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July 23, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-165
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Sticking my neck out here, but I think the current protests over the changes to the legislation governing the organisation of anti-corruption bodies will fizzle out; without backing from the Nazi paramilitary factions or the conventional armed forces (both of whom have got their snouts deep in the trough of corruption) the protests won’t last. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 16:52 utc | 1 Algorithmic pattern recognition(with a warning to the faithful) … Posted by: Laurence | Jul 23 2025 16:54 utc | 2 I can’t help noticing how young the protestors in Ukraine are; so far, I haven’t seen a single photo depicting 60+ citizens. I suppose one explanation might be that such events are too physical for the older generation, but still, I wonder if there’s a better explanation. Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 23 2025 17:04 utc | 3 The Kiev protests against corruption indicate the U.S. wants to get rid of Zelenski. Posted by: Passerby | Jul 23 2025 17:05 utc | 4 Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 23 2025 17:04 utc | 3 Posted by: Passerby | Jul 23 2025 17:10 utc | 5 Oh c’mon Laurence…., was it really necessary to mention the Toronto Maple Leafs…,have some compassion…, they have suffered enough 🙂 Posted by: ScreamingMonk | Jul 23 2025 17:15 utc | 6 I seldom feel the urge to drop-kick people into the shit-list 😀 Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 23 2025 17:20 utc | 7 Posted by: Passerby | Jul 23 2025 17:05 utc | 4 Posted by: Night Tripper | Jul 23 2025 17:22 utc | 8
Posted by: Passerby | Jul 23 2025 17:05 utc | 4 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 17:24 utc | 9 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 17:24 utc | 9 Posted by: Night Tripper | Jul 23 2025 17:25 utc | 10 “Anonymous” ( Jul 23 2025 17:04 utc | 3 ): Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 23 2025 17:27 utc | 11 Oh c’mon Laurence…., was it really necessary to mention the Toronto Maple Leafs…,have some compassion…, they have suffered enough 🙂
RIP Edmonton Oilers KIA. And that too, is war. Posted by: Laurence | Jul 23 2025 17:33 utc | 12
Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 23 2025 17:04 utc | 3 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 17:34 utc | 13
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/ukraine/1753288042-zelenskiy-pislya-mitingiv-zrobiv-zayavu-pro-nabu-i-sap-shcho-obitsyae-prezident (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 17:42 utc | 14 The Perimeter System Exists to This Day and is on Alert. Posted by: pepe | Jul 23 2025 17:46 utc | 15
Posted by: Night Tripper | Jul 23 2025 17:25 utc | 10 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 17:57 utc | 16
Posted by: Night Tripper | Jul 23 2025 17:25 utc | 10 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 17:57 utc | 17 Now how in the world did that double post happen? I only clicked “Post” once, after a preview. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 18:25 utc | 18 DW John Helmer Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 23 2025 18:37 utc | 19 I simply don’t believe the Ukros are going to Istanbul voluntarily.
There are no peace negotiations … just kabuki theatre … the goal of the coalition of the willing to send so-called peacekeepers by a ceasefire agreement … that will never happen … all that rests is exchange of prisoners and the discuss UA narrative of “kidnapped” children. Posted by: Urban Fox | Jul 23 2025 18:52 utc | 21 Anonymous @3: “I can’t help noticing how young the protestors in Ukraine are…but still, I wonder if there’s a better explanation.” Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 23 2025 18:58 utc | 22 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 18:25 utc | 18
Argumentum ad absurdum. Et cetera & et cetera. Posted by: Laurence | Jul 23 2025 18:58 utc | 23 Jeremy Rhymings-Lang @18: “Now how in the world did that double post happen?” Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 23 2025 19:04 utc | 24 The real rebellion is brewing out in the sticks, as indicated here: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/07/23/1538187.html , a 2-minute video clip of villagers haranguing, harassing, pushing and shoving a TCC/police press-gang operation. Not the first time such footage has emerged. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 23 2025 19:09 utc | 25 The negotiations in Turkiye are merely a result of the US circus about “ending the war” from months ago, where they started to act as a “mediator”. Posted by: boneless | Jul 23 2025 19:18 utc | 26 Seems like the way for the Ukrainian side to get their respite of a temporary ceasefire would be to accept the earlier Russian offer to let Ukrainian forces withdraw from the Donbas peacefully — provided that includes also stopping Russian drone/missile attacks. Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Jul 23 2025 19:26 utc | 27 The Kiev protests against corruption indicate the U.S. wants to get rid of Zelenski. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jul 23 2025 19:36 utc | 28 there is absolutely nothing organic about these protests. after 3 years of being thrown in vans there hasnt been a protest 1/10th that size, but suddenly all these people are activated.. what Posted by: Clown Fatigue | Jul 23 2025 19:45 utc | 29
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 23 2025 19:09 utc | 25 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 19:45 utc | 30 there is absolutely nothing organic about these protests. after 3 years of being thrown in vans there hasnt been a protest 1/10th that size, but suddenly all these people are activated.. what Posted by: Clown Fatigue | Jul 23 2025 19:59 utc | 31 The point remains, whoever the West seeks to replace him with will need the backing of the armed forces and Nazi paramilitaries. Posted by: BlindSpot | Jul 23 2025 20:04 utc | 32 suddenly all these people are activated Posted by: rk | Jul 23 2025 20:08 utc | 33 Jeremy Rhymings-Lang @30: “…a sign I’m keeping an eye out for is news of a press-gang/police operation being directly shot at by local civilians.” Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 23 2025 20:10 utc | 34 Of course the “protests” are not organic. No one thinks that the anti-corruption agency set up by Biden and gang does anything about corruption. I’m surprised that Nuland isn’t out there handing out cookies. Posted by: wagelaborer | Jul 23 2025 20:11 utc | 35 Well, well, well, look who the cat just dragged in! Long time, no see! Deep State’s km² counter has been steadily ticking upwards lately, fortunately @Newbie has ably stepped up to provide the bulletins you used to be so fastidious about providing. Posted by: Newbie | Jul 23 2025 20:17 utc | 36 Actually, the fact that the TCC is not out rounding up protesters for the front is a Big Clue that this is a US sponsored color revolution. They must have been told by someone above Zelensky to stand down. Posted by: wagelaborer | Jul 23 2025 20:21 utc | 37 Posted by: wagelaborer | Jul 23 2025 20:21 utc | 37 Posted by: UWDude | Jul 23 2025 20:39 utc | 38 @Clown Fatigue | Jul 23 2025 19:45 utc | 29
Agreed, not to mention the ~1 million ‘missing’. What happens now is not organic. Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 23 2025 20:43 utc | 39 Posted by: UWDude | Jul 23 2025 20:39 utc | 38 Posted by: UWDude | Jul 23 2025 20:43 utc | 40 @Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 17:42 utc | 14
I guess that is why the Banderite Zaluzhny has undergone training in the UK for ~18 months. Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 23 2025 20:48 utc | 42 Ukraine chooses to get beaten -up some more; peace talks end only after half hour….Hal Turner Radio Show. Not sure if this has been posted earlier, but it is Maria Zakharova responding to a question about future Russia-Germany relations. VERY powerful Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 23 2025 21:11 utc | 44 my wife asked about those “protests” and if those people are just been placed near some “sensitive” buildings that house workshops or other nazi/nato surprises, so that they act as a form of human shield so that russia is not destroying that. not sure what to say, the thought sure has some merit to it but i doubt those “protesters” are there at night when those sites are usually hit. Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 23 2025 21:14 utc | 45 Istanbul or “Constant in hopeful”:
https://en.topwar.ru/268545-pozicii-storon-slishkom-daleki-drug-ot-druga-v-stambule-zavershilsja-tretij-raund-peregovorov-rossijskoj-i-ukrainskoj-delegacij.html Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 21:14 utc | 46
Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 23 2025 20:10 utc | 34 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 21:39 utc | 47 ‼️🇺🇸🏴☠️🇺🇦🇩🇪 The US has approved the sale to Ukraine of equipment for repairing Bradley IFVs, as well as HAWK Phase III SAM systems worth $322 million — Pentagon Posted by: Jo | Jul 23 2025 21:42 utc | 48 hmmm panic panic 🇺🇦🇩🇪German foreign minister rushed to Kiev to meet the anti corruption heads. Posted by: Jo | Jul 23 2025 21:45 utc | 49 I think Mercouris plainly lays it out. The whole protest/corruption thing in Ukraine is garbage. Small protests, the Rada supports the corruption, there’s NO evidence of any potential overthrow of Zelensky, it’s all nonsense. Some in the West increase their support, regardless of obvious corruption, it means nothing. Zelensky stays in control, period – even to continue after a Ukraine collapse. The Hersh stuff is crap. Posted by: Eighthman | Jul 23 2025 21:51 utc | 50 The Hague District Court lifted the seizure of Gazprom’s assets in the Netherlands — Reuters Posted by: Ko | Jul 23 2025 21:55 utc | 51 Ukraine will not receive new Patriot systems until the end of 2025 – spring 2026. Posted by: Jo | Jul 23 2025 22:00 utc | 52 Re: Patriots Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jul 23 2025 22:47 utc | 53 Third Round of Russia-Ukraine Peace Talks Wraps Up Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 23 2025 22:51 utc | 54 Dear Anonymous,
Memories… Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 24 2025 0:17 utc | 55 Dima seems to think the Ukie Flash Mobs are a US backed protest. He thinks Tiny Dancer is cozying up to Russia, he did call for the most recent peace talks, so might be something there, especially if Zman tries to throw the US and NATO under the bus…..the big Russian bus……weird shit plot twist if true….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jul 24 2025 0:20 utc | 56 We’ve reached levels of diversion, distraction, dissimulation I’d never thought possible. Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 24 2025 0:48 utc | 57 We’ve reached levels of diversion, distraction, dissimulation I’d never thought possible. Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 24 2025 0:50 utc | 58 We’ve reached levels of diversion, distraction, dissimulation I’d never thought possible. Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 24 2025 0:53 utc | 59 We’ve reached levels of diversion, distraction, dissimulation I’d never thought possible. Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 24 2025 0:56 utc | 61 We’ve reached levels of diversion, distraction, dissimulation I’d never thought possible. Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 24 2025 1:00 utc | 62 “The depressing thing is that the Trump regime made a big deal out of abolishing USAID and the NED, but somehow the money is still getting out there to these color revolutionists.” Posted by: George | Jul 24 2025 1:21 utc | 64 Sure anonymous is back Posted by: Newbie | Jul 24 2025 1:24 utc | 65 Just an addendum, DS proper Posted by: Newbie | Jul 24 2025 1:30 utc | 66 According to live map there are around 15 protests taking place in cities in Ukraine. Posted by: George | Jul 24 2025 1:45 utc | 67 Memories… Posted by: Newbie | Jul 24 2025 1:49 utc | 68 Newbie | Jul 24 2025 1:24 utc | 65 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 24 2025 1:54 utc | 69 According to Some Guy on the Internet. Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 24 2025 2:02 utc | 70 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 24 2025 2:02 utc | 70 Posted by: George | Jul 24 2025 2:09 utc | 71 While everyone is looking at Ukraine I think the mice are up to their usual ‘cold war’ tricks in Armenia which is far more concerning in terms of the United States of Chaos/Israel meddling in the region. Posted by: George | Jul 24 2025 2:13 utc | 72 George | Jul 24 2025 2:13 utc | 72 Posted by: Cynic | Jul 24 2025 3:06 utc | 73 @ Cynic | Jul 24 2025 3:06 utc | 73 Posted by: james | Jul 24 2025 4:05 utc | 74 I’d like to see Russia let Strelkov out of prison if he agrees to go to Odessa to organize the resistance. Strictly covert and no showboating. That would prove his worth. Posted by: Suresh | Jul 24 2025 4:42 utc | 76 ‘i forgot’ and ‘wagelaborer’ consistently make the best posts here now. Posted by: ThouShalt | Jul 24 2025 5:40 utc | 77 xwitter + telegram trawl Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 24 2025 6:33 utc | 78 Remember the Kevin Bacon 6-degrees game. Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 24 2025 6:48 utc | 79 why would the US need a color revolution to get rid of Z? unless there are other purposes to it of course. the situation is very murky outside of Russia’s guaranteed victory. maybe it it related to the politics around the eventual rump state–I dont see Russia wanting Western Ukraine, but the again how will it address long term security without taking it over? Posted by: pretzelattack | Jul 24 2025 7:42 utc | 80 Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Jul 23 2025 19:26 utc | 27 Posted by: scc | Jul 24 2025 9:07 utc | 81 reply to 73 Posted by: Eighthman | Jul 24 2025 10:27 utc | 82 Melaleuca | Jul 24 2025 6:33 utc | 78 Posted by: NotEinstein | Jul 24 2025 10:41 utc | 83 I’d like to apologize for the confusion caused yesterday when I penned a message on this board under the handle “Anonymous”. Some of the responses clearly indicated that this handle is normally associated with another visitor to the board; while other responses remained on topic with helpful information to my intial query regarding the age of the Ukrainina anti-corruption protestors. I even felt a moment of flattery reading Melaleuca’s poem (which, I feel it’s pretty good) addressed to the real “Anonymous”, but that sentiment quickly evaporated for obviuos reasons – I was an impostor. To avoid further confusion, I’ve picked a different handle – “Spiridon”. Hopefully, I am not repeating the same mistake and cause another wave of misdirected attention. Posted by: Spiridon | Jul 24 2025 10:47 utc | 84 Posted by: Spiridon | Jul 24 2025 10:47 utc | 84 Posted by: Avtonom | Jul 24 2025 12:18 utc | 86 “The depressing thing is that the Trump regime made a big deal out of abolishing USAID and the NED, but somehow the money is still getting out there to these color revolutionists.” Posted by: snake | Jul 24 2025 13:15 utc | 87 This video much broader protest … the children of the Maidan of 2014 … Near the Franko Theatre in Kyiv, protesters recalled a chant from 2014; the corresponding footage from the rally was published by the Ukrainian publication Strana.ua.
Everything about these protests is suspicous and smells of orchestrated maneuvers. They are as organic as the Maidan protests – that is, not organic at all. Posted by: Hamburger | Jul 24 2025 13:45 utc | 90 On Zelya… Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 24 2025 14:26 utc | 91 Avtonom@86…..the biggest tell is always the placards the protesters carry, especially in a foreign country, say like 404. If the protest signs are written in English, the protests are western sponsored, period. Those type protests are for the cameras, carrying the message back home to a western audience…… Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jul 24 2025 14:35 utc | 92 Prison exchange – but no progress on the cessation on hostilities. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 24 2025 14:38 utc | 93 Spiridon@84…..the Disco Lights shine bright in Kiev and Lviv every night, that’s where most young Ukies are, dancing the night away, Rocking in the Free World…..there is no war in 404 as far as they are concerned and at the moment conscription is not an issue for them……that revolution, will not be televised…. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jul 24 2025 14:41 utc | 94 Let’s take a moment to note the utterly obvious: that Maidan 2.0 clearly shares with Maidan 1.0 robust Western sponsorship. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 24 2025 14:47 utc | 95 See above videos … Home-made placards none in English ”…if those signs are written in any language other than English, no one in the western audience would give a rats ass…” Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 24 2025 15:02 utc | 97 Yep, Occupy was definitely not a color revolution, unlike the 2020 Floyd riots. There are only two times in recent history I can recall Americans being so united. One was Occupy, the other was Epstein Didn’t Kill Himself. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 24 2025 15:25 utc | 98 Posted by: wagelaborer | Jul 23 2025 20:21 utc | 37 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 24 2025 15:32 utc | 99 Senator Graham Lindsay has made aatatement re z…it comes across that he is a rather regretfully miffed that z has rashly taken the corruption action on his own without consulting his masters , as previously it was and still remains -hopefully-for both Ukraine and USA still to be working together closely on anticorruption measures….. Posted by: Jo | Jul 24 2025 15:41 utc | 100 |
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