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August 18, 2025
Europe Demands ‘Security Guarantees’ For Ukraine … Russia Can Give Those

Later today U.S. President Donald Trump will meet the (former) Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski to talk about the results of last week's summit between Trump and Russia's President Vladimir Putin. As a result of that summit both sides declared that the war in Ukraine must be ended with an all-encompassing peace agreement. That again will require for Ukraine to give up on certain territories and to become a neutral country.

Zelenski will try to induce Trump to return to his previous position. Trump had earlier demanded an immediate ceasefire from Russia at the current frontline. But after trying he had found that he had no way to achieving that. Trump had to agree to Russia positions because there was no other way left to end the war in Ukraine.

Trump is notoriously prone to change his position from one talk to another. This time however I believe that he will stick to his agreement with Putin.

Zelenski will be told to file for peace with Russia under whatever condition Russia will demand from him.

After the talk with Zelenski Trump will have a meet and greet with a bunch of European premiers, chancellors and presidents. They want the war to continue which requires to keep the U.S. involved in it.

Their main talking point and request will be a 'security guarantee' for Ukraine which, they say, will require U.S. involvement and backing.

Being asked about it during an interview Trump's Russia envoy Stephen Witkoff gave a polite response:

“The United States is potentially prepared to be able to give Article 5 security guarantees, but not from NATO — directly from the United States and other European countries,” Witkoff said in a “Fox News Sunday” interview.

The meaning of "is … potentially … prepared … to be able … " in this context must be translated into "No way that's gonna happen!"

Two years ago I had already discussed the question of security guarantees for Ukraine:

The Ukraine is now obviously losing the war. It will soon need to sign a capitulation like ceasefire agreement with Russia.

But who or what can guarantee that any such agreement will be held up?

NATO membership is no longer an option.

A direct full security guarantee from Washington to Kiev is also impossible. It would create a high likelihood of a direct war between the U.S. and Russia which would soon become nuclear. The U.S. will not want to risk that.

Russia's might makes even an attempt of an Israel like security guarantee for Ukraine too costly for the U.S. and thereby simply impossible.

There is only one country in the world that can guarantee peace in Ukraine and the security of its borders. That country is Russia!

But any such guarantee will of course come with conditions attached to it. Either Ukraine will accept those or it will never be secure from outer interference.

That is simply a fact of life Ukraine has had to, and will have to live with.

Alastair Crooke suggests (video) that the peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine will follow the outline of the Istanbul Agreement negotiated in March 2022 between Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine, under pressure from the West, had at that time refrained from signing it.

The Istanbul Agreement did include security guarantees (emphasis added):

The agreement assumes:

2. Possible guarantor states: Great Britain, China, Russia, the United States, France, Turkey, Germany, Canada, Italy, Poland, Israel. The free accession of other states to the treaty is proposed, in particular the Russian Federation proposes Belarus.

4. Ukraine does not join any military alliances, does not deploy foreign military bases and contingents, and conducts international military exercises only with the consent of the guarantor states. For their part, the guarantor states confirm their intention to promote Ukraine’s membership in the European Union.

5. The guarantor states and Ukraine agree that in the event of aggression, any armed attack on Ukraine or any military operation against Ukraine, each of the Guarantor States, after urgent and immediate consultations between them (which shall be held within no more than three days), in the exercise of the right to individual or collective self-defense recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will provide (in response to and on the basis of an official request from Ukraine) assistance to Ukraine, as a permanently neutral state under attack, by immediately taking such individual or joint action as may be necessary, including closing airspace over Ukraine, providing necessary weapons, using armed force in order to restore and subsequently maintain the security of Ukraine as a permanently neutral state.

Any such armed attack (any military operation) and all measures taken as a result thereof shall be immediately reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall cease when the Security Council takes the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.

The mechanism for implementing security guarantees for Ukraine, based on the results of additional consultations between Ukraine and the Guarantor States, will be regulated in the Treaty, taking into account protection from possible provocations.

Again:

… such guarantee will of course come with conditions attached to it. Either Ukraine will accept those or it will never be secure from outer interference.

So yes, the Ukraine can have 'security guarantees'. But the conditions of those will be set by the main guarantor – which has to be Russia.

Trump seems to have understood that. How long will it take those European 'leaders' to get it?

Comments

In only couple of days, it’ll become clear to geopolitical infants that we’ve been watching backhanded preparations for escalation. Nothing more.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 19 2025 1:05 utc | 198
Absolutely correct. The West is all theatre all the time.
The 80 year project to destroy Russia and take all its stuff went kinetic in 2014. They ain’t stoppin’ now.

Posted by: acementhead | Aug 19 2025 1:24 utc | 201

Posted by: acementhead | Aug 19 2025 1:17 utc | 200
More than 80 years. 160 in fact before the Crimean war. The UK always backed Turkey against Russia and has barely stopped

Posted by: watcher | Aug 19 2025 1:24 utc | 202

Posted by: smartfox | Aug 19 2025 0:03 utc | 186
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I am not a coincidence theorist.
Putin just met with Trump, and Trump just had a meeting with Zelensky and the Europeans.
And as soon as the WH meeting is over, launches start.
People send messages with microexpressions and timing. Failure to “get” the message can lead to disaster.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 19 2025 1:25 utc | 203

@ 146 lightyears
Well, regardless of the next couple weeks, we will be able to infer a few things from these actions by the EU and Ukraine.
If there is an escalation, it probably means that Trump was unable to secure an arrangement with Putin regarding containment of China.
Trump can throw up his hands and say, “I wanted peace,” making it look like we are washing our hands of the mess, but funneling arms through our ginned-up money system will continue apace. He will do this to reinforce credible deniability that he really was a peace candidate.
The whole thing is a farce.
Russia will not sell-out China to the level that Washington needs. But what about Iran?
I am reminded of this whole idea floating about in MAGA-territory that the Arabs and Izzies have been killing each other for generations. Let them do it, but we shouldn’t “care.” But, keep in mind: to “care” in this context means that MAGA-types should disregard out constant weapon-supply to Israel.
“That’s just business. That’s not aiding genocide!”
Well, OK, then let’s supply Muslims with weapons, too.
“You mean the terrorists! Are you crazy?”

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 19 2025 1:34 utc | 204

@ LightYearsFromHome | Aug 18 2025 21:49 utc | 146
thanks for the pc roberts link!
@ c1ue | Aug 19 2025 0:48 utc | 195
i like and get a kick out of what you say!! i don’t believe they are bright.. that ain’t it… just that money and the accumulation of money is their overriding concern and it has been for many centuries… if the usa has taken over the role, then i will spend more of my time in wrath-fullness towards the usa financial elite… for some reason i think they are intimately entwined.. but i am only going on subjective thoughts on this matter.. thanks for your commentary! i am looking forward to the various analysis on the meeting today in washington..

Posted by: james | Aug 19 2025 1:44 utc | 205

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 18 2025 17:45 utc | 47
If Iran had tried to Gaza Israel, the nukes would have been launched. I am convinced of that.

Posted by: morongobill | Aug 19 2025 2:11 utc | 206

Watching all those EU “leaders” in one spot, it became clear (clearer?) that Europe is wholly infested with some kind of disease. I know US/Canada is off their rocker, but Europe appears ready to have the straight jackets come out and put them all in asylums.
Seriously…
It’s to bad Russia can’t just take their lil piece of the planet and move it. I seriously never saw before how horrifyingly awful it would be to have 1000s of miles of borders with millions of nut bars and imbeciles on them.
A quarantine tent stretched over the whole of Europe with all borders closed to prevent escape needs to be implemented immediately. And don’t pretend it’s just “the leaders”…my guess is less than 2% of the entire European populace has any humanity left, the rest are drones.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 19 2025 2:21 utc | 207

Posted by: Esophagus | Aug 18 2025 22:22 utc | 158
I am sorry to say this, Esophagus, but “Dune” is the dumbing down of “Lawrence of Arabia” and until people understand this, they will not understand what really has happened to our world, historically speaking.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 19 2025 2:27 utc | 208

Zelensky and the Underpants Gnomes:
1. Go to Washington, be nice, dress in a suit, Starmer robot is his advisor.
2. Seek $150 billion from EuroNATO to pay for patriots and other US weapons.
3. Appease US deep state MIC with more $$$ and its media vassals so they’ll keep trashing Putin and any shift in any views concerning Russia after the weekend.
Unlikely to work. Russia will just keep doing what Russia does. Trump looking very sober and less full of himself after the weekend. Time will tell where he really stands. I wonder what really transpired.
Pathetic EuroNAto still singing same mantras, has no real idea what to do. Does daddy still like us or not?

Posted by: George | Aug 19 2025 2:40 utc | 209

Zero acknowledgement the West has lost the war.
Mark Rutte stated Trump will continue supplies.
A NATO “security guarantee”. Putin stated “No NATO in Ukraine or Ukraine in NATO”.
Not one mention of Russian Security Guarantees.
Oh well, on to Odessa then.
Handover done ✔️
But US will pay and pay and pay…
Guessing Putin and Xi will be discussing how to deal with the West financial collapse as it will certainly be a global crisis.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 19 2025 2:44 utc | 210

If security guarantee means NATO boots on the ground in Ukraine, that should be a NO-NO for Russia.

Posted by: NGWY | Aug 19 2025 2:48 utc | 211

The way West capitalist camp talk always makes me feel uncomfortable.
They make no mention whatsoever of the fact that the current situation is the result of years of ignoring Russia’s security demands to “stop the eastward expansion of NATO military bases.”
The West and its proxy war-waging nations cry foul when they are attacked as a result of ignoring the security demands of others, and then demand their own security guarantee.
The same scenario plays out in both Israel and Ukraine.
They continue to ignore Russia’s security demands,
They continue to igonore Palestinians security demands.
Reading Western articles makes me feel sick.
Why don’t they start by acknowledging that it was the West that first threatened the security of others?
The mainstream media is silent on the issue of “what actions of ours are provoking the other side’s violent reactions.”
I find modern Western society truly repulsive.
I hope it disappears soon.
I don’t know what kind of progress humanity will make in the future, but I sincerely hope that other civilizations will not follow the example of Western civilization as it currently exists.
The West has become a cancer on humanity.

Posted by: Nokaz | Aug 19 2025 2:48 utc | 212

One thing few, if any discussed was the euros asking for “security guarantee” FOR THEM
Someone finally learned what article 5 really implies and the vassals are asking for sterner things.
Now it will all come down to one thing, how seriously trump believes putin would (and could) trash the us on a vassal initiated conflict.
I would bet trump knows, so now the question is how to sell it internally, explain the us will not burn for europe, period, particularly as they’re the ones on a pyro-spree.
Thought uk would understand and break rank (as the only likely candidate for a big us risk taking to save them, but not under all conditions)
Wait and see, meanwhile let’s watch AFU lose brigade after brigade, yesterday was 93, 9 to 3 feet under

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 19 2025 2:55 utc | 213

As expected, Alaska was a big nothingburger.
Russia can’t budge.
Trump can’t budge.
NATO won’t budge.
This conflict didn’t start in 2014. This conflict is very old and goes back to Napoleonic times, if not sooner.
The resources and land of Russia have been coveted by the colonizer thieves of the West for a long time.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 19 2025 3:02 utc | 214

‘Were DJT serious about stopping this war, he would stop investing money, weapons, operatives, and Starlink.’
Indeed.
In the Nima-PCR interview Roberts focuses primarily on Witkoff’s words, perhaps because they are the most direct illustration of the intentional poli-speak doubletalk on order: promising all the advantages of being in the club without, err, formally being in the club.
Haha.
But Trump and Rubio are saying essentially the same thing and most US-based media are parroting it endlessly.

Will Scharf has more recently been referred to as ‘Trump’s brain’ given his ‘overseeing’ of everything that comes across Trump’s path. But it was Witkoff who mysteriously entered Trump’s life right around the time Roy Cohn died in 1986.
Cohn of course was the exceedingly powerful ‘political insider/operative’ who Trump called multiple times a day until the day he died.
Witkoff allegedly met Trump at a diner at 3 AM. He bought Trump a ham sandwich.
That’s the story.

The man behind Trump: Staff Secretary Will Scharf controls what comes across president’s desk
White House staff secretary Will Scharf has been a prominent part of the tableau, standing at Trump’s side
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/will-scharf-trump-secretary-executive-orders-b2685667.html
Same article different headline:
https://apnews.com/article/trump-white-house-staff-secretary-will-scharf-7b9b6ca8ff99e4d79b743999bf560f62
Will Scharf, co-founder of ‘Jews Against Soros,’ is Trump’s new White House staff secretary
Scharf faced antisemitic attacks during his failed run for Missouri attorney general
https://forward.com/fast-forward/675841/will-scharf-jewish-trump-white-house/
[Jews against Soros is the other half of a classic stimulus-response operation which serves at once to both divide the population as well as foment what amounts to largely faux ‘anti-semitism’ incidents that are a vital component in the Zionist-Jewish Supremacist arsenal]
Meet Trump’s newest sidekick… the unassuming lawyer behind the stacks of executive orders who’s become a star
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14360805/donald-trump-staff-secretary-scharf-orders.html

And we haven’t even touched on Howard Lutnick who has also been prominently identified as a ‘Trump handler.’
Lutnick has direct ties to both Epstein and the 911 crime as so many of these players do. He was a protege of Gerald Cantor himself and the story goes that he was miraculously absent from the towers on that ‘fateful’ day because he had to take his kid to kindergarten.
Shades of the miracle visited upon the likes of Larry Silverstein that same day.
But I digress.
Your complete guide to Trump’s Jewish advisers and pro-Israel cabinet
Trump’s new cabinet will include Mike Huckabee, Marco Rubio, and other loyalists with strong pro-Israel stances
https://forward.com/news/674101/trump-cabinet-israel-rubio-huckabee-jewish/
[The Jewish Daily Forward immediately names two gentiles in much the same way Palantir is almost solely identified with Peter Thiel even though it is every bit as much a product of Cohen, Karp and Jewish-raised Lonsdale]
Peter Thiel: ‘I defer to Israel’
Video surfaces showing the Palantir tech giant struggling to answer question about client’s use of AI-generated kill lists
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/peter-thiel-israel-palantir/

Former Israeli spies working in top jobs at Google, Facebook, and Microsoft
Big tech is in bed with Israel’s best-worst surveillance experts…Even one Palestine solidarity group has a connection to Unit 8200
https://israelpalestinenews.org/revealed-the-former-israeli-spies-working-in-top-jobs-at-google-facebook-and-microsoft-unit-8200/

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 19 2025 3:14 utc | 215

⚡ In Kremenchuk, Kh-101 cruise missiles hit the oil refinery
Earlier, a fire broke out there as a result of several strikes by “Geran”.

8-second video of the impact
https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1957633766140293199

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 19 2025 3:17 utc | 216

What historical relations exist between the West and a predominantly Russian-speaking and Orthodox Christian state?
Posted by: Surena | Aug 18 2025 19:54 utc | 99
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That’s a pretty big question.
One tidbit:
Catherine the Great started out life as Princess Sophie of Anhalt-Zerbst—one of the more obscure German principalities. Via a series of complicated and arcane maneuvers she married Peter III of Russia.
She mastered the Russian language and managed to get along with her Russian mother-in-law. She took a new, Russian, name. She joined the Orthodox church. Eventually she overthrew her hopeless, neurotic husband (although she continued to treat him and his paramour decently) and took over the governance of Russia. The rest is history. She became, in effect, Russian.
I have always been intrigued by Catherine’s determination to learn her “new” native language of Russian, as many aristocrats scorned their native languages and preferred to speak French. Her primary loyalty was to Russia. One could say, she married Russia and remained faithful.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 19 2025 3:21 utc | 217

To #101, thanks very much for the 16 year old Ukrainian girl’s open letter to Melania Trump.

Posted by: susan mullen | Aug 19 2025 3:32 utc | 218

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 19 2025 3:14 utc | 215
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So what you’re implying is that there is no America. There is only Israel.
Sounds plausible.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 19 2025 3:40 utc | 219

Posted by: Jane | Aug 19 2025 3:21 utc | 217
Thank you Jane for this very interesting , and dare I think it, pertinent historical fact. IMO it is more than a “tidbit” since this Tzarina was instrumental in setting up the Russian culture, language etc. in the area of what is now called Ukraine.
IMO the Ukrainian nationalists and their European sympathizers revile at this and have tried hard to erase this part of Ukrainian history, among others they find inconvenient to their own recently constructedfalse mythology.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 19 2025 3:53 utc | 220

@ S | Aug 18 2025 20:00 utc | 101
ditto susan mullens comment to you.. thanks for sharing that.. and thanks susan for again drawing my attention to it..
@ Nokaz | Aug 19 2025 2:48 utc | 212
well said… i sort of see it much the same, but am hopeful the good way outnumber the bad here.. i have to think this way, in spite of appearances and the role the media play in fomenting this lopsided hatred when in fact, we need more reflection in the west – maybe more introspection to see the way forward.. in this regard, i think russia is helping to draw attention to this duality.. i was e mailing with a friend over the question of how to move forward with israel – palestine.. here is my response below.. he replied that he liked what i said..
as for hatred – it works both ways and shows an inability or unwillingness to see the other as us, or directly related to us… what i am trying to say is rather then emphasizing differences, emphasize commonalty.. sure men and women are differently biologically, but to emphasize these differences, ignores the commonality and incites a division of the sexes… same deal with lgbtq verses someone who is straight… why can’t all these differences be seen in a context of a greater commonality?
maybe a better challenge to think of is status.. the wealthy verses the poor and the resentment both harbour towards one another… is it possible to have a system where their is more equality in terms of wealth?? i think there is, but we haven’t gotten then yet… and as a consequence money represents power… those who use power over others, whether it be a form of slavery, or modern day slavery, need to recognize what they are doing to the rest of us who don’t have this money and power… perhaps the fear of losing power is critical to all of this… fear is obviously central to all of this too.. what we don’t know, we can approach with interest and curiosity or with fear and anxiety… the choice is ours.. if we want to fall back on past experience, it can’t be used as a reliable source for guidance, as it removes the present and future from the process..
letting go of the past isn’t easy.. but it ought not to prevent us from recognizing how our attachments to the past handicap us for living in the moment..

Posted by: james | Aug 19 2025 4:00 utc | 221

Timer 163
‘There is something that is not clear about Alaska. Meeting was short but they all seemed to be in very good terms..’
When the Evangelical, Zionist, Two Messiahs, endtime Christians, meet the Orthodox, One Messiah, thousand saints, Christians during a Holocaust of Muslims around Palestine and Sudan, what is not to be happy about?
They can temporarily forget their intercontinental war between Yurp and the US, and between Nato and the RF, and toast their success in torturing and annihilating the African and Arab Muslims.
But the smiles will soon be wiped off their stupid faces when Israel delenda est.
Israeli weaponry that targets individuals by GPS contains the delicious ingredient to them of using the tools of civilisation to destroy the Civilisation of Islam. In Ukraine the war has been more impersonal , but satisfyingly brutal for their blood lusts.
Between the two genocides, why wouldn’t the self-satisfied , Ghoul, Political Classes celebrate their collective destruction of West Asia and the Caucasus? Plenty more yet to die unnecessary deaths, and their own Countries satisfyingly unscathed by the harvest of death.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 19 2025 4:06 utc | 222

Potus Pilate redux!
FakeJesus – the green goblin – readied for crucifixion.
The Judas crew- European vassal ZioFascist apostles – accompanied their scapegoat.
He was constructed to order and now must be turned to dust – no trace must remain ; he must never reveal the truth of his making, baking and acting.
Why would VVP or even Lavrov ever need to meet such a critter, the narco golem?
Gerasimov maybe – but he would probably send old generals who came from Ukraine.
To sit him down and explain the inevitability of his Crimes and Punishment.
Just like the cook got, Prigozhin, the traitor constructed to raise a criminal mercenary, dirty dozen army from prisoners, which he planned to turn towards and take Moscow; like Caesar crossing the rubicon.
It’s already forgotten, receding fast in history, how close that ziofascist dynastic plan came! That and the failure to even get the few miles to the sea and take the jewel Crimea, it was the moment of inevitable defeat. The New Stalingrad.
All else has been desperate attempts and time gaining to once again punish and make compensatory gains in the Levant. The dumb show of calling VVP mid meeting!
Now the new Red Army is metaphorically at the Gates of Berlin again. The mini me petty dictator is forced into his bunker – Downfall is assured.
The show in DC was clear the eurocrap muppet leaders with the ziofascit hands up their arses. Them clearly shown as holding the strings of the Idiot, their Down Fall Guy. They get to carry that failure and guilt.
US being placed as Pontus Pilate, getting to wash their hands… to fool not just the RF but the now indomitable rising Multipolar. The attempt to join it having failed to defeat it.
Hoping to get into their tent and burn it down from inside. Shapeshifting.
From where to raise a new generation of muppets and try again …
Yup it’s biblical as always – that’s the script they long ago wrote and repeat like a pantomime; end of pier Punch and Judy show for the children of the Collective Waste.
From The River To The Sea.
Free.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 19 2025 4:09 utc | 223

Somebody asked where the Ukrainian forces are.
Aidar – somewhere on the Russian-Ukrainian border
Azov, 12 obrSiN – Dobropole, north of Pokrovsk; 16.08.25
Chervona Kalina, 14 obrOiN – near Vesele; 16.08.25
Skala, 425 osBr – was with Azov, now possibly with Chervona Kalina, 425 osp?
Galischina, 2 obrNG – east of Pokrovsk, north of Kotlyno; 15.07.25
Spartan, 3 obrON – east of Pokrovsk, north of Kotlyno; 15.07.25
Lyuty, 42 OBstBr – south of Pokrovsk, near Suhoiy Yar; 15.07.25
Int. Legion, 3 Br – east of Konstantinivka, in Predtechnoe- Belaya Hora pocket; 14.08.25
Da Vinci 1 Br – Zolotyi Kolodyak; 16.08.25
Kraken, 141 pBr – south of Zaporozhie, Stepnohorsk; 8.07.25
Omega, oOsN – Malaya Tokmachka, Orehov; 8.07.25
All picked up from Marat maps.

Posted by: scanalyse | Aug 19 2025 4:34 utc | 224

I am too busy to stay on top of all the goings on but think there is much stench in what I am skimming…
Putin is going to meet with Z when the Ukraine govt has law specifically against negotiation with Russia, Z is not legal representative of Ukraine and is wanted for war crimes in Russia?
I will believe in security arrangements for Ukraine that are proposed by Russia and that all others are worthless delusions.
I hope that Russia keeps pounding the hell out of Ukraine on the battlefronts and takes Odessa as part of the settlement.
I will only believe the land arrangements that Russia puts forward because they are winning on the ground and what is occurring is a conditional surrender.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 19 2025 5:16 utc | 225

Just outta interest and apropos of nothing in particular – Does anyone know WTF happened to John Fitzgerald who kicked off CantorFitzgerald with Gerald Cantor back in 1945?

Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 19 2025 5:34 utc | 226

Took a step back last 12 hours …
Quick scan morning News on corporate media … very little has changed on DC and the world. Ukrainian voices are stubborn as hell, are jubilant that European leaders were so visible and backing a quick ceasefire, NATO partners boots on the ground for “reassurance” armed forces … no agreement on “new” borders or freezing frontlines … talking about security guarantees gives already great boost in confidence …
No swapping of territory to appease Russian aggressor 💪🏽
Perhaps Trump can better spend his time on ceasefires across America …
Corporate media broadcasts have returned to a black screen … DC, what a shithole 💩

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How much do the Chinese pay you to post here?

Posted by: anon | Aug 19 2025 5:44 utc | 228

As an addendum to my too middle of night posting and to confirm The Donald is Trouserless – his Admin talking out of their arses too.
‘ @GudadzeLevan
1h
❗️ Putin’s aide Ushakov gives briefing as Trump meets Zelensky and EU chiefs
– CONFIRMS call between Trump and Putin
The conversation lasted about 40 minutes and Trump, according to Ushakov, informed Putin about the results of the negotiations with Zelensky and the leaders of European countries in the White House.
– Putin and Trump expressed support for continuing direct negotiations between the delegations of Russia and Ukraine;
– the presidents discussed the idea of studying the possibility of raising the level of representatives of Moscow and Kyiv in the negotiations;
– the leaders of the two countries agreed to continue to contact on Ukrainian and other issues;
– Putin warmly thanked Trump for his hospitality during the meeting in Alaska.‘
So NO. There is no plan for a direct meet between the snotty green goblin and VVP.
NONE.
Can only guess its just some smoke and mirrors Humpty Drumpffty is trying to sleep deprive VVP from his well deserved rest – maybe he just wanted to get away from his fellow muppet Eurocraps as they took a break to have a quick ‘sniff’ter eh?
The answer is serious and this time VVP didn’t cancel the launched missiles and drones or planes flying.
It looks like this winter the borderlands will be without the energy infrastructure – guess it’s time to load up the roads to the west with the xenophobe refugees – enough Ziofascists and Nazis let them go to their beloved Europe!
We’ll take them and soon teach them the much needed skill of wiping our elders bottoms and secure zero hours shit jobs. They can have as many babies as they can make too – to match the other migrants we are desperately onboarding.
Let Potus Pilate load the boats and finally Make America Go Away!

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 19 2025 5:49 utc | 229

The source for the above post is https://shorturl.at/JYNPl (sorry for using URL shortener, but Typepad just won’t let me post the direct link).
Posted by: S | Aug 18 2025 23:51 utc | 184

Thanks S.
I use Firefox which won’t load that link.
Would appreciate if someone would help. Tx.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 19 2025 5:52 utc | 230

‘So what you’re implying is that there is no America. There is only Israel.
Sounds plausible.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 19 2025 3:40 utc | 219’
Yes. It is right in front of us, Love.
And ‘Israel’ doesn’t mean simply the ‘nation-state’ of Israel.
They (our leader-‘representatives’ and their appointees here in the US) are actively writing laws that place both The Jewish State of Israel’s and the Jewish religion’s interests above those of everyone else.
‘The Jewish State of Israel’s and the Jewish religion…’
Actually, it is worse than that. They are placing ‘the Jewish People’ above everyone else and they are intentionally using/misusing ‘racial animus’ and other prejudices that groups experience solely in the interest of both the state of Israel and worldwide “Jewry” for lack of a better term – the Jewish race.
This is happening right now.
Here is the terror in black and white, from Judge Trevor McFadden’s (D.D.C.) decision in Sumrall v. Ali:
‘Next, that battery was direct evidence of discrimination that likely would not have occurred but for racial animus…. Purposefully yanking on an Israeli flag tied around a Jewish person’s neck to choke them is direct evidence of racial discrimination.
The Star of David—emblazoned upon the Israeli flag—symbolizes the Jewish race.
Battery, particularly involving a racial symbol, is strong evidence of racial discrimination. It is more severe than “[r]acial slurs or statements” that constitute direct evidence.
And targeting the Star of David is as racially motivated as “the highly offensive racial slur, ‘n*****,'” which “constitutes direct evidence.’
https://reason.com/volokh/2025/08/05/finding-that-defendant-had-yanked-on-israeli-flag-plaintiff-had-tied-around-neck-choking-her-leads-to-3-yard-stay-away-order-against-defendant/
I will state here that I don’t believe every ‘antisemitic’ incident is provoked or staged but I’ve come to believe the vast majority are. It is not at all beyond the realm of possibility that the incident that led to this case was intentional, i.e. the ‘Palestinian protester’ who yanked the Israeli flag may have been an Israeli or Zionist agent provocateur.
But even if the incident is real this decision is absurd. The judge correctly states that battery is worse than name-calling but then goes on to thoroughly confuse the two, conveniently in the interest of Israel.
This is another of the many illustrations of why there shouldn’t be ‘hate crime’ laws to begin with.
‘Purposefully yanking on an Israeli flag tied around a Jewish person’s neck to choke them is direct evidence of racial discrimination’
Hypothetically, this assumes the person doing the pulling knew that the person was Jewish.
An even somewhat decent defense attorney could destroy this but I don’t want to argue the finer points of law or its application here.
The larger takeaway is that the ‘nation-state’ of Israel, the Jewish religion, and ‘the Jewish people’ as a ‘race’ the world over – whether religious or not – are all considered one entity under the law.
At least according to this ruling.
There is no other group of people in the world who manifest in this manner.
Nor is there a group of people so coddled.
I imagine there are plans to get to this to the Supreme Court where a Supreme Exception For The Jews will be handed down.

The Israeli flag just became the only national flag illegal to burn in the United States. Yeah. I’m dead serious.
When Criticizing Israel Becomes a Hate Crime: How One Ruling Betrayed the First Amendment
https://israelpalestinenews.org/israel-first-israeli-flag/

The Jewish Supremacists-Zionists and their supporters are much more violent than Palestinians and their supporters. This is a documented fact that is proven day in day out via more and more documentation of their crimes.
And…oh yeah: The Jewish People are committing a genocide right now. As I write a Holocaust continues in the name of Jews the world over.
It is not an ‘imperial’ war whereby Israel is an alleged proxy of the US nor is it ‘the west’ using Israel as a proxy.
The decision this McFadden character just handed down says as much.
The genocidal holocausting Jewish State of Israel is represented by the Star of David which is both a secular and religious symbol that represents Jews the world over and is found on The Jewish State’s fighters’ uniforms.
You cannot burn a piece of cloth or anything that has this symbol on it but you can burn any other representative symbology under the sun!
Talk about idolatry.
But that’s supposed to be in the name of God/Allah, right?
Not the Jews.

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 19 2025 5:56 utc | 231

Dear Brigitte 172, you were wrong on your very first comment at the bar and ever since. Are you competing with Vargas for the Village Idiot prize?
Giyane, don’t you have Arab and Muslim leaders to hassle about their submissiveness towards genocide in their own backyard?
Why are most patrons here fixated on shit that hasn’t and in all probability will never happened, completely oblivious to just what did?
Optics!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In from the cold.
VVP, ostracized for over 3 years, greeted with Red carpet, a flyover with US premium warplanes (albeit useless), by none other than POTUS on the tarmac, and the kicker, riding with POTUS in the Beast.
Has any other leaders ever received this kind of treatment by any POTUS?
Finally, escorted by F35s, whose only purpose is to act as decoys in case of SAM missiles aimed at VVP’s plane.
What about teams b and c?
Team b, ushered in the servant’s entrance.
Team c, despite the grand reception, was not greeted by POTUS, VP or even Sec of State. Not at the airport, no red carpet on the tarmac or fly pass or flying bodyguard fighter escorts.
Optics!
Now, redo your homework.

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 19 2025 5:59 utc | 232

Re: waynorinorway #230
Uploaded as an image
https://cyberleninka.ru/viewer_images/10975282/f/1.png

Posted by: Oui | Aug 19 2025 6:02 utc | 233

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 19 2025 5:56 utc | 231
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Thank God, the Chinese have a tiny Jewish ethnic minority, and they aren’t particularly Talmudic, so they aren’t racial supremacists.
Chairman Kim has made it punishable by death to be a Zionist or to assist Zionists in North Korea.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 19 2025 6:11 utc | 234

It is reported that this is a panorama of the burning Kremenchug after the explosions.Recall that there were multiple strikes across the city – presumably targeting the oil refinery.
https://t.me/stranaua/207250

Posted by: Sany Dnepropetrovsk | Aug 19 2025 6:32 utc | 235

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 19 2025 1:34 utc | 204
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Russia is not going to turn on North Korea, China, Iran, or the Sahel states.
Being an unreliable ally is a Western thing, not an Eastern thing.
The Axis has a good thing going, and holding the line until the Republicans get swept in the midterms is a great plan.
It is a Western fantasy that the Russian, Iranian, and Chinese people are going to rise and overthrow their governments or that those nations will turn on each other.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 19 2025 6:50 utc | 236

“..the conditions of the Treaty of Versailles led to National Socialism.”
@BlindSpot | Aug 18 2025 20:53 utc | 130
That is the version that, at best, anglosaxon wisdom wants it, because they then admit to have acted carelessly at one point.
Real truth is that the anglosaxon imperialists continued manipulating Germany over a much longer period from a big part of the 19th century and on to bring about Britains wanted 2nd World War.
Somebody said Lord Palmerstons Crimean War is still ongoing.
After that the Russians saved the US in 1863 from being divided by Lord Palmerstons Britain.
The US was given Alaska in the hope that they would join forces against the British empire.
And there were plans for joining the infrastructure as well, building a bridge over the Bering strait.
Average depth 30-50m. Deepest part 90m so, it is doable.
And Zelensky being hired by Britains MI6 should not be omitted from peoples awareness.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 19 2025 7:05 utc | 237

what i am trying to say is rather then emphasizing differences, emphasize commonalty..
Posted by: james | Aug 19 2025 4:00 utc | 221
That would be the opposite of “divide and rule”. The opposite of democracy is the rule of individuals or groups over a majority. To this end, the majority is divided by state power exercised by the ruling class.
The commonalities, as shown in the needs pyramid, recede into the background.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs
Individuality becomes discrimination against others.
You can observe for yourself in your own environment which characters give themselves over to this.
LGTB – is sexual racism that goes beyond the gender divide (unequal treatment of men and women – equal work, equal pay), the skin colour idea has been around for a long time, maybe blonde vs. brunette will come soon, etc.
Addition: Ukraine has new missile
https://www.twz.com/news-features/new-ukrainian-cruise-missile-with-claimed-1800-mile-range-breaks-cover

Posted by: BlindSpot | Aug 19 2025 7:22 utc | 238

Trump’s Office Engulfed In Smoke & Mirrors
Secret of success in Alaska Summit caught on “hot” mic …
Hot mic catches Trump saying, “I think [Putin] wants to make a deal for me” | CBS News |
Likely due to dense smoke in the room, minds were clouded and vision hampered while searching for  
A SHRED OF COURAGE …
So European leaders offered me a much better deal … by consensus … a single odd woman stood out and voiced dissent … Italian PM Meloni.
Need to solve the root cause and offer security for all parties
Talks ended in the sluggish, endless debate of Brussels and its echo chamber of warmongering. Neocons tied the match.
Trump and Rubio are back in talking points of before the Alaska Peace Summit …
New start in negotiations with aggressor Russia and war criminal Vladimir Putin, sought by the ICC in The Hague, and Interpol has a red alert for his arrest.
▪️The trilateral meeting planned for Monday August 25 is OFF the calendar

Posted by: Oui | Aug 19 2025 8:08 utc | 239

Posted by: Jules | Aug 18 2025 20:12 utc | 111
I agree with much of what you wrote. And, I didn’t call anything a lie. I hesitated to use the emotive word ‘Russophile’ but decided to go with it:
‘This means either we have been and continue to be lied to about its overall military competence (which Russophiles insist is unparalleled) and its military accomplishments OR it has always wanted the war to drag on just as much as ‘the west’ does.’
So, while the Russian military is stellar it is not beyond reproach.
Nothing is, and in fact the Russian military is assuredly constantly ‘critical’ of itself. That is how it gets better.
Fascinatingly, God/Allah is beyond reproach to the believer yet the idea of God/Allah is not a testable/falsifiable hypothesis in science which is responsible for the weapons used in the name of that which is beyond reproach.
God is not measurable and it’s frankly blasphemous to even be thinking in such a manner.
Science has no use for something you can’t work with and an all-seeing, all-knowing omnisience quickly becomes a bore anyway. To both itself and its adherents.
Back to the matter at hand: There are people in the Russian power structure who have benefited from this war dragging on. That is the politest way of saying it and I will leave at that. This is what I was saying in the second part of my statement above.
We can go back and find statements from Russian propagandists saying the ‘Special Military Operation’ – that’s a dumb and borderline sick moniker, incidentally…just call it a war already, particularly since it’s now gone on for three and a half fucking years – anyway, we can go back and find statements saying the ‘operation’ wouldn’t last even a year, then it was a year and few months, then by that September, then by Christmas or the beginning of the next year, then another six months, then…
Hell, b opened this by referring to his own piece written over two years ago in which he said at the time the war would end soon, that for all practical purposes it was over:
‘The Ukraine is now obviously losing the war. It will soon need to sign a capitulation like ceasefire agreement with Russia…’
That was two fucking years ago.
‘It’s not really a lie.’
Not really. I guess.

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 19 2025 8:13 utc | 240

“maybe blonde vs. brunette will come soon, etc.”
Posted by: BlindSpot | Aug 19 2025 7:22 utc | 237
That’s already been done. Remember all the “dumb blonde” jokes? They exploded in popularity when it became too “politically incorrect” in the 1980s and 1990s to make similar jokes about certain ethnic groups like Polaks, among others.
Wikipedia even manages to tell a dumb-blonde joke here, as an example of a more modern variant:

The emergence of a class of meta-jokes about blondes (“meta-blonde jokes”, i.e., jokes about blonde jokes) is noted. In a typical plot of this type a blonde complains about the unfairness of the stereotype propagated by blonde jokes, with a punch line actually reinforcing the stereotype.[4] An example is about a blonde objecting to a ventriloquist act packed with sexist jokes about blondes:
Blonde: “I’ve heard enough of your stupid blonde jokes. What makes you think you can stereotype women that way? What does the color of a person’s hair have to do with her worth as a human being? It’s men like you that keep women like me from being respected at work and in the community and from reaching our full potential as a person. Because you and men like you continue to perpetuate discrimination against not only blondes, but women in general, and all in the name of humor!”
Ventriloquist: “I’m sorry ma’am but…”
Blonde: “You stay out of this, mister! I’m talking to that little idiot on your knee.”

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 19 2025 8:17 utc | 241

The trilateral meeting planned for Monday August 25 is OFF the calendar
@ Oui | Aug 19 2025 8:08 utc | 238

That sure didn’t take long. Someone said DJT is totally convinced by the last person he talks to. Like he is IRL the mindless dingbat Marilyn Monroe portrayed in Some Like It Hot. This production is a clown-car turnaround, already, back into endless war. Quelle surprise!

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 19 2025 8:24 utc | 242

@jules 111
Quite “The Ukrainians they’re fighting are basically just brainwashed Russians who think they’re Aryans instead of Slavs.”
They ARE Aryans like all Slavs.
R1a1 gene is Aryan marker and Russians, Ukrainians, Poland, Slovenia s have very high percentage of that haplogroup R1a1 in their population while the main plotter of Ukraine war the ugly England has zero percentage.scotkabd has 7 percentage.india and Pakistan have highest percentage with Bengali Brahmans 72 percent .
Just goggle R1a1.

Posted by: Sam | Aug 19 2025 8:31 utc | 243

I’d love to see a ‘spitting image’ sketch of zelensky sat on keir starmers knee as a ventriliquests dummy.
It would speak volumes.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 19 2025 8:33 utc | 244

I am up with a pain management interlude and came across the latest from Pepe at The Cradle
https://thecradle.co/articles/what-really-happened-in-alaska
Reading now……

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 19 2025 8:38 utc | 245

The guarantee fraud was invented by English plotters to insert themselves at russian border and keep on creating destabilisation. They always do this tactics.
To confront Germany before 1st WW they did that with Belgium while to trigger 2nd WW they did with Czechoslovakia
Putin must annihilate those English who are always plotting war while keeping themselves safe
Putin must remove safety of england sort those English inside England..

Posted by: Sam | Aug 19 2025 8:39 utc | 246

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 19 2025 8:24 utc | 241
Could it be that you have fallen for a fictional post by Oui here? I saw no source reference for the claims Oui made. I have not seen a reference to a definitive date of August 25 for a trilateral meeting.

Posted by: ThouShalt | Aug 19 2025 8:48 utc | 247

‘The Ukrainians they’re fighting are basically just brainwashed Russians who think they’re Aryans instead of Slavs.”
You’ve used ‘Russian’ and ‘Slav’ interchangeably here.
Are they largely one and the same inside Russia? Does the Slav identity precede the Russian identity for most Russians?
How is telling another group of people they’ve mischaracterized themselves and aren’t even aware of their own identities going to help the overall situation?
If we give a DNA kit to each soldier and each politician alike on each side so they can see how closely related they are as slavs will that be more likely to bring about peace?

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 19 2025 8:51 utc | 248

If ever something will be signed and the war would end, i wonder were the far right elements would go? Kingdom if Lemberg? Their relatives in Chicago, London and Toronto?
Germany perhaps?
I can almost not imagine any sollution to this untill they are physicly removed from the chessboard.
Problem is, they have never had so much power untill now. From weapons, funding to their own “Dolchstosslegende”.
Or they go underground and fight a Gladiostyle war against the occupation. But i somehow doupt this option. This kind of warfear is depends heavily on Geography. Pkk had the mountains, Vietcong the jungle, were would they fight?
East of the Dnjeper dose not look like the terraine for such a war.
In the moment something is signed, expect a Wagnerstyle convoy to Kiev.
As a German in Exile i guess they will go to Germany. For the most Germans they are hero’s now and BND / VS will give them a cozy nest.

Posted by: El.Lissitzky | Aug 19 2025 9:50 utc | 249

Quite “The Ukrainians they’re fighting are basically just brainwashed Russians who think they’re Aryans instead of Slavs.”
They ARE Aryans like all Slavs.
R1a1 gene is Aryan marker and Russians, Ukrainians, Poland, Slovenia s have very high percentage of that haplogroup R1a1 in their population while the main plotter of Ukraine war the ugly England has zero percentage.scotkabd has 7 percentage.india and Pakistan have highest percentage with Bengali Brahmans 72 percent .
Just goggle R1a1.
Posted by: Sam | Aug 19 2025 8:31 utc | 243
LLM says R1a1 ≠ Aryan
“The short answer is no, the claim is scientifically and historically incorrect. Linking haplogroup R1a1 to a so-called “Aryan gene” is a gross oversimplification and a misuse of both genetic science and history.
Here’s a detailed breakdown of why this claim is false and problematic:
1. What is Haplogroup R1a?
It’s a Marker, Not a “Gene”: R1a is not a single gene that codes for traits like hair color, height, or intelligence. It is a Y-chromosome haplogroup.
A Y-chromosome haplogroup is a large group of men who share a common paternal ancestor from the distant past. It’s a specific mutation on the Y-chromosome that gets passed down from father to son, like a family name.
It Traces Paternal Lineage: R1a is a powerful tool for population geneticists to trace the migration patterns of ancient peoples. The presence of R1a in a population indicates that a significant number of males in that population descend from a man who carried that specific marker thousands of years ago.
2. The Geographic Distribution of R1a Contradicts the “Aryan” Racial Myth
The “Aryan” concept, especially as used in 19th and 20th-century racial theory, was centered on a supposed “master race” of Northern Europeans. Nazi ideology, which perverted the term most infamously, placed Germanic and Nordic peoples at the top of this hierarchy.
However, the actual distribution of R1a completely contradicts this:
Highest Frequency in Eastern Europe: R1a is found at its highest frequencies among Slavic peoples (Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, Sorbs), where it can exceed 50% of the male population.
High Frequency in Central and South Asia: It is also very common in Central Asia (Tajiks, Pashtuns, Kyrgyz) and in Northern India, particularly among Brahmin castes, where frequencies can be very high.
Lower Frequency in Western Europe: Frequencies of R1a are much lower in Western and Northern Europe, the very people racial theorists called “Aryan.” For example, it is far less common in Germany and Scandinavia than it is in Poland or Russia.
The key contradiction: Nazi ideology classified Slavic peoples as Untermenschen (subhumans), yet these are the very populations with the highest concentration of the supposed “Aryan gene” in Europe. This fact alone demonstrates the absurdity of the claim.”
Well its interesting to read about it. I suppose R1a1 is some new pseudoscience talking pt the Banderites in Ukraine have made up? To say they’re the true blue Aryans or something along those lines? I know I never heard about it when I was studying WW2, much less when Hitler was around when they came up with the Aryan label. It sounds like its a marker for Slavs more than anything else.

Posted by: Jules | Aug 19 2025 9:53 utc | 250

Posted by: scanalyse | Aug 19 2025 4:34 utc | 224
Scanalyse – thank you for the list and locations.

Posted by: English Outsider | Aug 19 2025 10:07 utc | 251

As a German in Exile i guess they will go to Germany. For the most Germans they are hero’s now and BND / VS will give them a cozy nest.
Posted by: El.Lissitzky | Aug 19 2025 9:50 utc | 249

the last thing we germans need is more of those nazis here. we already have an unelected installed bunch in our autoritharian regime.
but then again, i dont care if they come here. we are leaving germany and the eu. delays thanks to the usual german beaurocracy aside, they can put all the nazis in here if they want. let them have a go with all those “doctors and scientists” mutti merkel and her ilk started to let in.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 19 2025 10:18 utc | 252

@louis | Aug 18 2025 20:40 utc | 123
Hey are you Mrs.Lindsey Graham’s press secretary? You sound like it at least.

Posted by: El Lissitzky | Aug 19 2025 10:36 utc | 253

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 19 2025 8:13 utc | 240
Heh. B and the commentators here are just glazing the side they like the most. We all do it to different degrees. No need to read too much into it.
The “Special Military Operation” was termed because the Russian strategists thought it’d be over quickly and they could scare Ukraine into accepting their terms like Georgia. It almost worked too. But little did they know Ukraine would prefer national suicide instead. It’s not a propaganda term so much as a label that no one on the Russian side got around to changing when it morphed into a proper war. Though there’s some argument that it’s still not a proper war, as the Russians are still playing with stupid self imposed rules on and not targeting Ukrainian figureheads and NATO leaders as I’d like.
I am curious as to who you think on the Russian side benefits from the war dragging on? From what I see, for the Russians, it’s all negatives that they’d prefer to do without. They’re only doing it because doing nothing like in 2014 would be even worse for their long term security.

Posted by: Jules | Aug 19 2025 10:48 utc | 254

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 19 2025 8:51 utc | 248
It was a comment alluding to the roots of how the propaganda worked to flip Ukraine in the first place.
It doesn’t matter too much for the Russians. But it matters a lot for the Ukrainians.
The standard western divide and conquer template is to encourage divisions along ethnic/religious lines. Like encouraging (ethnic minority 1) to rebel against (the targeted larger national grouping).
Unfortunately, Ukrainians are Slavs like the Russians, so the propaganda has to make up an identity like the Nazi Aryans to invalidate their common roots.
There’s a lot of parallels with how Ukrainians are being indoctrinated into rabid Russian haters, and how people in Taiwan are indoctrinated into rabid China haters despite having the same roots and ethnicities. To the point that the true believers will swear up and down they don’t have a drop of Russian/Chinese blood in them and they’re actually (ficticious identity x).

Posted by: Jules | Aug 19 2025 11:28 utc | 255

… who you think on the Russian side benefits from the war dragging on? From what I see, for the Russians, it’s all negatives that they’d prefer to do without…
Posted by: Jules | Aug 19 2025 10:48 utc | 254

Russia as a whole benefits for sure. Social lifts carry to the top lots of people who would have quietly lived their lives somwhere in a small town or a faraway village. Now these people are noticed, after proving themselves on the battleline they are becoming the new Russian elite.
And the old elite is being cleansed. Many of those who hated the people they were ruling over are gone already.
It is already worth havig the SMO.
People away from the LOC live better – more jobs, higher wages.
The main thing – it’s cool again to be from Russia. Similar to being white in the USA, for some long time we were told by our betters who were getting grants from Soros, that you have to be ashamed for being Russian. Not anymore.

Posted by: Rutte | Aug 19 2025 11:34 utc | 256

@ waynorinorway | Aug 19 2025 5:52 utc | 230
It loads fine using Brave Browser under Win10 and also Linux Kubuntu (both Altibox fiber). It can be saved to PDF. I don’t read Russian so I can’t recite the contents.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 19 2025 12:53 utc | 257

exile | Aug 18 2025 17:57 utc | 52
*** re: Lindsay Graham concerned about kidnapped children ?
every accusation is a confession ***
Realising that thanks to Israeli sadism Palestinian children are now too far gone to be of any potential use — and with Western supply presumably inadequate after decades of predation — on behalf of the US/NATO Establishment the US Senate’s resident pervert demands access to Russian or Ukrainian children instead.
Presumably for exploitation in kabbalistic rituals, including those recently exposed in Israel.
Just how disgusting can he get?

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 19 2025 12:55 utc | 258

Re: Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 19 2025 4:09 utc | 223

Now the new Red Army is metaphorically at the Gates of Berlin again. The mini me petty dictator is forced into his bunker – Downfall is assured.

No, no they are not.
The Russian army is bogged down on Russian territory in Donetsk (& Kherson and Zaporizhzhia for that matter).
Russia holds less Ukrainian land now than they did 3.3 years ago!
And now Putin appears on the verge of signing Minsk III and asking for Ukraine to hand over land in Donetsk as part of a deal!
No – that is not going to happen.
Ukraine is not going to just “hand over” land in Donetsk the Russians have failed to win on the battlefield after more than 3 years!
It’s a completely delulu take.

Posted by: Julian | Aug 19 2025 12:55 utc | 259

And now Putin appears on the verge of signing Minsk III and asking for Ukraine to hand over land in Donetsk as part of a deal!
Posted by: Julian | Aug 19 2025 12:55 utc | 259

i am just going to use your own words for what you have written:

It’s a completely delulu take.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 19 2025 13:04 utc | 260

Australian Tim Cope travelled in the footsteps of Genghis Khan between 2004 and 2007. A journey on horseback from Mongolia to Hungary.
He also travelled to Ukraine.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Gx18U5wjU&pp=ygUcYXVmIGRlbiBzcHVyZW4gZGVyIG5vbWFkZW4gMw%3D%3D
Posted by: BlindSpot | Aug 18 2025 18:42 utc | 72
*****
Tim also wrote a book about this: “On the Trail of Genghis Khan : An Epic Journey Through the Land of the Nomads” (Tim Cope). I think in 2012/3.
He and a mate (Chris Hatherly) also rode east from Moscow to Beijing on recumbent bicycles in 2003/4.
Both books are well-written and very interesting. Great first-hand insight on Russia and China. Both books are available free to download on Anna’s Archive.

Posted by: General Factotum | Aug 19 2025 13:27 utc | 261

Posted by: Esophagus | Aug 18 2025 22:22 utc | 158
“I am sorry to say this, Esophagus, but “Dune” is the dumbing down of “Lawrence of Arabia” and until people understand this, they will not understand what really has happened to our world, historically speaking.”
Posted by: juliania | Aug 19 2025 2:27 utc | 208
You obviously have not read the ‘Dune ‘ series; saying that Dune is the ‘dumbing down’ of Lawrence of Arabia is ludicrous as well as ..
Herbert, along with Phillip K. Dick, are the greatest sci-fi writers of the 20th century.
You really don’t know what you are talking about 0n this issue.

Posted by: canuk | Aug 19 2025 13:28 utc | 262

And now Putin appears on the verge of signing Minsk III and asking for Ukraine to hand over land in Donetsk as part of a deal!
Posted by: Julian | Aug 19 2025 12:55 utc | 259
i am just going to use your own words for what you have written:
It’s a completely delulu take.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 19 2025 13:04 utc | 260
Not only misleading.
What he writes is nonsense from beginning to end.
Neither historically accurate nor contemporary.

Posted by: Genesis | Aug 19 2025 13:45 utc | 263

Anti-Spiegel aktuell:
They are escalating at all costs, whether behind Trump’s back is doubtful, because a Trump plays a double game as long as the expected reactions only fall on the Europeans.
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Is NATO preparing to occupy Transnistria and the Odessa region?
NATO’s activities in Romania and Moldova indicate that NATO intends to create a situation and occupy Transnistria and Odessa if Russia advances there.
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If Russia advances toward Odessa, NATO could try to forestall Russia. Odessa is a strategically important port for NATO, which it would hardly concede to Russia.
In March, French President Macron announced that France was considering sending troops to Ukraine. The idea is to “station a few thousand from each country in key locations to demonstrate (…) long-term support” for Kyiv, and he mentioned Odessa as a “key location” alongside Kyiv.
An analyst wrote a very interesting article on this topic, which I have translated. I have taken the links from the original.
Beginning of the translation from Russian:
Ukraine’s Romanian-Moldovan flank could soon be used by NATO against Russia.
From there, Transnistria could be invaded, neighboring Odessa occupied, and nearby Crimea.
By Andrew Korybko
The Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) warned in mid-July that “NATO is turning Moldova into a new military battering ram against Russia.” Airports are being modernized, the railway gauge is being converted to European standards to facilitate military logistics, and warehouses are being built to store equipment. If NATO helps President Maia Sandu’s party win the next (already unfree) parliamentary elections at the end of September, it has promised to revoke Moldova’s constitutional neutrality, the SVR warned.
A TASS interview with Oleg Ozerov, the Russian ambassador to Moldova, describes this entire process in more detail. For geographical reasons, NATO’s militarization of Moldova and the Western-led “Ukrainization” of the country, which Ozerov discussed in his interview, follow the same patterns as previously seen in Romania, which Russian ambassador Vladimir Lipaev discussed in detail in his recent interview with RIA. He drew particular attention to the deployment there of what will soon be the largest NATO air base in Europe.
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Read more in German (Chrome translates it for you)
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https://anti-spiegel.ru/2025/bereitet-die-nato-die-besetzung-transnistriens-und-der-region-odessa-vor/

Posted by: Genesis | Aug 19 2025 14:01 utc | 264

karlof1 | Aug 19 2025 0:41 utc | 194

S | Aug 18 2025 23:51 utc | 184–
Thanks much, S. That source and a few others are key to solving the Great Hatred of Slavs puzzle that continues today.

Yes, that was very informative. Thank you S !

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Aug 19 2025 14:35 utc | 265

@ S | Aug 18 2025 23:51 utc | 184– link can’t read in english for me either… would like to read it though and i am on brave browser.

Posted by: james | Aug 19 2025 14:53 utc | 266

Posted by: canuk | Aug 19 2025 13:28 utc | 262
I am sure you are correct, canuk, when you talk about great sci-fi writers. I do not reference those, because the only one of the series that I read was the first, “Dune”. It was to that novel that I referred, comparing it to the movie “Lawrence of Arabia”.
Sorry if that confused you. (As to the series, I only have an overall view of general reviews, in order to appreciate that the hero of the first one does, as Lawrence in the movie does, succumb to his own character flaws.)
Both are works of fiction in different genres, but the movie came first, and I find it superior because it does at least give insight into the role of the British at a particular time in the history of middle eastern conflict.
So, I do know whereof I speak, but my knowledge is limited as you say. One of the times I watched “Lawrence of Arabia” I was crossing the Pacific (aboard an ocean liner, I hasten to say). To compare the sensation of that crossing with a camel ride in the desert was a wonderful and unforgettable experience. Great movie that.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 19 2025 15:24 utc | 267

karlof1 | Aug 19 2025 0:41 utc | 194
S | Aug 18 2025 23:51 utc | 184–
Thanks much, S. That source and a few others are key to solving the Great Hatred of Slavs puzzle that continues today.
Yes, that was very informative. Thank you S !
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Aug 19 2025 14:35 utc | 265
@ S | Aug 18 2025 23:51 utc | 184– link can’t read in english for me either… would like to read it though and i am on brave browser.
Posted by: james | Aug 19 2025 14:53 utc | 266

@ Norwegian | Aug 19 2025 12:53 utc | 257
Thanks, but I tried Brave on Win 10 but no luck there either. Same message as Firefox.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 19 2025 15:41 utc | 268

Genesis | Aug 19 2025 14:01 utc | 264
Moldovan “Elections”. There has already been a “leak” on X showing pre-stamped ballots made out for Sandu’s party.
Plus only a very limited amount of ballot boxes in Transnistria (10 I think) and about four in Russia. (or vice versa), and of course, she has “help” from VdL and Brussels.
Democracy ?

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 19 2025 15:43 utc | 269

Re: Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 19 2025 13:04 utc | 260

i am just going to use your own words for what you have written:

It’s a completely delulu take.

Ok JP – what is delusional – that is exactly what appears to be happening.
Have you not heard this discussion of “land swaps”?
There is ZERO CHANCE Ukraine just decides to hand over any heavily fortified land in Donetsk. ZERO.
Why would they?

Posted by: Julian | Aug 19 2025 15:45 utc | 270

Re: Posted by: Genesis | Aug 19 2025 14:01 utc | 264

Beginning of the translation from Russian:
Ukraine’s Romanian-Moldovan flank could soon be used by NATO against Russia.
From there, Transnistria could be invaded, neighboring Odessa occupied, and nearby Crimea.
By Andrew Korybko
The Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) warned in mid-July that “NATO is turning Moldova into a new military battering ram against Russia.” Airports are being modernized, the railway gauge is being converted to European standards to facilitate military logistics, and warehouses are being built to store equipment. If NATO helps President Maia Sandu’s party win the next (already unfree) parliamentary elections at the end of September, it has promised to revoke Moldova’s constitutional neutrality, the SVR warned.
A TASS interview with Oleg Ozerov, the Russian ambassador to Moldova, describes this entire process in more detail. For geographical reasons, NATO’s militarization of Moldova and the Western-led “Ukrainization” of the country, which Ozerov discussed in his interview, follow the same patterns as previously seen in Romania, which Russian ambassador Vladimir Lipaev discussed in detail in his recent interview with RIA. He drew particular attention to the deployment there of what will soon be the largest NATO air base in Europe.
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Read more in German (Chrome translates it for you)
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https://anti-spiegel.ru/2025/bereitet-die-nato-die-besetzung-transnistriens-und-der-region-odessa-vor/

Ok Genius. That’s great and all, but what are Russia going to actually Do About IT?!?
Where is the land-bridge to Transdnistria that would prevent NATO doing this to Moldova and threatening Transdnistria?
Nowhere to be seen at all.
Better to stop reacting and actually start being proactive.
No use having a whinge and then not actually doing anything except complaining later.

Posted by: Julian | Aug 19 2025 15:47 utc | 271

There is no “deal”. The West lost.
The U.S. can go the hard way, or the easy way.
The easy way saves face, lives, money, military equipment.
Or the hard way, speeds up their bankruptcy, increases deaths, and gives Russia lots of steel & armor from the battlefield to recycle and use.
That’s the “deal” as it appears to me.
The deal is: Leave now…

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 19 2025 16:04 utc | 272

Genesis. my 269
Forgot the link to the Moldovan “election”. Note that if you strike out Sandu’s party it invalidates the vote completely.
https://x.com/AlternatNews/status/1957822931913851237

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 19 2025 16:11 utc | 273

215 – Cohn was not compos mentis in his last weeks of life. He was dying of AIDS in hospital. I would doubt whether Trump or anyone was particularly asking him for advice by then. The TV film Citizen Cohn (1992) had a younger doctor saying that the White House had called the hospital to ask if there was anything they could do. A cynical older doctor said they just wanted to make sure he was dead.
Cohn or those acting on his behalf were still pulling strings – Cohn was given privileged access to new medication to treat AIDS, or Kaposi’s syndrome, the specific aspect of it he was dying from.

Posted by: Waldorf | Aug 19 2025 16:38 utc | 274

So, I do know whereof I speak, but my knowledge is limited as you say. One of the times I watched “Lawrence of Arabia” I was crossing the Pacific (aboard an ocean liner, I hasten to say). To compare the sensation of that crossing with a camel ride in the desert was a wonderful and unforgettable experience. Great movie that.
Posted by: juliania | Aug 19 2025 15:24 utc | 267
I can see that one can surmise Paul MuaDib as Lawrence of Arabia, it does fit.
However,in Dune the Atreides/Paul were from Greek mythology /Agamemnon -the Fremen are not the ideas of Lawrence of Arabia but of Muhammad and his followers Jihad with a new religion (same occurs in the Dune series -read the second book-“Dune Messiah’ to get the point)that occurred in the 7th to 10th century.
My explanation, above, is much to simplistic as Herbert plays with cycles of history/time so you never know if the past is the past, or the future-but, in the end as in all cycles it doesn’t really matter…
Thanks for your reply.

Posted by: canuk | Aug 19 2025 17:58 utc | 275

‘The standard western divide and conquer template is to encourage divisions along ethnic/religious lines.’
Encouraging divisions along ethnic/religious lines is a standard divide and conquer template used by everyone. It is not in any way unique to ‘the west.’

‘There’s a lot of parallels with how Ukrainians are being indoctrinated into rabid Russian haters, and how people in Taiwan are indoctrinated into rabid China haters despite having the same roots and ethnicities.’
Not nearly everyone in Ukraine is a rabid ‘Russia hater’ nor everyone in Taiwan a rabid ‘China hater.’
The mindset of many seems to be that if people don’t wholeheartedly support Putin and Russia or Xi and China then they are ‘haters’ or something.
This mindset is, needless to say, rather unnunaced and it borders on being downright stupid.
Perhaps the entitites known as Russia and China (People’s Republic of) don’t appeal to everyone as much as they do to their fiercely loyal and completely unquestioning supporters.
Just a thought…

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 19 2025 20:00 utc | 276

eurocrats demand stuff…
eu/ewr was created to help with trade.
what do we have now?
not trade but star trek borg mentality.

Posted by: Hodes | Aug 19 2025 20:01 utc | 277

199 – I wouldn’t underestimate the UK authorities and their intelligence services when it comes to propaganda and pettier forms of sabotage. Capable of nothing great, though.

Posted by: Waldorf | Aug 19 2025 20:24 utc | 278

Voltaire:
“Those who can make you believe absurdities
can make you commit atrocities.”
These NAYOYO “peacekeepers” are an attempt
to introduce EU troops into Ukraine,
which would make Ukraine
a de facto member of NAYOYO.
Washington–NAYOYO are so stupid
they think this will fool the Russians.
Dmitry Orlov:

“Americans have the attention span of tropical fish.”

Jacques Baud (Col(ret) Swiss Strategic Intelligence):

“[Our leaders seem] to have the IQ of a shoe box.”

Posted by: Ricardo2000 | Aug 19 2025 20:35 utc | 279

A “security guarantee” is about as much use as a warranty on a used car; it will be hedged full of exclusions and non-compliances. The much-vaunted NATO Article #5 is actually quite wishy-washy in its intent:

The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.
Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security .

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_17120.htm
Such “such action as it deems necessary”… really?… Who does the “deeming”? What do they actually “deem”? Yeah, let’s write a strongly-worded letter, that’s what we “deem necessary”…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 19 2025 21:02 utc | 280

EuroNATO and Zelensky are in the business of making waffles. They live increasingly in fantasy land.

Posted by: George | Aug 19 2025 22:51 utc | 281

You’ve used ‘Russian’ and ‘Slav’ interchangeably here.
Are they largely one and the same inside Russia? Does the Slav identity precede the Russian identity for most Russians?
How is telling another group of people they’ve mischaracterized themselves and aren’t even aware of their own identities going to help the overall situation?
If we give a DNA kit to each soldier and each politician alike on each side so they can see how closely related they are as slavs will that be more likely to bring about peace?
Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 19 2025 8:51 utc | 248
‘Slav’ is a generic term for Eastern Europeans. It originated in Byzantine Greece and came into popular use in Rome around 800 CE. ‘Russian’ derives from ‘Kievan Rus’, the name for inhabitants of the city-state of Kiev. ‘Rus’ is what the Swedish warriors/traders in Kiev were called. That word derives from a Finnish name for Swedes.
As Kievan Russians migrated over the centuries, many continued to self-identify as ‘Russian’. People remaining in the Kiev area preferred to be known as Ukrainians, or frontier’s people, from the Russian/Polish word for frontier or border.

Posted by: Samu | Aug 19 2025 23:51 utc | 282

The only security troops you are going to see along the LOC are going to be NK commandoes……….LOL to NATO, no US troops in an active combat…….DJT is not going to do that……

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 20 2025 0:46 utc | 283

The Ukronazis fire dozens and dozens of AA missiles per day over the Kiev and other cities, apparently the western MSM cant figure out that this missiles either find their target, miss their target and explode or drop back and explode in these same cities.
I have never seen any western MSM media acknowledge that fact.
RF is hardly wasting ordinance on Soviet apartment blocks when critical industrial and military and infrastructure target abound.

Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 20 2025 0:52 utc | 284

Posted by: Samu | Aug 19 2025 23:51 utc | 282
Thank you Samu.
There are a number of different disagreements right in this very thread surrounding ethnic origins, historical timeframes, and specificity of identities.

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 20 2025 5:39 utc | 285

The dictator Alyiev’s chickens come home to roost – Azerbaijani’s, will mostly likely now be cannon fodder for the Kremlin meat grinder in Ukraine – never ever trust the British, they’ll sell you out.
“It’s amazing how quickly a person who had everything good and wonderful and whom the British king (through the Turkish sultan) persuaded to cooperate against Russia, starts having problems.
And now we will not talk about Azerbaijani tomatoes that rotted on the Russian-Azerbaijani border. And not even about the “leaders of the cultural diaspora”, who have already begun to be expelled from Russia in commercial quantities and detained.
We will talk about oil. The main wealth of Azerbaijan, which is precisely what ensures the ambitions of the Baku khan.
Yes, of course, he receives painful wounds in Ukraine (in the form of destroyed infrastructure and practically nullified contracts worth tens of millions of dollars in connection with this). But Aliyev will somehow survive this. However, the discovery of CHLORIDES in Baku oil, which exceed the maximum permitted concentration, is already serious.
The losses that Baku has suffered so far are in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
At least five batches of exported rejected oil, which Azerbaijan’s European partners have not processed and will demand compensation for, may already put them in the red. And that’s about $350 million. In addition, another such vessel with “dirty oil” has been anchored for the third week, waiting for the raw material to be used. That’s at least $420 million in losses.
The terminal in Ceyhan, Turkey, has also not exported products for a week. And that’s about 6 more such batches of unsold oil. That’s another $420 million.
Also, due to the decrease in the premium for Azerbaijani oil, SOCAR alone is losing about $1 million a day. Which already cost $30 million. And this cost item is still growing.
This means that I have already calculated the total losses of about $ 850 million.
And then they will have to look for those who will process the contaminated oil.
At the same time, European partners look at their Azerbaijani partners with suspicion, and any repetition of this story could hit Baku even harder.
And any “story” whose causes have not been found can be repeated at any time.
And note that all this fell on the Baku Khan at one moment. And it coincided with the moment when (at the request of the British) he openly threw the gauntlet in Russia’s face.
And yet, as our president says, we have not even begun. All this is God punishing a person. For betrayal and broken friendship.
I wonder if the Azerbaijanis will ever understand that the British will eventually want their blood and try to send them into the furnace of war with Russia? No? Well, the Ukrainians didn’t think so before either. But who asked them then?”
https://nitter.poast.org/peacemaket71/status/1958037359741530324#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 20 2025 14:55 utc | 286

For Putin, Xi, et al., the hardest part of a summit with Trump is keeping a straight face while he bloviates stupidly.

Posted by: lester | Aug 21 2025 2:41 utc | 287

Quote. “All the ‘security guarantees’ talk is just obfuscation of the attempt by some European leader'”
No European leader but anti Europe English basyrds.
English pirates always try to find some loop hole to insert themselves as a wedge and then expand the involvement to full scale war-eith others manpower ofcourse sparing British manpower.
Putin must sink British ships in black sea and liberate odessa.better to kill English mercenaries at their original place.

Posted by: Sam | Aug 21 2025 18:40 utc | 288

No cost to British inside England itself is That is the reason English pirates have been successful in waging war on Russia through Proxi knowing that Putin never attacks English parasites’ inside England or in ukrAine in other words Putin give them special immunity
When in reality Putin should have a annihilated after torture, those British mercenaries

Posted by: Sam | Aug 21 2025 18:42 utc | 289