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August 23, 2025
Dutch Foreign Minister Resigns Over Gaza

Hats off for Caspar Veldkamp:

Dutch Foreign Minister Caspar Veldkamp resigned Friday evening, after he failed to secure new sanctions against Israel over the war in Gaza.

Veldkamp had informed the country’s Parliament he intended to bring in new measures in response to Israel’s planned offensive in Gaza City and other heavily populated areas but was unable to secure the support of his coalition partners.

The 61-year-old former ambassador to Israel told reporters he felt he was unable “to implement policy myself and chart the course I deem necessary.”

There should be many more like him.

Comments

Finally a Western politician that has actual principles and stand by them

Posted by: canuk | Aug 23 2025 13:46 utc | 1

“The delivery of a submarine to Israel is reportedly imminent. Close German-Israeli arms cooperation dates back to the 1950s and is central to bilateral relations.”
https://www.german-foreign-policy.com/en/news/detail/9696

Posted by: p3t3r | Aug 23 2025 13:49 utc | 2

Peter w/3s:
¿What’s your news/reason for your post?
¿Are you in favour of or against this?
I am against such a heavily armed & homicidal country receiving more wmd!

Posted by: Dfnslblty | Aug 23 2025 14:08 utc | 3

Just a reminder that the Chosenites are also known for malicious behavior as tourists in Asia — and towards Asians within Israel (sexual harassment of Thai women employees, contractually banning Chinese construction workers from relationships with Israeli females, et cetera)…the world really needs to know about the insidious nature of the Chosenites!!

Posted by: CasualObserver | Aug 23 2025 14:12 utc | 4

@Dfnslblty
Of course, I am against it.
The article helps to explain why something like that would never happen in Berlin.

Posted by: p3t3r | Aug 23 2025 14:21 utc | 5

Thanks for the encouraging post b
Yes, I am hoping that this data point is part of a trend towards reigning in the uglier representations of our species.
Give peace a chance.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 23 2025 14:28 utc | 6

Yes, b, there should be many more like him. But there won’t be for a simple reason. In the utterly corrupt West’s Mock Democracies, it’s perfectly legal for politicians to seek “Donations” from Donors with a Wish-List/Dream which requires the help of a grateful politician to fulfil.
And the Donors with the deepest pockets get the sleaziest favours.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 23 2025 14:29 utc | 7

‘There should be many more like him.’ — b
Soon there will be. Meanwhile, it’s just a normal Shabbat in Gaza City:

Israeli strikes and gunfire killed at least 25 Palestinians including people sheltering in tents or seeking scarce food Saturday in Gaza, local hospitals said, as a famine in Gaza’s largest city sparks new pressure on Israel over its 22-month offensive.
Israel’s defense minister has warned that Gaza City could be destroyed in a new military operation perhaps just days away, even as famine spreads there.
Aid groups have long warned that the war, and months of Israeli restrictions on food and medical supplies entering Gaza, are causing starvation.
“>https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-gaza-war-hostages-08-23-2025-7b138340106e247f9da13293ef8cf8e7

This is absolutely medieval. Those who side with the siege-to-the-death zionists can no longer pretend to be human.

Posted by: Jim H | Aug 23 2025 14:29 utc | 8

israel should never have been created by the brits… it is on ongoing frigging nightmare.. is that how they want people to know of israel?
kudos to this man and any others who call this what it is – a genocide…

Posted by: james | Aug 23 2025 14:36 utc | 9

The terminally corrupt West has the best politicians that money can buy.
In Oz, 80% of politicians in Local, State and Federal Govt, are Residential Rental Property “Investors” and enjoy an Exclusive list of Tax Breaks.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 23 2025 14:45 utc | 10

A bizarre dichotomy, to eagerly supply nazis in 404 with weapons and money, but somehow realize that the other type of nazis occupying Palestine are in fact evil.

Posted by: boneless | Aug 23 2025 14:48 utc | 11

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 23 2025 14:45 utc | 10
######
Feudalism never went away, it got better branding.
Today’s pols (and bureaucrats) are yesterday’s barons and dukes.
The Chinese maintain a property system that rejects feudalism and total state control.
I can’t get out of my head, “You will own nothing and you will be happier.”
That was the moment when we should have hung thousands.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2025 14:51 utc | 12

I am happy for Caspar taking a stand but what did he do 6 months ago?
And how does his resignation help the situation?
So many European elites are “seeing the light” just as Israel is collapsing.
For each one, their moves and words would have integrity if they were said 6 months ago.
Now, it all feels like ass-covering and crocodile tears.
Self-preservation.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2025 14:57 utc | 13

” “I was forced to clean up the remains of animals and humans after they were killed, and the soldiers would brag about the number of their dead.”
An American contractor reveals atrocities committed by members of the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation and the Israeli army at aid distribution centers in the Gaza Strip.”
(Media too big, so not watched)
https://t.me/NewsPs0/216512
What are all these little cracks doing, appearing all over the damn ?

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 23 2025 15:01 utc | 14

Is it possible that the “Israelis”, having anointed each other as G-ds, can give each other permission to act like Demons whenever they feel like doing so?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 23 2025 15:02 utc | 15

I would expect this German submarine deal to be scrapped, as did France with the two Mistral ships sold to Russia and never delivered.
But of course, it’s Israel here, no sanctions, no questions, no shame.

Posted by: scc | Aug 23 2025 15:06 utc | 16

What does resignation achieve? It leaves the position open for a supporter of Israeli genocide. Surely that is a bad outcome?

Posted by: Joe | Aug 23 2025 15:12 utc | 17

I can’t get out of my head, “You will own nothing and you will be happier.”
That was the moment when we should have hung thousands.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2025 14:51 utc | 12
Yes, we should have. But we always thought they were talking about somebody else…
The world cannot have peace until Tel Aviv, Washington DC, New York, London, Basel, Brussels, et al are turned to glass. And if Mankind doesn’t find a way to do this, to end the monsters hiding in these cities and preying on the innocent, the Sun will (the micronova is coming; it’s a mathematical certainty.)

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Aug 23 2025 15:13 utc | 18

Posted by: Joe | Aug 23 2025 15:12 utc | 17
It demonstrates that these organizations are fraudulent theater.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 23 2025 15:21 utc | 19

“Feudalism never went away, it got better branding.”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2025 14:51 utc | 12
Your ignorance of Western history is astounding.
Proper Feudalism died following the Great Plague-1348-1351.
Why?
Because with 40-50% of the workforce dead the aristos/landowners had to pay them higher wages (which consisted of then taking more of the crop in most instances) or they couldn’t get their crops harvested or get their animals husbanded. (1)
This led to labour having more rights-one theme is the emergence of the guilds which eventually turned into a middle class.
You need to read and study more than spasmodically posting gibberish.
1. “In the year 1348, the Black Death swept through England killing millions of people. This
tragic occurrence resulted in a diminished workforce, and from this emerged increased wages for
working peasants. In the interests of the upper class, the English Parliament enacted the Statute
of Laborers which set maximum wages, riling the lower classes, fueling the Peasants’ Revolt in
1381. The Black Death left in its wake a period of defiance and turmoil between the upper
classes and the peasantry. The dispute regarding wages led to the peasants’ triumph over the
manorial economic system and ultimately ended in the breakdown of feudalism in England.” (2)
2. https://clas.ucdenver.edu/nhdc/sites/default/files/attached-files/entry_147.pdf

Posted by: canuk | Aug 23 2025 15:26 utc | 20

What are all these little cracks doing, appearing all over the damn ?
Posted by: Ornot | Aug 23 2025 15:01 utc | 14
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People who participated in the genocide trying to create distance from it.
If a “contractor” really felt bad they would have found ways to aid the Gazans. That is what any sane and moral person would do.
Instead, they are lining up their tell-all book deals to make cash.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2025 15:28 utc | 21

Seven EU-nik Eunuchs sitting in a row,
Nothing to offer, were told to go.
Europe is finished, Brussels the final bell,
Sending them all to financial hell.
Hey! Hey! Donald J.,
How many kids starved to death on your say, Today?
For all the promise you have offered for goos,
nothing will be saved from the taint of an ocean of
Palestinian Blood staining your legacy.
Get away from your office now, today
before you create more evil by your stay.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Aug 23 2025 15:30 utc | 22

Jewed-up Oz PM Anthony Albinese has promised to recognise a Palestinian State, and called upon Boofhead Satanyahu to stop the Genocide in Gaza and allow the Palestinians to govern themselves.
But he agrees with his bosses in Tel Aviv that Hamas should be prohibited from participating in any future Palestinian (self)Government.
Mock Democracy? Much?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 23 2025 15:31 utc | 23

Respect. This is taking responsibility. The genocide must stop!

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 23 2025 15:36 utc | 24

What a victory. He sure made a statement, that’ll show them. All government workers with integrity should quit their jobs, n let the corrupt have all the govt jobs./snark

Posted by: Featherless | Aug 23 2025 15:36 utc | 25

I am happy for Caspar taking a stand but what did he do 6 months ago?
And how does his resignation help the situation?
So many European elites are “seeing the light” just as Israel is collapsing.
For each one, their moves and words would have integrity if they were said 6 months ago.
Now, it all feels like ass-covering and crocodile tears.
Self-preservation.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2025 14:57 utc | 13

Exactly this needed to be said.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 23 2025 15:37 utc | 26

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 23 2025 15:31 utc | 24
#######
That’s another deception. Hamas has legitimacy in Gaza. The Zionists want to control Gaza through a stooge (Abbas) as they have done in the West Bank.
They wouldn’t be talking about Hamas if Hamas were losing.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2025 15:40 utc | 27

Glenn Diesen has a new video up with Richard Wolff that I think fits this conversation about how Western capitalism (global private finance) is killing itself over the internal contradictions maintained to fool the public.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p-JOB0T8is
Richard does a good job of describing the contradictions in our world that have been portrayed one way but are really just another example of past organizations of our species.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 23 2025 15:48 utc | 28

Just a reminder that the Chosenites are also known for malicious behavior as tourists in Asia — and towards Asians within Israel (sexual harassment of Thai women employees, contractually banning Chinese construction workers from relationships with Israeli females, et cetera)…the world really needs to know about the insidious nature of the Chosenites!!
Posted by: CasualObserver | Aug 23 2025 14:12 utc | 4
Right. That and the systematic slaughter of half a million women and children in Gaza.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 15:59 utc | 29

This is absolutely medieval. Those who side with the siege-to-the-death zionists can no longer pretend to be human.
Posted by: Jim H | Aug 23 2025 14:29 utc | 8
Youre being too hard on medieval times. This is ancient barbarism fused with modern killing methods or “Nazis part 2: Hitlers perverted step children gone wild ”

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 16:04 utc | 30

@12 Love Donbass
“I can’t get out of my head, “You will own nothing and you will be happier.”
That was the moment when we should have hung thousands.”
Contradicts in recent thread where you suggest state spending should be kept private ? Public money, public accountability, no ?
The alternative is absolute power via state/finance, where the public privately own nothing ?

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 23 2025 16:05 utc | 31

I’m optimistic that when the Iranians have finished licking their wounds and replenishing their missile arsenal, they’ll deliver a message that the Jew Plague will find impossible to ignore/shrug off.
Back in June, Al Jazeera broadcast some footage of the quite severe damage Tel Aviv sustained as a result of Iran’s retalliation for the Plague’s sneak attack on Tehran.
Al Jazeera thoughtfully confirmed that the Plague ran out of defensive missiles AND that every Iranian Hypersonic Missile struck its target.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 23 2025 16:07 utc | 32

The world cannot have peace until Tel Aviv, Washington DC, New York, London, Basel, Brussels, et al are turned to glass. And if Mankind doesn’t find a way to do this, to end the monsters hiding in these cities and preying on the innocent, the Sun will (the micronova is coming; it’s a mathematical certainty.)
Posted by: Nooneuknow | Aug 23 2025 15:13 utc | 18
As a Swiss I’m curious to know why Basel?
Bern is the capital. Zürich the financial city. Geneva has headquarters of some international organisations (WHO, WTO, UNHCR, …). But Basel? Basel has some international known pharma companies but other than that, not much.

Posted by: NoName | Aug 23 2025 16:07 utc | 33

They wouldn’t be talking about Hamas if Hamas were losing.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2025 15:40 utc | 28
Meh.
They use “Hamas” as a cover word for Palestinians in general. It’s just a repeated excuse for the annihilation of all Palestinians. Every Palestinian, every Palestinian supporter, objective reality itself (Caitlyn) is “Hamas”. MOA would certainly be considered a “Hamas” operation by the Zio logic.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 16:13 utc | 34

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 23 2025 16:05 utc | 32
#######
You misunderstood what you thought I suggested.
If you look hard enough for what is not there, you will find it.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2025 16:14 utc | 35

There should be many more like him.
Posted by b on August 23, 2025 at 13:41 UTC | Permalink
But for his position to stand, hope the prime minister only accepts someone even harder on israel
And should coalition partners refuse… bye bye
If dutch people do have a stand then next elections reinforce the current head and punish the rent-a-politician team

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 23 2025 16:19 utc | 36

@26 Featherless
That would be one way, all those who support “Israel” on one side, all those who don’t, on another.
Representation could then be voted, or just brawled out.
Trouble is, pro-zionists have no qualms about mass murder, by whatever means available.
So would want to think twice before getting everyone shot, bombed, infected or whatever.
The idea of believing a nice government with integrity will come along, also seems delusionary. A ‘moderate one’ might be ‘allowed eventually’ … just as long as it smooths away past errors.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 23 2025 16:19 utc | 37

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2025 14:57 utc | 13
All true, but the race to the life boats also is s sure sign that Israel will soon be Wasrael.
Hopefully soon enough to salvage the Palestinian people.

Posted by: Mary | Aug 23 2025 16:25 utc | 38

@CasualObserver | Aug 23 2025 14:12 utc |
Problem is the ‘Chosenites’ are rewarded by the anglosaxon imperialist for acting in this manner. It is a wanted feature. How do you control banking when the multipolar ‘threat’ grows?
Answer you make sure the jews are universally hated!
How do you get a business-oriented people to deliberately dirty themselves?
You know the answer.
No matter how much anglosaxon grassroots like to interpret it differently, what I stated is the simplest and most logical explanation.
It also explains why Britain during roughly a century encouraged Nazism to emerge and likewise encouraged a wellknown conspiracy theory about a certain protocol.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 23 2025 16:25 utc | 39

@36 LoveDonbass
I understood what I thought you suggested, but might have misunderstood what you were suggesting .
So I will go and look again at the comment, which must still be there, and maybe if I look hard enough, my previous interpretation might disappear….
Will pick up the conversation on next open thread, though.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 23 2025 16:30 utc | 40

Indeed that was encouraging news.
Regrettably the majority of the criminals occupying the States General voted against the motion.
From Dutch News dot nl:
MPs vote not to take steps against Israel or recognise Palestine
Dutch MPs have voted not to take further steps to put pressure on Israel in the wake of the departure of foreign affairs minister Caspar Veldkamp and his eight NSC cabinet colleagues on Friday evening.
In a debate delayed by the walkout of NSC ministers, a majority of MPs rejected a series of proposed measures, including boycotting of products from the illegally occupied West Bank, and a ban on the purchase of weapons from Israel.
A motion to recognise the Palestinian state also failed to gain a majority.
Caretaker defence minister Ruben Brekelmans, who led the debate in Veldkamp’s absence, said a ban on Israeli weapons would affect Dutch operational readiness. Brekelmans said he would bring up a boycott as part of possible European measures.
The only parliamentary consensus involved the “total destruction” of Hamas. Countries that “condone” Hamas leaders should be put “under maximum pressure,” a majority of MPs said.

Plus ca change, eh.
In any case, thanks for posting B

Posted by: Amsterjam | Aug 23 2025 16:30 utc | 41

RT: “Now, it all feels like ass-covering and crocodile tears.”
“Self-preservation.”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2025 14:57 utc | 13
If it were a single person, certainly could make that case, or that he was in truth, “forced” out, however:
“Following Veldkamp’s resignation, the remaining Cabinet **members of his center-right New Social Contract party also quit, ***leaving the Dutch government in disarray.
“In short we are done with it,” party leader Eddy Van Hijum said, calling the Israeli government’s actions “diametrically opposed to international treaties.”
Entire parties tend to fester and create/morph/ enlarge to something else when not heard.
It’s worth watching…

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 23 2025 16:34 utc | 42

I am surprised that no one has been able ‘yet‘ to penetrate the Zionist cabinet.

Posted by: pepe | Aug 23 2025 16:39 utc | 43

RE: “All true, but the race to the life boats also is s sure sign that Israel will soon be Wasreal”.
Hopefully soon enough to salvage the Palestinian people.
Posted by: Mary | Aug 23 2025 16:25 utc | 39
Nice..
**Wasrael.” 😂🍻

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 23 2025 16:42 utc | 44

Caspar Veldkamp was thwarted mainly by members of his own party NSC, one of the two newer pseudo-populist parties (not counting Geert Wilders’ PVV) that entered the now already-failed Dutch coalition. With trust in the established parties at an all time low, pseudo-populism seems the only way forward, with any flavour acceptable to join a coalition as long as it complies with the current course that is pro-Zionist, pro-NATO and pro-globalist.
The current government having already fallen, it is in so-called “caretaker mode” awaiting new elections, which is now so common in the Netherlands that it seems the preferred default mode for the de facto civil service run technocratic state.

Posted by: Han Brinker | Aug 23 2025 16:42 utc | 45

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 23 2025 16:34 utc | 43
######
As Lavrov said, by the time they do anything, there will be nothing left to save.
Why didn’t all of these people speak out last year? Why didn’t Tucker and Candace say something in 2024?
There is one very brave brunette Spanish MP who has been speaking out for ages. No one ever credits her.
The rest of Europe? Impotent and cowardly if not complicit. It’s like American pols; if anyone ever speaks out, it won’t be until it is safe.
Courage shows up when things are dangerous, not after the bad guys have fled.
I don’t believe in coincidences.
Narratives are constantly being woven and amended. The enemy thinks generationally, and they have trained us to think in news cycles.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2025 16:42 utc | 46

The resignation of Veldkamp is not earth shattering because the current dutch coalition has fallen in the recent past. There will be new elections later this year.

Posted by: WMG | Aug 23 2025 16:53 utc | 47

Caspar Veldkamp for two years procrastinated over even token measures against the Gaza genocide. Even while hundreds of thousands of people in the small country of the Netherlands protested and demanded measures. Even scores of his own civil servants at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs protest weekly and warn that not taking action might make the Netherlands complicit in genocide. Finally the pressure became to much, despite the right wing zionist majority in the Dutch Parliament. So while Veldkamp might be better then the remaining pro genocide ministers, we should rather condemn him for waiting so long then praise him for giving way.

Posted by: Ronald | Aug 23 2025 16:53 utc | 48

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2025 16:42 utc | 47
>>>
My understanding is that she’s a new rising star in Spanish politics from Catalunya.
And she’s not a Sephardic Jew as far as I recall.
You can tell the difference as they often name children after grandparents, a practice differing from Ashkenazic naming conventions.

Posted by: pepe | Aug 23 2025 16:58 utc | 49

Canuk 20,
Why bother? As my father said about such attempts to educate the willfully ignorant; “..it’s but pearls before swine
There are none so blind as those spoiled children who were granted a life of leisure; never forced to grow-up, they arrive at old age with bitterness having never had to overcome adversity to achieve a goal, they feel unfulfilled…empty…angry…feeling the world is indebted to them.

Posted by: S Brennan | Aug 23 2025 17:05 utc | 50

@CasualObserver | Aug 23 2025 14:12 utc |
Problem is the ‘Chosenites’ are rewarded by the anglosaxon imperialist for acting in this manner. It is a wanted feature. How do you control banking when the multipolar ‘threat’ grows?
Answer you make sure the jews are universally hated!
How do you get a business-oriented people to deliberately dirty themselves?
You know the answer.
No matter how much anglosaxon grassroots like to interpret it differently, what I stated is the simplest and most logical explanation.
It also explains why Britain during roughly a century encouraged Nazism to emerge and likewise encouraged a wellknown conspiracy theory about a certain protocol.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 23 2025 16:25 utc | 40
Do the Israelis themselves have no agency? Frankly, I tire of comments suggesting they are mere puppets of the Western ruling class, when it’s plain to see their tremendous influence and control over these same governments. And really their shitty conduct stems from their own racial supremacism. They don’t need encouragement. They get it, but they certainly don’t need it.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 17:05 utc | 51

@pepe | Aug 23 2025 16:39 utc | 44
When yo say penetrate the Zionist Cabinet,
Do you mean infiltrate Israels government?
I imagine Israel has lots of support from MI6…CIA
when it concerns Israels preservation.
So whoever would penetrate/infiltrate it would have to act without the imperial intel noticing

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 23 2025 17:07 utc | 52

Caspar Veldkamp for two years procrastinated over even token measures against the Gaza genocide. Even while hundreds of thousands of people in the small country of the Netherlands protested and demanded measures. Even scores of his own civil servants at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs protest weekly and warn that not taking action might make the Netherlands complicit in genocide. Finally the pressure became to much, despite the right wing zionist majority in the Dutch Parliament. So while Veldkamp might be better then the remaining pro genocide ministers, we should rather condemn him for waiting so long then praise him for giving way.
Posted by: Ronald | Aug 23 2025 16:53 utc | 49
Agreed, he’s no hero, but certainly is deserving of our critical support. At the very least, his move brings attention to the overwhelming and insane Zionism of every Western government. That’s worth something.
People change, especially in radicalizing periods like ours. They should be encouraged when that change is toward a recognition of the material reality of Israeli genocide and Imperialism.
Brian Bertelic was once an Imperialist soldier.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 17:11 utc | 53

As a Swiss I’m curious to know why Basel?
Bern is the capital. Zürich the financial city. Geneva has headquarters of some international organisations (WHO, WTO, UNHCR, …). But Basel? Basel has some international known pharma companies but other than that, not much.
Posted by: NoName | Aug 23 2025 16:07 utc | 34
And the BIS? The Bank for International Settlements? I thought they headquartered in Basel. My bad, if I am wrong. Also too tired right now to Google. Again, my apologies if I am wrong.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Aug 23 2025 17:15 utc | 54

The Dutch government already blew up and as such this “Minister” is outgoing.
So its easy to resign if you’re already on the way out.
Strangely the Dutch government always gets more work done when they are outgoing and no longer accountable than if they actually govern. Just take a dive into what Mark Rutte’s cabinet did during his outgoing period.
Democracy at work for sure.

Posted by: One Off | Aug 23 2025 17:17 utc | 55

@Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 17:05 utc | 52
Israel wouldnt remain in one piece unless they were constantly supported. The obnoxious behaviour is a feature of many of the cults brought forth from Britains universities albeit omitted in historical accounts.
If they were not obnoxious and managed to be liked they would be less rewarded. The imperialists would not explain that but the insiders in Israel would know.
The purpose is to maintain such entities in isolation making it impossible for them to be a wanted partner,
without the imperialists approval.
Israel does not base its existence on blackmail.
They do blackmail but do so with protection from the imperialists as long as they pick their targets ‘responsibly’. Its a beachhead for the empire. There is too much at stake to risk losing it.
Without Israel and the other cults provided by the empire there probably would have emerged a panarabic + Persia union and trade zone building prosperity.
To cite somebody who knows about the genocidal British empire:
“Britain has a long record of its several attempts to conceal history and rewrite it in their own favor. The pages are filled with conspiracies that were covered up by the British government to hide its involvement in different episodes that would tarnish the country’s image.”
This is part of the text about the British genocide of 8-10 million iranians in 1917-19 based on american records.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 23 2025 17:34 utc | 56

34
why innocent
basil basil
basel
the home of satan
B I S BANK
set up by hitlers banker
basel
The First Zionist Congress was the inaugural congress of the Zionist Organization (ZO) held in the Stadtcasino Basel in the city of Basel on August 29–31, 1897. Two hundred and eight delegates from 17 countries and 26 press correspondents attended the event. It was convened and chaired by Theodor Herzl,

Posted by: normal wisdom | Aug 23 2025 17:50 utc | 57

Without Israel and the other cults provided by the empire there probably would have emerged a panarabic + Persia union and trade zone building prosperity.
To cite somebody who knows about the genocidal British empire:
“Britain has a long record of its several attempts to conceal history and rewrite it in their own favor. The pages are filled with conspiracies that were covered up by the British government to hide its involvement in different episodes that would tarnish the country’s image.”
This is part of the text about the British genocide of 8-10 million iranians in 1917-19 based on american records.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 23 2025 17:34 utc | 57
Itd hard to accept the idea that Israel is merely one of many “cults” created by Imperialism. They would have no success without Imperialist backing, but this cult formed itself and has totally infiltrated every Western government. So much so, it’s very difficult to tell who is managing who. This cult has an ancient history (dating to a time when Britain was a collection of hunter/gatherers!) of racial supremacism and quiet hatred for all outsiders.
You are not wrong in most of your posts, but again I am tiring of the idea that the Zionazis are just another puppet regime like Kiev. They’re not.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 17:52 utc | 58

Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 17:05 utc | 52
*** Do the Israelis themselves have no agency? Frankly, I tire of comments suggesting they are mere puppets of the Western ruling class, when it’s plain to see their tremendous influence and control over these same governments. And really their shitty conduct stems from their own racial supremacism. They don’t need encouragement. They get it, but they certainly don’t need it.***
Quite so, and the fact often missed by those suggesting “the Jews” have just operated as Establishment puppets is that the rabidly ethnocentric Jews operate when posible via their manipulation of proxies. Any dispute between Jewish factions can thus be run with minimised Jewish casualties — so only sub-human non-Jews pay the price.
Likewise, if what a Jew or faction of Jews has done becomes unpopular/unfashionable, the prime inflictors of such unpopular action magically become whatever their passports of convenience said, rather than “Jews” (see for instance, some of the more extreme non-Russian Bolsheviks in Western narratives).
In Britain it is Jews in influential positions that were most keen on unlimited immigration and making laws against public dissent over that. In doing so, not necessarily announcing they were Jews … pretty obvious that they reckoned they could use recent immigrants against the native population. Yet these very same “multi-culti” and “colour-blindness” pimping top Jews actually tend (like many of the non-powerful Jews) to especially despise coloured people, and fervently support Isaeli racism / Jewish exclusivism in all its aspects.
So it is clear that the loyalty is to Israel (nationality which must not be diluted) rather than Britain (mere animals the identity of which should be diluted and fragmented so they are less likely to rebel).
Now the mess is at so advanced a stage that, having one way or another done away with any genuine alternatives (whether good or bad is immaterial) the Zionist owned Establishment only faces protests against mass-immigration via Zionist-fronts (see for instance the “EDL” complete with Zionist/Israeli flags and ideology).

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 23 2025 17:57 utc | 59

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 16:04 utc | 31
Way too hard on the Middle Ages. It’s old school Old Testament.

And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city.- Deuteronomy 3:6 KJV

Not sure if this next link will work. It’s from a website whatreallyhappened.
examples of hatespeech against Palestinians

Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 23 2025 17:58 utc | 60

First Zionist Congress was the inaugural congress of the Zionist Organization (ZO) held in the Stadtcasino Basel in the city of Basel on August 29–31, 1897.
ww1
ww2
the palestine question
protocols
the talking points the minutes of much of this earth shattering 1897 event can be read in a work titled something something something elders of zion
oded yinon is a big idea init

Posted by: normal wisdom | Aug 23 2025 17:58 utc | 61

There is a potential ray of hope that the Genocide could halt soon. abc.net.au broadcasts a weekday program called Afternoon Briefing. It’s hosted by an experienced Journo called Patricia Kavelas. And she does NOT steer clear of controversial issues..
Approx Wednesday last week she took a video call from a youngish Israeli woman who launched a scathing attack on Netanyahu.
According to her, there are circa 400,000 Jews protesting against Netanyahu’s Gaza Policy. They want the “war” on Gaza to end, and believe that Nutty is only persisting with it to avoid standing trial for the Formal Charges of corruption against him.
She and her fellow protesters believe that he is by far the worst leader Israel has ever had to endure.
Leaving aside the Hollywood factor, she came across as very sincere; and 400,000 is a BIG protest in a pissant fake country like Israel…

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 23 2025 18:02 utc | 62

@ Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 23 2025 18:02 utc | 63
Nah, they just want their precious “hostages” returned. Otherwise they’re down with the genocide of the land’s rightful inhabitants.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 23 2025 18:08 utc | 63

“Why is there no solidarity eith Palestinians in Egypt? It is judt a huge Arab country on the birder if Gaza.
Posted by: vargas | Aug 23 2025 15:26 utc | 21”
Because Arabs are not just Arabs, any more than Slavs are Slavs, Teutons are Teutons, etc. Egyptians and Palestinians speak related languages, but otherwise have very different histories. Although I would that lots of grassroots Egyptians are not indifferent to the massacre of the Palestininans at all.

Posted by: lester | Aug 23 2025 18:11 utc | 64

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 23 2025 18:08 utc | 64
yeah i think it is more a dispute over who should be carrying out the gcide, Bibi or some other zionazi.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 23 2025 18:12 utc | 65

yeah i think it is more a dispute over who should be carrying out the gcide, Bibi or some other zionazi.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 23 2025 18:12 utc | 66
_______
Bingo!

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 23 2025 18:15 utc | 66

And the BIS? The Bank for International Settlements? I thought they headquartered in Basel. My bad, if I am wrong. Also too tired right now to Google. Again, my apologies if I am wrong.
Posted by: Nooneuknow | Aug 23 2025 17:15 utc | 55
No, you’re right. But I didn’t know that because of that they deserve to get nuked 😉
To be honest, I don’t know anything about this bank.

Posted by: NoName | Aug 23 2025 18:17 utc | 67

I posted this on the last thread, but it fits here.
Now the confessions start, inevitably paired with excuses. “We knew X was happening, but we couldn’t say it out loud because of Y situation.” These are scumbags who want to be exonerated of blame, post ipso facto, although at the time the truth could have made a difference.
First out of the gate is Matthew Miller, the spokesperson for the State Dept under Biden. He confesses to lying to the journalists and the public about numerous details, including knowling the Netanyahu was repeatedly tanking the negotiations deliberately, knowing that the Israelis intended to invade and destroy Rafah all along, knowing that the Israelis intended to continue the bombing of Gaza for decades if necessary, etc. Each instance followed by a “but we had to handle it this way because…”
Matthew Miller, who smirked each time he made some outrageous claim to the press, because he found the whole thing just too amusing.
Lying weasel-breath obsequious Zionist toady. These people should not be forgiven for their roles in the genocide.
I’m not going to quote from the article, but if you want to know what the US State Dept actually knew under Biden, here is a link to the article:
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250823-ex-us-official-says-washington-knew-israel-intended-gaza-war-to-last-for-decades-without-plan/

Posted by: teri | Aug 23 2025 18:25 utc | 68

@ Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 23 2025 18:02 utc | 63
Nah, they just want their precious “hostages” returned. Otherwise they’re down with the genocide of the land’s rightful inhabitants.
Posted by: malenkov | Aug 23 2025 18:08 utc | 64
Correct. Zio lives are all that matter to Zios.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 18:33 utc | 69

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 16:04 utc | 31
Way too hard on the Middle Ages. It’s old school Old Testament.
And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city.- Deuteronomy 3:6 KJV
Not sure if this next link will work. It’s from a website whatreallyhappened.
examples of hatespeech against Palestinians
Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 23 2025 17:58 utc | 61
For my money, I think the scholarly work of Kevin McDonald is the best primer on the Zios ancient supremacism. The guy was of course attacked, very effectively, as an anti semite but if you read it it’s really just an objective anthropological study. The guy is completely vindicated. Way ahead of his time.
“A People That Shall Dwell Alone” is the title of a book by Kevin MacDonald, published in 1994, that presents Judaism as a “group evolutionary strategy” from an evolutionary psychology perspective. MacDonald’s theories, detailed in this book and his later works, are controversial and widely regarded as antisemitic pseudoscience by academic and journalistic reviews, which dismiss them as conspiracy-based and lacking empirical support.”
Says Google’s Zio trained AI…

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 18:39 utc | 70

I’ve wondered for several years how the Palestinians have survived given the fact that Israel controls all their money. Israel handles the pay system in Palestine and has, for years before this latest onslaught, denied the Palestinians some (and since about two years before Oct 7, ALL) their pay. Last year, the IDF looted the main banks in the Strip, stealing millions and shutting down the ATMs.
The system of Israel collecting the paychecks of the Palestinians and doling it out – or withholding it as punishment – has been going on since the Nakba. What country can exist without the ability to control its own cash?
When Israel “allows” aid to go to the for-profit merchants in Palestine, the people have to come up with cash or valuables to pay for the food or tent or medicine, etc. But who among them has cash?
I just found this article by chance this morning that covers this overlooked issue. Imagine that you might be able to buy a loaf of bread, but your money is so worn out it is no longer more than a mere scrap of tissue that the merchants won’t accept. Imagine that you are owed thousands in back pay, but the Israelis won’t credit your account, and in any case the banks have been blown up and the electriciry is out, so the ATMs don’t work.

This is what happens when money dies
Israel has blocked the transfer of currency into Gaza; the result is catastrophic.
You try to buy a kilo of flour in Gaza.
You open your wallet; what’s inside?  A faded 10-shekel note, barely held together by a strip of tape. No one wants it; it is all rubbish now.
The 10-shekel note, normally worth about $3, was once the most commonly used bill in daily life. Now, it is no longer in circulation. Not officially—only practically. It has been worn out beyond recognition. Sellers will not accept it. Buyers cannot use it.
There is no fresh cash. No replenishment.
Other banknotes are following the fate of the 10 shekels, especially the smaller ones.
If you pay with a 100-shekel note for an 80-shekel purchase, the seller will likely be unable to return the remaining 20 due to the poor physical state of the banknotes.
Many notes are torn or taped together, and entire stalls now exist just to repair damaged currency so it can be used again. Anything is better than nothing.
But the disintegration of banknotes is not the only problem we have in Gaza.
Civil servants have gone months without pay. NGOs are unable to transfer salaries to their employees. Families cannot send remittances. What once supported Gaza’s financial structure has vanished. There is no mention of when it will return. Just silence.
Money is stuck. Trapped behind closed systems and political barriers.
If you manage to obtain money from outside sources — perhaps from a cousin in Ramallah or a sibling in Egypt — it comes at a cost. A brutal one. If you get sent 1,000 shekels ($300), the agent will hand you 500. That’s right, the commission rate on cash withdrawals in Gaza is now 50 percent.
There are no banks to offer such withdrawals or oversee transfers.
The signs are still there. Bank of Palestine. Cairo Amman Bank. Al Quds Bank. But the doors are shut, the windows are dusty, and the inside is empty. No ATMs work.
There are only brokers, some with connections to the black market and smugglers, who are somehow able to obtain cash. They take huge cuts to dispense it, in exchange for a bank transfer to their accounts.
Every withdrawal feels like theft disguised as a transaction. Even so, people continue to use this system. They have no choice.
Do you have a bank card? Great. Try using it?
There is no power. There’s no internet. No POS machines. When you show your card to a seller, they shake their head.
People print screenshots of account balances that they cannot access. Some walk around with expired bank documents, hoping someone will think they’re “good enough” as a pay guarantee.
Nobody does.
There are a few sellers who accept so-called “digital wallets”, but those are few, and so are people who have them.
In Gaza today, money you can’t touch is equivalent to no money at all.
And so people have to resort to other means.
At the market, I saw a woman standing with a plastic bag of sugar. Another was holding a bottle of cooking oil. They did not speak much. I just nodded. Traded. Left.
This is what “shopping” in Gaza looks like right now.  Trade what you’ve got. A kilo of lentils for two kilos of flour. A bottle of bleach for some rice. A baby’s jacket for several onions.
There is no stability. One day, your item will be worth something. The next day, nobody wants it. Prices are guesses. Value is emotional. Everything is negotiable.
“I traded my coat for a bag of diapers,” my uncle Waleed, a father of twins, told me. “He looked at me as if I were a beggar. I felt like I was giving up a part of my life.”
This is not a throwback to simpler times. This is what happens when systems disappear. When money dies. When families are forced to sacrifice dignity for survival.
People don’t just suffer—they shrink. They lower their expectations. They stop dreaming. They stop planning. What future can you plan when you can’t afford tomorrow?
“I sold my gold bracelet,” Lina, my neighbour by tent, told me. “It was for emergencies. But now, every day is an emergency.”
Gaza’s economy did not collapse due to bad policy or internal mismanagement. It was broken on purpose.
The occupation has not just blocked goods entering Gaza; it has also blocked currency and with it, any sense of financial control. It has destroyed the banking system. It has made liquidity a weapon.
Cutting off Gaza’s money is part of a larger siege. There is no need to fire a bullet to destroy a people. Simply deny them the ability to live.
You can’t pay for bread, for water, for medicine, so how do you sustain life?
If this trend continues, Gaza will be the first modern society to completely return to barter. There are no salaries. There is no official market. Only personal trades and informal deals. And even those will not last forever. Because what happens when there is nothing left to trade?
If this isn’t addressed, Gaza will be more than just a siege zone. It will be a place where the concepts of money, economy, and fairness will die forever.
“>https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2025/8/23/this-is-what-happens-when-money-dies

Posted by: teri | Aug 23 2025 18:44 utc | 71

@40 peter
Are we to think that the person who makes the ultimate decision is all powerful ?
If so the world would be ordered by their command.
The trees would fruit continuously, the people smile happily and the ruler would be praised and reverred.
Instead people starve, the world is filled with hate, and any ruler is discredited and mocked.
Anglo empire no exception at all.
Those who assume position are given the final decision, their position depends on it. That alone illustrates how position is corrupt.
Those who manipulate, offer position, they decide without ever making the decisions.
Which is why logical deduction based on visible evidence can be misleading, or uncertain.
In British history, the ability to wage war or conquest was often dependent on funding by banks. There was no central government bank previously, and so the means often had to be borrowed. Repayment was based on success, which would therefore tend attitudes towards ruthlessness.
That is a complicity, and who was the more obliged, which the more corrupting, is open to interpretation.
For example, it could be said that the ‘Chosenites’ rewarded the British (Anglo Saxons of) for granting them land. It could be said that now they reward the US (a faction of) with contracts, realty, a form of regional hegemony.
Bluntly, is anyone making the “Israelis” act as they are ? If they had any moral standing, they could, are free to, leave. Then we might see the Anglo Saxons appear and take over the territory, or the french or Russians or Turks, who is to say…but that is not where it is at at present.
So while accepting Anglo complicity, without denying colonial realities and without excusing, I cannot pin Anglo as ultimately responsible.
Domestic control of banking by western countries is already long engraved, with the move towards Keynesian, MMT, and state subsidy of economy, ultimately CBDC.
There is no competition at domestic level, the laws and structure are writ.
The control of international banming or global finance is not based on those however, though the effect of those may be harmonised between countries, in various ways. International ‘money’ is territory, commodities, security, energy, manpower, credible organisation, population influence ability, arms.
The Anglos are not threatened by international banking, like others they are competing in a world of finite resources for ownership of those just mentioned. They are needful of those, the credibility that goes with ownership or control of those, to maintain their own prosperity. That way, they are also credible to the world of international banking and finance.
A zionist might offer to an Anglo:
Provide us with land, we will provide you with a base.
Provide us arms and we will provide you with a reason to increase your military hegemony.
Provide us with political cover and we will provide you with access to resources.
Provide us with propaganda, and we will refuse the influence of competitors.
Provide us funding and we will favour your financial system.
Or else, there are others interested.
But, all the same, the “Israelis” are free to not commit genocide, to leave. They are not forced to occupy Palestine, not by Anglos or anyone else.
And so it is their choice, and the countries that provide support to that, are first in line. As countries, under the existing system of recognition of responsibility.
The complicity is obvious, the responsibilities also. If Anglo supplies “Israeli” while they commit genocide, Anglo is partner in that.
What is Anglo though, now ?
Sort of a mythical insinuation like “Israel” or EU ?
So why deflect from those that are present, active and visible, and supposedly accountable:
US government, UK establishment, German bundestag , or Duch parliament etc. ?
And why try to shield the group actually physically, in person, commiting the crimes ?
In practical terms, that makes little sense to me.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 23 2025 18:52 utc | 72

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 23 2025 18:52 utc | 73
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If your comments were more succinct, they would be easier to reply to.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2025 19:15 utc | 73

“In British history, the ability to wage war or conquest was often dependent on funding by banks.”
Posted by: Ornot | Aug 23 2025 18:52 utc | 73
Absolutely.
The banks control the politicians-the ‘Messenger Boys’.
The Bank of England was founded in 1694 by William and Mary . 1.2 million in gold sterling was lent to the Crown and the paper pound was formed. The investors who lent the money were Jewish bankers and the aristocrats including the Lord Marlborough.
In 1757 Sir Robert Clive of the East India Company plundered India after the Battle of Plassey taking most of the stolen gold, pearls, silver et al to the British Crown with the majority of the loot going to the City of London banks. Now the City was unstoppable although Napoleon came close to bring them down.
City of London is still running things in the West indirectly-don’t believe me watch Alex Krainer on the subject.
The scary thing is the the City is being tested again with the different conflicts both militarily, economical and morally; if they begin to think they are going to lose the nukes will be loosed.

Posted by: canuk | Aug 23 2025 19:16 utc | 74

Dutch Government In Shambles, Split Over Israel
Mark Rutte’s Liberal Conservative party VVD, now led by Dilan Yesilgöz – a Likud puppet – is running the party into the ground dropping in the polls to some 20 seats and in 4th place. After Wilders’ PVV, Labour-Greens combination and Christian Democrats.
Earlier Wilders quit after fake criticism migrants policy calling for new elections. Dutch caretaker cabinet of PM Schoof split further today with a second party of FM Veldkamp (NSC) concerning policy vs Gaza genocide and Israel. Two hardliner parties liberal conservatives of Likud fan Dilan Yesilgöz (VVD) and the far-right one issue party of farmers, Caroline van der Plas (BBB), refused to follow other European nations in criticism of Israel. FM Veldkamp realized he could not make a realistic and credible policy towards the Middle East and resigned. All ministers and deputies of the NRC party agreed and also resigned from this incredulous caretaker cabinet. Never, ever was the political chaos complete in the Netherlands.

      Bibi and Geert could be holding hands … Al Quds Day in Jerusalem
      Netanyahu HATE Speech ’Mein Kampf’ | 30 May 2025 |

    I’m glad there are still some politicians with courage in The Hague. The masses of pro-Palestine protest in recent months has made a difference.
    Now the rump cabinet of premier Schoof is led by the VVD of Yesilgöz (polls at 16-22 seats) and the one-issue farmers party of BBB left in recent polls at 3 seats. Both are far-right leaders following the line of Germany and EU Commission president Ursula Von der Leyen. The Christian Democrats were wiped out 2 years ago, climbing back to 23 seats.
    Dutch parliament holds 150 members, so the caretaker “cabinet” is fully non-sensical until a new cabinet is formed after the elections on 29 October. Could take as long as 12 months before a legitimate government is formed. Total BS politics in The Hague.
    The Dutch are sweet on coalitions of three/four parties and fully documented policy agreements.

    Posted by: Oui | Aug 23 2025 19:24 utc | 75

    “this cult formed itself and has totally infiltrated every Western government.”
    @Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 17:52 utc |
    No it didnt (even though some Israelies have erroneously claimed that) and the Christian Zionists were the ones who told Herzl about zionism before he became one.
    The Larouche associates long ago said the British universities were cult factories producing tens of cults Christian and Zionist (in the 19th century they must have meant)
    But even the Sabbatean cult from the 17th century had that kind of background. It’s purpose was to support the EIC’s trade route with a node in Smyrna
    Since my comment vanished before I keep it short like this

    Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 23 2025 20:09 utc | 76

    https://x.com/UnitedByIK/status/1959027087869665768
    Fearless @UnitedByIK
    When rulers weave famine like a garment and drape it over the poor, when empires engineer hunger as a weapon, when war becomes the only language they speak then there is only one cure left: the awakening of the people. Not the scattered cry of one land, but the unified roar of all lands.
    So long as nations kneel before their decision-makers, so long as people accept divisions of race, creed, flag and border, they remain cattle for slaughter, fuel for wars, soft targets for headlines that never arrive. These famines are not accidents of nature they are crafted conspiracies, minted in the war rooms of Washington, Tel Aviv, London, Berlin, Paris. They fatten their treasuries with the bones of the hungry, they build their empires upon the silence of the weak.
    The only solution is unity stronger than their bombs, solidarity sharper than their lies, resistance that does not end at borders. Until the world’s people tear down the invisible fences that divide them, the same script of chaos, instability, tyranny and oppression will play again and again Gaza today, another city tomorrow.
    Either the masses unite into one unbreakable wall, or they remain scattered stones kicked around by empires. There is no third path.
    https://x.com/georgegalloway/status/1959040655553871940
    George Galloway @georgegalloway
    Magnificent

    Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 23 2025 20:22 utc | 77

    Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 23 2025 17:07 utc | 53
    >>>
    You may be right but do not underestimate the power of those who look the other way and who could bring the collapse of the political system in Israel.

    Posted by: pepe | Aug 23 2025 20:40 utc | 78

    “… there probably would have emerged a panarabic + Persia union and trade zone building prosperity. Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 23 2025 17:34 utc | 57”
    Something not too different from the Ottoman Empire?

    Posted by: lester | Aug 23 2025 20:43 utc | 79

    see the photo at the first link. “May God damn them all to eternal torment.”
    see the 31-second video at the third link. israelis and their supremacist settlers/invaders of the Occupied Territories/Palestine are demons from Hell
    https://x.com/georgegalloway/status/1959019812086272387
    George Galloway @georgegalloway
    A biblical famine now stalks the Holy Land. Man-made, by Israel, the US, the UK, France, Germany and most of the western-world. Its handmaidens were the vast majority of the broadcasters and journalists of the west. May God damn them all to eternal torment. #Gaza
    https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1959248264957419606
    Quds News Network @QudsNen
    The Israeli occupation army continues its wide-scale offensive in the village of Al-Mughayir, northeast of Ramallah, for the third day in a row.
    The raid has included mass abductions, raids on homes, and property thefts, including thefts of cash, jewelry and vehicles.
    https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1958973066895401029
    Middle East Observer @ME_Observer_
    ⚡️⭕️ Foreign Israeli Occupation Settlers tamper with water wells by entering in them livestock in the town of Sa’ir, north of Hebron.

    Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 23 2025 20:46 utc | 80

    @ Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 23 2025 15:02 utc | 15
    It’s not exclusive to the Israelis, or even Abrahamic faiths in general. Maybe Buddhist theocracies don’t act like this, but the behavior of Buddhists in South Asia to Muslims and Tamils suggests that even a peace-preaching faith can be perverted to ethno-nationalist ends. “God told me to” is a great way to win over the pious to a secular cause like war, or to any kind of oppression of a minority. Look at Mike Johnson and how he wields his “faith” against sexual minorities in the US, using state power to make life needlessly hard for people who don’t fit his image.
    But the Israeli version of the Jewish faith, which seems to be alien to much of the diaspora, is wrought up also in blood-thirsty twentieth century ethno-nationalism. It is not the Judaism of Maimonedes. It’s not even the Judaism of Mel Brooks.
    Anyways, in a scene you can imagine happening in a Mel Brooks film, an IDF “infantry officer” (they sure have a lot of officers in the IDF) accidentally blew himself up with explosives today.

    Posted by: fnord | Aug 23 2025 20:48 utc | 81

    “This is absolutely medieval. Those who side with the siege-to-the-death zionists can no longer pretend to be human.
    Posted by: Jim H | Aug 23 2025 14:29 utc | 8”
    Actually, ancient/medieval conquerors usually turned their conquests into serfs/slaves and lived off their their fruits of their work. Genocides were rare before the Industrian Revolution/the abolition on slavery.

    Posted by: lester | Aug 23 2025 20:49 utc | 82

    Let’s hold our horses shall we.
    Veldkamp was member of an uneasy right wing coalition with BBB (farmers party headed by Van der Plas), VVD (NATO secretary’s Mark Rotten party, I mean Rutte) and PVV (far right Zionazi lovers) headed by Wilders who himself (much like Hitler who was 1/4 jew) is “genetically” half Indonesian but to prove his “Dutchness” bleaches his hair and spits racist garbage whenever he can. The only sane part of that right wing coalition was NSC which was largely an off shoot of the Christian party (CDA). PVV had left the coalition 2 months ago (just like Wilders did with an earlier coalition headed by Mark Rotten a decade ago) whereby the remaining members no longer had a majority in parliament.
    My gut tells me this move wasn’t really inspired out of compassion for the victims of the ongoing Gaza Holocaust but to score some moral points for an upcoming election that will be necessary given the current coalition no longer functioned. Dutch politicians, regardless of the political family (left to right), have always protected Zionist genocide, much like the British and the United States.

    Posted by: xor | Aug 23 2025 20:59 utc | 83

    This needs to be more widely known.
    PROOF THAT WW1 WAS FOUGHT TO STEAL PALESTINE/ISRAEL FOR THE JEWS.
    The First World War; 100 years of lies.
    So, why was the first world war planned and executed?
    To steal Palestine/Israel for the Jews!
    The plan was already well known in 1853.
    The following is a quote from George Faber’s 1853 book on the downfall of the Turkish power and the return of the ten tribes (available here).
    “The subversion of the Turkish Power will evidently occasion, as all seem to anticipate, a fearful general war. This war will, I believe, be the last under the present order of things. It will commence, indeed, in Europe: but,… it will pass into Palestine…. and, in the course of its evolutions, Israel will be restored.”
    George Faber and his fellow conspirators, the Jews, successfully bought the plan to fruition, as can be seen from the following:
    “The subversion of the Turkish Power [i.e., the Ottoman Empire] will evidently occasion, as all seem to anticipate, a fearful general war [i.e., the first world war]. This war will, I believe, be the last under the present order of things [ushering a new world order]. It will commence, indeed, in Europe [with the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in 1914]: but,… it will pass into Palestine [western troops entered Palestine early in 1917]…. and, in the course of its evolutions [the second world war beginning 1939], Israel will be restored [Palestine/Israel was successfully stolen from its rightful inhabitants in 1948].”
    Some have complained that George Faber should not be included among the conspirators. They claim that he was just being used by the Jews to attain their ends. To back up their claim they state that Faber foresaw the return of all twelve tribes of Israel, which never happened, whereas the Jews only wanted the return of the Jews, which did happen. Once the Jews had obtained their goal, no more was heard about the return of the other tribes, it just wasn’t a concern. This indicates that Faber’s notions were of little importance, and that he was being used by the conspirators, rather than that he was among the conspirators.

    Posted by: John | Aug 23 2025 21:04 utc | 84

    this cult formed itself and has totally infiltrated every Western government.”
    @Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 17:52 utc |
    No it didnt (even though some Israelies have erroneously claimed that) and the Christian Zionists were the ones who told Herzl about zionism before he became one.
    The Larouche associates long ago said the British universities were cult factories producing tens of cults Christian and Zionist (in the 19th century they must have meant)
    But even the Sabbatean cult from the 17th century had that kind of background. It’s purpose was to support the EIC’s trade route with a node in Smyrna
    Since my comment vanished before I keep it short like this
    Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 23 2025 20:09 utc | 77
    Oh, a Larouchite. Whatever you say. Good day, Peter.

    Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 21:08 utc | 85

    The scary thing is the the City is being tested again with the different conflicts both militarily, economical and morally; if they begin to think they are going to lose the nukes will be loosed.
    Posted by: canuk | Aug 23 2025 19:16 utc | 75
    The sad thing is that the city is truly a humble vassal of US Imperialism and it’s supreme leader, DJT. Yet, it thinks it’s still living the vida loca in the 1800s. The city is led by a bunch of delusional, twisted old fruits that think they’re in a James Bond movie. Very sad.

    Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 21:14 utc | 86

    What a good man, b. God bless him.

    Posted by: juliania | Aug 23 2025 21:27 utc | 87

    Just a reminder that the Chosenites are also known for malicious behavior as tourists in Asia — and towards Asians within Israel (sexual harassment of Thai women employees, contractually banning Chinese construction workers from relationships with Israeli females, et cetera)…the world really needs to know about the insidious nature of the Chosenites!!
    Posted by: CasualObserver | Aug 23 2025 14:12 utc | 4
    I would add…
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg7w1exrw9o
    https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/feb/27/cyprus-authorities-failed-british-teenager-who-reported-alleged-gang-says-ehcr
    https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/feb/27/cyprus-authorities-failed-british-teenager-who-reported-alleged-gang-says-ehcr

    Posted by: Kaiama | Aug 23 2025 22:04 utc | 88

    NoName @ 34, 68:
    One reason that Muammar Gadhafi’s government of Libya was overthrown in 2011 was that the country’s central bank was not a member of the Bank of International Settlements. In the same year, Syria was targeted for regime change, beginning in Dar’aa and turning into a de facto war and invasion by the West through proxy armies, because that country’s central bank was not member of the BIS either.
    While Libya remained outside the BIS, it built a huge nation-wide infrastructure project to bring fresh water from underground Sahara aquifers to cities, towns and villages near the Mediterranean coast, financed entirely by Libyan banks with no loans from foreign sources, not even the IMF. Parts for this water infrastructure project (Great Man-Made River Project) were bombed and destroyed by NATO planes in 2011.
    Imagine what other nations outside the BIS could do, in the way Libya did in the 1990s and early 2000s, and you start to see why the other MoA commenter mentioned Basel as a target to be glassed over.

    Posted by: Refinnejenna | Aug 23 2025 22:07 utc | 89

    People change, especially in radicalizing periods like ours. They should be encouraged when that change is toward a recognition of the material reality of Israeli genocide and Imperialism.
    Brian Bertelic was once an Imperialist soldier.
    Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 17:11 utc | 54
    Indeed.

    Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 23 2025 22:32 utc | 90

    When rulers weave famine like a garment and drape it over the poor, when empires engineer hunger as a weapon, when war becomes the only language they speak then there is only one cure left: the awakening of the people. Not the scattered cry of one land, but the unified roar of all lands.
    So long as nations kneel before their decision-makers, so long as people accept divisions of race, creed, flag and border, they remain cattle for slaughter, fuel for wars, soft targets for headlines that never arrive. These famines are not accidents of nature they are crafted conspiracies, minted in the war rooms of Washington, Tel Aviv, London, Berlin, Paris. They fatten their treasuries with the bones of the hungry, they build their empires upon the silence of the weak.
    The only solution is unity stronger than their bombs, solidarity sharper than their lies, resistance that does not end at borders. Until the world’s people tear down the invisible fences that divide them, the same script of chaos, instability, tyranny and oppression will play again and again Gaza today, another city tomorrow.
    Either the masses unite into one unbreakable wall, or they remain scattered stones kicked around by empires. There is no third path.
    https://x.com/georgegalloway/status/1959040655553871940
    George Galloway @georgegalloway
    Magnificent
    Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 23 2025 20:22 utc | 78
    Unity of the wage slaves. The US needs a George Galloway. I remember with pleasure watching him humiliate some American Imperialist at some sort of Congressional hearing re: the rape of Iraq.

    Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 23:22 utc | 91

    Oh, a Larouchite. Whatever you say. Good day, Peter.
    Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 21:08 utc | 86
    ______
    Surely you didn’t just notice that? Every last word of his is a Reading from the Holy Gospel of Lyndon Larouche.

    Posted by: malenkov | Aug 23 2025 23:23 utc | 92

    Unity of the wage slaves. The US needs a George Galloway.
    Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 23 2025 23:22 utc | 92
    ________
    Well, since the Brits have so little use for him, he might as well cross the Pond and be ignored here. 😕

    Posted by: malenkov | Aug 23 2025 23:25 utc | 93

    On the BIS:
    Search for a Nov 1983 Harper’s article by Edward Jay Epstein called ‘Ruling the World of Money’
    I have tried to link to an archive.ph copy of the article both in the past and just now but this site will not allow it. It tells me that my comment has posted per usual but then the comment isn’t actually there.

    Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 23 2025 23:58 utc | 94

    Try this:
    https://tinyurl.com/3s9pmmhu

    Posted by: Dan Kelly | Aug 24 2025 0:00 utc | 95

    To be honest, I don’t know anything about this bank.
    Posted by: NoName | Aug 23 2025 18:17 utc | 68
    the bank of the banksta
    the home of hymen roth the godfather of the godfather
    khazhar land and sea pirates the name stealers identity thieves money changers
    parasites of history
    it is satans moloch moshiec bal BANK
    it controls everything
    “BARABAS: As for myself, I walk abroad a-nights,
    And kill sick people groaning under walls.
    Sometimes I go about and poison wells;
    And now and then, to cherish Christian thieves,
    I am content to lose some of my crowns,
    That I may, walking in my gallery,
    See ’em go pinion’d along by my door.
    Being young, I studied physic, and began
    To practice first upon the Italian;
    There I enrich’d the priests with burials,
    And always kept the sexton’s arms in ure
    With digging graves and ringing dead men’s knells.
    And, after that, was I an engineer,
    And in the wars ‘twixt France and Germany,
    Under pretence of helping Charles the Fifth,
    Slew friend and enemy with my stratagems:
    Then, after that, was I an usurer,
    And with extorting, cozening, forfeiting,
    And tricks belonging unto brokery,
    I fill’d the gaols with bankrupts in a year,
    And with young orphans planted hospitals;
    And every moon made some or other mad,
    And now and then one hang himself for grief,
    Pinning upon his breast a long great scroll
    How I with interest tormented him.
    But mark how I am blest for plaguing them:
    I have as much coin as will buy the town.”
    https://truthout.org/articles/history-of-the-bank-for-international-settlements/

    Posted by: normal wisdom | Aug 24 2025 0:15 utc | 96

    The problem with acting on your conscience is it is never enough for some people. There are at least two examples of that in previous comments on this thread. I don’t care that it took a long time for him to resign, at least he had the human decency to do so, at long last.

    Posted by: morongobill | Aug 24 2025 0:32 utc | 97

    >>> “The only solution is unity stronger than their bombs, solidarity sharper than their lies, resistance that does not end at borders. Until the world’s people tear down the invisible fences that divide them…” <<< Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 23 2025 20:22 utc | 78 . . The problem with Mr. Galloway's formulation is that the Blob seeks to destroy borders same as he does. That was always the problem with the trots. The inherent flaw, then and now. Unity of ideas is often helpful, but destroying unique representation within logical and smaller groupings plays right into the Blob's hands. Why do you think they shriek so hard against nationalism? Eat the bugs, serfs. Brussels mandates it. The bolshies don't mind totalitarianism, as long as they're the totalitarians. The Dutch are having a mild revolt. Galloway would like to strip that ability. So would the Blob. Orwell was on to this long ago.

    Posted by: seer | Aug 24 2025 0:44 utc | 98

    @ morongobill | Aug 24 2025 0:32 utc | 98
    Well, yes — if he was acting out of conscience or some sense of decency … as opposed to political opportunism. Because he’s a politician, a certain degree of skepticism is in order.

    Posted by: malenkov | Aug 24 2025 0:46 utc | 99

    Any politician that acts out of a sense of moral conscience based on secular ethics and obvious causes such as the genocide of a people as we see in the Gaza should be lauded, applauded, and commended for such behavior.
    These are times when such people are greatly needed, otherwise we will all fall into the abyss that many other other unethical politicians and their greedy donors are promoting.
    I’m glad to see B covering this story because ethics are fundamental to change on this Earth. Most of the time politicians only talk, growth, productivity, GDP, and how an economy bolstered by warfare and more weapons will fix everything.

    Posted by: George | Aug 24 2025 1:00 utc | 100