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August 3, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-175

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

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Another nail in the coffin…as if it is needed.
https://thecradle.co/articles-id/32277

Posted by: Otto Penn | Aug 3 2025 12:10 utc | 1

There are those that still say, “it began on October 7th, 2023”.
While we know it began decades ago.
But why Oct 7th, why not September 22, 15 days before that?
That is not the “beginning point”?
On that date, September 22, 2023, Netanyahu went before the UN and showed a
map with Palestine wiped away.
In that speech Netanyahu never mentions a Palestinian State.
He urges Palestinians to ‘finally embrace’ the Jewish State.
Is this declaration before the world not a truer beginning point than Oct 7th?
Nine days after Netanyahu wipes Palestine from the map
Israeli settlers began invading and defiling the al Aqsa Mosque.
They did this day after day after day in a major incitement.
Then October 7th Hamas responded and broke out of jail and infiltrated well
into occupied territory.
On Oct 3rd/4th, as you are by now aware, in an act of extreme betrayal, the IDF placed the infamous Rave Party
3 miles from the Gaza wall on the route to Hamas’ prime target (the IDF knew!),
the Re’im military base.
On Oct 7th at the Rave Party, Israel ordered up Apache helicopters to slaughter hundreds of party goers,
their own people. October 7th – another day of infamous betrayal.
[there is so much more…so many red flags that Israel not only let Oct 7th happen on purpose,
they MADE it happen on purpose.]
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September 22, 2023
Full text of Netanyahu’s UN address: ‘On the cusp of historic Saudi-Israel peace’
The PM predicts the potential blessing of ‘a new Middle East,’ says ‘fanatics’ leading Iran will try to stop it, urges Palestinians to ‘finally embrace’ the Jewish state

https://www.timesofisrael.com/full-text-of-netanyahus-un-address-on-the-cusp-of-historic-saudi-israel-peace/
In the speech Netanyahu accuses Iran of engaging in nuclear blackmail.
But then moments later Netanyahu says, “Sanctions must be snapped back and above all, Iran must face a credible nuclear threat.”
*Note: Netanyahu’s office later clarified that he misspoke when delivering his address, he meant to say “credible military threat.”
The Times of Israel, in a different article, provided this:

Palestinian Ambassador to Germany Laith Arafeh calls out Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for brandishing a map of the Middle East in his UNGA speech that showed the West Bank and Gaza as part of Israel.
“No greater insult to every foundational principle of the United Nations than seeing Netanyahu display before the UNGA a ‘map of Israel’ that straddles the entire land from the river to the sea, negating Palestine and its people, then attempting to spin the audience with rhetoric about ‘peace’ in the region, all the while entrenching the longest ongoing belligerent occupation in today’s world,” Arafeh tweets.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Aug 3 2025 13:26 utc | 3

The main headline and picture is this:
Israel’s Ben-Gvir says he prayed at Al-Aqsa mosque compound
subtext:
Under a delicate decades-old arrangement with Muslim authorities, Jews can visit but may not pray at the compound, which is one of the most sensitive points in the Middle East.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Aug 3 2025 13:36 utc | 4

@Posted by: Otto Penn | Aug 3 2025 13:36 utc | 4
Edit required. The comment was meant to begin:
At this moment Reuters has a main headline and photo of this:

Posted by: Otto Penn | Aug 3 2025 13:37 utc | 5

Where is Al-Julani?

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 3 2025 13:57 utc | 6

Large crowds March for Gaza in Sydney and Melbourne.
Sydney event closed the Harbour Bridge, which is always a Big Deal as it impacts traffic.
Sydney weather was foul, – cold, torrential rain.
But still the crowds were large.
Brave and Bravo.
BTW, Julian Assange was seen in the crowd in Sydney. So that’s another Good Thing

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 3 2025 14:15 utc | 7

see the 1:46 video at the first/second link. the zionist-jews of israel are barbarians
https://x.com/FiMelb99/status/1951534175841890534
Fiona @FiMelb99
“My scrub nurse that I was working with every single day was followed home by a quad copter drone, and it didn’t kill him on the way home… it waiting until he was home, in his tent, and greeted his three children and killed them all”
https://x.com/FiMelb99/status/1951534175841890534
Channel 4 News @Channel4News
Dr Nada Al Hadithy, a Consultant Plastic Surgeon who has just returned from Nasser Hospital in Gaza, told us about the starvation, ‘relentless’ injuries, and targeting of health workers she witnessed when working there
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https://x.com/Alonso_GD/status/1951579718282551394
Alonso Gurmendi @Alonso_GD
Bartov, Grossman & a growing number of Israeli public intellectuals are saying things like “I refused to believe it but now I can’t deny it further: Israel is committing genocide”. As they open the Overton Window in ways genocided Palestinians never could, one thing is important
This “I can’t deny it any longer” angle was part of the global structure that enabled a genocide. What for you was a process of personal self discovery, for Palestinians it was months of atrocity denial where tens of thousands of people died, were tortured, starved, etc.
You held the keys to the Overton Window and took 10, 15, even 20 months to say so. This is not guiltless, bloodless or costless. It’s 22 months. People see an IDF shirt and react with fury. It may have taken you 20 months, but it took its victims days to see where this headed
So as Bartov, Grossman etc open the Overton Window and more and more people cross it, I hope we can all agree on this side that it was not you who finally decreed this was a genocide and that there is some kind of merit to this. You were part of the reason the window stayed closed…..

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 3 2025 14:23 utc | 8

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 3 2025 14:23 utc | 8
They deserve to be thrown out the window the supposedly opened. Hopefully at least 12 stories to the land of Palestine.

Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 3 2025 14:32 utc | 9

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 1st August 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-be0 Covers Gaza and the Middle East

Posted by: The Busker | Aug 3 2025 14:34 utc | 10

Her name is Mariam, 9 years old, from Gaza
https://x.com/MuhammadSmiry/status/1951653517267173409
“She is being starved by Israel.”
‘Now go attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them; Do not spare them; Put to death men and women, children and infants.’ – an old Jewish book –

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 3 2025 14:38 utc | 11

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 3 2025 14:23 utc | 8
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The annoying thing is that these Jews still think what goes on in their tiny minds is more important and carries more weight than what others say/think. Regardless of when they say it.
Some of theoriginal members of our group are Jews.
Fine. But they still think that the fact that they are Jews and protesting the genocide is more important than anyone else. They deserve special attention. And they are constantly making asides about being Jewish. One of them quotes Rabbi Hillel.
They don’t seem to get that this disaster is part and parcel of their whole religion, their whole outlook, their sense of superiority and of being teachers to the Gentiles, their conviction that Jews have greater insights into the human condition than others.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 3 2025 15:30 utc | 12

.. so many red flags that Israel not only let Oct 7th happen on purpose,
t hey MADE it happen on purpose.
Posted by: Otto Penn | Aug 3 2025 13:26 utc | 3
Let’s recall that Netanyahu supported and funded Hamas.
From the MSM, Times of Israel:
For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces ..
The premier’s policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from…

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
To my surprise, even Wiki has an entry on, Israeli support for Hamas. (Idk about all that is reported there.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas

Posted by: Noirette | Aug 3 2025 15:43 utc | 13

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 3 2025 14:15 utc | 7
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I saw pics, impressive.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 15:44 utc | 14

🚨🇮🇷⚡The Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces, Major General Abdolrahim Mousavi:
“My greatest wish, and my ideal, is the annihilation and destruction of the Zionist regime. This is something i constantly think about.”

video clip
https://x.com/MonitorX99800/status/1952029225932009571

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 15:52 utc | 15

https://x.com/rcbregman/status/1922815404381974972
Rutger Bregman @rcbregman
Incredibly powerful investigation in Dutch newspaper NRC: Seven of the world’s leading genocide scholars — including renowned Holocaust experts — describe Israel’s actions in Gaza as genocidal.
And according to them, nearly all of their peers agree…..
These scholars emphasize: genocide is a process, it’s not a binary switch. And it’s not about matching the Holocaust.
It’s about deliberate policies — like forced starvation, displacement, and mass killing — that aim to destroy a group, in whole or in part…..
https://x.com/rcbregman/status/1922815417547903161
The accusation of antisemitism has had a chilling effect on free speech about Israel’s conduct.
Harvard dismissed two directors of its Middle East center. Raz Segal’s appointment as head of the Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies at the University of Minnesota was revoked…..
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/top-genocide-scholars-unanimous-israel-committing-genocide-gaza-investigation-finds
Top genocide scholars unanimous that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza: Dutch investigation
Researchers from Israel, the Netherlands, the US, the UK, Australia, Croatia and Canada say Israel’s conduct meets the legal threshold of genocide
A growing number of the world’s leading genocide scholars believe that Israel’s actions in Gaza constitute genocide, according to an investigation by Dutch newspaper NRC.
The paper interviewed seven renowned genocide and Holocaust researchers* from six countries – including Israel – all of whom described the Israeli campaign in Gaza as genocidal. Many said their peers in the field share this assessment.
“Can I name someone whose work I respect who does not think it is genocide? No, there is no counterargument that takes into account all the evidence,” Israeli researcher Raz Segal told NRC……
…..In December 2024, Amnesty International became the first major organisation to conclude that Israel had committed genocide during its war on Gaza, while Human Rights Watch more conservatively concluded that “genocidal acts” had been committed.
Francesca Albanese, the UN’s top expert on Palestine, authored two reports last year suggesting that genocide was taking place in Gaza…….
….Israel’s inaction following the January 2024 interim ruling by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) was a decisive factor in leading many scholars to conclude that its conduct in Gaza amounts to genocide, NRC reported.
The legally binding ruling ordered Israel to take immediate steps to prevent genocide by allowing aid into Gaza and stopping dehumanising rhetoric that incited the extermination of Palestinians…..
….Meanwhile, Melanie O’Brien, president of the International Association of Genocide Scholars, told NRC that Israel’s deliberate denial of food, water, shelter and sanitation was the key factor in her determination that the military campaign was a genocide…..

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 3 2025 15:57 utc | 16

Mahmood OD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydCTmq7oHd4
“Hamas denies disarmament claims.”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 3 2025 16:38 utc | 17

How Google is sone of Israel’s most powerful weapons against criticism of the genocide.
“Israel could not be doing what it is doing without significant support from the West. And they have found some very powerful allies in Silicon Valley. Chief among these is Google, which has allowed the Israeli government to use its platforms to target tens of millions of Europeans with propaganda.”
https://www.mintpressnews.com/alan-macleod-israel-google-genocide/290317/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 3 2025 16:54 utc | 18

Canada still arming Israel – even though Mark carney say Canada will recognise a Palestinian state – which is a lie.
https://thegrayzone.com/2025/08/01/canada-arming-israel-despite-ban/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 3 2025 16:59 utc | 19

How Israeli spyware is watching you and your government knows it – infact I’d go as far to say even backs it.
“Spy tech developed by former Israeli spies is being used on an industrial scale by various agencies in western democracies, from police forces to national security agencies to militaries. Some has been declared illegal, some skirts legal boundaries, and much remains hidden.
The scale of usage, and the range of capabilities provided by this Israeli spy tech, is vast. From face and voice recognition software, to interception and wiretap technology, to covert location tracking, to forced data extraction from smartphones and other devices.
The tech, built by software engineers who cut their teeth writing code to enable and enforce Israeli domination over, and apartheid against Palestinians, is being sold to security services, police forces and immigration agencies across the West.
While much of the information in this article isn’t new, it hasn’t been summarized in one place before. The implications for global civil liberties of Israel’s dominance in spy tech have also not been articulated, and past media coverage has sometimes omitted the Israeli link to these companies. This article will outline the primary players, the sellers and the buyers, and also identify recent contracts, previously undocumented, between Israeli spytech and Western buyers.”
https://thegrayzone.com/2025/07/31/israeli-spyware-surveillance-state/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 3 2025 17:02 utc | 20

Repeating the set of local Palestine links….
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/NewsPs0?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/october7_23?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
Martyred:
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/hossamsshbat?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
Reporting from Rafah
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/madinat_khanyuns?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
@17 RoS …if there was another translate page that worked straight off and was considered private or ethical I would use that. For now google translate and sites linked I don’t consider a flag, because anyone might read those for wider information. Added to that, it is own diligence to understand where personal data leaks, at a wider level. Not easy but there are also various obvious measures. Will post something Sohaib posted recently and related, but the translate is choppy. I would ask that discussion on alternative goes to open thread though if possible.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 3 2025 17:17 utc | 21

The Brits love their Zio-Monsters.
“Zionist war criminals are being secretly hosted in Britain, with thousands arriving over the past several years, according to documents in the possession of Press TV.
They are hosted by Zionist families in the UK, taken on tours to popular tourist sites, and welcomed into private homes — as reported on the now-deleted website of the “charity” involved that goes by the name ‘British Friends of Israel War Disabled’ (BFIWD):
We did all the usual things, had an orientation tour of London, went to the theatre, visited Waddesdon Manor, went shopping, had a tour of the Houses of Parliament, visited the RAF museum and went bowling.
Our host families fed and made our guests a part of their families and we all danced the night away at the final thank you and farewell party. No one who met our guests was not moved by their experiences and the atmosphere at the final party was electric. Each and every one of them touched our hearts.
Fawning over genocidaires suggests that the risks to the UK extend beyond the visitors themselves to those who host them. There is something particularly disturbing about Zionists in the UK providing what is, in effect, material support for ongoing genocide in the Gaza Strip.
Here is a further description from their website:
We show them tourist sites, take them on river trips, go on tours around the Houses of Parliament, arrange theatre visits, take them bowling, to football matches and even to a golf practice range. We welcome them into our homes, into our families and into our lives and do whatever we can to show them how much they are valued, appreciated and loved by us in England.
New lifelong friendships develop during these visits. The English hosts now have extended family members to visit in Israel and our Israeli guests have a special relationship with us here in England.
During their visit, our Israeli guests do not need to spend any money – everything is provided for them. We pay airfares, hotel accommodation, travel and transport in England and entrance fees and of course food. BFIWD pays for their entire trip.
Threat to British citizens?
The threat of mentally unbalanced, disabled, or mentally ill genocidal Zionists being hosted in the UK is significant. It’s not just the war criminals themselves but also “their carers and doctors.”
Given the deeply disturbing nature of Israeli settler society, it would not be surprising to learn that some — or even all — of these companions are themselves either war criminals or, at the very least, active supporters of the ongoing genocide in Gaza.
A 2022 report by the BFIWD stated that the “primary intention of the Trustees continues to be bringing groups of disabled veteran soldiers to the UK to stay with caring families each year.”
It noted that the so-called “charity” has “welcomed around 5,000 men and women for therapeutic and mental healing,” adding that since its founding in 1974, it has “distributed over £3 million… directly to benefit… disabled veterans and survivors of acts of terror.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 3 2025 17:53 utc | 22

Journalist Sohaib Masalmeh
“The countries of the “non-Islamic” world demonstrate by the hundreds of thousands in support of Palestine daily and especially today, while the Arab countries are silent and not a single demonstration comes out except for [by the mercy of God].
The Arab countries compete in festivals and championships for food while the people of Gaza starve and die of hunger, and Arab countries, accounts and influencers compete in food tours, food advertisements and the biggest plate of food.
You will ask, where are the people of the West Bank, Jerusalem and the interior in this? And I will answer you that we are all under occupation and it is killing us and besieging us in ways it innovates with even when it speaks the truth.
Everyone has become a target for accusation and imprisonment in the event that they speak the truth or go out in demonstrations, and no one sees how the West Bank is being stolen and its land plundered openly and how the villages are besieged with gates and people arrive at hospitals after long suffering at the checkpoints and so on.
There is a lot of talk about what is happening, but neither the [Arab country] people nor the media pay attention to it. It would seem that people [outside of Gaza] and with exceptions, are living in luxury, but they did not fail to support their brothers with money and whatever they own in light of the Arab silence and terrible betrayal.
We do not know what to say, but we have begun to see the truth and everything has been exposed , with Arab being replaced by non-Arab.
Forgive us, everyone is negligent, but do not blame those who are under occupation, which is using various methods to intimidate us. It is not a condition that we be under daily bombing and death, but rather the other methods that they use to intimidate us, and that they have multiplied on us as if it was food.”
This is not just media silence, but various forms of intimidation and coercion that are being applied.
The difference would be that in occupied territories knowledge and discussion exists, but in the Arab countries the silencing of the populations, and their apparent turn towards a direction that is not sympathetic to those under onslaught, or that ignores the reality, has been more effective.
All I can add is that populations in Arab countries are very aware of what is permited and what is not, at public level, in any given country. They are also more easily led into a ‘more positive’ perspective, given that what is occuring is not being applied (in the same manner at least) to them (for now, or while they are quiet).
Any activity that supports Palestine in the region will be picked up. Most people know that. If they transfer money for example, they assume they will be listed as sympathisers of some kind.
I don’t say this to excuse, and it is only a very broad view also. It is just to highlight the kind of effect surveillance tech and data aggregation has on people, how it is used on a population.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 3 2025 17:54 utc | 23

“This man is from the town of Abasan in Khan Yunis, south of the Gaza Strip. He is the muezzin of the Al-Sahaba Mosque. He comes from a noble family, but the war doesn’t know that. The war has starved everyone, and nothing remains of people’s bodies except skin and bones. This is what many people in Gaza look like now!”
https://t.me/youseffares19/84882

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 3 2025 18:04 utc | 24

Ziob*t| Aug 3 2025 18:04 utc | 24

in light of the Arab silence and terrible betrayal.

The contents of your asshole, Ziobot.

Posted by: Laurence | Aug 3 2025 18:33 utc | 25

Re: Google supporting Genocide
The day after, will see many such conpanies being taken over by Palestinian Trusts, the profits will be used to pay for damages caused….
Joint Criminal Enterprise

Posted by: Exile | Aug 3 2025 18:42 utc | 26

From the MSM, Times of Israel:
For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces ..

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
@Posted by: Noirette | Aug 3 2025 15:43 utc | 13
More bs from Israeli mockingbirds.
Wish that I could find the link to the exact quote from an Israeli general.
Year(s) before September 11+11, 2023, when Netanyahu publicly wiped Palestine from the map,
an Israeli general spoke favorably about Netanyahu’s policy, that it keeps Israel on a war footing with Gaza.
“Now it’s blown up in our faces” is the wrong phrase, a misleading phrase,
Israel MADE it happen on purpose.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Aug 3 2025 19:25 utc | 27

From the MSM, Times of Israel:
For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces ..

@Posted by: Noirette | Aug 3 2025 15:43 utc | 13
More bs from Israeli mockingbirds.
Wish that I could find the link to the exact quote from an Israeli general.
Year(s) before September 11+11, 2023, when Netanyahu publicly wiped Palestine from the map,
an Israeli general said favorably about Netanyahu’s policy that it keeps Israel on a war footing with Gaza.
“Now it’s blown up in our faces” is the wrong phrase, a misleading phrase,
Israel MADE it happen on purpose.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Aug 3 2025 19:27 utc | 28

🚨BREAKING: Nearly every former head of Israel’s security services—Shin Bet, Mossad, the IDF, and police—has signed a joint public call:
“End the futile war. Bring all the captives home—at once.”
Signatories include:
▪️ Ehud Barak – Prime Minister, IDF Chief of Staff
▪️ Moshe “Bogie” Yaalon – Defense Minister, IDF Chief of Staff
▪️ Dan Halutz – IDF Chief of Staff
▪️ Tamir Pardo – Mossad Director
▪️ Dani Yatom – Mossad Director
▪️ Efraim Halevy – Mossad Director
▪️ Amos Yadlin – Military Intelligence Chief
▪️ Amos Malka – Military Intelligence Chief
▪️ Aharon Ze’evi-Farkash – Military Intelligence Chief
▪️ Uri Sagi – Military Intelligence Chief
▪️ Nadav Argaman – Shin Bet Director
▪️ Yoram Cohen – Shin Bet Director
▪️ Ami Ayalon – Shin Bet Director
▪️ Yaakov Peri – Shin Bet Director
▪️ Carmi Gillon – Shin Bet Director
▪️ Moshe Karadi – Israel Police Commissioner
▪️ Dudi Cohen – Israel Police Commissioner
▪️ Asaf Hefetz – Israel Police Commissioner
▪️ Rafi Peled – Israel Police Commissioner

https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1952093878930264224
Seems obvious to me that they are setting up Bibi to be the fall guy. To take all the blame for the crimes of Zionism and America.
Get Bibi out, don’t recognize Palestine, and continue the slow-motion genocide for another decade.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 20:00 utc | 29

Nearly every former head of Israel’s security services—Shin Bet, Mossad, the IDF, and police—has signed a joint public call:
“End the futile war. Bring all the captives home—at once.”

@Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 20:00 utc | 28
On the face of this announcement it is a good thing.
But the cynic in me is cautious.
Headlines today said, “Israel’s Ben-Gvir says he prayed at Al-Aqsa mosque compound”.
Such a move would be expected to create a backlash from Muslims.
A backlash would be greeted with the argument from Israel:
“We offered to end the conflict and what do they do?
They riot.
It is impossible to work with these animals!”

Posted by: Otto Penn | Aug 3 2025 20:24 utc | 30

Noirette, my bad.
I should have made it clear that my comment @27was not a criticism of you.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Aug 3 2025 20:25 utc | 31

More surreal:
Pal74press
“The United Nations will hold an emergency session next Tuesday to discuss the deteriorating health situation of Israeli prisoners in the Gaza Strip.”
Journalist Youssef Fares
“Republican sources tell NPR:
President Trump was in tears after the recent video released by Hamas about captive Abitar David. He was furious with Hamas and sent a message to Israel to begin implementing the hostage deal immediately and then retaliate.”
I have not found how many food trucks entered today, so will guess at under a hundred (if any) to south .
“92 martyrs by Israeli army fire since dawn today, including 56 aid seekers.” Youssef Fares
There are horrific pictures online at some sources.
Impasse at negotiations.
The impression for now is of extending the starvation. Increasingly a larger military attempt is being notioned, and so I will estimate food delivery will not increase for the coming week or two. The idea I expect is to segregate the remaining population eventually into camps for ‘handling’ , and where food would be made available.
To note, “Israel” will be in fear of census being taken of surviving population, because that would provide the true casualty figure. It might therefore try to keep management private without outside supervision.
I am not sure if the idea is really to turn Gaza over to US/Arab/UN or if it is planing to try to keep hold of Gaza also.
The US/Arab/UN plan has so many falsehoods and pitfalls it is hard to picture it as sincere in any way.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 3 2025 20:34 utc | 32

🇮🇱🇬🇷⚡Mayor of Athens, Greece: “Israel is committing genocide against the people in Gaza, and its ambassador disgusts me.”

https://x.com/MonitorX99800/status/1952108834450981200
More!

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 21:04 utc | 33

Nearly every former head of Israel’s security services—Shin Bet, Mossad, the IDF, and police—has signed a joint public call:
“End the futile war. Bring all the captives home—at once.”
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These creeps are not credible.
The hostages could be brought home immediately in return for ceasefire and unrestricted food aid to Gaza, overseen by UN agency.
I bet Hamas would love to get rid of the hostages, if it could do so within a sensible framework.
But the Zionists don’t really want the hostages home.
They want to continue to use them as pawns.
When the hostages end up dead, they will still be used as pawns.
Zionism is a death cult.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 3 2025 21:05 utc | 34

There are 20,000 trucks waiting for permission to enter Gaza.

The Government Media Office in Gaza said that there are “more than 22,000 humanitarian aid trucks currently parked at the Gaza Strip crossing gates,” blocked by Israel.
“The Israeli occupation is deliberately preventing their entry as part of a systematic policy of engineering starvation, siege, and chaos,” the office said in a statement, adding that most of the trucks belong to the UN and international organisations and various entities.
Describing the situation as a “full-fledged war crime”, the media office said blocking the humanitarian aid violates international law and contributes to what it called the ongoing crime of genocide against the people of Gaza..
“We hold the Israeli occupation, along with the states involved through silence or complicity, fully responsible for the worsening humanitarian catastrophe,” the statement added.
“>https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/more-22000-aid-trucks-blocked-israel-says-gaza-media-office?nid=425676&topic=Israel%2527s%2520war%2520on%2520Gaza&fid=546905

Posted by: teri | Aug 3 2025 21:15 utc | 35

Jane # 33. Just grandstanding as usual whining and beating their breasts while calculating who to screw next. We’ve all read the proclamations … all of West Bank belongs to us. Gaza is ours. Disgusting lying murdering rabid dogs. And, of course, there is no starvation. Witkoff said so right?
Meanwhile, the phrase that sticks in my mind from the Tucker Carlson interview and Democracy Now is: “we don’t carry bottled water. It’s too heavy. THERE’S NO PROFIT IN IT.” Sickening.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Aug 3 2025 21:21 utc | 36

I’m sure everyone’s heard of the Tea app spillover in the media recently:
Hackers leak 13,000 user photos and IDs from the Tea app, designed as a women’s safe space
Something tells me this another one of those Mossad information scooping operations …
If not, I’d bet it’s about to be. Some generous Jewish investor will probably swoop in to buy the “troubled” startup and “rescue” it’s customer base …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 3 2025 21:37 utc | 37

@21
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Yandex has a site translation function:
https://translate.yandex.com/translate
Cannot vouch for accuracy.

Posted by: FollowsTheWay | Aug 3 2025 21:40 utc | 38

see the 1:03 video at the first link
see the 28-second video at the third link
see the 1:28 video at the fourth link
https://x.com/Partisan_12/status/1951963003676397755
The Resonance @Partisan_12
Over 300,000 people crossed Sydney Harbour Bridge today in solidarity with Gaza.
https://x.com/Apolitical3678/status/1951693926261457222
Apolitical @Apolitical3678
There is actually no money behind being anti-Israel.
But lots of popular sentiment.
There are massive piles of money behind the pro-Israel movement.
But no popular sentiment
https://x.com/FearlessWolfess/status/1951873549100016123
Shani @FearlessWolfess
Thousands of pro-Palestine supporters are marching over the Sydney Harbour Bridge. WikiLeaks founder #JulianAssange, Premier Bob Carr and Labor MPs who defied calls from Premier Chris Minns not to march can be seen at the front of the crowd. 🇵🇸
#SydneyCBD #HarbourBridgeprostest #FreePalestine #GazaGenocide #Sydney #NSWprotest #7NEWS
https://x.com/FearlessWolfess/status/1951897696815759551
Shani @FearlessWolfess
Thousands of pro-Palestine supporters marched across the Sydney Harbour Bridge condemning the worsening humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
Politicians, union groups and humanitarian advocates participated 🇵🇸
#SydneyCBD #HarbourBridgeprostest #proPalestine #PalestinianActionGroupSydney #FreePalestine @7NewsSydney

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 3 2025 21:55 utc | 39

Not sure ICRC has anymore clout than anyone else in dealing with USReal (perhaps since it’s Pope orchestrated, if that even matters)) but Hamas made offer:
3 AUG, 14:24
TASS
https://tass.com/world/1997565
“Hamas ready to cooperate with ICRC on humanitarian aid to hostages.”
Highlights:
“Al-Qassam Brigades are ready to ready to positively engage and respond to any request by the Red Cross to *bring food and medicine to the hostages,”**according to a statement by the spokesman for the Hama’s armed wing, Abu Ubaida, which was posted on the Hamas Telegram channel.
“The Al-Qassam Brigades do not deliberately starve the prisoners, but they eat what our mujahideen (fighters) and the general public eat, and they will not receive any special privilege amid the crime of starvation and siege,” he emphasized, adding that Hamas**** insists “on the opening of humanitarian corridors in a normal and permanent manner for the passage of food and medicine to all our people in all areas of the Gaza Strip, and the cessation of all forms of enemy aerial activity during the times of parcel deliveries to the prisoners.”***
“The spokesman for the Hama’s armed wing, Abu Ubaida, added that Hamas insists “on the opening of humanitarian corridors in a normal and permanent manner for the passage of food and medicine to all our people”
Doubt it will come to anything, but guessing “hostage” starvation video, and subsequent protests may do something maybe.
As horrifying as this genocide is, as least cracks in the walls and falling debris are starting to appear on the USReal side.
Obviously Hamas reached a “do or die” decision with this latest of telling USReal to take a hike.
No more negotiations, even as political plots, are on the periphery atm.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 3 2025 22:23 utc | 40

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 3 2025 21:37 utc | 36
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All social media is Zionist data farming. Much of it for AI training, IMO.
Even the alternative networks like Rumble and such.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 22:33 utc | 41

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 3 2025 21:55 utc | 38
ad others, re Assange at Sydney demo
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It makes me so happy to see Assange up and about and able to join in this protest.
He survived what they threw at him.
It’s a biggie.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 3 2025 22:33 utc | 42

@21
Use simple translate plugin. Available for most browsers.
https://yandex.com/search/?text=simple+translate&clid=1836588&lr=20765&msp=1

Posted by: Thurl | Aug 3 2025 22:48 utc | 43

Otto Penn et al. Here is a soldier ordered to stand down the morning of Oct 7th.
Jimmy Dore
https://youtu.be/IhEN14luMHI?si=zbNMMBgbk7wxE3kh
Damning evidence. Otto now has all he needs to take his case to court. I’m convinced he would win the case.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Aug 3 2025 23:03 utc | 44

Thanks @37 FollowsTheWay and @42 Thurl
I replied and continued that in comment @76 Ornot in open thread:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/08/the-moa-week-in-review-ot-2025-173.html#comments

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 3 2025 23:25 utc | 45

The problem with metadata stored by Israeli Companies is that Israelis are addicted to racism for racism’s sake. I caught my Pakistani next door neighbour reporting me to the police today out of his obsessive racism for the English. I have done nothing to upset him except to exist.
The British police can see through those lies as racism, because the see it every day, but Israeli collectors of metadata can manipulate the data to cause mischief. Pakistani businessmen love the Israeli spying software , perhaps because it is Haram , perhaps because it is extremely invasive.
We can see how Israel has manipulated its own population into hating Palestinians through the lie that Hamas killed 1200 Israelis on Oct 7, which were actually murdered by the IDF.
There are lies, dawned lies and statistics. The genociders constantly manipulate the statistics.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 3 2025 23:28 utc | 46

Large crowds March for Gaza in Sydney and Melbourne.
Sydney event closed the Harbour Bridge, which is always a Big Deal as it impacts traffic.
Sydney weather was foul, – cold, torrential rain.
But still the crowds were large.
Brave and Bravo.
BTW, Julian Assange was seen in the crowd in Sydney. So that’s another Good Thing
Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 3 2025 14:15 utc | 7
Bravo from me as well!!

Posted by: juliania | Aug 3 2025 23:29 utc | 47

Damned, not dawned . Autocorrect.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 3 2025 23:29 utc | 48

@45 Giyane
UK is freaky though. If you look at what ‘evidence’ they use to issue search warrants or press charges, how every detail that can be used is, IF they decide they are not happy with someone.
When a person is questioned, there is a heavy psychology at play. The interviewer might provide an assumed private detail and ask for an explanation, and that alone is enough to throw someone off guard, to make them feel guilty. We are after all not talking trained saboteurs who know the score of interrogation as well as their rights, but just ‘ordinary people’ mostly.
The data aggregation though is fed into models that judge public mood, that calculate direction of propaganda needed, of what counters opinion or sets trends, for one example. This is not trivial.
If it were weaponised, were used to calculate specific targets, well we have examples of that in Palestine, Lebanon and Syria also.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 3 2025 23:58 utc | 49

Journalist Ayman Hanideq
“A message from Ghazzawi:
We are speaking to you while our hearts and the earth are cramped!
By God, by God, we cannot find anything to eat… The “lentils” have held out with us with loyalty you do not see in humans, yet the lentils are gone.. and the options have disappeared.”
Purposeful Starvation:
Hundreds of thousands without food , forced to shelter in makeshift camps, killed if they try to leave.
Without the energy to do anything.
Without anything that is worth doing.
The world watches, as they are slowly strangled over the space of days, weeks, months, years.
What world is this.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 4 2025 0:49 utc | 50

Sydney Sunday for Gaza
So it’s estimated 90,000 did the Harbour Bridge walk for Gaza, and about 300k were in the city and staging area. Not sure of Melbourne numbers.
It’s the iconic harbour bridge that grabs the imagery and poignancy.
Weather wise, it was cold and been raining hard for days. Everyone expected the crowd to be small because Sydneysiders don’t like cold and rain. People still turned up. The crowd size shocked the mockingbirds, the organisers and the police… who are crying about the crowd control risk.
Absolutely *nothing* happened … there was zero violence, zero arrests, zero issues for police to be crying about.
Jewish associations in Australia are furiously tweeting, and appearing on sky news and across all mockingbird outlets screeching and slamming the event.
There’s no mockingbird report I want to inflict on anyone here, so no links
Maybe just search engine Sydney Harbour Bridge Gaza (or Palestine).
There’s lots of fantastic images, including some of Julian Assange.
Of course global media mockingbirds are silent on what happened in Sydney and Melbourne this Sunday.
There’s less than 200,000 Jewish people in Australia. It’s salutary to contemplate…. No other group of this small size can wield power and influence to match the Jewish lobby…

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 4 2025 1:25 utc | 51

Barry Malone
@malonebarry
Jesus.
The enemy is not hunger. The enemy is Israel.
Square profile picture
TIME
@TIME
·
Aug 1
“When children are starving, the enemy is hunger.”
TIME’s new cover goes inside the crisis unfolding in Gaza—and what needs to happen next https://ti.me/3ITGdl3
See Time Magazine Cover…
https://x.com/malonebarry/status/1951709082618105912

Posted by: Menz | Aug 4 2025 1:29 utc | 52

Prem Thakker
@prem_thakker
Israel’s Ambassador to Greece accused Athens of not addressing antisemitic graffiti.
Mayor’s reply:
“We do not accept lessons in democracy from those who kill civilians…the Ambassador focuses solely on graffiti…at a time when an unprecedented genocide is taking place in Gaza.”
https://x.com/prem_thakker/status/1952072218638200995

Posted by: Menz | Aug 4 2025 1:30 utc | 53

Zeteo
@zeteo_news
The Israeli government has told so many lies since Oct. 7.
In this video — and in under three minutes — @mehdirhasan debunks the top 10 Israeli lies about the genocide in Gaza.
ViDEO (2:52)
https://x.com/zeteo_news/status/1951992740360642613

Posted by: Menz | Aug 4 2025 1:32 utc | 54