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August 1, 2025
Hala Jaber – What The World Is Offering Palestinians Isn’t A State

On which I hand the mic to Hala Jaber

Hala Jaber @HalaJaber – 13:41 UTC · Aug 1, 2025

🧵The Two-State Solution is Dead. What the world is offering Palestinians isn’t a state.

The concept of a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine is often presented as a path to peace, but it has become an empty promise, a diplomatic illusion that distracts from the reality of occupation and apartheid. This thread examines why the two-state solution was and is no longer viable, analyzing its historical promises, current realities, and inherent flaws.


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All this talk of a two-state solution is delusion at best, distraction at worst.

Israel’s leadership has made it clear: it has no intention, ZERO, of allowing a sovereign Palestinian state, EVER.

Even Netanyahu has said it: “There is no post-war scenario that would lead to a Palestinian state.”

This collides with the idea of sovereignty.

This stance reveals a fundamental contradiction: a “state” without sovereignty is not a state, it’s a rebranded occupation. Israel’s actions, settlement expansion, annexation policies, & daily violence, genocidal rhetoric, demonstrate that the system is designed to prevent Palestinian statehood, not enable it. It’s not a bug, it’s the system.

The rhetoric of a two-state solution persists as a diplomatic distraction, masking the reality of apartheid while offering Palestinians a hollow promise. So what are you negotiating? A mirage? A hostage with a flag isn’t a state? Stop dressing up apartheid as diplomacy.

Let’s assume, just for argument’s sake, a Palestinian state was declared tomorrow, its functionality would be impossible under current conditions.

The proposed state would consist of two disconnected territories: Gaza in the southwest and the West Bank in the northeast, separated by a heavily militarized Israel. Israel controls all borders, airspace, and movement between these regions, rendering Palestinian autonomy dependent on Israeli permission.

A state without control over its borders, economy, or defense is not sovereign. The Oslo framework demanded a demilitarized Palestine, leaving it defenseless against blockades, settler violence, or military incursions. Even if Palestine were “recognized,” it would be a state in name only with:

  • No army.
  • No control over borders, airspace, or economy.
  • No right to defend itself.
  • No protection from bombs, blockades, or settler militias.

This is not statehood, it’s an open-air prison with a flag and better branding.

But more importantly: it never acknowledged the Nakba: the expulsion of 750,000 Palestinians, the theft of 78% of their homeland, the erasure of their right to return.

Even the limited territory promised under Oslo II, Areas A and B, roughly 40% of the West Bank, has been eroded. Area C, comprising 60% of the West Bank, remains under full Israeli control. Over 700,000 Israeli settlers now live in 150 settlements and 128 outposts, most built post-Oslo, fragmenting the West Bank into disconnected enclaves.

Settlement expansion and land theft have made a contiguous Palestinian state impossible. What remains is a patchwork of cantons, surrounded by apartheid infrastructure, that cannot form the basis of a viable state.

Instead, it asks Palestinians to accept symbolic scraps while their homeland is devoured and call it peace, when truth be told, that’s not reconciliation, it’s Western diplomacy laundering colonial dispossession.

This isn’t a “solution.” It’s a settlement of guilt, for everyone but Palestinians. The two‑state model is a corpse: cold, buried, kept artificially warm by leaders who want to say they “tried.” But geography, justice, and reality have pronounced it dead.

Symbolic gestures, like international recognition of a Palestinian state, are meaningless without control over land, resources, or security. The two-state solution has become a diplomatic prop, a way to maintain the appearance of progress while enabling occupation.

Netenyahu’ statements including: “Any future independent Palestinian state would pose a threat to Israel’s existence,” further underscore the futility of negotiations.

Recognition without sovereignty is publicity for occupation, not liberation.

Which brings us to today:

Western leaders are racing to “recognize” a Palestinian state; Starmer, Spain, Norway, framed as a historic gesture. But what are they actually offering? The current status quo: diminished land, no sovereignty, no protection.

Even Netanyahu celebrates this in his statements, including in his July 2025 White House remarks that an independent Palestinian state would “pose a threat to Israel’s existence,”

Recognition without sovereignty is publicity for occupation, not liberation.

Summary:

The two-state solution is dead, if it was ever truly viable. It offers Palestinians neither sovereignty nor justice, serving instead as a distraction from the realities of occupation, displacement, and systemic violence. Clinging to this outdated framework enables the status quo, not liberation.

Palestinians deserve more than a flag over ruins or a seat at a table where their rights are perpetually deferred. True peace requires confronting the root causes of injustice, the Nakba, land theft, and apartheid, and dismantling the systems that perpetuate them. Anything less is not a solution; it’s a delusion dressed as diplomacy.

Recognition without justice isn’t peacekeeping. It’s betrayal, gift-wrapped, so let’s stop pretending this is statehood, it’s not.

It’s PR over policy & fiction over freedom.

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Hamas Beit Hanun Battalion surrenders to IDF troops in north Gaza
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-863009
Hamas terrorists emerge from tunnel shaft, surrender to IDF forces
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/skpfndspxx

Posted by: Menz | Aug 2 2025 13:48 utc | 201

@ my post @ # 195:
I am not finding any verification of what Sohaib published on Telegram. It’s possible that he simply repeated entire packs of lies from Witkoff and the US and the Palestinian Authority. The part about Abbas (Palestinian Authority) holding elections and not allowing any resistance groups to participate seems to be true. Everything else is in question.
Hamas posted this a few minutes ago:
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In the Name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
Press Release
Commenting on what was published by some media outlets, quoting US envoy Steve Witkoff, that the movement expressed its willingness to disarm, we reaffirm that the resistance and its weapons are a national and legal entitlement as long as the occupation persists. They have been recognized by international conventions and norms, and they cannot be abandoned except by restoring our full national rights, foremost among which is the establishment of an independent, fully sovereign Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital.
Islamic Resistance Movement – Hamas
Saturday: 07 Safar 1447 AH
corresponding to: 02 August 2025 AD
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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Anyone else finding anything?

Posted by: teri | Aug 2 2025 13:50 utc | 202

TOrganic | Aug 1 2025 23:42 utc | 121
***… the two state narrative, one that will never be allowed by either Israel nor its minions. Seems they too need to feel good about themselves.***
Ignore the Israeli pretence of not wanting the “2 State” solution as will perhaps be “imposed”.
It is what they want, but it is expedient to not admit that; it would fully serve their longer-term aims. Residual inconveniences (the native population) can easily be killed or effectively forced into deportation thereafter.
Israel’s new concentration camp, or several such barely-linked camps, will be that alleged State.
Of course, a fake ‘State’ with totally corrupt and Israeli-owned leadership, devoid of any of the powers or rights that make a State real
But also a key factor will be that it will be a ‘State’ separated from any Palestinian ownership of present (albeit already being stolen) Palestinian gas and oil reserves.
All gas, oil, water (as per Golan) and arable land will thereafter “legally” be the exclusive property of the Zionist entity and its corporate chums/fronts.
The alleged “2 State” solution is just a ‘legal’ way of consolidating the Israeli theft of … just about everything.
Only one state is now (and has for a long time been) viable. So is it going to be Palestinian, or Israeli?
That, not details of a corrupt and inherently unviable2-State fantasy, is what politicians and mass-media posers should be questioned about.

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 2 2025 13:53 utc | 203

Why are so many wasting time writing how horrible Israel is and how complicit the West is to what Israel has been doing for so many years? We know! Let us discuss what should be done.
My view is that time is on Palestine’s side due to the falling fertility rate of Israelis. In 100 years even the Israeli Arabs may outnumber the Jews.
The news of Hamas surrendering is very likely fake. So let us not discuss that for the time being.
So in the short term we need peace, so that Palestinians can grow, flourish, and become a strong nationality. There will then be one Palestine from the river to the sea in a hundred years’ time.
So we should negotiate for an autonomous Palestine right now. The most important negotiating point should be to remove those settlements in the West Bank which are preventing contiguity of the Palestinian occupied areas. Most of the settlers may stay for now, but they will no have to go to / through Palestinian occupied territories. Secondly, the solution should be temporary, to be reviewed after say 25 years. Limited sovereignty may be accepted so that Israel and the West “wins” and they accept to give autonomy.
This solution is not a cave-in. It is a tactic to change what has been happening for the last 75 years. If we take a rigid, principled stand, the current situation will continue for another 75 years.
My suggestion is not a comprehensive one. It is just to indicate the direction we should take.

Posted by: gb_grave | Aug 2 2025 13:57 utc | 204

Teri, I don’t see anything on sources outside of Israeli media.

Posted by: Menz | Aug 2 2025 14:00 utc | 205

“So your proposed addition to the list of reasons
why Israel believes it should exist and be a member in good standing at the UN is:
41) I work for the furthering of the anglosaxon imperial project.
or, how would you word it?”
@Otto Penn | Aug 2 2025 12:56 utc | 186
Yes something like that. I find it odd how many here are actually talking about Israel as an independent power.
Like Regina Sharif wrote in her book about non-jewish zionism in 1983 the jewish lobby isnt the only activist here.
The anglosaxons have been zionists for 500 years ever since they began to contemplate having an empire. Thus before there were any jews in England.
Other sources put that time as 1583
And since Thomas Brightman began to push for jewish immigration to Palestine in 1585 this also started before the jews came back after being expelled in 1290.
Around 1588 Sir Francis Drake went on about London being the new Jerusalem.
I think Englands kings began to refer to themselves as kings of Israel earlier in that century as well.
And that happened perhaps two decades after 1508 when Venice was almost crushed and began to transplant itself to northern Europe. So it is conceivable that the initiative both concerning the jews and the start of an empire may have come from Venice. That oligarchy already practised secretly controlling jewish moneylenders while overtly critisising them giving appearance to subscribe to popular views but covertly making profits aided by the moneylenders.
There were signs of that related to Christopher Marlowes the Jew From Malta from 1592 according to Lyndon Larouche’s associates and Larouche later claimed that the Knights of Malta were the controllers of the financiers as late as the 1980s.
Anyway
It is obvious that the anglosaxons wanted to coopt the jews.
And not to be kind to them. But to make sure they had few other options than to remain lojal to England come British Empire.
Everything that followed for centuries fits that picture.
And British academia has been very important in conjuring up suitable cults for imperial purposes over the centuries.
But the common opinion makers have some more homework to do before they wake up to that reality…

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 2 2025 14:09 utc | 206