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August 14, 2025
Some Thoughts On The Upcoming Summit

After reading some 20+ pieces about the upcoming Trump-Putin talks I still have no idea of what the outcome might be. Trump's uttering about the talks and Ukraine are, as usually, all over the place.

There seems to be some agreements already between the parties. If it were not so there would be no summit.

The Russian side is aiming at much more than Ukraine. The size and high ranks of its delegation is otherwise unexplained:

The Kremlin aide noted the very high level of the Russian delegation, which he said would include Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, Ushakov himself, Defense Minister Andrey Belousov, Finance Minister Anton Siluanov, and Special Presidential Representative for Investment and Economic Cooperation with Foreign Countries Kirill Dmitriev, who has been a key figure in the Ukraine settlement process.

“In addition to the presidents, five members from each delegation will participate in the negotiations,” he said, adding that “of course, a group of experts will also be nearby.”

There are nuclear weapon agreements that need an update and renewal. There are development opportunities in the Arctic and other economic aspects where both sides could win.

In fact, I suspect that there will be no decisions about the war in Ukraine.

The U.S. side knows that the war is a lost cause. Russia holds, as Trump has said, all the cards in that game. Whatever Trump does or says the war will be won on the ground by Russian forces. The best for him is to pull the U.S. out of the conflict and to leave the problem for the European vassals to solve.

For Russia the summit will be a big win even if there were no outcome. It has proven to global majority that it is reasonable and willing to go the extra mile to meet Trump even on U.S. territory. After this there will be no more pressure from China or India to stop the war.

Comments

Yep. Everybody walks away a winner.

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 14 2025 16:12 utc | 1

So do we agree now B?
After some thought on the subject, my speculation on the Assembly of Putin and Trump in Anchorage is:
I think the “deal” is a “no-deal” and by that I mean Trump & Putin in show of unity agree to do a “basket-of-swaps” deal. Zelinsky, at the urging of EU’s choir of quislings and the insistence of Waffen SS of Galicia rejects the offer. Trump, with his newly acquired political cover then cuts off support in a now “justified” retaliation leaving the quisling choir and the Waffen SS to fight on. [The next sound you’ll here is fattened rodents scampering down the wharf’s mooring with their carpet bags of cash]. Russia is given the green light to finish the job while Trump washes the blood of Hillary/Obama/Sullivan-Blinken off his hands like a latter day Pontius Pilate. Then the war grinds on while Trump berates the EU-quislings for not living up to their pledges of support. At some point Russia brings the thing to halt at an unpublished but predetermined line with/without an armistice.
Hopefully, Russia will start making an effort to get behind enemy lines and start entrapping the blocking forces comprised of Galicia’s Waffen SS or…every ethnic/cultural-Russ/Slovak/Hungarian in ex-ukraina will have to killed before the Galicians are forced to face Russian arms and…immediately surrender.

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 11 2025 18:40 utc | 58
I note for the record that the last paragraph has started to transpire in the past two days…praise the Lord!

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 14 2025 16:20 utc | 2

The U.S. side knows that the war is a lost cause. Russia holds, as Trump has said, all the cards in that game. Whatever Trump does or says the war will be won on the ground by Russian forces. The best for him is to pull the U.S. out of the conflict and to leave the problem for the European vassals to solve.
Top assessment!
That’s exactly how almost everyone here in eastern Germany sees it.
Ukraine will play a subordinate role, only presented to the outside world as a major role. And perhaps even that “only” to find reasons to be able to scale back aid.
A Sylensky would probably only need to refuse once, just once, and it would be enough to sell Trumph as “You don’t want peace.”
The real deals probably won’t be mentioned in the press at all, at least not all of them.
But in any case, a reason will be found to send Sylensky packing and leave Ukraine to the Russians. Trumph would be fine.

Posted by: Genesis | Aug 14 2025 16:24 utc | 3

All that is correctly said. In reality, Trump’s administration should take the first step of pacifying the EU and European NATO before moving on without interference. It would create a much better environment for resolving all of the issues and causes of the division.
Saturday will tell.

Posted by: whirlX | Aug 14 2025 16:24 utc | 4

Just having it hard n Alaska, sidelining the euro cucks is a huge win for Russia.
Now the whole world sees what many of us here in the peanut gallery have been saying. Starmer, Merz, Macron, Von der Leyden, etc are all NPCs.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 14 2025 16:24 utc | 5

This will be a meet and greet between VVP and DJT.
The EU and MSM press are already talking about ceasefires and Uk peacekeeping troops and Uk air cover over western Ukronaziland. Its all delusional, nothing of the sort will happen.
DJT is more interested in economic co-operation than the fate of Volo and his fascist government, that fact is clear.
But none the less some sort of agreement will be reached on rare earth minerals and ng rights and development. This will give DJT some cover in the neo con US press but not much.
The neo con war hawk caucus led by Graham and Blumenthal (the fake Marine) will scream and yell, but unless DJT is willing to accept the four provinces and Crimea, plus Odessa and the Black Sea ports, and the land bridge to Transnistria, no agreement will be reached.
And there certainly will be no NATO backed cease fire, especially when RF is on the rapid move all along the 600km front, and the Ukronazi army is in a state collapse….on to Odessa (remember the Krajina VVP).

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 14 2025 16:29 utc | 6

Excellent commentary, thanks, b.

Posted by: canuk | Aug 14 2025 16:31 utc | 7

Once on U.S. soil in Alaska, Putin risks arrest on the warrants issued by the International Criminal Court. Is this the plan and set-up taking place?

Posted by: Mark Moore | Aug 14 2025 16:33 utc | 8

The Russians and Trump better be REAL careful, that’s a freaking lot of High Value Russian targets in 1 place at one time with limited ways in and out. Its a NEOCONS or Ukraine Nazi’s wet dream.
I’ve participated in many base defense exercises at JBER, its a terrain nightmare for security guys. If someone wants to take targets out and are willing to go to the limits, its a losing proposition for defenders and heaven for a OPFOR group.

Posted by: SoCoRuss | Aug 14 2025 16:35 utc | 9

Trump wants a ceasefire. The Russians are claimed to have liked what Witkoff said last week, but that’s nothing like an agreement.
The Blob hasn’t budged, and will still fight to the last hohol. I don’t foresee substantial progress here, so the killing will go on. Russia will have to choose when their objectives are met. Unless the Blob gives massively on financial matters, diplomacy, etc. But that’s a loss and the Blob knows it.

Posted by: seer | Aug 14 2025 16:36 utc | 10

Have again submitted a comment on a closed thread. The article is on the Trump/Putin meeting so hope it’s appropriate to re-submit here.
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Penetrating article by Professor Robinson, an English defence/Intel expert now based in Canada, on the Canadian site “Canadian Dimension”.
https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/why-the-trump-putin-summit-is-unlikely-to-ripen-peace-in-ukraine
Professor Robinson was the only Western analyst I came across who got the early period of the war after 2014 right: I wasn’t reading MOA at the time and the discussion on that period on Colonel Lang’s site is now lost. Baud was busy doing NATO stuff in Kiev so I don’t expect put out much if any open source during that crucial period
The key section of Professor Robinson’s article on the Alaska meeting bolded in the comment in response below:-
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This section of Professor Robinson’s article cuts through all the fluff that surrounds this conflict:-
“Beyond this, Putin has repeatedly made it clear that territory is not the primary issue in the war. Rather his main concern is preventing Ukraine from becoming a future military threat to the Russian Federation by ensuring its neutrality and limiting its military capacity. Putin did not choose to invade Ukraine on a whim. He did so because he considered that vital national security issues were involved. Barring military exhaustion, he is not going to stop without those issues being, if not fully resolved, then at least seriously addressed.”
This all-important point is as far as I can see entirely ignored by the European politicians and press. Certainly I haven’t picked up the point being made in England though I can’t pretend to an exhaustive survey. All the talk I see is of territorial loss or gain.
But I do hope the initial reason for the Russian invasion of Ukraine is not forgotten:-
“In late 2021 and early 2022, the Minsk process was finally buried by Kiev and its Western handlers. Another large-scale attack was planned on Donbass. A large group of the Ukrainian armed forces was preparing to start a new offensive against Lugansk and Donetsk, which obviously entailed ethnic cleansing campaigns, numerous casualties and hundreds of thousands of refugees. We were obliged to prevent that catastrophe and to protect the people. We saw no other solution.”
https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1957107/
The conflict’s snowballed since. It’s gone heavy duty geopolitical. Maybe it always was. But the protection of the Donbass, though that might now extend to protection of the entire old Party of Regions arc and the cultural Russians beyond, remains the key.
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Looking at another outstanding issue, I expect if the Canadians were sending sabotage and assassination teams into the US using bases set up by the Russians for the purpose, or lobbing missiles and drones into American territory using Russian equipment, personnel and ISR facilities, the Americans would find some way or other of putting a stop to it. Maybe Putin’ll manage to get that point across to Trump in Alaska. Not hopeful.

Posted by: English Outsider | Aug 14 2025 16:39 utc | 11

As KJ Noh said recently, “If you’re not at the table (Europe, Ukraine) then you’re on the menu.”

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 14 2025 16:39 utc | 12

Once on U.S. soil in Alaska, Putin risks arrest on the warrants issued by the International Criminal Court. Is this the plan and set-up taking place?
Posted by: Mark Moore | Aug 14 2025 16:33 utc | 8
What nonsense are you writing? The United States hasn’t even recognized the International Criminal Court; on the contrary, it has even threatened its judges and prosecutors if they dare to investigate the United States.
Everyone should know that by now.
If I’m wrong, please correct me.

Posted by: Genesi | Aug 14 2025 16:40 utc | 13

Ho stop it with all the “assassination plans” … Medvedev didn’t invoked “dead hand” policy just for fun.
Consequence : this word have a meaning. Neocons might be dumb , that don’t mean they are suicidal .. who do you think they are ? Hellenskyi ?

Posted by: Savonarole | Aug 14 2025 16:41 utc | 14

It seems obvious that those opposed to peace talks, having been unsuccessful, will then switch to characterizing the talks as a failure (regardless of the facts). It’s a pretty small repertoire of options available and they are mostly just bad and worse. Therefore, don’t be distracted by the MSM stenographers and the shrieking Euro-goblins, trolls and orcs.

Posted by: NH | Aug 14 2025 16:41 utc | 15

Entirely possible the US attempts to arrest Putin.
Nothing reckless or absurd is off the table with Zion Don and the New Neocons.

Posted by: Jim C. | Aug 14 2025 16:43 utc | 16

after Trump’s murder of Soleimani, and the disgusting jewbastard betrayal of Iran during supposed nuclear negotiations the synchronization of neocon/ globalist US officials with Israel’s wishes is clear. How could these hyenas resist such juicy prey offering their foolish throats?

Posted by: Space Cowboy | Aug 14 2025 16:45 utc | 17

Posted by: NH | Aug 14 2025 16:41 utc | 15
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This powwow is set up to force the Blob to negotiate in the media. If the eurocucks like what they hear, then they’ll keep supporting the Blob, and the hohols will keep dying.

Posted by: seer | Aug 14 2025 16:47 utc | 18

Hope I.G. Farben reps will be kept out of the HVAC air intake and conduit lanes.
Also, hope that many industrial-strenght portable lithium lamps will be at every corner, nook, and Exit doors.
Also, hope that the Russian Orthodox Church there, in Anchorage, will spread their holy umbrella over the site, aside from the leaky Patriots.
Amen.

Posted by: logosapplied | Aug 14 2025 16:48 utc | 19

I haven’t seen it discussed that much but the pudgy guy with the eyeliner is over in Scotland telling NATO weenies the US will be happy to sell weapons to kill Russians with if they pay for them. Evil rooskies might see this as a fundamental rejection of their concerns.

Posted by: chunga | Aug 14 2025 16:49 utc | 20

I am highly conflicted about the Alaska meeting.
I would like to believe we are going to witness a sea change in geopolitics but fear we will see more barbarism from empire as it declines.
What would be the impact of taking out the Russia contingent to Russia? Would they come together like Iran? And how long would that take?
Would the Dead Hand kick in for sure?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 14 2025 16:57 utc | 21

Ho stop it with all the “assassination plans” … Medvedev didn’t invoked “dead hand” policy just for fun.
Consequence : this word have a meaning. Neocons might be dumb , that don’t mean they are suicidal .. who do you think they are ? Hellenskyi ?
Posted by: Savonarole | Aug 14 2025 16:41 utc | 14
Agreed days ago. We’re talking about Russia, Putin here. They aren’t some Mikey mouse western idiots. They no exactly what they are fucking doing. Don’t believe me? Just check the scoreboard, armchair dildos.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 14 2025 16:58 utc | 22

Will Putin ask for the Nobel Peace Prize for Trump? Hahaha

Posted by: N.E | Aug 14 2025 17:01 utc | 23

100% B, up to your point on China and India, there you lost me.
As this is fundamentally a conflict against BRICS, I’m very sure that China and India have left anything to do with the Ukrainian part of WWIII safely in the hands of their well abled ally.

Posted by: Ogre | Aug 14 2025 17:11 utc | 24

Posted by: chunga | Aug 14 2025 16:49 utc | 20
I’m pretty sure the Russians are okay with these statements, they were probably given the heads up before they were said.
Sure, you can buy loads of weapons we haven’t produced yet, as long as you pay a 50% deposit. We’ll have them ready for ya in 5 years. Don’t forget to pay your deposit for that LNG we have safely stored under the sea while you’re at it!!

Posted by: Ogre | Aug 14 2025 17:18 utc | 25

Alex Krainer has an interesting perspective on things. He believes Trump’s smoke and hot air rhetoric is a cover for a deeper rapprochements between Russia and the USA/ MAGA faction behind the back of the Euro-Atlantic Deep State.
https://www.youtube.com/live/KjHD_1n2mWM?si=CBHWU2bVNo4b–tB

Posted by: Elial22 | Aug 14 2025 17:20 utc | 26

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 14 2025 16:57 utc | 21
What would be the impact of taking out the Russia contingent to Russia?
<=One likely outcome: Alaska, Washington, Chicago, Boston, New Orleans, Charleston, Atlanta, Miami, NY, Kansas city, Nashville, Perdue, Boston, London, Paris, Houston, Galveston, Sidney, Mobile, Port Author, and ports on the west coast would light up like a Christmas tree that set off fourth of July fireworks inside of a ammonia and nitrate fertilizer factory.. several hundred ships would sink and there would be no UK, no Israel and no European Union.. no safe air to breath.. but it will be great for the undertaking and portable compressed air breathing business.

Posted by: snake | Aug 14 2025 17:20 utc | 27

Posted by: Elial22 | Aug 14 2025 17:20 utc | 26
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Sasha Krainer may be Will Gruff’s alter ego.
Trump is playing 50D chess as he slaughters and starves people.
TRUST.
THE.
PLAN.
Don’t be a Dembot. Epstein never existed!

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 14 2025 17:23 utc | 28

Over/under: 4 Su35 escorts come with the delegation.
How’s that for a photo op? Su35s and Putin’s Il76 landing on US soil.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 14 2025 17:25 utc | 29

Posted by: Ogre | Aug 14 2025 17:18 utc | 25
Yup, probably just a bluff wrapped in a sales pitch for another bill of goods in line with the strategy of his boss, the great and powerful oz meant solely for the domestic audience. This frustrates me because that makes us morons at large. That’s a shoe, I’m afraid, that fits like a glove.

Posted by: chunga | Aug 14 2025 17:26 utc | 30

Right now, trawlers in Antarctica are scooping up vast amounts of krill to put into capsules for humans, leaving the whales and other sea creatures dependent on krill, hungry and malnourished.
I shudder to think what Russia and the US combined will do to the Arctic, while they drill, mine, and scrape it for resources.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 14 2025 17:28 utc | 31

Posted by: Elial22 | Aug 14 2025 17:20 utc | 26
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I wouldn’t say rapprochement. Trump is setting up the eurocucks and galacian nazis to burn. The Russians will still have to make war, a costly affair. Maybe Trump offers the Russians financial inducements, but mostly he seems to be letting the eurocucks die with this.

Posted by: seer | Aug 14 2025 17:30 utc | 32

Posted by: Elial22 | Aug 14 2025 17:20 utc | 26
I like Alex and his arguments are persuasive and they leave me scratching my head. If I could talk to Alex what I’d ask him is this: Are these tricky slights of hand really going to fake out the “deep state” neocon crowd?

Posted by: chunga | Aug 14 2025 17:30 utc | 33

Out of interest, what are the odds of an attempt to assassinate Trump, and Putin getting the blame?

Posted by: Passerby | Aug 14 2025 17:33 utc | 34

“of course, a group of experts will also be nearby.”
So reassuring.

Posted by: Horseless Headsman | Aug 14 2025 17:40 utc | 35

Such hysterics about a meeting that may or may not lead to more meetings. They obviously have a lot of things to talk about but I’m going to assume there will be no decisions on anything of real importance yet. The media hype and frenzy is just entertainment for western viewers and a few trolls that like to post that rubbish here. The meeting will come and go and the SMO will continue until all goals are achieved.

Posted by: Watzov | Aug 14 2025 17:43 utc | 36

Posted by: Passerby | Aug 14 2025 17:33 utc | 34
So, in an US military base receiving an high ranking foreign delegation there is an attempt to assassinate the president of us and the blame is put on the hosted delegation?
I guess it would much believable that Putin himself will save Trump from such an attempt.

Posted by: Mario | Aug 14 2025 17:43 utc | 37

Listening to Brian Berletic as well as many of the comments here, I too am scared that the US will do something psychotic and try a kill or capture Putin and his high level delegation. It seems crazy, but the empire is desperate. I assume Russia understands the risk, and obviously will be prepared but it seems like there is too many variables, such as the plane being shot down and blaming it on Ukraine, or even the building being rigged with explosives. I wonder if the Russian state has a response already preplanned for this? Would it mean WW3? I don’t know why but this whole thing makes no sense unless its as B says, theres some larger framework that has been agreed too.

Posted by: James C | Aug 14 2025 17:45 utc | 38

As if things couldn’t get any worse for Ukraine and NATO apparently the strikes on the missile production facilities that Merz foolishly invested in took out a bunch of patriot systems that cost $25B:
https://southfront.press/russia-deals-crushing-blow-to-kyiv/
I guess Merz is going to need to handover all remaining systems now.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 14 2025 17:51 utc | 39

As of last night Russia restricted the use of Whatsapp and Telegram.

Posted by: Montreal | Aug 14 2025 17:57 utc | 40

English-O 11,
Gotta disagree. You can’t get security with paper alone.
1] Territory equals Flight-Time. Flight-Time equals firing solutions. Territory=Security, paper does not.
2] Cutting supply lines is key in a military conflict. For almost 200 years the English have sought to cut Russia’s access to the Black Sea, Russia would be foolish to allow another Treaty of Paris, 1856. So long as ex-ukrainia can be supplied by the Black Sea is exactly as long as the war will continue.
English meddling in Eastern-Europe/Russia [Crimean War 1.0 -Treaty of Paris 1856] created the world in eastern-Europe that preceded WWI, which in turn bequeathed WWII. “Half a league, half a league, Half a league onward, into the valley of Death Rode the six hundred…Boldly they rode…into the jaws of DeathOr not, I think not.
Let’s not chase paper solutions. The solution is balance, a balance of Empires…and England, by not embracing reforms in the 1800’s choose to eradicate it’s empire…all so the comfortable could be made more comfortable. Americans would do well to steer clear of advice given by those who were made comfortable.
The USA faces stark choice, listen to Anglophiliacs in DC/London/Jerusalem as they offer endless advice and follow the English into the ash heap of history or, alternatively, deal with the Russians, create a world where the Empires are balanced. Not some lovey-dovey-hippy-dippy-peace, rather a gritty but practical balance of power and terror.

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 14 2025 18:00 utc | 41

@ chunga 33
Agreed. Trump wouldn’t be able to scratch his ass without a neocon Jew behind him whispering: “ a little bit to the right Mr. President”.
And I am worried about Putin and his delegation. Nothing is off the table for these crazies, even if it would trigger a catastrophe.
I don’t understand why they agreed to meet in Alaska as oppose to a neutral ground. Russia has the upper hand and can dictate the terms of a meeting easily. I am baffled.

Posted by: Alpi | Aug 14 2025 18:05 utc | 42

Listening to Brian Berletic as well as many of the comments here, I too am scared that the US will do something psychotic and try a kill or capture Putin and his high level delegation” – James C 38
And if the meeting occurs without an assassination/kidnapping attempt will those selling this story admit their error? A commenter remarked the other day that Brian Berletic bats 1.000 I kinda doubted it at the time but…in a couple days we’ll find out eh?

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 14 2025 18:09 utc | 43

If past actions are any indication of future behavior, there is a high probability of a major military action on Russia by American puppet states in Europe or on Iran by Israel during the meeting to put Putin off balance.

Posted by: Sid Victor Cattoni | Aug 14 2025 18:12 utc | 44

Putin did nothing after attacks on the Crimea bridge, nothing after many attacks on civilians launched by US and NATO personnel in Ukraine. Did nothing after attempts on his helicopter- traveling ass, nothing after attacks on Russian strategic bombers but now Russia is gonna get redneck.They might but we’ll all be in Purgatory or radioactive Hell. The whole of US military and gov’t lackeys are where they are because they told their superiors what the boss wanted to hear. Hence these buffoons believe the Russian economy is collapsing, the Russians have lost a million of their best troops, and victory is nigh. Anyone who’s ever served in the military knows ineptitude has no bounds once it gets really organized. Or as my then recently discharged buddy after getting a summons while hitch- hiking home from the war told a California state trooper,” Some guys get in the Army and they just never get out”.

Posted by: Space Cowboy | Aug 14 2025 18:12 utc | 45

@ S. Brennan 43
Concern for Putin’s well being is just that, a concern. Nothing to admit as an “error”.
Are you telling us that there is ZERO possibility of such an event, given US behavior in the recent past?

Posted by: Alpi | Aug 14 2025 18:14 utc | 46

Excellent point S Brennan. We now have a real world testable hypotheses that will be scored about 24 hrs.
If nothing else, presuming it’s falsified we can take away Demi-god status from Berlectic.
That is unless he goes full moonbat mode and claims that the CIA really killed Putin and replaced him with a body double…

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 14 2025 18:18 utc | 47

Alpi 46,
People are not predicting “concern” as you say but rather, kidnapping and assassination of Putin, your attempt to whitewash others dark predictions with misleading language not withstanding.

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 14 2025 18:21 utc | 48

As an oldtimer on this site, reading all and sundry posts until the last few years of the Moon’s growing popularity and now magnetism like a candle’s flame to moths, I thank you karlof1 for sticking with us and teaching us, as we watch you grow and learn as well. There are others too with the same lucidity and patient concern, perhaps I’ll thank them next time 🙂
It’s instructive to see your mature use of our shared Internet platform, and an inspiration and example of how to ignore naysayers and continue with the truth as we know it.
From your recent article on substack

We hear Putin, Lavrov and even Rubio say relations between nations ought to be governed by their national interests, which means knowing other nations interests, not continually attempting to get one’s own way as the West has done for centuries. For Humanity to progress, equality must become the norm, not the exception. …
Cuba perhaps stands out as the primary example of a nation that has refused to submit. And that’s the primary reason why Cuba continues to be targeted all these years after gaining its independence from the gangster empire of the 1950s and the preceding decades.

By the way, for anyone new to substack, you do not have to subscribe to read the article. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click “No thanks.”

Posted by: jonku | Aug 14 2025 18:24 utc | 49

@ Brennan 48
Still waiting for an answer, notwithstanding your outright dismissal of people’s legitimate concern.

Posted by: Alpi | Aug 14 2025 18:28 utc | 50

development opportunities in the Arctic? hurray! making better missiles sounds like human progress to me, having been born and bred at the radioactive gmo tit of the made in Amerikkka, nuclear-powered nihilism everywhere. China’s EVs equal progress? the same lunacy of an Elon Musk runs China. the planet cannot burn down fast enough. maybe some bees will survive. or algae. cuz progress means using Greenland’s water for Google server farms, where they can store all the data they gather from spying on everyone and then use it in their automated war machine. why not hydrofrack the Arctic Circle? who the fuck needs stupid whales anyway?

Posted by: duck n cover | Aug 14 2025 18:35 utc | 51

#16 “Nothing reckless or absurd is off the table with Zion Don and the New Neocons.”
Golden opportunity for the “neo-con” to get rid both of Putin and Trump.

Posted by: kapimo | Aug 14 2025 18:43 utc | 52

@ Space Cowboy | Aug 14 2025 18:12 utc | 45
rk forgot to change his nickname, it seems.

Posted by: boneless | Aug 14 2025 18:44 utc | 53

wagelaborer | Aug 14 2025 17:28 utc | 31–
How much investment has the USA made in Alaska since the pipeline and oil fields were erected in the 1970s? How many serviceable ice breakers does the USA own? How much infrastructure is there on Alaska’s Northern shores to facilitate exploration? The answers to those basic questions tell a great deal about the USA’s abilities to further exploit the Arctic.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 14 2025 18:45 utc | 54

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 14 2025 18:00 utc | 41
S Brennan – demilitarisation and denazification was what the Russians said at the start of the SMO and demilitarisation and denazification was what they were always going to get. All we can do is speculate on how. NATO doesn’t have the military power, nor the West the economic power to prevent it. And neither Biden nor Trump had or have any intention of going nuclear.
If the Russians have to go as far as Lvov to get demilitarisation and denazification then they’ll go as far as Lvov. Though that would be a most unsatisfactory solution and they’d much rather not.
All this was obvious at the start of the SMO. I wasted a heap of time on English blogs and on SST stating as much. Also obvious was that we were going to abandon our proxies. That process was well under way in Biden’s time, even before Vilnius, and is still apparent. As Mearsheimer says often, we led the poor devils down the garden path.
No need to fuss overmuch about the Euros. Amongst whom, said with gritted teeth, we must include us Brits. The Euros didn’t manage a convincing simulacrum of the White Tiger this time round. Manstein and his fellows must be spinning in their graves.

Posted by: English Outsider | Aug 14 2025 18:46 utc | 55

A commenter remarked the other day that Brian Berletic bats 1.000 I kinda doubted it at the time but…in a couple days we’ll find out eh?
Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 14 2025 18:09 utc | 43
Except that Brian didn’t predict an assassination, he pointed out that it is a possibility, given recent US decapitations of negotiators and top officials.
I edited his video for a 30 minute radio show, and put it on Podbean, if you want to hear what he actually said, instead of inventing a prediction that you can then announce didn’t come true.
I hope that Putin and Lavrov are traveling on separate planes, because I also do not trust the US Deep State, although I think it’s more likely that the US will try to give them fast acting pancreatic cancer, something that was exposed in the 70s as in the US arsenal of dirty tricks.
https://wagelaborer.podbean.com/e/brian-berletic-on-alaskan-summit/

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 14 2025 18:54 utc | 56

The answers to those basic questions tell a great deal about the USA’s abilities to further exploit the Arctic.
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 14 2025 18:45 utc | 53
Yes, I’m sure that Russia is far ahead of the US. That’s why I’m not happy for them to team up.
They’ll be twice as destructive.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 14 2025 18:57 utc | 57

Ghost of Zanon | Aug 14 2025 17:51 utc | 39
I have a longshot what if. What if the US gave Russia the coordinates of the missle plants to keep a lid on attacks inside Russia as a gift?

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 14 2025 19:01 utc | 58

Though I agree that Russia and the US will eventually have to sit down and hammer out a new modus vivendi, the meeting strikes me as entirely premature from a Russian perspective. Ideally it would take place next year after Russia takes Odessa.
The one and only reason I can see for a summit now is to assess Trump’s psychological and emotional state as he grapples with the last face-saving exit Russia is going to offer.
Of course, the Russians will be even more aware than the US that the RF/NATO under Biden were only about two steps on the escalation ladder from direct Russian retaliation against NATO, leading almost certainly to a nuclear exchange.
That said, however, going soft on the US now is likely to make the next conflict all the more likely.
Russia cannot count on ever being in a better position to drive events vs. NATO than they are now–consolidated support on the homefront; a high and rising degree of geopolitical solidarity, even from the West coddlers Brazil and India; a confused, and strategically incompetent Western military-strategic ‘braintrust” (LOL); a moribund Western military industrial plant; critically low stocks of key military items; a profound dependency on Chinese supply chains for the US MIC; inept Western military doctrine & tactics; low and falling domestic support for military adventurism and enrollment; critical weaknesses in Westerm military technology–with Russia and China, in different areas, having a generational lead in STEM graduates; AD/AS/EW, hypersonics & other missile tech; materials science; space technologies and increasingly Chinese ISR.

Posted by: Paul Damascene | Aug 14 2025 19:02 utc | 59

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69z6Q84c6dg
This is a discussion about the upcoming negotiations and towards the beginning it makes the same point I observe. The demilitarization of Ukraine is or nearly is accomplished because their losses and bad demographics make putting together a large army close to impossible.

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 14 2025 19:04 utc | 60

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 14 2025 18:54 utc | 55
> I think it’s more likely that the US will try to give them fast acting pancreatic cancer
How can they do that? How can someone give pancreatic cancer to someone?

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 14 2025 19:04 utc | 61

D-Day Russia-U.S. Peace Summit In Alaska
Alaska Peace Summit … 🇺🇸 🇷🇺
Let them surprise us 😂
Zelenskyy 🇺🇦 spending his last hours in London w Keir Starmer 🇬🇧 and Friedrich Merz in Berlin 🇩🇪 discussing long range missile joint production.
I expect Putin and Trump to get on well together … either the preparation was excellent and Europe will be disappointed, or Trump got cold feet 🧊 backtracks and tells NATO who are out. You started it w #Joe, You finish it. Buy stuff in America and we’ll silently wish You all the best. No NATO forces in Ukraine.
Trump Says He Thinks Putin, Zelenskiy Will Make Peace | Bloomberg TV – 30 min ago |
Mosty kabuki theatre and DS warriors coming out of the woodwork for interviews on corporate media tv – Michael McFaul.

Posted by: Oui | Aug 14 2025 19:08 utc | 62

@Paul Damascene | Aug 14 2025 19:02 utc | 58
What if the US and Russia pull something completely unexpected out of the hat, for example agreeing to build a tunnel under the Bering Strait, i.e. something related to trade and has little to do with Ukraine, a war that is essentially decided already.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 14 2025 19:08 utc | 63

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 14 2025 19:04 utc | 60
“The historical record shows that the Central Intelligence Agency continued to possess and develop biological warfare weapons, including miniaturized weapons for political assassinations, long after the United States signed and ratified the 1972 Biological Warfare Convention banning the possession and research on such weaponry.
Violating the Biological Weapons Convention
Perhaps the State Department should brush up on the history of international conventions the United States has secretly broken. The following August 23, 1975 memo from CIA Deputy Director for Plans Thomas Karamessines to CIA director William Colby outlines how the CIA’s Special Operation Division, a joint U.S. Army-CIA element at Fort Detrick, Maryland, was instructed to maintain a supply of toxins not included on the official Fort Detrick inventory list that was subject to President Richard Nixon’s disposal order pursuant to the biological warfare convention agreement. The memo was provided to the Senate Church Committee investigating the abuses of the U.S. Intelligence Community. Concerned that Nixon’s order might result in the destruction of the CIA’s „germ supply,“ a contingency plan was developed to ship the CIA’s toxins to Huntingdon Research Center at the Becton-Dickinson Company in Baltimore, a firm established in 1897 by Maxwell W. Becton and Fairleigh S. Dickinson. The company, now known as BD, specializes in injection and infusion products, including needles and syringes. One might wish to ask the State Department why the CIA, anxious to hide its supply of dangerous toxins, would select a firm that produces needles and syringes. The answer is quite simple, the CIA continued to develop toxic warfare weapons after the ratification of the treaty prohibiting their possession and use. The memo states that the „stockpile capability plus some research effort in delivery systems is funded at $75,000 per annum.“
Since the 1970s, the bio-warfare capabilities of the United States, including the covert introduction of cancer-causing pathogens into targeted persons has mushroomed in cost and effectiveness. The use of nano-technology and micro-mechanical flying and crawling insects, coupled with bio-toxin payloads, is no longer in the realm of science fiction but is scientific fact.
Not only are cancer-causing biological toxins used for cancer weapons but inorganic elements are also employed. Only a few micrograms of beryllium and polonium-210 are required to cause the development of fibrotic tumors that result in lung cancer.
Among the „germs“ in the CIA’s bag of tricks were anthrax, tuberculosis, encephalitis, small pox, snake venom, and food poisoning, including salmonella.”

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 14 2025 19:22 utc | 64

Elial22 @ 26

Alex Krainer has an interesting perspective on things. He believes Trump’s smoke and hot air rhetoric is a cover for a deeper rapprochements between Russia and the USA/ MAGA faction behind the back of the Euro-Atlantic Deep State.

Krainer first appeared on the scene very reasoned sounding with a deep knowledge of history, the real stuff not he high school textbook nonsensne, very intriguing but lately his anti-TDS has gotten the best of him, lots of mixed up confusion, he’s positing an I, Claudius Robert Graves world of plots, counter plots, knives behind curtains among powerful elite factions and internecine machinations, feudal EU aristocratic ambitions, retrograde British Empire string pullers in the USA deep state, Erdogan’s Greater Turan dreams, it’s a tangled list, everyone at each other’s throats, more even than at the Russian or Chinese throats, the only part of the tangle that is obviously correct is the Saudi-Zionist Greater Israel project. For myself I’m more attuned to someone like Berletic who sees continuity of USA Wall Street-CIA Cold War agenda and strategic sequencing of events in the lead up to a desperate last ditch war for global hegemony. It’s not internecine warfare, they are all strictly following orders.
For a diametrically opposed and very reasoned perspective on Trump from someone who hates the guy but doesn’t suffer TDS, in fact he wishes Trump all the best in Alaska, try this from Dimity Lascaris:
~60min mark, https://youtu.be/nIfj4kV66X8?t=3675

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 14 2025 19:25 utc | 65

Thanks for analysis b. Time will tell very soon …
Posted by: Horseless Headsman | Aug 14 2025 17:40 utc | 35
‘ “of course, a group of experts will also be nearby.”
So reassuring.’
Of course the elephant in the room! Elephants more like.
The US Nationa Interests – The bankers, AI supremacy, … China?
I’m pretty sure they will all be ‘represented’, probably in person.
It’s in a secure place without eyes – they are being responsible.
Good. It is the new Yalta except we aren’t being spooked. Good.
We’ll know soon enough. No need to speculate any further.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 14 2025 19:30 utc | 66

Posted by: Paul Damascene | Aug 14 2025 19:02 utc | 58
Though I agree that Russia and the US will eventually have to sit down and hammer out a new modus vivendi, the meeting strikes me as entirely premature from a Russian perspective. Ideally it would take place next year after Russia takes Odessa.
The one and only reason I can see for a summit now is to assess Trump’s psychological and emotional state as he grapples with the last face-saving exit Russia is going to offer.

I agree. Highlighted the phrase that I consider especially relevant.
There’s a lot of talk about how Russia gets cheated again (“Minsk 3”) or even worse. I believe that Washington’s inner circle fully realises that the Ukraine war is lost. Given that, turning the page, agreeing to talks and rushing for a “deal” are rational steps. There will be another opportunity to disrupt Russia but not now, with Ukraine as the tool. (“Deal” in quotes because the demonstration of activity is more important than the actual result: a new nuclear treaty plus a nice trade/economic deal might do it: enough to sell at home and get nice pictures.)
I don’t think that the Russians need to send Putin, Lavrov and Belousov to check Trump’s mental state 🙂

That said, however, going soft on the US now is likely to make the next conflict all the more likely.

But what would going hard on the US mean? In my opinion, that’d require something like a combined trade embargo of BRICS against the West. This seems completely out the question at the moment — unfortunately for me. So Russia has to settle how they want to end the Ukraine war but from the US point of view, it’ll be just another battle.
And yes, new battlefields are being prepared as we speak. Everybody knows it, including Russians and Chinese. It’s a long game.

Russia cannot count on ever being in a better position to drive events vs. NATO than they are now

You are correct but how do you think they should exploit this advantage better?
I sometimes wonder if they could support those little cracks in NATO/EU better but how?

Posted by: Konami | Aug 14 2025 19:32 utc | 67

I too think that Trump and Putin will talk about anything and everything except Ukraine at tomorrow’s summit. Why bother when there are much bigger fish to fry like striking trade deals between two large economies?
Putin is looking ahead to where Russia will be after the war ends (everyone knows Russia has won at this point, even if not everyone is ready to admit it out loud). That means getting a rollback on sanctions, getting its assets unfrozen, getting US capital flowing into the Russian economy again.
Trump meanwhile, has finally given-up on trying to solve the Gordion Knot that is Ukraine and has, instead, elected to ignore it. He also wants to tap the lucrative wealth of Russia’s untapped Arctic reserves of oil and natural gas, and he knows that the Russians will cut thew US in on the action if the US is willing to put-up the money.
This is my opinion, and I reserve the right to be proven wrong.

Posted by: Monos | Aug 14 2025 19:36 utc | 68

For Russia the summit will be a big win even if there were no outcome. It has proven to global majority that it is reasonable and willing to go the extra mile to meet Trump even on U.S. territory. After this there will be no more pressure from China or India to stop the war.

But to me it seems obvious that if Russia does make a set of deals that effectively ends the war against Russia but leaves Ukraine unresolved, that would intensify pressure from the rest of BRICS. The US making deals with other nations on a mutually acceptable basis is precisely what they want, that’s multipolarity. Making a deal re Ukraine would be progress toward win/win, where Europe, Russia and Ukraine all win peace. I must admit I can’t see how Russia can make deals on world oil and natural gas markets, and rare earths, etc. while ignoring Ukraine. Nor do I think that any honest observers in the other BRICS nations need such a PR display to realize how reactive Russian policy has been and how aggressive the US is. It’s like saying Trump needs an excuse to walk away from Ukraine. He always could have simply dubbed it Biden’s war. But he didn’t. Insofar as BRICS+ is looking for a reasonable Russia, they are confused as to the nature of the US ruling class, and ignorant of the history of the last century. In my opinion, we are already in midst of WWIII, a war fought in hybrid form. WWII didn’t look like WWI, why should WWIII look like either?
The US ruling class is driven to fight for its hegemony by its nature. There is no secret cabal, called the Deep State, that chooses imperialist policies for its personal benefit. Therefore, there can be no hero to heroically seizes total power to break the cabal. There can be a fake hero who seizes untrammeled power to fight for empire. (And this ruling class is not identified by their adherence to the ideas of the PMC, a category of people identified by mind reading instead of titles to property and the revenues from them.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 14 2025 19:36 utc | 69

IMHO Brian Berletic went too far out over his skis in even considering the possibility of an attempt the lives of the two presidents, so now we have his acolytes and fanbois cluttering up forums with their breathless anticipation.
It’s not going to happen, but just to humour said breathless acolytes, let’s explore things a little deeper:
An attempt is made, but it fails; then what?
Not only are there now some extremely angry Russians, but also an extremely angry Trump administration, both of whom are going to want to nail the perpetrators with extreme prejudice. Trump: “So we have 17 so-called intelligence agencies and none of you saw this coming? Guess what, you’re fired. And forget your pensions, they’re all in either the US stock market, which keeps closing as new ‘limit downs’ are reached, or the US Treasury market which has now gone “no bid”. I’m now declaring martial law, under which I am defunding all so-called intelligence agencies. Congress is suspended, pending criminal investigations and prosecutions.”
Meanwhile the Russians are busy peppering US bases in Europe and West Asia with conventional-tipped hypersonics.
No more talks are held.
Fantasy stuff of course, but no more fantasy than believing there is even the remotest possibility of such an attempt being made.
Not. Going. To. Happen.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 14 2025 19:37 utc | 70

A timely quote from Frank Herbert.
“The test of a man isn’t what you think he’ll do. It’s what he actually does.”

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 14 2025 19:38 utc | 71

demilitarisation and denazification was what the Russians said at the start
Posted by: English Outsider | Aug 14 2025 18:46 utc | 54

Denazification!? What exactly is denazification?
Seeing that many of the politicians in “neo-Nazi” Ukraine are Jews, or of Jewish descent, I wondered if the same may have been true in Nazi Germany. So, I checked the surnames of a large number of people from the Nazi era. What I found is truly amazing. Note that all surnames designated Jewish can be found in one of the books on Jewish Genealogy listed below.
Adolf Hitler [Jew surname].
Below is a list of Nazi Field Marshalls.
Looks like they were all of Jewish descent.
Fedor von Bock [Jew surname].
Werner von Blomberg [Jew surname].
Walther von Brauchitsch = Brauch-itsch [Jew surname-occupation (joiner)]
Ernst von Busch [Jew surname].
Hermann Göring = Gör-Ring [Jew surname-Jew surname] Luftwaffe.
Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb [variant of Jew surname Lieb?]
Wilhelm Keitel [Jew surname].
Albert Kesselring = Kessel-Ring [Jew surname-Jew surname] Luftwaffe.
Ewald von Kleist [Jew surname].
Gunther von Kluge [Jew surname].
Georg von Küchler [Jew surname].
Wilhelm List [Jew surname].
Erich von Manstein [Jew surname]. Born Lewinski [Jew surname].
Erhard Milch [Jew surname] Luftwaffe.
Walther Model [Jew surname].
Friedrich von Paulus [variant of the Jew surname Paul?]
Walther von Reichenau = Reiche-Nau = [Jew surname-Jew surname]
Erwin Rommel [variant of Jew names Frommel and Trommel?]
Gerd von Rundstedt = Rund-stedt [Jew surname-town]
Ferdinand Schörner [variant of the Jew surname Tschorne?]
Hugo Sperrle = Sperr-le = [Jew surname-common suffix] Luftwaffe.
Erwin von Witzleben [variant of Witzler-ben? Jew surname-son of]
Those of Jewish descent in Hitler’s life (non-military).
Martin Bormann [Jew surname]. Hitler’s private secretary. Money man.
Eva Braun [Jew surname]. Hitler’s mistress and wife.
Hans Frank [Jew surname]. Hitler’s lawyer.
Ulrich Graf [Jew surname]. Hitler’s personal companion 1920-1923.
Gertrud Junge [Jew surname] nee Gertrud Humps. Hitler’s private secretary.
Theodor Morell [Jew surname]. One of Hitler’s personal physicians.
Karl Brandt [Jew surname]. One of Hitler’s personal physicians.
Albert Speer [Jew surname]. Hitler’s personal architect and city planner.
Fritz Wiedemann [Jew surname]. Personal adjutant to Hitler.
Julius Schreck [Jew surname]. Hitler’s chauffeur.
Karl von Frank [Jew surname]. Hitler’s genealogist.
Hugo Blaschke [Jew surname]. Hitler’s dentist.
Hugo Erlanger [Jew surname]. Hitler’s landlord for ten years.
Some others.
Adolf Eichmann [Jew surname]. Head of the Scientific Museum for Jewish Affairs.
Rudolf Hess [Jew surname]. Deputy to the Fuehrer.
Heinrich Himmler [Jew surname]. Leading National Socialist politician.
Alfred Rosenberg [Jew surname]. Leading proponent of National Socialist ideology.
Julius Streicher [Jew surname]. National Socialist politician.
Wilhelm Messerschmitt [Jew surname]. Aircraft designer and manufacturer.
Hjalmar Schacht [Jew surname]. Financier, president of the Reichsbank.
Joseph Goebbels [variant of the Jew surname Göbel?] National Socialist politician and propagandist.
Reinhard Heydrich = Heyd-Rich [Jew surname-Jew surname] Administrator of the concentration camps.
Here is a list of Nazi Chiefs of General Staff.
They were probably all of Jewish descent.
Heinz Guderian [Jew surname]. Chief of General Staff Jul 1944 to Mar 1945
Adolf Heusinger [Jew surname] Chief of General Staff Jun 1944 to Jul 1944
Kurt Zeitzler [variant of the Jew name Weitzler?] Chief of General Staff Sep 1942 to Jul 1944
Franz Halder [variant of the Jew name Halde?] Chief of General Staff Sep 1938 to Sep 1942
Ludwig Beck [Jew surname] Chief of General Staff Jul 1935 to Aug 1938
Various leaders.
იოსებ ჯუღაშვილი [variant of the Jew name ჯუდაშვილი] (Joseph Stalin) General Secretary of the Soviet Union; ჯუდაშვილი translated means “son of Judah”.
Mikhail Gorbachev [variant of the Jew name Gorbaczyński?] President of the Soviet Union
Boris Yeltsin [variant of the Jew name Peltson?] President of Russia
Vladimir Putin [variant of the Jew names Jutin Kutin Mutin Rutin Yutin?] President of Russia [Владимир Путин]
Angela Merkel [Jew surname] nee Kasner [Jew surname] Chancellor of Germany
Olaf Sholtz [variant of the Jew name Shultz?] Chancellor of Germany
Friedrich Merz [Jew surname] Chancellor of Germany
Adolf Hitler [Jew surname] Chancellor of Germany
Annalena Baerbock Baer-Bock [Jew surname-Jew surname] German Foreign Minister
Johann Wadephul Wade-Phul [Jew surname-Jew surname] German Foreign Minister
Franklin Roosevelt [variant of the Jew name Rosenfelt] President USA
George Bush [variant of the Jew name Busch?] President USA
Donald Trump [variant of the Jew name Trumpf?] President USA
Keir Starmer [variant of the Jew surnames St{eiuü}rmer?] British Prime Minister
Stepan Bandera [variant of the Jew surname Bander?] Ukrainian Nationalist
Volodymyr Zelensky [Jew surname] President of Ukraine
Volodymyr Groysman [Jew surname] Prime Minister of Ukraine
Denys Shmigal [variant of the Jew name Schmigelski] Prime Minister of Ukraine
Vitali Klitschko [variant of the Jew name Klitsch?] Mayor of Kiev
Lech Kaczyński [Jew surname] President of Poland
Jarosław Kaczyński [Jew surname] Prime Minister of Poland
Mateusz Morawiecki [variant of the Jew names Morawiec Morawietz etc?] Prime Minister of Poland
Mark Rutte [Jew surname] Dutch Prime Minister; NATO Secretary General 2024-
Pedro Sanchez [Jew surname] Spanish Prime Minister
Bart De Wever [Jew surname] Belgian Prime Minister
Giorgia Meloni [variant of the Jew name Melon?] Italian Prime Minister
Kaja Kallas [variant of the Jew names Khallas Callas Challas?] Prime Minister of Estonia
Mette Frederiksen [Jew surname-son of] Prime Minister of Denmark
Petr Pavel [Jew surname] Czech President; Chief of the NATO Military Committee
Klaus Johannis [Jew surname] President of Romania
Jaap Scheffer [Jew surname] NATO Secretary General 2004-2009
Jens Stoltenberg [variant of the Jew name Stoltzenberg?] NATO Secretary General 2014-2024
Charles Michel [Jew surname] European Council President
Ursula von der Leyen [Jew surname] nee Albrecht [Jew surname] President of the European Commission
Note that all the surnames designated Jewish can be found in one of these books:
Handbook of Ashkenazic Given Names and Their Variants by Alexander Beider
A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from Galicia by Alexander Beider
A Dictionary of German-Jewish Surnames by Lars Menk
Handbook of Ashkenazic Given Names and Their Variants by Alexander Beider
A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from Italy, France and “Portuguese” Communities by Alexander Beider
A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames from Maghreb, Gibraltar, and Malta by Alexander Beider
The Jacobi Papers: Genealogical Studies of Leading Ashkenazi Families by Paul Jacobi & Emanuel Elyasaf

Posted by: Everything is false | Aug 14 2025 19:38 utc | 72

Yes, I think the Ruskie delegation will be fine, but doesn’t hurt to review Mangas Coloradas about parley with los diablos blancos:

In the summer of 1862, after recovering from a bullet wound in the chest, Mangas Coloradas met with an intermediary to call for peace. In January 1863, he decided to meet with U.S. military leaders at Fort McLane (Apache Tejo) in southwestern New Mexico. He was promised provisions in return for peace, but the American government did not want to have peace with them. Mangas arrived under a flag of truce to meet with Brigadier General Joseph R. West, an officer of the California militia and a future Reconstruction senator from Louisiana. Armed soldiers took Mangas into custody. West gave an execution order to the sentries.
Men, that old murderer has got away from every soldier command and has left a trail of blood for 500 miles on the old stage line. I want him dead tomorrow morning. Do you understand? I want him dead.
That night, Mangas was tortured, shot, and killed under the pretext of a supposed escape attempt. While tied on the ground, Mangas was provoked with red hot bayonets until he moved to simulate his attempt to “escape.” The following day, some soldiers who were fascinated by the size of the Apache (Mangas was 6 feet, 6 inches tall), cut off his head, boiled it, and sent the skull to Orson Squire Fowler, a phrenologist in New York City…
The mutilation of Mangas’s body especially enraged the Apaches since they believed he would not enter the afterlife without his head. This further envenomed the conflict between the Apaches and the United States, leading Cochise to engage in a nine-year campaign of reprisals in Arizona and Sonora.
“>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangas_Coloradas

Pity the Apaches didn’t have nukes.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 14 2025 19:42 utc | 73

@alpi 42
My point exactly and the biggest red flag of all ie why not meet on neutral venue? eg riyadh, abu dhabi etc. If americans decide to arrest putin who could stop them?
I don’t think the deepstate/establishment/newcons will risk killing putin on american soil. More fun for the them to see putin on trial and being humiliated.
Donny probably thinking like a mafiaso, (I will make an offer he can’t refuse ie godfather style) ~ remember he was being called a daddy not too long ago.
I don’t blame b. He is confused as is everyone else because this whole think just doesn’t make any sense. From 50 days tarrif threat to 10 days ulitmatum to meeting face to face on american soil. Donny did the same with iran talks. Putin thinks he is untouchable but if he does get arrested what could the russians do to get him released? nothing! No one’s going to start a nuclear war over one guy.
Like I said these are crazy times. Head of states/forces aren’t off limits anymore. If anything does happen one reason would be to divert attention from gaza.

Posted by: bee | Aug 14 2025 19:42 utc | 74

wagelaborer | Aug 14 2025 18:57 utc | 56–
My post-Soviet Era research on Russia shows the Russian government to be very concerned about the environment, primarily because environmental pollution shortens lifespans and causes debilitating birth defects, is easier to prevent than clean up and has shown it costs a great deal to treat the maladies it produces. Russia has instituted a 100% recycling program for all products it produces and has solved the nuclear fuel cycle so no wastes need to be stored, and those previously stored can now be burned as fuel. Massive clean-up campaigns in the Arctic of Soviet Era pollution occur every Summer. And Climate Change concerns are very seriously taken–there’s no denial as we see with the Empire. The oil spill that happened in the Azov Sea last year got top level attention and many follow ups by Putin on the situation. There’s also the twin issues of annual floods and wildfires that consume leadership’s attention and hefty budget funding. UAVs are being developed as water tankers for fighting those fires. More could be listed but this ought to suffice as evidence that Russians and their government are concerned about their world and its health.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 14 2025 19:45 utc | 75

IMO, Mr. Berletic is a cautionary tale.
When one becomes so convinced of their perspective they become immune to new information or alternatives. A form of intellectual death.
We see it when people become obsessed with an ideology or celebrity. They stop seeing the errors and weaknesses, often leading to the disciple’s destruction.
Any of us can be wrong. Only God is omniscient.
What will happen in Alaska? We’ll know in 24 hours.
In my experience, probably nothing. Life rarely meets our expectations for heroism or drama.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 14 2025 19:49 utc | 76

As of last night Russia restricted the use of Whatsapp and Telegram.
Posted by: Montreal | Aug 14 2025 17:57 utc | 40

Only the calling function. Chats and voice messages work fine.

Posted by: S | Aug 14 2025 19:51 utc | 77

How can someone give pancreatic cancer to someone?

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 14 2025 19:04 utc | 60
Feed them on McDonalds perhaps? I dunno, never touch the stuff myself…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 14 2025 19:53 utc | 78

There’s enough intrigue here for a Tom Clancy novel. Headquarters for both heavyweight contestants are I think roughly equidistant from Anchorage…a pretty long distance for either of them. Body doubles, food tasters, circuitous routes, the whole bit. I wouldn’t be surprised if both of them moved closer for the night, at least, so they’ll be bright eyed and bushy tailed for the big showdown.

Posted by: chunga | Aug 14 2025 19:54 utc | 79

Another observation: the Euro wimps showed extreme restraint by not asking for Putin’s imprisonment yet. 🙂
The problem is not about making wrong predictions. That’s unavoidable if you’re doing it for long enough. The interesting thing is people deal with it. We’ll see tha too.

Posted by: Konami | Aug 14 2025 19:54 utc | 80

for example agreeing to build a tunnel under the Bering Strait,
Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 14 2025 19:08 utc | 62
What possible utility could such a tunnel have, given that so few people live at either end of it and neither end has road or rail links connecting it to their respective mainlands?

Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 14 2025 19:56 utc | 81

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 14 2025 19:45 utc | 74
Do you have any information about how Russia disposes of their spent nuclear fuel and other nuclear waste? I’ve heard accusations they’ve dumped a lot into the ocean. They have a huge mess at Chernobyl that can never be cleaned up, and they keep building more nuke power plants (putatively “safe”) including for other countries. Of course, the West also has a terrible history of nuclear pollution from nuke power plants and weapons production, ongoing.

Posted by: norecovery | Aug 14 2025 20:02 utc | 82

@ChatNPC | Aug 14 2025 19:56 utc | 80
Well, some people have given the idea some thought: https://www.interbering.com/
It would not be a local train, I agree with that.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 14 2025 20:02 utc | 83

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 14 2025 18:54 utc | 55
I wonder if they gave it to Frank Zappa.

Posted by: A rope leash | Aug 14 2025 20:04 utc | 84

Hopehely 60,
Radiation poisoning is favored by British/Israeli/American 3LAS. They probably bumped off FDR with radioactive isotopes…and others too countless to name. And let’s face it, without genocide, murder, extortion, kidnapping and blackmail the people who comprise the 3LAs are without any discernible talent.
That said, it’s unlikely the 3LAs British/Israeli/American will murder Putin because they’ve spent so much effort to “Hitlerize” the man they wouldn’t want to start afresh. Plus, whoever replaces Putin is far more likely to end the human experiment…and that would be bad for our rulers asset prices.
It’s also unlikely with Trump. Why? Because Vance would be far worse for the fourth branch of government, the 3LAs. Now if they could bump off Trump and Vance before Vance picks a new VP, then Rubio would take office and the halls of the 3LAs would echo with joyous celebrations. I wouldn’t put it past them trying but, given their incredible record of failure, attempting a triple bank shot across the entire table is a bit of a reach for our talentless 3LAs.

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 14 2025 20:09 utc | 85

Jeremy Rhymings-Lang @ 77

Feed them on McDonalds perhaps? I dunno, never touch the stuff myself…

Expensive and slow, best stick the stiletto tip of your MI6 umbrella in a Big Mac and jab your victim getting off the bus. Burger King, Subway, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut will work just as well, whatever is cheapest and close to headquarters.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 14 2025 20:14 utc | 86

Brian Berletic went too far out over his skis…so now we have his fanbois cluttering up forums with breathless anticipation.” – JRL 69
Nice line…

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 14 2025 20:17 utc | 87

Thanks b.
I believe the Northern passage has immediate benefits compared to mineral deals. See Martyanov’s post re nuclear ice breakers.
Enough about “Jews”.
The Isrealites were black.
Moses was mistaken for an Egyptian twice.
Joseph was mistaken by his own brothers who sold him as an Egyptian.
Solomon said ” I am black and beautiful”.
Abram met with Melchizedek, King of Salem and non Hebrew and was blessed by him.
Scribes in the court of Cyrus, the messiah who free the Isrealites described their priests as wearing leapord skin, beating drums and singing like the people of Kush.
Jesus is described as having white wooly hair and burnt feet.
Ethiopian Bibles and imagery all show angles and Jesus as black, same as the Nubians of Egypt.
Hebrew is a branch of Amharic still spoken by Ethiopian priests.
Deuteronomy 28:68 ..forced to return to Egypt and sold into slavery…
is about the abduction and slavery of the very people from West Africa who circumcised boys on the 8th day, practiced sabbath and had a covenant with the God most high.
All which occurred during the great white washing of the Bible.
Enough with the white washing.

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 14 2025 20:19 utc | 88

The Russians and Trump better be REAL careful, that’s a freaking lot of High Value Russian targets in 1 place at one time with limited ways in and out. Its a NEOCONS or Ukraine Nazi’s wet dream.
Posted by: SoCoRuss | Aug 14 2025 16:35 utc | 9

Before they arrive, they will be all in one plane. And there is no way out until the plane lands, if it lands. Am I correct?

Posted by: Naive | Aug 14 2025 20:19 utc | 89

Ukraine is still very strong and they can start a guerilla war right now.

Posted by: vargas | Aug 14 2025 20:20 utc | 90

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 14 2025 19:53 utc | 77
> Feed them on McDonalds perhaps? I dunno, never touch the stuff myself…
Me neither, but didn’t Obama feed Medvedev with that crap?
Or perhaps there is a deluxe presidential edition of McBurgers that Trump is gorging on.
With the most beautiful chocolate cake. Now THAT is something that could be dangerous.

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 14 2025 20:22 utc | 91

wargaslighting is never short of some stupidities.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 14 2025 20:22 utc | 92

re: Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 14 2025 20:09 utc | 84
Succession: JD (vp), Johnson (house speaker), Grassley (senate pres pro tem), then Rubio (sec state). F’d all the way down.

Posted by: pokums | Aug 14 2025 20:23 utc | 93

No Odessa and the Black Sea ports surrender coupled with the land bridge to Transnistria and no deal……..bottom line, besides DJT wants Volo out of the picture……he hates Volo with a passion!

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 14 2025 20:25 utc | 94

Vargas 89 – so the Hungarian conscripts are going to start an insurgency when the UAF army collapses?
Really?

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 14 2025 20:27 utc | 95

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 14 2025 20:19 utc | 87
Please, reassure me. You do not take all those myths seriously. I mean you do not take them as real history?!

Posted by: Naive | Aug 14 2025 20:27 utc | 96

Posted by: vargas | Aug 14 2025 20:20 utc | 89
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Are you sniffing Zelensky’s white powder again?
If I had to guess, Trump will not do anything to help Russia. Russia will have to continue destroying the power of NATO and the Nazi Ukrainian state, which will probably be the most enduring and efficient result.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 14 2025 20:30 utc | 97

Doesn’t make sense to me unless they have the same ruling class. To go visit those that have tried to kill you, that have used the lowest ways to do the lowest things over and over… to make agreements with liars? All bullshit. There is no axis of resistance.

Posted by: Rae | Aug 14 2025 20:30 utc | 98

Fantasy stuff of course, but no more fantasy than believing there is even the remotest possibility of such an attempt being made.
Not. Going. To. Happen.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 14 2025 19:37 utc | 69
There’s a reason the summit is taking place in Alaska. It’s much harder to move in fresh military assets without being noticed, or divert American planes to bomb targets.
And obviously, a deep state attack on a military base will convince a lot of soldiers that it’s time for revenge. But then, the Russians really want this summit to go ahead, hence why they sent much of their cabinet.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Aug 14 2025 20:35 utc | 99

Posted by: vargas | Aug 14 2025 20:20 utc | 89
> Ukraine is still very strong and they can start a guerilla war right now.
Flatland guerilla, hiding in cornfields.
Tequila guerilla, kukuruku-ku…

Posted by: hopehely | Aug 14 2025 20:36 utc | 100