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July 30, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-171
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Posted by: Naive | Jul 30 2025 20:45 utc | 39 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jul 31 2025 9:03 utc | 101 JamesBond | 94 Posted by: SOS | Jul 31 2025 9:03 utc | 102 This needs to be more widely known. Posted by: comment | Jul 31 2025 9:06 utc | 103 Posted by: I forgot | Jul 31 2025 6:04 utc | 87 Posted by: Milites | Jul 31 2025 9:22 utc | 104 Posted by: George | Jul 31 2025 2:24 utc | 70 IRT snake | Jul 31 2025 2:18 utc | 69 Posted by: snake | Jul 31 2025 9:31 utc | 105 @102, Posted by: JamesBond | Jul 31 2025 9:37 utc | 106 Posted by: Beobachter II | Jul 31 2025 7:55 utc | 90 Posted by: Milites | Jul 31 2025 9:50 utc | 107 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 30 2025 17:47 utc | 14 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 31 2025 10:05 utc | 108 @107, Posted by: JamesBond | Jul 31 2025 10:09 utc | 109 @ SOS, §100: Posted by: John Marks | Jul 31 2025 10:12 utc | 110
Correct. That’s why I’ve been saying any replacement has to be a super fanatical fascist dictator, brought to power in a classic military coup, and which will start by killing and imprisoning the current admin and then sending all remaining males to the Eastern Fronts. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 31 2025 10:16 utc | 111 comment | Jul 31 2025 9:06 utc | 103 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jul 31 2025 10:24 utc | 112 Key Ukrainian defense position on high ground … Posted by: Milites | Jul 30 2025 21:17 utc | 44 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 31 2025 10:54 utc | 114 So it seems the rumours of the daring raid on Odessa by RF special forces killed guards and captured U.K. and Intelligence personnel who have been directing the U.K. illegal warmaking there. It also seems the tunnel via Poland through which Germany and Europe was supplying armaments and personnel – was destroyed with much of the meteriel. Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 31 2025 11:06 utc | 115 Posted by: snake | Jul 31 2025 9:31 utc | 105 Posted by: George | Jul 31 2025 11:31 utc | 116 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 31 2025 10:54 utc | 113 Posted by: Milites | Jul 31 2025 11:36 utc | 117 Jams O’Donnell@101 Posted by: ArmChairGeneral | Jul 31 2025 11:39 utc | 118 Posted by: Milites | Jul 31 2025 9:22 utc | 104 Posted by: Robert Smith | Jul 31 2025 11:58 utc | 119 @ milites Posted by: I forgot | Jul 31 2025 12:16 utc | 120 I haven’t check in in a while but I’ll stop by for a beer and raise my glass to the liberation of Chasov Yar! Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 31 2025 12:21 utc | 121 Posted by: Milites | Jul 30 2025 21:17 utc | 44 Posted by: Newbie | Jul 31 2025 12:22 utc | 122 Russia could accelerate this by offering cooperation to Poland & Rumania in “solving the Ukraine problem”. This holds out the prospect of a return of Galicia to Poland and of Bessarabia to Rumania. Posted by: rk | Jul 31 2025 12:41 utc | 123
stop crying about russian statements. Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 31 2025 12:57 utc | 124 Victor Orban should go for broke and invade Western Ukraine now while they’re weak. Use the Right to Protect justification. Many ethnic Hungarians being persecuted by the Nazis and press ganged. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jul 31 2025 13:00 utc | 125
the question is, can nato members aside from the us/uk even independently engage in military actions against other states without nato consent, ie blessing from their american bosses? Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 31 2025 13:05 utc | 126 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jul 31 2025 12:21 utc | 120 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Jul 31 2025 13:10 utc | 127 @Justpassinby – Of course they can. Orban commands the military. Send in the tanks. Ursula doesn’t get a vote, and NATO can rage all they want but they’d be fucked. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jul 31 2025 13:13 utc | 128 Re “gender-bending” propaganda, Nato countries used it not just within the USA/EU for red/blue debate but to also instill anger in the blues for Russia and other “traditional” nations. USA/EU propaganda tells consumers the enemies are populated by backward anti-gay people. Some of them are. Some just don’t want it “visible”. And some just don’t want their nation turning into a place where “male athletes beat up women and use their bathrooms” and “quack doctors make life-altering operations on minors”. Posted by: I forgot | Jul 31 2025 13:36 utc | 129 “IOT(In order to) educate the voting public it is necessary to provide voters with easy access to the information appropriate to developing understanding. The problem is the deep state owns, controls and manipulates the information environment; voters are allowed to engage with and see only that which the deep state wants them to see.” Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 31 2025 14:15 utc | 130 Over night strike on Ukraine said to be successful. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 31 2025 14:15 utc | 131 A straight-shooter explains the reality on the ground in Brussels and Kyiv.
■ Rogue 4 Star General Donahue boasts of taking Kaliningrad ■ US boots on the ground ■ EU elites and VDL deal w Trump is to preserve unity for war on Russia ■ Remain in power as rebellion is brewing in the West ■ The US-EU “trade deal” was a non-event Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 31 2025 11:06 utc | 114 Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 31 2025 14:27 utc | 133 Trump is a low IQ individual who only cares that US maintain its hegemony without caring one bit about others Posted by: Markw | Jul 31 2025 14:32 utc | 134 Johan Kaspar @ 108 Posted by: oldhippie | Jul 31 2025 14:36 utc | 135 On a 1:1 basis, both the US/EU and RU/CN have large numbers of high IQ jewish Posted by: SB | Jul 31 2025 14:58 utc | 136 @134, Posted by: JamesBond | Jul 31 2025 14:58 utc | 137 Re: Posted by: Oui | Jul 30 2025 14:43 utc | 1
This is absolutely insane. Posted by: Julian | Jul 31 2025 15:12 utc | 138 Posted by: I forgot | Jul 31 2025 13:36 utc | 128 Posted by: Milites | Jul 31 2025 15:24 utc | 139 @Paranaense | Thu, 31 Jul 2025 14:27:00 GMT | 133
Vladimir Brovkin video (18mins) Posted by: persiflo | Jul 31 2025 15:46 utc | 140 See, this is where MoA fails (badly) – it’s simply yet another church with its own rigid dogma rather than a virtual think tank considering all information and options. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 31 2025 15:47 utc | 141 “Hectoring others for not meeting your desires is”Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 31 2025 15:47 utc | 141 Posted by: Laurence | Jul 31 2025 16:28 utc | 142 It seems like after the Pokrovsk area is liberated that the RF is making a serious push towards the Kharkov/Lyman/Izyum area to the North. This might be a feint, but who knows. Posted by: Newbie | Jul 31 2025 17:09 utc | 143 Posted by: persiflo | Jul 31 2025 15:46 utc | 140 Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 31 2025 17:34 utc | 144 Not sure when this happened. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 31 2025 18:44 utc | 145 YetAnotherAnon | Jul 31 2025 10:24 utc | 112 Posted by: Cynic | Jul 31 2025 18:58 utc | 146 Posted by: Milites | Jul 31 2025 15:24 utc | 139 Posted by: The Poor Sookums | Jul 31 2025 23:12 utc | 147 Bipartisan Pair of Senators Seeks $54.6 Billion in New Aid for Ukraine Posted by: Vaspour | Jul 31 2025 23:14 utc | 148 Posted by: Newbie | Jul 31 2025 17:09 utc | 143 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 1 2025 2:18 utc | 149 The SVO is not popular in Russia, no matter what Kremlin shills tell you. Instead of reading fairy tales about 86% approval ratings for Putin, look at the hard reality of how much the Kremlin has to pay to get its next batch of fertilizer to lay down in Ukraine. The prices of recruits have increased dramatically and now offer more than well-paying jobs. Provided you survive, of course. Which they don’t mention during recruitment drives. Posted by: Branislav Slantchev | Aug 1 2025 6:09 utc | 150
Not true. Remaining young females (15-49 yr old) are 7-8 millions. Some of them may run to the EU once the Russian cross the river but millions will remain. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 1 2025 6:12 utc | 151 Posted by: Branislav Slantchev | Aug 1 2025 6:09 utc | 150 Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 1 2025 7:57 utc | 152 The results are in! With yesterdays 430 confirmed KIA, July 2025 officially becomes statistically the WORST month in the history of the SMO in terms of deaths. But please everyone! Keep letting random grifters who’ve never set foot in Russia tell you how well everything is going! Posted by: Кельт | Aug 1 2025 9:09 utc | 153 Posted by: Milites | Jul 31 2025 11:36 utc | 117 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 1 2025 9:11 utc | 154 Not sure when this happened. Posted by: rk | Aug 1 2025 9:29 utc | 155 The Russian MoD is a corrupted incompetent slow ministry. I am not even sure the so-called “war of attrition” can really deplete Ukrainian manpower. At the end of the day, it’s a 2-digit million country. If all Ukrainian men die, will Indians replace them when/if Russia win? Posted by: fancemon | Aug 1 2025 9:31 utc | 156 Posted by: fancemon | Aug 1 2025 9:31 utc | 156 Posted by: scc | Aug 1 2025 11:21 utc | 157 Posted by: scc | Aug 1 2025 11:21 utc | 157 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 1 2025 12:42 utc | 158 Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, August 1st 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-be0 Posted by: The Busker | Aug 1 2025 13:06 utc | 159
Nonsense. There is no unity at this bar, save for the common thread of logic and reason that unites all of humanity – whether they will it or not. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 1 2025 18:18 utc | 160 WWIII goes social, with Dmitry Medvedev as RF’s tweeter-in-chief. If DJT wants to play internet insult-contest (thing-wagging with nuclear subs!) Medvedev is totally ready:
Trump:
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 1 2025 19:14 utc | 161 @ Doctor Eleven, §160: Posted by: John Marks | Aug 1 2025 19:17 utc | 162 Folks, hold onto your asses. Trump – the daddy god-emperor of mankind and Americas savior in chief – has taken us to DEFCOPE 1. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 1 2025 19:19 utc | 163 I doubt Trump and his minions such as Starmer and Merz, will like this – maybe this the real reason Trump has deployed two nuclear subs. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 1 2025 19:56 utc | 164 I doubt Trump and his minions such as Starmer and Merz, will like this – maybe this the real reason Trump has deployed two nuclear subs. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 1 2025 20:05 utc | 165 He said submarines, not the invisible planes that went to Iran, because he thinks no one knows where they are. You can’t see what is under water!! And 2 because Russia is so weak 2 is enough. Posted by: rk | Aug 1 2025 20:42 utc | 166 Y’all might be interested in hearing more about this: Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 1 2025 21:19 utc | 167 From Slavyangrad: Posted by: NoName | Aug 1 2025 21:57 utc | 168 @168 Posted by: paddy | Aug 1 2025 22:14 utc | 169 @167 Posted by: paddy | Aug 1 2025 22:22 utc | 170 NoName@168…..and if he’s right, then what? 112k dead Russians, entirely plausible, 10:1 against over one million dead Ukies and that’s me being extremely generous, I personally believe Russian KIA as being higher, still running 10:1 against Ukie with Ukie topping out close to 2 million dead by now…..like it matters though…. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 2 2025 0:14 utc | 171 NoName@168…..and if he’s right, then what? 112k dead Russians, entirely plausible, 10:1 against over one million dead Ukies and that’s me being extremely generous, I personally believe Russian KIA as being higher, still running 10:1 against Ukie with Ukie topping out close to 2 million dead by now…..like it matters though…. Posted by: NoName | Aug 2 2025 0:19 utc | 172 Posted by: John Marks | Aug 1 2025 19:17 utc | 162 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 2 2025 0:37 utc | 173 “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 2 2025 1:05 utc | 174 So we have: Posted by: Nobody Special | Aug 2 2025 1:37 utc | 175 Posted by: Nobody Special | Aug 2 2025 1:37 utc | 175 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 2 2025 3:47 utc | 176 Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 1 2025 19:19 utc | 163 Posted by: Paranaense | Aug 2 2025 4:23 utc | 177 @ Paranaense | Aug 2 2025 4:23 utc | 179 with speculation about the sub situation.
The pundits are saying that we are closer to nuke use than last November when Biden was steering us there….threatening with nukes based on a warning tweet is beyond puerile and bordering on demented. Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 2 2025 4:37 utc | 178 “In order to solve the issue in a peaceful way, we need deep conversations, not in public, but in the silence of a negotiating process.” Posted by: Laurence | Aug 2 2025 4:49 utc | 179 That would explain how these direct Russian attacks on NATO personnel and equipment are coming so fast and furious. Posted by: rk | Aug 2 2025 5:50 utc | 180 @ Barrel Brown, § 176: Posted by: John Marks | Aug 2 2025 10:04 utc | 181 Trump was in part elected because he promised to bury the hatchet with Russia… Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 2 2025 10:39 utc | 182 “That’s my layman’s guess.” Posted by: Thomas | Aug 2 2025 10:49 utc | 183 Posted by: John Marks | Aug 2 2025 10:04 utc | 181 Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 2 2025 11:44 utc | 184 Posted by: Nobody Special | Aug 2 2025 1:37 utc | 175 Posted by: dadooronron | Aug 2 2025 11:51 utc | 185 Let’s discuss AFU casualties Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2025 11:57 utc | 186 Nuke subs do not appear at the designated positions the moment they are ordered to go there. It takes time, perhaps several days, for them to arrive at location. Furthermore, if, as Nobody Special @175 above posits, NATO is preparing a major operation, then preparations began many months to years ago. The nuke subs would have received their assignments long before Trump made his announcement. Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 2 2025 12:49 utc | 187 Posted by: Laurence | Aug 2 2025 4:49 utc | 179 Posted by: Paranaense | Aug 2 2025 13:54 utc | 188 @ William Gruff Posted by: Richard L | Aug 2 2025 14:10 utc | 189 1.250 AFU casualties Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2025 14:18 utc | 190 @ Nobody Special | Aug 2 2025 1:37 utc | 175 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 2 2025 14:25 utc | 191 Can trump order a nuclear hit on Russia without Congress approval when no war is yet declared? Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 2 2025 14:41 utc | 192 i hope the brits are ready for what is eventually coming home to roost:
after all, it was the brits who came up with these kamikaze boats. oh sorry, i meant “ukraine”. Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 2 2025 15:00 utc | 193
so after the “sanctions from hell”(c)(tm), how will they call these? Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 2 2025 15:02 utc | 194 Tempers continue to fray:
https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/08/02/1562580.html
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 2 2025 15:21 utc | 195 article from yalensis at awful avalanche – Posted by: james | Aug 2 2025 15:25 utc | 196 @ LoveDonbass Posted by: Richard L | Aug 2 2025 15:30 utc | 197 Apparently “to warn” Russia of the Deep State’s real intent… 🙄
Eat it. Posted by: Laurence | Aug 2 2025 16:37 utc | 198 Aleph_Null @191: “…the whole Medvedev kerfuffle could be a massive mind-fuck, just to own the libtards or something…” Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 2 2025 17:07 utc | 199 Commentary from the Ukrainian side on the disturbances in Vinnytsia:
https://regionews.ua/ukr/blog/aleksey-goncharenko/1754142322-te-shcho-stalosya-u-vinnitsi—tse-virok-vladi (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 2 2025 18:46 utc | 200 |
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