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August 16, 2025
Summarizing The Summit

The summit between U.S. President Donald Trump and Russia's President Vladimir Putin was shorter than had been planned. But it was mostly successful.

Trump had urgently needed the meeting. He had pushed for a ceasefire in Ukraine. He had threatened to impose secondary sanctions against buyers of Russia's oil to press Russia towards that.

But Russia did not budge. Its interest is to eliminate the root cause of the war in Ukraine – the expansion of NATO towards Russia's borders. A ceasefire would only have paused the war but would not have solved the underlying issue.

For Trump the threat of secondary sanctions had become a trap. Some rather mild addition of tariffs against India had led to a strong backlash. India did not stop buying Russian oil but turned away from the U.S. to endorse Brics, Russia and China. Imposing secondary sanctions against China would have escalated into a trade war with China which the U.S. has no way to win.

The summit created a win for each side.

Trump acknowledged that a ceasefire was not possible and that the war needs to end with an all-encompassing peace agreement:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump – Aug 16, 2025, 8:46 UTC

A great and very successful day in Alaska! The meeting with President Vladimir Putin of Russia went very well, as did a late night phone call with President Zelenskyy of Ukraine, and various European Leaders, including the highly respected Secretary General of NATO. It was determined by all that the best way to end the horrific war between Russia and Ukraine is to go directly to a Peace Agreement, which would end the war, and not a mere Ceasefire Agreement, which often times do not hold up. President Zelenskyy will be coming to D.C., the Oval Office, on Monday afternoon. If all works out, we will then schedule a meeting with President Putin. Potentially, millions of people’s lives will be saved. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

After he had given Putin that part of the cake Trump took his own piece. 

In an interview (vid) with Foxnews after the summit Trump was asked about imposing sanctions. He responded: "Well, because the meeting went so well, we don’t have to think about that now.”

There will be no ceasefire to freeze the conflict and there will be no sanctions. Both sides can count that as wins.

The task of ending the conflict was tossed off to Zelensky and Europe:

Without hesitating, Trump said that his advice to Zelenskyy after Friday’s meeting with Putin would be "make a deal."

On Monday Zelenski will be told to give up and to make peace with Russia. European protests against that will be ignored.

Comments

And Odessa? WTF over!

Posted by: 5jumpchump | Aug 16 2025 13:22 utc | 1

No, the Blob won’t be giving up just yet. They’ll discuss it, but they’ll also discuss killing a number of people, and the overthrow of others.
This is a process. Trump’s confab is critical, but only for what it triggers, not for any output. The Blob is nowhere near done with triggers… on their guns. They got hundreds of millions of eurocucks onside, and millions of merc hohols to die yet.

Posted by: seer | Aug 16 2025 13:29 utc | 2

Exactly, B. Both sides could afford to be very pleasant to each other: President Trump doesn’t actually care about the territorial integrity of the Ukraine, and President VVP would be eager for a chance to punish the various globalist governments who started this war.
Zelensky and the EU will reject any terms reached, of course, but they have to be sweating. If one of the deals is “the US will not support Article 5 declarations after aggressive EU action,” most current European governments are absolutely doomed.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Aug 16 2025 13:30 utc | 3

Sanctions: “Well, because the meeting went so well, we don’t have to think about that now.” Now is the window for Trump to walk away, let Europe go to the mat if it has the stomach for it. How long will it take for Trump’s compulsion to BS everyone dig himself another hole that he can’t get out of?

Posted by: Mike R | Aug 16 2025 13:32 utc | 4

So Trump’s “win” was getting out of the trap his own mouth put him in? Makes sense, knowing how he works and under what DS restrictions, but a weird display of deal making on the world stage, no?

Posted by: Caliman | Aug 16 2025 13:36 utc | 5

In general, the Russian government would like to see sanctions lifted.
Now assume you are Russian, and have a small company.
You wish to invest in a durable good, a machine that will help your business for years to come.
Does it make sense to buy US, European, Japanese or Korean?
If it’s something you buy once, and once you’ve got it, it works and keeps on working, why not?
But if it’s something that needs regular maintenance – software updates, consumables, support – better not.
Because from one day to the next, sanctions may appear and make your investment worthless.
Once bitten, twice shy. Even if sanctions are lifted tomorrow, the prospects of long-term trade with Russia have been harmed.

Posted by: Passerby | Aug 16 2025 13:39 utc | 6

Of course the kosher Nazi will reject any peace agreement. That goes without saying since the bandaRats have his piano “finger” in a vise. The question is if Trump has the room to maneuver now to use that as an excuse to extract the US from the fight. It would be a waste of the narrative capital Trump has won to not take advantage of this opportunity.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 16 2025 13:40 utc | 7

The Duran: Alaska Summit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWfHm0ekqY
“Next time in Moscow.”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 16 2025 13:53 utc | 8

>>> “take advantage of this opportunity.”
Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 16 2025 13:40 utc | 7
.
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What opportunity has arisen? Today is same same as Thursday, isn’t it (Other than the Blob and TDSers are seething extra hard)?
Body count likely stable. Same field reports. Same number of galician nazis fleeing with their cash hoard. Same Russian milgeeks seeking best practices to keep Russians alive while killing nazis. Same same, no?

Posted by: seer | Aug 16 2025 13:53 utc | 9

Trump has a problem at home which this meeting will solve. Or is intended to help solve.
That problem would be his congress.
More specifically, leading members of his own party in the congress who hate Russia.
They are the ones who are determined to injure Russia by sending money and weapons to Ukraine.
Trump must create an impression in the eye of the “grass roots” voting public that Russia is a friend of the US. If he can achieve that perception, he will have isolated the congressional Russia haters.
I think this trip has achieved that impression.

Posted by: Johnny Dollar | Aug 16 2025 13:55 utc | 10

TrumpTeamTrix are in a rush. Russia’s advances are accelerating.
The U$ intel assessment is probably that Ukraine will collapse within a month.
Green t-shirt is too stupid to realise this.
The U$ needs to run, not walk, away from Ukraine before it becomes another Afghanistan (Vietnam) “retreat”.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 16 2025 13:56 utc | 11

The Duran – ‘Next Time in Moscow’ (corrected)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWfHm0e-kqY

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 16 2025 13:56 utc | 12

SHOCKED< SHOCKED !! The Cold Warriors invited to corporate media in Europe … Carl Bildt .. former UK Defence ministers Liam Fox – Hodges – Wallace … the conservative forces of the past. Kyiv representatives repeating NATO war rhetoric of recent history. European leaders already threw the wrench I the peace narrative of Trump-Putin by promising more war before it’s ended. From their statement …

We are clear that Ukraine must have ironclad security guarantees to effectively defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity. We welcome President Trump’s statement that the US is prepared to give security guarantees.
[Essence to reach peace address the root causes – throwing the wrench into the preliminary process of U.S.-Russia]
The Coalition of the Willing is ready to play an active role. No limitations should be placed on Ukraine’s armed forces or on its cooperation with third countries. Russia cannot have a veto against Ukraine‘s pathway to EU and NATO.
It will be up to Ukraine to make decisions on its territory. International borders must not be changed by force.

Don’t yet grasp the contours of the playing field and the out of bounds 😊

Posted by: Oui | Aug 16 2025 13:57 utc | 13

It sounds like Trump has accepted Putin/Russia’s premises.
(For now . . .)
I like Sebastian Sas’s point regarding minerals and rare earths:
Why would Trump continue trying to navigate a complicated situation in Ukraine just to get his mitts on some minerals in the Donbass when he surely has visions of sugar plums dancing in his head of the vast mineral riches of Russia, which might be much easier for him/the USA to access via a deal than the highly compromised (already married to Britain/Blackrock), much smaller offering of the Ukraine?

Posted by: Jane | Aug 16 2025 14:02 utc | 14

Other than we’re all pretty much alive (unless you’re Palestinian) all I can say is what a waste of jet fuel. Obviously the Russians know any agreement with the US is crap, no hope of trusting what Hunter Thompson termed “atavistic swine”.

Posted by: Space Cowboy | Aug 16 2025 14:05 utc | 15

Well thank God that’s over.
In the next episode of “Life with the Drumps”:
    Binnon comes back with a gift and upsets Lindsoy. Drump chokes on a yellow cardboard Vince hid in his food as a prank and then shouts “that yellow bastard!” all over the internet offending China who is still annoyed by everything Drump did. To make up they all decide to arrange another picnic but Big Bad Bill is still on the loose and stalking them.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Aug 16 2025 14:10 utc | 16

Just as many on this board predicted there was no ceasefire agreement.
But more importantly after the summit the agreement was that the ball is now in Volo’s court.
Surrender massive territory or lose everything……your choice. Choose wisely…..

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 16 2025 14:11 utc | 17

Presser ramble
https://files.catbox.moe/axygzr.mp4
———
The cohort of Gen Z Russian journalist will forever remember the privations they were subjected to when they overnighted in Anchorage.
Billeted in a sports stadium on fold up Red Cross disaster relief camp beds.
Two to a room, partitioned by curtains.
Quelle horreur, slow internet and few places to charge their myriad devices.
And an attempt of murder by salmonella as some very dodgy tuna slop was left out for “breakfast”. They’d dined on succulent chicken Kiev on the plane over, only to be given small pieces of fruit and packets of chips for breakfast.
These youngsters, who’d grown up in the Putin era of plenty, had never known suffering like it.
No doubt the images beamed back to Moscow, St Pete, and Nizhny Novgorod, among others, had their grandparents smirking at the youngster’s reaction to the Alaskan austerity.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 16 2025 14:13 utc | 18

Thanks for the posting b…quite the shit show, eh?
I don’t see where Trump really won anything but is now the rudder between Russia and the current West heading.
If Ukraine really gets to decide its own fate then why does Z have to go see Trump for directions?
I see Russia taking Odessa now before the “conditional surrender” by the piano pecker puppet.
What are the implications from this event on the other parts of our civilization war?
Lots of moving parts meeting frozen parts and causing tension, eh?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 16 2025 14:14 utc | 19

I’m not sure what the quid pro quo would be other than Russia itself, since it’s off the menu for the EU for the foreseeable future as a trading partner. I.e. What the US wanted all along.

Posted by: Ludovic | Aug 16 2025 14:18 utc | 20

Trump and Putin talking also signals to underlings that it’s OK to talk to your Russian homologue, with caution.

Posted by: Passerby | Aug 16 2025 14:19 utc | 21

Thank you b.
When usa retreated from Afganistan it was to concentrate resources for Ukraine proxy war against RF. Now they are retreating from Ukraine to concentrate resources ( menpower, weapons) either for greater israel/ against Iran and resistance, or against China.
Personally I think it will be Middle East first, as a step one on the way to China, and than circle back to RF. israel needs all the mercs and weapons, about 250 000 (from israeli press).
From:
https://themarathoninitiative.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Strategic-Sequencing-Revisited-Final-2024-10.pdf
‘The Logic of Sequencing
The idea of sequencing is simply to concentrate resources against one opponent in order
to weaken its disruptive energies before turning to another, either to deter or defeat it.
Sequencing is necessary because power is not infinite. For even the strongest of states, it
is bounded by all kinds of things: distance, money, attention span. By dealing decisively
with one opponent before other threats have fully manifested, a great power seeks to
avoid a situation where either its military resources are stretched too thin and it suffers
catastrophic defeat, or it has to shoulder the financial burdens of ramping up for a
sustained war against all enemies in all directions concurrently, with concomitant competition by manipulating the factor of time.”
At the moment:
‘America’s strategic range of choice going forward will be heavily shaped by what it and
its allies have done or not done in the precious window that is now closing. If we fail,
whether by choice or drift, to effectively execute a sequencing strategy, our options will
narrow to a handful of alternatives, all of which carry significant downsides
1) Outgrow the problem. The most attractive option would be to mount a massive
defense buildup aimed at ensuring that America is equipped to deter and if
necessary fight all of its adversaries simultaneously. Under this scenario, the
United States would expand the defense budget by a factor of two or more and
return to a 2 or 2.5 war standard.The reason this approach hasn’t already been
attempted is that it generates tradeoffs that are politically and financially
difficult.
2) Prioritize Asia. A second option is to prioritize the Indo-Pacific in U.S. military
and diplomatic attention and let the chips fall where they Pacific might have the added benefit of prompting the Europeans to take greater responsibility for conventional defense in their region. But such a move also carries considerable risks. Coming at a moment before the Europeans are ready
to shoulder a greater defense burden, it might enable Russia to enlarge its gains
in Ukraine and bring direct pressure to bear on the NATO frontier, which would
then draw in more U.S. military attention to Europe. A Ukrainian collapse,
following on the heels of the calamitous Afghanistan withdrawal, could do
lasting damage to America’s reputation among allies and adversaries alike in all
of the world’s regions.
3. Offensive sequencing. A third option discussed in some circles would be to try to
mitigate the multi-front dilemma by launching a military attack against Iran.
The idea would be to take decisive action against the weakest of America’s large
opponents, thereby alleviating the pressure on one imperiled ally (Israel) and
freeing up bandwidth for other theaters. The obvious problem is that such a
move would likely backfire, with potentially catastrophic results. Modern Iran is
not 1990s Iraq; it’s a near-nuclear power linked by pseudo alliances to both China
and Russia. Attacking Iran could trigger a wider Middle East war that could
escalate in unpredictable ways and require the United States to redirect may in Europe and the
Middle East. The rationale would be that we have done what we can to help
Ukraine and would be wise to husband our available strength for a contest with our strongest competitor. A reorientation of U.S. military resources to …..
etc.etc
Sorry if long…

Posted by: stranger | Aug 16 2025 14:20 utc | 22

I think that Trump has to get out of Ukrain simply because the USA cupboard is bare. They simply can’t afford it. If z refuses the deal then no more us weapons. So what is the deal.
1 Crimea, 2 luhansk, 3 donetsk, 4 kherson, most of zaporizhia but not the capital, 6 neutrality, possibly votes in the rest of the place. Not really a good deal for Russia but perhaps better than a very long war.

Posted by: Watcher | Aug 16 2025 14:24 utc | 23

Alaska was the culmination of RussiaGate, it’s clear to see:
Imagined Trump/Putin huddle during RussiaGate:
“Hang tough bro, our day will come, whence our revenge will be complete, their gnashing of teeth sweet music to our ears”
Now for the cherry on top, the coming lawfare against complicit Democrats.
Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to decieve. Sir Walter Scott.

Posted by: mrh | Aug 16 2025 14:24 utc | 24

They Call Me Mister | Aug 16 2025 13:30 utc | 3–
The “globalist government” that initiated the War against Russian speaking Ukrainians was exclusively the Outlaw US Empire–recall Nuland’s “Fuck the EU”!
As for the root cause, IMO it’s the ongoing Cold War that never ceased against USSR/Russia in 1990 of which NATO expansion is a part. Escobar, Sleboda will be joined by Haiphong at 11am Eastern here to provide their analysis. Pepe already provided a short synopsis for Sputnik I linked to on the previous thread, and has also done one for RT here. The resolution of this very longstanding war will take several years beyond whatever solution is arrived at in Ukraine. The most important change that must occur over those years is for the Outlaw US Empire to cease being an Outlaw along with its European colonies. It appears an initial step along the path to an ultimate global peace has commenced, but IMO it’s best not to hold one’s breath or get too overconfident because the Neoliberal/Neocon Parasites will fight the attempt so they can continue to reap their rents.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 16 2025 14:24 utc | 25

There were a few summit agenda items that *flew* under the radar.. one being restoration of direct flights from Russia to the U$, and reverse.
That is a HUUUUge advantage to aviation.
The Europeans will want a piece of that as one of the first SanctionsFromHell™️ was to restrict Russian access to airspace.
The Russians went for reciprocal arrangements and several budget airlines in the west went bankrupt.
No one had looked at a globe and realised avoiding almost half the airspace in the northern hemisphere would be expensive in extra fuel costs and hours in the air.
———-
There was a tweet from a Sky News journo that he hadn’t realised Russia and the U$ shared a border.
What’s the Twainism? Better to remain silent rather than seek social media clout by tweeting your ignorance to a global audience:
https://nitter.net/WillKingston/status/1956282899847680381

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 16 2025 14:26 utc | 26

seer @9: “What opportunity has arisen?”
The narrative “Russia = enemy! Russia = threat to America!” has been at least temporarily neutralized. That gives Trump some room to move.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 16 2025 14:27 utc | 27

This is a BIG win for Russia. Putin got the red carpet treatment. He dared go deep into Trump’s turf and stood tall. Russia will officially no longer be shunned and disrespected. Though Russia may not yet be recognized as a peer competitor, its interests can no longer be ignored, as the US has done for the past 35 years. The neocons’ New American Century project has been critically wounded.
Trump did well, too. He seems to have behaved himself and actually showed some dignity and grace. The media event came off without a glitch. He projected an image of strength, never verbally acknowledging Russia’s emergence.
As for the Europeans, those spoiled little sycophants, they are outraged that their haughty air of self-importance has been affronted and disrespected. Now there is an acknowledged, powerful, new kid on the block, who must be recognized and dealt with constructively.
A multi-power world is officially here.

Posted by: JohnH | Aug 16 2025 14:37 utc | 28

My opinion is the summit was beneficial. Better to have had it than not. Let’s be fair, Trump went through with it and will take a lot of heat for it. And some are saying he looked out of his league a bit. And that’s understandable, Putin is a strong leader. Just the same, if we were talking about a reality tv game show Putin would have looked out of his too.

Posted by: chunga | Aug 16 2025 14:40 utc | 29

“ Trump acknowledged that a ceasefire was not possible and that the war needs to end with an all-encompassing peace agreement:”
———-
Does DJT understand that the US is the main party involved in this all encompassing peace agreement? Or does he believe that it is Ukraine and EU problem?

Posted by: scc | Aug 16 2025 14:41 utc | 30

It is interesting to watch every commentator spin the meeting towards their bias. Russian, European, MAGA.
The memes that I have seen are quite poor.
The status quo was reinforced.
Putin and Russia won’t bow to NATO.
The West cannot tolerate peace.
Now the Empire is eyeing Venezuela and Iran.
Systems of oppression require victims and there are few easy targets today.
A Chinese future awaits.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 16 2025 14:42 utc | 31

Anatoli Sharij
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOHFxLr9T9Q
“The main meeting of the 21st century.”
Ukrainian dissident politician in exile in Spain gives his impressions of the Putin-Trump summit.

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 16 2025 14:44 utc | 32

Let’s be honest.
Trump saw those fun pics of bros Putin and Kim Jong Un chucking donuts in a gifted Aurus in Best Korea, and he wanted in on that action.
MSNBC/CNN journos lost their minds when Putin got a ride in The Beast.
Wait till they see that historic pic of Putin riding in an open carriage through London with Queen Liz.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 16 2025 14:44 utc | 33

Is there still time for assassination?
Many here predicted some trouble for Putin and even Trump
It all looked rather jolly and collegiate to me but of course I’m just a punter not a laser focused geopolitical guru as many here are

Posted by: will moon | Aug 16 2025 14:45 utc | 34

Well, I was partially correct about Putin making an inspection trip to the Far East/Arctic on his way to the Summit. I reported his stop in Magadan, and he now has flown to Chukotka for a meeting with its governor, which I’ll also report about. IMO, it’s possible Putin will make further stops on his way back to Moscow. IMO, it’s very clear that Putin is and has been doing the very things Trump can only dream about regarding national development.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 16 2025 14:45 utc | 35

The hero of the summit for me were the regular schmoes they brought out to vacuum and clean the stage before everyone arrived- this was about an hour before the planes landed, yet there were live feeds being broadcast around the world. They had audio turned on, which made it even better as you could hear the banality of the conversations “you want a coffee?? No, I think potus will be coming in somewhere over there, idk, lol We doing darts after this?” that kind of thing. Anyway, dude with the vacuum cleaner was probably watched by literally hundreds of millions of people around the world and is now in every intelligence agency’s humint database. My new hero. And like anything you had the last minute pointless hand-wringing over meaningless details “no no, we have to move the sign down OFF the stage you fools, not keep it up here!”
If anything it showed how quickly this had all been thrown together. It had the genuine feel of a very organic event where everyone was just kind of winging it, which was exactly what it was. Now prediction time! For a genuine peace agreement to happen, I predict the following two events need to occur;
1) RF needs to continue decisively winning on the ground. This means the LOC continuing to expand westward and the RF successfully taking;
-Pokrovsk pocket
-Konstaninovka pocket
-Seversk/yampil pocket (bonus points for Liman)
-Kupyansk pocket
2) RF needs to be able to handle the next big Ukrainian “spoiler” whatever it may be. There are at least one or two more big ones in the hopper. It may be another offensive onto traditional RF territory (bryansk) or something big and sensational, the oft touted daring raid to take NPP. Maybe it’s another deep behind the lines attack against strategic infrastructure, something chemical or god forbid nuclear, who knows. But whatever it is, Russia has to be able to take it or mitigate it without being seriously set back. The spoilers that Ukraine has launched so far have a mixed success rate but one thing for sure is they did prolong the conflict.
If the above 2 things happen, it’ll continue to erode away at the support for the die-hard Atlanticists “fight Russia down to the very last Ukrainian!” faction. There will still be foaming at the mouth die-hards advocating for Brzezinski’s plan- but if the RF can keep winning and make it apparent that the LOC is only going to keep moving west, that Russia’s economy isn’t going to collapse and they’re not going to run out of weapons, people or motivation- most of the more level headed folks WILL throw in the towel and go for peace. Or at least one can hope.

Posted by: Clown Shoes | Aug 16 2025 14:47 utc | 36

RF demands are unchanged and were not rejected by DJT either.
Huge win here for the VVP group. The demands are the same all four oblasts, plus Crimea, plus Odessa and all Black Sea ports, plus the land bridge to Transnistria (remember the Krajina!).
But NATO is counter attacking, now attempting to overthrow RF ally Serbia and Serb Bosnia with a color revolution. So the UK NATO neo cons can never be counted on for anything but duplicity.
Massive riots now underway nightly in Serbia, all paid for by the Soros-CIA-MI6 group. This coup attempt needs to be put down and put down hard.

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 16 2025 14:49 utc | 37

The clown in chief of U$$A should have buttoned his suit coat
.
If the clown cares about lives he should stop sending targets to the Nazis.
Kiev cannot be a dagger held at the throat of Russia.

Posted by: paddy | Aug 16 2025 14:52 utc | 38

Putin was the last person Trump talked to, so he understands Putin’s perspective and publicly shares it. Next week he may well be spouting off about secondary sanctions. The summit was exactly what it was intended to be: a media event. That’s what Trump craves and Putin used it to get face to face time.
There’s a very slight chance that Trump understands the situation now, specifically that Russia is not going to agree to a ceasefire but demands a comprehensive solution to the underlying issues. But that doesn’t matter because the EU/Kiev side won’t agree to it. The former because they’re drunk on their own piss and the latter because the current leadership on Bankova St can’t. That’s a simple matter of self-preservation.

Posted by: Lex | Aug 16 2025 14:54 utc | 39

Space Cowboy@14:05
“.. what Hunter Thompson termed..”
What do you make of the allegations claiming Dr Gonzo was a producer of child snuff movies?
(Named in sworn statements made by Paul Bonacci to Gary Caradorri, the investigator hired by Nebraskan State Legislature to ascertain whether allegations of abuse perpetrated on minors were true – known to history as the Franklin Scandal)

Posted by: will moon | Aug 16 2025 14:59 utc | 40

Posted by: stranger | Aug 16 2025 14:20 utc | 22
I hope you are not serious.. Americans are falling behind while you military types are out playing war..
the problem is to rebuild the capacity of Americans to compete in the world.. That means educating our worst to their highest attainable levels and promoting our best to invent new horizons as often as possible. Its means eliminating not fostering privately owned monopoly power..
The more resources directed to military the weaker becomes America. Alaska proved the world does not need more war..and the reason for that is the weapons have become so powerful no one can survive..

Posted by: snake | Aug 16 2025 15:01 utc | 41

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 16 2025 14:45 utc | 35
#######
Russia is a proper country with a genuine leader.
Shades of how comrade Xi operates.
Americans and Europeans cannot imagine it.
Bifurcated reality.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 16 2025 15:02 utc | 42

the highly respected Secretary General of NATO

Somebody calling you “daddy” deserves no respect. All that is left is ridicule, and it shows.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 16 2025 15:02 utc | 43

>>> “The narrative “Russia = enemy! Russia = threat to America!” has been at least temporarily neutralized. That gives Trump some room to move.” <<< Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 16 2025 14:27 utc | 27 . . No, the Blob's corporate media will preclude this neutralization you speak of. Russia is the Blob's enemy. End of. Russia has to deal with the Blob. Friday was just the prefight ring instructions from referee Trump. Nothing happened, but we'll see what happens. Trump received no room to maneuver, and it wouldn't do him any good if he did. He's just the ref, or is trying to be. If Trump cut off Ukraine completely, yeah, that'd qualify as getting something done here. He may even start that, although the Blob can stymie him for sure.

Posted by: seer | Aug 16 2025 15:03 utc | 44

GD: Michael von der Schulenburg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjkVbKWrqh4
“I think this summit was extremely, extremely successful.”
ex-German MP and diplomat reflects on the summit and current problems. ‘One has to try to understand the other side’.

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 16 2025 15:03 utc | 45

Read my lips “No ceasefire’. That’s what Alaska was all about. Now Europe, put up or shut up. No more money from uncle Sam cos he’s broke and knows this ain’t going nowhere, no more ammo cos the cupboard is bare, no more bodies cos they’re all dead or done a runner. What more do the private bankers of Europe need to understand about their war against Russia?

Posted by: Ogre | Aug 16 2025 15:03 utc | 46

I see nothing to convince me that the US is capable of good-faith negotiation, particularly with Russia.
Nothing has changed in the broad geopolitical strategy of the US to encircle Russia, neutralize it, and then pivot toward China. The recent agreement between Azerbaijan and Armenia for a US-controlled transport alley across the northern border of Iran is just one more piece of that, along with the ongoing attempts for a Color Revolution in Slovakia.
The US empire is facing the same crisis today that it faced last year and back to 2001, which is that its ability to project power is weakening while other nations are growing stronger. I cannot imagine it will relax its efforts to damage Russia economically and politically.
Still, I would love to see an end to the war in Ukraine.

Posted by: Clever Dog | Aug 16 2025 15:05 utc | 47

So the puppeteer is going to tell his sock puppet to make a deal.
The real question is – whose sock puppet is Trump himself?

Posted by: Derrick | Aug 16 2025 15:07 utc | 48

I just know that VVP got bored 18 minutes into meeting JDT which is a record given that it takes him 12 minutes to read anyone’s mind.
JDT had nothing to offer and he was VOZ to bear the costs without counting them.
The Zionist Jews who went there left unpleased. And yes there was no tea and no lunch either.

Posted by: pepe | Aug 16 2025 15:08 utc | 49

“The task of ending the conflict was tossed off to Zelensky and Europe”
Should Poland, Romania, Finland and all the other European countries who joined NATO after 1990 declare that they leave the organisation?
And besides stepping down Selenskij can do nothing to end this conflict.

Posted by: Apollyon | Aug 16 2025 15:09 utc | 50

@sser #2, #9
The Deep State was not present. That is a signal: no Lindsey Graham, no Keith Kellogg.
The Europeans were not present. That is another signal: no Rutte, no Starmer, no Macron, no Merz.
And the Ukrainians were not present. No Zelensky or anyone else.
This is a first step, true, but obviously you just don’t understand the implications of the above.
These include:
1) The Europeans don’t matter.
They will not be driving the US position on Ukraine.
They were given the opportunity to support Ukraine directly – they have failed utterly.
2) Ukraine/Zelensky don’t matter.
Zelensky won’t be driving the US position on Ukraine.
3) The neocons had their shot – air base attacks, massive drone attacks into pre-SMO Russia, secondary sanctions to try and peel off BRICS members, etc etc.
These have all failed; now it is time for a different approach.
Mercouris and Christoforou are almost certainly correct: Zelensky is coming to Washington to be told to make a deal.
No deal, then he and Ukraine will be cut loose.
Trump and Putin were very careful to say “Biden’s War” and “No SMO if Trump were President”, respectively.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 16 2025 15:10 utc | 51

I could understand that the US waged war against Russia using Ukraine as proxy. That continues.
Therefore I don’t understand how Trump’s assertion that the matter is now for Zelensky and the US’s poodles in Europe to settle, constitutes some sort of victory for Russia. It never was about Ukraine versus Russia; it was always the US’s war against Russia. Trump could have ended the war at any time.

Posted by: Vragtes | Aug 16 2025 15:13 utc | 52

Perfectly matches the third scenario Glenn Diessen outlined in the following article:

Outsourcing the containment of Russia
Transforming relations with Russia does not require an end to America’s hegemonic ambitions or a cessation of all hostilities. Biden aimed to restore U.S. hegemony by defeating Russia through a Ukrainian proxy, which would have allowed the U.S. to focus its resources on confronting China. However, the war has been lost, and Trump now wants to split the two Eurasian giants by improving ties with Russia.
Yet, the ideal scenario for America’s pursuit of hegemonic ambitions would be to maintain friendly relations with Russia in Asia, while continuing containment efforts in Europe. This could be achieved through a new division of labour that outsources the containment of Russia to the Europeans, which enables the US to continue killing of Russians and to maintain European subservience. The objective in Alaska would then be to detach the U.S. from the war altogether, which would keep the Europeans in the fight.

https://glenndiesen.substack.com/p/thaw-in-alaska-what-to-expect-from

Posted by: Zet | Aug 16 2025 15:16 utc | 53

seer @44: “…the Blob’s corporate media will preclude this neutralization you speak of.”
They will try. Something the presstitution industry has become acutely aware of as of late is that they don’t have the narrative traction they used to have. They have to be very careful of spinning their wheels because each time they do they lose more eyeballs.
Of course, they will try to reestablish Russia as the Baddie du Jour, but for the time being Trump is immune to their bullshit. He needs to use this opportunity while it lasts.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 16 2025 15:16 utc | 54

The “globalist government” that initiated the War against Russian speaking Ukrainians was exclusively the Outlaw US Empire–recall Nuland’s “Fuck the EU”!
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 16 2025 14:24 utc | 25
Then it should be very easy for the EU to back away from the war. As the weekend has shown, they’re doubling down- absurdly so, really. It’s not going to actually sway President Trump, never mind make the EU a respectable military alliance. Ironically, even Britain has more theoretical freedom to stay out of Russia’s way.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Aug 16 2025 15:25 utc | 55

The significance of meeting in Alaska was that it’s how the US can go to Russia without involving Europe.
I suspect it was Putin’s idea.
Go West old man.

Posted by: Bill Jones | Aug 16 2025 15:25 utc | 56

🇪🇺🇺🇦 EU and UK leaders have ruled out any restrictions on arms supplies to Kiev or any retreat from Ukraine’s path toward EU and NATO membership.
This was stated in a joint declaration by the heads of France, Germany, the UK, Poland, and Italy.

the summit may have been a good start, but with these fascists from the eu, peace is not an option unfortunately. looks just like a repeat from something that happened some 80 years ago.
ashamed that my german regime still has those revanchist tendencies.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 16 2025 15:26 utc | 57

Posted by: Zet | Aug 16 2025 15:16 utc | 53
######$
Sounds like Berletic’s thesis which is based on policy white papers.
It’s very hard to find any EuroBros with unique insights, even in the alt-sphere.
The bottom line is that America is increasingly feeble and needs someone else to do the heavy trying. Tragically for the Judeo-Christians, Europe is too weak to provide meaningful help.
A bunch of MAGA Boomers with water pistols imagining a legendary bear hunt.
They are much better at killing and sexually abusing children.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 16 2025 15:28 utc | 58

Syriana Analysis: Cold War 2.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r4yVlyi8WA
“Alaska summit on Ukraine explained.”
Kevork Almassian and Tarik Cyril Amar analyze and discuss.

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 16 2025 15:29 utc | 59

Heavy *lifting*

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 16 2025 15:29 utc | 60

Putin is back in Moscow and has given a report to his Team, the preamble being the only part revealed by the Kremlin.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 16 2025 15:37 utc | 61

I hope you are not serious.. Americans are falling behind while you military types are out playing war..
the problem is to rebuild the capacity of Americans to compete in the world.. That means educating our worst to their highest attainable levels and promoting our best to invent new horizons as often as possible. Its means eliminating not fostering privately owned monopoly power..
The more resources directed to military the weaker becomes America. Alaska proved the world does not need more war..and the reason for that is the weapons have become so powerful no one can survive..
Posted by: snake | Aug 16 2025 15:01 utc | 41
I am serious. TPTB are not working on behalf of your citizens, the quest for hegemony will never allow it.
This created image of US as the sudden peacemaker, and Europe trying to oppose the process is a lie.
The us has delegated them the continuation of the war on Russia, while it has to extract itself to focus on Middle East/ greater israel and then China, I believe in that order.
Hegseth speach extract from February ( ‘peace is war’ parody):
As the United States prioritizes its attention to these threats, European allies must lead from the front.
Together, we can establish a division of labor that maximizes our comparative advantages in Europe and Pacific respectively.
In my first weeks as Secretary of Defense, under President Trump’s leadership, we’ve seen promising signs that Europe sees this threat, understands what needs to be done, and is stepping up to the task.
For example, Sweden recently announced its largest ever assistance package. We applaud them for committing $1.2 billion in ammunition and other needed materiel.
Poland is spending 5% of GDP on defense already, which is a model for the continent.
And 14 countries are co-leading Capability Coalitions. These groups are doing great work to coordinate Europe’s contributions of lethal assistance across eight key capability areas.
These are first steps. More must still be done.
We ask each of your countries to step up on fulfilling the commitments that you have made. And we challenge your countries, and your citizens, to double down and re-commit yourselves not only to Ukraine’s immediate security needs, but to Europe’s long-term defense and deterrence goals, blah blah blah etc end quote
Thus, division of labor, and transfer of war with Russia to european territory, while Russia and usa promise they will not strike each other.
Trump is just a executioner of the orders, and Zelenski has no agency from the beginning as the war has started as usa war on Russia. Thus the ‘opposition’ of EU to ‘peacemaking’ is a deceit.
Have to go out now.

Posted by: stranger | Aug 16 2025 15:37 utc | 62

🇪🇺🇺🇦 EU and UK leaders have ruled out any restrictions on arms supplies to Kiev or any retreat from Ukraine’s path toward EU and NATO membership.
This was stated in a joint declaration by the heads of France, Germany, the UK, Poland, and Italy.
<=Could be, leaders who don't know when they have been defeated, will keep promoting their wrongs long enough to be thrown out with the trash. I will never forgive Europe for forcing Americans to shed blood in Europe's war to steal the oil beneath the Ottoman empire and to block German progress from competing in the world. This time European wealth may have to fight its own war.

Posted by: snake | Aug 16 2025 15:37 utc | 63

thanks b..
i think the meeting was mildly productive… i think the conflict is centered on the brits and to a lesser extent euro leaders, calling the shots with zelensky and wanting to allow ukraine to be a part of nato in some way..
i would like to quote glenn diesen from yesterday – “The main problem of our era in terms of reducing the security competition derives from the inability to recognise the security concerns of our opponents. Why did we criminalise understanding?”
until europe and the usa acknowledge russias security concerns – and we are a long ways off with regard britian and europe leaders – this conflict will continue.. the military, banking and energy complex all profit from nato and it’s threat of wars and fears around security..
i don’t see the brits letting go of their agenda even if zelensky is removed.. they have to replace him with another similar cutout to continue with their agenda…
as for trump – he appears to be trying, but not sure he can go against his own blob – wall st, military and energy complex.. it seems he would like to pass this mess off to brits/europe.. i wish him luck in this regard!
@ Lex | Aug 16 2025 14:54 utc | 39
i share your perspective.. thanks for articulating all that..

Posted by: james | Aug 16 2025 15:38 utc | 64

So- Zelensky, Rutte, and various other European leaders all agreed that a ceasefire was unnecessary and we need to go straight to a peace agreement?
Cool story, bro. I hope Trump can force it on them.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 16 2025 15:39 utc | 65

@ wagelaborer | Aug 16 2025 15:39 utc | 65
no.. that is the problem.. they want a ceasefire to regroup and continue the death of more ukrainians/mercenaries/russians.. they are unwilling or unable to acknowledge russias security concerns.. this is what got us here in the first place and they are unable to acknowledge any responsibility for what is happening at present.. they don’t want to acknowledge any of it, as it interferes with the profits there masters tell them they demand.. the politicians are a load of crap in europe and there are no conversations to be had, as my quote from glenn diesen @ 64 highlights..

Posted by: james | Aug 16 2025 15:43 utc | 66

Thanks b,
On Monday pm, Trump should remind Zelinsky that Ukraines’policy in the Dombass was one quasi-racial and apartheid like.
Consequently, The governing circles in Ukraine should be happy to get rid of inférior, Russian-speaking human beings !

Posted by: Dany | Aug 16 2025 15:44 utc | 67

Tobias,
Serbia official state policy is strict neutrality.

Posted by: Exile | Aug 16 2025 15:45 utc | 68

Trump’s “to do” list.
So, you want to end the conflict?
No ceasefire, only a comprehensive settlement that meets Russian security requirements.
Sell this to the European states/NATO bloc.
Make Zelensky agree to this and get the rada to change the constitution, then hold elections.
Once a new government is in place with a legitimate head of state then the comprehensive deal can be signed and ratified by Ukraine.
Get to it bro

Posted by: the pessimist | Aug 16 2025 15:46 utc | 69

Posted by: snake | Aug 16 2025 15:37 utc | 63
Whole speech of Hegseth to EU, February 2025:
https://www.defense.gov/News/Speeches/Speech/article/4064113/opening-remarks-by-secretary-of-defense-pete-hegseth-at-ukraine-defense-contact/
Division of labor fro strategic sequencing of future wars.
Alaska was never a peace making endevour, just another lie of the ugly hegemon. Currently capable of taking on their enemies only one by one.

Posted by: stranger | Aug 16 2025 15:46 utc | 70

Most EU leaders remain faithful to the endsieg . They really want a good war.

Posted by: Exile | Aug 16 2025 15:46 utc | 71

Stranger,
How are the anti-genocider activities coming among this Holiday season ?
SFSN

Posted by: Exile | Aug 16 2025 15:48 utc | 72

It looks like the Alaska summit was a ‘Win-Win’.
It was a big win for Russia. Both the pressure for an immediate cease-fire and the threat of ‘secondary sanctions’ were removed.
It was a win for ‘MAGA-US’. The scheme to ‘buy’ an immediate cease-fire in exchange for opening up commercial relations seems to have failed. However, Trump appears (or so he thinks) to have escaped the trap of either ‘secondary sanctions’ which would be very harmful to the US or directly joining the war against Russia. Having escaped this trap, Trump now sees a path to walking away from the Ukraine problem.
On the other hand, judging by the panic that I see in Western media, it looks to be a complete disaster for the ‘British Empire Elites’ and their vassals (UK, EU, US Deep-State, etc.). They needed either an immediate cease-fire to re-arm and restart the war at a more opportune time (perhaps when Trump leaves the scene (again)), or to drag the U.S. directly into war against Russia. For them, the results of the summit could not have been worse.

Posted by: dh-mtl | Aug 16 2025 15:50 utc | 73

@ Posted by: stranger | Aug 16 2025 14:20 utc | 22
Thanks, that’s an interesting document from The Marathon Initiative (https://themarathoninitiative.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Strategic-Sequencing-Revisited-Final-2024-10.pdf). It almost reads like a Rand report. It’s worth noting that one of the group’s co-founders, Elsbridge Colby, is presently Trump’s Under-Secretary of Defense for Policy.
He describes himself as a realist in foreign policy, while his overall ideology fits with neoconservative goals (i.e., USA über Alles), with just a bit less emphasis on actively invading other countries. The more rabid neoconservatives seem to think he’s not hawkish enough, and Mitch McConnell even voted against his confirmation (probably on account of not being hawkish enough on China to please Elaine Chao, McConnell’s Chinese wife). However, the masthead of The Marathon Initiative is a roll-call of neoconservatives, including Edward Luttwak, Robert Kaplan, Nadia Schadlow, and Walter Slocombe. The rest of the crew are pointed in the same direction: apologists and strategists for maintaining the fading US empire.

Posted by: Clever Dog | Aug 16 2025 15:51 utc | 74

Posted by: james | Aug 16 2025 15:43 utc | 66
I was quoting Trump, as reporte above. I don’t believe it either, but I assume the plan is to browbeat them into it.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 16 2025 15:51 utc | 75

Melaleuca @ 26

There were a few summit agenda items that *flew* under the radar.. one being restoration of direct flights from Russia to the U$, and reverse. That is a HUUUUge advantage to aviation.

Not just to aviation, nothing-burger on the outside but nobody goes through all this trouble for nothing. Trump gave Russia and Putin image rehabilitation, Putin gave something Trump and crew live for, money, actually he helped untangle powerful USAvbusinesses from the Biden-Nuland easy-peasy, in-three-months-Russia-will-collapse sanctions debacle, so in addition to what Melaleuca listed you can add this below, there are very likely more of these deals that will or will not come to light.
I don’t follow msm but looking through TG seems Trump is taking a lot of heat for rehabilitating Russia and Putin and coming away with a take-out nothing-burger (the Alaska lunch was canceled) so I give him credit for taking the heat, not everyone has the courage to come home after work to the wife and kids with a bag of take-out nothing-burgers. I don’t think he did it for world peace, he did it to accomodate USA big business, this Alaska summit and de-Russiaphobing was the price Russia demanded, Russians like money too so likely they or the BRICS got something in terms of secondary sanctions relief but that’s precarious for Trump (who’s busy sanctioning allies) and will have to be revealed stealthily.

On the day of his meeting with Trump, Putin signed a decree that could pave the way for the return of the largest American oil company Exxon Mobil to the “Sakhalin-1” project.
The new decree is a continuation of the October 2022 order, according to which “Sakhalin-1” was transferred under the management of Rosneft through its subsidiary Sakhalinmorneftegaz-Shelf. At that time, Exxon, which owned 30% of the shares and was the project operator, withdrew from it, becoming the only non-Russian investor to completely abandon its stake. To exit Russia, the company wrote off $4.6 billion.
The Trump team is considering which sanctions can be quickly lifted in case of progress in negotiations. At the same time, “Sakhalin-1” is not currently under direct US sanctions against Russian energy.
According to the new decree, foreign shareholders will be able to return their shares if they take steps to facilitate the lifting of Western sanctions, conclude contracts for the supply of necessary imported equipment, and transfer funds to the project’s accounts.
In addition to Exxon, the partners in “Sakhalin-1” were Rosneft, Indian ONGC Videsh, and Japanese SODECO. The Russian government allowed the Indian and Japanese companies to retain their shares.
This is reported by Reuters.
“>https://t.me/myLordBebo/75873

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 16 2025 15:55 utc | 76

It seems Putin and Trump both know that its the rump-British Empire, MI6 and their globalist allies in Davos, Brussels and DC who are behind this war.
Both Putin and Trump want to see them taken down, if even for different reasons.
Their happy facade of peace is keeping the British/globalists on a leash, while Trump and Putin work to destroy them elsewhere.

Posted by: Paul | Aug 16 2025 15:57 utc | 77

So,
It seems the Jew Trojan Horse did not betray Russia?
Where are Vargas and Brigitt Monthaupt, we need some explanation about this failure.

Posted by: scc | Aug 16 2025 15:58 utc | 78

The presence of these people at the Summit interests me most:
From Russia:
Finance Minister Anton Siluanov
Investment envoy Kirill Dmitriev
From U.S.:
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent
Special envoy Steve Witkoff
Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick
Why is that? Because:
a. U.S. desperately wants to position itself to benefit from the buildout of Asia. The U.S. is currently shut-out – or at least very much curtailed from – the Chinese market, and thereby from a great deal of the rest of Asia, since China is doing most of the exporting into those markets.
b. Wars are about wealth, and who gets it. Russia and India are now the only major Asian markets still (possibly) accessible to the U.S.
c. Russia has closed off most of the major military leverage the U.S. has over it
d. That leaves “deal-making”
e. Trump needs to provide a reason to the U.S. oligarchs to give up the military leverage strategy, and find a another path to continued wealth extraction.
That “carrot” is investment deals. I think the majority of the Summit-level deal-making centers on how the U.S. can participate in Russia’s built-out, which is likely to be monumental. Russia will be supplying materials via its Pacific coast and Arctic operations to all of Asia, and that’ll go on for decades. Those materials can also be exported to the U.S.
My assessment is that those investment deals are of great, great interest to many Western – and particularly U.S. – oligarchs and wealthy investors.
Did you know that Scott Bessent was formerly a partner at Soros Fund Management and founded Key Square Group, a global macro investment firm?
It’s likely that one very thick portfolio that Russia presented to the U.S. side included a list of potential investment projects that Russia has in the pipeline. “Here’s the ones the West might consider participating in”. A very, very thick portfolio, indeed.
Note also that both Trump and Witcoff are real estate developers, and most of their business associates are also real estate developers. Imagine how much real estate development will be occurring in Russia over the next few decades.
Once that portfolio is examined, and passed among the … um, “connected”, the resistance to Russia here in the U.S. will dissipate rapidly.
“All wars are bankers wars”.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Aug 16 2025 16:00 utc | 79

Nut what is happening on the frontline?
Dima said that the Ukrainians managed to push back Russian forces at some points
Imagine how motivated, brave and stupid the Ukrainians are. STtill ready to fight, eager to die “for the values of the west”.
But it also tellsbus how weak the Russians are and how fake are the stories coming from the Russian propagandists like Simplicius.

Posted by: vargas | Aug 16 2025 16:02 utc | 80

Most EU leaders remain faithful to the endsieg . They really want a good war.
Posted by: Exile | Aug 16 2025 15:46 utc | 71
Finally somebody understands the situation.
In EU everybody likes war.

Posted by: vargas | Aug 16 2025 16:06 utc | 81

I suspect there was some secret financial deal done. Both sides brought their top financial guys along for the meeting. Suitcases exchanged?

Posted by: Leroy | Aug 16 2025 16:09 utc | 82

My take on the summit Baked Alaska & Roasted Ukraine, with both Putin and Trump getting what they needed. It is obvious that Trump will use the meeting to gain an off-ramp from Ukraine as he blames the Europeans and Zelensky for being intransigent.

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Aug 16 2025 16:10 utc | 83

@Posted by: vargas | Aug 16 2025 16:02 utc | 80
Its the nutter Azov types who are fully brainwashed, unlike the average Ukrainian soldier that just wants to go home. The Russians are having a field day wiping the Azov nutters out in a controlled retreat. Once they are depleted, the Russians will simply take back the land over all the Azov corpses. Now be quiet with your delusional BS.

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Aug 16 2025 16:13 utc | 84

Imagine how motivated, brave and stupid the Ukrainians are. STtill ready to fight, eager to die “for the values of the west”.
But it also tellsbus how weak the Russians are and how fake are the stories coming from the Russian propagandists like Simplicius.
Posted by: vargas | Aug 16 2025 16:02 utc | 80
Simplicius is NOT a Russian propagandist.
Dima reports the Ukranian lies about this or that, but even he knows they are lies. Those purported “Russian soldiers” the liars claimed to have captured are far too skinny to be anything but hungry Ukrainians being staged for “propaganda” purposes. Like Bucha.
The Azovs are being sent to the LOC to die, so that Zelensky doesn’t have to stay awake all night wondering when they are coming for him. Except that he will stay awake all night because he is paranoid. Cocaine does that to you.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Aug 16 2025 16:16 utc | 85

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 16 2025 13:56 utc | 12
Thank you, John – very worthwhile!

Posted by: juliania | Aug 16 2025 16:20 utc | 86

I watched the lead-up to this meeting on the various news channels. It was interesting that all of them had talking heads that said they thought it was bad that Trump was meeting a war criminal (in the eyes of the ICC) and how Putin was laughing while in the Beast. I think this meeting worked better for Russia than the US because once the deep state takes Trump to task, his thoughts will again flip flop.
side note to the meeting: Here is an NPR report that states someone from the US side left papers regarding the meeting in their hotel room.
https://www.npr.org/2025/08/16/nx-s1-5504196/trump-putin-summit-documents-left-behind?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

Posted by: Groovinpict | Aug 16 2025 16:27 utc | 87

A Chinese future awaits.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 16 2025 14:42 utc | 31
I hope they take California first. Our infrastructure is terrible.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 16 2025 16:29 utc | 88

The resolution of this very longstanding war will take several years beyond whatever solution is arrived at in Ukraine. The most important change that must occur over those years is for the Outlaw US Empire to cease being an Outlaw along with its European colonies. It appears an initial step along the path to an ultimate global peace has commenced, but IMO it’s best not to hold one’s breath or get too overconfident because the Neoliberal/Neocon Parasites will fight the attempt so they can continue to reap their rents.
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 16 2025 14:24 utc | 25
Wise words that bear repeating, karlof1! By the way, I think the flyover was the airforce remembering planes to Russia WW2 memorial. Very fine.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 16 2025 16:30 utc | 89

The “globalist government” that initiated the War against Russian speaking Ukrainians was exclusively the Outlaw US Empire–recall Nuland’s “Fuck the EU”!
As for the root cause, IMO it’s the ongoing Cold War that never ceased against USSR/Russia in 1990 of which NATO expansion is a part. . . .
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 16 2025 14:24 utc | 25
====================
Not entirely.
The EU was already trying to “fuck with Russia” before the Maidan.
Through its gas policies.
The Ukraine let itself be used by Brussels free -marketeers to fuck with Russia and its gas business.
The EU was, obviously, already schizophrenic well before the Maidan, since Europe was mainlining fossil fuels through its Schwedt refinery, among others, not just via gas flowing to Europe via the Ukraine and the Druzhba pipeline.
“Fuck the EU” means we, too, will use the EU/Ukraine to fuck with Russia but it also means We will use Russia/Ukraine to fuck with the EU.
Both the EU and Ukraine got fucked with.
Russia, the presumptive fuckee, got stronger and is now calling the shots.
Slava Rossiya!!

Posted by: Jane | Aug 16 2025 16:33 utc | 90

Posted by: Groovinpict | Aug 16 2025 16:27 utc | 87
I will keep an eye out for sources on the purported “notes” left behind in a hotel…NPR is a known leftist lying sack of shit, which is why they are being defunded. If they reported the sky is blue, I would still walk outside and look up to verify. That’s how much I value anything they report.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Aug 16 2025 16:33 utc | 91

The Azovs are being sent to the LOC to die, so that Zelensky doesn’t have to stay awake all night wondering when they are coming for him. Except that he will stay awake all night because he is paranoid. Cocaine does that to you.
Posted by: Nooneuknow | Aug 16 2025 16:16 utc | 85
Yeah I was thinking the same thing after watching the vids linked here yesterday. Hunting the nazis down…..

Posted by: drinky crow | Aug 16 2025 16:34 utc | 92

Posted by: drinky crow | Aug 16 2025 16:34 utc | 92
I am wondering when the Azov’s will figure this out. And how angry they will be when they do.
Zelensky should be running to his safe space, if there is such a thing for him anymore.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Aug 16 2025 16:37 utc | 93

LoveDonbass | Aug 16 2025 15:28 utc | 58
no, the bottom line is the US has turned European economies into a war machine directed against Russia, funding a US playing “arsenal to democracy” which also directs its war stocks against Iran, VZ, etc. and preps for China. while terrorizing homeless and immigrants and boasting about the torture camps it has at home and abroad. homeless and immigrants, a war the US can win!
what did either of these two statesmen say about genocide? Russia simply wanted in on the ground floor of the new Sykes-Picot style division of the middle East. thus this meeting.
btw, denazification requires unconditional surrender by the gov’t in Kiev.

Posted by: duck n cover | Aug 16 2025 16:38 utc | 94

Trump had urgently needed the meeting. He had pushed for a ceasefire in Ukraine. He had threatened to impose secondary sanctions against buyers of Russia’s oil to press Russia towards that.

I’m sorry but it seems perfectly obvious to me that Trump didn’t need this summit to walk back from secondary sanctions. This is like the claims that he needs this or that excuse to actually disengage from the Ukrainian theater of the war against Russia, not just tell the Euros to pay for it. The embarrassment of secondary sanctions failing and causing a losing trade war is strictly a self-made problem, always solvable by himself, no Putin assistance needed.
Worse, I believe our host has bolded the wrong part of Trump’s concluding statement. I think it should have been

President Zelenskyy will be coming to D.C., the Oval Office, on Monday afternoon. If all works out, we will then schedule a meeting with President Putin. Potentially, millions of people’s lives will be saved. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Trump is promising to begin a peace deal, with Zelensky’s cooperation! And given that the issue is the war against Russia, the whole war against Russia, not just the war in the Ukrainian theater, leaving out the EU/NATO is preposterous. The parties to the war have to be at the peace table, or there is no deal!
My interpretation is that Trump is just blowing smoke, as he so often does. And his trade war is still ongoing. I still insist that economic warfare is war, especially in the hybrid warfare of WWIII. The struggle for the redivision of the world is going on right now. Trying to analyze what political benefit Trump personally got from this is not a wise use of one’s attention in my opinion.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 16 2025 16:41 utc | 95

Trump is rubbing the NEOCONS noses on both sides of the parties in dogshit. Thats the real fight. That is who must be defeated. That is the root cause.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 16 2025 16:44 utc | 96

Well, despite some “concern“, it seems everybody got out alive… except for these guys:

Relaxed with a bang: Gerani-2 destroyed Ukrainian Air Force air defense systems and mercenaries in a hotel southwest of Vovchansk
While most Western media outlets are reflecting on the meeting of the Russian and US presidents in Alaska, sometimes publishing outright speculation about the agreements reached there, the Russian army continues its work in terms of fulfilling the tasks of the special military operation.
One of the British journalists hastened to state that Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin allegedly agreed to stop mutual air attacks by the Russian and Ukrainian Armed Forces. This information was promptly denied in Kyiv. Well, no, as they say, so no.
Last night, practically in the midst of negotiations between the American and Russian leaders, the Russian Armed Forces launched another series of combined strikes on targets in the territory controlled by the Kyiv regime. Some details of the results of these attacks are now coming in.
The Telegram channel “First Kharkiv” writes that last night Russian drones-kamikazes struck and destroyed the hotel “Golden Coast”, located southwest of the city of Volchansk in the Kharkov region. This is an inactive recreation center of the State Enterprise “Kharkov Machine-Building Plant FED”, located at the address: Chuguevsky district, Volchansk urban community, the village of Verkhnyaya Pisarevka.
The hotel was used as a temporary deployment point (TDP) for Ukrainian Armed Forces militants, and there were also foreign mercenaries there. In addition, the enemy’s UAV control point was located here, and unmanned aerial vehicles were launched from here, including into Russian regions. Now all this is in the past tense.
Perhaps it is just a coincidence, or perhaps not, but a large fire at the location of the hotel was recorded by the FIRMS (Fire Information for Resource Management System) web mapping platform, owned by the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). It turns out that this time the Americans shared, if not the intelligence that the Ukrainian Armed Forces continue to receive from the Pentagon, then information about the effectiveness of attacks by the Russian Armed Forces. The Ukrainian militants and mercenaries had a good “rest”, as they say, with a spark.

https://en.topwar.ru/269715-otdohnuli-s-ogonkom-gerani-2-unichtozhili-pvd-vsu-i-naemnikov-v-otele-k-jugo-zapadu-ot-volchanska.html

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 16 2025 16:46 utc | 97

🇪🇺🇷🇺 Europe is signaling readiness to ease sanctions against Russia if a ceasefire is reached, The Daily Telegraph reports, citing diplomatic sources.

desperation sets in on the much valued eu or something.
note how even trump told them, no ceasefire, but a comprehensive end to the war, and yet these fascists and unelected autocratic regime pigs push and push and push for their ceasefire.
pathetic.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 16 2025 16:56 utc | 98

Trump is rubbing the NEOCONS noses on both sides of the parties in dogshit. Thats the real fight. That is who must be defeated. That is the root cause.
Posted by: circumspect | Aug 16 2025 16:44 utc | 96
All rapid Zionists just like Trump. He’s not going to defeat them, nor will any idiot barfed up by either party of moribund US Imperialism.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 16 2025 16:58 utc | 99

Zelensky and the EU will reject any terms reached, of course, but they have to be sweating. If one of the deals is “the US will not support Article 5 declarations after aggressive EU action,” most current European governments are absolutely doomed.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Aug 16 2025 13:30 utc | 3
It will be up to Ukraine to make decisions on its territory. International borders must not be changed by force.
Don’t yet grasp the contours of the playing field and the out of bounds 😊
Posted by: Oui | Aug 16 2025 13:57 utc | 13
The gambles failed.
Trump knows that.
So the response.
Off you go Europeans
You want you want it youre on your own.

Posted by: jpc | Aug 16 2025 16:59 utc | 100