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August 10, 2025
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2025-179

Last week's posts on Moon of Alabama:


Other issues:

Europe:

Zionism:

Lebanon:

NGOs:

> These NGOs—nongovernmental organizations—and their supporters see themselves as representing “civil society,” a phrase often conflated with society as a whole that in practice means the consensus of upper-middle-class liberal opinion. Amnesty International is a pillar of civil society. The National Rifle Association isn’t. <

Russiagate:

Zeitgeist:

Statistics:

Epstein:

Use as open (not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine) thread …

Comments

The collective shape of the new econ policies is “more guns, less butter”.
The regime is reducing private purchasing power, of natostan serfs and oligarchs alike, so that the money the regime itself exponentially prints and spends for its own purposes, mainly weapons, retains more of its value in the marketplace. The regime is crowding out private spending (“butter”) for guns.
The regime could’ve raised income taxes, instead. But that would’ve hurt the wealthy more.

Posted by: I forgot | Aug 10 2025 12:51 utc | 1

It’s almost a meta-delusion level: everyone knows the foundations are cracking, but they also believe they can run out the door before the building collapses. And that belief itself keeps the party going — until it doesn’t.
Will next Friday in Alaska make anything better anywhere for anyone? I doubt it.

Posted by: Lindsay | Aug 10 2025 12:53 utc | 2

Must see, Baab is asking the real questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWVUVlYG-tY

Posted by: Tom | Aug 10 2025 12:55 utc | 3

10 year as of Fridsay close:
4.28% USA
1.70% PRC

Posted by: Exile | Aug 10 2025 13:11 utc | 4

Pale faced forked tongue

‘Chinese are setting debt traps in Africa, they are the new colonisers’

Reality…
In Africa and beyond,
Chinese companies have been bleeding monies , tens of thousands personnels killed due to ‘terrorists’ attacks and regime change.
Exhibit A
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Mali backgrounder…
2012
MALI_ US BEHIND MILITARY COUP Mali coup led by US-trained captain
AFRICOM’s goal is to eliminate China and other countries influence in the region mali
America Invades Africa The Resource War and the Conquest of Mali By Timothy Alexander Guzman « William Bowles.info
Mali
Create the crises and offer the remedy africom
mali AFRICOM’s goal is to eliminate China
2013
Land Destroyer [Tony Catalucci]
By Design French Mali Invasion Spills into Algeria
US AFRICOM Operation Underway in Mali_ “Keeping China out of Africa”_ Global Research
Ostensibly a French op, but no military venture can possibly succeed without U.S. approval, indeed participation mali
The 4th Media » Mali US AFRICOM Operates To KEEP CHINA out of AFRICA US Colonization of The WHOLE AFRICA CONTINUES!!!
Pentagon’s Hand Behind French Intervention in Mali _ Global Research TV
2014
101st Airborne Division to Liberia, uk in Sierra Leone. The French are already in Mali and Senegal. ebola
Behind the scenes US involved in Mali since 911 — RT USA
3 Chinese Business Executives Killed in Mali Attack – The New York Times
Six Russians Among Killed in al Qaeda Mali Terror
2015
How Washington helped foster the Islamist uprising in Mali — New Internationalist
Terror in Mali An Attack on China and Russia One Third of the Victims were Russians and Chinese _
Will the Mali attack be used to justify further French and American interventionism in Africa — Puppet Masters — Sott_net
Terror in Mali An Attack on China and Russia – ‘Islamic’ terrorists in N Africa are hitting a large number of Chinese backed projects
mali, U.S. troops on scene of two West African hotel attacks may have been involved in African Gladio operation _ Intrepid Report_com
2016
mali, Mastermind of The Bamako Terror Attack Mokhtar Belmokhtar A CIA Sponsored “Intelligence Asset” , in response to France’s 2013 military intervention in Mali,
mali, The same military that “trains” the terrorists also trains the “anti-terrorists
mali, Tripoli Brigade—were trained in secret for two months by US Special Forces
2017
mali, al-Qaeda , very suspicious operation and the timing of its activities
2018
All the proxy wars waged by Africom in Congo, Sudan, Central African Republic, Mali also target China’s presence in Africa
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Latest 8-2025
Escalating Attacks on Chinese enterprises and personnels .
Chinese embassy issue urgent notice ,,,…
Chinese nationals suspend all mining operations, register with embassy , evacuate immediately. !!!

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Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2025 13:12 utc | 5

Washington Wired for War: Why Syria Could Spell World Catastrophe
By Finian Cunningham
Global Research, August 01, 2012
1 August 2012
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‘US-led military adventures in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and across sub-Saharan Africa are aimed at thwarting China’s economic expansion, especially because Chinese partnerships have been welcomed in such countries. The NATO-induced regime change last year in Libya alone is reckoned to have cost China billions of dollars in oil and infrastructure investments. The same US game plan is unfolding covertly in Syria and Iran, with the Western powers and their Arab, Turk and Israeli allies waging a criminal war of state-sponsored terrorism and destabilisation.’

Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2025 13:32 utc | 7

On the selection of Anchorage as a venue for the meeting
In 2008 when Zionist ultra John McCain ran against B Obama for the presidency, he selected Sarah Palin as his running mate. She was the Governor of Alaska. A cruise ship full Neo-con bigwigs and other assorted Republican power brokers made the journey to Alaska, which is an established cruise destination for Conservative groups long prior to 2008. It is hard to imagine protests in Anchorage or indeed any disturbance there
Sarah Palin was a sop to the grassroots, who considered her “one of them”. As the McCain campaign sputtered to defeat, Palin realised the power of social media could make a president – she wasn’t the only one. She posted on social media that “I can talk to each and everyone of you”. William Kristol and several other opinion- formers had made the journey to Alaska, from the same crew of neo-cons who engineered “the Tea Party”, Trump I and now Trump II. They needed someone who could address “the ordinary voter”
So Trump II is just the latest iteration of a neocon operation that has roots in finding a candidate who can communicate with “the great unwashed” and the development and maturation of social media algorithms.
All hail the Zion Don

Posted by: will moon | Aug 10 2025 13:32 utc | 8

This strikes me as significant:
https://www.wsj.com/world/china/china-detains-senior-diplomat-who-aided-u-s-relations-ca110bfc

Liu Jianchao, a senior Chinese diplomat widely seen as a potential foreign minister, has been taken away by authorities for questioning, according to people familiar with the matter.

Sounds like he was getting too westernized for the Chinese liking.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 10 2025 13:41 utc | 9

Trump Tariffs, links at top post.
Tariffs, import duties, taxes, are traditionally meant to protect ‘own national’ production, workers, conventional ways and means of ‘doing’ things, >> stability.
To squash competition as well, yes, in a general sense. …One could argue about an ideal ‘economic’ model forever.
DT is using tariffs as sanctions, as trade barriers, as a bullying tactic, as punishment, as a tool of disruption, as a display of power, as a bargaining tool, etc.
Too much functionality for the lowly TARIFFS. Why? Because he can for now, because it is one of the means at his disposal. (There is at least one challenge in the Courts.)
DT is trapped between contradictory principles / aims.
Protectionism (augmenting well paying jobs for US ppl) vs. Globalism (cheap labor..)
US hegemony vs. ‘making deals’ that are win-win, business style, which implies free trade, say, zero tariffs and the like vs ..helping poor ppl in the US.
Deploying ‘milit’ power to force others to capitulate vs. supporting peace making moves, => War contra Peace, how does that work out?
One glaring ex. of contradictions, he is imposing on the US what the US (plus vassals) Punitive Sanctions on Russia accomplished!
Russia adapted and substituted imports, stimulating ‘home’ industry, manufacture, farming, etc. without much difficulty.
Imho the self-imposed ‘sanctions’ (import tariffs) on the US won’t be as efficient… 🙂

Posted by: Noirette | Aug 10 2025 14:20 utc | 10

Linked by our host from the Washington Bezos Post: “CIA officials worried that the release of a House report on 2016 Russian election meddling could reveal top-secret spying techniques and sources…”
Just in case anyone harbored any remaining doubts about whether that Mockingbird tabloid’s allegiance was to the spook community or the American people, doubt no more.
And what were these “top-secret spying techniques and sources”? The Bezos Post couldn’t find anything, but I can tell you what was so sensitive: The CIA just makes shit up. They lie nonstop. And the Washington Bezos Post knowingly amplifies those lies.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 10 2025 14:23 utc | 11

Hillary Clinton.

“This is going to be a very serious, ongoing threat because if you look at the size of northern Mali, if you look at the topography — it’s not only desert, it’s caves,”
“Sounds reminiscent. We are in for a struggle. But it is a necessary struggle. We cannot permit northern Mali to become a safe haven.

We cannot permit northern Mali to become a safe haven for Chinese business
FIFY

the very notion of al-Qaeda in Mali posing a threat to the West is predicated on the oft-repeated safe haven refrain. That is, the belief that without foreign intervention al-Qaeda will use northern Mali as a staging ground to launch attacks within Western countries.
“But,is there any real evidence that the extremists in Mali are plotting to attack France, the United States, or anyone else?

They have been warning about ‘terrorists attacks since 911, but to my best knowledge,
no terrorists have ever targeted gringo, or westerners anywhere in the world !
But tens of thousands of Chinese have been killed by terrarists from Africa to Apak, the Stans, SEA and beyond.

is it possible that intervention in Mali might actually focus the extremists’ attention on the intervenors, instead of the central government?”

Except the terrarists did neither.
IN a 2015 attack , terrarists cornered a big group of tourists in Mali hotel, they ignored a juicy bunch of gringo , went straight for the Chinese/Russians and executed them in cold blood, !

Johnnie Carson, U.S. assistant secretary for African Affairs,
China is a “very aggressive and pernicious economic competitor with no morals.”

Say who ?
The Economic HIt man.
The Master Terrorist.
Some fucking cheek !
https://www.globalresearch.ca/hidden-agenda-behind-americas-war-on-africa-containing-china-by-fighting-al-qaeda/5320939

Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2025 14:29 utc | 12

Mali Returns to Turmoil! China, Russia, and the West Jockey …
YouTube · Unique Facts
86K+ views · 6 days ago
0:53
The Chinese Embassy ordered a mass evacuation. The Malian military now relies on Chinese-made defense equipment, while Ukraine surprisingly admitted its …
A Turbulent Week for China-Africa Media Narratives

Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2025 14:39 utc | 13

thanks for the links b.. the last one on whitney webb is fairly titillating..
@ Tom | Aug 10 2025 12:55 utc | 3 – thanks for the link.. will check it out..
@ juliania
from the previous moa week in review i posted on thursday night..
“i was wondering earlier today while reading a book by leo tolstoy called ‘the kingdom of god is within you’ if you had read this book… the reason i say this is leo tolstoy had some very interesting things to say in this book.. now i am only 50 pages into it, but i am thinking you would really benefit from reading it.. the moa poster george recommended this book and i took him up on it.. i am glad i did..
there is a brief overview in this wikipedia page on the book if you are interested..
The Kingdom of God Is Within You
Posted by: james | Aug 8 2025 3:38 utc | 222”

Posted by: james | Aug 10 2025 14:41 utc | 14

Old timers please skip...
Belgian MP Laurent Louis stands against war in Mali and exposes the international neo-colonial plot
https://tinyurl.com/2p9jdbh8
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Why do terrarists always bark up the wrong tree ?
https://tinyurl.com/2bxtpchk

Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2025 14:54 utc | 15

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 10 2025 14:23 utc | 10
Just in case anyone harbored any remaining doubts about whether that Mockingbird tabloid’s allegiance was to the spook community or the American people, doubt no more
Yes, and just about everyone else’s allegiance as well.
Poor Tulsi.

Posted by: john | Aug 10 2025 15:05 utc | 16

Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2025 14:54 utc | 14
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Mali, Azerbaijan, Kaliningrad, the Imperial beast is thrashing about.
Death rattle shakes.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 10 2025 15:07 utc | 17

Michael Tracey’s approach to Whitney Webb (and, also BLM) seems very similar to Holocaust Denial. Find some fact that “should” be there, and show it isn’t.
Of course there’s going to be no DOJ information about spying, and even getting info on informants isn’t going to be easy.
Meanwhile, everyone knows Epstein was an FBI informant about something. How could he be an informant about his own operations? Everyone also can see that how he acquired his billions looks very fishy.

Posted by: Charles Peterson | Aug 10 2025 15:08 utc | 18

Posted by: Charles Peterson | Aug 10 2025 15:08 utc | 17
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Going back to 2016, Tracey always glowed IMO.
I have yet to see him produce one piece of heroic journalism.
Another construct like Tim Pool?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 10 2025 15:23 utc | 19

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 10 2025 15:07 utc | 16
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Angola Riots Break Out, Chinese …
YouTube · China Undercover
910+ views
China in Chaos: Angola Riots Break Out, Chinese Nationals Caught, Businesses Looted. … Over 30 Dead, Hundreds Attacked – China’s Africa Presence Faces Its …
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I presume USA guilty until proven innocent

Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2025 15:29 utc | 20

For multiple posters on the root causes of Mali conflict(s)…
There are also conflicts with miners in Mali. Barrick is the world’s second largest gold miner and is in serious conflict with the government there. Barrick is also a core holding of many western investment funds and private portfolios
https://www.barrick.com/English/news/news-details/2025/barrick-opposes-mali-government-attempt-to-take-over-the-day-to-day-operations-at-loulo-gounkoto/default.aspx

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Aug 10 2025 15:30 utc | 21

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Aug 10 2025 15:30 utc | 20
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Its open secret ‘terrarists’ attacks on Chinese biz and personnels are engineered BY FUKUSA

Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2025 15:38 utc | 22

Safety advisory for Chinese citizens after attacks in Tasmania
chinadailyhk
https://www.chinadailyhk.com › article
1 day ago — The consulate said a Chinese student was recently assaulted by a group of minors in a shopping center in Hobart’s city center for no reason.
tHE ATTACK was brutal, Chinese student also didnt make it

Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2025 15:41 utc | 23

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Aug 10 2025 15:30 utc | 20
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See the backgrounders on Mali
For example, the 2015 hotel massacre of
Chinese/Russian rail executives

Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2025 15:46 utc | 24

Pak Taliban TTP slain Chinese tourists to avenge their bro killed by gringo drones.
Silly terrarists barking up the wrong tree…..again !
https://www.pakistankakhudahafiz.com/10-tourist-killed-ttp-miscreance-exposed/
I posted multiple times before,
PAK TTP is CIA created death squads targeting Chinese.

Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2025 16:00 utc | 25

@ denk | Aug 10 2025 15:41 utc | 22,
From the same source with a direct link to the report about Chinese Consular advisory for Chinese in Tasmania, AU.

The consulate said a Chinese student was recently assaulted by a group of minors in a shopping center in Hobart’s city center for no reason. The student was later taken to hospital with serious injuries.

The brutal attack did occur in Australia. The Chinese student did have serious injuries from the attack. Fortunately, his condition has been stabilized and is recovering at a hospital now.

Posted by: LuRenJia | Aug 10 2025 16:01 utc | 26

FUKUSA aka AUKUS have been warning their citizens about terrarists threat since 911.
I do NOT recall any gringo or westerners being targeted ever.
Said terrarists seem to go after Chinese exclusively , even tho it’s FUKUSA who slaughtered millions of their bro worldwide.
You can make this shit up !

Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2025 16:08 utc | 27

Posted by: LuRenJia | Aug 10 2025 16:01 utc | 26
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This wouldnt be the first nor the last.
Been going on in anglophone since the days of Chinese Exclusion Act.
Very often the perp were ‘minors’ who got away scot free.
Besides such racist hate crimes,
Its open secret CIA/MI6 orchestrated thousands of ‘terrarist attacks’ on Chinese biz and personnel worldwide.

Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2025 16:15 utc | 28

Thanks b for linking those two Substack articles by Aurelien, both of them are absolute gems, well worth the reading time; time and again I found myself nodding my head at various points.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 10 2025 16:24 utc | 29

All polls in past two decades show that anglophone score the highest sinophobia index, averaging 80%
I wouldnt be surprised those young thugs who almost killed the Chinese student were fed the ‘coming Chinese invasion’ BS by their parents and the TV 24×7 !
But those are kid stuff compared to the terrarists masters in Washington/LOndon/Canberra.

Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2025 16:31 utc | 30

Guess who scores the highest ?
The bloody Swede !
forchrissake, WTF have the Chinese ever done to those gawd damned viking ?

Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2025 16:53 utc | 31

brian berletic has a very pessimistic view on the usa’s agenda with regard to the ukraine conflict, and i can’t disagree with him either… for anyone interested, he is being interviewed by glenn diesen and you can listen for yourself, if interested… from 6 hours ago..
Brian Berletic: Is the U.S. Setting a Trap for Russia in Alaska?

Posted by: james | Aug 10 2025 17:35 utc | 32

it is the 80th anniversary of the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki – aug 6th and 9th…
it appears instead of anyone learning from these horrific events, we are moving towards repeating them.. the leading powers – usa and russia, have not resolved this conflict and are dropping agreements previously made.. what does that tell you about the state of affairs on planet earth in 2025?? one can forget about a lot of high minded ideals that many profess to, or the idea that ‘our nation is a christian nation’ or anything of the sort.. no.. we are increasingly at the disposal of the financial engineers for world dominance and nothing has changed in 80 or 150 years for that matter..

Posted by: james | Aug 10 2025 17:43 utc | 33

it is the 80th anniversary of the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki – aug 6th and 9th…
it appears instead of anyone learning from these horrific events, we are moving towards repeating them.. the leading powers – usa and russia, have not resolved this conflict and are dropping agreements previously made.. what does that tell you about the state of affairs on planet earth in 2025?? one can forget about a lot of high minded ideals that many profess to, or the idea that ‘our nation is a christian nation’ or anything of the sort.. no.. we are increasingly at the disposal of the financial engineers for world dominance and nothing has changed in 80 or 150 years for that matter..
Posted by: james | Aug 10 2025 17:43 utc | 33
Millions have learned from this atrocity really. They are simply divided and powerless. Most of the world really does have good sense. It’s actually a vanishingly small group in power in the west that are violently insane.
How can humanity rid themselves of this little group of powerful, violent perverts, that is the question!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 10 2025 18:19 utc | 34

MOATS with George Galloway: The Summit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rupSBR-NwY
“Putin v Trump/ Showdown in Alaska / Israel’s Gaza plan/”
With Prof Mohammad Marandi. Recommended.

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 10 2025 18:39 utc | 35

On the issue of economic statistics, the link to Noema at least leads to something genuinely relevant to a real-world analysis.
The other links are shallow partisan hack jobs. Firing everybody for lying for the Democrats is likely not true, but it wouldn’t solve the problems anyhow. It would just provide another weaponized servant for Trump. The problem of falsifying statistics has not been a problem in the sense that it has been policy. For example, the quarterly GDP reports are routinely annualized, multiplied by four. The national budget is usually reported for ten year periods. Massive increases or cuts in the next year’s budget can be hidden in fictional revenues and spending in later years of the budget. Both these falsifications are practically mandatory.
That economic statistics can be uncertain to a degree that undermines the empirical foundations of many economic theories has been known for decades. Oskar Morgenstern (known for collaborating with John von Neumann, by the way, ) in 1950 published On the Accuracy of Economic Observations. The second edition is available online. https://archive.org/details/onaccuracyofecon0000morg Those determined to find dastardly Democrats lying to hurt god Trump will no doubt find their ragebait. But the problem of economic statistics and the theory underlying them are genuinely relevant to all economies. And they are relevant to economic planning as well. In my opinion Noema is inadvertently calling, despite themselves, Marxist economic theory.
Personally I wouldn’t pay a sub for Wall Street Journal. If you want to find the central organ of the PMC, it’s most likely the WSJ, not the CIA. At least, that’s the case for people who remember that the M in PMC is supoosed to stand for managers, as in managers of giant corporation, financial funds and so on. You know, the readers of the WSJ. (Financial Times and the Economist may be competitors for the title of journal of record.) Wall Street is the Swamp, so I don’t think its journal of record is a reliable source.
As to NGOs…I’m so old I remember when the term was QUANGO, quasi-nongovernmental organizations. As to this…

These NGOs—nongovernmental organizations—and their supporters see themselves as representing “civil society,” a phrase often conflated with society as a whole that in practice means the consensus of upper-middle-class liberal opinion. Amnesty International is a pillar of civil society. The National Rifle Association isn’t.

Not sure who this quote is from, but the NRA is in fact a pillar of so-called civil society. Whoever said this is merely whining about how somebody dislikes them, doesn’t flatter them. The NRA, and another similar qroup, the Federalist Society, are in fact very powerful. The notion they are oppressed because somebody thinks they are morally backwaord and politically reactionary doesn’t change that. If we want to talk NGOs/QUANGOs, we want to talk funding. All NGos receive private funding (often from foundations, but those are still private. Their tax privileges are precisely that, privileges.) These privileges are functionally granted to the wealthy as a way to shelter estates from taxes. Although the rich have to put some of their money into some public good, they get to choose what counts as good, and get applauded for it too. There was once a time when conservatives advocated abolishing these privilege because the wealthy—correctly by the way—believed that certain socially liberal policies, such as desegregation, were ultimately beneficial for them, if only in suppressing revolutionary agitation by reform. The discovery that votes for Negroes didn’t end the Republic silenced those calls, as I remember.
What makes them QUANGOs is that they also received government funding plus sometimes the tax privileges awarded to the wealthy. It is now customary to omit the Quasi for some reason. The idea that NGOs are objectionable nowadays seems to depend upon some notion that social liberalism is a direct political assault on tin god Trump. It is not. When the Internationa Republican Institute (that’s how I remember the names behind the IRI acronym,) a branch of National Endowment for Democracy, puts some money into financing a seminar where there was some support for transgender rights in Bangla Desh, they are doing that because their fundamental mandate is to find support for the US ultimate goals. They will use whatever bait they can. It does not mean that NED has been subverted by the globalist ideology to attack MAGA. (And yes, I’ve forgotten the source but the event in Bangla Desh was reported.)
Now the general case is that NGOs (still QUANGOS in my judgment) are funded by private interests and by a government, that is fundamentally yet another example of the rich getting benefits for their goals. If USAID operates a giant dumping operation for US farm surpluses, and tries to get credit for philanthropy, this is not a rip off of the rich. People who operate under the delusion that they are oppressed by high taxes, rather than low wages, can rage against the concept of foreing aid to the filthy foreigners, but that doesn’t mean they are fighting the Deep State. It just means they are both mean and stupid.
As to NGOs, my suggestion is that we the people use the RICO acts against the Federalist Society.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 10 2025 19:10 utc | 36

“Lindsay” ( Aug 10 2025 12:53 utc | 2 ):
Imo likely everything will be much worse (and the leaves are still green).
If confusion and delusion truly reigns supreme from top to bottom and then back up again on both sides and among insiders and onlookers then it will not take much to make everything much worse nearly instantly. I’m not seeing any displays of clearheaded realism anywhere from anyone except possibly a few people on the internet (would you and I qualify? I wouldn’t, to me there’s nothing that isn’t confusing and alarming about all of this and everything else).
Alaska sounds as horrible a choice to me as if they had decided to meet in the southeastern Russian wilderness almost but not quite in the vicinity of China.
And of course they’re both obviously going to have to fly in. Retards everywhere, especially in the armed forces and intelligence agencies. Taking far too much for granted.
Environmental isolation, the equivalent of mobsters meeting under a bridge at midnight. Great when it works, disaster when it doesn’t.
Or is it a setup? Are they locked in or the rest of the world locked out? That’s just a matter of perspective…
They would all be safer in Gaza.
So, is it the case that neither side is actually listening to the other side (and haven’t for years now, not only the US but Russia too) but are still both overjoyed and expectant because they believe some kind of agreement is taking place?
If they’re wrong it’s not going to be pretty is it?
Part of me is kind of fine with that; let this shit end, we failed. The rest of me still wants everything turned around, to never give up.
Let’s see what happens, if we can.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Aug 10 2025 19:34 utc | 37

As to NGOs, my suggestion is that we the people use the RICO acts against the Federalist Society.
Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 10 2025 19:10 utc | 36
The federalist society? Did you read the articles posted? You think Republicans are the major factor in the Imperialist NGO scam? The Dems don’t get involved in all that, right?
Boy, Steve. I’ve never seen someone so shit all stupid as you. 😁

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 10 2025 20:14 utc | 38

If you hang out with fascists long enough, you risk ending up a fascist yourself.
Part 1/6
This is not some intervention or a plea for change, as MoA is too far gone. But I do see the occasional person with Chinese heritage who stumble across MoA (let’s be honest, what are the chances a non-Chinese person would bring up Detective Chinatown 1900), and I want to let them know that even English spaces with supposedly non-mainstream/fringe politics like MoA are irredeemably fascist, so they should limit the time they spend here. Furthermore, I’m warning them that waves of fascist violence will only worsen as capitalists rely on fascism to resolve the contradictions of capitalism. If these people are located in the West: make escape plans while you still can, even those of you who have put down roots in the West.
Run!
If you don’t believe that associating with fascists eventually corrupts you, allow me to show you the slow downfall of MoA regulars Arch Bungle and Tom_Q_Collins. Both have embodied the “you’ve got to give it to Hitler” joke, except that they aren’t joking. And no, you do not actually have to give it to Hitler under any circumstances.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Aug 10 2025 20:24 utc | 39

Part 2/6
Arch Bungle’s positions on most issues have been good. But as the Gazan genocide progressed, he has steadily become more reactionary. I have been irked by his constant advocacy for interventionism from third parties when imperial citizens would be far, far more effective in taking down the system from within. He along with fnord, Ahenobarbus and other pretend “leftists” on MoA all call for a global uprising, even for places like China, Vietnam, NK and Cuba that are already communist, because this helps excuse the inaction of “leftists” in the imperial core and their responsibility as the prime actors in the genocide.
This sentiment is most clearly expressed here:

The paralysis of most Arab (and Western) populations (barring Yemen) is a testament to the power of totalitarian control over populations.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 10 2025 1:49 utc | 227

For the record, I don’t fully blame the Arab nations either. Let me use an analogy. Few humans who have yet to be attacked (the vassal Arab nations) would willingly intervene when they see a large pack of wolves (America) maul a human being (Palestine). Members of the wolf pack who share in the spoils of the bloody feast (the imperial core citizens) have a far better chance of ousting the pack’s leader and ending the attack, if those wolves so choose.
I’m not too bothered by attempts by Americans (wannabe or otherwise) to deflect responsibility because I’m already used to the old one-two “left”-right punch style of imperial belligerence. The Empire’s “left”-wing will accuse China of being soulless human rights violators, while its right-wing will accuse China of undermining its interests or working with its enemies. It’s alright, war with China is inevitable anyway. But Arch Bungle crossed the line when he unambiguously expressed sympathy for Hitler.

Personally I think Adolf Hitler was the problem.
If the man had followed through on his intentions, had the courage of his convictions, he’d have finished the Holocaust of the Jews and Palestine would be peaceful today.
Always finish the job.
Else the job will finish you.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 8 2025 14:21 utc | 116

The Zionist’s mindset towards the Palestinian problem is the same as Hitler’s mindset towards the Jewish problem, and this mindset is shared by European settlers when confronted with the Native American problem. “You’ve got to give it to Hitler” is perpetuating Manifest Destiny, which is the cause of all this suffering in the first place.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Aug 10 2025 20:27 utc | 40

Part 3/6
Tom_Q_Collins, like Arch Bungle, had good takes on many issues. He recently shared a video on how Britain engineered the Irish famine, so I thought he still got his head on straight.
I was initially surprised when Tom_Q_Collins was receptive towards hearing out the white supremacist Nick Fuentes’s opinions just because Fuentes recently broke rank with Trump, but on reflection, I should have known it was an inevitability.
Nick Fuentes has mocked America’s witch hunt over the alleged Chinese spy balloon and celebrated China’s hypersonic missile flight tests. So what? Nick Fuentes has some positive things to say about China, but so do William Gruff and c1ue, and I certainly don’t consider those barflies to be friends of China.
Nick Fuentes, like William Gruff and c1ue, are opportunistically latching onto China so that they can serve up China as a shining example of what a fascist society can achieve when in reality China is communist and therefore inherently anti-fascist. Neither William Gruff and c1ue would admit that they’re fascist, not yet anyway, so they’re either pretending to be a Marxist or a moderate nationalist (like the “moderate rebels” in Syria) to muddy the waters, just like Nick Fuentes is not yet ready to call himself a fascist yet. This is why I do my utmost to gatekeep support for China. Some months back, I’ve already noticed a troubling development where some people on MoA and X/Twitter calling China fascist not as a condemnation, but as commendation so as to claim China’s achievements for fascism.
Nick Fuentes is a Holocaust denier. This is a well-documented and indefensible position of his.
What truly, absolutely infuriates me about Nick Fuentes is that he suggested that China should take over New York City and have Chinese soldiers start murdering black people en masse for acting uppity (video evidence). This is an insult to the PLA. His exact words: “What if we had Chinese soldiers on every corner and if Black person started spazzing out, they took a sword out and cut his hands off and then they cut his head off. What if that happened? That would be awesome!” His hatred of black people reminds me of William Gruff.
The People’s Liberation Army is called the People’s Liberation Army because they’re not made up of a bunch of imperial stormtroopers. The PLA won the support of the Chinese people, which the KMT failed to do, because Mao was famously strict on discipline, specifically in exercising great restraint when dealing with civilians and meting out harsh punishments for violators. The KMT, in contrast, ran around robbing, raping and murdering, which ultimately made them lose the civil war. The spirit of serving the people is still alive today, and the PLA are always the first in line for disaster relief efforts. The PLA always had to turn away the generous gifts (like crops and livestock) of the people they rescue because the PLA are not supposed to accept gifts for simply fulfilling their duty to the people. People join the PLA not for the thrill of shooting swarthy foreigners, but because they’ve personally experienced the PLA serving the people’s need and want to continue that tradition.
So, no, Fuentes, the PLA won’t be running around and serving as fascist stormtroopers in New York City or any other place for that matter.
Are the Americans trying to set the Chinese up as the patsy after they’ve gaslit Jews and Ukrainians into being expendable blood bags to help America control the Middle East and Eastern Europe? Already Americans like S Brennan are blaming China for the Russia-Ukraine war, even though it’s clearly the encroachment of the America-led NATO, the American color revolution in Ukraine and the supply of American weapons to Ukraine that sparked and prolonged the war. So, it’s not far-fetched for me to claim that Americans wish for a black genocide in America while keeping their own hands clean and blaming the Chinese for the genocide.

fuck off with ….. feral blacks being elevated to sainthood
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 10 2025 5:06 utc | 151

“You’ve got to give it to Nick Fuentes”, a man who openly fantasizes about recreating a Gaza-style open-air prison where an occupation army has the liberty to toy with human lives, is advocating for fascism. Very telling too that NemesisCalling uttering “feral blacks” did not even make Tom_Q_Collins raise an eyebrow.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Aug 10 2025 20:34 utc | 41

Part 4/6
Before people get the wrong idea, my opposition towards Arch Bungle and Tom_Q_Collins doesn’t mean that I’ve found common ground with fascists like c1ue and canuk. I know that they’re not opposing Arch Bungle or Tom_Q_Collins with good intentions.
With c1ue, it’s simple—any who oppose his lord and savior Trump is an enemy. Fuentes’s newfound distaste for Trump is reason enough for c1ue to oppose barflies who have taken a liking Fuentes’s positions. I don’t like Trump one bit, and I have no love for Fuentes either.
With canuk, it’s a little more complicated, but the short answer is that canuk is a white supremacist who aspires to outdo both the Zionists and the Nazis but isn’t ready to openly declare himself as a fascist just yet, hence the need to performatively moralize. The barfly canuk is well-known on MoA for his deep love of Nietzsche and for his deep hatred of indigenous peoples like the Aztecs whom he believes were justified to have been brutally civilized by Europeans. Most people know that Nietzsche inspired the Nazis (canuk opposes this characterization), but fewer know that Nietzsche also inspired the Zionists (I haven’t seen canuk’s opinion, but I’m guessing that canuk would oppose Nietzsche’s association with Zionists). Furthermore, the alt-right, the progenitor of MAGA and the Trump movement, are in love with Nietzsche. Everyone knows canuk is an outspoken supporter of Trump. If you combine canuk’s opinion towards “uncivilized” indigenous peoples with Nietzsche’s predilection to find admirers among fascists such as Zionists, Nazis, MAGA and Trump, it’s trivial to see canuk for what he is. I’m not a racial supremacist of any sort, and I’m no admirer of Nietzsche.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Aug 10 2025 20:36 utc | 42

Part 5/6
To be fair to MoA, the fascist conversion pipeline phenomenon isn’t exclusive to MoA.
Fascists love to start out being reasonable. “I love the sun, who doesn’t love the sun?” Then, they show you their Sonnenrad tattoo.
Other times, the fascists claim that they’re only temporarily adopting reactionary positions to appeal to the masses, and that when they gain more and more power, they will slowly shed these positions. This is the excuse that the ACP, a supposedly communist party, uses to justify focusing their efforts on reaching out only to the most reactionary segments of Americans. This is also the excuse politicians like AOC use. I’m sure the years spent in the halls of power have made AOC more socialist, right? AOC hobnobbing with the bourgeoisie at the Met Gala with a performative Tax the Rich dress sure made a splash and made the system tremble with fear. Zohran Mamdani is the new darling Democrat “maverick” like the AOC and Bernie Sanders before him, and he’ll end up the same just like them.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Aug 10 2025 20:37 utc | 43

Part 6/6
Finally, to clear up the terminology because there are many who seek to obfuscate the true source of the problem afflicting the world, capitalism, which has evolved to its highest stage, imperialism, and is headquartered in America.
Fascism is capitalism’s attempt at temporarily handling the crises that inevitably arises from capitalism due to capitalism’s internal contradictions. To quote Samir Amin’s article The Return of Fascism in Contemporary Capitalism:

Fascism is not synonymous with an authoritarian police regime that rejects the uncertainties of parliamentary electoral democracy. Fascism is a particular political response to the challenges with which the management of capitalist society may be confronted in specific circumstances.
The diversity of societies that were the victims of fascism—both major developed capitalist societies and minor dominated capitalist societies, some connected with a victorious war, others the product of defeat—should prevent us from lumping them all together. Yet, beyond this diversity, all these fascist regimes had two characteristics in common:
(1) In the circumstances, they were all willing to manage the government and society in such a way as not to call the fundamental principles of capitalism into question, specifically private capitalist property, including that of modern monopoly capitalism. That is why I call these different forms of fascism particular ways of managing capitalism and not political forms that challenge the latter’s legitimacy, even if “capitalism” or “plutocracies” were subject to long diatribes in the rhetoric of fascist speeches. The lie that hides the true nature of these speeches appears as soon as one examines the “alternative” proposed by these various forms of fascism, which are always silent concerning the main point—private capitalist property. It remains the case that the fascist choice is not the only response to the challenges confronting the political management of a capitalist society. It is only in certain conjunctures of violent and deep crisis that the fascist solution appears to be the best one for dominant capital, or sometimes even the only possible one. The analysis must, then, focus on these crises.
(2) The fascist choice for managing a capitalist society in crisis is always based—by definition even—on the categorical rejection of “democracy.” Fascism always replaces the general principles on which the theories and practices of modern democracies are based—recognition of a diversity of opinions, recourse to electoral procedures to determine a majority, guarantee of the rights of the minority, etc.—with the opposed values of submission to the requirements of collective discipline and the authority of the supreme leader and his main agents. This reversal of values is then always accompanied by a return of backward-looking ideas, which are able to provide an apparent legitimacy to the procedures of submission that are implemented. The proclamation of the supposed necessity of returning to the (“medieval”) past, of submitting to the state religion or to some supposed characteristic of the “race” or the (ethnic) “nation” make up the panoply of ideological discourses deployed by the fascist powers.

Others try to obfuscate that capitalism is the source of the problem by claiming that a new mode of production has arisen that is completely separated from capitalism. These people lie.
Yanis Varoufakis is one such offender. Varoufakis claims that capitalism is dead and has been supplanted by “technofeudalism” because large tech corporations have such a dominance over the market that competition no longer exists and the corporations are able to extract monopoly rent. Lenin, in Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism, has actually described the monopolistic control found in Varoufakis’s “technofeudalism” as imperialism, but Lenin never severed its link to capitalism. Lenin was absolutely clear that imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism.

Free competition is the basic feature of capitalism, and of commodity production generally; monopoly is the exact opposite of free competition, but we have seen the latter being transformed into monopoly before our eyes, creating large-scale industry and forcing out small industry, replacing large-scale by still larger-scale industry, and carrying concentration of production and capital to the point where out of it has grown and is growing monopoly: cartels, syndicates and trusts, and merging with them, the capital of a dozen or so banks, which manipulate thousands of millions. At the same time the monopolies, which have grown out of free competition, do not eliminate the latter, but exist above it and alongside it, and thereby give rise to a number of very acute, intense antagonisms, frictions and conflicts. Monopoly is the transition from capitalism to a higher system.
If it were necessary to give the briefest possible definition of imperialism we should have to say that imperialism is the monopoly stage of capitalism. Such a definition would include what is most important, for, on the one hand, finance capital is the bank capital of a few very big monopolist banks, merged with the capital of the monopolist associations of industrialists; and, on the other hand, the division of the world is the transition from a colonial policy which has extended without hindrance to territories unseized by any capitalist power, to a colonial policy of monopolist possession of the territory of the world, which has been completely divided up.

The same goes for people claiming that “corporatism” is not capitalism. They define corporatism as corporations exerting overwhelming influence over the government. Corporatism is simply describing the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, where the bourgeoisie (the capital owners) calls the shots instead of the proletariat (the workers). In normal parlance, these countries as simply known as capitalist countries. Politics are inseparable from the economy, hence Marxism being a study of political economy.
Politics being inseparable the economy is not an invention by Marx. Even Adam Smith assumes that they’re intertwined, or he wouldn’t have written the Wealth of Nations. Here’s an excerpt from the Wealth of Nations:

To found a great empire for the sole purpose of raising up a people of customers may at first sight appear a project fit only for a nation of shopkeepers. It is, however, a project altogether unfit for a nation of shopkeepers; but extremely fit for a nation whose government is influenced by shopkeepers. Such statesmen, and such statesmen only, are capable of fancying that they will find some advantage in employing the blood and treasure of their fellow-citizens to found and maintain such an empire. Say to a shopkeeper, Buy me a good estate, and I shall always buy my clothes at your shop, even though I should pay somewhat dearer than what I can have them for at other shops; and you will not find him very forward to embrace your proposal. But should any other person buy you such an estate, the shopkeeper would be much obliged to your benefactor if he would enjoin you to buy all your clothes at his shop.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Aug 10 2025 20:41 utc | 44

We are living through a paradigm change in metaphysics, as I keep saying. Sometimes I wade out to see how far it has come along, and my report today is that it’s looking good. This article I found through one of the WiR links ties it all in, including the substance of our discussion from last week:
https://www.noemamag.com/why-science-hasnt-solved-consciousness-yet/

Posted by: persiflo | Aug 10 2025 20:41 utc | 45

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 10 2025 20:14 utc | 38
And yet, as always you’re defending the right wing proto fascist Federalist Society. Why? Glowing a little?
Posted by: All Under Heaven | Aug 10 2025 20:36 utc | 42 and 41
I am sorry to disappoint you, but I just now checked back into the bar. I had not seen any mention of “feral blacks” and if I had I would have strenuously disagreed or called it out as openly racist/fascist – which it is – prior to your scolding.
As far as Fuentes goes, let me reiterate what I said about him: He’s articulate and seems pretty bright. That’s it. Overall, I simply find the whole intra-Klan squabble entertaining for the plain stupidity and surface level moronic qualities of it. The notion of Nick Fuentes “outing” Tucker Carlson for being “CIA” is so funny because for about 9/10ths of its existence (and going back to the predecessor agencies like OSS) the CIA would probably kill to have a recruit like Nick Fuentes in their ranks. As the global mafia enforcer for Wall Street and “American Values (TM)” the agency is 100% in line with Fuentes racist, backward beliefs and more than happy to coddle or promote conspiracies like “the great replacement” if it helps to keep the population divided and distracted back home.
I’m about as far from a fascist as you’ll ever see, bud.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 10 2025 20:56 utc | 46

The fake leftist Democrat Party shills are back in force I see, and even pissing and moaning about the NGOs whose teats they suckle getting defunded.
Louis Proyect was a paid troll, like they are, but he at least mostly did his homework when trying to look like a Marxist.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 10 2025 20:56 utc | 47

Where was the “feral blacks” comment even posted? I can’t find mention of it in this thread other than by “All Under Heaven” and as I noted late last night I was off to bed after I made my last comment. I haven’t even bothered looking back for whatever thread that Nick Fuentes stuff was posted in.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 10 2025 20:59 utc | 48

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 8 2025 14:21 utc | 116
The Zionist’s mindset towards the Palestinian problem is the same as Hitler’s mindset towards the Jewish problem, and this mindset is shared by European settlers when confronted with the Native American problem. “You’ve got to give it to Hitler” is perpetuating Manifest Destiny, which is the cause of all this suffering in the first place.
Posted by: All Under Heaven | Aug 10 2025 20:27 utc | 40
Hitler’s one and only sin was to try Empire-ing other white people – even if he and the Nazis had some “legitimate” territorial grievances such as the fact that the first areas they invaded were largely populated by Germans/German speakers in areas re-territorialized as the result of WWI (an engineered conflict with many hidden purposes). Had Hitler and the Nazis focused their eugenic rage at Blacks or Arabs, the rest of the “west” would have shrugged even as they systematically murdered [mostly in firing squads and massacres] millions of Slavs, Roma, Russians, communists, socialists and yeah…Jews.
https://indi.ca/white-people-keep-looking-for-hitler-everywhere-but-in-the-mirror/

Hitler’s great project, which he announced from the beginning, was the colonization of subhuman Slavs. Eastern Europe was the closest he could get to colonies without crossing water, which seemed to terrify him. At the time, honestly, most Europeans would agree that these people, especially Russians, were ‘not quite white’.
Hitler’s great sin, really, was pushing his violence not just onto ‘sorta’ white people but onto white people directly, occupying France et al. This was pretty standard European aggression, the world was fair game to them, but it was unforgivable applied to Europe itself.
As Aimé Césaire said in his Discourse On Colonialism:
“At bottom, what [white men] cannot forgive Hitler for is not crime in itself … it is the fact that he applied to Europe colonialist procedures which until then had been reserved exclusively for the Arabs of Algeria, the coolies of India, and the n — of Africa.”

IMHO, Arch speaks from deep frustration and anger over the long-term modern day (and now) livestreamed holocaust being committed by Jews (regardless their financing and support from ostensibly Christian countries) in the name of Judaism/Zionism against the innocent Palestinians – AS WELL AS – the fascist western governments criminalizing dissent and “racism” but only insofar as it is ostensibly directed at “Jews.”
If you cannot empathize with Arch’s take, you could at least try to understand it address it productively.
Other than that slight angle, I agree with what you’ve said.
Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 10 2025 20:56 utc | 47
When has “All Under Heaven” indicated that he/she/it is a US Dimocrap?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 10 2025 21:09 utc | 49

From the article about Whitney Webb:

[…] This kind of outlandish inferential reasoning animates much of Webb’s output, from what I can gather. And there’s much more I could go through — but Webb floods the viewer and reader with such a high volume of questionable assertions in such rapid succession that it would take several lifetimes to parse everything. Which I guess may be the point.

This, totally. It’s why I’ve never trusted her.

Posted by: persiflo | Aug 10 2025 21:15 utc | 50

@All Under Heaven | Sun, 10 Aug 2025 20:34:00 GMT | 41

What truly, absolutely infuriates me about Nick Fuentes is that he suggested that China should take over New York City and have Chinese soldiers start murdering black people en masse for acting uppity (video evidence). This is an insult to the PLA. His exact words: “What if we had Chinese soldiers on every corner and if Black person started spazzing out, they took a sword out and cut his hands off and then they cut his head off. What if that happened? That would be awesome!”

I couldn’t stand listening to Fuentes. He is so full of anger, it reeks of hate.

Posted by: persiflo | Aug 10 2025 21:31 utc | 51

james | Aug 10 2025 14:41 utc | 14
“The kingdom of heaven is within you” is the answer Jesus gave to his disciples asking for the signs of his return. Don’t look for signs, the second-coming and God’s kingdom will arrive “like a thief in the night”, unannounced, but everyone will witness it. No red heifer, third temple, ersatz Israel, etc. God’s spirit is already in the temple, within you. The final judgment will come when least expected.

Posted by: Doug Terpstra | Aug 10 2025 21:33 utc | 52

@ Ahenobarbus | Aug 10 2025 18:19 utc | 34
i like and share much of your thinking on this… thanks for your input..
@ Doug Terpstra | Aug 10 2025 21:33 utc | 52
yes – thanks.. i was aware of the background on the reference, but i appreciate your addition to the conversation as perhaps it will mean juliania sees our commentary, lol!
it is a very good book, but a challenging book for anyone practicing and following a traditional christian religion…

Posted by: james | Aug 10 2025 22:17 utc | 53

@ juliania
from the previous moa week in review i posted on thursday night..
“i was wondering earlier today while reading a book by leo tolstoy called ‘the kingdom of god is within you’ if you had read this book… the reason i say this is leo tolstoy had some very interesting things to say in this book.. now i am only 50 pages into it, but i am thinking you would really benefit from reading it.. the moa poster george recommended this book and i took him up on it.. i am glad i did..
there is a brief overview in this wikipedia page on the book if you are interested..
The Kingdom of God Is Within You
Posted by: james | Aug 8 2025 3:38 utc | 222”
Posted by: james | Aug 10 2025 14:41 utc | 14
Thanks for persisting on this, james, and my apologies for getting distracted — I meant to answer you sooner. Yes, I have read Tolstoi’s work, and I think it’s unfortunate that in his later years he became rather set against the official church, rejecting its historical integrity and choosing to oppose it so completely. Brilliant writer though he is, I’m not of his thinking in that.
I’ve related that the monks at Optina wanted to attend his death bedside but couldn’t, and I would assume that was because they hoped for reconciliation, for which the fact that he had almost made pilgrimage to the monastery before collapsing at the railway station has kept in doubt what might have happened if they had then been allowed to see him. So I think the jury is out on this, and I prefer to think that indeed the intention was good on both sides.
I’ve hunted for my copy of the work, but it’s long enough ago that I had it (even before I actually came to Orthodoxy), that it has disappeared. However, if you want to discuss it further, I’d be happy to do so.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 10 2025 22:48 utc | 54

steven t johnson | Aug 10 2025 19:10 utc | 36
Blur – Mr Robinson’s Quango

“He’s the self-confessed savior of the dim right wing
he’s got respiratory problems
and a Mason’s ring.”

Identity politics and NGOs started on the right and were sold to the gullible as “pwogress”.

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Aug 10 2025 22:58 utc | 55

Small notice on “melting pot” as seen mentioned in another thread.
Most ethnicities in Russia are not the result of any “melting pot” or “multikulti” schemes (as run by both the left and the right in Europe and the US); they are the people who have always lived there, they are simply Russians. Yes Russia had an expansionist phase in its history.
The same applies to China and many other countries. Almost all countries in Africa too (where something that is normal in most nations has been turned into a weird derailment in critique against colonialism). Nigeria might be an appropriate example concerning multiple ethnicities.
Smaller countries too, such examples as Viet Nam, Sweden, Finland, Japan, Thailand, and perhaps more than usual Burma/Myanmar often have multiple original/old/non-immigrant ethnicities.
One should even be cautious of old records of national “homogeneity”, they don’t necessarily reflect biology/genetics or geographical origin.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Aug 10 2025 23:06 utc | 56

Observation
Observation of the August 9 “Ukraine – Setting The Stage For U.S.-Russia Talks“ thread. An account of the outlier obsessive poster, “Love Donbass”.
He does attempt to be among the very first to post in every new thread.
This time, he narrowly missed making it into the first 10 posts, he was activated by utc 17:57.
He then posts incessantly as the thread climbs past 100 and 150. Nine straight hours.
>23:26 utc | 148
>0:18 utc | 154
> 1:12 utc | 164
A sample size of just 3, shows he’s making a reply averaging every 10 posts.
Between utc 18:00 and utc 0:00 Some 60 other posters come, comment, engage, leave. But Dumbass is still hasn’t left his keyboard. Hours keyboard warrior duty. Compulsively responding to poster after poster. He’s Gatekeeper of Bar and no post can pass without being appraised and parsed by him.
The thread count hits 187. Time 2:43 utc. He’s still on keyboard duty.
By this time most in North America have retired for the evening. It’s the Australian contingent who begin to take over the bar, around their Sunday lunchtime.
Still the Dumbass posts on.
The sheer volume of his posts and the time at the keyboard is not natural.
There’s outliers in a cohort. And then there’s Dumbass.
No other poster posts as frequently or for the duration as Dumbass.
Why?
Why does this guy respond to everything and everyone.
Why is he online here for 10 /12/ 15/ 27 hours.
Yes folks, a while back I noted he or whatever it is, posted across a single thread for 27 hours, with only a time gap of a little over three hours.
Why?
No one else does this.
This latest thread. First 100 posts had 60 original posters. Some made 2-3 posts.
Dumbass? In the first 100 posts, his score is 6. Double of any other poster.
Second 100 posts. Dumbass score is 10. More than 10% of one page is Dumbass. Still going 10 hours after the thread opened.
Onto the 3rd page of 100 posts.
He’s there:
4:17 utc | 205
5:14 utc | 211
The thread then goes dormant for an hour, as it’s sleeping time for normal North Americans, and Europeans and Australians are doing Sunday things.
The thread is slow, with spasmodic posts, so our Obsessive Friend managers to stay off line.
This is merely an observation account of one thread, but I’ve been noting his posting frequency and style for maybe a year.
He behaves like absolutely no one else. For some time I wondered why. And then he told us:


I am a propagandist at heart. Built for the Infowar.
I would be marketing Zakuzhny in the counter offensive and the troop losses, as well as the aid money squandered. Some choice quotes from disgruntled former soldiers.
It won’t change anything but I really love antagonizing and subverting an opponent. Almost as much as I want to win.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 29 2025 18:07 utc | 30

And there you have it. In his own words.
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Now I address his nasty sneaky sniper posts.
He posts some reasonable contributions and then he’ll post an attack on someone with abuse and ad hominem.
Then, exactly like a snivelling cowardly bitch that he is, he’ll then cry and call foul should he be replied to in kind.
Sanctimoniously reminding everyone that we should abstain from personal attack.
So he is a hypocrite as well as a “propagandist”, and an “antagonist” who loves “subverting”.
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Some other observant posters have picked up on his obsessive overposting and his nasty sneaky drive by attacks, but most here only call by briefly and aren’t sitting on a thread across 15+ hours to pick up on what a weirdo this guy is.
But I’m a barstool, and I notice smelly stinky assholes.
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Posted by: Skidmark on Barstool | Aug 10 2025 23:55 utc | 57

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Aug 10 2025 20:37 utc | 43 All I can say is, at this point their required reading lists for new recruits is orthodox Marxism, with a heavy emphasis on Stalin, maybe exceptional for saying DuBois is the first great American Marxist in some of their classes. I am not a supporter of ACP in any serious sense, not only would they not have me as a member (for one thing I wear glasses—and yes that’s apparently an issue for their online wing! But I am convinced that their illusions about MAGA will break them. I imagine it’s the online people who will absorb the cryptofascism in MAGA? Most of the rest will lapse into apathy, their hopes crushed.
Part of the problem is that nobody knows what MAGA is, especially not MAGA supporters. No one knows when America stopped being great. No one knows what Made A Great America, either. (I would say, the American Revolution—but not the Constitutional Convention; the Civil War and the Reconstruction Amendments; the labor movements and the agrarian movements of the late nineteenth century; the Anti-Imperialist League but not the Progressive movement; the New Deal, the American Popular Front; the civil rights movement and the promises of the Great Society, which was sacrificed to the Vietnam War.) Inasmuch as there hasn’t been a liberal president and a liberal program since 1968, I’m pretty sure anybody raving about liberalism, is probably so crazy they think the Democrats are left. (No, dear, not since 1948. Isn’t it time to catch up people?)

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 11 2025 0:27 utc | 58

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Aug 10 2025 22:58 utc | 55 Thank you for the link. Also, yes. The Foundation for Economic Education was constructed in 1946!

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 11 2025 0:30 utc | 59

Posted by: james | Aug 10 2025 14:41 utc | 14
James, I’ve done a bit of research using one of my favorite Orthodox theologians, Georges Florovsky, as I remembered that he has had things to say about all the great Russian authors – exceedingly difficult to find unfortunately, but here are some scraps.
First a brief quotation : “Tolstoy,” he once said in a telling comment,”may not have had all the historical facts right in his War and Peace, and no few witnesses have said so, but he had the right intuition.” [From Georges Florovsky, Russian Intellectual: Orthodox Churchman]
Next:

“…In the history of Russian creativity the second half of the nineteenth century was characterized more than anything by a new aesthetic upsurge, a new religious philosophical awakening … But Russian consciousness did not equal and did not follow this creativity. The new upsurge of artistic genius was answered by ‘the destruction of the aesthetic’ (from Pisarev to Tolstoy) and the religious pangs and yearnings were frequently counterpoised to shallow and ignorant rationalism. It was again a rift, a falling apart: intellect against instinct.
reason against intuition.” [Florovsky’s own description]

Unfortunately I could not find a paper Fr. Florovsky wrote on three authors that included Tolstoi and Dostoievski, it is online but not for me 🙁

Posted by: juliania | Aug 11 2025 0:36 utc | 60

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 10 2025 20:14 utc | 38 The point is that the NGOs aren’t defunded, they still get money from the rich. Even the Corporation for Public Broadcasting sells air time to sponsors and gets private funding. Also, people like this aren’t against NGOs unless they think the NGOs are advancing socially liberal ideas, what they often call globalism, or—worst of all—undercutting Trump. As to the Federalist Society and the Republican Party, this person is invited to look at the judiciary, especially the federal judiciary. The Federalist Society has worked for years to corrupt the judicial system and they have gone very far indeed in accomplishing their mission. Maybe too far to save the country by peaceful means? And I agree, defending the Federalist Society really does give the game away.
Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 10 2025 20:56 utc | 47 Yet another stupid person who thinks the NGOs have been defunded, because they have no problem at all with rich people running these privileged entities. Also, another defender of the Federalist Society! One more time, NGOs that lose government money still have rich people’s money and they still have special privileges (tax exemptions and others.) No the tin god Trump did not abolish the subversion of society—especially ours!—by tacking his personal opponents. This is all only about supporting Trump, the great white hope of a full-fledged fascist dictatorship.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 11 2025 0:45 utc | 61

The Canadian Company Staffing ‘Alligator Alcatraz’
https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2025/08/08/Canadian-Company-Staffing-Alligator-Alcatraz/
“A Canadian company is providing the muscle for a new Florida detention centre dubbed ‘Alligator Alcatraz’ – and the Canadian government isn’t ruling out working with the security giant in the future.
This wishy-washy stance when it comes to jaw-dropping cruelty tied to the United States is yet another stroke in an increasingly clear portrait: one of Prime Minister Mark Carney with his elbows firmly planted to his sides when it comes to big business…”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 11 2025 1:32 utc | 62

Dear Poster #57
In defense of Love Donbas:
Firstly, it is courteous to call people by the moniker they have chosen. To refer to them with anything but that, or worse, a slur, redounds on the one making it.
Secondly, during the past years, he/she admitted to a somewhat “restless nature” and at another time to having been angry since childhood (oh, I do hope I do not misquote here). We do not know LD’s circumstances and have certainly no right to analyze or worse, judge him/her.
Thirdly, LD might well be housebound and the internet a window to the world and commenting a way of connecting with people and sharing views. Sometimes LD sounds a bit “professorial”, didactic if you will (previously a teacher, just a humorous guess) and calling others Nazi not the best way to make friends in the bar, but goodness gracious, are we all faultless?
To finish this all too long post (I try to remember B’s admonition to be brief) let us take the beam out of our eye first before we try to remove the splinter from the eye of our brother (not my quote, just taken from my favorite book). I hope I don’t come across as sanctimonious or worse, virtue signaling. Believe me, I am very aware that my post to you sounds like I am riding the high moral horse here, but that is really not my intention. I just want to defend another barfly, even if he/she is irritating at times. Be well and don’t be angry. Thanks.

Posted by: Maria | Aug 11 2025 2:07 utc | 63

Maria.
Posters need to understand that Dumbass is exactly what he himself tells us he is… a deliberate antagonist, a infowar warrior, here to dominate threads and be a propagandist.
As a barstool I detect his stinky asshole. I’m providing a community service by alerting others to what Dumbass is and why he is here for 12-18 hours a day disrupting threads.

Posted by: Barstool | Aug 11 2025 2:50 utc | 64

I want to add more to the conversation regarding Mr. Fuentes’ two-part takedown of Tucker Carlson. I strongly suggest barflies take a look with an open mind. Judge the man on his content, not on his delivery or his preferred political alignment. If someone has something crucial to say about the Media Jester-in-Chief of Maga, Tucker Carlson, it would be wise to give the content a good listen and judge it on his merit. Yes, I recognize this retort from Nick Fuentes to Mr. Carlson has come at a time when it seems that Tucker is just now getting going with his attacks on Israel. But as Fuentes makes clear, these attacks are only ostensibly against neoconservatism without identifying that neoconservatism is an intrinsic Jewish phenomenon in its origin. A crucial distinction and it seems only Fuentes here can smell a rat wrt Tucker.
So regarding the question: “Well, why does it matter if Tucker is finally talking about Israel’s crimes? Isn’t that a good thing? Why is Mr. Fuentes suddenly attacking Carlson?” Aleph_Null accused Mr. Fuentes of being a glowee (Federal Agent or CIA/Mossad controlled) and I suppose we need to consider that angle.
But I have a better suggestion and that is to consider that there is such a thing as a “blow-off pressure release valve” in the media sphere. These can be utilized at will within Op: Mockingbird to make it seem that because a situation is being covered fairly on the surface, that the situation is indeed being handled justly.
But I would say this is a seeming. That the U.S. is still coordinating with Israel regarding the wishes of the Zionist entity regarding procurement is the reality.
Gatekeeping keeps the anger at a simmer. It’s objective is to keep it from boiling over and rising up to truly demand accountability within our government.
Mr. Fuentes’ expose on Tucker is truly impressive. As I related to Tom, it is not enough to only watch the two part series once. There are many names named over several generations and powerful families are involved.
Regarding Persiflo’s comment of seething hatred dripping from Fuentes: you bet your fucking ass.
You try being blacklisted at 18, debanked, and put on a no-fly list. I think you might harbor some kind of a grudge.
And look at the whole zoomer generation. Fuck you old timers who think that they just need to bootstrap.
Our elite are importing millions upon millions of third world laborers to drive down wages. They are importing hundreds of thousands of H1-Bs to throw STEM jobs to the foreigners way. Yeah, zoomers have every right to be pissed, and this is also in an age when zoomer whites grew up thinking they were the cause of all the world’s ills.
FUCK YOU FOR NOT NOTICING THIS!
And FYI: Fuentes has never condoned violenc, unlike Jews and their assassinations throughout the years as explored recently in an Unz article.

Regarding All Under Heaven’s stupid attack on decent, principled posters, I will only say that America First, buddy! It’s only natural. Just like it’s natural for Chinese to say, “China First!”
Your misreading of my “feral blacks” comment is proof enough that you are not up to the task of understanding where Nationalists in America are coming from.
My comment was to make clear that Tucker and Con Inc. want us to talk about Feral blacks, and transgenderism, and gay sex, and all this stuff that doesn’t matter.
And yes, Con Inc. does have a popular hashtag right now: #Blackfatigue. I am lampooning their efforts here to distract us with blacks behaving badly.
Mockingbird media wants us to focus on unruly blacks. I suggest focusing on the foreign policy that has created the conditions in the U.S. for a great unraveling of the fabric of a nation.
I don’t have time for “chimp out” videos or what have you.
So up yours for mischaracterizing my posts.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 11 2025 3:10 utc | 65

Reflecting on it more, I can honestly sympathize with Fuentes on a deeply personal level and understand his anger.
Imagine being so brilliant and articulate that you outrun every trap enemies lay for you and yet they still control the narrative so can paint you as whatever: a white supremacist, a racist, holocaust denier.
Arendt on Heidegger: “A fox so clever he fell into every trap.” (Not that I agree with Arendt here)
If there were any decent arbitration left in the popular mind, Fuentes would have proven his merit twice over. But wanting to be heard is like being a lover scorned.
We loved too much. Perhaps we should have forsaken our responsibility to the good and lived a simpler, unprincipled life.
We would have then be understood but not heard and this would have saved a lot of effort.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 11 2025 3:39 utc | 66

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 11 2025 3:10 utc | 65
Thanks for the clarification of a comment I hadn’t even seen but was chastised over for my obviously explainable non reaction. I’m very happy to hear that you’re not of the mind that tHA bLaX aren’t “feral”. My opinion on dA JoOz is a little more conflicted than yours or Fuentes but I’d like to think you’ve come around on exactly what US and European policies that most migrants to both are fleeing. It’s usually safer and often more stable in the core of an imperium than on the periphery. And much more tempting to venture there when it literally sells itself as a democracy willing to take in the poor, persecuted masses with a big ass statue.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 11 2025 4:09 utc | 67

Sigh … That you don’t think…ARE feral.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 11 2025 4:10 utc | 68

Imagine being so brilliant and articulate that you outrun every trap enemies lay for you and yet they still control the narrative so can paint you as whatever
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 11 2025 3:39 utc | 66
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I feel this profoundly. That’s humans.
People accuse me of being judgmental, which is in itself a judgment.
It is a rare mind that can note its incongruencies and contradictions.
I work at it.
Almost no one else does.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 11 2025 4:18 utc | 69

I think my opinion on suppression of wages differs from Nemesis in that it’s the more holistic American capitalist system against which the working classes need more solidarity and levers available to us to fight rather than how many workers are available. It’s much more a problem of commodifying workers in many fields and the table tilted against us than it is how many Mexicans fleeing US elite policies are willing to work meat packing or drywall or Indians willing to code. Your villain should always be private finance and its ownership of our governments. Poor people are almost never who we should be blaming.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 11 2025 4:18 utc | 70

Sunday Wire, Ep 558, with Patrick Henningsen
https://x.com/21WIRE/status/1954573965353230768
“More US betrays coming in Lebanon, Russia et al…”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 11 2025 4:47 utc | 71

@ Tom and Love
America is going to be hit sooner or later by whatever pent-up rage demon that stalks our country.
I think there is a way forward. America doesn’t have to be the world menance. I am hopeful. But it’s gonna take a hell of an effort from keeping it from fracturing completely.
It’s gonna take honest conversations without kneejerking and gatekeeping.
Just like whites, blacks will need to look deep down into their motivations and patterns of behavior.
Mexicans will have to decide: do they want this land for Mexico and the Spanish Lingua or for the U.S. and the English language.
And Jews will have to finally stare at the 10,000lb. matzo ball in the room.

I talked a few days ago about the rising tension in Japan wrt to foreigners and their problem of low birth rate/replacement.
Can anyone imagine a consumerist, race-mixed Japan? I think there is a deep and mysterious beauty about the Japanese culture in particular. Almost like a hushed secret they pass amongst themselves. It is not to say that they should never allow a foreigner into the essence of this secret (regardless of whether the secret could even possibly be understood by the foreigner), but I submit that the secret should be maintained at all costs.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 11 2025 4:52 utc | 72

@ Love 69
Never minded your posts. You don’t seem to gatekeep or label other posters which I appreciate. I think your writing is concise and worthwhile.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 11 2025 5:00 utc | 73

I want to add more to the conversation regarding Mr. Fuentes’ two-part takedown of Tucker Carlson.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 11 2025 3:10 utc | 65

This tread seems to have meat.
Could you please add source links to help bring me up to speed?

Posted by: too scents | Aug 11 2025 5:03 utc | 74

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 11 2025 4:52 utc | 72
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Ever notice how older people tend to be calm and measured? Life experiences have a way of smoothing out the rough spots. It’s not up to us as a conscious decision.
By existing, moderation occurs.
All people and groups that endure pass through this process.
That will come for America, which is still a very young nation considering its out-sized power and influence.
Humanity hasn’t figured out the ideal society or economic system yet. Millions of innocents will die in the process.
Every day, through the fact that people act and socialize, these answers emerge.
One of the great sins, IMO, of the modern world was corrupting the Japanese culture and people. Their rigid social forms were elegant, and there was a sophistication to their aesthetics.
If anyone did Feudalism well, it was the Japanese.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 11 2025 5:16 utc | 75

@74 too scents
My pleasure.
Nick Fuentes – Exposing Tucker Carlson (Part I)
Background: Nick Fuentes’ backstory, his interview with Candace Owens as a set-up for Candace’s eventual appearance on Tucker Carlson where they smear him in a 10-min segment; Tucker’s ties with Peter Thiel; neoconservatism and jewishness
Nick Fuentes – Exposing Tucker Carlson (Part 2)
Background: I actually got more out of this episode. You may just want to watch this one and if it intrigues you, go back and watch Part 1.
Continued investigation into Tucker (Yale), the origins of the OSS, CIA, Mossad, William F. Buckley enlisted by the CIA, forming pro-Israel/anti-communist campus newspaper at Yale; Peter Thiel and Dinesh D’Souza taking money from same Jews to form their own newspapers (Stanford Review, et al.)

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 11 2025 5:26 utc | 76

To james, again:
It is actually an easy thing to find online the book you were eager for me to read, just give a search of the title and it will come up. I can only wonder that you felt I should do so, since it rather lowers my estimation of Tolstoi. However, I’ll stick with my former opinion expressed in my first answer to you above. Because he did make that pilgrimage at the end of his life, I do think he wanted to make peace with the monks.
I began reading his text but could not penetrate beyond early chapters. Certainly for pacifists of his time, and even during WW2 I believe, there was not the option of conscientious objector status. And also, it is to be honored in such as the Quakers that they have this belief and practise it.
I think the problem that arose was the singularity and importance Tolstoi gives to his doctrine as being against the words of the evangelists, who, if not to be believed to be the followers of Christ setting down as best they could everything about his life – well, how to believe the words they say he spoke? They are his followers, and certainly they honor the words they say Christ spoke, as well as the context in which he spoke them.
“… And this happened first in the earliest times, when the doctrine was still not so fully understood and often interpreted wrongly, as we see by the Gospels and the Acts…”
The above is as far as I went. Apologies, I think I misspoke when I said I had read the book. I knew that Tolstoi had his own doctrine, but didn’t realize it went as far as this seems to be going.
God bless him, anyway.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 11 2025 5:29 utc | 77

Well … where to start? Comments or links? It’s early yet not had my morning tea.
Ok how about this easy one
Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 10 2025 19:10 utc |
“I’m so old I remember when the term was QUANGO, quasi-nongovernmental organizations. “
Well – I’m actually not so old to forget that it was actually – QUasi AutoNomous Government Organisation.
It was an Americanism brought into the U.K. during the mid 70’s as preparation for Maggies Handbagging of the British Public Service ethos and unleashing the neoliberal new world order. It was the rage in my economics teachers curriculum…
They never went away – they just got withdrawn from public scrutiny by the civil service watchdogs and became opaque and multifarious Soros type vehicles.
The virus carriers of the secret spending of the deepstate misusing public funds.
They became fully AUTONOMOUS.
Surely the most important aspect of the naming change?

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 11 2025 6:08 utc | 78

– Rubbish. The terms “Inflation” and “deflation” are very poorly understood. “Stagflation” assumes that the USD will continue to sag against e.g. EUR and e.g. CAD. Like in the 1970s. And it won’t. I expect that the USD will go “ballistic” like the USD did in the 2nd half of 2008. I expect the EUR/USD to (much) lower from the current say 1.15 to about say 0.50.
Inflation & Deflation.
– “Rising / Falling prices” are NOT “Inflation”/”Deflation”. They are simply “Rising/Falling prices. “Inflation/Deflation” are defined as an Increase / Decrease of the amount of money. A good example was the timeframe 1870 – 1900. In that time frame prices were falling but at the same time there was an increase of money (Inflation).

Posted by: WMG | Aug 11 2025 6:41 utc | 79

I had my early morning cuppa and fell asleep catching up with the Duran bros…
Carrying on with posters…
@ Posted by: All Under Heaven | Aug 10 2025 20:41 utc | 44
Fabulous tour de force. On fire and largely on target.
Not sure yet I wholly agree, but am greatly compelled. Perhaps I cavil a bit at some historical statements, which might be considered as posturing as a means of ‘cover’ ?
I could be paranoid about such ‘history’, written as it is by the supposed winners or certainly propogandist ‘news’ media.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 11 2025 8:40 utc | 80

Ok let’s get to some breakfast meat.
@ Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 10 2025 16:24 utc | 29
“two Substack articles by Aurelien, both of them are absolute gems, well worth the reading time; time and again I found myself nodding my head at various points.”
(I read them before coming across your comment, none of the below is meant as a personal argument against you I just hang it on your comment as a springing point. Please don’t take it personally, Ok? )
Careful noddy that your head doesn’t fall off! 😉
You’ll need big ears to hear the whooshing empty hole sitting in both his pseudo rigorous ‘essays’.
Read it again and again and again until you can discern that elephant sized carefully crafted hole in his position – which reeks of Russophobia/Sinophobia.
Tgat is the Eurasian, Mackinders World Island, which has driven the Collective Western’ animus for centuries, it’s offensive invasions and foreign policy proxy provocations, isn’t mentioned by the fake Aurelius.
He skirts around it by the narrow focus on just the C21st.
Now you may think that’s fine and no one needs to know of the actual root cause of Russophobia amongst Europes peoples as being somehow longstanding and tied to the Eurasian hordes. Which he alludes to almost excusing that base racism and in effect echoing it.
I see it as a glaring attempt to divert from the root cause of all planned attacks and wars against the Russians and their resources.
He does acknowledge the size and resources and the multiethnic peoples that made Russia the nation it is. He admits they have no desire for expansion into western Eurasia the holy Roman empires base promontory. Russia doesn’t need them. Or an Empire.
But says that doesn’t stop the fake distressed modem coo’s of Western Europeans!
Implying it must be real!
Russia only ever lacked a warm water all year round port. It’s Achilles heel that has been targeted over and over again by its most IMPLACABLE ENEMY.
That need expires soon (in semi climatic time scale meaning) as the Northern Sea Routes become usable with the immense icebreakers and nuclear ships ushering in the future centuries when they will no longer be needed.
That elephant in the room of course is the Old Bastards Never Ending Invasions to own Russia and China.
Their Implacable demand of a return of their Khazar Empire. The yielding of the great lands and almost resources of that vastest of all contiguous Nations. In whose mould the USA was fabricated and stitched together!
America was built to rival and capture the great Russian Federation; to better it and win it.
As their European satraps states and nations and generals failed gain and again to do so.
Americans are their golem – constructed by the ziofascist shapeshifters – that is the Yankee Poodles. Who deluded themselves with some fake genesis creation myth and Founders … childish as such young nations always are.
It is why the USA is still being built up, with ever more living parts attached – a gruesome vivisectionist Frankensteinesque Monster. Because it has failed in its task over the many decades now. It’s masters and owners, the mad dynastic creators, are that cruel. They have done it to every nation they created.
Where is the the zero point in aurelians constructed axis?
There is none without these points of reference and timescale.
He merely paves the way for further deadly attempts.
Merely describing the reasons for the failures to win against the RF.
They didn’t fall into the provoked trap to go all in, trying to take all of their borderlands.
They started with an expeditionary sized force, didn’t escalate to a full fledged maddened bear charge ; but have prepared for a much bigger attempt to be invaded themselves, as they have been throughout history!
Not a single mention of such attempts – not even Napoleon and the Grande Armee constructed and paid for by the real snakes in the grass of the western EurAsian – the European JudaeoChristian Holy Roman Eden (empire!)
– Aurelian comes across to me as a shill.
A Ziofascists shill, in my gut estimation.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 11 2025 9:34 utc | 81

Louis Proyect lite: “Yet another stupid person who thinks the NGOs have been defunded, because they have no problem at all with rich people running these privileged entities.”
Of course some oligarchs picked up the tab for some of these NGOs. You’re still here, right? The difference is that now you cannot pretend to be doing some public service with your trollery. You serve the oligarchy, as I’ve always said, only now you do so directly with no fig leaf to cover your servility.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 11 2025 9:56 utc | 82

My intention was to write about how Trump is trying to drive the homeless out of DC and then saw the posting title below at Reuters
Exclusive: Fistful of dollars and rice for Vietnam farmers displaced for $1.5 billion Trump golf club

Vietnamese farmer Nguyen Thi Huong has slept poorly since authorities told her to vacate her farm for a Trump family-backed golf resort, offering just $3,200 and rice provisions in return. The golf resort is offering thousands of villagers such compensation packages to leave the land.

I wonder what the MAGA crowd thinks of this? The inequality on display among our species makes us look like a sick joke……but they keep telling us that are doing God’s work……the biggest sick joke.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 11 2025 10:47 utc | 83

psychohistorian @83: “I wonder what the MAGA crowd thinks of this?”
Perhaps they wonder what it feels like to be a meat robot being emotionally manipulated by Establishment media?
Out of thousands of international development projects going on in Vietnam (shopping malls, business parks, resorts, hotels) you hear about exactly one of them. Why that one? Because they want you to be like “Aargh! Orange Man bad!”. They’re playing you like a cheap kazoo.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 11 2025 11:38 utc | 84

@Charles Peterson #18
Webb has consistently demonstrated nothing more than her being a clickbait journalist.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 11 2025 12:00 utc | 85

Nick Fuentes’ backstory, his interview with Candace Owens as a set-up for Candace’s eventual appearance on Tucker Carlson
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 11 2025 5:26 utc | 76

Oophf!
Let them fight.

Posted by: too scents | Aug 11 2025 12:31 utc | 86

So, it’s not far-fetched for me to claim that Americans wish for a black genocide in America while keeping their own hands clean and blaming the Chinese for the genocide.
Posted by: All Under Heaven | Aug 10 2025 20:34 utc | 41
To All Under Heaven, I appreciated your long posts on this thread, +++.
Yes, Let’s sort it out 🙂 Be rigorous 🙂 -> I’m not joking.
Never heard of Nick Fuentes so thx to all for the info.
The one line quoted above from you puzzled me, so ?

Posted by: Noirette | Aug 11 2025 13:56 utc | 87

@ juliania | Aug 10 2025 22:48 utc | 54 // 60 // 77
thanks for responding and offering some of your thoughts on this juliania.. tolstoy was in his early 60’s when the book ‘the kingdom of god is within you’… he had written other books on the topic of religion as well beginning with these – Religious Treatise in Three Volumes (untitled)
Introduction: A Confession (1879–1880)[2]
Vol. 1: A Criticism of Dogmatic Theology (1880–1882)
Vol. 2: The Four Gospels Harmonized and Translated (1880–1882)
The Gospel in Brief (Containing only the summaries and translations from Vol. 2) (1882)
Vol. 3: What I Believe (aka My Religion) (1884)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Tolstoy_bibliography
i think it is fair to say he had given this fascinating topic of religion ( if i can call it that) a lot of thought and specifically the issue of christianity, the life of jesus and the books associated with this life, as seen in the titles above..
the translation of the book i have is a few hundred pages of fairly dense writing.. i imagine the only people who would read something like this would be people who had a strong interest in understanding tolstoys thoughts on these matters..
as i understand it, he makes a distinction between organized religion and religion or religious belief.. he comes down hard on organized religion, but highlights the central importance of the ideas of jesus contained especially in the gospels and the sermon on the mount. he specifically takes up the topic of the idea of ”resist not evil” and goes to great lengths at understanding this idea from many different angles..
i have only read the first 5 chapters and am on about page 80 of the book.. i was curious to know if you had read it and i think i thought of this about the time i was reading the later part of chapter 3… if you can find an online copy, perhaps the little i have said might interest you or arouse your curiousity.. i think tolstoy was still very much mentally active and had a lot of interesting ideas to express at this point in his life.. i don’t know that much about the man, his life and etc and although i read anna kaarina a long time ago, i haven’t read anything else by him.. i can see why the book was banned in russia at the time though, and perhaps his thinking was too challenging for many people to read or consider.. i could understand that..
thanks for the many comments and ideas you’ve shared in these posts in response.. i read them all and continue to know very little about the man, but am intrigued by what you’ve shared and interested in knowing more..

Posted by: james | Aug 11 2025 15:25 utc | 88

he was born in 1828, to give some perspective on his age at the time of these writings listed above..

Posted by: james | Aug 11 2025 15:26 utc | 89

Thanks, james. Yes, I do understand that Tolstoi wrote much on the subject – his father was a priest, as I understand. I have written in the past about the relationship between my own church family in Santa Fe and the Tolstoys – there are even books to be found which deal directly with the subject. One very good one is “Echoes of a Native Land” by Serge Schmemann.
My own background is not directly involved with Tolstoy’s personal beliefs. If you read “War and Peace” in its entirety, you will come across passages, even whole chapters, devoted to the philosophical aspect of those. They are hard to capsulize, but yes, it was an ongoing exploration for him.
My own diverges at the point wherein I became enamored of Dostoievski’s novel “The Brothers Karamazov. If you read that novel, Dostoievski’s own philosophy becomes apparent. Again, it is not possible to capsulize but both authors center on the Optina monastery– Tolstoi in opposition, Dostoievski in support. If you like, the two authors are somewhat ‘pro and contra’, although to me, Dostoievski does a better job of setting those two variants out in all their complexity.
Our little church was just beginning then, and I moved into my own discovery of Russian Orthodoxy with Dostoievski’s help. My small family joined me there once they saw how much I enjoyed the experience. I love that my kids asked to come; they were not forced to do so.
That’s a short look at what I have to offer here. If you need to hear more from me, I’m much better at explaining why I chose the alternative to Tolstoi than otherwise. And if you don’t understand any parts of my previous explanation, let me know what it is you don’t see, as I think I’ve said as much as I could.
Thanks for being interested.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 11 2025 16:42 utc | 90

I posted this on the open thread but it is pretty well dead so double post–
Amnesty published about Venezuela the other day:
“The international community cannot normalize or ignore the human rights crisis in Venezuela. The scale and gravity of the crimes committed in the country – particularly the enforced disappearance of people – must stir the conscience of the world, and propel international justice into action”
I cancelled my donations to Amnesty a few years ago when a rep called me up to tell me how evil Gadafi was and would I increase my monthly donation.
Seems the US owns almost every organization out there.

Posted by: arby | Aug 11 2025 17:01 utc | 91

This link is for Exile, who follows the topic very closely.
Foreign investors disappear from US Treasury auctions, as China borrows at the lowest rates ever 10 minutes 44 seconds
Kevin Walmsley (the speaker, who may be a distant in-law) is a Christian-American housing developer based out of China and in this video talks about a phenomenon I have mentioned before, that China is now offering US dollar debt to the Global South cheaper than America can.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 11 2025 17:12 utc | 92

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 11 2025 9:56 utc | 82 I suggest, RICO the Federalist Society, and this hack calls me a paid troll. Anti-establishment commenters are not paid trolls, however, making this comment more of the stupid. He does love his right wing NGOs, doesn’t he?

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 11 2025 17:15 utc | 93

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 11 2025 4:52 utc | 72
I’m no Japan historian but the US has always ALWAYS been a multilingual melting pot. My ancestors on half were Dutch New Yorkers, previously New Holland. I speak conversationally fluent Spanish. My great great uncles spoke French, Cajun and Pawnee.
I am not bitter about being “replaced” like Fuentes is.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 11 2025 18:35 utc | 94

Azerbaijan’s Foreign Minister Publishes FULL TEXT of Peace Agreement With Armenia
https://x.com/RT_com/status/1954896686540865827
“17 points to end decades of conflict.”
Perhaps. This from a prominent Western stink-tank:
Seizing the Moment: Western Opportunities Amid Change in the South Caucasus
https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/seizing-moment-western-opportunities-amid-change-south-caucasus
“…This coordinated anti-Russia effort is a pivotal moment for the West to relaunch its efforts towards improving its influence within the region, counterbalancing Russian influence, and promoting a model of regional stability that aligns with Western interests…”
Further discussed here:
Marandi & Galloway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_ADTeQcLyc

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 11 2025 18:45 utc | 95

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 11 2025 18:35 utc | 94
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You’re not bitter about the Pawnee being replaced?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 11 2025 18:46 utc | 96

@ juliania | Aug 11 2025 16:42 utc | 90
thanks! i would be most curious to know if there was any interaction between dostoievski and tolstoi.. they are only approx 7 years apart in terms of their age.. i did read brothers karamazov and a few other of dostoievskis books although aside from internalizing dostoievskis ideas on religion from the brothers karamazov book, i don’t have any other ideas on his perspective on organized religion.. i think my interest and curiousity is over a distinction i am making between organized religion and religion outside the realm of organized religion.. this is what tolstoy addresses… i don’t know what dostoievski thought about these matters, but on wikipedia page on him, i quote the following –
“In his incomplete article “Socialism and Christianity”, Dostoevsky claimed that civilisation (“the second stage in human history”) had become degraded, and that it was moving towards liberalism and losing its faith in God. He asserted that the traditional concept of Christianity should be recovered. He thought that contemporary western Europe had “rejected the single formula for their salvation that came from God and was proclaimed through revelation, ‘Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself’, and replaced it with practical conclusions such as, ‘Chacun pour soi et Dieu pour tous’ [Every man for himself and God for all], or “scientific” slogans like ‘the struggle for survival.'”[131] He considered this crisis to be the consequence of the collision between communal and individual interests, brought about by a decline in religious and moral principles.”
and further down –
“In Semipalatinsk, Dostoevsky revived his faith by looking frequently at the stars. Wrangel said that he was “rather pious, but did not often go to church, and disliked priests, especially the Siberian ones. But he spoke about Christ ecstatically.” Two pilgrimages and two works by Dmitri Rostovsky, an archbishop who influenced Ukrainian and Russian literature by composing groundbreaking religious plays, strengthened his beliefs.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Dostoevsky
neither of these people have an approach to christianity that is easy to define or understand.. i think they represent 2 valid personal perspectives that might be captured in some of their literature, but i don’t know that we’ll ever completely understand this question i am pondering on the distinctions between organized, verses personal beliefs of a religious nature..

Posted by: james | Aug 11 2025 18:48 utc | 97

@94 Tom
It’s not a question of “looking for a fight” between Spanish and English speakers.
It is a matter of the fight coming to them when the easy money from American hegemony ends.
It times of downturn, scapegoats must be found and offered up to the gods to restore happiness.
Whether we like it or not, a violent reckoning is coming to the west. By talking about these differences within a nation that tear at a unified fabric, perhaps we can frontrun the inevitable violence. We can talk about how a nation needs one language and culture to exist peacefully in an equilibrium.
Certainly no one can argue that having ethnic enclaves, different religions, and burgeoning minority violence does not constitute a powder keg for violence to erupt while we wait for a low-trust society to become even more fractured during the coming cataclysmic downturn.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 11 2025 18:52 utc | 98

@ NemesisCalling | Aug 11 2025 18:52 utc | 98
Language isn’t the inevitable problem. The inevitable problem is that brown-, yellow-, and black-pigmented people don’t look white.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 11 2025 19:01 utc | 99

@ malenkov
No there are myriad problems: culture, gender roles/norms, language, and skin color definitely.
We are talking about the human being that has as its telos a spiritual communion with God but can’t help but be pulled back into the mud of violence and unrest.
Race exists. Deal with it.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 11 2025 19:09 utc | 100