up.

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 28 2025 15:58 utc | 28

Imho the various forces behind Brexit have not been revealed, analysed.
(OK, Farage, opportunist pols, anti-imm. pols, etc.)
See for ex.
Brexit was the result of a corporate lobbying campaign, which backfired. What did the people behind it really want? – 2018.
“The campaign for Brexit was conducted by a network of lobbying organisations; but it was underscored by an extensive campaign, which had been pursued through Parliament and the media, over the course of many years.”
https://richardhutton.wordpress.com/category/brexit-was-the-result-of-a-corporate-lobbying-campaign-which-backfired/
It is very complicated, and there were multiple forces at play, many crossed aims, no national consensus.

Posted by: Noirette | Aug 28 2025 16:10 utc | 29

The main thing we achieved through Brexit was not having to serve in Macron’s and Germany’s European Army.
It put a spanner in the wires if European unity.
This has to be one of the reasons the Fxxxers have clamped down on protest about the Genocide. Democracy must not be seen ever again to involve listening to the people.
The PTB are a bunch of up their own arses, sick human beings.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 28 2025 16:12 utc | 30

The main thing we achieved through Brexit was not having to serve in Macron’s and Germany’s European Army.
It put a spanner in the wires if European unity.
This has to be one of the reasons the Fxxxers have clamped down on protest about the Genocide. Democracy must not be seen ever again to involve listening to the people.
The PTB are a bunch of up their own arses, sick human beings.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 28 2025 16:12 utc | 31

In just one job field, care aides who look after the infirm or elderly, one government forecast assumed some 6,000 migrants a year would come to work. In the space of four years, 679,900 carers and their families arrived, government figures show.
In total, 4.5 million people arrived in Britain between 2021 and 2024, primarily from India, Nigeria and China. One in every 25 people living in the U.K. today came during that four-year window.

Nigerian and Chinese elderly care workers. LOL

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 28 2025 16:17 utc | 32

Kadath 27,
In the US, it’s clear that DNC-“neo-liberals” and Cheney-esque “neocons” are both on the same team when it comes to unlimited immigration. DNC-“neo-liberals” and Cheney-esque “neocons” are also coincidentally both in later stages of TDS.
Imagine that, most posters here hate Trump almost as much as DNC-“neo-liberals” and Cheney-esque “neocons”? Sometimes you just have to wonder what other dovetails are hidden in the bird’s feathers that flock together?
Again, I remind younger readers that real-liberals, real-lefties of the 1930-80’s were against immigration because of job-loss, wage-stagnation, housing-costs and the strain on social services. It was during the DLC/DNC expungement of FDRists from the Democratic party in the late 1970’s and 1980’s that the “left”/”liberals” became pro-war, pro-immigration, pro-big-business…what many DNCers themselves referred to as Republican-lite. Hardcore Republican policies but, with sex, drugs and rock ‘n roll.

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 28 2025 16:21 utc | 33

Milites 21
Thank you for reminding me of his name.
His famous last words were that anybody who didn’t think USUKIS should be Genociding Palestinians maybe shouldn’t be allowed to inhabit Britain.
If that isn’t Fascism, what is?

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 28 2025 16:22 utc | 34

(From the article)
“I doubt that voting for Farage would change a thing.”
Farage is poor at building and holding together a team. Also poor on strategy. Maybe he’d overcome those deficiencies given a chance but on his record so far, unlikely.
Whether one believes the current status quo needs root and branch reform, or whether one hopes a bit of tinkering will do, depends on how dysfunctional one considers the current status quo to be. At one end of the scale, Borrell:-
“Europe is a garden. We have built a garden. Everything works. It is the best combination of political freedom, economic prosperity and social cohesion that the humankind has been able to build — the three things together … Most of the rest of the world is a jungle…”
At the other, David Betz, who quotes Borrell as an example of hubris:-
https://www.militarystrategymagazine.com/article/civil-war-comes-to-the-west/
I’d never thought in Betz’s apocalyptic terms. It’s true all the countries of the West are wide open to destabilisation if other countries wanted to do to us what we do to them; but failing that I’d expected a continuation of the drift downwards that I’ve seen in England for most of my life and that I’ve observed in Germany over the last couple of decades. Not so gentle, that drift downwards, for those who draw the short straw, but not severe enough to get most of us rioting or sabotaging infrastructure.
But the economic blowback from the Ukrainian war, possibly from other wars we seem anxious to engage in, will accelerate that downwards drift dramatically. Certainly since ’22 we’ve witnessed the spectacle of a Europe energetically digging its own grave. Whether we go full Betz or not, the status quo now needs more root and branch reform than just a bit of tinkering.
The zombie politicians, Merz and Starmer and the like, aren’t capable of thinking about root and branch reform let alone delivering it. Difficult to see Farage being able to do so either.

Posted by: English Outsider | Aug 28 2025 16:23 utc | 35

The main thing we achieved through Brexit was not having to serve in Macron’s and Germany’s European Army.
Posted by: Giyane | Aug 28 2025 16:12 utc | 30
The main thing you achieved through Brexit was not having to bring immigrants from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria but from India, Nigeria and China.

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 28 2025 16:25 utc | 36

Anyone care for a inclusive Rule, Britannia?

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 28 2025 16:26 utc | 37

Well, at some point, citizens in Western nations should realize that they’d be better off if they full terminated their entire political class and starter anew. Having shot the lot of them should also work as a warning to encourage the new politicians for at least a few decades, so that they don’t turn abject traitors.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Aug 28 2025 16:27 utc | 38

@ tobias
IMO
– Er, I’m no fan of the EU. But not because of socialism. Western socialism seemed to work until the USSR fell and oligarchs decided they no longer needed to fend off the threat of communism by treating their serfs well. So they sabotaged cheap effective public services, use the failure as proof the services never worked, and direct people into their higher-priced businesses. They don’t drop tax rates though, because they want that for their wars.
– It’s silly to refer to anything brought to you by billionaires as “socialist” unless they’re promoting policies that force them to give their billions to a host government. (Not charities they control.)
– You’re not alone though, in blaming “socialism”. The fact so many people do stems from oligarch-run media wanting to damage the very word. “Something is failing? It’s socialism! Immigration

Posted by: I forgot | Aug 28 2025 16:27 utc | 39

Clicked “post” when I meant “preview “. Anyway , I think you get the gist.

Posted by: I forgot | Aug 28 2025 16:29 utc | 40

“What good are democracies when the outcome of elections bring the opposite of what voters wish?”
~b
Oh come on, b. You know voting IS to make people feel like they have a choice. Voting is feel-good attempt at democracy. They say, yup, I voted. My civic duty is now complete. Wait another 4 year, till I do my civic duty again.
Tell me, how are the candidates chosen in the said democracies? We know that in the U.S. it’s AIPAC allegiance that drives the show. Much of Europe is captured by the same horde.
You just can’t throw out the members of the uni-party. They are replaced by another uni-party member.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 28 2025 16:31 utc | 41

“If voting made any difference they wouldn’t let us do it”
Mark Twain

Posted by: canuk | Aug 28 2025 16:33 utc | 42

“Western socialism seemed to work until the USSR fell and oligarchs decided they no longer needed to fend off the threat of communism by treating their serfs well. ”
Posted by: I forgot | Aug 28 2025 16:27 utc | 39
Best sentence I have read today.

Posted by: canuk | Aug 28 2025 16:35 utc | 43

I doubt you are First Nation guy so take a look in the mirror and shut up.
Posted by: hopehely | Aug 28 2025 15:58 utc | 28
Have you ever said this in Jamaica, Haiti, or Cuba?

Posted by: Passerby | Aug 28 2025 16:35 utc | 44

Posted by: Kadath | Aug 28 2025 15:56 utc | 27
That’s what happens when you have an idiotic populace which voted the WEFers like Trudeau and Carnage.

Posted by: canuk | Aug 28 2025 16:38 utc | 45

Democracy is the people choosing government. This is government choosing the people.

Posted by: Passerby | Aug 28 2025 16:38 utc | 46

Economist Jeffrey Sachs says about Great Britain. “They live vicariously through the U.S. due to their former, The sun never sets upon the British empire” mentality that the U.S. inherited from them. Britain and Europe should do a Brexit on NATO and the U.S. as well. Being subservient lap dogs to it. Brexit at least got Britain out of the constraints of Brussels and the Euro. But, like the U.S. are constrained by their own Thatcherism and Reaganism neoliberal, financialized economy corruption. And why there’s immigration going on throughout the world from it. The G7 is becoming a derelict has been. All from it’s own greed, willful ignorance and arrogance to the changing world order of multipolarity. All thanks to China. Good for them.

Posted by: Richard | Aug 28 2025 16:41 utc | 47

Have you ever said this in Jamaica, Haiti, or Cuba?
Posted by: Passerby | Aug 28 2025 16:35 utc | 44
They are bitching about immigration too?

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 28 2025 16:44 utc | 48

“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”
― Frank Zappa

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Aug 28 2025 16:44 utc | 49

B is dead right with his final sentence. International capital wants cheap labour in Britain. Farage is in thrall to billionaires not the people who will be conned into voting for him.
Posted by: Phil Espin | Aug 28 2025 14:33 utc | 6
b is partly right but the fundamental reason all Western leaders with the exception of Trump favour huge immigration : all Western countries are Ponzi schemes such that when Demographics turn down because Indigenous people don’t reproduce (mostly because they can’t afford it)so the retirement payments, medical payments the Sovereign will go bankrupt .
Finally, the like to dumb down the Indigenous vote with newcomers.

Posted by: canuk | Aug 28 2025 16:45 utc | 50

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 28 2025 14:56 utc | 13
The UK no longer exists……..
<=yes, its part of the global merger.. relocating industry to places with cheaper labor de industrializes the war faring nations and leaves them no access to weapon production.. Solution: transport cheap labor to the industrialized nations. latest data: AI has replaced 13% of all entry level professional jobs. and this trend is accelerating.. Soon there will be few entry-entry level jobs. Problem: these people need welfare support and are homeless: Solution: the organs of excess labor and the unemployed have become the inventory for the organ for sale industry. Organ transplantation is booming. Flunk out of school, become homeless, go bankrupt, get sick, get replaced by AI or just become a stateless victim via war and you will become an unwitting organ donor.. The organs for sale industry is booming.

Posted by: snake | Aug 28 2025 17:23 utc | 51

afd is fake..
Posted by: james | Aug 28 2025 14:50 utc | 10
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Meaning what?
That you are a leftist?
Or what?

Posted by: Jane | Aug 28 2025 17:32 utc | 52

“I doubt that voting for Farage would change a thing.”
It will not.
Democracies aren’t for good regular people. They’re for the banking cartel. They are functioning exactly as designed.
This be obvious to everyone by now.

Posted by: GreatLakesObserver | Aug 28 2025 17:32 utc | 53

From an old Craig Murray post: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/12/peoples-vote-in-danger-of-becoming-war-criminal-rehabilitation/
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The major reason that Remain lost the referendum campaign in England and Wales is that the Remain campaign was fronted by the most detested and discredited politicians in the UK: Blair, Brown, Cameron, Clegg, Mandelson, Osborne, and Kinnock and Straw jr. There is nothing these people could propose which would not be rejected out of hand by huge numbers, just at the sight of them.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 28 2025 17:35 utc | 54

It doesn’t help that there is no Left voice for anti-immigration policies. . . .
Posted by: Gracchus | Aug 28 2025 15:35 utc | 22
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At least Sahrah Wagenknecht has articulated a left-wing anti-immigration argument.
In fact, her arguments are fairly similar to those of the AfD.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 28 2025 17:37 utc | 55

Canuk #50: the indigenous people in the west are not reproducing in growth numbers not because they can’t afford to but because this is a natural outcome of modern life, especially with education and outside home employment for women. It has been happening across the board in wildly different economies and cultures from Japan and Korea to China, Russia and Iran to eastern and Western Europe and finally the native born U.S. too.
What has not kept pace is a different concept of economic growth that accounts for growth during population downturn, which is an inevitable and much desirable outcome of modernity.
The population is going down no matter what; we need to figure out what to do and the stupid stop gap of just importing people needs to stop.

Posted by: Caliman | Aug 28 2025 17:59 utc | 56

Farage’s anti-immigrant stance is nothing about immigration per se. It is fundamentally a racialist issue. He’d have no problem if Polish plumbers and Romanian farm workers could be lured back into the economic and social-welfare-absent shithole that is modern UK. Where his real beef lies is with people from the former colonised Indian sub-continent and African colonies. You can be sure if the entire remaining population of Ukraine wanted to come and provide cheap labour in the UK, he’d be ok with it.
All the UK political leaders apart from Corbin’s new party are quite happy with importing a working class, despite their duplicitous statements.

Posted by: Vragtes | Aug 28 2025 18:01 utc | 57

In the early 17th century ceremonies were held, by which each new generation established the legitimacy of the government. They were called “coronations”, and at a lower level similar takings of oaths before representatives of the Church and God also established the legitimacy of local barons or lords.
A series of religious wars in Europe brought this system into doubt. New philosophical systems arose, which established concepts of equality before the law, separation of legal powers, and basic rights guaranteed for all.
As these new philosophical systems took hold and through revolution and civil war, a new ceremony for legitimizing the exercise of legal and political power was required. These we call “elections”. They need not always be fair, as the rotten buroughs of Britain showed. Candidacy may not be open to all. They may be far from “democratic” perfection. But, for the legal and political system to function legitimately they must be regularly held. They are most importantly a symbolic ceremony for assuring sovereignty and bestowing legitimacy. They are not a guarantee the the will of a nation will be reflected in the legitimated government that results.

Posted by: kvp | Aug 28 2025 18:03 utc | 58

Agree with 3. Brevity was a completely English project. Scotland and Northern Ireland voted against it. Internal migration within the UK predominantly to Scotland has seen an increase in the vote of anti migration parties which has created the perverse situation that the most tolerant of countries now has a significant number voting for intolerance despite the fact that most in Scotland accept, like other Scandinavian countries, that migration is beneficial.

Posted by: Cavery | Aug 28 2025 18:06 utc | 59

re. #53
“You know how corporations don’t care about anyone and everybody is just a number in American society?
Here is Hitler describing how stock exchange jews turn your society into just that…”
https://x.com/uncommonsince76/status/1960837671137264092

Posted by: GreatLakesObserver | Aug 28 2025 18:07 utc | 60

S Brennan@23:
“Fine Gael councillor Declan Burgess said it was ‘ deeply concerning…'”; yet it has been his party in government that has been pushing this immigration most. Perhaps he sees the writing on the wall: the end of his political career.

Posted by: SLM | Aug 28 2025 18:07 utc | 61

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 28 2025 17:35 utc | 54
I know of at least one committed Europhile who, on hearing that Cameron had said he would ‘resign if he lost the referendum’, proudly voted to leave.
Restored my faith in human nature.
🙂

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 28 2025 18:20 utc | 62

35 EO , B, et al
Haha, B once again ignores the existence of satoshis invention in this matter… Reform UK has made friendly noises towards said invention while mainland Europe is still planning its dystopian CBDC rollout (never mind Germany pissing away a potential reserve asset at a pittance last year)… all this said, anyone can still use satoshis’ invention without permission … but sooooo many remain cowering before the banksters’ and their owned politicians, quite sad, while a significant subset of same banksters/politicians hoover up this scarce asset at still suppressed price!

Posted by: L | Aug 28 2025 18:20 utc | 63

Looking forward to my new email here being banned/shadowbanned!

Posted by: L | Aug 28 2025 18:27 utc | 64

Posted by: Cavery | Aug 28 2025 18:06 utc | 59
most in Scotland accept, like other Scandinavian countries, that migration is beneficial

Are you sure this still applies to Denmark and, especially, Sweden? In these countries, population *and* governments turned around against unlimited immigration.

Posted by: Konami | Aug 28 2025 18:28 utc | 65

The UK like all the western states need migrants to keep wages low and to do all the menial jobs.
The british elite (who never change even as the pm or party in power does) love immigrants who will work for pennies and serve the dual purpose of a distraction to the white working class who, while feeling the sting of the impact of immigration, focus their rage (witht eh aid of the elite owned media) on the migrants themselves rather than the british elites who perpetuate and profit from this arrangement.
Farage etc are the same as kier starmer, they all serve the british ruling class,not the wider british public.

Posted by: Biggpapi | Aug 28 2025 18:29 utc | 66

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 28 2025 14:27 utc | 3
Stupid boy.

Posted by: DM: | Aug 28 2025 18:35 utc | 67

What good are democracies when the outcome of elections bring the opposite of what voters wish?

I admit to being torn. As Churchill was alleged to have said: “The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter.”
In theory, with modern technology, it should be possible for the public to initiate a recall or no confidence vote for governments that betray their promises.

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Aug 28 2025 18:36 utc | 68

Can someone post that illuminating video of Barbara Spectre (sp?)

Posted by: Exile | Aug 28 2025 18:37 utc | 69

It is very possible that Farage becoming the next UK prime minister would not change a thing.
However, it is disingenuous to lump Farage with all of his predecessors. Johnson, Starmer, Sunak, etc etc are all card carrying members of the UK political establishment and globalists to boot.
Farage is not. He has been persecuted by the UK deep state.
It does not mean Farage will take on this particular toxic issue – it is a legitimate criticism of Farage that he seems more interested in being in opposition than doing the work of implementing different policies.
But this is a very different critique.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 28 2025 18:37 utc | 70

Central banksters want more immigration (foreign workers) to offset ageing populations & prevent wage increases, as they admitted at their recent Jackson Hole meeting.
– Across rich economies birth rates are at historically low levels, while people are living much longer. That has raised so-called dependency ratios, meaning that a far higher share of the population is no longer of working age.
ECB president Christine Lagarde said an influx of foreign workers would play a “crucial role” in countering the negative impact of demographic trends on economic growth.
– Central bankers predict population ageing will not only lower output but also risks pushing up inflation, as workers would be able to demand higher wages in an environment where labour shortages were widespread.
https://archive.ph/qYsov
In western ‘democracies’, do politicians do what voters, or what banksters, want?

Posted by: Ffrank | Aug 28 2025 18:42 utc | 71

Posted by: I forgot | Aug 28 2025 16:27 utc | 39
Obviously that’s partly true, but there was always a faction in the so-called “free and democratic” west (inclusive of Europe, but even more so in North America) who didn’t care and wanted to treat the serfs like chattel anyway. The USSR served as a check in several ways including the “threat of a (possibly) alternative example” (much like anything resembling socialism in this hemisphere), and scared some of the oligarchs into reluctantly making a few concessions. There was also the PR angle, aimed at the USSR and Soviet bloc, along the lines of “See? Our people are also “equal” and they can wear Levis!”
Communism (or “communism”) in the west was (and still is where it pops up) savagely crushed, inveighed against from kindergarten on, slandered, given the USAID/NED treatment, etc. To the point that anything remotely “socialist” in flavor is immediately labeled “communism” and then surveilled, databased, infiltrated, sabotaged and bought off when possible [which is nearly always the case when we’re talking about American politicians].
What is interesting to me is the way China is treated. It’s nothing like the panic of the Cold War 1.0, but it’s still ridiculous. I think this is partly due to the ‘online’ 24/7 ability to live stream (and view similar content) which – in the neo feudal, increasingly austere USA, makes it nearly impossible to tell too many lies about how bad the Chinese have it. Even the “social credit system” lies have mostly faded into the background now that American kids (teens and 20s) can easily go to one of the apps and check the facts with real Chinese people. And the major push to ban TikTok wasn’t even because of that – It was because the Zionists and Zionist Jews weren’t happy with their planned genocide being showed to the world, live and in color.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 28 2025 18:43 utc | 72

Slopulism: 5 Tricks Populists Use To Manipulate Followers
Expect NOTHING from Farage.
He’s a right of centre sheepdog, as evidenced by his December 2019 plea: ‘don’t vote for me, vote for Boris’.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 28 2025 18:48 utc | 73

I see the BREXIT vote as being manipulated by the UK elite that didn’t want their money visible to the EU politicians, not immigration which the elite also manipulated to their favor….cheap labor

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 28 2025 18:49 utc | 74

“B is dead right with his final sentence. International capital wants cheap labour in Britain. Farage is in thrall to billionaires not the people who will be conned into voting for him.
Posted by: Phil Espin | Aug 28 2025 14:33 utc | 6”
James Dale Davidson had it right, there are left-handed and right-handed billionaires.

Posted by: Drapetomaniac | Aug 28 2025 18:50 utc | 75

I see lots of comments about immigration to Canada. I live in Northeastern Ontario and my community is participating in the Rural Community Immigration and Francophone Community Immigration Pilot Projects. (we also participated in the previous Rural & Northern Immigration Pilot Project) These projects were taken up at the behest of employers who lacked skilled, competent employees in a community and region that has had net out-migration since 1991. These are great programs to help employers fill vacant positions, especially in the health care and education fields. Unfortunately, there was no parallel housing project so landlords and banks get to gouge the working class. As expected, this is creating class warfare where the working class argues over deedledee (Liberals), deedledum (Conservatives), and their hanger-ons (NDP, Green, New Blue…) who only offer the veneer of choice but whose economic policies only strengthen the positions of the rentiers gouging the working class. And that is the real problem and the rentiers are the real enemy. My region is larger than all of the UK (and mostly trees/tundra) so allowing more people to move here is not a big problem. The problem is that the social services these people need are continuously eroded in order to provide tax cuts to the rentier class so they can continue to make more money in their sleep. The problem is not immigration but the rentiers, their propaganda outlets, and the politicians who cater to them.

Posted by: HCNorth | Aug 28 2025 18:51 utc | 76

Well silly me.
All this time i’v been thinking that farage and his gang of racist, violence loving ignorent knuckle draggers just like fighting people much weaker than they are.
Jus shows how wrong i can be.
Sarc.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 28 2025 18:56 utc | 77

On Farage again.
At the start here Mercouris gives a general survey of economic prospects in the UK, Germany and France.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axeEvCgTyBU&ab_channel=AlexanderMercouris
Whether we resort to the IMF or not the UK economy is in trouble. I don’t believe Farage would be the man to get us out of that. Not that I can think of anyone who would be.

Posted by: English Outsider | Aug 28 2025 19:03 utc | 78

@ I forgot | Aug 28 2025 15:02 utc | 16
b retweets people who describe AfD as “nazis.” I doubt he’s concerned that his “home country seems to lack protection of speech” considering he shares his rulers’ hysterical view of the opposition.

Posted by: chedolf | Aug 28 2025 19:06 utc | 79

Imigration is a symptem of a problem not the problem itself.
Stop flooding the world with arms.
Stop trashimg countys with proxy leaders starting cival war.
Stop financal destabilisig countrys.
Oh yes and faretrade.
Imigration is just karmer.
Lap it up.
The rest of the world are sick of british scroungers.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 28 2025 19:13 utc | 80

As governments curtail social benefits to fuel the war machine, immigrants become targets because they are seen to be taking part of the pie that was previously doled out: The overall pie is shrinking, immigrants are given part of that shrinking pie which leaves an even smaller amount for everyone else. And as benefits are cut annually, the pie shrinks ever further while immigrants keep arriving thus accelerating the pie’s shrinkage. If the pie remained stable or was growing, immigration wouldn’t be a political issue because the economy could easily absorb them. And if the economy was growing, immigrants would add to the tax revenue base and pay for the benefits they receive.
Immigration is used by demagogues to make political hay instead of trying to improve economic performance. When the aim of elites is to shrink the pie by taking more for themselves and not increasing economic performance, immigration is often used to take the minds/eyes of the public off their actions and direct it elsewhere–Divide and Rule.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 28 2025 19:17 utc | 81

Western democracy is a sham and Ursula Von der Leyen de facto proved it.
At an event in Finland a demonstrator was yelling some things. Ursula’s response was that if those that scream and yell things (the kakistocracy doesn’t like) at such a rally weren’t in this EU country without any restrictions, that they would be jailed in 2 minutes. And that’s exactly what happened less than 2 minutes later.
Gauleiter Ursula shouting that the EU is free
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zofkQU_JtFs
Armando Mema arrested
https://static44.tgcnt.ru/posts/_0/39/3950216e169666b13b1312bd534490a4.jpg
Western democracies decades ago became dictatorships where the citizenry participate in a spectacle every 5 years or so where delegates are chosen who make empty promises. If delegates truly form a danger to the power structure, a character assassination campaign is triggered through the media and then the judicial branch. The elections only purpose is to stifle meaningful resistance through protests and give the citizenry the idea that they participate in the decision making process. The only thing they truly participate in are meaningless contradictions that have 0 influence on the balance of power. Asinine contradictions like whether toilets will be gender neutral or not and drinking bottles that get to have caps that don’t fall off.

Posted by: xor | Aug 28 2025 19:18 utc | 82

#79: if it quacks like a nazi and walks like a nazi, it’s a nazi … whether it’s a nazi of slightly more modern plumage.
And so just because one calls outfits by their proper name does not make one a suppressor of free speech.

Posted by: Caliman | Aug 28 2025 19:21 utc | 83

Must be getting old, I can remember when leading figures of the political Left in Britain were vociferously opposed to Common Market/EEC/EC/EU membership.
Names that many have forgotten, such as Jack Jones, Len Murray, Frank Chapple; was never sure what to make of Viscount Anthony Wedgwood Benn’s opposition, whether it was principled or performative.
Interested folks could do worse than look up the 1983 election manifesto of the Labour Party, which described the steps to be taken to depart from the then EEC. Of course that got swamped by the patriotic surge resulting from the Falklands campaign; having said that, I guess many people also forget how deep in the opinion polls doo-doo Thatcher was, before taking everyone to task.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 28 2025 19:23 utc | 84

Republicofscotland | Aug 28 2025 14:27 utc | 3
“we are held in this illegal union”
Come come, now – the Scottish Parliament voted to join the Union – admittedly because the members – many of whom were short of cash after Darien – were heavily bribed by the English.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darien_scheme
and we ordinary Brits (of whatever nation and heritage) had sod-all power to do anything before universal suffrage.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 28 2025 19:28 utc | 85

For the elite is a very helpfull distraction from the wests failure in ukraine, and the mass murder of 2,000,000 inocent Palestinians.
Imiagration… ooo look a squirll.
Deliberat devide and rule, allowing buseness as usal.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 28 2025 19:32 utc | 86

The notion that Farage has been persecuted by the ruling class is laughable! He is the epitome of the anti-intellectual, wealth obsessed, trickledown, anti-worker establishment. To suggest that he is any different to the Starmer, Johnson, Badenoch, Davies group is a false dichotomy. They’re reactionary to a man/woman and you’d struggle to get a cigarette paper between them in terms of policies and politics.

Posted by: Vragtes | Aug 28 2025 19:35 utc | 87

psychohistorian | Aug 28 2025 18:49 utc | 74
The UK elites wanted the UK in the EU and never thought they could lose – which is why the double shock of Brexit and Trump caused a lot of liberals to look for an outside scapegoat – like Russian interference. In their minds, Brexit and Trump were inexplicable by normal political processes.
The entire BBC coverage of the Brexit vote – from close of polls, with Remain strong favourites and happy studio guests, through the shock of the first results in the North East, to the gloom of 7 am the following morning, is all on youtube.
I went to bed early, convinced Remain would win despite my leave vote – but the moment I turned on BBC Radio at 6.30 am I knew Leave had won, because the studio mood was so gloomy.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 28 2025 19:38 utc | 88

Clearly the Scots can’t be trusted to run their own affairs, after all, who in the world kept voting for Nicola Sturgeon? 😀
And just look at the state of their football teams…
Champions League,
You’re having a laugh
”…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 28 2025 19:39 utc | 89

farage is a city of london man.
city of london is foreign as in beyond sea
remember the song somewhere beyond the sea that is the key
has george galloway or farage or even saint jeremy corbyn ever mention the 3 legal wise men who sit next to the speaker of the house?
who do they represent why the foreign corporation of london crime syndicate.
everything is bar temple pirate legal fictions
all of them witches satanic hounds of bal moloch moshiec do as thy wilt shall be the whole of the law for the chosen few
babylon whores and the protocols they advance
init

Posted by: normal wisdom | Aug 28 2025 19:41 utc | 90

They voted for Brexit because they did not want to hear Polish spoken on the streets in their pretty English towns.
It felt like they were in Poland they said.
It was so obvious that even that moron Radek Sikorsky noticed that, and pointed it to Stephen Sackur in one of his Hard Talk interviews.
Stephen did not counter that, just smiled and nodded with his big, well shaped banana head.
Englanders basically dislike continentals, especially from Eastern Europe.
But the fact that Poles knowing that still want to be friends and ‘partners’ with English bastards is just appalling. Utter a lack of self respect.

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 28 2025 19:42 utc | 91

International capital wants cheap labour in Britain.
Posted by: Phil Espin | Aug 28 2025 14:33 utc | 6
######
Has anyone given a deep think to what the elites will do when they no longer need labor?
Citizens are a liability, not an asset, as technology improves.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 28 2025 19:44 utc | 92

YetAnotherAnon (85).
No, most of the peers nobles and lords of the day were bribed with what was called the Equivalent a lump sum of cash, and the treaty was signed in a basement of a shop on the corner of a street in Edinburgh, away from prying eyes, on the street above mass rioting took place – this was reported back to Westminster by the English spy Daniel Defoe – interestingly part of the Equivalent, was used to start up the Royal Bank of Scotland.
On the signing of the illegal treaty Scotland took on England’s debt which stood around £19 millions pounds at that time, Scotland also acquired the Malt Tax.
Of course there couldn’t have been a union, for in Scotland the people are sovereign via the Claim of Right – which states any sovereign must swear to uphold the Claim of Right, or be deposed by the people, Queen Anne the monarch of England at the time – never swore to uphold the Claim of Right, and no more monarchs have sworn to uphold it since, one stipulation of the Claim is that no Scottish assets shall be taken from the country, the Claim of Right isn’t some obscure notion – it was re-ratified in Westminster without opposition in the late 1990’s.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 28 2025 19:44 utc | 93

@YetAnotherAnon | Aug 28 2025 19:38 utc | 88
As clear as day, I can remember waking up that morning, turning on BBC Breakfast TV and thinking that Her Maj had passed away, with so many of the presenters close to tears.
For myself, I still call myself a reluctant Brexiteer, voting to leave not because of immigration, but because of bureaucratic institutional overreach.

Pythagoras’s theorem – 24 words.
Lord’s Prayer – 66 words.
Archimedes’s Principle – 67 words.
10 Commandments – 179 words.
Gettysburg address – 286 words.
U.S. Declaration of Independence – 1,300 words.
U.S. Constitution with all 27 Amendments – 7,818 words.
EU regulations on the sale of cabbage – 26,911 words.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 28 2025 19:47 utc | 94

Vragtes | Aug 28 2025 19:35 utc | 87
“The notion that Farage has been persecuted by the ruling class is laughable!”
He’s literally unable to go for a pub meal with his children.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3006560/Nigel-Farage-brands-anti-Ukip-protesters-scum-invaded-pub-having-family-lunch-leaving-children-terrified.html

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 28 2025 19:48 utc | 95

DM: (67).
Could you elaborate a bit on the your remark – as to why?

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 28 2025 19:48 utc | 96

Thinking that former city banker nigel farage is not aligned with the british ruling class is very silly.

Posted by: Biggpapi | Aug 28 2025 19:49 utc | 97

All 3 uk partys ‘appear’ to be trying to out compete each other on who is furthest right wing. They can see the support farage is getting ( violent mobs in he street, labour and torys are getting left behind. Or is both their stance on imigration deliberatly endorsing farage/reform, at the behest of the people who really run the country not least the izzies.
Look at the scale of media coverage.
A deliberate attempt to nazify the uk.
I think so. Look at how these same people achieved that in ukraine, sucssesfully.
Expect a couple of million dead reform supporters,
Surplus to requirments.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 28 2025 19:51 utc | 98

chillax
take a chill pill goyim it is over deal with.
you been spectored
“I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.” – Barbara Lerner Spectre

Posted by: normalwisdom | Aug 28 2025 19:54 utc | 99

Vragtes | Aug 28 2025 19:35 utc | 87
“The notion that Farage has been persecuted by the ruling class is laughable!”
The Queen’s bank closed his account.
“Coutts closed Nigel Farage’s account because he didn’t ‘align with their values’ – documents obtained by ex-Ukip leader show reputational risk committee ‘exited’ him after considering his views on issues such as Brexit”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/18/nigel-farage-coutts-bank-account-closed-align-with-values/
A lot of people think they know all about UK politics. Farage is by no means a left socialist. More of a City wide boy. But he is not an establishment figure.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 28 2025 19:57 utc | 100