Some people in here are just crazy. Zelenzky seeking asylum in Russia? Putin to meet Zelenzky at all before capitulation? Dream on but it’s tiresome with so many kilometers of nonsense.

Posted by: Avtonom | Jul 21 2025 7:20 utc | 103

Posted by: rk | Jul 20 2025 20:23 utc | 52
“Germany is a very rich country, with a very rich population. […] The electricity cost will not affect most of them”
It will, however, affect the industry, and that’s the problem.

Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Jul 21 2025 7:31 utc | 105

In Kiew, a rock festival took place, with nice illuminati symbols (all seeing eye): https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zsBC8VqRMHU

Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 21 2025 9:32 utc | 107

I think that’s why Putin never had Zelensky killed; he’s a legit target ever since the SMO was re-cast as a terrorism operation.
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jul 21 2025 1:00 utc | 71
He’s dead no matter where he goes. If the Russians don’t find him his Banderite “friends” will.
Many posit that he could set up a “government in exile” but his usefulness ends when he’s no longer in charge inside Ukraine. At that point his primarily utility will be as the primary scapegoat for the failure, and all these politicians who hug him now will want him to disappear then.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jul 21 2025 9:39 utc | 109

The issues are Iran and Russia as they now exist. In opposition to Hegemony. Same with China.
Posted by: Suresh | Jul 21 2025 6:26 utc | 97
Without question.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jul 21 2025 9:42 utc | 111

graham previously said its going to be 500%.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 21 2025 9:40 utc | 110
Even at 500%, I can’t really imagine that the maths math to make it worth China or India’s while to refuse Russian oil. Even assuming the tariff took India and China’s exports to the US to zero, that loss might easily be dwarfed by the cost of finding alternative sources of oil in an environment where millions of barrels of Russian supply have been suddenly taken off the market.

Posted by: OnceWere | Jul 21 2025 10:20 utc | 113

You aren’t a Trump hater, are you?
Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 20 2025 13:52 utc | 7
And a democrat hater. What is your point ?
Ah, you don’t have one , just yet more ideological drivel ?
Why don’t you just come out of the closet and admit that you think it would be a wonderful idea if Russia and America United and attacked China.
Then you will be completely on board with the alt right media framing and narratives ?

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 21 2025 11:29 utc | 115

In Spain, in the Cala Alta residential complex in Villajoyosa, 61-year-old former Ukrainian Interior Ministry official Igor Grushevsky was found dead. This was reported by El Espanol.
▪️According to the newspaper, there were no signs of violence or injuries on the body of the deceased, but blood was noticed in the ear area.
▪️It is noted that in 2024, Russian pilot Maxim Kuzminov was killed in the same complex, who in 2023 hijacked an Mi-8 helicopter to Ukraine. Coincidence?
t.me/llordofwar/471477

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jul 21 2025 11:46 utc | 117

Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 20 2025 13:52 utc | 7
The massive difference between me and you is I call a spade a spade doesn’t matter if it is democrat or Republican.
You’ll jump on anything right wing like a bitch on heat. That’s why you allowed right wing populism to make a complete fool of you.
You fooled yourself yet again for the umpteenth time. Not that you’ll ever look in a mirror and admit that to yourself or your family. You can’t because you are an ideologue and simply can’t think for yourself.
Yet again, your right wing ideology and confirmation biases allowed yourself to be fooled by a grifter that would struggle to sell second hand cars.
I’ve not voted since the 1980’s. As I didn’t see anything worth voting for. They have to earn my vote. I don’t throw my vote around as if it is confetti. I’ve learned to think for myself and free myself from the ideological matrix.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 21 2025 11:56 utc | 119

Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 21 2025 3:47 utc | 94
Yes, domestic policy under Trump is different from Biden/Kamala. but difference is not necessiarly what The voters want.. domestic progress toward MAGA and retraction from anything foreign.
Voters want open government ( no more secrets: 9/11, Kennedy assassinations, Viet Nam, US Tax payer money to Israel), no more foreign policy that supports the deep state, no more recognition of dual citizenship, elimination of the two party hold on the American political process, and most of all voters want truth in media.
The voters want those who create, produce, present or distribute campaign promises, news or propaganda in media to be personally and jointly liable damages to audience members able to prove the news heard, promise made, or the media engaged had been filtered, doctored, engineered, altered to mislead them.
A media distributor, content creator or content provider could be excused from liability if and only if both the nature of the content and the technique used to present it which offends the truth or misleads the audience is fully and adequately made known to and disclosed to the audience in real time.
For example, a footnote identified to a place in the presentation where Colin Powell states that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction states: audiences must not assume that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction because no one, including Colin Powell, has yet produced verifiable physical evidence to support the claim made between minute 2.01 and 2.17 in the presentation.)
This means federal and state laws need to recognize media and content providers as liable in Tort for misleading, doctored, altered or filtered productions as an intentional torts with damage awards to offended audiences.
Seems to me alt media is missing the boat.. It needs to work in unison to get the laws changed, and the demands of audiences everywhere of the mind set, that government has an absolute duty to those it governs to be sure the media content is reliable because media permeates every facet of our society. Misleading or factually unreliable media is a threat to everyone’s security..

Posted by: snake | Jul 21 2025 12:06 utc | 121

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jul 21 2025 12:15 utc | 122
The interesting question to me is not the magnitude of the errors of our political elites, that much is evident and easily explained as a mixture of mediocrity, fanaticism and subservience.
The really interesting question is how they have survived making those errors. Since Feb. 22, there have been general elections in France, Sweden, Italy, Poland, Netherlands, and Germany, plus the EC (among others). The same fanatic imbeciles form governments or grab top positions despite their huge errors.
That needs explaining.
My offer is that voters will support them despite their huge errors not because voters believe in their silly propaganda but because they keep thinking and feeling that they live in a welfare garden.
The stupid remark by the former Catalan EU foreign voice (we live in a garden, the world is a jungle) is what keep poor performers grabbing top positions in our political hierarchies.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 21 2025 12:49 utc | 123

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 21 2025 9:40 utc | 110
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RAF does not care nor does the RoW and in particular the BRIIICS+.
The latter is about to finalize and fully implement its ‘mighty’ economic and financial infrastructure for trade between friendly partners completely bypassing the Outlaw US of A and the collective waste.

Posted by: pepe | Jul 21 2025 13:25 utc | 125

Reading the MSM NYT is like reading an Orwellian journal.
Day after day its just mere repetition of Ukronazi accounts, no attribution, no attempt to sift through propaganda, and the same for the WPO.
These publications are just PR arms of the Soros/WEC/Biden-Obama deep state.
Reading these publications you would believe that the RF is getting crushed…….its laughable.
So how are they going to cover the collapse of the Kieve Nazi regime when the inevitable occurs?

Posted by: tobias cole | Jul 21 2025 13:36 utc | 127

@Avtonom | Jul 21 2025 7:20 utc, who said (to me, principally):

Some people in here are just crazy. Zelenzky seeking asylum in Russia? Putin to meet Zelenzky at all before capitulation? Dream on but it’s tiresome with so many kilometers of nonsense.

Avtonom: Zelensky will seek asylum anywhere it’s credibly safe. That’s just a matter of time. For Putin, the question will be whether it serves Russia’s interests. Let’s examine how that might be:
a. Zelensky knows the names, full ID, location, etc. of almost every Banderite. There are lists, and those lists are going to get used to weed them out. He also knows all the players that set up Ukraine; it wasn’t just a few rich Jewish oligarchs. That would be very useful to know. Likely Russia already knows most of this, but the steps / moves are useful. Useful also as leverage during the next round of housekeeping that likely will occur within Russia.
b. If Zelensky’s defection would have an adverse impact on Ukrainian morale, that would also be helpful
c. If Zelensky’s public statements post-asylum addressed the topic of the profound manipulation and destruction of a whole people, at the hands of the Rulers, that would offer up a lot of world-wide propaganda value. “here’s how it might happen to your country: a cautionary tale for the Baltics, the Caucasus, Azerbaijan, etc.” Those countries might benefit from a close, detailed look at “how it works”.
d. Zelensky knows where all the money went. What could be more damaging, especially at this juncture, than for Zelensky to reinforce the Epstein story with tales of how money goes from U.S. and E.U. taxpayer through the pipes and ends up in offshore accounts held by particular Oligarchs and their coterie? Wouldn’t that make for some interesting reading? How do you think that would affect the mood of the little people in the U.S. and E.U. and U.K.?
Looking at it from Zelensky’s perspective, Russia could, if it wanted to, provide a fairly safe haven for Zelensky. Russia is a big place; it’s a credible haven, for some years at least.
Zelensky’s desperation is going to increase, as is the desperation of his immediate coterie, and that includes the Banderites. Desperate people become very imaginative.
So Avtonom, you said it was preposterous to consider Russia granting asylum, or Zelensky taking refuge in Russia. Please explain why, particularly, you see it that way. I would appreciate hearing your views, as I like to avoid holding ridiculous notions overlong.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jul 21 2025 13:48 utc | 129

Russia getting on with the job at hand.
“Russian forces have carried out a coordinated overnight strike on Ukraine’s military-industrial complex and airfield infrastructure, the Defense Ministry in Moscow has said.
In a statement on Monday, the ministry reported that a group strike used long-range air-, sea-, and surface-launched precision weapons. It also included Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missiles and attack drones, officials added.
“The goal of the strike has been achieved. All designated targets have been hit,” the ministry stated.
Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky confirmed the strikes, reporting damage in Kiev and its surroundings, as well as in Kharkov and Ivano-Frankivsk regions. He also claimed that Ukrainian air defenses had downed drones in Sumy, Khmelnitsky, Kirovograd, Nikolayev, and Poltava regions, and in the Kiev-occupied part of Kherson Region.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 21 2025 13:53 utc | 131

@65 Ahenobarbus
Re: Mark’s responsibility to explain America.
“imprimatur of experience.”
Props to the burn.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jul 21 2025 14:01 utc | 133

Like I said Westminster doesn’t give fly*ing f*ck about its own people – 24,000 Afghan traitors, and their families, (some with over 14 members) smuggled into Britain, at a cost of at least £800 million quid to the taxpayer, millions if no billions more dished out to Ukraine and Israel, yes Westminster only cares about its own agenda regardless of which party is in power.
“UK Defense Secretary John Healey is set to urge Ukraine’s backers to launch a “50-day drive” to arm Kiev, local media have reported. The plan follows US President Donald Trump’s threat to impose secondary sanctions on Russia’s trading partners within 50 days if no progress is made on resolving the conflict.
Healey is expected to make the appeal when he leads a virtual session of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group (UDCG) on Monday. The minister is also poised to back Trump’s plan and pledge the UK’s support to “bolster Ukraine’s immediate fight.”
“The US has started the clock on a 50-day deadline for [Russian President Vladimir] Putin to agree to peace or face crippling economic sanctions… We need to step up in turn with a ‘50-day drive’ to arm Ukraine on the battlefield and force Putin to the negotiating table,” he is expected to say.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 21 2025 14:05 utc | 135

Steve Bannon telling the world what It’s really all about.
1 min 30 secs in the war room video below.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xD4LjWdlJXc
What Tucker Carlson’s game has been all along.
To me , has been so obvious since January. Steve Bannon just laid it all out in full view of everybody.
I got called a fool for simply pointing out the Kissingerarians at the bar for weeks now.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 21 2025 14:29 utc | 137

I was the very first at the bar to even invent the word Kissingerarians. I knew there were many lurkers drinking at this bar. Who would love nothing more than the US and Russia to unite to isolate China. I knew it for years.
Laid it all out what the alt right media was up to. What I thought was actually happening. It was so very obvious to me as the talking heads on the judge said very different things when talking to different audiences. How some of them kept talking about isolating China.
You follow these people around the internet for long enough their trueselves will be revealed.
Steve Bannon 2 days ago confirmed I was absolutely right to see it this way.
They ain’t even hiding it anymore.
They tried to fool you to believe they actually care about Gazza and Russia. Never away from Moscow visiting it several times a year.
Well now you know 100% what their real agenda is. Steve Bannon has given the game away. Even though it was so obvious what the Judge guests were doing. The chuckle brothers at the Duran after spending that week in Budapest. They had Changed.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 21 2025 14:45 utc | 139

who invented the word Kissingerarians
chatgpt says
I couldn’t find any authoritative source crediting who specifically coined **“Kissingerarians.”** The term *does* appear in recent political commentary—most notably on the blog **Moon of Alabama**, where it describes supporters of Henry Kissinger’s foreign-policy approach—but there’s no clear originator or documented “first use” ([moonofalabama.org][1]).
It seems to function as a playful, politically charged label rather than an established term with a traceable inventor. Without academic references, published interviews, or formal reports attributing its creation to someone, we’re left with the assumption that it emerged informally within media and political discourse.
If you came across it in a specific article, social media post, or interview, I’d be glad to help dig deeper into that source!
[1]: https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/07/ukraine-open-thread-2025-162.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com “Ukraine Open Thread 2025-162 – Moon of Alabama”

Posted by: Cable Guy | Jul 21 2025 14:52 utc | 141

@echo chamber – Who would love nothing more than the US and Russia to unite to isolate China
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Did I miss an entire episode that set up some kind of suspense or have you seized upon the obvious?
Goal #1 was knock out Russia and confiscate their shit; then turn attention to China.
Plan B is launch western media/culture campaign to lure Russia back into the Western fold; then turn attention to China.
China has always been the target as they pose the greatest threat to western values – including Russia.
The idiot Ukraine gambit can now be notched alongside other losses by Gustav, Napoleon & Hitler.
Time to play to strength by capitalizing on a long line of western cultural successes starting with perhaps orthodoxy 1k years ago up until just before the SMO.

Posted by: Markw | Jul 21 2025 15:01 utc | 143

Back to the topic:

Ukrainian publics write one after another about the significant deterioration of the situation for the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Pokrovsk and its environs. For a long time, the enemy did not recognize the control of the Russian Armed Forces over the village of Peschanoye, which is southwest of Pokrovsk, now it recognizes it and the advance of the Russian army in Zverevo, the southwestern suburb of Pokrovsk closest to Leontovichi.
Enemy reports indicate that Russian sabotage and reconnaissance groups are operating in the southern part of the city. From the report:
“DRG soldiers set up ambushes on Ukrainian Armed Forces vehicles; unfortunately, there are killed and wounded soldiers.”
And just the day before, the Ukrainian command issued reports that Russian sabotage and reconnaissance groups had been “identified and neutralized.” Now it turns out that not only were they not neutralized, but that the “neutralizers” themselves are being neutralized.
At the same time, Ukrainian publics have already lost count of the number of Russian sabotage and reconnaissance groups in the city.
There are reports of the work of snipers of the Russian Armed Forces on the vehicles of the National Guard and the National Police of Ukraine in the southern part of Pokrovsk and on the approaches to it. Also, our fighters set up ambushes in the city limits on the Ukrainian Armed Forces moving there “on foot” along the streets.
The appearance of the sabotage and reconnaissance group in Pokrovsk creates major problems for the enemy, disrupts its military logistics, and does not allow the use of mobile defense tactics. Now any point in the south of Pokrovsk can become the “last refuge” for the Ukrainian Armed Forces servicemen.
At the same time, there is fire work on the reserves of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which it is trying to pull up to Pokrovsk, including in the area of Rodinskoye. Today, at least 4 Russian FAB with UMPK have been recorded there. There are arrivals at the identified locations of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the area of Teatralnaya Street. In Dobropillya, a group of Ukrainian officers was destroyed in the building of the local administration.

https://en.topwar.ru/268409-drgshniki-ustraivajut-zasady-na-mashiny-vsu-ukrainskie-pabliki-sbilis-so-scheta-po-chislu-drg-vs-rf-v-pokrovske.html

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 21 2025 15:34 utc | 145

To add to Ukraine’s woes there’s outbreak of locust infestation:

Locust invasion continues in Ukraine: pests have reached the Dnipropetrovsk region
Local residents report that the insect swarms are rapidly moving across the territory and could cause serious damage to the crop.
Earlier, locusts had attacked the Kiev-controlled part of the Zaporizhzhia region️️
Source: Telegram “i20028843”

https://news-pravda.com/ukraine/2025/07/21/1532832.html

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 21 2025 15:42 utc | 147

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 21 2025 15:42 utc | 147
Dima talked about the locusts in yesterday’s PM Military Summary Channel video.
Just in time to ruin the fall harvest. I sure hope that Blackrock or Monsanto wasn’t counting on any grain exports out of the area. It would be such a shame if they had to lose more money, after the tragic loss of the grain facilities in the port of Odessa, and now this. (World’s smallest violin playing in background.)

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jul 21 2025 16:07 utc | 149

@Tom Pfotzer | Jul 21 2025 13:48 utc | 129
You provide a lot of reasons why Zelensky will be replaced by the MI6-trained Zaluzhny at any time soon. If Zelensky wants to do what you propose, he better act fast. Maybe that is why he wants to meet Putin in person.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 21 2025 16:27 utc | 151

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 21 2025 16:21 utc | 150

its even worse in germany. no matter who you vote, at the end the politicians form a “coalition” with parties that people didnt vote for, all filled with atlantic council people.
and then its just a continuation of the same agenda. not that it matters much, as the real big decisions are beeing made in brussels.
the german politicians are more like governors installed by the british for what its worth. the illusion of choice.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 21 2025 16:30 utc | 153

@Justpassinby | Jul 21 2025 16:30 utc | 153
You pretty much described the situation in Norway too.
I had a brief discussion with some friends in a hot summer evening (imagine 28C at 11 PM in Norway). One asked me what to do if I could decide. I said we first have to regain our lost independence, but they didn’t understand what I meant. I also said I want a real democracy and that cannot be implemented using dictatorial methods. As long as we have lying media it is not possible to have an open discussion based on facts and thus democracy is effectively cancelled.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 21 2025 16:42 utc | 155

@Johan Kaspar | Jul 21 2025 16:43 utc | 156
I hope you are right, but I am not optimistic at this stage. If any meaningful change (in whatever form) is to gain sufficient momentum I think it would probably have to happen in France first, but I will take anything.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 21 2025 16:48 utc | 157

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 21 2025 12:55 utc | 124

“force to the negotiating table”. bitch please, YOU dont want to negotiate. YOU want to impose.
YOU dont know what to do because YOU NAZIS cannot act in good faith and behave like grown adults.

lol Yeah. Embarrassing.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 21 2025 17:14 utc | 159

Back to the locusts, it seems surprising that this hasn’t been blamed on the eeeevil Putin. Oh, that villain, weaponizing locusts!
(It also sounds like something the CIA would come up with.)

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jul 21 2025 17:12 utc | 158
Heh, I had thoughts along similar lines; maybe they’re actually Russian Spy drones…
More seriously, it can be seen as a pointer towards a lack of agricultural workers engaged in pro-active monitoring and control of pests such as these. Wonder where the agricultural workers have gone? Couldn’t possibly have been bundled into minibuses against their will and sent off, with minimal training, to die on the frontlines?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 21 2025 17:49 utc | 161

More seriously, it can be seen as a pointer towards a lack of agricultural workers engaged in pro-active monitoring and control of pests such as these. Wonder where the agricultural workers have gone? Couldn’t possibly have been bundled into minibuses against their will and sent off, with minimal training, to die on the frontlines?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 21 2025 17:49 utc | 161
Unlikely. After full impact I remember industry had taken quite the tumble but farms were kept by women (mechanized farming allows men/soldiers not having to return for certain tasks)

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 21 2025 19:40 utc | 163

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 21 2025 16:21 utc | 150
Coluche: “Si voter changeait quelque chose, il y a longtemps que ça serait interdit.”
“If voting changed anything, it would have been banned for a long time.”
Necessary to read or read again 1984.

Posted by: Naive | Jul 21 2025 20:18 utc | 165

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 20 2025 19:21 utc | 45
Figures are same port, different wharf, so I’m ok with that. I estimate greater losses in the initial phase than you do, but it’s with the acceptable error range, given the information is about a current conflict.
Is the low figure of 45k full LOC or Southern based? If former too low, if latter agree, as considerable numbers had to bolster the Kherson Front.
The militia contribution is hard to assess, but it’s known they suffered far higher casualties than regular forces (upwards of 30% ) and Wagner had 20-23k in ‘22 not 40K (or are these pre-post Bakhmut figures).
Just after posting my ‘analysis’ I found this on the web:
https://en.defence-ua.com/analysis/russian_troops_allocation_in_ukraine_where_to_find_most_of_them-3397.html
I can’t tell the validity of Def Mon’s figures but what’s interesting is the BTG frontage stated (average 17km, concentrated 5.5), because if we assume the BTG’s infantry battalion strength is 230-280 (av 255) then it gives us:
Battalion 17km frontage
Company 8.5km frontage
Platoon 4.25km frontage
Per man 190m frontage (roughly half my figure)
This disparity with my figures is because. I calculated that divisions would only be able to generate 2 brigades, if the figure is 3 then the battalion frontage in 16km.
It seems therefore that the capability of the Russian units was significantly impacted after the initial stages of the invasion which is backed up by evidence of manpower shortages (Wagner, Militia filler). It also gives a good indication why the Kharkov Front was stripped, as the Kherson forces had first been fought to a standstill then threatened to be rolled over, by the Ukrainian counter-offensive.

Posted by: Milites | Jul 21 2025 21:56 utc | 167

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 21 2025 19:40 utc | 163
No Newbie. Locust plagues are well beyond the capacity of any individual farmer, male or female to manage. They require co-ordinated large scale action generally by government. These locusts can travel 50 km in a day (or more). They arrive in their millions, moving farm to farm across whole continents.
We get them in Australia, in our wheat fields, and of course are well known to devastate Africa from time to time.

Posted by: watcher | Jul 21 2025 22:53 utc | 169

Tom Pfotzer@129…..when Lavrov said “Zielinski needs a slap on the wrist”, never for a moment, did I get the impression Russia would harbour War Criminals…..
Cheers M
…..as for War Criminals like Zielinski……Russia lets them go, on vacation…..to a nice resort on the Black Sea…..so puting him up in Putin’s garden shed might just fly….

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jul 21 2025 23:08 utc | 171

Earlier today, the US Army’s Twitter account was posting about drones that do things the Ukrainians and Russians were doing 3 years ago, like they just invented a new technology.
They have since deleted their posts after they were humiliated by people pointing out how behind the world America is.
They have also revealed their latest attack drones last week, which look a lot like Iranian Shaheds and Russian Gerans, but white.
Shades of “You didn’t build that”
The internet is kryptonite to Boomers and MAGAs.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 21 2025 23:51 utc | 173

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 20 2025 19:21 utc | 45
Figures are same port, different wharf, so I’m ok with that. I estimate greater losses in the initial phase than you do, but it’s with the acceptable error range, given the information is about a current conflict.
Is the low figure of 45k full LOC or Southern based? If former too low, if latter agree, as considerable numbers had to bolster the Kherson Front.
The militia contribution is hard to assess, but it’s known they suffered far higher casualties than regular forces (upwards of 30% ) and Wagner had 20-23k in ‘22 not 40K (or are these pre-post Bakhmut figures).
It seems therefore that the capability of the Russian units was significantly impacted after the initial stages of the invasion which is backed up by evidence of manpower shortages (Wagner, Militia filler). It also gives a good indication why the Kharkov Front was stripped, as the Kherson forces had first been fought to a standstill then threatened to be rolled over, by the Ukrainian counter-offensive.
Posted by: Milites | Jul 21 2025 21:56 utc | 167
I’ll focus on these sections
“I estimate greater losses in the initial phase” do you? I estimate, by end of august 2022 78.500 RF permanent loses + 18.500 temporarily out of action, yes 97.000 , not much remaining from 104.000+60.000 wagners (ad some militia padding, yes pre- Bakhmut “(or are these pre-post Bakhmut figures”, full complement provided )
“Is the low figure of 45k full LOC or Southern based? If former too low” full line thats why “It also gives a good indication why the Kharkov Front was stripped, as the Kherson forces had first been fought to a standstill then threatened to be rolled over,”
All fronts were over-extended, the retreat went smoothly, a proper army could have made a massacre or stop at the border. But from that assessment putin, or his staff, knew they could hold @25%AFU commitment (hurrah for marines vs grunts, if apart from getting badly hit marginally lower, you can expose 1/4 of the men…) That’s how you get high kill ratios, and over time “to the last ukranian” .
Thoughts?

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 22 2025 0:23 utc | 175

At least Trump has delivered half of what I voted for.
Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 21 2025 23:17 utc | 172
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So was the Epstein cover-up in the half you wanted or the stuff you didn’t?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 22 2025 0:29 utc | 177

@ Paranaense 172
No doubt the caging children part.

Posted by: j99 | Jul 22 2025 2:38 utc | 179

Posted by: j99 | Jul 22 2025 2:38 utc | 179
“No doubt the caging children part.”
You mean the cages that Obama built that the media pretended didn’t exist from 2020 to January 2025 and now suddenly they’re a big deal? Those cages? Is there nothing you lefties won’t lie about in order to weaponize the narrative? You do realize that the Biden administration released 300,000 children into the custody of human traffickers and authorities are trying to track them down and free them from whatever slavery they are experiencing? Federal agents just rescued over 20 youths being forced to work at a marijuana farm in California. If you really cared about kids you’d drop the false narrative and start dealing in reality.

Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 22 2025 3:16 utc | 181

RT News – July 21 (corrected from above)
https://www.rt.com/shows/news/621733-rtnews-july-21-18msk/
“Ukraine asks Russia for a third round of peace talks this week amid turmoil in Kiev as Ukraine’s security services carries out a massive raid on the country’s anti-corruption bureau, while it investigates Vladimir Zelensky’s allies…”
Agent Zelensky: A Scott Ritter Investigation (2 parts & vid)
https://mronline.org/2023/08/31/agent-zelensky-part-2/
“Click here to watch Part 1…”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 22 2025 4:25 utc | 183

Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 22 2025 3:16 utc | 181
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If MAGAs cared about kids, Trump would stop starving and bombing them.
You don’t get to play the Obama was the bad guy card when your guy has exposed himself as protecting human trafficking.
Obama was a piece of crap. Trump hasn’t been much better as a human being.
I don’t think anyone can talk about Obama’s cages while Trump has been deporting people to a concentration camp in El Salvador and is currently building a concentration camp in America, Alligator Alcatraz.
Y’all are so dumb. You don’t understand that everything Trump does is paving the way for the Dems to do it to you.
Political power is a double-edged sword. Every time you punish your enemies, you give them a blueprint to punish you when it is their turn.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 22 2025 4:56 utc | 185

How’s that working out for you? At least Trump has delivered half of what I voted for.
Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 21 2025 23:17 utc | 172

Very much OT but can’t resist: Maybe he would deliver the other half if you didn’t vote? So it all comes down to which half is the worst

Posted by: Avtonom | Jul 22 2025 7:44 utc | 187

The old Nazi’s – to deliver Patriot missiles to the Neo-Nazi’s, birds of a feather as they saying goes.
“Germany has agreed to provide Patriot air defense systems to Ukraine “as quickly as possible,” officials confirmed on Monday. The plan was reportedly agreed with the US, after President Donald Trump said Washington would continue supplying weapons to Ukraine as long as European NATO countries pay for them.
While some members of the US-led military bloc have agreed to procure weapons for Kiev, others, including Italy, Hungary, and France, have opted out, citing limited resources and domestic security needs.
German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius has confirmed that Berlin will deliver five Patriot systems from its own inventory, despite previous statements that the remaining stocks were too low to support additional transfers. He said the US has agreed to supply Germany with replacement systems originally ordered by Switzerland, though delivery is not expected until 2027-2028.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 22 2025 11:58 utc | 189

Apologies for being OT.

Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 22 2025 11:59 utc | 191

Meanwhile the clown UNSG Guterres is bumping his gums on tv, boasting how good the West is with electric and renewable energies – and that fossil fuels have had their day, possibly a dig a t Russian oil and gas, that some EU nations wish they had back.
“Russia has imposed entry bans on a number of EU officials in response to the bloc’s 17th and 18th packages of sanctions, targeting individuals and entities deemed responsible for providing military aid to Ukraine, the Russian Foreign Ministry announced on Tuesday.
“Western governments have unleashed an unprecedented wave of sanctions against Moscow since the Ukraine conflict escalated in 2022. Last week, the EU introduced its 18th package, focusing on Russia’s energy and banking sectors.
In reaction to these “unfriendly actions,” Russia has significantly expanded the list of individuals barred from entering the country, the Foreign Ministry said in a statement.
The blacklist now includes representatives of EU institutions, officials from member states, and individuals from other European countries “aligning themselves with Brussels’ anti-Russian policies,” the ministry added.
The entry ban targets European security officials, Ukraine supporters, and those allegedly undermining Russia’s territorial integrity or blockading its ships in the Baltic Sea, the ministry said. It also includes activists and politicians, though no names were disclosed.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 22 2025 13:12 utc | 193

Meanwhile DS gave +20.7 km² for yesterday (closing update for yesterday)
While 1.180 casualties (and report) for today already in
https://tass.com/politics/1992625

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 22 2025 14:45 utc | 195

Sometimes it’s the little things that set off the spark. Zelensky can kill off a generation of young men, and Ukraine’s remaining people seem to take it all in stride. But then some rule change about Western-backed corruption “watchdogs”… and everybody’s suddenly up in arms?
Maybe it’s just the drip-drip-drip of it all.
Or maybe it’s the fact that this agency is backed by the West, and thus these protests are backed by the West. After all the West is paying the bills. Europe is paying this money to kill Russians, not to make Zelensky and a few cronies get rich. I imagine they’re getting tired of the “vee needs mor vaypons” shtick while the dictator lines his pockets.

Posted by: BR Cityzen | Jul 22 2025 18:23 utc | 197

🌐🇨🇳The US representative to NATO demanded punishment for China “for subsidizing” the hostilities between Russia and Ukraine. This statement was made by Matthew Whitaker on Fox News.
“China believes it is waging a proxy war through Russia, and we see from some statements by the Chinese government that they want to distract the United States and our allies, who are engaged in this war, so that we cannot focus on our other strategic tasks,” Whitaker said.

would also fit in the “knowing your enemy” thread, as the american cunt here basically admits that their proxy war is not going according to plan as they cannot focus their unprovoked aggression on the chinese target because the ukraine is not doing so well in their aggression.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 22 2025 18:49 utc | 199