Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
August 15, 2025
“The Ukrainian Soldier … is just not there.”

During the last week Russian forces managed to breach into the rear of the Ukrainian defense line:

During the last three days Russian forces achieved a major breakthrough. After the heavy bombardment of Ukrainian positions with over 1,300 FAB bombs Russian detachments moved north of the salient (green) they had built between the semi-encircled cities Pokrovsk and Konstantinivka.

They have reached and breached the well built second Donbas fortification line (in yellow) which had been dug over the last year.


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The Ukrainian supply line along the T-05-14 road between Dobropilla and Kramatorsk has been cut. Beyond that line is open space.

Prepared ditches and other positions are no longer manned. Russian troops can infiltrate through the thinly manned lines. Ukrainian drone units, which are supposed to cover the holes in the frontline, are getting suppressed by Russian bombing and counter drone forces. Confusion sets in once Russian diversion teams appear in the rear.

The Ukrainian army has ordered parts of its 'elite' Azov forces from Izyum in the north towards the Pokrovsk area to counter the Russian breakthrough. They will be too little too late to make a difference.

At least six brigades of Ukrainian forces were pulled from other parts of the front in an attempt to check the Russian breach of the line. Some were ambushed while on the way others while taking up their new positions. Theose who arrived did not manage to change the map.

Pulling these forces from other parts of the frontline will leave holes in those parts for Russian forces to further attack through. The breakthrough will thus be repeated elsewhere. This process can be repeated and repeated until the whole Ukrainian defense breaks down and the army retreats in panic.

Only a few of the western defense analysts have seen this coming. One is Konrad Muzyka of Rochan Consulting. He has good relation with many Ukrainian officers and has regularly visited units at the frontline.

Below are excerpts from a long interview with him that was published yesterday in Rzeczpospolita, the Polish 'paper of record'.

Ukraine lacks troops, not equipment

Excerpts (machine translated, edited for clarity):

You recently returned from another visit to Ukraine. What is the current situation at the front?

The Russians continue to maintain the strategic initiative along the entire length of the front. Apart from very local counterattacks, the Ukrainians are retreating. The Russian Federation forces are very strongly advancing on several axes, especially in the area of the Battles of Chasiv Yar, Toretsk, Pokrovsk, the village of Novosilka, and recently in Zaporozhia, that is, in the deep south.

It is worrying that Russia's territorial gains, especially in July, were quite significant and larger than in previous months. The Russians have advanced 10-12 km along several axes. This is something we haven't seen before. If there were any territorial conquests before, they were concentrated around one area. Now we have several areas where the front is starting to leak.

What to expect in the coming weeks?

I assume that in the future, the Russians will slowly bleed the Ukrainians to open the front and further accelerate the march to the west and north towards Kramatorsk and Slavyansk. At the moment, our main scenario is that what the Russian troops are doing now will not change.

How many Russians are there now?

Some 650 thousand, of which some 40 thousand have arrived since January. The Russians are able to recover losses very quickly. The withdrawal of a company or battalion that has suffered losses of several tens of percent, and the restoration of its personnel takes a maximum of two weeks.

What are the main problems on the Ukrainian side?

[…] when it comes to the Ukrainian soldier, the biggest problem is that he's just… not there. And this is due to the fact that the scale of desertion and abandonment of units without consent is very high. This creates a dangerous situation: if you take into account the loss of soldiers on the front line, desertion and abandonment of units without consent, the number of soldiers on the Ukrainian side decreases month after month. Although officially the Ukrainians mobilize 20-30 thousand people every month, most of them do not get to the front line.

This is a very big structural problem that has remained unresolved for a long time, and there is no indication that it will change soon. Other issues include the quality of command, the personal equipment these soldiers receive, the characteristics of Ukrainian commanders-in-chief, and the phase of the war.

In what sense?

The situation is quite different with an army, when the army is winning and there is a greater chance, or at least hope, that the war will soon end, than with an army whose morale is running out for days and which is retreating every day or week under the onslaught of Russian troops. This can probably also be translated to the other side. Russians are more likely to enlist in the military because they expect this war to eventually end because the Russian army is winning. …

What else is visible at the front?

Over the past year, the Ukrainians have defended their positions using drones, artillery and infantry. However, there are currently so many Russian drones that Ukrainian units often refuse to use artillery, since unmanned vehicles are constantly circulating in the area of its deployment. In areas of the front where artillery nevertheless opens fire, a response in the form of Russian counter-battery fire occurs within one to two minutes, and over the next few minutes swarms of unmanned aerial vehicles appear in the area, which track and destroy the detected guns.

In addition, the Russians conduct extremely effective counter-drone actions, focusing on the fight against both Ukrainian intelligence and strike drones. Since most of the Ukrainian logistics currently relies on unmanned aerial vehicles, their systematic elimination is a serious problem. At the battalion level 70-80% of logistics efforts go to the supply of UAV units, and only 20-30 percent to support the infantry. Preserving the capabilities of UAVs is a higher priority for Ukrainians than ensuring the actions of linear units.

Where will this war be in six months?

This, of course, is very difficult to predict. Our baseline scenario assumes that the previous pattern of actions will continue, but we observe that the front is beginning to gradually "leak". The Russians have imposed a war of attrition on Ukraine, and Kiev decided to take up the challenge, which at some point could lead to a sharp acceleration of events. Perhaps we are now entering the first stage. It remains an open question whether the crash will occur or whether the Ukrainians will decide to move additional strategic reserves and specialized drone units to stop the Russian flow of unmanned aerial vehicles. The Ukrainian Command of unmanned Systems appears to be closely studying the actions of the Russians, and in the coming weeks and months, it will prioritize the destruction of Rubicon drone units and other Russian unmanned formations.
[…]
As for the implementation of a strategic operation, the purpose of which would be to reverse the negative trend that the Ukrainians have been in for two years, there is currently no chance. The Ukrainians are too short of troops. Although, given the character and personality of General Sirsky, I would not be at all surprised if limited offensive operations were undertaken.

Could more help by the West make a difference here?

In my opinion, no. The fundamental problems faced by Ukrainians are Ukrainian problems. This applies to: the quality of command, the number of soldiers on the front line, the methods of using forces, both manpower and drones. etc. [..] The transfer of hundreds more ATACMS missiles to the Ukrainians would not change the nature of this war. After all, to recapture a town, you need infantry, supported by drones and artillery. And the Ukrainians are short of infantry, artillery is effectively defeated – Western equipment is not a panacea for all the problems of Ukraine. The main problems that Ukraine faces must be solved by the government in Kiev, and not by Western states.

As the Ukrainian forces lack the ability to launch a meaningful counterattack their best chance to prevent a further rapid loss of personnel and capabilities is to radically shorten the frontline.

A retreat of some 20 kilometers from the current lines, giving up on semi-encircled cities and moving behind natural barriers could nearly half the length of the front that has to be covered. It would double the density of its defenses.

While such a move would be unlikely to change the long term perspective of the war it would enable Ukraine to hold out longer.

Comments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69z6Q84c6dg&t=429s
Expert opinion that Ukraine may have been demilitarized, de facto. Bad demographics, huge loss of males. The result of serious attrition

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 15 2025 14:32 utc | 1

Hence why there is a hastily arranged meeting in Alaska today.
As I have been saying for two years. Ukraine is done.
Manpower is finite and trained manpower is rare.
Russia has deliberately targeted NATO/Nazi officers which, while not effective, take years to develop.
No officers, no army, just a bunch of press-ganged conscripts.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 15 2025 14:37 utc | 2

Security Guarantees, But No NATO Membership
President Trump gaggles with the press on Air Force One August 15, 2025 | AUDIO ONLY |

U.S. President Donald Trump signaled a shift in approach to Ukraine’s defense, suggesting that Kyiv could receive security guarantees “along with participation of Europe and other countries” — but not through NATO membership. Speaking ahead of his high-stakes meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska, Trump said a new security arrangement could help end the war while avoiding direct NATO-Russia confrontation. The remarks come as Ukrainian leaders push for stronger commitments and European allies weigh alternative security frameworks.

Trump open to security guarantees for Ukraine without NATO membership

Posted by: Oui | Aug 15 2025 14:42 utc | 3

Thanks for the posting b
I agree that this situation is why there is a meeting in Alaska today.
The conflict is being resolved on the battle field but now comes the MAD negotiating part…maybe a conditional surrender.
I guess we get to find out how that works.
Odessa resolution might be interesting at this point while if the SMO keeps going Russia will likely claim it for sure.
The shit show continues until it doesn’t….
How many hundreds of comments in this thread by end of day?
What will signal to noise ration be?….oh, for the old days……

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 15 2025 14:51 utc | 4

*** Trump said a new security arrangement could help end the war while avoiding direct NATO-Russia confrontation. ***
Posted by: Oui | Aug 15 2025 14:42 utc | 3
A statement made at the point of Oreshnik.

Posted by: frithguild | Aug 15 2025 14:59 utc | 5

It appears that Zelensky is waiting for permission to restart negotiations or else he has been told that there shall be no negotiations, because what he is doing now given the circumstances does not make sense. It seems it is for Russia to take at this point – as much or as little as they want, but comes at a cost. Too bad if they wont get Odessa – I think that it would make for a more sustainable peace, if they did seize Odessa. I guess one problem is that if the Ukrainians cant hold it they will see that it is destroyed – seems to be their method.

Posted by: jared | Aug 15 2025 15:01 utc | 6

The best result from today’s Trump circus in Anchorage is US and Russian diplomats meet next week……
“Security guarantees” are Minsk III. NATO peace keepers declartion of war on Russian Federation.
VVP should suggest Trump provide those guarantees to Kiev from west of the Rhine….

Posted by: paddy | Aug 15 2025 15:01 utc | 7

Posted by: Oui | Aug 15 2025 14:42 utc | 3
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It feels like Donald is negotiating against himself.
Ukrainian withdrawal from all Constitutional Russian territory, no compromises.
Even that is the bare minimum.
It is only Putin’s magnanimity that this farce of a summit is occurring.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 15 2025 15:02 utc | 8

Trump knows that Ukraine has to give up wholly – he knows that is a bad look for US.
So he is trying to spin it as Trump forcing a peace on Russia.
He doesn’t give a Fxxx what actually happens so long as he can say the Europeans paid for it

Posted by: Michael Droy | Aug 15 2025 15:04 utc | 9

Taking into account
(1) the nature of ukrop government,
(2) the kind of deal they made with Westeros,
(3) the terrain east of the Dniepr, and
(4) the differential in power between the two sides,
it seems to me that
(5) the vast majority of ukrop forces have been invested in the Ostfront.
Now, the Russians are very close to win the war in the Ostfront.
So, it follows that the conquest of the rest will be much easier and faster, including the whole of the Black Sea coast.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 15 2025 15:09 utc | 10

Security guarantees to whom? according to whose standards? Who to enforce them? What happens if and when the enforcer defaults, fails or treasons?
Just what guarantees are being made? what exceptions. what conditions, who (class of people) or what territory is not included in the guarantees?
Who will settle different interpretations in a timely manner?
I guarantee the air will not turn green unless the white turtle goes to sleep.. but the sleeping turtle is not completely white it has a red spot on its shell..

Posted by: snake | Aug 15 2025 15:10 utc | 11

Good time for a summit I guess.
HREF=”https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2025/08/good-news-6″>Interesting summation

Posted by: Mike Adamson | Aug 15 2025 15:12 utc | 12

thanks b..
big picture – hoping to defeat and isolate russia.. is this why the west prolongs the agony?? a real crazy deranged complex dictates to zelensky.. how long can that go on for?

Posted by: james | Aug 15 2025 15:12 utc | 13

i don’t understand why the US should make any security commitment to Ukraine. as Jennifer Kavanagh points out (h/t eighthman #1)
“For the United States, a bad deal over Ukraine—one that leaves the United States with long-term commitments—is infinitely worse than no deal at all.”

Posted by: annie | Aug 15 2025 15:12 utc | 14

More evidence that VVP and the RF hold all the cards………and they will play them.
Unless there is massive concessions on the part of the Ukronazis and their NATO handlers, this will be a meet and greet and talk economics session, and no more.
Give up Odessa and the Black Sea ports, expell the UKRN and NATO mercenary advisors, and guarantee the land bridge to Transnistria and then the RF will talk, otherwise just say bye for now.

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 15 2025 15:14 utc | 15

Ukraine destruction is a foregone conclusion.
Doesn’t matter what the chickens in Europe say. Or the rats in Kiev.
Americans have realized deals and want a peace deal with least amount of embarrassment for the US.
American demands:
– Russia withdraw from Sumy territories
– total ceasefire
American offer:
– Russia keeps all other lands
– no NATO for Ukraine. In writing
– New elections in Ukraine w with Russian participation
– reverse of all anti Russian laws in Ukaraine
– lift all sanctions on Russia
– start weapon/nuclear renegotiations
– New US Business deals with Russia
– no foreign troops in Ukraine. In writing
With this deal Russia would achieve all their initial objectives and then some.
Putting would take this.
It does not matter what chickens in Europe or rats in kiev say

Posted by: Comandante | Aug 15 2025 15:14 utc | 16

Oops sorry. Forgot. The one goal that Russia would have to give up is denazification.
And US would demand one more thing. Nobel peace price for the Orangegutan.
Putin would take this.

Posted by: Comandante | Aug 15 2025 15:17 utc | 17

The RF is very close to a complete breakout and a race to the Dnieper. If they reach the river bank first, they cut off a majority of the UAF armies trapped east of the river.
We are already seeing today a twin encirclement of the tens of thousands of UAF troops and units…….this situation worsens by the hour for the UAF….
Make a deal and fast otherwise its May 1940 all over again for the Volo crew.
Anyone have a spare railway coach that can be used?

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 15 2025 15:21 utc | 18

America cannot deliver anything wrt NATO. Trump has demonstrated with Iran that he is perfidious and acts in bad faith.
Russia must continue until NATO collapses.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 15 2025 15:23 utc | 19

There is a lot of misinformation in that Polish report – though b seems to have pulled out the accurate bits. Pity I was hoping for an honest journalist.
They reckon Russian sign-ups can be at the front in a few days – quite unlike Ukrainian who get additional training in their units … yawn yawn. He even claims young Russians are beaten tortured into signing up. While Ukrainians he claims are getting 30 or 60 days training (one way to explain how slowly they trickle through I guess).
All part of the pretend story that Russians are throwing meat at Ukraine and taking many more casualties.
Yet we know what happens, 4 men on motorbikes approach briefly, draw a bit of fire, and 30 – 50 FABs land on the Ukrainians.

Posted by: Michael Droy | Aug 15 2025 15:27 utc | 20

Security guarantees to whom? ***
Posted by: snake | Aug 15 2025 15:10 utc | 11
The press gaggle question in
Posted by: Oui | Aug 15 2025 14:42 utc | 3: “What about the possibility that the United States providing security guarantees to Ukraine along with Europe and other countries?”
“Maybe along with Europe and other countries. Not in the form of NATO, because that’s not going to — you know, there are certain things, uh, that aren’t going to happen. But, uh, yeah, along with Europe, there’s possibility,” the US President responded.
No NATO stated as certainty and the rest possibility. Not much sems to have advanced on that topic.
Dobropilla rabbit ears being called a statement by Russia in the negotiations that will be negative. Interesting technique for muting it’s significance.

Posted by: frithguild | Aug 15 2025 15:36 utc | 21

Johan Kaspar | Aug 15 2025 15:09 utc | 10
Even a destroyed Odessa, although a pity for the beautiful city, would be a gain for Russia if the entire Black Sea coast of Ukraine were controlled by Russia. With a piece of coastline, Ukraine (and England, etc.) would always have an option to attack sensitive locations in Russia.

Posted by: smartfox | Aug 15 2025 15:37 utc | 22

How much back rent will Putin demand for Alaska from 1967-2025 ?

Posted by: Exile | Aug 15 2025 15:38 utc | 23

Great post. Another bullshitter spewing shite. There are no Ukrainian soldiers because they’re DEAD or better off that way.
Desertion must be causing all the graveyards across Ukraine to be filling up so as they’re being shot by their nato buddies in the rear.

Posted by: Ogre | Aug 15 2025 15:40 utc | 24

Oops sorry. Forgot. The one goal that Russia would have to give up is denazification.
And US would demand one more thing. Nobel peace price for the Orangegutan.
Putin would take this.
Posted by: Comandante | Aug 15 2025 15:17 utc | 17
No, Putin cannot accept this. That is source for the War.

Posted by: smartfox | Aug 15 2025 15:41 utc | 25

Just co-incidence that the pro NATO Soros CIA and MI6 protestors in Serbia are escalating their attempts to overthrow the pro RF government in Belgrade?
Time to put the Serb Army into the streets to smash this coup attempt.
NATO wants to take down the Serbia government while the world is fixated on Anchorage.
Crush the NATOists…….

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 15 2025 15:42 utc | 26

smartfox 22 – Exactly Odessa and the Black Sea ports and the land bridge to Transnistria are the key RF demand.
Nothing short of that is acceptable. Leaving the RN in Odessa is a non starter.

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 15 2025 15:45 utc | 27

We are seeing the “Swiss Cheesing” of the front as gaping holes are opened when Ukie forces are redeployed to fill in another hole. Russian recon forces see the redeployments and move to fill those holes, and those holes are often 10+ Km deep. It was admitted by some Ukie officer that in too many places there are only drones to defend territory–no infantry. Ukie artillery is terrified of firing because they’re almost immediately attacked by drones, so why are they there? They need to become infantry. But that’s just as terrifying.
On the desertion issue, many “recruits” are more Russian than Ukrainian and have no loyalty to Ukraine since it became an Outlaw US Empire tool having lost all aspects of sovereignty with an illegitimate “president” too boot. Only the most severely indoctrinated are willing to fight, and their numbers are decreasing very rapidly. The Empire’s war on Russian speaking Ukrainians is having an outcome that should’ve been foreseen in 2014 when the coup was very stiffly resisted.
I’ve advocated many times for Ukie forces to retreat behind the Dnieper, while too many Western pundits forget that Russia has already reached the Dnieper. The analysis of glide bomb concentrations shows they’re performed roughly 30-60 days prior to a major offensive in that area. Such activity is exactly what’s happening opposite Kherson and South of Zaporizhya.
Russian ISR detects all troop concentrations and sends missiles to destroy them, which is why there’s no chance to introduce any number of NATO troops into the conflict–they won’t survive long enough to reach the front line. That reality seems to finally have entered into the heads of Macron and Starmer, although Merz remains to be convinced. The Poles are. NATO Neocons still seem to have hope of using Moldova then Romania and perhaps Armenia/Azerbaijan of continuing their conflict with Russia. And then there’s free agent Erdogan. IMO, the Neocons are today’s Hitlerian equivalent and won’t cease until they are destroyed. Unfortunately, too many are hiding behind the oceans within the Outlaw US Empire, and Trump is far too weak to enact the required purge.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 15 2025 15:48 utc | 28

Listening to Dima last night,
He indicated that the salient had paused it’s N by NW plunge. It seemed wise given the circumstance. Once again, Russia did not commit enough troops to fully support the thrust’s flanks without a pause to consolidate gains.
Given enough time ex-ukrainia will be able to conduct a salvage operation. Given enough time, new lines will form. Given enough time…oh for f~¢k’s sake…Russia has the reserves and then some.

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 15 2025 15:50 utc | 29

Fox news is now claiming, ahead of the Anchorage summit, that DJT has reached an agreement to settle the Serbia-Kosovo dispute!
Since when has an agreement been reached ?

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 15 2025 15:51 utc | 30

With a piece of coastline, Ukraine (and England, etc.) would always have an option to attack sensitive locations in Russia” – Smartfox 22
Exactly.
Leaving the RN in Odessa is a non starter” – Tobias Cole 27
Agree.
People who say this isn’t about taking/holding/armoring territory know nothing of the world.

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 15 2025 15:58 utc | 31

Too bad if they wont get Odessa – I think that it would make for a more sustainable peace, if they did seize Odessa.
jared | Aug 15 2025 15:01 utc | 6
Speculation: Russia will not seize Odessa. On the contrary, following the UAF’s disintegration, Russia’s provisions of surrender will prescribe a free and fair referendum(s). Odessa will then joyfully rejoin the Russian Federation, and Russia will then finally, administer justice as promised for the horrific Trade Union massacre. This process is called democracy under rule of universal law, a process utterly unrecognizable in the uncivilized Wasteland.

Posted by: Doug Terpstra | Aug 15 2025 15:58 utc | 32

Doug Terpstra | Aug 15 2025 15:58 utc | 32
Speculation: Russia will not seize Odessa. On the contrary, following the UAF’s disintegration, Russia’s provisions of surrender will prescribe a free and fair referendum(s). Odessa will then joyfully rejoin the Russian Federation, and Russia will then finally, administer justice as promised for the horrific Trade Union massacre. …
This requires that Russia first gets it controlled.

Posted by: smartfox | Aug 15 2025 16:06 utc | 33

It appear blatantly obvious now, that the West does not want to throw its own troops en masse into the fray in Ukraine, for that what this article sounds like – Ukraine needs men, military men – Russia can rely on the likes of North Korea to send as many soldiers as Putin needs, if they are needed, whereas Zelensky may have had plenty of terrorist mercenaries sent by the West, who are mostly dead now – the West is not committed to send a large body of its own troops to fill out Zelensky’s defensive front lines – and hence Trump’s tough talking on a ceasefire needing to be agreed upon – though I’d imagine Trump being a businessman and corporate puppet, is more concerned about access to the Donbass, to get to its desirable elements in the ground – and the latter point will be the real talking point, with the former point (the ceasefire) a follow up point, afterall, US firms cannot be expected to extract Ukraine’s wealth from beneath the soil with FAB bombs flying over head every two-minutes, so we may actually see a ceasefire, a ceasefire built mainly on Putin’s terms, the winners will be Putin and Trump and his corporate buddies – along with maybe Russian corporations having a hand in extracting Ukraine’s wealth from the soil, the losers Zelensky ( though he’s probably a billionaire who’ll head-off into the sunset) and the biggest losers are the Ukrainian people, lied to, robbed and on occasion murdered by their dictatorship.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 15 2025 16:06 utc | 34

re Doug Terpstra | Aug 15 2025 15:58 utc | 32
Hear, hear!

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 15 2025 16:07 utc | 35

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 15 2025 16:06 utc | 34
The military elite in Europe may be descended from 1812 France up to 1941 Germany but that doesn’t mean they’re going to commit certain suicide like their ancestors. The yanks aren’t that stupid either. No, NATO has blown its load with Ukraine military, they’ve nothing left for the battlefield, you’re correct as ever.

Posted by: Ogre | Aug 15 2025 16:13 utc | 36

“As I have been saying for two years. Ukraine is done.”
a prophet posts among us!

Posted by: Not Ewe | Aug 15 2025 16:17 utc | 37

Doug Terpstra (32) & smartfox (33).
Talking of taking control.
“Clear and convincing evidence will be presented here that, under U.S. President Barack Obama, the U.S. Government had a detailed plan, which was already active in June 2013, to take over Russia’s main naval base, which is in Sevastopol in Crimea, and to turn it into a U.S. naval base. There can now be no question that the war in Ukraine started, and resulted from, the U.S. Government’s plan to take over all of Ukraine, and especially to take over that Russian naval base, in Crimea, which then was in Ukraine. ”
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/11/02/the-obama-regimes-plan-to-seize-the-russian-naval-base-in-crimera/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 15 2025 16:24 utc | 38

The Azov Brigade must be destroyed if there is to be a lasting peace.

Posted by: Keme | Aug 15 2025 16:32 utc | 39

The shit show continues until it doesn’t….
How many hundreds of comments in this thread by end of day?
What will signal to noise ration be?….oh, for the old days……
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 15 2025 14:51 utc | 4
Hopefully this is the ending of the butchers bill for Slavs.
How long before the Ukrainians realise they need to look west to see their true enemies?

Posted by: jpc | Aug 15 2025 16:35 utc | 40

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, August 15th 2025: May be Useful to Some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-d42

Posted by: The Busker | Aug 15 2025 16:36 utc | 41

Russia’s provisions of surrender will prescribe a free and fair referendum(s). Odessa will then joyfully rejoin the Russian Federation” – Doug Terpstra 32
I sure wish this sugar-plum-fairy-scenario would become reality but sadley, it won’t.
The reality is, the Galicians have moved en-mass into Odessa. Their housing has been provided by former residents who were sent to the front to die in the highly touted “Attritional-Warefare”. Millions of dead men means wives, girlfriends, daughters did not have the income to keep their husband/boyfriend/son’s homes and so they were sold pennies on the dollar to Galicians.
There has been a demographic shift in ex-ukrainia, as I warned many times here, when a plebiscite is held, Russians are in for a real shock. The modern-day Galician Waffen SS, with the help of clueless legions of “Attritional-Warefare” supporters have ensured that ethnic/cultural-Russ/Hungarian/Slovakian and other non-Galician untermenschen have been exterminated.
The only thing that can be done at this point is: 1] Don’t take Odessa/environs and accept a permanent state war propped up by the ever bloodthirsty English aristocracy and their sycophantic minions; 2] Take Odessa/environs and sort out this mess, ensure those displaced, who are willing to live within the Russian commonwealth, are returned and that the Galician carpetbaggers are sent packing back to their Nazi shithole.

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 15 2025 16:37 utc | 42

Now the Russians don’t really trust Trump or the hardliners in DC and possibly London after all.
This is evident from the fact that Medvedev seems to have virtually disappeared from the scene, not a single comment from him online, and on this occasion, too!
Which suggests that, as Putin’s deputy, he has probably been taken to a safe place and is therefore unlikely to be online, at least not on social networks.
.
P.S.
This comment about missing him actually comes from a Telegram channel in Moscow…and is a topic of discussion there.

Posted by: Genesis | Aug 15 2025 16:37 utc | 43

@LoveDonbass | Aug 15 2025 14:37 utc | 2

As I have been saying for two years. Ukraine is done.

In May 2022 I told my friends the outcome was given, Russia would win. They looked at me like I was an imbecile.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 15 2025 16:39 utc | 44

Given enough time ex-ukrainia will be able to conduct a salvage operation. Given enough time, new lines will form. Given enough time…oh for f~¢k’s sake…Russia has the reserves and then some.
Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 15 2025 15:50 utc | 29
Disagree. Ukraine is a dead man limping. Russia’s patience is a proven virtue at this point. It’s the Ukies and their Imperialist backers who need to rush.
Even if Putin strikes a deal for the areas it’s already added to the federation and fighting ends for a year, it’s Russia that will emerge stronger, not Ukraine.
A one year peace would be fatal for Ukraine. Once the war ends, political recriminations begin. There will be no good reason left to suppress the population. The tragic Ukie workers will begin to process the experience they just suffered and draw conclusions. A great change in social consciousness would emerge.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 15 2025 16:41 utc | 45

@Republicofscotland | Aug 15 2025 16:24 utc | 38

“Clear and convincing evidence will be presented here that, under U.S. President Barack Obama, the U.S. Government had a detailed plan, which was already active in June 2013, to take over Russia’s main naval base, which is in Sevastopol in Crimea, and to turn it into a U.S. naval base. There can now be no question that the war in Ukraine started, and resulted from, the U.S. Government’s plan to take over all of Ukraine, and especially to take over that Russian naval base, in Crimea, which then was in Ukraine. “

That is correct, the US government even placed an open tender for the renovation of Sevastopol School #5 !
Why were the US Navy going to repair the school in Sevastopol?
2014 quote:

The American side placed the tender for the repair of the school of Sevastopol in connection with the desire to eventually turn it into one of the engineering points of the US Navy in Crimea. This version is expressed by Sergey Aksyonov himself. This version is indirectly confirmed by the fact that the customer is the engineering and construction command of the US Navy.
Information about the tender is still on the US government procurement website, indicating that the tender was canceled only on April 15 of the year 2014. A week has passed since the cancellation of the tender, but information about the desire to repair the roof and facade of the Sevastopol school at the Sevastopol school did not disappear from the electronic platform.
In connection with the reunification of Sevastopol and the Crimea with Russia, the United States definitely saved the repair of the Sevastopol school.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 15 2025 16:46 utc | 46

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 15 2025 16:39 utc | 44
Some of the more hardcore russophobe will look at as if you were an imbecile even nowaday.

Posted by: Mario | Aug 15 2025 16:47 utc | 47

The only thing that can be done at this point is: 1] Don’t take Odessa/environs and accept a permanent state war propped up by the ever bloodthirsty English aristocracy and their sycophantic minions; 2] Take Odessa/environs and sort out this mess, ensure those displaced, who are willing to live within the Russian commonwealth, are returned and that the Galician carpetbaggers are sent packing back to their Nazi shithole.
Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 15 2025 16:37 utc | 42
What you describe is one of at least three possibilities.
Because if it even seems possible that the Russians will come to Odessa, no matter how!
All the Nazis there will disappear very quickly, at least the majority, and especially the leaders.
They won’t risk a second Mariupol, knowing full well that the majority of Russian soldiers will then take NO prisoners.
There is no perceived victory for the Russians without Odessa. Putin or Medvenew could talk as much as they wanted, but the Russian people and their survivors would always see it as a defeat and a betrayal.
They will never forget what these Nazis allowed themselves to do in Odessa, just the monuments that were torn down and graves desecrated…
When will you finally understand the Russian mentality, without which, by the way, thousands of volunteers would NOT sign up? Think of your country, your youth…they would run to the registration office in Afghanistan, Libya, Vietnam, etc. by the thousands. I don’t think so.
An “agreement,” an “end” without Odessa would always be considered a defeat in Russia, albeit subconsciously.
And no matter which Russians I’ve had contact with, this opinion is widespread. It’s good to speak and read Russian once you’ve been invited to these channels…
By the way, in pro-Ukrainian channels, Odessa is considered a turning point…a turning point that seals the end of the war…and in the event of an impending defeat, it would probably be destroyed by the Nazis there. The catacombs are already being used as storage areas (weapons and ammunition), and what the Nazis would do in the event of a loss was shown by their role models in 1945.

Posted by: Genesis | Aug 15 2025 16:54 utc | 48

@LoveDonbass | Aug 15 2025 14:37 utc | 2
As I have been saying for two years. Ukraine is done.
In May 2022 I told my friends the outcome was given, Russia would win. They looked at me like I was an imbecile.
Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 15 2025 16:39 utc | 44
I told some French ex pat on the beach that same thing, days after the war started. He was an aging, boomer devotee of US Imperialism. He looked angry when I said it–i was probably smiling and laughing as I spoke–then he sheepishly conceded, “you may be right”.
A year later I saw him again. I left my stuff in a pile while I went swimming. I came back and it was scattered everywhere. I asked some other foreign tourists nearby what happened and they pointed to that old piece of shit and said “he did it”.
That’s an Imperialist for you! Tell them the truth and they immediately want to injure you.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 15 2025 16:54 utc | 49

Ahenobarbus 45,
You missed the point. Russia will prevail militarily, I made that “captain-obvious” observation in 2014 when MI-6/US-3LAs/Mossad ginned this war up. I’m talking about what kinda of armistice will ensue should the Russian Military continue it’s attritional-warfare. Russia’s choice of tactics ensures that only the modern day Galician Waffen SS men remain alive as they force ethnic/cultural-Russ/Hungarian/Slovakian and other non-Galician untermenschen to die for their sick ideology.
Your emotive words may inspire some but, they leave me unmoved; war isn’t about who is right or wrong, history is perfectly clear on this point.

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 15 2025 16:55 utc | 50

Truth Special @RealDonaldTrump

I had a wonderful talk with the highly respected President of Belarus, Aleksandr Lukashenko. The purpose of the call was to thank him for the release of 16 prisoners. We are also discussing the release of 1,300 additional prisoners. Our conversation was a very good one. We discussed many topics, including President Putin’s visit to Alaska. I look forward to meeting President Lukashenko in the future. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Posted by: Oui | Aug 15 2025 16:56 utc | 51

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 15 2025 16:39 utc | 44
######
I got a lot of pushback from people with no strategic thinking.
I use the same strategic lens today when speaking about Israel and the West.
Many operate from emotion. You can’t say that about America! The IDF is invincible!
I don’t believe in sacred cows. Everything can and must be questioned in the pursuit of understanding.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 15 2025 16:57 utc | 52

Re: Trump/Rubio and potential security guarantees
Ukraine in NATO vs NATO in Ukraine is a distinction without a difference. Article 5 is optional: Upon such attack, each member state is to assist by taking “such action as [the member state] deems necessary…
The Coalition of the Willing (to procrastinate) will eventually have to decide. Capitulate or go in with serious manpower.

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Aug 15 2025 16:59 utc | 53

The presented war report exposes the eminent Ukraine colapse, wich is the motive for the Trump-Putin meeting.
US had to show they did something…
So, if they get a deal: Donbass Ukr retreat in exchange for RUS kharkiv retreat – Poker for Trump and victory for Russia (indiferent to have all Kherson and Zaporizhia)
If not – Ukrainian administration refuse – US did a lot and whashes it’s hands
Russia vcan finish it off!

Posted by: NAP | Aug 15 2025 17:06 utc | 54

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 15 2025 16:55 utc | 50
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Western Ukraine becomes a failed state on Europe’s border, bleeding refugees and crime into the EU.
A bargaining chip. Russia can say to the EU, “We can police it if you’d like to sign.”
Russia will have clean hands and can walk away from pulling a Libya/Syria move on the EU.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 15 2025 17:07 utc | 55

-Or-
Western Ukraine can slowly bleed the EU of money and manpower.
Eastern Ukraine will be part of a modern and wealthy superpower belonging to the world’s greatest trading block.
Russia doesn’t want Western Ukraine. It is a hot potato; they will force it down NATO’s throat.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 15 2025 17:10 utc | 56

Your emotive words may inspire some but, they leave me unmoved; war isn’t about who is right or wrong, history is perfectly clear on this point.
Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 15 2025 16:55 utc | 50
Funny, I don’t recall any emotive words. What was emotive to you, doomsayer?
Frankly, your concern panic re: triumphant Russia at just this point is ridiculous.
You don’t write like the Brennan who was present just a few months ago. Either you’re suffering a personal crisis of some sort or Brennan is not Brennan.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 15 2025 17:12 utc | 57

While Russian losses are 10-12% of Ukrainian losses in manpower, they remain VERY SUBSTANTIAL. Accordingly, Russia must achieve a FINAL STRATEGIC VICTORY that, in order to be final, must include all the land EAST OF DNIEPR and the ENTIRE BLACK SEA COASTLINE.
The Dniepr makes a great defensive line while an Ukraine without coastline would be defanged and humiliated into staying put for decades.
Anything less than the above would be a Russian defeat.

Posted by: Liberator | Aug 15 2025 17:21 utc | 58

Posted by: Oui | Aug 15 2025 16:56 utc | 51
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Trump is trying the Belarusian vector.
Too bad, Luka is a Soviet from head to toe.
Luka would take a bullet for Putin.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 15 2025 17:26 utc | 59

Anything less than the above would be a Russian defeat.
Posted by: Liberator | Aug 15 2025 17:21 utc | 58
And it would also be perceived as a defeat by the Russian people; Putin would have to come up with some words to be able to sell such a defeat as a victory.
According to the Western press, he’s currently weighing on other concerns, more of an economic nature. At least, that’s what “experts” on public television in Germany are saying. Their motto: Russia MUST negotiate, it’s FINISH because of Trump’s tariffs on India…
The worst part is, about 75% will believe it.

Posted by: Genesis | Aug 15 2025 17:29 utc | 60

A retreat of some 20 kilometers from the current lines … would be unlikely to change the long term perspective of the war it would enable Ukraine to hold out longer.
Posted by b on August 15, 2025 at 14:27 UTC | Permalink
OK. No matter what it does, Ukraine loses on the battlefield. What is possible is Ukraine buying time, at a cost of soldiers’ lives lost. So a rational action for Ukraine would be:
– retreat 20 kilometers, shorten the front.
– simultaneously open negotiations with Russia
– conclude the negotiations before the new defense lines crumble
Of course, this assumes Ukraine has agency.

Posted by: Passerby | Aug 15 2025 17:34 utc | 61

Posted by: Liberator | Aug 15 2025 17:21 utc | 58
Anything less than the above would be a Russian defeat.

Lol! In more serious words, “Anything less than the above” would be a partial military Russian victory (though it might be a larger political-economic victory).
Btw, anyone saying ‘Russia must do this or that’ looks like the gut parasite of flea telling the dog what to do.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 15 2025 17:34 utc | 62

One interesting note about Alaska meeting.
American bullshit history tells us Russia sold Alaska for 7.2 million in gold. Wrong.
The Russians blockaded Charleston during the civil war. The charge for it was $7.2 million.
Russia gave Alaska to the US as they didn’t want England acquire it as they had a strong navy and Russia’s was not-they hadn’t built the railway to East Russia yet.
Putin would be good to remind Trump of the perfidy of the City of London….

Posted by: canuk | Aug 15 2025 17:41 utc | 63

Posted by: Liberator | Aug 15 2025 17:21 utc | 58
Anything less than the above would be a Russian defeat.
<= To the credit of Russia they see past that trifling and are willing to forego the glory in deference to obtaining peace. The persons defeated by this conflict, no matter the outcome, are those whose lives were swindled (dead, wounded and those who education was made to suffer) in order to support a cause important only to the oligarchs and the nation state leaders the oligarchs appointed to engage in the bloodletting. IMO the world needs to classify the media as weapon of mass destruction. International law should make all [owners, officers and directors and managers of the media and all content providers] responsible for the truth in their publications and liable for the blood lost in misleading people and in promoting war, hate, refusal to negotiate in furtherance of aggression that infringes human rights. Now is the time I think to insist that those guilty of initiating and continuing this conflict stand trial on civil charges of infringement of human rights.

Posted by: snake | Aug 15 2025 17:43 utc | 64

It is amusing to read the American cope at the bar.
NATO lost. Russia won. The winner sets the terms.
The loser goes and sits in the corner alone.
Russia is riding high. It has never been more popular or powerful, reputationally speaking, since the heydays of the USSR.
Putin has all the power. He can continue or stop. There is no significant outside pressure to do anything. If there is pressure, it is internal, and it is to march to Manchester and plant a flag in the city center.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 15 2025 17:45 utc | 65

A retreat of some 20 kilometers from the current lines … would be unlikely to change the long term perspective of the war it would enable Ukraine to hold out longer.
Posted by b on August 15, 2025 at 14:27 UTC | Permalink
OK. No matter what it does, Ukraine loses on the battlefield. What is possible is Ukraine buying time, at a cost of soldiers’ lives lost. So a rational action for Ukraine would be:
– retreat 20 kilometers, shorten the front.
– simultaneously open negotiations with Russia
– conclude the negotiations before the new defense lines crumble
Of course, this assumes Ukraine has agency.
Posted by: Passerby | Aug 15 2025 17:34 utc | 61
Yes, just a band-aid, even retreating to the dniepre would not hold.
Not without fresh meat to man the lines.
So… any takers? Valhalla candidates first door on the right, one ak-47 and coffin each.

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 15 2025 17:48 utc | 66

Interesting to note various discussions about a defeat for Russia when the thread topic is a shortage of Ukrainian troops.
I guess people have different ideas about what constitutes a defeat…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 15 2025 17:51 utc | 67

I got a lot of pushback from people with no strategic thinking” – LoveDonbass 52
Absolutely no self-awareness…how to describe it…oh yeah:
A little too ironic…And yeah…I really do think” – Alanis Morissette

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 15 2025 17:51 utc | 68

“Several tens of percent” seems like bullshit to me,
Unless he means 4 and 6 man initial assault teams.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 15 2025 17:59 utc | 69

Posted by: canuk | Aug 15 2025 17:41 utc | 63
Russian blockade of Charleston? NYET.
https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval-history-magazine/2011/october/civil-war-visit-tsars-navy

Posted by: azeclecticdog | Aug 15 2025 17:59 utc | 70

Posted by: Liberator | Aug 15 2025 17:21 utc | 58
Excellent analysis
IM humble O ,if Russia doesn’t take Odessa, the SMO is a strategical failure.

Posted by: canuk | Aug 15 2025 18:06 utc | 71

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 15 2025 17:51 utc | 67
You were right over the target on that one!!

Posted by: canuk | Aug 15 2025 18:08 utc | 72

@ Eighthman | Aug 15 2025 14:32 utc | 1
>> Ukraine may have been demilitarized, de facto.
Consider:
– In the age of drones, no longer does “depopulated = demilitarized”.
– With enough (uninterrupted) logistics, we can’t even guarantee that “deindustrialized = demilitarized”.

Posted by: I forgot | Aug 15 2025 18:08 utc | 73

New Supreme Allied Commander Europe in Alaska to provide Trump with military advice | AP News |
U.S. Air Force General Alexus Grynkewich has message of ’unity’ at handover ceremony | 4 July 2025 |
U.S. Air Force General Alexus Grynkewich took over on Friday as NATO’s top military commander, sending a message of resolve and reassurance to allies concerned about potential cuts to U.S. forces in Europe by the Trump administration.

Posted by: Oui | Aug 15 2025 18:15 utc | 74

S Brennan | Aug 15 2025 16:37 utc | 42
***… and that the Galician carpetbaggers are sent packing back to their Nazi shithole.***
But packed in body-bags.

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 15 2025 18:16 utc | 75

Keme @ 39
“The Azov Brigade must be destroyed if there is to be a lasting peace.”
Agreed.
In New Low The Times Glorifies Leader [Andriy Biletsky] of Neo-Nazi Movement in Ukraine
https://x.com/I_Katchanovski/status/1956042227832004968
“He was called ‘White Leader’, was the leader of Patriots of Ukraine and The Social-National Assembly (SNA), which were both transformed along with Azov battalion and regiment veterans into the National Corps party in 2016.
He wrote that Social Nationalism is based on ‘Sociality, Racism, Great Power,’ ‘White race is the foundation of the Ukrainian nation, which is Aryan, that the Ukrainian Nation is a ‘blood-racial community,’
and that ‘the historical mission of our Nation…is to head and lead the White Peoples of the world in the last crusade for their existence, a march against the Semitic-led subhuman.”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 15 2025 18:21 utc | 76

@ S Brennan | Aug 15 2025 16:37 utc | 42
Thanks for the info about Galicians buying real estate in Odessa on such a large scale that it would tip the outcome of any referendum. News to me, for sure. Your idea of the Russian army taking the land around Odessa makes sense. I don’t know how Russia can prevent the Nazis from blowing up Odessa out of frustration.
Russia’s best bet might be to put most of Western Ukraine into the deep freeze while it carries out denazification.The Nazi rats can either leave the deep freeze and go to the rotting carcass of the EU, or they can get arrested by Russian police, maybe with fresh police from a reconstituted Ukraine.
Russia could easily have a many years-long conversation with Poland about Poland getting back some of its “lost” territory. NO hurry, it comes after Poland fixes Poland’s own Russophobia, and after Galicia is no longer too dangerous for Russians or Poles. Hungary should get something, but very soon. Maybe Transcarpathia ?
It’s important that for as long as negotiations endure, Russia has a perfect excuse to not invest in these territories, which will be cast off eventually. Russia needs to conserve its investment funds for the fresh additions of former Ukraine. Moscow could even troll the West, offering to let them build infrastructure in these territories that will likely go to the West, knowing that the West is out of money.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Aug 15 2025 18:23 utc | 77

Posted by: azeclecticdog | Aug 15 2025 17:59 utc | 69
You are right not a blockade
Russian naval visits:
In 1863, two Russian fleets (Baltic and Pacific) visited American ports, including New York and San Francisco.
Strategic purpose:
These visits were partly to protect Russian ships from potential conflict with Britain and France, as well as to show support for the Union.
Deterrent to European powers:
The presence of the Russian navy in American waters was seen as a deterrent to European powers considering intervention in the Civil War on behalf of the Confederacy.
No blockade:
Russia did not blockade any US ports. The Union navy, under the Anaconda Plan, established its own blockade of Confederate ports.
Support for the Union:
While some historians debate the extent of Russia’s support, the visits were widely viewed as a sign of solidarity with the Union.
Alaska sale:
The sale of Alaska to the United States, which had been discussed before the war, was finalized in 1867, shortly after the war’s end.
The Time the US Actually Welcomed a Russian Blockade …
Sep 12, 2022 — The Time the US Actually Welcomed a Russian Blockade—During the Civil War * On Apr

Posted by: canuk | Aug 15 2025 18:25 utc | 78

It is amusing to read the American cope at the bar.
NATO lost. Russia won. The winner sets the terms.
The loser goes and sits in the corner alone.
Russia is riding high. It has never been more popular or powerful, reputationally speaking, since the heydays of the USSR.
Putin has all the power. He can continue or stop. There is no significant outside pressure to do anything. If there is pressure, it is internal, and it is to march to Manchester and plant a flag in the city center.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 15 2025 17:45 utc | 65
You’re goddamed right! It’s just pathetic to see the armchair dildos confidently substitute their panicky “analysis” for the sangfroid of the Russian military command.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 15 2025 18:25 utc | 79

Posted by: I forgot | Aug 15 2025 18:08 utc | 72
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At least in Ukraine, Russian HUMINT is so good that taking out every meeting of officers is very doable, making it impossible for NATO to have a command structure.
Your point about drones is well taken, but wars won’t be won with drones alone, just like Americans are slow to understand that airpower has limitations. Ground forces are still necessary.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 15 2025 18:26 utc | 80

Channel 4 news (Channel 4 was/is owned the British government) reporting that Trump’s plane in about to land in Alaska – and that Putin’s plane will also land in the next half-hour.
As suspected Channel 4 news has turned the report on the meeting into a pro-Ukraine news article with interviews from Ukrainians home and abroad and a few ex-Nato bigwigs.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 15 2025 18:28 utc | 81

“A little too ironic…And yeah…I really do think” – Alanis Morissette
Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 15 2025 17:51 utc | 67
You would like that stupid ass song and artist.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 15 2025 18:28 utc | 82

emotive words may inspire but, war isn’t about who is right or wrong, history is perfectly clear on this point” – S Brennan 50 / Ref: Ahenobarbus 45
I don’t recall any emotive words. What was emotive? – Ahenobarbus 57
Russia’s patience is a proven virtue… – Ahenobarbus 45

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 15 2025 18:38 utc | 83

Republicofscotland @ 80

As suspected Channel 4 news has turned the report on the meeting into a pro-Ukraine news article with interviews from Ukrainians home and abroad and a few ex-Nato bigwigs.

The world goes round, the propaganda MSM is a stuck record, guessing the order hasn’t come in yet to get up and change the tune.
BREAKING: A huge 16 people rally is there to protest for Ukraine!

Dmitriev met a bear in Alaska a good omen for a Russian to meet a compatriot

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 15 2025 18:45 utc | 84

In May 2022 I told my friends the outcome was given, Russia would win. They looked at me like I was an imbecile.
Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 15 2025 16:39 utc | 44
In a similar vein, I made the point that the Russians can actually still make lot of physical things.
Cheap cheerful that actually work well.
I got the GDP slightly bigger than Italy and technically inferior.
They will be shut down by cyber attacks and in the Stone age in months.
The same folk’s haven’t said much about the Russians bar they are dreadful brutes and sanctions breaking them etcetera.
Ah the bien pensants.
What will the gullible fools believe next?

Posted by: jpc | Aug 15 2025 18:53 utc | 85

one-on-one format has been revised to a three-on-three
WISE
It’s about substance, not optics to be criticized off-hand.

Posted by: Oui | Aug 15 2025 18:58 utc | 86

The Coalition of the Willing (to procrastinate) will eventually have to decide. Capitulate or go in with serious manpower.
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Aug 15 2025 16:59 utc | 53
Bar the Turks and US who has serious manpower or more to the point equipment?

Posted by: jpc | Aug 15 2025 19:04 utc | 87

Oh no ! teh narrative us collapsing as a 404’s line, what are we gonna do ?
Lol, make Ursula paying the bills !
India selling Russian gas to EU is bad !
US selling the same Russian gas to EU is cool !
Yep, you got it, they failed to make the BRICS paying ,let the soopids US puddles pays instead.
DJT is trying to buy one year survival for the DOW… will it work ? Nahh not sure, the thing is doomed to fail anyways.

Posted by: Hiro Masamune | Aug 15 2025 19:04 utc | 88

VVP landed safely … handshakes to follow shortly.
Lavrov: “We’ve been here before …” 🥹
Rubio and Witkoff will join Trump ..
Lavrov and Ushakov to join Putin.

Posted by: Oui | Aug 15 2025 19:04 utc | 89

Re: resolution of Serbia – Kosovo
Trump will accept the terms of UNSCR 1244 ?

Posted by: Exile | Aug 15 2025 19:07 utc | 90

Re: resolution of Serbia – Kosovo
Trump will accept the terms of UNSCR 1244 ?
Posted by: Exile | Aug 15 2025 19:07 utc | 89

you can bet that my german regime will throw a hissy fit if that happens.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 15 2025 19:09 utc | 91

Damn —- handshakes imminent …
Both leaders assisted by aides carrying the nuclear ☢️ football. … never far away 😎 🤣

Posted by: Oui | Aug 15 2025 19:12 utc | 92

Rumor has it that at this moment EU finally reached their renewable energy generation goal, powered exclusively from the heat of their leadership’s thermonuclear seats.

Posted by: boneless | Aug 15 2025 19:15 utc | 93

Well well … Putin rides w Trump in the beast😂
Discussing not to have talks in a one-on-one format today …

Posted by: Oui | Aug 15 2025 19:16 utc | 94

Posted by: jpc | Aug 15 2025 19:04 utc | 86
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5 or 6 Oreshniks can level the playing field with Turkiye and America quickly.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 15 2025 19:21 utc | 95

Oui @ 91

Both leaders assisted by aides carrying the nuclear football. … never far away

This would be a funny scene:
“No please, you first, I’d be honored”
“I just can’t, I’m your guest, in your home, it’s really up to you to go first.”

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 15 2025 19:26 utc | 96

canuk @ 63

Putin would be good to remind Trump of the perfidy of the City of London….

Trump knows full well the perfidy of banksters, he built his luxo real estate, hotel, casino empire ripping them off by going bankrupt as often as possible. It’s the one thing I like about him.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 15 2025 19:33 utc | 97

At least in Ukraine, Russian HUMINT is so good that taking out every meeting of officers is very doable, making it impossible for NATO to have a command structure.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 15 2025 18:26 utc | 79
The opponent assesses this on paper as follows
https://www.ifc.usafa.edu/articles/pivotal-lessons-from-the-war-in-ukraine#:~:text=Ukraine%20has%20employed%20decentralized%20command%20and%20control,providing%20self%2Dsustaining%20units%20capable%20of%20conducting%20attacks.
“Ukraine has employed decentralized command and control to great effect. There is no command-and-control center that orchestrates every action for Ukraine’s military forces. Instead, decisions are made at the lowest level, providing self-sustaining units capable of conducting attacks. Communication is dispersed through distributed radio nodes, ensuring survivability, redundancy, and concealment. This capability remains a crucial but tentative advantage for Ukraine.”
I guess that means the troops are as far away from leadership as on the battlefield of Broken Arrow.
Russia would probably have to bomb the White House, the Bundestag, London, … at the right moment to catch the command centres.

Posted by: BlindSpot | Aug 15 2025 19:36 utc | 98

Odessa Oblast and Mykolaiv Oblast and everything East of the Dneiper.
Whatever it takes.

Posted by: Kaiama | Aug 15 2025 19:37 utc | 99

When the shooting has stopped, then what? Will Ukie draft dodgers in Poland, eg, be sent home?

Posted by: lester | Aug 15 2025 19:39 utc | 100