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August 27, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-196

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

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There aren’t words to describe the horror. Its tempting to blame our species, but that would be unfair. Most human beings have no inherent need to dominate, murder and rape. There is something utterly alien and yet harrowingly familiar about the evil that has risen in Palestine since 1947 and the slavish subservience of Western power to that evil.
What exactly has happened to us as a species that we allow a group of us, of influence and temporal power, to starve children to death? For people who pretend to have faith, to be a part of humanity? How could you participate even passively in such fucking horror and remain human?
I do not know how to reconcile this great crime.. bleak times are ahead for our species, one which somehow represents still great innocence and goodness beneath this institutionalized, dominant evil is the zeitgeist of our age.
Fuck these grasping psychopaths and all they have wrought.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 28 2025 19:59 utc | 101

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Posted by: Effete | Aug 28 2025 20:13 utc | 102

Iran’s must demand that the IAEA inspect Israel’s nukes first.

Posted by: Willow | Aug 28 2025 20:26 utc | 103

102.
Oh cmon now you fucking nazi, dont you have something to say, some words to excuse how shitty a human being you are? How you like killing kids?
Supporters of Israel are beneath my contempt. Effete is the best you can come up with sat up there in your little sparkly princess panties? Fucking piece of shit. Supporters of murdering and raping children are complete monsters that I wouldn’t piss on if they were on fire. Its good you reserve your bitch talk to online fora.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 28 2025 20:30 utc | 104

I don’t think the West, and especially Israel are nearly as civilized as the Iranians and Ansar Allah.
Ansar Allah is fighting what St. Augustine called a ” Just War”.
They are not trying to kill people.
They are trying to degrade military capacity. And Block Trade.
All worthy Objectives.
I Respect the Lions of Ansar Allah.

Posted by: Effete | Aug 28 2025 20:32 utc | 105

https://x.com/TonyN47243342/status/1960700255076237357
Tony N @TonyN47243342
Israel kidnapped over 18,500 Palestinian hostages** in the West Bank (includes Jerusalem; does not include Gaza) between 7 Oct 2023 & 3 Aug 2025, In first half of 2025, Israel kidnapped 3,850 Palestinian hostages (incl about 400 children & 125 women) in West Bank. Data from these sources:
WAFA: https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/159893
Palestinian Prisoner Society: https://ppsmo.ps/home/studies/17582?culture=ar-SA
This data does not include Palestinians kidnapped in Gaza since no knows exactly how many Palestinians have been kidnapped there by Israel.
** These Palestinians are hostages kidnapped by Israel. Israel’s arrests, detentions and imprisonments of Palestinians conducted in Palestine are unlawful given that all of Israel’s activities are unlawful in Israel’s illegal occupation of the Palestinian territories. The International Cout Of Justice ruled that Israel’s occupation, presence & activities in all Palestinian territories have been unlawful. Israel’s illegal occupation began in 1967 (following Israel’s crime of aggression when it invaded Egypt & Egyptian-controlled Gaza).
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/07/experts-hail-icj-declaration-illegality-israels-presence-occupied
Amnesty International: https://amnesty.ca/human-rights-news/icj-opinion-occupation-unlawful-historic-vindication-palestinians-rights/
https://x.com/AMPalestine/status/1940774028777541873
American Muslims for Palestine @AMPalestine
American Muslims for Palestine (AMP) has released a new, data-driven report titled The Carceral History of Occupied Palestine, offering one of the most statistically comprehensive analyses to date of Israel’s incarceration practices in Palestine. Drawing on more than five decades of arrest records, military court data, demographic trends, aid appropriations, and prison statistics, the report provides an evidence-based account of how incarceration has functioned as a central pillar of Israel’s occupation.
Read the full report here:
https://ampalestine.org/educate/public
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PooUYpQ-qKo
‘ACT CIVILIZED’ U.S. Elite Panic as Hezbollah Rejects Disarmament Demands | Laith Marouf
Rachel Blevins 143K subscribers
Israel is coming up with new excuses and blaming an invisible “Hamas surveillance camera” for its latest massacre in Gaza, which killed Palestinian journalists, aid workers and hospital staff in a double strike on Nasser Hospital.
Meanwhile, U.S. Envoy Tom Barrack is facing widespread backlash after he told reporters to “act civilized” at a press conference during his visit to Beirut, and warned that he would stop taking questions if the room became “animalistic.”
Palestinian-Syrian Journalist Laith Marouf, Executive Director of Free Palestine TV, noted that the U.S. and Zionist elite are becoming frustrated at their lack of control—both over the Palestinians and their resistance to the ongoing genocide against them, and to Hezbollah’s refusal of all disarmament demands, as Israel continues to violate the ceasefire in Lebanon.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 28 2025 21:55 utc | 106

Remember how they told us we’d all forget about Gaza?
Hell came and went but Gaza remains in the frame.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 28 2025 22:42 utc | 107

Am I the only person who has noticed that the Good Jews have done nothing to persuade the Genocide Jews to stop mass-murdering Palestinians?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 28 2025 23:05 utc | 108

Mahmood OD: Israel Strikes The Houthi Command
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GY5WnWytgs
“Israeli attack during leader’s speech / Bigger escalation ahead.”
R2R: The Most Abject Vassal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RvCS6Z8o7U
“Cypriot govt rolls out the red carpet for Israeli war criminals.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 28 2025 23:07 utc | 109

Am I the only person who has noticed that the Good Jews have done nothing to persuade the Genocide Jews to stop mass-murdering Palestinians?
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 28 2025 23:05 utc | 108
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No.
Col. Baud discussed this very issue in detail in his interview on Monday with Nima Alkhorshid.
The moral failure of Jewish communities everywhere, but he was talking especially about France.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 28 2025 23:08 utc | 110

Posted by: Jane | Aug 28 2025 23:08 utc | 110
Thanks – better than nothing I suppose…
Also… a brilliant piece of reporting from abc.net.au yesterday:
Film of Oz Parliament during Jew$lave Albanese’s undiplomatic Iran Eviction speech, with Oz’s Head Jew from AIJAC sitting directly behind Albo in the back row.
The Jew Plague continues…

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 28 2025 23:39 utc | 111

North Korea has test-fired an ICBM capable of reaching the whole of continental U.S.A.
They also claim to have tested home-grown Nukes.
I wonder how much money we’d have to collect and pay the North Koreans to Nuke Tel Aviv and make the World infinitely more Peaceful?
Imo, there are Jewish fingerprints on ~50%+ of the World’s military conflicts.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 28 2025 23:54 utc | 112

I wonder how much money we’d have to collect and pay the North Koreans to Nuke Tel Aviv and make the World infinitely more Peaceful?
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 28 2025 23:54 utc | 112
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Chairman Kim hates Zionists. He might do it for free if Russia and China let the DPRK off its leash.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 29 2025 0:27 utc | 113

see the 3:05 video at the first/second link
see the 59-second video at the third link
https://x.com/yarahawari/status/1960413303408107882
Dr. Yara Hawari د. يارا هواري @yarahawari
They want you to believe that Israeli regime surveillance is so precise that it can see a camera set up on the stairwell of a hospital building but can’t see all the journalists and civil defence workers around it.
https://x.com/SkyNews/status/1960383756813918643
Sky News @SkyNews
BREAKING: The IDF claims that it struck Gaza’s Nasser Hospital because its troops saw ‘a camera set up by Hamas’ that was being used to ‘observe IDF troops’.
Gaza’s health ministry says the strike killed at least 20 people. @adamparsons reports ⬇️
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https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1960440758936461345
Suppressed News. @SuppressedNws
⚡️JUST IN:
Channel 14 reported that soldiers from the Golani reconnaissance unit, who carried out the Nasser Hospital massacre in Khan Yunis, are furious at Netanyahu for calling it a “mistake” and are demanding an apology.
The attack used the army’s “double-tap” tactic, killing at least 20 Palestinians, including five journalists, along with civilians and rescue workers. The massacre was broadcast live, went viral, and drew Netanyahu’s public apology, which enraged the unit that insists it acted under orders and not by error.
Source: TheCradle.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 29 2025 0:37 utc | 114

Thanks – better than nothing I suppose…
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Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 28 2025 23:39 utc | 111
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Yes, most Jews walk around in a normal fashion as if nothing whatsoever is wrong.
Or they or their leaders play the antisemitism card in one way or another (limited hangout types of op=eds by rabbi in a local paper).
The Zionists demand to be seen to represent all Jews.
But Baud points out that this is backfiring.
At least in France.
If “normal” Jews fail to speak up and challenge the “antisemitism” card, they are letting the Zionists speak for them, and incriminate them.
Silence = consent.
That’s my take.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 29 2025 0:37 utc | 115

⚡️⭕️Iranian Parliamentary Draft Resolution submitted by a number of MPs in Response to European Troika Decision:
Iran’s Withdrawal from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty
Halt all talks with the United States and European countries
Halting cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency

https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1961186480510132710
I love the collapse of the mechanisms of Imperialism.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 29 2025 0:40 utc | 116

Jules | Aug 28 2025 9:46 utc | 74
Iran’s government is so completely infested with Mosad operatives decisons like that are not out of the norm. They pay a kings ransom for information and actions like this. The IRG has been shaking down the population for decades. So they take Israeli money and thats a surprise? They were working closely with them during the Iran Iraq war.
There are no surpries here, just entrepreneurs.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 29 2025 1:04 utc | 117

Arch Bungle | Aug 28 2025 0:34 utc | 28
*** The Jews, having been impotent for two thousand years, are now hopelessly drunk on their newfound power.***
No, the self-appointed “chosen” megalomanic narcissists spent over two thousand years malevolently concocting ever more vicious ‘religious’ diatribes and manipulating proxies to cause trouble almost everywhere while creating opportunities for their own profit and advancement … till finally they attained a level of power where could do most of such things overtly — eventually even boasting of the fact.
And, it would seem, get away with it all.

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 29 2025 1:07 utc | 118

AL Manar – Lebanon
“Fateh Movement Completes Handing Over Weapons to Lebanese Army in Tyre Camps“
“In the context of the agreement between the *Lebanese government and the **Palestinian Authority, Fateh* Movement completed on Thursday the process of handing over weapons from Tyre refugee camps.
The process of *handing over Palestinian weapons* to the Lebanese Army took place in the Rashidieh, Al-Buss, and Burj al-Shamali refugee camps in Tyre. Seven trucks loaded with light weapons and B7 shells left the camps and entered the Second Intervention Regiment barracks in Shawakir.
“The handover took place in the presence of the Consul General in Tyre, Ramadan Dimashkieh, Major General Sobhi Abu Arab, Head of Palestinian National Security, Brigadier General Suhail Harb, South Lebanon Intelligence chief, Brigadier General Jihad Khaled, Commander of the Second Intervention Regiment, Colonel Mohammed Hazer, Head of the Tyre Intelligence Office, and a number of senior army officers.”
Gaza Palestinians & Fatah Palestinians seem pretty far apart in aims. You can blame “Abbas” for only so much, the rest as we’ve seen with pretty limited rise in West Bank, a conditioned view to be assimilated. The fact that they have never marched into the PA municipal building and hoisted Abbas out, says a lot.
I would have thought in Lebanon, they would have more resolve and strength.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 29 2025 1:41 utc | 119

Re:” Its almost as if the leadership will along with popular sentiment for retaliation to stay in power, but as soon as the heat dies down, they’ll go back to doing their best to self sabotage.”
Posted by: Jules | Aug 28 2025 6:15 utc | 54
A couple things.
1). Iran now has a defense council, all decisions go thru the council. The council allowed this one time inspection, at a particular site, for a particular reason. The council now has to give consent per accommodation.
2) Even without JCPOA, being a member of the NNP Treaty,
IEAE inspectors are required to be there and sign off on certain things, like fuel rod change outs.
3) Possible Russia holds license for this plant, it was started by Germany, then Germany walked off, and it took Russia years to re-work and reconfigure the thing to get it running, so Russia probably wanted an “official” inspection & sign off.
4) Iran will never allow the extraordinary and invasive inspections they were subjected to again. Should they maintain NPT Treaty, Iran will demand IEAE inspections that are minimal mandates per the treaty as other nations.
Once JCPOA expires (10-18 ) and snapback done, Iran May stay in NPT Treaty, it’s an unknown.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 29 2025 2:09 utc | 120

Iran now has a defense council, all decisions go thru the council.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 29 2025 2:09 utc | 120
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Yeah, they had a sort of soft coup. The hard military men no longer answer to the liberal civilian authority when it comes to martial matters.
When things get serious, the goofy kids get sent out of the room so the adults can handle business.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 29 2025 2:51 utc | 121

The Houthi leadership have all been blasted into pieces of burning flesh and horrible stank. Too bad, so sad.

Posted by: Uncle Adolph | Aug 29 2025 5:52 utc | 122

Posted by: Uncle Adolph | Aug 29 2025 5:52 utc | 122
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The resistance will never die and will never stop until every pedophile is removed.
If Israelis h

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 29 2025 6:20 utc | 123

Moving Home: Roots, Routes and Ruins
An introductory essay to a series on Zionism’s five main ideological currents and their legacy for modern debates on belonging, migration and estrangement.
https://www.beyondwasteland.net/p/moving-home-roots-routes-and-ruins

Posted by: KevinB | Aug 29 2025 6:22 utc | 124

Fat fingered that.
Muslims are fighting an existential battle.
Israelis are soft and weak. Many appear to have Downs Syndrome, probably due to the inbreeding.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 29 2025 6:24 utc | 125

Where are the Christians on the genocide of Gazan Christians?
Nick Fuentes would like to know.
https://x.com/HussainShafiei/status/1961252093140095152

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 29 2025 6:33 utc | 126

Russia has evacuated its embassy in Occupied Entity.
US has evacuated bases in Iraq.
Non stop rearmanent of the OE by US.
MOAT – Galloway with ret Col MacGregor.
2 Russian bombers landed in Venezuela.
IAEA in Iran has no effect except to show that the JCPOA is useless and Iran will withdraw from the NPT.
I wish Iran and Hezb’Allah would show the resolved of the North Koreans in standing up to intimidation. Iran’s losses in the war with Iraq cannot compare to the losses suffered in the Korean war. NK commandos used to run riot in the South back in the 80s. It has never back down from firing first. Any wonder why US doesn’t FAFO?
Once upon a time, Hezb’Allah struck a devastating blow against the US and French occupiers and heroically fought the invaders, ending occupation. When did their leaders go soft?
Both Iran and Hezb’Allah need to grow a pair and take the fight to the evil malignancy growing in their backyard.

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 29 2025 7:49 utc | 127

And, it would seem, get away with it all.
Posted by: Cynic | Aug 29 2025 1:07 utc | 118

Wikipedia is reportedly being pressured to remove “early life” section after ADL refers to it as “coded hate” weaponized to promote bigotry amid US Congress investigation

And soon they will get away with it all by scrubbing the history of who is, was a Jew and exactly what role they played in tipping Humankind into the sewer of history.
At this point we have to acknowledge that the Jews are not the problem.
After all, a born murderer and thief, an ingrained liar and userer can only behave as he is designed to.
It is the victim that insists on remaining a victim over and over again that is to blame.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 29 2025 8:12 utc | 128

If “normal” Jews fail to speak up and challenge the “antisemitism” card, they are letting the Zionists speak for them, and incriminate them.
Silence = consent.
That’s my take.
Posted by: Jane | Aug 29 2025 0:37 utc | 115
There are no “normal” Jews, they’re a deeply disturbed culture to a man.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 29 2025 8:15 utc | 129

see the 45-second video at the first/second link. the IDF are demons from Hell, and back to Hell we must send them
https://x.com/susanabulhawa/status/1961152563530641794
susan abulhawa | سوزان ابو الهوى @susanabulhawa
off camera, they beat these children. they rape them. burn them with cigarettes. terrorize them and laugh when they cry, wet themselves, and call for their parents.
https://x.com/trackingisrael/status/1961133827981533442
Israel Genocide Tracker @trackingisrael
Israeli soldiers filmed a Palestinian child they kidnapped during their invasion of Nablus, accusing him of throwing rocks at their armored vehicles.
The boy will be detained as a “disciplinary lesson,” the soldier says, interrogating and harassing him for not speaking Hebrew.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 29 2025 8:35 utc | 130

….. Gaza Palestinians & Fatah Palestinians seem pretty far apart in aim…….
Wrong – you might want to read the 2024 Peking Declaration.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Beijing_Declaration

Posted by: Exile | Aug 29 2025 10:24 utc | 131

Trita Parsi
@tparsi
This is what Germany does to its own citizens when they peacefully protest against Israel’s Gaza genocide, while Germany simultaneously lectures the rest of the world about human rights and the rule of law.
Perhaps I am naive, but I still believe a better Germany is possible. (I don’t – Menz)
https://x.com/tparsi/status/1961170212499382663

Posted by: Menz | Aug 29 2025 10:29 utc | 132

Senator Chris Van Hollen
@ChrisVanHollen
.@SenJeffMerkley
and I were just in Israel to discuss the situation in Gaza and press to end the war and return all the hostages.
We visited a @WFP
site in Israel with enough food to feed everyone in Gaza for 3 weeks. The Netanyahu govt’s weaponization of hunger must stop.
https://x.com/ChrisVanHollen/status/1961130857600590111
Senator Chris Van Hollen
@ChrisVanHollen
I visited Kerem Shalom, one of the 2 main crossings between Israel and Gaza, where @SenJeffMerkley
& I pointed out that the so-called Gaza Humanitarian Foundation’s delivery system is fatally flawed.
People are starving. The Netanyahu government must let more food into Gaza NOW.
https://x.com/ChrisVanHollen/status/1961227949140578712

Posted by: Menz | Aug 29 2025 10:36 utc | 133

Alan MacLeod
@AlanRMacLeod
The phrase “Hamas camera” will go down as one of the most infamous utterances of this genocide.
It will be studied in universities and journalism schools around the world for decades.
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The Associated Press
@AP
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Aug 27
BREAKING: The Israeli military says its strike on a Gaza hospital that killed 20 people, including five journalists, was aimed at what it believed was a Hamas camera. https://apnews.com/article/israel
https://x.com/AlanRMacLeod/status/1960562152655454209
The Cradle
@TheCradleMedia
A CNN investigation has revealed new details on Israel’s strike on Nasser Hospital in Khan Yunis, southern Gaza:
“A video clip shows that the second strike on the Nasser complex was actually two nearly simultaneous strikes, and it is believed that these second and third strikes caused most of the deaths; a weapons expert explained that the collision of two projectiles at the same moment indicates the possibility that two tanks fired at the target, while the video indicates a highly coordinated attack.”
https://x.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1961000635404259594

Posted by: Menz | Aug 29 2025 10:39 utc | 134

Gaza Notifications
@gazanotice
🚨BREAKING: After two weeks of being missing, the body of Dr. Fathi Abdelkarim Al-Raqab, a pediatric consultant, was found in Khan Younis Southern Gaza.
He was killed after being targeted by the Israeli army days ago, joining his son, the late Dr. Abdelkarim, and his brother Naim, who both were killed during the war.
https://x.com/gazanotice/status/1961126173951295912

Posted by: Menz | Aug 29 2025 10:40 utc | 135

The Attack on Palestine Chronicle
August 28, 2025
By Mohamed El Mokhtar
Common Dreams
The Palestine Chronicle is not a militant organization. It is a modest, independent publication, sustained by small donations and animated by a singular mission: to bear witness. It tells the untold stories of Palestine, documenting dispossession, resistance and the endurance of a people condemned to silence.
In a media landscape dominated by powerful conglomerates repeating the language of governments, the Chronicle insists on a journalism of proximity — grounded in daily lives, in the rubble of Gaza, in voices otherwise erased. Its true offense, in the eyes of its detractors, is not invention but truth.
At the heart of this endeavor stands Ramzy Baroud. His career is the antithesis of clandestine. For decades he has written, taught and spoken in public, producing books translated into multiple languages, contributing columns to international publications, addressing audiences in universities and public forums across continents.
He is not a shadowy figure; he is a man whose work has been consistent, transparent and intellectually rigorous. His life is not untouched by the tragedy he describes: Many members of his family were killed under Israeli bombardments. Yet while mainstream media rushed to amplify unproven allegations against him, they remained deaf to his personal grief. His tragedy was ignored, his integrity overlooked, his voice distorted — because his engagement is unbearable to those who would prefer silence.
[See Ramzy Baroud’s rebuttal of a former Israeli hostage’s U.S. lawsuit against him.]
MORE…
https://consortiumnews.com/2025/08/28/the-attack-on-palestine-chronicle/

Posted by: Menz | Aug 29 2025 10:42 utc | 136

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 29th August 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-b6a Cover Gaza and the ME

Posted by: The Busker | Aug 29 2025 11:31 utc | 137

As predicted by the Protocols of the learned elders of Zion, the laws of the goyim will no longer apply to the Jews:
🇺🇸🇮🇱 Israel’s National Cybersecurity Director, Tom Alexandrovich, skipped his Nevada court hearing
He was due to be at a court in Henderson, just outside Las Vegas, on Wednesday for a felony arraignment hearing, according to court records.
Local media, including the Las Vegas Review-Journal and local news station KLAS-TV, said he skipped the hearing. The Review-Journal quoted his lawyers as saying they had agreed with the district attorney’s office that Alexandrovich did not have to appear in person.
The judge was quoted by the newspaper as saying the district attorney’s office had no authority to make that agreement and ordered his appearance next week. The outlets said Alexandrovich’s lawyers arranged for him to appear remotely via Zoom.
🔗 https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-865532

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 29 2025 11:42 utc | 138

Live Blog: Israeli Deputy Commander Injured in Zaytoun as Israeli Massacres in Gaza Continue – Day 693
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/live-blog-israeli-deputy-commander-injured-in-zaytoun-as-israeli-massacres-in-gaza-continue-day-693/
“An Israeli army officer told Haaretz he decided to stop serving [genocide] after witnessing the orders of Operation Gideon’s Vehicles in Gaza. He said the war is being waged under the direction of an extremist group that does not represent the majority, stressing he could not continue sacrificing the lives of prisoners, soldiers and civilians for political considerations…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 29 2025 13:00 utc | 139

Mahmood OD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pHunN20vAc
“Egypt bypasses Israeli restrictions and trains a Palestinian army.”
Recommended.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 29 2025 13:08 utc | 140

The Cradle: Ep 108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GAHpbrMgyU
“US bares its fangs in Lebanon.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 29 2025 13:59 utc | 141

I think the first thing the Iranians should do after booting out the IAEA (which will eventually happen) is boot out their Russian collaborators in Busher.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 29 2025 14:23 utc | 142

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 29 2025 14:23 utc | 142
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That is not how the game is played.
Russia wants to use Iran and Iran wants to use Russia.
They both understand one another.
Getting emotional and punitive benefits neither party.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 29 2025 14:34 utc | 143

I take care of animals and in these days I have to encounter many people going down the stairs as my city is all in the stairs.
All if not most of my neighbors are renting, They will sacrifice any morality to get money.
I already hurt some zios on the stairs, I have beaten them up. I have expelled some rich zios from America from here by threatening them, they were gone next day, as I threatened them by violence.
Tonight I met a 7 crowd of meaty americans, some tattooed as they were not wearing t shirts, running down against me, on the road.
I said: CUNTS!
One turned back and asked what do you say, I repeated ‘american cunts’…He ran back.
Obviously, i will harm them as much as I can. cunts,aqs I know where did they originate-

Posted by: stranger | Aug 29 2025 16:10 utc | 144

@128 Arch
“After all, a born murderer and thief, an ingrained liar and userer can only behave as he is designed to.
It is the victim that insists on remaining a victim over and over again that is to blame.”
This is something I battle with, although there is no doubt circumstance congregates around judaism, as well as other definitions. If I win, I will let you know 🙂 .
The whole family of a reporter I was reading got blown up, has put me into deep contemplation, as I try to understand or absorb that. Makes writing seem trivial.
I did write something along the lines of the above at one point, but did not post it, on united for peace and UN also (which actually exists under ESS 10, but has not moved to defense of aid by force for whatever reason) .
Hard to make sense of anything much at the moment, political chaos…
Fatah camps hand in weapons in Lebanon
Fatah denied visas to US for Palestine recognition debate
Turkey cuts ties with “Israel”
UK bans “Israel” attendance at mil show.
“Israel” boycots UK …
Etc. It is hard to tell what is show, what is real…
Sometimes just better to be quiet and watch.
Gaza continues the same.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 29 2025 16:18 utc | 145

These are the consequences of appeasement:

US State Department:
– We have decided to revoke visas for members of the Palestinian Authority and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) ahead of the UN General Assembly.
– The Palestinian Authority and the PLO must consistently condemn “terrorism,” including the October 7 attacks.
– The Palestinian Authority must cease its campaign of international legal proceedings and resort to the International Criminal Court and International Court of Justice.
– The Palestinian Authority must cease seeking unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state.

Violence may not be the only way, but appeasement is certainly not the way.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 29 2025 16:19 utc | 146

stranger,
From small seeds big oaks grow.
SFSN

Posted by: Exile | Aug 29 2025 16:58 utc | 147

The way it might appear:
While some are trying to figure out what their creator means by all of this, and what the intent behind it is, ‘they’ are busy figuring out how to take, enslave, displace and if necessary or as example or for simplicity, kill.
‘They’ are busy setting the agenda while you are busy trying to figure out what it is. ‘They’ set the narrative and own the discussion, while you have only the answers they provide.
The means are supplied by their own ingenuity, driven by ambition or objectives that are their own, that have little or no regard for yourself or your own sentiments, beyond how those can be used or absorbed.
There is not the motivation to place oneself in danger while not being directly threatened. People do not as a whole pro-actively place their lives on the line because ‘someone might be trouble’, especially when that ‘someone’ is heavily armed. It is against normal human nature to seek out potential enemies and destroy them, human nature is to react to encroachment and direct menace.
‘They’ do that however, because it is their nature, because they have learned how to gain reward by doing so, because they have learned how to outmanipulate, and because they are in a position to be able to.
It doesn’t matter if ‘they’ are black, white, jewish or christian, european or asian. When you take away all the ‘story’ , the ‘excuse’, it is always the same.
Suggestions of “You will be next” are merely met by the reply “If we oppose them like you”. From all sides.
‘They’ have built up this ability, of being in a position to manipulate or threaten, by co-opting or persuading.
And because ‘they’ know the nature of people, populations and countries, they are now able to plan out a sequence of actions that is effective with a comparitively small force. It is always focused on the upcoming target to the point of being disuassive, persuassive, able to guarantee a form of conquest or coercion. The rest are left to watch and be thankful they are not in the sights, whether they have been fooled into thinking that, or are actually, safe, being irrelevant, because turn of events is unknown, adaptable, reprogrammable, depending on results or wishes that are not decided or decideable yet, and certainly not by most individuals.
I was just reading some history, and it occurred to me :
The region was promised pan-Arabism, but the result is going towards pan-“Israelism”.
Some “Israeli” minister, a couple of weeks back, was saying along the lines of “Gaza is on the path to Australia” .
Figure that, if it is for figuring. The ejection of the Iranian ambassador in Australia is not just domestic consumption, it is alignment and coalition.
Even Ukraine sometimes has the impression of being on hold until whatever goes on in the near east, has gone on. So that the negotiations can continue ‘properly’, with all cards necessary in hand to bargain out.
If we consider failure of whatever scheme would bring down many governments around the world, and throw the existing world order into upheaval, we might understand how invested or subjected so many in position are, around the world.
Which would be the point at which we start looking at organisation and influences. However even those are fallible and dependent, on the raw approach I outline at start, which is the combination of mode of action and practical abilities, that allows the rest to occur. You could take out different leaders or groups, but still the conflicts would persist, as long as someone was in a position to command those.
It really is not much of a backdrop to have for mankind, but what is anyone to do ? Meaning of course, what is the individual reading going to do about that ?
All I can think of is to keep the alternative reality alive, by protest, discussion, documentation and so on.
That would be a victory in itself, and is a necessity if refusal of the afore-mentioned concepts means anything, is to mean anything, to anyone.
Simply the idea that the violence and atrocity is and was surplus and unecessary, while we are attempted to be convinced and sold that it is.
There are also those who choose more definitive actions, as a stronger measure of testimony.
The plans regarding the middle-east are visible. No longer is it a projection or invented pressure, but “Israel” and the US and company have positioned themselves in a way that there is no retreat possible, where only ‘facts on the ground’, domination and superiority, will allow an acceptable evolution to those involved, an escape.
This is hard to comprehend for most people, but we see it unfolding again and again, as barrier after barrier is taken down. Meaning, the level of commitment is total.
There is no longer any ‘soft power’ standing at sidelines ready to mop up and present even a half solution. Like the negotiations in Palestine that are only a form of manipulation, so the rest of the world is being led along to a similar form of deception, to the point where all credibility is lost in attempts at resolution, where even the platforms created for such are seen as corrupt and tools of deceit.
Then where will we be…

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 29 2025 17:18 utc | 148

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 29 2025 16:19 utc | 146
I just saw that on one of the feeds. How can they talk about a two-state solution when one state is not allowed to attend? Of ccourse, Hamas would never be invited, and they would not be safe in the US in any case.
What is wrong with the freaking world????
Time to move the UN out of NY (or anywhere else in the US).
Here’s more on same topic:
The US State Department announced that Washington will not grant entry visas to Palestinian officials to participate in the upcoming UN conference on the two-state solution.
The State Department confirmed that Rubio decided to reject and revoke the visas of several members of the Palestinian Authority, including President Mahmoud Abbas, in a move aimed at preventing them from arriving in New York during the General Assembly.
According to US media reports, this move comes amid expectations that a number of countries will officially recognize the State of Palestine during the conference, a move Washington strongly opposes at this stage.
Palestinian Foreign Ministry: We express our surprise at Washington’s decision to prevent our delegation, headed by Abbas, from attending UN meetings next month.
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

Posted by: teri | Aug 29 2025 17:20 utc | 149

“Gaza, which will be invaded by the Mongols of the age, is centered in the middle of its old town, specifically in the Al-Daraj neighborhood, the shrine and tomb of the grandfather of our noble Prophet, Hashim bin Abd Manaf .
At the time when it is announced that the residents of “Hashim’s Gaza ” are being swept away by famine, the grandfather of our Prophet stands as reminder to the Arabs who will be killed by overeating, thanks to firstly the invaders of the Hijaz, and Arabs as a whole.
The grandfather of your Quraysh Prophet bore the name “Al-Hashim” because he saved the Hijaz and the Arabian Peninsula from perishing by starvation, when he would come to Gaza and carry back its abundant goodness and wheat , would bake it and then dry it, then the noble grandfather would order it to be “crumbled” into crumbs so that it would not spoil, and he would return with it to the Hijaz to be moistened with water and eaten by the hungry.
This is how Gaza was and its people were throughout history, a good, fertile land and a generous people whose goodness is abundant to the point of giving , and this is how it will remain and will return after this exception ends.
Peace be upon Gaza until the fire of its war is extinguished, and upon The grandfather of our noble Prophet, to whose Hashemite honor our beloved Gaza is attributed,
journalist Youssef Fares – the afflicted city of Gaza”
https://t.me/youseffares19/85997
Zeitoun neighbourhood 8th August and 25th August
https://t.me/youseffares19/86056

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 29 2025 17:29 utc | 150

Oh, forgot to mention, Netanyahu will be in NY in Sept for the UN meeting, despite the warrant for his arrest.

Posted by: teri | Aug 29 2025 17:44 utc | 151

https://x.com/liamcunningham1/status/1960944998033117198
liam cunningham @liamcunningham1
Shakespeare, Othello. Act 4. Scene 3
Written in 1603
“I know a lady in Venice would have walked barefoot to Palestine for a touch of his nether lip.”
https://x.com/anthonyzenkus/status/1961045063007420825
Prof Zenkus @anthonyzenkus
Democrats’ response to two children being murdered in a church: ban the guns
Democrats’ response to tens of thousands of children being slaughtered in Gaza? Keep sending the guns!!!
Don’t believe for a second that Democrats care one bit about gun violence.
https://x.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1961132816487350517
Craig Murray @CraigMurrayOrg
Tony Blair met Trump today to discuss Gaza.
The Tony Blair Institute already provided a report for Trump calling the destruction of Gaza a “once in a century opportunity” for commercial development.
Yes, really.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 29 2025 18:00 utc | 152

Most mainstream media have failed in their most bascic duty: they have largely manufactured consent, enabling a genocide in real time.
Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories
https://bergensia.com/bbc-is-part-of-israeli-genocides-propaganda-machine/

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Aug 29 2025 18:03 utc | 153

The other 94% of Congress, are bought and paid for and are in the pockets of AIPAC – public opinion is changing in America but like other Western nations their government (USA) doesn’t give a hoot to what the public thinks – serving Israel’s interests comes first.
“For the 1st Time, Over 50% of Americans Now Say It’s GENOCIDE.
Only 6% of Congress Agrees”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 29 2025 18:04 utc | 154