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July 24, 2025
Ukraine – Zelenski’s Backtracking Shows Fatal Weakness

Two days ago the (former) President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelenski dismantled the 'independence' of the specialized police (NABU) and prosecution (SAPO) organizations which are supposed to fight high level corruption.

It took less than 24 hours from the introduction of the law to get it passed through parliament and signed by the president. NABU and SAPO are now under the control of the prosecutor general who is under the direct control of the presidency.

There is no straight answer yet as to why Zelenski decided to do this right now.

NABU had just recently released corruption allegations against then deputy prime minister Oleksiy Chernyshov, a person who is near to Zelenski. There are rumors that NABU was preparing to release accusations against other members of Zelenski's inner circle.

Some speculate that NABU was to be used to restrain Zelenski from making concessions to Russia. Others speculate that NABU had to be reigned in because it was used to pressure Zelenski towards a peace plan.

Either way Zelenski will have hoped that the U.S. would not respond to the move. NABU and SAPO were created on behest of then Vice-President Joe Biden and played a role in the Russiagate allegations against Donald Trump. Biden had used NABU and accusations of corruption to control politics in Kiev. The European Union, Zelenski may have thought, would not protest because that would endanger its efforts to use Ukraine to fight Russia.

Those calculations have been wrong (archived):

Ukraine’s western backers rushed to try to persuade Zelenskyy to change course. French President Emmanuel Macron and European Council president António Costa phoned him on Tuesday in a last-ditch effort to dissuade him, according to people familiar with the matter.

G7 ambassadors in Kyiv also urged a rethink during a meeting that afternoon with Kravchenko and Ukraine’s spy chief Vasyl Malyuk, who tried to smooth western concerns.

The envoys found themselves confined to a room without their phones for more than two hours, which one diplomat described as an effort to “silence” them and keep them from informing their governments of the fast-moving events in Kyiv.

On Tuesday night protests erupted in Kiev.

On Wednesday Zelenski made the huge mistake of tracking back:

Volodymyr Zelensky has appeared to backtrack on his controversial corruption reform in an attempt to end protests in Ukraine.

The president said he had “heard what people are saying” and decided to propose a new bill in parliament in two weeks’ time.

“Very importantly, all norms for the independence of anti-corruption institutions will be included,” he said.

For a strongman to to make concessions and thereby show weakness is fatal.

Despite the apparent climbdown, thousands still descended onto the streets of Kyiv for a large-scale protest on Wednesday night shortly after the president made the statement.

Some protesters said they did not believe the president’s attempt to address criticism of the reform went far enough.

The EU published its disagreement:

Earlier on Wednesday, Ursula von der Leyen, the European Commission president, “conveyed her strong concerns” over the law, her spokesman said.

Brussels chiefs warned Mr Zelensky’s original legislation endangered both supplies of aid and Ukraine’s eventual entry into the European Union.

Western media, which had been strong supporters of Zelenski, suddenly changed course.

The Spectator called Zelensky’s war on Ukraine’s anti-corruption agencies a disaster. The Economist writes of a strategic blunder (archived). The Telegraph demands for Zelenski to step aside.

The protests and the change of mood are only the beginning of a storm that has been building for some time (machine translation):

[Y]esterday's "blink" of Zelensky changed the situation.

It is obvious that now the protests will continue and, quite likely, new forces will be involved in them. There are a lot of people who are dissatisfied with Zelensky in the country, including those who are faced with the prospect of complete loss of business and going to prison if the power in the country does not change. For example, Ihor Kolomoisky, whose media is increasingly negative about the authorities' reporting on protest actions. And other oligarchs and just big businessmen are clearly not comfortable with the situation of their complete dependence on Zelensky and the constant fear that they may be sent to prison at any time. And there are also those whose businesses were taken away by the authorities through the hands of security forces, criminal cases were fabricated, thrown into pre-trial detention centers, and sanctions were imposed.

In general, many people can use their resources to join the anti-green movement. In addition, those who are dissatisfied with the forced mobilization or relatives of those who have been mobilized can also join the protests (or organize their own actions). In general, disillusionment with the government and Zelensky personally has been growing in society for a long time, as has the protest potential. But it was prevented from spilling out by the widespread belief that it is impossible to protest during the war. Current promotions have shown that it is possible. Therefore, it is possible that now the protests will go on increasing and on a variety of occasions.

More bad news for Zelenski is coming:

According to Strana's sources in grant circles, the organizers of the protests plan to publish in the media in the near future a number of particularly impressive corruption cases that the NABU investigated against Zelensky's inner circle and top officials. And the number one task is to encourage the military to join the protests. If the latter succeeds, the situation for Zelensky will become really threatening.

All this is already destabilizing the inner situation in Ukraine. Whatever the outcome however it is unlikely to mean peace:

As for Zelensky's resignation, it will not in itself mean a drastic change in the situation. Although conspiracy theories are already spreading that everything that is happening is the implementation of the West's plan to overthrow Zelensky in order to then end the war, the departure of the current president from his post is not equal to ending the war. This can happen only if Vladimir Putin is ready to conclude a truce with Zelensky's replacement, abandoning his current demands such as transferring control over four regions and reducing the Armed Forces of Ukraine. None of the representatives of the current Ukrainian elite, including Zelensky's opponents, intends to fulfill these requirements. Just as no one in the West wants to encourage them to do so.

Things could change though if the Ukrainian military breaks apart.

The situation on the battlefield is dire. There is again a huge shortage of artillery ammunition. The lack of infantry has led to leaky front lines. Over the last days Russian sabotage reconnaissance groups (DRGs) were fighting within Pokrovsk even while the official frontline was still miles away from the city. A Russian push northward of the bulge between Pokrovsk and Konstantinivka went for several miles before meeting some feeble resistance. It is threatening to cut the supplies to both cities.


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The fall of both cities within the next few weeks seems likely.

Meanwhile massive Russian drone and missiles strikes continue to menace industrial and transport facilities far from the frontline.

Comments

Simplicius was once again inspired by B, but no credit this time
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/zelensky-rolls-back-anti-corruption

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 25 2025 12:50 utc | 101

Starlink crashed and Ukraine was the first to go dark
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 25 2025 2:17 utc | 83

It was a software failure, had nothing to do with Ukraine and it was back up again fairly promptly.

Posted by: Tel | Jul 25 2025 13:14 utc | 102

It is pretty clear that this is rather unlikely to end well for Zelensky.
However what is absolutely crystal clear is that it will not end well for western elites!
If you are trapped in a small locked room with a rabid dog, is it wise to attack the rabid dog with a stick? That is what the west are doing.
Disaffection in Ukraine has been building up for years and has clearly got to the point of boiling over. All these years they were afraid to go too far in protesting because of the iron fist of the regime – the moronic decision of the west to go all-out against Zelensky has broadcast a message high and wide that it is safe to protest, protestors are protected (that cannot now be undone even with a heavy crackdown). The western elites – high on cocaine – decided to gamble on a colour revolution. Typically for the western elites, they never stopped to consider that the situation on the ground is uncontrollable.
By going all-out in attacking Zelensky, the west have put all their cards on the table for everybody to see – in particular all Ukrainians.
My prediction is that the protests will spiral out of control, energised by genuine disaffection that will easily flood out the forces of colour revolution, and the end result will be the Ukrainians will turn heavily against the western elites driving the war and burning Ukraine to ashes.

Actually I think Zelensky was clever to take over control of the anti corruption orgs. He was also very clever to “backtrack” as he controls the backtrack mechanism. Must likely he will use it to turn the screw on the west, since they have now forced him to burn his boats!!! Giving ground superficially to the protests while he controls the mechanism costs very little (he will keep subtle backdoors that guarantee the orgs are not “above the law” – i.e. to keep investigations of him in check). Most vital to him now that the west is out to get him is to ensure that control of the orgs stays out of the hands of the western elites – as long as that can be assured and he keeps control of backdoor control mechanisms he can give lots of ground to “democratic protections” – as long as they are “protections” of Ukrainians not “protections” of western interests.
As long as he appears to be giving the protestors the trappings of “democratic protection” while denying control to the west, this turns the screw on the west and exposes all their machinations to the gaze of ordinary Ukrainian people.
Current score (metaphorically):
Zelensky: under house arrest, indicted for serious crimes, but with a good lawyer;
Western elites behind the colour revolution: already convicted, already sentenced, already tied to the stake, no lawyer.
In other words, the crazy western elites have made a fatal mistake to go all-out against mad dog Zelensky in public, when he has everything to lose and is in the corner.

Posted by: BM | Jul 25 2025 13:27 utc | 103

“@Norwegian | Jul 24 2025 20:50 utc | 41
My take is that a lot of young people got a message on their phones promising payment for participating in a ‘protest’. The message probably contained instructions like “take a piece of cardboard” and write the following, with letters so-and-so many centimeters tall.”
All those videos of young people is an excellent recruiting source for the AFU to ship them off into the front lines…

Posted by: Notlurking | Jul 25 2025 13:46 utc | 104

“@Norwegian | Jul 24 2025 20:50 utc | 41
My take is that a lot of young people got a message on their phones promising payment for participating in a ‘protest’. The message probably contained instructions like “take a piece of cardboard” and write the following, with letters so-and-so many centimeters tall.”
All those videos of young people is an excellent recruiting source for the AFU to ship them off into the front lines…

Posted by: Notlurking | Jul 25 2025 13:48 utc | 105

Sorry for twice post…

Posted by: Notlurking | Jul 25 2025 13:50 utc | 106

@ Indulis Kradzibs 75
“…Trump is bumbling his way towards Putin’s goals [in the Ukraine].”What Is To Be Done?, Lenin’s pamphlet from 1903 but with democracy this time around.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Jul 25 2025 14:26 utc | 107

Things could change though if the Ukrainian military breaks apart.

Things have changed because the Ukrainian is breaking apart.
Even Trump came out with a wonderful soundbite of sending Patriots to back Kiev but paid for by Europe.
Something to keep everyone happy, and ducking any responsibility for the iminent collapse (while not actually having to send any weapons which would have done anything anyway)

Posted by: Michael Droy | Jul 25 2025 14:42 utc | 108

My guess would be:
Trump admin has an aversion to funding NGO’s which have often interfered with governments both at home and abroad – so they may have given Zelensky the sense that it would not be too bothered if he shut them -down.
Also perhaps the US is reducing regular funding to Ukraine and if they are not going to pay the fare they dont get to call the shots so much and I get the impression is seen as more hot air than substance.
But this makes me wonder:
Would the west want to collapse the regime to provide excuse for the loss and to leave Russia with a mess?

Posted by: jared | Jul 25 2025 14:50 utc | 109

Meant to say:
I get the impression that Europe is seen as more hot air than substance.

Posted by: jared | Jul 25 2025 14:52 utc | 110

Cold War 2.0: Should Zelensky Step Down?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjrjzkt1rhg
“Cold War 2.0 is a weekly podcast discussing global geopolitics with Kevork Almassian and Dr Tarik Cyril Amar.”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 25 2025 15:04 utc | 111

Zelensky may think he can skidaddle off to Moscow and enjoy Mother Russia’s wonders but the Americans will never let him do that. He knows far too much, and the fear that he could squeal means that the US/UK will whack him first. Zaluzhny reminds of of Big Minh: the army is falling apart, the ammo is short and the erstwhile allies want out (exceptng the UK of course). So it looks like there will be a collapse à la Saigon, or Kabul,and if he hasn’t been strung up, the Americans will put him in a golden home in Florida where “Oh dear” an alligator was loose in the living room. Far more important is a proper internationa tribunal to investigate the whole swamp because Zelensky was always a stooge. The real culprits are Biden,Blinken,Lindsey Graham, David Cameron,and charges should be brought against Ursula von de Leyen, mastercrook,as well.

Posted by: Stierlitz | Jul 25 2025 15:05 utc | 112

It’s the beginning of the end. The walls are closing in.

Posted by: Featherless | Jul 25 2025 15:18 utc | 113

Posted by: BM | Jul 25 2025 13:27 utc | 103
This guy is a Ukronazi shill. Don’t believe me? Take a look at his comments above.
Similar to other comments that recently ascribe outsized agency, intelligence and import to Z”s neonazi booty scratchers, that’s what BM does, in a more lengthy way. Again, the moment Imperialist support for these apes is removed, their hayride to hell only accelerates and they know it, hence the immediate climb down under pressure.
They are now trapped between and unbreakable Russia and fickle US Imperialism. Like Ukraine itself, it’s only a question of time before they are crushed. And, that’s exactly what these bastards deserve after willingly driving the world to nuclear Holocaust. The bill for all those luxury cars and trips to Paris while working class, Ukrainian youth is slaughtered on the altar of Imperialism, has come due, you fucks!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 25 2025 15:26 utc | 114

If people weren’t dying in droves the Keystone-cop-antics of western-elitists would be comical…they are shocked..Shocked..SHOCKED that a fig leaf of propriety would be shorn from their tiny..tiny..tiny little dancer…for all to see what lies beneath.
Yeah, if those clowns think specialized police [NABU] and it’s prosecutorial arm [SAPO] worthwhile institutions you can bet the house that the opposite is true. Consider, Biden, Macron, von der Leyen conidered the War-Against-Russia-[WAR] a good thing and now insist that NABU/SAPO are good too?
Cast me as unconcerned, this thing, this unconscionable war will end when Russia takes/sieges Odessa and it’s environs…whether Russia wants to take/siege Odessa or not. Proof? 3/4 of NATO/US forces in ex-ukrainia and it’s primary supply line are there. Chip away all you want, hope for an internal collapse all you want, NATO will hold onto the Black Sea Coast [BSC] until it is lost, meaning they’ll keep the war going until they can’t. The English are directing this thing, this Crimean War 2.0
The Crimean War 1.0 was another of “brilliant” English “ideas”. The Crimean War 1.0 was fought to limit Russian influence in the Black Sea and the subsequent treaty did just that. A jolly good victory…using other peoples deaths to accomplish English goals. Nothing has changed from the English perspective. With the exception of England using it’s dupes in DC this time, even the actors are the same, thank goodness Erdogan has revived the Ottoman empire…just in time.
By the using the shorthand “English” I mean it’s upper-most-class and it’s pathetic pantheon of sycophantic minions.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 25 2025 15:27 utc | 115

Is there any point in further listing Trump’s deranged and soon-to-fail plans ? I guess not. What DOES NEED TO HAPPEN is that the people of the US, European nations and the UK all need to form new political parties with serious and long-term intent to fight for democracy. New parties is the only good game-changer on the planet. It’s still What Is To Be Done?, Lenin’s pamphlet from 1903 but with democracy this time around.
Posted by: JessDTruth | Jul 25 2025 14:26 utc | 107
Ok and now we have another species of shill. Pray tell, what does this abstract “democracy” mean concretely? Oh and Lenin is cited! How “revolutionary”! So, the formula is cite Lenin, then replace a genuine social revolution for a rehashed version of the Dems struggle for “democracy itself” against Trump, but this time with new and improved parties. What parties might these be? Could they be new and improved agencies of western Imperialism with lefty sounding names and rhetoric?
New parties are needed, but “new parties” is not a fetish object to be sought regardless of the class content and political perspective of those parties.
Three planks to tell if your new party is really “new”. 1) Does it support in any way Imperialist war abroad? 2) does it further the cohesion of the working class globally in a struggle against the billionaire Oligarchs and their capitalist system? 3) Does it promote workers power over the ruling class?
If anyone is interested in what Lenin actually had to say about the state, peruse this short pamphlet: state and revolution.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 25 2025 15:41 utc | 116

…those videos of young people protesting…ship them off to the front lines.. – Notlurking 104
Exactly Notlurking 104,
The Galician Waffen SS of today are using the Russians to exterminate those of ex-ukrainia that are untermenschen just as the SS were known to use Russian tank engines to gas Slavs and Jews. Sadly, Russia knows that the “war of attrition” tactic is being turned against them but still they persist.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 25 2025 15:42 utc | 117

Sadly, Russia knows that the “war of attrition” tactic is being turned against them but still they persist.
Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 25 2025 15:42 utc | 117
Come on, Brennan. Its quite clear the Russians have put themselves in an excellent position using a patient, thoughtful strategy that reveals its power more and more every day. Once again, they don’t do “shock and awe” on civilians then “cut and run” like the west. Most importantly their army is packed with soldiers based on the knowledge that they don’t needlessly sacrifice their people in “meat assaults”
Meanwhile, where do the Imperialist stooges of Ukraine find themselves today? Crushed between Russia and their “friends” in Washington. They are fucked!
Second guessing Putin and Russia at this stage of the game is just silly armchair warrior stuff. You’re better than that, buddy.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 25 2025 15:58 utc | 118

Posted by: Jane | Jul 25 2025 2:10 utc | 81
Sebastian Sas is hilarious, wise and well informed. I’ve watched a few of his YT videos and they are all thought-provoking and entertaining. And his instincts are sound. A good contribution to the bettering of mankind.

Posted by: Avtonom | Jul 25 2025 15:59 utc | 119

A little excerpt from Pepe, I think puts the situation into perspective:
“They never learn
Well, they did not learn anything out of the collective West humiliation in the proxy war in Ukraine. A top old school hand of the Deep State, now retired, and familiar with the glory days of the OSS, sums it all up. Relevant excerpts of our conversation:
“The US and Europe are already at war with Russia and they are losing it. The US has 20,000 armed troops in Europe to face Russia. NATO forces are largely a figment of the imagination.
Ukraine is nothing but a front in the US battle for control of the Eurasian land mass a la Mackinder. The US cannot supply both Israel and Europe at the same time. It has overstretched itself. As for Europe, it has no army of any consequence and most of its equipment is antiquated. All of it is pure bluff.”
He adds, “the Europeans are waking up to the fact that the US has a moat around it so that it can be reached only by ICBMs and submarine missiles but Europe is in itself indefensible as short range conventional missiles can destroy it. Nukes are not required to destroy Europe in one day but a rain of Russian missiles.”
Now compare that with Russia’s top negotiator in the Istanbul kabuki, historian Medinsky, when asked whether Moscow fears new sanctions by the EU and the US:
“This is not a question for us, not for the negotiating group. I can tell you this. After the revolution and civil war in 1920, again, another historical reference, we had not only sanctions, we had an absolute diplomatic and economic blockade of Soviet Russia from everyone. Everyone! It did not prevent us from winning World War II (…) Nothing will prevent Russia from winning now, The only question is the price of victory and the time it takes to achieve it.”
This is something that will never sink in amongst Think Tankland in D.C. As much as the technological accomplishments – now visible – of the Made in China 2025 plan will never sink in.
Enter bluster, hubris, the regime change obsession – and worse. Because if the US ruling class psycho killers finally conclude they cannot maintain their unilateral world hegemony even via war, they will abandon their cherished Think Tankland “reports” for good and even resort, in despair, to a Samson option.”
Indeed, they never learn. Should wage slaves follow them in their suicidal idiocy and desperation? Should we accept anything they say about their failed war on Russia in Ukraine?

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 25 2025 16:14 utc | 120

Posted by: Jane | Jul 25 2025 2:10 utc | 81
Sebastian Sas is hilarious, wise and well informed. I’ve watched a few of his YT videos and they are all thought-provoking and entertaining. And his instincts are sound. A good contribution to the bettering of mankind.
Posted by: Avtonom | Jul 25 2025 15:59 utc | 119
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I’m glad someone picked up on Sebastian Sas.
If more had watched the linked video, a lot of speculative commentary taking up space could have been avoided.
Here is his latest video, posted just half an hour ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBd7q4CtYJ0

Posted by: Jane | Jul 25 2025 16:37 utc | 121

This guy is a Ukronazi shill. Don’t believe me? Take a look at his comments above.
[…Snip male bovine excrement…]
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 25 2025 15:26 utc | 114

You’ve just outed yourself MI6 shill Ahenobarbus, congratulations.

Posted by: BM | Jul 25 2025 16:44 utc | 122

“You were born a man and you’ll die a man,” adding that she is “fully prepared to take on this battle on behalf of the entire world” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 25 2025 13:47 utc | 141
Dirty Bill’s use of the term ‘childlike curiosity’ to Epstein speaks volumes… Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 25 2025 14:29 utc | 148
… but Candace is the meteoric star, right now, incandescent with a mother’s righteous anger. …
From my point of view, she’s pro-human and pro-child, which I u”Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 25 2025 14:50 utc | 149

The problem is that he wanted—he had dreams outside of Germany. He wa

But woe unto those children who by whatever means become hateful to her.
What a petty little hill to die on.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 25 2025 16:46 utc | 123

What a petty little hill to die on.
Posted by: Laurence | Jul 25 2025 16:46 utc | 123
It’s all about the clicks.
Besides, Candace rose suspiciously without trace – be ready for her handlers to desert her to the tender mercies of lawfare sometime soon.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 25 2025 17:06 utc | 124

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 25 2025 17:06 utc | 124
Incorrect I have watched her for over 15 years -she’s the real MccCpoy

Posted by: canuk | Jul 25 2025 17:25 utc | 125

Incorrect I have watched her for over 15 years -she’s the real MccCpoy
Posted by: canuk | Jul 25 2025 17:25 utc | 125
thats what they always say. They claim some “mysterious, meteoric rise” of someone, thinking their ignorance is fact. I jave watched many small timers struggle for over a decade before finding a large audience, yet have to listen to some hater tell me they just “suddenly came out of nowhere”.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 25 2025 18:17 utc | 126

Here is his latest video, posted just half an hour ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBd7q4CtYJ0
Posted by: Jane | Jul 25 2025 16:37 utc | 121

Just watched it. Hilarious.
Two videos a day is a bit much for me, but every time I see one of his videos I want to see more of them.
His “self-presentation” explains a lot about just how he is so knowledgable.
https://www.youtube.com/@Sebastian_Sas

Posted by: Avtonom | Jul 25 2025 19:45 utc | 127

One professor who knows Ukrainian politics mentioned that the response was largely due to other Ukrainian oligarchs. Ukraine, being the most corrupt country in Europe (or even the world now), can have a big shuffling of wealth and power each election. There was some indication Zelensky’s move wasn’t necessarily to protect himself, but to directly attack other oligarchs such as the “chocolotier” oligarch Poroshenko who was accused of accepting Russian funding. Keep in mind these are pretty much all nationalist people and Banderists. However, they’re not stupid and move to protect themselves. They know how to fund protests as much as NGOs do, partly because they’ve worked together.
For the average Ukrainian, they know they can’t protest the recruitment centers and many other oppressions. But this is something they can protest without fear of arrest, and they can ask for Zelensky’s removal. There’s a lot of simmering anger, looking for an outlet. So I wouldn’t be surprised if the protests grow.

Posted by: Matthew | Jul 25 2025 20:43 utc | 128

Ref Starlink
Not so quickly in fact…was still going on as to the early today (ca 12 hours ago). Some major institutions in the low countries were offline btw.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 25 2025 21:05 utc | 129

Jane@121……The Green Tee Shirt….priceless…..thanks for posting….
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jul 25 2025 21:53 utc | 130

https://www.rt.com/news/621972-eu-corruption-survey/
This is profound evidence of how deep and severe the sheer rot of the EU has become. It’s worse than the US.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jul 25 2025 21:55 utc | 131

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 25 2025 18:17 utc | 126
I’m no hater, I’ve been aware of her for some time.
If she is the real deal. as claimed, why would she choose to die on the hill of Brigitte Macron’s pipi?
So many more important things to call out.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 25 2025 23:41 utc | 132

I’m no hater,
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 25 2025 23:41 utc | 132

Posted by: Uw | Jul 26 2025 0:22 utc | 133

I’m no hater,
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 25 2025 23:41 utc | 132
Tell me about Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, Alex Jones, and Elon Musk.
You’ve known about her for “quite some time”, yet,
“Besides, Candace rose suspiciously without trace ”
What is suspicious about it? If you have known about her “for quite some time” then you would know her audience grew slowly. What do you mean “without a trace” She was particularly popular among conservative white women, because she was a well spoken, pro-life black woman. If that is suspicious to you, you know nothing of American culture and should cease from commenting on it.
The haters just cant handle some people do rise up out of hard work. They think Alex Jones is some agent because of his zionist bent, or Joe Rogan some CIA plot because he said something once they dont like, or Elon Musk just some lucky loser. This, in the haters mind, tells them that “the real reason” nobody listens to them is because of how much truth they speak, not because they never put forth effort to make their voice heard in any meaningful way.
Lack of clout is a sign of righteousness, while any clout is a sign of evil, malign backdoor deals with the devil, therefore, their lack of clout is proof they are right.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 26 2025 0:34 utc | 134

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 26 2025 0:34 utc | 134
You are ascribing a lot ill intent to me, despite knowing nothing abut me.
Doesn’t seem to prevent you from passing comment.
I kind of like Tucker these days, since he left Fox.
Used to lie Alex Jones about twenty years ago but got tired of his shtick.
Not given much attention to Joe Rogan.
Candace Owens got popular telling conservatives what they want to hear – if you like her because of that then good for you.
I prefer people who are less partisan and want to challenge established, tribal ways of thinking.
I’m not that interested in Brigitte’s (or Big Mike’s) alleged penis.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 26 2025 0:58 utc | 135

Candace Owens got popular telling conservatives what they want to hear – if you like her because of that then good for you.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 26 2025 0:58 utc | 135
Candace Owens aint shit, fool. I’ve heard about 10 minutes of her my entire life. One of those was about the JQ, and she wasn’t shy. She isn’t “big” she is just one of at least two hundred alt-right media figures. But every time one of them start talking, I get people LIKE YOU, HATERS, who think it is in their purview to “warn” me about “who they really work for” and a bunch of bullshit like that. No proof, no nothing, just the “logic” that they cant be “successful” unless they are “compromised” Just know nothing “they must’ve got big because Im not” jealousy.. aka hate… eg Hater.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 26 2025 1:10 utc | 136

I’m not that interested in Brigitte’s (or Big Mike’s) alleged penis.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 26 2025 0:58 utc | 135
Your lack of interest is proof she has “handlers” and her “rise” was “suspicious”.
Piss off, piss ant.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 26 2025 1:11 utc | 137

And before you… “that’s not what I said” with me…

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 26 2025 1:14 utc | 138

Is that logic, chatNPC? Is there anything logical about that? Nope, its a complete non-sequitor.
Posted by: UWDude | Jul 26 2025 1:14 utc | 138
Because it is a petty, prurient issue mostly aimed at getting clicks (and it seems lawsuits), but of no real consequence to anything? Maybe?

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 26 2025 1:23 utc | 139

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 25 2025 18:17 utc | 126
`ChatNPC’ told me, not you.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 26 2025 2:23 utc | 140

Only question now is: Which of you is the straw man?

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 26 2025 3:04 utc | 141

Candace Owens got popular telling conservatives what they want to hear – if you like her because of that then good for you.
I prefer people who are less partisan and want to challenge established, tribal ways of thinking.
I’m not that interested in Brigitte’s (or Big Mike’s) alleged penis.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 26 2025 0:58 utc | 135

So you like people who challenge establishment thinking?
I mean … for example there’s this cliche that all black people must necessarily be voting Democrat, to get da handouts … a cliche which especially applies to black women, and the warfare/welfare state which is in the business of destroying the institution of marriage. You must have at least heard about that once or twice … well suppose a strong, black female role model came forward and started to challenge that … get black people thinking along the lines of self reliance, family values, respecting themselves and their community … that might something of a slap in the face to the established order, huh?
Then after getting some traction amongst conservative listeners this black female role model decided to mention that Israel shouldn’t get a free pass on morality … when the IDF bombs cities to rubble that’s human rights abuse just like any other wartime mass destruction. We should have a consistent set of principles in place.
Woha! That might upset a few of the long term established conservatives who will criticize Russia plenty but remain simply in love with everything Israel does.
As for Candice Owens poking fun at some “first lady” elite, over looking a bit like a tranny … I would say that’s mostly a publicity stunt … trying to provoke outrage for the sake of getting talked about. It’s a bit ugly but that’s Show Business for you … what was done to Kanye West was also a bit ugly. Anyhow both Kanye and Owens have done some heavy lifting challenging the establishment … more than most of us have done IMHO.

Posted by: Tel | Jul 26 2025 3:52 utc | 142

“You were born a man and you’ll die a man,” adding that she is “fully prepared to take on this battle on behalf of the entire world” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 25 2025 13:47 utc | 141
A petty hater and megalomaniac to boot.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 26 2025 4:24 utc | 143

Can we please take discussion of trannies to the open thread.
This is the UKRAINE thread. Bloody stupid trolling

Posted by: watcher | Jul 26 2025 5:13 utc | 144

Right NOW Russia has partly entered Pokrovsk, has surrounded Myrnograd, has partly entered Kupiansk, and is probably about to start the battle for Siversk. And you are worrying about a self promoting tranny.
The Palestine thread is so awful i cannot read it. Thousands dead or dying and you think a TRANNY matters. Get you priorities right or are you psychopaths.

Posted by: watcher | Jul 26 2025 5:18 utc | 145

Little cun.t, what do you know?
Yours will never travel safe. stinking genociders.
Some of us are waiting, and will hurt you. Cunts who kill the children stink so bad.
Tonight I have marked 2 of you.
So ugly, female came later, tattooed, the male ugly like you are.Distorted fucks.
I have located you.
Now wait, cunts.
Never you will move around again freely.
I open the hunt for child killers.
CUNTS
Posted by: stranger | Jul 25 2025 21:31 utc | 216
Eat it.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 26 2025 5:37 utc | 146

This is the UKRAINE thread. Bloody stupid trolling
Posted by: watcher | Jul 26 2025 5:13 utc | 144

Fair point … Candace Owens also called out NATO’s obsessive Eastward expansion as deliberately provocative for the Russians … and she was 100% right on that specific issue.
But the thing is, NATO were called out years ago in an open letter … right back during the Clinton years … dated 1997.
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/1997-06/arms-control-today/opposition-nato-expansion
Owens is just repeating what’s been said many times before … but it sure as heck isn’t what most conservatives wanna hear.

Posted by: Tel | Jul 26 2025 6:44 utc | 147

Ahenobarbus | Jul 25 2025 15:41 utc | 116
You see Lenin as being a champion of a genuine social revolution.
And as usual supporters of those hero socialists like Lenin ignore that he was both trained and funded by the western imperialists.
What such individuals really believed matters when one wants to delve into psychological details but the dependence, economic AND ideological dependence was and still is the weak spot of virtually all revolutionary socialists.
Like Lenin and many other revolutionaries being a member of masonic organisations immediately makes them imperialist associates. The fact that socialists never like to competently touch that aspect is telling.
There was nothing genuine about any socialist revolution but you and your well-meaning allies will go on dreaming of course and therefore also go on luring people in the interest of the oligarchy who has always been playing both sides.
The americans were once on the right track through Alexander Hamilton although his intentions have been totally obscured by the elites who even managed to lie and claim that he was the origin of Wall Street’s kind of economy.
Hamilton defended an economy when private and state interests were wedded and the economy was determined by productive forces so the currency was trusted due to predictions for production rather than to past merits including inherited wealth,
His intentions also included that banking should be arranged and used such that people became innovative.
Read Hamilton versus Wall Street. The Core Principles Of the American System of Economics
https://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Versus-Wall-Street-Principles/dp/1532067542/
by Nancy Bradeen Spanaus

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jul 26 2025 6:52 utc | 148

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jul 26 2025 6:52 utc | 148
Oh FFS
The world changes. Hamilton may have been a blessed saint with the perfect economic model 250 years ago but how that relates to today’s world is hard to grasp. It is sort of true of Lenin too. !00 years on he does not have much to offer. Nor does Marx or Adam Smith or the Politics of Pitt the Elder or Younger ir Walter scott or Charles I and II or Cromwell.
Sure they may have shreds of advice to offer, but to carry on as if they have the answers today is just plain silly.
Aircraft, the internet, digital currencies, satellites, nuclear weapons to name just a tiny few things they could not grasp.
And in any case what the f do they tell us of Ukraine today

Posted by: watcher | Jul 26 2025 7:36 utc | 149

As for Candice Owens poking fun at some “first lady” elite, over looking a bit like a tranny … I would say that’s mostly a publicity stunt … trying to provoke outrage for the sake of getting talked about. It’s a bit ugly but that’s Show Business for you …
Posted by: Tel | Jul 26 2025 3:52 utc | 142
My point entirely. Thank you.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 26 2025 9:39 utc | 150

The recent political events in Ukraine might be a pivot point in the conflict due to what appears to be Western maneuvering to replace Z before the ukrainian people rise up into widespread uprisings, which in turn would compromise Ukraine’s ability to maintain the front line, and thus all Western efforts for the past three years would have been in vain. If, and that’s a big “if”, such a scenario were to take place, would Europe (EU & non-EU continental members) start deploying ground troops to prop up the front lines? Would Ukraine drop the conscription age to 18? Would Europe, and/or possibly US, have sufficient weapons for these new armies entering the conflict zone? And, would nuclear weapons be launched?
I’m wondering how events could unfold if Western powers are unable to control Z and/or the ukrainian masses, and specifically, how an escalation of the conflict would look like.

Posted by: Spiridon | Jul 26 2025 12:30 utc | 151

I’m wondering how events could unfold if Western powers are unable to control Z and/or the ukrainian masses, and specifically, how an escalation of the conflict would look like.
Posted by: Spiridon | Jul 26 2025 12:30 utc | 151

I suspect Zelensky’s fall (which feels imminent) will be followed by a collapse in military discipline and an emergence of various armed factions all fighting with each other for whatever is left of 404. Oligarch-warlords would try and carve out territories for themselves and any NATO/EU peacekeepers could end up being shot at from all sides.
Meanwhile the Russians will occupy such parts as they deem necessary to ‘protect Russian speakers’.
In short an almighty shitshow.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 26 2025 12:45 utc | 152

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 26 2025 12:45 utc | 152
If there are “NATO/EU peacekeepers . . . being shot at from all sides.” then we are in WWIII. Such a presence is a big NO-NO for Russia.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jul 26 2025 13:28 utc | 153

Who cares about Candance Owens hhand why is this being discussed here? American brain rot knows no bounds.

Posted by: Eol | Jul 26 2025 13:51 utc | 154

Ukraine Steel Production down 2.5%
https://infra.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/construction/ukraine-steel-output-down-2-5-so-far-in-2025/121690890
Seems understated, what with the loss of the Pokrovsk Metinvest coking facility to Russia. However, an admission against interest, so gains some credibility.
File under: Shrinking Ukrainian GDP, things you won’t learn reading the Western kneepad media.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jul 26 2025 13:59 utc | 155

Russia also seems to have taken/ threatning the only supply route left that supplies ukrainian forces in Pokrovks.

Posted by: WMG | Jul 26 2025 14:18 utc | 156

Posted by: Tel | Jul 26 2025 3:52 utc | 142
“Then after getting some traction amongst conservative listeners this black female role model decided to mention that Israel shouldn’t get a free pass on morality … when the IDF bombs cities to rubble that’s human rights abuse just like any other wartime mass destruction. We should have a consistent set of principles in place.
Woha! That might upset a few of the long term established conservatives who will criticize Russia plenty but remain simply in love with everything Israel does.
Posted by: watcher | Jul 26 2025 5:18 utc | 145
“The Palestine thread is so awful i cannot read it. Thousands dead or dying and you think a TRANNY matters. Get you priorities right or are you psychopaths.”
Everyone should care about the suffering in Gaza, but the reason I don’t follow the Palestine thread is because it is so hard to get to the truth. Any reporting that involves Israel is skewed by the bias of the reporter. The same people who will point out the NATO propaganda designed to make Putin and Russia look evil are the same ones who will unquestionably accept propaganda that suggests that Israel is entirely at fault and has no right of self defense and no right to make sure October 7th isn’t repeated. If this conflict involved Outer Mongolia and Uzbekistan one could filter through the information and get to the truth, but once Israel is in the mix any attempt at objective analysis goes out the window. That’s why I stick to the Ukraine thread; the truth is unknowable on the Palestine thread.
For example, there’s a famine in Gaza and Israel is being blamed for it. Yet this Townhall article shows drone footage of 2500 tons of pallets of food aid sitting in a UN facility that the UN is holding back (allegedly) while Israel is trying to facilitate more truck deliveries of food aid (allegedly).
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/dmitri-bolt/2025/07/23/ghf-offers-to-deliver-un-aid-amid-un-complaints-n2660845
As Pilate said to Jesus, what is Truth?

Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 26 2025 14:20 utc | 157

…but it sure as heck isn’t what most conservatives MAGA supporters wanna hear.
MAGA equals nationalists and isolationists … quite similar to the neo-Nazis in Ukraine and across Europe. More in common as we heard from JD Vance, Rubio and from Trump traveling to Scotland,
In UK, Trump Gives Chilling Warning To Europe, Reacts To Macron Palestine Vow, Faces Epstein Storm
Not willing to open up about the agenda meeting with UK’s Starmer on Sunday … I would guess UKRAINE has the highest priority and the “nuclear threat” in the near future.
On cue … Xi Jinping aborted meetings with VDL and send her packing a day early 😂

Posted by: Oui | Jul 26 2025 15:06 utc | 158

@121 I think he’s an ethnic Hungarian from Romania. Sas means eagle.

Posted by: Peter Schmidt | Jul 26 2025 15:48 utc | 159

Sebastiaan Sas latest — UA military salary gap and Kyiv is out of money (some, not the oligarchs 🔥)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_JfNN7g-EA

The European Commission is exploring ways to cover Ukraine’s 2026 budget deficit, which could reach $19B, due to reduced US support and declining hopes for a ceasefire with Russia?

Posted by: Oui | Jul 26 2025 16:22 utc | 160

As Pilate said to Jesus, what is Truth?
Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 26 2025 14:20 utc | 157
Anything you say from now on will be considered a political expedient. ‘struth.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 26 2025 16:28 utc | 161

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 26 2025 9:39 utc | 150
Belgium comes to terms with ‘human zoos’ of its colonial past | Belgium | The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/16/belgium-comes-to-terms-with-human-zoos-of-its-colonial-past
And that too is showbiz, strawman. Poke around the Palestine thread for more `show business’.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 26 2025 16:35 utc | 162

Thousands dead or dying and you think a TRANNY matters. Get your priorities right…psychopaths” – watcher 145
This is the equivalent of an Israeli-American-resident interrupting any lecture/discussion about WWII/20th-Century in the US with the all too familiar cry “what about the Jews in Nazi concentration camps?”. Throughout my education in the 20th century, this was a common occurrence. And it worked…in getting Israel an exorbitant amount of funds/arms from the USG. Anytime anybody in congress objected to the disproportionate amounts Israel was receiving they were shouted down with “what about the Jews in Nazi concentration camps?”. They learned to shut and go along or, be called an antisemitic “psychopath“…just as you have done.
The fact of the matter is, an intelligent person can think about more than one thing and the period 1932-1945 had a lot stuff going on…maybe some other genocides of WWII deserve 1/500th the ink the Jews get? There were after all about 60 million civilian deaths and yet, using your “logic” of “talk about what I want to talk about or shut-up…psycho” they hardly ever get mentioned, only the Jews in the Nazi concentration camps.
BTW, outside of the people in power lying about what is plainly obvious, that an un-democratic leader is part of an international pedophile ring I don’t think the Bridgette story deserves much ink but..the denialist keep it in the news-cycle. That said, you thinking that an international pedophile ring is not worthy of any mention kinda tells a story too…eh? That and the fact that you clearly share some of Candice’s prejudices judging by your use of the slur word “Tranny”. Fair enough, free speech right? Oh wait, you think you should control the speech of others?

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 26 2025 16:53 utc | 163

August 02, 2024
Ukraine SitRep: Catch up

To the north west of Donetsk city Russian forces made huge progress towards Pokrovsk city, one of the main road and rail crossings in the region. Pokrovsk is already in normal artillery range and the Ukrainian forces defending its approaches seem to be utterly worn out.
North east of the Pokrovsk front Russian forces are in the process of taking the New York agglomeration of several cities from the north as well as from the south.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/08/ukraine-sitrep-catch-up-.html
Russian forces made “huge progress towards Pokrovsk city” – on August 2, 2024!
It has taken Russian forces a still year beseiging Pokrovsk – and still haven’t taken it!
Snails pace indeed.

Posted by: Julian | Jul 26 2025 17:03 utc | 164

If the Jewish comedian is replaced, it has to be by a full-blown dictator, no more pretenses of democracy, parliament, political party, nothing, it has to be a military dictatorship with a very fanatical nationalist leader on top. This is because as I’ve commented earlier, the system is too fragile for any other kind of replacement.
A strong dictatorship has to start by killing and incarcerating the previous government. In this particular case, a strong dictator also would need to start immediately sending the remaining 18+ males to the front lines. No more beating around the bushes, upper middle-class 18+ males have to go to the East and face the Russians. For that to work, Western honchos have to promise to the would-be dictator a continued or even increased flow of Western treasure and materiel.
Any other attempt at replacing the comedian would unleash internecine warfare for power and money and would end up facilitating the conquest of the country by the Russians.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 26 2025 17:45 utc | 165

@watcher | Jul 26 2025 7:36 utc | 149
Adam Smith never had anything to offer.
He was an agent in the service of the east india Company and the aim was to fool rival nations to act in the interest of the British Empire to enable looting the rivals.
That was the reason why the young US republic ever broke free.
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And that dubious role was also the case for the rest of the wellknown British economists.
They all studied at the Haileybury College owned by the East India ompany
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Since you havent realised that the battle was not between perfect eternal ideas vs ineffective ideas but about caring for the population and national prosperity against an oligarchy that always fights against educating people to become innovative and productive.
The oligarchy’s intentions are bad and evil from the start.
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Hamilton had the right motives.
He and anyone having such motives may have to alter the means on the way but the road travelled would never approve of the evil oligarchy’s mode of operation.
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All the socialist revolutionaries being dependent on the empire while many current grass root sympathisers of them usually look the other way and ignore it tells me they arent intellectually mature!
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However from a deep philosophical level I am not sure the world favors our development. The long term power held by an oligarchy now for at least millenia makes me worry that forces unknown to us, be it God or something else might be forced for some reason to hold back development of more profound knowledge and whatever inventions that might follow.
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If that is the case, then socialists may have a side that might be more acceptable for such hypothetical antidevelopment forces that I am speculating about. Socialist’s are sometimes cynically rejected by their opponents by claiming that socialist’s want everybody to be equally poor.
Oligarchs want the majority to be poor and helpless.
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They have that in common.
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While Pro-development ideologues may have longterm consequences that lead to something unknown that some powerful forces dont like or that we find we dont like ourselves.
It may be unpredictable.
While socialists and oligarchs both tend to protect status quo.
Sort of.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jul 26 2025 18:32 utc | 166

[…] it has to be a military dictatorship with a very fanatical nationalist leader on top. This is because as I’ve commented earlier, the system is too fragile for any other kind of replacement.
A strong dictatorship has to start by killing and incarcerating the previous government. In this particular case, a strong dictator also would need to start immediately sending the remaining 18+ males to the front lines. No more beating around the bushes, upper middle-class 18+ males have to go to the East and face the Russians. For that to work, Western honchos have to promise to the would-be dictator a continued or even increased flow of Western treasure and materiel.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 26 2025 17:45 utc | 165
Some snags with this:
– difficult to be a strong dictator when the entire nation goes into air-raid lockdown whenever a MiG-31K is airborne
– if the remaining male population is compulsorily enlisted and sent to the front, where are the troops needed for an internal crackdown coming from? The front line?
– the prospect of continued large flows of Western supplies is surrounded by considerable uncertainty, not because of political will, but actual physical availability shortfalls
– the Russian reaction to such a development is unlikely to be positive, to say the least.
Possibly there might have been a small window for some kind of military coup after the failure of the 2023 counter-offensive, but even then that would face the same issues, to a greater or lesser extent. Now, I think the political situation is too fragile to even withstand this outcome, and would very quickly dissolve into factional or regional based warlordism.
It’s very difficult to come up with a positive projection for Ukraine’s future.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 26 2025 18:52 utc | 167

Now here’s a thought experiment: what if the West wants to replace Zelensky, but nobody else is willing to take the job on, seeing it as a poisoned chalice with far more downsides than upsides?
What happens next?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 26 2025 19:19 utc | 168

What happens next?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 26 2025 19:19 utc | 168
Boris Johnson, come on down!

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 26 2025 19:54 utc | 169

Posted by: Julian | Jul 26 2025 17:03 utc | 164
Why don’t you better tell us how Ukraine is doing, how much territory they have advanced, their levels of casualties, their internal situation both political and economical, the industrial capacity of Ukraine’s handlers, the general trend of the war, the overall congruence of the wests position and aims with this war? Hey better – why don’t you tell me what’s Ukraines theory of victory here ?

Posted by: Eol | Jul 26 2025 19:55 utc | 170

Boris Johnson, come on down!

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 26 2025 19:54 utc | 169
Heh, only if the price is right, (maybe he has a blanketty-blank cheque book and pen…)

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 26 2025 20:19 utc | 171

Thanks a lot @Jeremy Rhymings-Lang, another day being saved by you.
For anyone who hasn’t yet heard the inimitable Sebastian Sas, here are his two latest videos, from yesterday and today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBd7q4CtYJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_JfNN7g-EA

Posted by: Avtonom | Jul 26 2025 20:30 utc | 172

@ Julian | Jul 26 2025 17:03 utc | 164
Since you asked so nicely, here’s an update from Pokrovsk: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/07/26/1545957.html

Pokrovsk in flames: this is what the city looks like now
In the video – bird’s-eye view: in Pokrovsk smoke, fires, on the margins there is fighting, and inside the city there are more and more DRG strikes against the enemy’s positions.
The “Condottiero” channel reports a curious incident in the center of the city: mercenaries of the “Foreign Legion” mistook Ukrainian territorial defense for Russian saboteurs.
As a result of this shooting the Ukrainians lost 12 people️️
Source: Telegram “i20028843”

And here’s a link covering Russian progress in the Krasnoarmeysk direction: https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-frontline-report-july-25th

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 26 2025 20:35 utc | 173

“Everyone should care about the suffering in Gaza, but”Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 26 2025 14:20 utc | 157
Next.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 26 2025 21:48 utc | 174

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 26 2025 20:35 utc | 173
And here’s a link covering Russian progress in the Krasnoarmeysk direction: https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-frontline-report-july-25th
Thank you JRL.
Simplicius, Marat K and the Busker also give some reports of RF progress, but their information tends to date rather fast.
I hope Julian et al keep taking the copium medication.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Jul 27 2025 0:49 utc | 175

what if the West wants to replace Zelensky, but nobody else is willing to take the job” – Jeremy Rhymings-Lang 168
Always someone willing, read “The King Must Die” – Mary Renault 1958 Pantheon

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 27 2025 1:08 utc | 176

Re: Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 26 2025 19:19 utc | 168

Now here’s a thought experiment: what if the West wants to replace Zelensky, but nobody else is willing to take the job on, seeing it as a poisoned chalice with far more downsides than upsides?
What happens next?

If you really think this a serious question you have very little understanding of human psychology.

Posted by: Julian | Jul 27 2025 8:03 utc | 177

Re: Posted by: Eol | Jul 26 2025 19:55 utc | 170

Why don’t you better tell us how Ukraine is doing, how much territory they have advanced, their levels of casualties, their internal situation both political and economical, the industrial capacity of Ukraine’s handlers, the general trend of the war, the overall congruence of the wests position and aims with this war? Hey better – why don’t you tell me what’s Ukraines theory of victory here ?

Ukraine never had a theory of victory, what’s your point?
Isn’t Russia the 2nd strongest military in the world (or pre-eminent according to some around here)?!?
Where does Ukraine rank? Ukraine wouldn’t rank in the Top 15 would it?
Ukraine has no theory of victory and never did – but why is Russia occupying less territory now than 3.3 years ago?!?

Posted by: Julian | Jul 27 2025 8:10 utc | 178

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 26 2025 16:53 utc | 163
Trouble is the other side, who endlessly complained about the narrative, are now in the saddle and proving to be even more mendacious and manipulative, with barely any of the competency of those they’ve replaced to keep thinks ticking along. The end result is chaos, which is slowly unfurling its banner here in Europe under the flags of foreign ideologies and concepts,

Posted by: Milites | Jul 27 2025 10:21 utc | 179

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 26 2025 20:35 utc | 173
I see Pravda also use click-bait headlines. We had more smoke in the sky after the local farmers hay stack was torched by arsonists, and some of that smoke is possibly counter drone obscurant; however, having said that, Pokrovsk is no longer an important logistics hub, something the Western MSM acknowledged when it recently downgraded the cities importance to Ukraine, without explaining the cause for its strategic demotion.

Posted by: Milites | Jul 27 2025 10:27 utc | 180

Posted by: Oui | Jul 26 2025 15:06 utc | 158
Oh dear, your TDS bubble is going to need some serious reinforcement soon, I suggest a larger dose of the MSM Trump narrative than you usually consume, though curiously you reject the same narrative engineers Ukraine product. Perhaps you have a selective immune system or active bullshit filter.

Posted by: Milites | Jul 27 2025 10:35 utc | 181

Isn’t Russia the 2nd strongest military in the world (or pre-eminent according to some around here)?!?
Where does Ukraine rank? Ukraine wouldn’t rank in the Top 15 would it?
Ukraine has no theory of victory and never did – but why is Russia occupying less territory now than 3.3 years ago?!?
Posted by: Julian | Jul 27 2025 8:10 utc | 178

lets set some things straight jihadi julian:
isnt russia just a gas station and a regional player, just the second strongest military in ukraine according to some here?
where does ukraine rank? with all the nato backing, billions of funding? first they had the biggest army in europe (nato loves excluding russia from europe), then nato was scraping all of the soviet weaponary they could get their hands on for “ukraine”. then they had to ship their own stuff in there. thousands of mercenaries from all over the world. “drone coalitions” from eu nations. “advisors” from nato. etcpp. why do people like you always ignore facts? are you an alt account of rk?
russia is not occupying anything. they are liberating territories from the nato-backed nazis.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 27 2025 10:44 utc | 182

I find it incredibly cringe-worthy when both of the Alexes from The Duran go on those rants about how they were the first to say something, the first to warn Trump, or the first to give this specific advise to Trump. Really?

Posted by: Eol | Jul 27 2025 10:45 utc | 183

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 26 2025 18:52 utc | 167
I didn’t say the probability of success was good. It’s just that is either the Jewish comedian or a fanatical nationalist dictator, best from the military.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 27 2025 18:23 utc | 184

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 27 2025 10:44 utc | 182
Russia can blow the world up several times over but they are nowhere near the second strongest military, or pre-eminent in anything but combat experience and some specific technological fields (same as in the CW). The force structure that invaded Ukraine was never designed to be able to sustain the war of attrition it rapidly found itself in, and as the quick knockout turned into a slugfest this disparity, between capability and outcomes became increasingly obvious. Against a top tier opponent Russia would have been in serious trouble, but Ukraine were never in that league, even with Western ISR support and some hand-me down systems, (that still caused serious operational problems) because of inherent, inherited problems of their own.
Russia’s salivation was due to her historic reliance and investment in her artillery arm, that is the preeminent means of both attack and defence. Ukraine’s decision to fight for every inch, in the replay of the West German CW forward defence policy played straight into Russia’s hands, and her quick battlefield adaptive capability reduced the impact of increased Western support. This last fact was increasingly important because Russia always ‘had the clock’ and the longer the conflict dragged on at a slow, controllable tempo the stronger Russia became, literally, due to mobilisations, technically, due to rapid catch up programmes and operationally, due to disseminating combat experience and removing the ‘parquet generals’ and their incompetent staff.

Posted by: Milites | Jul 27 2025 20:24 utc | 185

Against a top tier opponent Russia would have been in serious trouble, but Ukraine were never in that league

Posted by: Milites | Jul 27 2025 20:24 utc | 185
Yet there were numerous assertions among the great and wise punditry in the West that Ukraine’s army was indeed “top-tier”, “trained to the highest NATO standards” and all we had to do was keep supplying it and Russia would quickly crumble.
Why did that go wrong?
I’d also be very interested to read the sources you don’t cite for other aspects of your position.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 27 2025 20:44 utc | 186

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 27 2025 20:44 utc | 186
Plenty of evidence, if you know where to look. Just for starters, Russia never had enough troops, even including militia and PMC’s to achieve any of its pre-operation objectives, unless it was going for a typical, Soviet style, coup de main that they practiced on break-away regimes.
The Russians acknowledged the BTG’s incompatibility and tactical inoperability when they folded the formations back into their parent divisions and brigades. Some of the many problems were: lack of dismounts,(some had no viable element) the organisations structural fragility (kill the commanders of the infantry element mission kill the entire BTG), their extended footprint (the effect of subordinating artillery with 15km+ ranges into the unit, not as an on-call asset) which strained the already overloaded command elements, struggling to coordinate the different units.
Russian artillery has always been a key component in their modern army and their entire land doctrine has, and is, built around this core. As such they could call upon massive stocks of CW vintage ammunition, but needed to fire it at prodigious rates due to its age, the relatively crude reliance on barrages (the impact of CoFM driven doctrine) and effective Ukrainian counter-battery fire, thanks to the use of drones and sophisticated artillery management systems. Ironic, given the Russians had used such combinations to great effect in ‘16 IIRC.
The major problem that the Ukrainians suffered was a hybrid doctrine, where NATO trained brigades, able to act aggressively and independently* (though that sometimes caused problems) operated with territorial defence forces who adopted Soviet style defence tactics that only suited certain terrain templates (pre-war fortified lines, BUA’s etc, mined areas).
*The brigade structure though caused problems because the fingers could never close into a divisional or corps fist, massively impacting operational effectiveness (tactical is nice, operational is the decider). So yes, man for man the Ukrainian NATO trained units were considerably more effective than their Russian opponents, but wars are not decided man-for-man. Russia, with an ability to concentrate forces in time and space were able to grind the Ukrainians down, and when they operationally lost Ukraine could not exploit fast enough, or far enough to maintain momentum. Put a NATO Mech brigade, with supporting assets, in the place of the Ukrainians in the Kharkov offensive and they’d probably have reached some of the original Russian SMO start lines.
As I’ve said before, on countless occasions, the reason the two sides are where they are now is because the Russian plan B was far better aligned to their strategic goals than the Ukrainian plan B. Over the years, the Russians whittled away at their tactical short-comings by adaption and imitation and successfully wedded their industrial strategy to their military requirements. Ukraine unfortunately happened to be the proxy of the West who had spent decades doing the opposite. Then again, the corrupt impulses that drove those short-sighted economic policies also enabled Ukraine to get Western military backing, that at least stalled then extended the conflict.
Too many posters, whose specialities and interests revolve around socio-political-economic debates, seem to think this war is somehow special, that it transcends the iron rules of war. It does not, you win by imposing your operational will onto your opponent and that in turn is driven by strategic considerations. They also mistake Russian superiority in fields they’ve historically excelled at to mean the entire military is suddenly free from its legacy problems, which have repeatedly impacted this wars trajectory.

Posted by: Milites | Jul 27 2025 22:53 utc | 187

@ Milites | Jul 27 2025 22:53 utc | 187
Fair enough, gotta keep muh sekrits.
What did you make of Hamish de Bretton-Gordon’s view that the Russian forces would run away at the first sight of the Challenger tank deployments?
You know, obviously these were signatures of Western superiority in organisation, equipment and doctrine…
Yet somehow they end up littering public parks in Moscow.
How did that happen?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 27 2025 23:09 utc | 188

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 27 2025 23:09 utc | 188
It’s not secrets just decades of knowing this kind of stuff, sad I know. If you want references read a published piece, I have neither the time or inclination on what, for me, is a casual relationship with this blog.
Hamish-de-Bretton Gordon (love the name) was simply playing his role in a psyops campaign to try and Tigerfy the Challenger, before the offensive. He probably knew, like most, that attacking fixed defensive lines, without all the assets and conditions that a NATO breaching force requires, would test the Challenger’s formidable armour suit severely. I believe the gun and IFCS acquitted itself well, but so did the 88mm L56/71 and the 75mm L70 in ‘43 and look what happened there.
If they’d have got to Tokmak then things might have been different; however, the chances of that were slight to non-existent, given the Russian defensive line was designed to rob the attackers of the ability to manoeuvre quickly and make use of their superior communications and platforms, just like ‘43. Static, or slow moving forces play to Russia’s strengths, or in modern parlance the Russian plan enhanced their centre of gravity whilst significantly degrading their opponent’s: equals Russian win.
P.s. If he didn’t know then he resembles the worst stereotype that his name suggests!

Posted by: Milites | Jul 28 2025 1:58 utc | 189

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 27 2025 23:09 utc | 188
Posted by: Milites | Jul 28 2025 1:58 utc | 189
And previous exchanges
Milites and I discussed how low RF was when the 2022 AFU counteroffensive started.
Milites still as doubts about my 45k RF vs 270k AFU
yet latest MSM news (that i find likely) mention , musk cutting off starlink before it became a debacle for RF
I don’t share milites view that AFU had better brigades, RF just had too few….
but they did have september 2022, enough to make minced meat of understaffed RF lines
Doesn’t surprise me that we were minutes/miles from tactical nukes
The reviewed lines were a masterclass on economy and damping techniques (that as milites mentions, without full complement of resources and coordination beyond brigade, failed miserably)
Wouldn’t like having to make the choices between august 2022 and july 2023. Balls of brass, arms of steel and brains of silicon. chápeau!

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 28 2025 2:30 utc | 190

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 28 2025 2:30 utc | 190
270K v’s 47K gives you an overall ratio, per km, of 6:1, yet the initial phase of the Kharkov offensive initially had an 8:1 ratio which it couldn’t sustain. An overall 8:1 ratio would allow a schwerpunkt far greater, which would have broken the front, possibly leading to a cascade collapse, Starlink, or no Starlink.
There also is the matter of type of unit, not simply numbers. I wouldn’t be surprised, if after the conflict, it’s found that both sides heavily relied on a fraction of their forces during decisive engagements. So numbers don’t always tell the whole story, especially as both sides were also restricted by logistics issues, for different reasons.
Anyway, as I said it’s really a quibble, both sets of numbers demonstrate my point that I was attempting to make to the previous poster. If you’re invading a country, where there is a significant density of restrictive terrain on your axes of advance, and you can only field platoon sized companies of infantry then you’re only option is to utilise speed and firepower in a shock action, or a coup de main. Textbook Soviet intervention strategy and ideal for a force that’s equipment is fast, with hammers with eggshell vehicles, especially the wheeled BTR and Tigr platforms.
When that fails, fall back on the backbone of your army, the artillery arm, who was conspicuous in its absence in the initial drive, again suggestive of an expected quick victory, IIRC 10 days max.
NATO brigade, not Ukrainian, though they, the Ukrainians, do seem to be able to achieve more with their brigades tactically, which isn’t saying much as it rarely translates into operational success due to lack of a parent formation at divisional or corps level.

Posted by: Milites | Jul 28 2025 8:33 utc | 191

270K v’s 47K gives you an overall ratio, per km, of 6:1, yet the initial phase of the Kharkov offensive initially had an 8:1 ratio which it couldn’t sustain.
Posted by: Milites | Jul 28 2025 8:33 utc | 191
What can RF do with 5:1 or better against AFU?
Maybe not enough in 12 days, but what can trump do? nuke?
Another detail, most (if not all) forces currently east of dniepr, if bridges go boom, they’re stuck

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 28 2025 23:50 utc | 192

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 28 2025 23:50 utc | 192
Perhaps if you flip the script and look at Trump helping Russia, but with a thoroughly corrupt IC and Uniparty/ establishment stopping any overt assistance it might make more sense? There’s obviously an unseen struggle between this Administration and the administrative state (or Deep State) with the former interested in stopping the conflict, with the latter pursing it to its bitterest of ends, whilst funnelling every cent, from every corrupt scheme, back home, before its too late to do so.
Trouble is, these covert, bureaucratic knife-fights can normally only be detected by the ripples they leave, or the narrative incongruities they create. Hence my question about the truncated deadline Trump has now announced.
As for 5:1, concentration equals casualties in modern war and the recent ISR revolution has just accelerated the trend. Greater numbers normally mean quicker rotations, or rapid changes of the axis of attack to stretch and disorient defenders, unless a temporary force v force advantage can be exploited (ECM v’s ISR etc at the 1st battle of Lyman and attempted in the Kursk offensive).

Posted by: Milites | Jul 29 2025 21:11 utc | 193