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August 7, 2025
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2025-176
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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Richard Wolff & Michael Hudson Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 7 2025 15:27 utc | 1 J’expliquais il y a deux ans que l’oligarchie occidentale ne pouvait envisager sereinement de tenir face à la Chine sans avoir résolu au moins l’un des deux conflits suivants : celui contre la Fédération de Russie qui avait solidifié ses liens avec la Chine et activé une opposition mondiale à l’oligarchie occidentale, et celui contre sa propre population majoritaire via la guerre contre ses murs porteurs (culture, mœurs, histoire) et sa démographie. Il est probable que cet objectif n’ait pas été perdu de vue et reste, malgré les pressions du deep state réfugié dans l’UE, la clé de lecture à focale variable de la politique extérieure de Donald Trump : coopération et pacification boréale et conservatisme reconstructeur. Posted by: Laurent Ozon | Aug 7 2025 15:37 utc | 2 @John Gilberts (1): I expect the EUR/USD to DOWN and I wouldn’t be surprised to see the EUR/USD go down A LOT. e.g. 50% down or e.g. down to say 0.60 or 0.50. Posted by: WMG | Aug 7 2025 16:11 utc | 3 Alastair Crooke told in one of his interviews with “Judge” Napolitano that Iran in the 12 day war also attacked a communication hub on an US military base in Qatar. Some links about those iranian attacks. (I repost the links I posted before). Posted by: WMG | Aug 7 2025 16:14 utc | 4 Trump demands INTEL CEO stands down. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2025 16:22 utc | 5 The Moldovan Western puppet Sandu, stamping out democracy in Moldova – Kallas and von der Leyen, will be proud of her. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2025 16:24 utc | 6 The EU has a history of folding when the US pushes against it. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2025 16:28 utc | 7 As expected India’s Modi will meet with Xi, and possibly Putin over Trump’s sanctions against India for not playing ball on Russian oil. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2025 16:46 utc | 8 Laurent Ozon | Aug 7 2025 15:37 utc | 2
Co è pac, d’accord – fort possible mais ‘conservatisme reconstructeur’ je doute fort ! C’est du vol, tout simple, le vampirisme des bien de la population ! The rape of the commons, comme disent le rosbifs ! Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Aug 7 2025 17:03 utc | 9 Putin should be nuts to listen to the lying West. But the US national interest is not in these worthless wars. The globalist traitors in the US who continue to prop up the criminal EU regime should be arrested, tried, and convicted of treason. ESG is a RICO violation and those bastards must go down. Posted by: kassandra | Aug 7 2025 17:18 utc | 10 The US Empire trying everything to stem its global collapse in power, with so many of its actions backfiring as they have done for at least a decade. Brazil, India and Azerbaijan In Play: As The US Sees It Anyway Posted by: Roger Boyd | Aug 7 2025 17:53 utc | 11 Ushakov’s strategic cooperation argument is a good one. China is the only real global competitor if we exclude the EU. And, well, Russia is well positioned to profit off helping the US contain both. Nothing major, but say reentering the EU energy market on price points that allow the US to compete, or limiting the amount of aid it might provide China (in the case of a Taiwan issue) to level similar to Chinese restraint towards Russia during the Ukraine conflict. Posted by: Moderation in things | Aug 7 2025 18:16 utc | 12 If I were one of Trump’s advisors, I would tell him to stop lobbying for the Nobel Peace Prize, which isn’t going to happen and requires too many concessions on his part. Besides, four US Presidents have already won the Peace Prize, and the PEACE PRIZE is a LAUGHING STOCK and TOTALLY DISCREDITED! Posted by: Incoherent Thoughts | Aug 7 2025 19:28 utc | 13 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2025 16:22 utc | 5 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 7 2025 19:56 utc | 15 Anyone who believes a word out the mouths of b&stards like her needs their head examined. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2025 20:02 utc | 16 Radika Desai has teamed with Global Times to produce this 5-minute infomercial: “Internal contradictions could determine the fate of dollar system,” which is well worth the small amount of time spent. AI chat bots such as Chat GBT – are a tool that is used against folk who question the official narrative. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2025 20:42 utc | 18 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2025 20:42 utc | 18 Posted by: Laurence | Aug 7 2025 20:56 utc | 19 Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 7 2025 20:10 utc | 17 Posted by: Laurence | Aug 7 2025 21:03 utc | 20 So… what does this do for the “Fedsurrection” angle on January 6? Recall that many, myself included (to a degree anyway), believe that there were fed infiltrators in the crowds who stormed Congress that day. But here we have a current Trump DOJ official on camera urging the rioters to “kill” the police during the event. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 7 2025 21:19 utc | 21 The real reason for the US warmongering with China Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 7 2025 21:26 utc | 22 Trump secures strategic transit corridor in Armenia-Azerbaijan peace deal Posted by: Acanthocephala East | Aug 7 2025 22:11 utc | 23 Gonzalo Lira murder case opened. Posted by: Thurl | Aug 7 2025 22:27 utc | 24 @ Incoherent Thoughts | Aug 7 2025 19:28 utc | 13 Posted by: malenkov | Aug 7 2025 22:32 utc | 25 Radika Desai has teamed with Global Times to produce this 5-minute infomercial: “Internal contradictions could determine the fate of dollar system,” which is well worth the small amount of time spent. Posted by: financial matters | Aug 7 2025 23:26 utc | 26 Trump secures strategic transit corridor in Armenia-Azerbaijan peace deal Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 7 2025 23:58 utc | 27 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 7 2025 19:56 utc | 15 Posted by: Mary | Aug 8 2025 0:28 utc | 28 @John Gilberts (1): I expect the EUR/USD to DOWN and I wouldn’t be surprised to see the EUR/USD go down A LOT. e.g. 50% down or e.g. down to say 0.60 or 0.50. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2025 0:42 utc | 29 Random: Posted by: Dogon priest | Aug 8 2025 1:01 utc | 30 USAss = shithole.
https://sainthoward.blogspot.com/2014/ Posted by: denk | Aug 8 2025 2:14 utc | 31 OUch, the Terror factory opens shop in NZ ! Posted by: denk | Aug 8 2025 2:47 utc | 32
https://x.com/GodfreeTrh/status/1952919520282362289 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2025 3:06 utc | 33
photos Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2025 3:08 utc | 34 Somehow reminds me of Raisi and his trip to Azerbaijan. Posted by: skeptic | Aug 8 2025 3:20 utc | 35 Hedges: ‘Silent Holocaust’- Israel’s Guatemalan Genocide Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 8 2025 3:31 utc | 36 Mao Zedong Posted by: denk | Aug 8 2025 3:36 utc | 37 @ Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 7 2025 21:26 utc | 22 Posted by: james | Aug 8 2025 3:41 utc | 38 ‘Silent Holocaust’ (corrected from #36 above) Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 8 2025 3:42 utc | 39 Pale faced, forked tongue… Posted by: denk | Aug 8 2025 4:53 utc | 40 My daily hubris check is to go the daily Astronomy Picture of the Day APOD
I remind monotheists how out of touch with the realities of our cosmos their myths are and how they limit our species awe of our human ignorance by substituting the lies of monotheism that conflicted enough with the Crab Nebulae supernova to be wiped from their history. Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 8 2025 5:08 utc | 41 All these pedophile networks, genocidal maniacs, millenarists of all brands need to be entirely outcasted, boycotted by normal people. This means not buying anything except grocery at the peasants market actually. Posted by: Tom | Aug 8 2025 5:18 utc | 42 @Incoherent Thoughts | Aug 7 2025 19:28 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 8 2025 5:18 utc | 43 Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 8 2025 5:08 utc | 41 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2025 5:26 utc | 44 @LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2025 5:26 utc | 44 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 8 2025 5:49 utc | 45 Independent media is curated for us. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2025 6:15 utc | 46 “So… what does this do for the “Fedsurrection” angle on January 6? Recall that many, myself included (to a degree anyway), believe that there were fed infiltrators in the crowds who stormed Congress that day. But here we have a current Trump DOJ official on camera urging the rioters to “kill” the police during the event.”
Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 8 2025 8:16 utc | 47 “If Saramago would win the 1988 prize for “for his ability to blend fantasy and reality” and for his unconventional narrative style, which basically removes all punctuation, then Trump should have no problem for his ability to do the same and for being able to USE THE CAPS LOCK KEY ON EVERY SINGLE POST!”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Saramago Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 8 2025 8:41 utc | 48 Crazy to me that Russia started this entire war to improve its geopolitical standing in the world and it had the opposite effect. Posted by: Fit Rice | Aug 8 2025 10:44 utc | 49 The story about contaminated crude oil from Azerbaijan continues to rumble on:
https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2025/08/08/70-millionov-gryaznaya-neft-iz-azerbaydzhana-bluzhdaet-v-atlantike-tretyu-nedelyu (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2025 10:54 utc | 50 Even if Trump has cut ties with Epstein as soon as he realized the guy was pedo, he certainly placed some money offshore thx to his advice. And the whole Melania issue that no one is talking about. Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 8 2025 11:40 utc | 51 Crazy to me that Russia started this entire war to improve its geopolitical standing in the world and it had the opposite effect. Posted by: CeaClearly | Aug 8 2025 12:11 utc | 52 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 7 2025 20:42 utc | 18
While I use neither, there is the chinese alternative to chatgpt, DeepSeek. Just like there are alternative search engines, sometimes coming up with surprisingly different results. Posted by: Hamburger | Aug 8 2025 12:16 utc | 53 I quote from Peter Gerard Myers concerning leftism Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 8 2025 12:34 utc | 54 With superpowers being unveiled as paper tigers it looks like human civilization is circling back to age of conquest Posted by: Lintson | Aug 8 2025 12:52 utc | 55 An American president won the nobel price for literature? Who? Posted by: Noirette | Aug 8 2025 13:08 utc | 56 “Crazy to me that Russia started this entire war to improve its geopolitical standing in the world and it had the opposite effect. Posted by: canuk | Aug 8 2025 13:12 utc | 57 Sandu – Kallas, von der Leyen, and a whole host of Western leaders won’t like this one bit. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 8 2025 13:44 utc | 58 Trumps keeps the tariffs coming. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 8 2025 13:46 utc | 59 The Algerians getting tough with their former colonisers. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 8 2025 13:48 utc | 60 Looks like the Yanks will gain access to the Caucasus corridor – and cause untold trouble with it. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 8 2025 13:51 utc | 61 Starmer – et al are just covering their backs, by pushing the recognition, they know that they could stand trial some day for aiding and abetting in genocide. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 8 2025 13:59 utc | 62 “Cash on the barrel head is all that Russia would be prone to accept. The Blob is not agreement capable, and Russia knows it. So it’s pay to play, exclusively. The words on parchment have to be there, but the Blob doesn’t care about them. Russia wants security and money, not words. Their military is providing security, so Trump has to give them money. We’ll see if he is allowed to do so.” Posted by: English Outsider | Aug 8 2025 14:01 utc | 63 Send the all back I say public services in Britain are on the brink of collapse as it is without Christ knows how many Ukrainians putting more pressure on them – in Scotland there’s at least 28,000 of them and I can only speculate how much more than the £67 million quid the Scottish Colonial Administration (SNP) sent to Ukraine, whilst services in Scotland go into freefall. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 8 2025 14:07 utc | 64 The only superpower that was unveiled as a paper tiger is Russia. We’re not circling back to an age of conquest we have two pressing situations to handle. The rest is business as usual. Posted by: Argnir | Aug 8 2025 14:26 utc | 65 Posted by: Fit Rice | Aug 8 2025 10:44 utc | 49 Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 8 2025 14:45 utc | 66 The Russian economy will never collectively overtake the EU economy. Expecting that is pure stupidity. Posted by: 3485 | Aug 8 2025 15:01 utc | 67 Cecil Rhodes
FFW 21C
——————– Posted by: denk | Aug 8 2025 15:01 utc | 68 All the above reasons is why Russia does not and will not have a bigger economy than most EU countries despite being the most natural resource rich country in the world. Posted by: canuk | Aug 8 2025 15:28 utc | 69 @WMG #4 Posted by: c1ue | Aug 8 2025 15:35 utc | 70
Posted by: 3485 | Aug 8 2025 15:01 utc | 67 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2025 15:49 utc | 71 @3485 #67 Posted by: c1ue | Aug 8 2025 15:55 utc | 72 Posted by: c1ue | Aug 8 2025 15:55 utc | 72 Posted by: canuk | Aug 8 2025 15:57 utc | 73 Posted by: Mary | Aug 8 2025 0:28 utc | 28 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2025 16:01 utc | 74 A microcosm of Britain as a technological and manufacturing backwater; the main railway route between London (Waterloo station) and the city of Exeter in South Devon has been reduced to running trains with as few as two carriages (normally 6 carriages, sometimes 8 or 9), because so many are laid up with blown engines and there is a severe supply-chain shortage of replacements, as only one company still deals with what is a 35-year old design. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2025 16:03 utc | 75 EU is fucked: energy edition Posted by: c1ue | Aug 8 2025 16:04 utc | 76 I am seeing pundits say that Trump is in crisis mode with managing the Epstein and Gaza situations and so is cranking the Hurdy Gurdy tariff machine faster and faster to include the price discovery and movement of gold.
It looks like the COMEX market is currently trading at about $100/oz higher than Shanghai market. Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 8 2025 16:22 utc | 77 How the US didn’t need to drop the A-Bombs on Hiroshima or Nagasaki, but they did it anyway – to see the results. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 8 2025 16:33 utc | 78 Epstein was an FBI informant. Maybe he is under deep cover, or covered deep……either way, an interesting angle for who is running the political blackmail operation. Seems they have some of Trump’s curlies for DNA evidence……how else to explain his signing off on the genocidal mass murder of women and children in Palestine. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 8 2025 16:40 utc | 79 The White Man’s Burden,” a poem by Rudyard Kipling, was written in 1899 and urged the United States to take up the task of colonizing and governing newly acquired territories, including the Philippines. The poem is interpreted as a justification for imperialism, suggesting that white colonizers had a moral obligation to civilize and uplift “inferior” peoples.
————————————— Posted by: denk | Aug 8 2025 17:05 utc | 80 This is bad news for Iran, Russia, Turkey and China. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 8 2025 17:34 utc | 81 “von der Leyen and the Commission are terrified of a truly free press, which is why the EU spends close to €100 million each year subsidising pro-EU media content and narratives.” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 8 2025 17:38 utc | 82 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 8 2025 17:34 utc | 81 Posted by: denk | Aug 8 2025 17:46 utc | 83 White supremacists Posted by: denk | Aug 8 2025 17:56 utc | 84 How the US didn’t need to drop the A-Bombs on Hiroshima or Nagasaki, but they did it anyway – to see the results. Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 8 2025 18:12 utc | 85 So a direct barometer of Europe’s decline is the extension of the duration in which Germany in particular and the EU in general refuse to trade for cheap energy from its literal neighbor, Russia. Posted by: too scents | Aug 8 2025 18:21 utc | 86 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 8 2025 18:29 utc | 87 Jesus H Christ. Not sure what happened there. Sorry about that. Guess I forgot to close the tag on my HTML link. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 8 2025 18:29 utc | 88 Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 8 2025 18:12 utc | 85 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 8 2025 18:33 utc | 89 @too scents #86 Posted by: c1ue | Aug 8 2025 18:36 utc | 90 Only well brainwashed folks and faux patriotic numbskulls believe that the A-bombs were needed to “end the war.” Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2025 18:42 utc | 91 The truth about Muslim oppression in China!!! Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2025 18:56 utc | 92 Why can Trump do all that without seeing the US (and Israhell) being expelled from the UN? Without EU support (and he had to concede to the EU DS and join the Ukr war) he could not. Posted by: Tom | Aug 8 2025 19:30 utc | 93 They dropped the bomb for OTHERS to see the results. Posted by: Laurence | Aug 8 2025 19:55 utc | 94 Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 8 2025 18:12 utc | 85 Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 8 2025 20:16 utc | 95 Posted by: Laurence | Aug 8 2025 19:55 utc | 94 Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 8 2025 20:28 utc | 96 Hurr Durr, China steals everything from America. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2025 20:44 utc | 97 With superpowers being unveiled as paper tigers it looks like human civilization is circling back to age of conquest Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2025 20:52 utc | 98 China is more pro-peace and social welfare than any European nation has ever been, IMO Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2025 21:00 utc | 99 And then Oppenheimer gets to act like some martyr, ala “It pains me so much to punch you.” Posted by: malenkov | Aug 8 2025 21:38 utc | 100 |
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