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July 20, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-162

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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Basing the argument on ideological grounds –
” It is one thing to despise the Soviet Union, which was governed by a Communist ideology. But the “End of the Cold War” was marked by the peaceful overthrow of a communist government and the creation of a new Russian government that emphasized nationalism and Christianity. ”
Is a very bad look and straight out of the Kissinger play book. Larry Johnson should have known better.
But maybe he’s just a Kissingerarian like most of them ?
Neither capitalist Russia or communist China are the aggressors here. Both pose a threat to nobody.
Saying it’s okay to hate communist Russia but not to hate modern day Russia. Creates the narrative it is fine to hate communist China.
Neither capitalist Russia or communist China are the aggressors here. Both pose a threat to nobody.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 20 2025 12:33 utc | 1

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 18th July 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-564

Posted by: The Busker | Jul 20 2025 12:36 utc | 2

The kissingerarians are furious with Trump as he pushes Russia and China even closer after his recent announcements on Ukraine.
It’s why the alt right media have been spreading propaganda all week that..
” It was a nothinburger. ”
Just In case you hadn’t noticed.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 20 2025 12:40 utc | 3

Anonymous memorial hour
DS gave a round 20km2
Meanwhile even the NYeT knows…
Ukrainian troops facing threat of being surrounded in Konstantinovka
https://tass.com/defense/1991645

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 20 2025 13:15 utc | 4

From Rt.com:
„German general urges Ukraine to strike Russian airfields“
„Ukraine should consider striking Russian airfields and weapons factories deep inside the country to alleviate pressure on the front, a senior German general has suggested.
Speaking during a Bundeswehr podcast on Saturday, Major General Christian Freuding, who oversees Germany’s military assistance to Ukraine, gave Kiev advice on weakening Russia’s offensive power.“
And:
„Meanwhile, Freuding confirmed earlier this month that Ukraine would receive the first batch of long-range missiles financed by Berlin before the end of July. Germany, however, has been reluctant to send Taurus long-range missiles due to escalation concerns.“
Full article:
https://www.rt.com/news/621718-german-general-ukraine-hit-russia-airfields/

Posted by: NoName | Jul 20 2025 13:21 utc | 5

Full article:
https://www.rt.com/news/621718-german-general-ukraine-hit-russia-airfields/
Posted by: NoName | Jul 20 2025 13:21 utc | 5
If this fucking idiot and his similarly credentialed equivalents in Nato get their wish.
Does he really think that it’s going to be consequences free for Europe?
Talking is cheap.
Consequences can be brutally expensive.
As they are economically for Europe but no one especially the retard elite are talking about the economic destruction.

Posted by: jpc | Jul 20 2025 13:33 utc | 6

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 20 2025 12:40 utc | 3
“The kissingerarians are furious with Trump as he pushes Russia and China even closer after his recent announcements on Ukraine.
It seems to me that Biden and the puppet masters who ran the last 4 years of foreign policy are the ones who miscalculated, caused Russia to tune up it’s military, and drove China into each other’s arms. To suggest that Trump’s failure to end the war smacks of TDS. You aren’t a Trump hater, are you?

Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 20 2025 13:52 utc | 7

Spectator: Since 2022, Ukraine has officially opened about 230,804 criminal cases under the article “Desertion”
In total, more soldiers have deserted from the Ukrainian Armed Forces than are listed in the British, French and German armies combined.

https://t.me/ukr_leaks_eng/23096

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 20 2025 14:12 utc | 8

Spectator: Since 2022, Ukraine has officially opened about 230,804 criminal cases under the article “Desertion”
In total, more soldiers have deserted from the Ukrainian Armed Forces than are listed in the British, French and German armies combined.
https://t.me/ukr_leaks_eng/23096
Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 20 2025 14:12 utc | 8
Sensible men!
I wonder how many of the combined armies see the situation in a similar light?

Posted by: jpc | Jul 20 2025 14:15 utc | 9

Biden this, Trump that, TDS here and there. All nonsense, they are all the same – empire – there is no choice in the west – it’s continuity – empire or death. Stop with the nonsense – hope we can believe in and MAGA are the same trick coming from a different side.

Posted by: Eol | Jul 20 2025 14:23 utc | 10

Spectator: Since 2022, Ukraine has officially opened about 230,804 criminal cases under the article “Desertion”
In total, more soldiers have deserted from the Ukrainian Armed Forces than are listed in the British, French and German armies combined.
https://t.me/ukr_leaks_eng/23096
Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 20 2025 14:12 utc | 8
And for every smart deserter, 10 gave life or limbs for the privilege of being used to harass RF…
Not for ukraine, not for their families, just to piss off russia

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 20 2025 14:32 utc | 11

Zelensky wants to meet Putin in person.
“Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky has once again called for a personal meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, saying this is the only way to secure a lasting peace. Moscow considers this pointless until the countries’ delegations find some common ground.
Putin offered in May to resume direct negotiations – from the point at which Ukraine unilaterally abandoned talks in 2022. However, Zelensky challenged him to come and meet in Istanbul personally. Ukraine eventually agreed to send a delegation amid reported pressure from Washington, and since then the sides have held two rounds of talks, resulting in prisoner exchanges but no breakthrough toward ending the conflict.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 20 2025 14:32 utc | 12

The Neo-Nazi crushers cancel a military agreement with the one of the main Neo-Nazi supporters.
“Russia has terminated its decades-old military-technical cooperation agreement with Germany, which has become one of Ukraine’s main sponsors and weapons suppliers amid the conflict with Moscow.
Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin instructed the Foreign Ministry to inform Berlin that the 1996 pact – which has guided defense collaboration for nearly three decades – is no longer valid, according to a resolution signed on Friday.
In July, the ministry said the agreement lost its relevance due to what it described as Germany’s “openly hostile” policy and increasingly aggressive military ambitions. It accused Berlin of indoctrinating its population to view Russia as the primary adversary.
The Kremlin signaled growing unease with German rhetoric earlier this week. Spokesman Dmitry Peskov warned that Berlin is “becoming dangerous again” after Defense Minister Boris Pistorius stated that German troops are ready to kill Russian soldiers “if deterrence doesn’t work and Russia attacks.””

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 20 2025 14:34 utc | 13

The little French coke head Macron, has chosen his PM François Bayrou, to reduce public paid holidays to help fund a fantasy war with Russia.
The French public won’t tolerate this – from the little slapped faced coke head, expect riots in the streets of Paris etc, if it goes ahead

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 20 2025 14:42 utc | 14

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 20 2025 14:42 utc | 14
Yeah I dunno. When these frenchies were called to vote last time, they voted for mommy boy instead of for the only viable alternative. Parts of the left have also supported Bayrou in some confidence votes with which he was challenged in Feb. So don’t expect much of the French public. They aren’t yet ready to do anyhting meaningful or consequential, these cheese-eating welfarists.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 20 2025 15:16 utc | 15

The little French coke head Macron, has chosen his PM François Bayrou, to reduce public paid holidays to help fund a fantasy war with Russia.
The French public won’t tolerate this – from the little slapped faced coke head, expect riots in the streets of Paris etc, if it goes ahead
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 20 2025 14:42 utc | 14
“Fantasy war”
It’s a good way to describe the pointlessness of this butchering.
The Russians aren’t breaking.
And as it progresses are going to be far
less forgiving to the hubristic morons of Europe.

Posted by: jpc | Jul 20 2025 15:26 utc | 16

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 20 2025 14:32 utc | 12
Looking at the reshuffling of positions in the Ukrainian government, and especially considering the return of Zaluzhnyi to Ukraine, I wonder if Z wants his face to face meeting with Putin in order to ask for asylum. His time is nearly up, and he has to know it. I wonder if he has come to the conclusion that Russia is the safest place for him when NATO is done with him, but doesn’t trust anyone to relay that info to Putin.

Posted by: Caveman | Jul 20 2025 15:28 utc | 17

@Caveman | Jul 20 2025 15:28 utc
Very good guess. First thing I wondered. 2nd thing I wondered was “who else will be in the entourage to meet with Putin?”. That will tell a very interesting story.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jul 20 2025 15:32 utc | 18

So S has a new post (start is his take on B’s zelensky’s exit and S names B’s article)
Also some maps and comments worthwhile
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/out-of-options-west-again-floats

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 20 2025 15:39 utc | 19

“Spectator: Since 2022, Ukraine has officially opened about 230,804 criminal cases under the article “Desertion”
In total, more soldiers have deserted from the Ukrainian Armed Forces than are listed in the British, French and German armies combined.”
It is probable that most of these men are dead and by listing them as deserters Z Regime waives the compensation claims from their families.
Thomas

Posted by: Thomas | Jul 20 2025 15:40 utc | 20

Another German big mouthed warmongering military man urges his Neo-Nazi buddies in Ukraine to strike deep into Russia – Germany’s support for the Neo-Naz’s and the Zionists knows no bounds.
“Ukraine should consider striking Russian airfields and weapons factories deep inside the country to alleviate pressure on the front, a senior German general has suggested.
Speaking during a Bundeswehr podcast on Saturday, Major General Christian Freuding, who oversees Germany’s military assistance to Ukraine, gave Kiev advice on weakening Russia’s offensive power.
“You can also indirectly affect the offensive potential of Russian strike forces before they are deployed,” Freuding said. “Use long-range air warfare assets to strike aircraft and airfields before they are used. Also, target weapons production facilities.””

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 20 2025 15:47 utc | 21

Musk turns his eye towards the kids – maybe he’ll ask Trump for advice.
“Elon Musk has announced that his artificial intelligence startup, xAI, plans to launch a new app focused on kid-friendly content that will be called Baby Grok. The news comes as the company’s flagship chatbot, Grok, continues to face sharp criticism over a wide range of failures.
“We’re going to make Baby Grok at xAI, an app dedicated to kid-friendly content,” the US-based billionaire posted on X on Sunday, although he provided no further details or timeline for the app’s release.
The announcement comes months after Google announced the launch of its Gemini app for children, which offers help with homework, answers questions, and generates stories, while allowing parents to manage access through the Family Link app.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 20 2025 15:50 utc | 22

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jul 20 2025 15:32 utc | 18
Good call. I bet if we see someone like Budanov there, it means the war will continue, and Zelensky is there to live out some coke-fueled fantasy of telling Putin off to his face. Who, in your opinion, would signal what we are thinking? Who can he still trust to that extent?

Posted by: Caveman | Jul 20 2025 15:53 utc | 23

The last sentence is ironic as it suppresses freedoms – such as the freedom to support Communism.
“The Czech Republic has amended its criminal code to outlaw the promotion of communism, placing it on par with Nazi ideology. The legislation was signed on Thursday by President Petr Pavel, himself a former Communist Party member.
The amendment introduces prison terms of one to five years for anyone who “establishes, supports or promotes Nazi, communist, or other movements which demonstrably aim to suppress human rights and freedoms or incite racial, ethnic, national, religious, or class-based hatred.””

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 20 2025 15:54 utc | 24

hope we can believe in and MAGA are the same trick coming from a different side.
Eol | Jul 20 2025 14:23 utc | 10
I guess it’s my continued duty to explain America to non citizens so that outsiders may have a deeper understanding of the most dangerous country on earth.
First off, you are correct about empire – both political parties, the government and the whole *people* support Pax America.
Not necessarily the unsavory bits about killing innocent people, including children, but definitely the benefits accruing from the dollar system. It’s a small matter of massaging the brutal truth to assuage any concerns one might have. Hence the “they hate us for our freedoms”.
However, where so many get it wrong are the internal, domestic battles waged for control. Never forget that America is a highly race/class stratified society; everything is about group identity.
In this context, “change we can believe in” meant reducing white, middle class influence, to the extent that long standing laws, jurisprudence and tradition were overturned in favor of advancing minority portions of the pie.
This meant/means throwing open the borders to flood the country with illegals, converting the FBI into the Stasi, corrupting the courts (‘no standing’), and basically executing flagrant violations of any and sundry traditions.
MAGA of course is the exact opposite movement, with the primary purpose of restoring power not necessarily to just whites, but to a specific economic class, MoA’s favorite villain, yes the bourgeoisie.
So, if can keep this scorecard in mind, while there are distinct differences between winners and losers within the domestic sphere, all are united in support of, if not the messy details of maintaining/expanding empire, but absolutely the attendant privileges.

Posted by: Markw | Jul 20 2025 15:55 utc | 25

As the EU and Nato propagandise citizens to expect a war with Russia – Italians aren’t buying it.
“Only 16% of Italians are willing to fight for their country in the event of war, according to a survey by the Center for Social Investment Studies (CENSIS) published on Friday.
Almost a third of respondents believe Italy will be drawn into a conflict within the next five years, but fewer than one in six of those of fighting age say they would take up arms, the poll suggests. The figure is 21% among men, and 12% among women.
The findings come as NATO countries continue to pledge to support Ukraine “for as long as it takes.” Since the escalation of the conflict in 2022, European defense budgets have reached record highs. Several countries have reintroduced or are considering conscription. Sweden and Lithuania have reinstated mandatory military service; Germany and Poland are debating similar measures.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 20 2025 15:59 utc | 26

For Newbie, but any can comment.
My back of the envelope, quite literally, calculations about Russian strength in mid-summer ‘22
Limitations: oodles of them, not least the fact that true data during an ongoing conflict is impossible to find, so historical precedent, extrapolation and use of open-sources have been used. All figures are therefore approximations and in no way represent real deployments.
Methodology: Take the number from the initial invasion and use that to populate x number of divisions, as by this time of the conflict most BTG’s were being folded back into their parent divisional structures (brigades are populated from divisions so they have been amalgamated). The length of the active front is then divided by these divisions to give a LOC frontage per division. This figure is then subdivided down to the platoon level, so a frontage per individual can be calculated. Figures used for the various units are not book strengths but approximations and averages of open source material, eg, some Russian formations initially had only 60% of their manpower available, whilst some had official levels.
Length of the active front line: 1000km
Initial invasion force 125 BTG’s with an average strength of 650 = 81,250
Losses and reinforcements match so figure stays at the same range +/-5-10%
BTG’s folded into division structures with an average of 12K personnel, (figure based on the expectation that a division could create to 1-2 brigades with 3K per brigade
Number of divisions available = 81, 250/6.7 rounded up to 7
Frontage of each division 140km rounded down
Frontage per brigade 70km (operationally independent unit so full deployment, frontage of units below brigade have the frontage divided by two, to represent standard deployment, unless platoon where no 2/3 applied)
Frontage battalion 35km
Frontage company 17km
Frontage platoon 8.5 km
Frontage per man (22 man reduced strength platoon) 390m
Conclusions: a feasible figure given the continuing trend of expanding frontages for units, but any higher and it rapidly becomes operationally unsustainable (cf the Kharkov Front collapse in ‘22 because of a porous front and the use of para-military police).
This figure is for combat units of the Russian Army and does not include PMC’s (Wagner) and the various militias.
If this methodology is applied to later on we get a figure of 265K on the active front (45km div frontage/1000km active front), which seems reasonable, given reinforcement v’s loss rate and the ability, with NK, help to contain the Kursk salient.
All figures can be adjusted +/- 5-10% and the conclusion still remains valid.
So, 50K too little, 80-90 doable but shoestring Op, possibly explaining why the initial drive failed (tons of steel, very few boots) the inability to maintain offensive tempo beyond 2-3 axis, the failure to exploit initial capture of Kherson, the reinforcing of Kherson causing the collapse of the Kharkov front and the rapid calls for mobilisation after the operational defeat.
The above is the operational minimum figure, for Russian forces. if you want to increase the bayonet strength, reduce the frontages, increase the initial invasion force and or shorten the active front feel free. You need to remember though that the Russians big problem was their lack of troops and even doubling the force due to local support you’re still looking at a 200m per man front, or 20X the WW2 figure, whereas the normal multiplier is 10X for modern conflicts.
Sites that offer topographical mapping and filters for Ukraine
https://en-gb.topographic-map.com/map-wmv51/Ukraine/?center=50.87193%2C38.9759&zoom=10&popup=50.03664%2C45.08789
Topographic with adjustable LOS tool
https://www.scadacore.com/tools/rf-path/rf-line-of-sight/

Posted by: Milites | Jul 20 2025 16:27 utc | 27

20 – Probably a combination of the two. Kiev has generally paid attention to its propaganda image, and admitting to a six-figure number of desertion cases is not a particularly good look, even though the temptation to avoid compensation claims by marking someone as a deserter rather than dead must be there.

Posted by: Waldorf | Jul 20 2025 16:31 utc | 28

There’s a bomb waiting for Pootin the moment he goes to a despicable country like Turkey. Of course Ukie will be the fall guy as normal and get bitch slapped as per agreement between Russia and US/NATO.

Posted by: Surferket | Jul 20 2025 16:42 utc | 29

Video clip of protests in Ternopil region: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/07/20/1530687.html

A protest against the police and the TCC was organized by villagers in the Ternopil region in western Ukraine
A protest against the police and the TCC was organized by villagers in the Ternopil region in western Ukraine.
According to the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Artem Dmytruk, people took to the street en masse and blocked the entrance to their village, not allowing cars with military enlistment office and police officers to pass.
“In many localities [employees of the TCC] cannot even enter. People unite and fight back,” he wrote on his Telegram channel.
Source: Telegram “rentv_news”

And this is in Western Ukraine, where support for the Kiev junta is supposed to be the deepest. I guess they’re not so keen on being “The last Ukrainian”.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 20 2025 17:03 utc | 30

TDS; A partial accounting of the pandemics cost
While it’s sufferers cheer on any/all attacks upon Trump, the cost of their derangement continue to tally upward. This from Larry at Sonar21:
…we now know that the US launched a war on Russia based completely on a lie…
[Chief of the Clandestine Service] Rakusan saw President Putin’s subversion of the presidential election on Trump’s behalf as equivalent to 9/11” declassification of intel documents shows that Rakusan either had his head up his ass or was part of the conspiracy to attack Donald Trump with a lie (or both).
[A TDS infected hit piece] published by Foreign Policy’s Tim Weiner When the Threat Is Inside the White House: What CIA insiders make of the MAGA moles and toadies now in charge of U.S. national security While the intent of the article is to paint Trump and his team as a bunch of Russian toadies, Weiner unwittingly paints a picture of the CIA’s leadership as biased operators -> TDS sufferers with no understanding of Russia

But hey, when your whole goal in life is to elect DNCers like Hillary/Biden/Harris you gotta break a few Fabergé eggs…eh? All the TDSers on this board bear a share of the blame as you went along with the DNC/CIA’s scam in order to “get-Trump” I’d add, the reason Bobby and Tulsi could not be an alternative to Trump was because of TDSers support of Hillary/DNC/CIA’s tactics.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 20 2025 17:04 utc | 31

Posted by: Markw | Jul 20 2025 15:55 utc | 25
Good summary, thank goodness it was the US who had economic and military dominion during the 20th Century, and not Soviet Russia or Communist China, otherwise you’d never have been able to write a piece like that about either.

Posted by: Milites | Jul 20 2025 17:06 utc | 32

And this is in Western Ukraine, where support for the Kiev junta is supposed to be the deepest. I guess they’re not so keen on being “The last Ukrainian”.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 20 2025 17:03 utc | 30

I saw this NAFO post that was claiming Russia’s powerless since Kharkov remains relatively untouched this far into the SMO. LMAO. The only thing it proved was that the RF was NOT targeting civilians, and the Ukrainians themselves know this.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jul 20 2025 17:18 utc | 33

The TCC press-gangs seem intent on destroying their own credibility, and by implication that of the Kiev junta:

A doctor from Kharkiv was beaten to the intensive care unit while being detained by workers from the shopping center in Odessa
In Odessa, an incident involving a doctor from Kharkiv, who was injured, is being investigated
This was announced by People’s Deputy Alexey Goncharenko, reports RegioNews .
According to preliminary data, the man was detained by representatives of the TCC, after which a conflict arose between them. Witnesses claim that the detainee was beaten and then placed in a minibus.
During the incident, the medic was seriously injured. In particular, he was diagnosed with broken ribs and lung damage. The victim was hospitalized in the intensive care unit, where doctors are providing him with the necessary assistance. His condition is assessed as serious.
https://t.me/oleksiihoncharenko/48380?single
According to eyewitnesses, at first they tried to take the victim not to the hospital, but to the military medical commission. However, it was the commission doctor who insisted on immediate hospitalization, which probably saved the man’s life.
The territorial recruitment center reported that an internal check was scheduled to clarify all the circumstances of the incident. Now the actions of employees involved in the incident are being checked.
Earlier it was reported that in the Poltava region, a man with amputated feet was sentenced for evading mobilization.

https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/odesskaya/1753021214-likarya-z-harkova-pobili-do-reanimatsiyi-pid-chas-zatrimannya-pratsivnikami-z-ttsk-v-odesi (via translation add-on.)
I’m beginning to wonder if there is a deliberate attempt to provoke widespread pushback from the population, to try and destabilise the Kiev junta. Who really knows what is going on though?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 20 2025 17:20 utc | 34

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 20 2025 17:04 utc | 31
Literally nobody at this site went for the BS “Russiagate” crap, starting with the Steele Dossier all through Trump’s first term.
Also you might want to see the Week in Review where b linked Taibbi’s latest too-hopeful (IMO) pieces on the matter. My take on those is that, based on recent SCOTUS rulings, there will be no way to hold Obama accountable as what he did, he did while sitting in office. And we all know that Presidents are simply never going to be held accountable for their real crimes. See: Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, Bush I and II prior to Obama. IMHO this new Russiagate stuff is a distraction from Epstein, albeit something they had planned to deploy regardless. I agree with Johnson, though. It’s all of a piece – the Ukraine coup d’etat, Ukrainian “civil war”, Russiagate, Ukrainegate and the Russia-NATO war in Ukraine.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 20 2025 17:20 utc | 35

Markw 25,
Surprisingly, to some degree you are right.
Not the stuff about race…which you acknowledge with the line “..with the primary purpose of restoring power not necessarily to just whites, but to a specific economic class.” Even though legacy media does not show or, even acknowledge the reality that American Hispanics and Blacks are part of that “specific economic class”, the fact remains, they are. It’s not 1964. I served with black soldiers in the US Army, most, if not all were to the right of me in the 1980’s..yeah.
But I acknowledge that I too want to preserve “the American empire” just as I am sure the Chinese are ardently working to restore their empire. Oh, and Russia, under Putin, has restored it’s empire. India’s an unfinished piece of work work but, I wish them the best.
What I don’t want is the American Empire aping the English-Empire, meddling in others affairs, starting wars in order to weaken other states to which we have no direct interests. The American Empire can be strong and healthy if we just paid for “stuff” instead of trying to steal it for our elitist overlords overstuffed vaults. And honestly, paying for “stuff” is cheaper and more profitable than war.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 20 2025 17:36 utc | 36

another comment disappears…hmmm

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 20 2025 17:38 utc | 37

and just like that…reappears…hmmm?

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 20 2025 17:39 utc | 38

@S Brennan | Jul 20 2025 17:39 utc | 38
Because it is just a technical aspect of how this site works. Give it a couple of minutes before complaining. Btw. I tend to skip your long posts, signal to noise ratio is too low.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 20 2025 17:42 utc | 39

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 20 2025 17:20 utc | 35
I did not know about this site when the canned crap of the Russiagate hoax was opened but I wonder how many fellow travellers simply rejected it because Russia was implicated, not because Trump was innocent? Similarly, I wonder how many posters world-weary cynicism that nothing will be done is to conceal the fear that something will be done and therefore damage the walls of their reality.
Limited immunity based on the criteria that an action was carried out in the capacity of it being an official duty of the President, sedition against your legitimately elected successor is not an official duty, yet.
The plan to make the DS accountable for its litany of crimes starts, but does not end here, so I very much doubt the planned timetable had, release if the WSJ produces a poorly sourced story about Epstein. Once the public are use to the idea that Obama was a POS, not a political messiah, then the 2020 election gets looked at, as do the origins of COVID, then the auto-pen residency. People are like horses, run and scream at them and they bolt, gain their trust and they will follow where you lead them and the destination they’re headed requires careful handling.
Perhaps now the DS will reflect on the stupidity of charging and convicting Trump, because it set the precedent for Obama to suffer the same fate, though this time they’ll actually be evidence for the conviction. Ironic if Trump has to pardon him from his 20+year sentence, doubly ironic if the media-generated paragon becomes its party’s pariah.

Posted by: Milites | Jul 20 2025 17:52 utc | 40

24 – So Pavel was a former KSC member. It is pretty obvious that a great many in all socialist countries were basically careerists. It was said that there were a lot of party members, but few actual Communists. The evolution of people like Pavel underlines that.
The legislation however perhaps represents fear. In a climate of alleged austerity, there is plenty of money for military spending, and a Communist would be particularly likely to point out the contradiction.

Posted by: Waldorf | Jul 20 2025 18:23 utc | 41

Posted by: Milites | Jul 20 2025 17:52 utc | 40
Several topics rolled into one there, but I’ll try to respond concisely.
Re: Russigate Hoax @ MoA – You may not be giving “the bar” enough credit. The history is there to review if you have the time or inclination, but I was here through all of it, and there was definitely no memorable celebration of the ordeal just because it was aimed at Trump. Most of us did, as you surmised, definitely see and discuss the larger geopolitical ramifications and surrounding events, so yeah I saw it mainly through that lens. But frankly, it was more about the obvious injustice of it. And those who opposed Trump – from my memory – thought it was an obvious misdirection and waste of time when “the opposition” could easily have focused their energy on actual problems with him and his first administration. Nothing much different from how Obama was treated here, TBH.
Re: Epstein and/or the WSJ – Based on what I’ve seen since they broke their “scoop” about the sketch (IMO another complete waste of time and energy) it has come out that, in fact Trump *has been known* to sketch pictures with a black marker and several of them were auctioned with publicity. See Drudge for an example – I think they’ve got an NYT piece with several actual photos of Trump’s drawings, and they look similar in style to how the WSJ has described the alleged Epstein birthday drawing. I wouldn’t stake any hopes on their story being bogus, but again, it’s a nothingburger even if it’s true. My confusion would be why Trump said he NEVER has drawn stuff, when clearly he has. Why even bother addressing that rumor let alone bringing more attention to it with a planned lawsuit?
I don’t buy his and Bondi’s bullshit on the matter in general, though. The way they’ve gone about it is terrible for optics. I won’t go into a long diatribe about what I think the real reasons could be for not releasing the files (ex. implicates “intelligence” at high levels including Mossad/CIA/MI6, implicates Trump himself, implicates numerous high ranking politicians of both parties and a long history of both sides coalescing to hide the types of crimes both parties commit, etc.) – but I’m playing “wait and see” for the time being. I made my predictions in another thread and don’t really have much more to add. I do hope the files come out, though. Even if it means absolutely de-legitimizing the entire US government for everyone to see. In fact that’s exactly what I’d want to see. I don’t care if it takes down Trump or every high ranking current or past Dem or Repub. If I had to make a short prediction: They’ll do a limited hangout and frame it up like a huge scandal ala Watergate.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 20 2025 18:45 utc | 42

and just like that…reappears…hmmm?
Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 20 2025 17:39 utc | 38
I’ve been having the exact same issue for the past 2 days. I’ll add a comment at, say, #33 in a thread then hit refresh and it’s there. Then I’ll leave for several minutes and come back and there’s only 24 comments in the thread. Then a few minutes to an hour later, everything is back to normal.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 20 2025 18:47 utc | 43

“Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky has once again called for a personal meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, saying this is the only way to secure a lasting peace. Moscow considers this pointless until the countries’ delegations find some common ground. . .”
Hard to believe that Vlad would meet with Zelensky, who remains in power only through the assertion of martial law. Meeting with the green goblin would only serve to legitimize him.

Not necessarily the unsavory bits about killing innocent people, including children, but definitely the benefits accruing from the dollar system. It’s a small matter of massaging the brutal truth to assuage any concerns one might have. Hence the “they hate us for our freedoms”. . .
Posted by: Markw | Jul 20 2025 15:55 utc | 25

Whilst enjoying the benefits accruing from the dollar system, the American public is markedly uninterested in understanding just how such a disproportionate share of the worlds resources and industrial output ends up in their hands, in constrast to just how little the US actually produces. Connecting those dots might lead to a focused view of those unsavory bits. Can’t have that. Better to continue in ignorant bliss and accept the slogans.

Posted by: Mike R | Jul 20 2025 19:16 utc | 44

For Newbie, but any can comment.
Posted by: Milites | Jul 20 2025 16:27 utc | 27
Thank you!
Thought you had forgotten, but I see you didn’t.
“My back of the envelope, quite literally, calculations about Russian strength in mid-summer ‘22… Limitations: oodles of them… All figures are therefore approximations and in no way represent real deployments.”
Of course! We do what we can with what little we have.
“Initial invasion force 125 BTG’s with an average strength of 650 = 81,250”
I assumed a total force ear 104.000 and 80% engagement = 83 200 at hour zero advancing
I’ll say close enough, glad to see that.
“Losses and reinforcements match so figure stays at the same range +/-5-10% …. This figure is for combat units of the Russian Army and does not include PMC’s (Wagner) and the various militias.”
Now we start to diverge, not to say they were stingy but I modeled a total of 104.000, and added 40.000 wagners as regulars were put out of combat
“So, 50K too little, 80-90 doable but shoestring Op, possibly explaining why the initial drive failed (tons of steel, very few boots) the inability to maintain offensive tempo beyond 2-3 axis, the failure to exploit initial capture of Kherson, the reinforcing of Kherson causing the collapse of the Kharkov front and the rapid calls for mobilisation after the operational defeat.”
From march 2022 (and using wagner to reach and that number) between killed, invalids and wounded recovering, RF had do with half those “80-90 doable but shoestring” (maybe padded by some militia.
“cf the Kharkov Front collapse in ‘22 because of a porous front ” BINGO, at half shoestring a good retreat was as good as it gets.
So yes, went 81-83k, tried to hold near 45K and retreat they did
You say “If this methodology is applied to later on we get a figure of 265K on the active front (45km div frontage/1000km active front), which seems reasonable, given reinforcement v’s loss rate and the ability, with NK, help to contain the Kursk salient.
All figures can be adjusted +/- 5-10% ” so my doubt about the full AFU complement fighting those 45.000 RF september 2022 were likelier closer to 270.000 than 190.000 (assuming they didn’t go alf cocked)
I strongly suspect AFU tried (while it had the men for that) keep reasonable ratios (WW2 figure normal multiplier 10X ), but RF learned advantages of reduced exposure to LOC (averages hide huge variability and if before it was tactics of deceipt it is now easier due to AFU incapacity to lead a serious counter offensive)
Once again thank you, do correct any bad reasoning I might have taken, comment at will.

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 20 2025 19:21 utc | 45

For some reason Russia has activated the Volchansk front in the last few days. For those who haven’t looked at a map lately, this is a border area to the north-east of Kharkov city and has been fairly low-profile until now, with nothing more dramatic than minor holding skirmishes taking place:

“Tear apart” the enemy’s defense: information is coming in about the Russian Armed Forces forcing the Seversky Donets west of Volchansk
There are reports that Russian troops have crossed the Seversky Donets River west of Volchansk, creating a second bridgehead on this section of the front. Let us recall that the first bridgehead was created within the city limits – after crossing the Volchya River and taking control of the oil extraction plant, which the Ukrainian Armed Forces had turned into a powerful fortified area.
The enemy itself confirms the significant complication of the situation in the Vovchansk direction. In low-literary formulations in messengers, Ukrainian “volunteers” and military personnel write about how the situation for the Ukrainian Armed Forces has worsened in Vovchansk, as well as to the east and west of it.
The fighting is taking place along the line Tikhoe – Volchanskiye Khutor – Pokalyanoye. This is to the east of the city. In the area of Pokalyanoye, there is a powerful fire impact on the flank of the enemy’s defense. There, a multiple launch rocket system was destroyed along with its crew, and strikes aimed at breaking through the defensive lines of the Ukrainian Armed Forces continue there.
The fire impact in the area of Pokalyany and Vovchanskiye Khutors significantly reduces the enemy’s ability to quickly transfer forces and resources between Vovchansk and the north-east of the Kharkov region. Several days ago, the Russian Armed Forces liberated the village of Degtyarnoye on the north-eastern “outskirts” of the Kharkov region.
The creation of a new bridgehead, now also to the west of Volchansk, could allow the enemy’s defense to be “pulled apart” in this direction.

https://en.topwar.ru/268353-razdergat-oboronu-protivnika-postupajut-svedenija-o-forsirovanii-vs-rf-severskogo-donca-zapadnee-volchanska.html

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 20 2025 19:29 utc | 46

@44
Zelensky can meet Putin in Moscow to sign the papers for ukraines unconditional surrender.

Posted by: Fred777 | Jul 20 2025 19:36 utc | 47

Hot off the press, a new Marat update: https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-frontline-report-july-20th focussing on developments around Konstantinavka.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 20 2025 19:37 utc | 48

🇩🇪🏴‍☠️🇺🇦 Germany plans to buy Patriot missiles for Ukraine worth 5 billion euros, said the head of the German AfD party, Alice Weidel.
In an interview with the public broadcaster ARD, Weidel stated that the German government could reduce the electricity price for Germans by canceling a tax of 5.4 billion euros per year. Instead, much larger sums are sent to Kyiv.
“And instead, our state, the government of Friedrich Merz, is giving Ukraine nine billion euros of German taxes and now wants to purchase Patriot missiles for Ukraine worth five billion. Nobody understands this anymore,” said Weidel.
She did not specify whether the five billion would be spent only on missiles or also on launchers. The German authorities had not previously disclosed exact amounts.

Posted by: Jo | Jul 20 2025 19:58 utc | 49

For some reason Russia has activated the Volchansk front in the last few days.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 20 2025 19:29 utc | 46
Meawhile marat focuses aronud Konstantinovka
https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-frontline-report-july-20th
For casualties, 1.255 it is

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 20 2025 20:18 utc | 50

For some reason Russia has activated the Volchansk front in the last few days.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 20 2025 19:29 utc | 46

The RF command must have a ball saying… “Hey, let’s hit’em there now!”. The AFU has a very long front and too few soldiers therefore the RF must always be identifying targets of opportunity based upon what causes AFU the most operational distress.
Not only does this keep the AFU completely off-balance it also prevents them from concentrating defenses on key targets like Pokrovsk since literally any other part of the front could break wide open with just a little added pressure.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jul 20 2025 20:19 utc | 51

German government could reduce the electricity price for Germans by canceling a tax of 5.4 billion euros per year.
Posted by: Jo | Jul 20 2025 19:58 utc | 49
Germany is a very rich country, with a very rich population. If they can afford to pay an import doctor with 10k per month when France pays less than half for the same job, they can give Ukr 15-20b per year and won’t even notice the difference. The electricity cost will not affect most of them, only the poor, which can be sent to Ukr. It’ll take many years until the population will feel costs and whatis happening to them, as can be seen in the election results. Ukr costs for Nato will go down as the population gets smaller, the fake economy gets smaller and they only have to pay for weapons and relatively small terrorist groups to kill and blow up stuff, spread dirty bombs, chemicals and diseases.

Posted by: rk | Jul 20 2025 20:23 utc | 52

Paranaense | Jul 20 2025 13:52 utc | 7
Smacks with Gruff’s Three Letter Agency won’t do you no good.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 20 2025 20:26 utc | 53

Is a very bad look and straight out of the Kissinger play book. Larry Johnson should have known better.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 20 2025 12:33 utc | 1
911 Collateral Damage. Treason inside the Soviet Union.

Posted by: Naive | Jul 20 2025 20:40 utc | 54

literally any other part of the front could break wide open with just a little added pressure.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jul 20 2025 20:19 utc | 51
Yes, these days it generally seems to be the case that Russian forces poke and probe at an area and if they meet notable resistance they fall back, shell and bomb seven bells out of the area, then go back for another look. On other hand, if there is little/token resistance then the push is on.
There are still some other fronts that have been in a kind of stasis that wait to be fired up.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 20 2025 20:57 utc | 55

Posted by: Eol | Jul 20 2025 14:23 utc | 10

hope we can believe in

while hedging their bets.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 20 2025 21:12 utc | 56

Posted by: rk | Jul 20 2025 20:23 utc | 52
You truly don’t know what you are talking about – Germany is rich, yes, but there is general dissatisfaction with the price increases and post Covid inflation – the state of public transportation (constant strikes) – it’s not a rosy picture as you state – specially as Germany is and has fallen behind on what made them rich in the first place. Germany is in dire need of re-investment, digitalisation if it wants to keep being rich – and that in like with losing their supply go cheap energy.

Posted by: Eol | Jul 20 2025 21:16 utc | 57

Johan Kaspar | Jul 20 2025 15:16 utc | 15

Yeah I dunno. When these frenchies were called to vote last time, they voted for mommy boy instead of for the only viable alternative. Parts of the left have also supported Bayrou in some confidence votes with which he was challenged in Feb. So don’t expect much of the French public. They aren’t yet ready to do anyhting meaningful or consequential, these cheese-eating welfarists.

Connard ! On n’a pas voté pour cette merde du tout ! There were some, rather obvious manipulations to keep him in power !
La plupart des français ne peuvent pas sentir ce couillon !

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Jul 20 2025 21:54 utc | 58

“Bouquets” of Geraniums reportedly airborne tonight, from several channels. Tu-95s and MiG-31Ks also reported to be active.
The persistently increasing tempo of Russian drone and missile strikes over the last few weeks is something I can’t recall seeing previously in the SMO.
Still, once upon a time the Western MSM confidently assured me that “Russia is running out of missiles”…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 20 2025 21:55 utc | 59

Republicofscotland | Jul 20 2025 15:54 utc | 24
*** “The amendment introduces prison terms of one to five years for anyone who “establishes, supports or promotes Nazi, communist, or other movements which demonstrably aim to suppress human rights and freedoms or incite racial, ethnic, national, religious, or class-based hatred.””***
So will it outlaw NATO, MI6, Soros and the CIA?

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 20 2025 22:00 utc | 60

Republicofscotland | Jul 20 2025 15:54 utc | 24
***…. or other movements which demonstrably aim to suppress human rights and freedoms or incite racial, ethnic, national, religious, or class-based hatred.”” ***
Including movements such as Zionism?
And if not, why not ….

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 20 2025 22:06 utc | 61

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 20 2025 15:54 utc | 24
Posted by: Cynic | Jul 20 2025 22:06 utc | 61
Especially that verbal bowel movement which demonstrably aims to do just that.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 20 2025 22:25 utc | 62

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 20 2025 19:29 utc | 46
That news is several days old. DPA posted the crossing of the river days ago, When on form he seems very accurate

Posted by: watcher | Jul 20 2025 22:34 utc | 63

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 20 2025 19:29 utc | 46
That news is several days old. DPA posted the crossing of the river days ago, When on form he seems very accurate

Posted by: watcher | Jul 20 2025 22:35 utc | 64

Posted by: Markw | Jul 20 2025 15:55 utc | 25
Fuck off, Mark. You don’t speak for or to anyone in the US. If you have something to say about jacking off alone in ones basement, at least it would come with imprimatur of experience.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 20 2025 23:05 utc | 65

Whilst enjoying the benefits accruing from the dollar system, the American public is markedly uninterested in understanding just how such a disproportionate share of the worlds resources and industrial output ends up in their hands, in constrast to just how little the US actually produces. Connecting those dots might lead to a focused view of those unsavory bits. Can’t have that. Better to continue in ignorant bliss and accept the slogans.
Posted by: Mike R | Jul 20 2025 19:16 utc | 44
Not you too, Mike? You might not know this but attacking the domestic slaves of the ruling class just helps the ruling class. Mark is a fucking agent of Imperialism posing as an opponent. He’s not a legitimate source of information or perspective, like the normal people who come to the bar.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 20 2025 23:09 utc | 66

https://greencrowasthecrowflies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/image-5.png?w=680
No comment from my part, except that a photo is worth more than 1000 words.

Posted by: Naive | Jul 20 2025 23:32 utc | 67

Posted by: Jo | Jul 20 2025 19:58 utc | 49
It’s clear case of voters’ apathy. They don’t care what the party they voted for does. They vote out of ideological identity with the party. Not what that party actually does once in power.

Posted by: Surferket | Jul 20 2025 23:57 utc | 68

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 20 2025 15:16 utc | 15
You are wrong. Bayrou is still first minister because the extreme right refused to vote against him, not the left. Btw the socialist party is not the left. It is pretending and only pretending.

Posted by: Naive | Jul 21 2025 0:09 utc | 69

…same issue for the past 2 days. I’ll add a comment..refresh and it’s there. Then [gone]. Then [later], everything is back” – Tom_Q_Collins 43
To me it’s weird but, Norwegian claims it’s always been this way, it’s just that we mere mortals never noticed:
..it is just a technical aspect of how this site works. [don’t] complain” – Norwegian 39
Fair enough. However, Norwegian also claims he doesn’t read my comments because, he’s discerned through what one would presume are clairvoyant powers that the “….”signal to noise ratio is too low“. – Norwegian 39
So, dunno who to believe my lying eyes or Norwegian.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 21 2025 0:29 utc | 70

@Caveman | Jul 20 2025 15:53 utc | 23, who asked re: Zelensky meeting with Putin, possibly to negotiate an survival path for himself:

Who, in your opinion, would signal what we are thinking? Who can he still trust to that extent?

Caveman: as you pointed out, Budanov would ostensibly be there to prevent such a discussion, but Budanov has the Zelensky problem, even worse. If somehow Zelensky gets asylum, Budonov is beyond toast. Zelensky has to get out with himself and (possibly) his wife; he’s got his parents installed already in Israel (my understanding, pls correct if I’m off-base).
So Budanov being there isn’t necessarily a tell. A big entourage is; because there’s more leak potential.
So far as I can tell, Zelensky can’t trust anyone. So, small entourage, a long discussion, not much “readout” would be what I’d expect if Zelensky’s looking for an exit.
After having said that, I’m not sure Zelensky would last long in Russia. He’s killed too many people of Russian descent, both in Russia and in Ukraine. He’d never be safe.
Israel’s his best bet. Even the U.S. wouldn’t be a safe place for him; borders are too easily crossed.
Zelensky doesn’t need Putin’s help to get installed in Israel. The more I think about it, the less likely it seems for Russia to provide asylum to Zelensky … unless Putin decides to facilitate the exit path (plane, security force) in the interest of destabilizing Ukraine.
Putin has to be wondering, tho, if he really wants Zelensky to leave Ukraine. Zelensky is now a very lame duck leader, surrounded by hostiles, in an increasingly unstable situation, and Zelensky doesn’t know how to handle it, and his erstwhile “allies” are throwing in the towel, so he’s the perfect guy for the job of riding the ship to the bottom. I think that’s why Putin never had Zelensky killed; he’s a legit target ever since the SMO was re-cast as a terrorism operation.
The other possibility is for U.K. to take Zelensky into U.K, and swap in Zaluzhnyi. That makes more sense, and U.K. can provide the security detail and transport to get Zelenski out.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jul 21 2025 1:00 utc | 71

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 21 2025 0:29 utc | 70
Just thinking “outside the box” to use some cliche corporate bullshitspeak, it’s possible we’re all correct at the same time.
I’ve been using a different location through my proxy/VPN lately, but I haven’t controlled for enough variables or bothered to check for a large enough sample size to know anything for sure, but perhaps the issue could be the IP range we’re all three posting from. I can say for sure that this has *not* always been an issue for *me* having used multiple other IP addresses, so I’m leaning more in your direction on the issue. It only started happening to me a few days ago. I’m assuming – or presuming – what I described is what you describe. Namely, our own comments posting, and then not only our own, but like 5 to 10 previous ones just suddenly disappearing on refresh only to re-appear a few refreshes later or after having blown it off and coming back. Fucked up thing from my end is that I have yet to have a double post happen, which is an issue I’ve experienced here in the past. I make a post, it hangs or fails to take, I hit “post” again even after waiting for a period to make sure it’s not just delayed and then still having the same comment appear twice in a row.
Oh well. Short answer is I’m having what I think is the exact same issue as you the past few days.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 21 2025 1:01 utc | 72

Tom Pfotzer @ 71:

… The other possibility is for U.K. to take Zelensky into U.K, and swap in Zaluzhnyi. That makes more sense, and U.K. can provide the security detail and transport to get Zelenski out …

… until such time as the UK finds keeping Zelensky and his wife Elena in the manner they are accustomed to, proves too onerous, or the neighbours complain about too many coke parties at their country mansion.
Zelensky would actually be much safer serving a life sentence in a remote Siberian prison, at least until MI6 manage to find him there.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jul 21 2025 1:14 utc | 73

DNI Release Reveals Obama Admin Criminality
https://x.com/bears_with/status/1947009004397301906
“Each of the 27 Obama Admin officials at this White House meeting is a criminal in fabricating Russiagate lies to advance US Ukraine war aims.”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 21 2025 1:28 utc | 74

“Each of the 27 Obama Admin officials at this White House meeting is a criminal in fabricating Russiagate lies to advance US Ukraine war aims.”
Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 21 2025 1:28 utc | 74
LOL, except SCOTUS just recently said NOTHING the Executive does while in office can possibly be prosecuted as criminal. Besides, what about Shrub..or Clinton..or Bush II…or Reagan…or Carter..or Ford or Nixon or JFK or…..
Thinking any ex-prez including Obama or Trump will ever be (successfully) prosecuted for ANYTHING in this lifetime is the epitome of bullshit and falling for distractions.
To put it another way, us westerners including Americans live under a PERMANENT “state of exception” and it’s enabled by Congress and more importantly in some regards, SCOTUS. Maybe if Obama had fucked a Jewish chick whose name ended in …sky we’d see him prosecuted in some fashion (and by that I mean a blue dress with a cumstain).

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 21 2025 1:43 utc | 75

It’s both comical and indicative of a totally fucked up worldview to think (or want for) previous US presidential administrations will (to) be criminally prosecuted for laughably common things like treason or cheating the other party when all of them, if the door is opened for the previous type of prosecution, would suddenly be on the hook for all the literal war crimes and crimes against humanity they commit at the direction of the deep-state/overworld nexus – plus the political will would have to be there on the part of both sides of the uniparty inasmuch as (job requirement) executive crimes are concerned. Again, LOL. IF Obama gets dragged into any sort of criminal trial for staging Russiagate, I’ll fuckin eat my shoes…and my boots.
Remember kids, where the rubber hits the road, “we” look forward and not backwards.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 21 2025 1:49 utc | 76

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 21 2025 0:29 utc | 70
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 21 2025 1:01 utc | 72
Same.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 21 2025 1:50 utc | 77

@ S Brennan | Jul 21 2025 0:29 utc | 70
new feature at moa i guess… just relax.. your post goes thru and then disappears for a few minutes and then comes back..

Posted by: james | Jul 21 2025 2:01 utc | 78

new feature at moa i guess… just relax.. your post goes thru and then disappears for a few minutes and then comes back..
Posted by: james | Jul 21 2025 2:01 utc | 78
_______
This has happened before, but infrequently. Typepad seems prone to occasional migraines.

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 21 2025 2:05 utc | 79

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 21 2025 1:43 utc | 75
What does the Supreme Court immunity ruling mean for Trump? 6 questions answered https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-does-the-supreme-court-ruling-mean-for-trump-6-questions-answered
AI Overview
A sitting US president can be indicted and prosecuted for crimes, including those committed before taking office or while in office. While there was a Department of Justice policy stating a sitting president couldn’t be tried while in office, the Supreme Court has affirmed that a president is not above the law and can be held accountable.
Here’s a more detailed explanation:
No absolute immunity:
The Supreme Court has clarified that a sitting president does not have absolute immunity from criminal prosecution. While some argue for immunity for official acts, the court has emphasized that a president is not above the law and can be held accountable for crimes, including those committed before or during their time in office.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 21 2025 2:08 utc | 80

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 21 2025 2:08 utc | 80
LOL OK so talk to me when the appetite exists, the prosecutions start, and Obama or Bush are in shackles. In other words, when pigs fucking fly.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 21 2025 2:15 utc | 81

@ malenkov | Jul 21 2025 2:05 utc | 79
it seems slightly different this time – the past week or so for me.. what happens is your message appears and then a while later 6 or 7 messages go missing and then ‘wait a while’ and they all magically appear again… probably would help if b or typepad made a public announcement to this effect to not have to see others talking about it, or worse – freaking out their message has gone…

Posted by: james | Jul 21 2025 2:15 utc | 82

Good god some are so naive. So much so that their partisan or naive wishes are projected onto my cynical but accurate view of reality.
If anyone is telling you that Trump will oversee the prosecution of Obomber for any actual crime, SCAD or war crime, then the sky’s the limit. IOW the collapse of the pretend legitimacy of the US Government by way of the executive.
C’mon…some of y’all need to wake the fuck up. Especially in light of the Epstein stuff. I’t’aint’ gon’ happen. The overworld takes care of its issues via limited hangouts to include impeachment over sex improprieties including child porn and trafficking, not the actual crimes the USG vis-a-vis the fall guy executive commits.
Naive babes in the crib, waiting for slaughter.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 21 2025 2:19 utc | 83

james | Jul 21 2025 2:15 utc | 82
Don’t worry about it james. Trump canned a bunch of U$ govt depts and NGOS.
It’s just taking longer for our posts to be saved onto a rusty 3LA server in an offshore shithole.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 21 2025 2:21 utc | 84

Posted by: james | Jul 21 2025 2:15 utc | 82
Yup exactly. SBrennan and I have discussed in the O/T. Something is up with MoA and/or TypePad this week. New “ex” Unit 8200 employees maybe? Hope ur using a proxy/VPN. LOL

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 21 2025 2:21 utc | 85

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 20 2025 17:20 utc | 35
My take on those is that, based on recent SCOTUS rulings, there will be no way to hold Obama accountable as what he did, he did while sitting in office. And we all know that Presidents are simply never going to be held accountable for their real crimes. See: Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, Bush I and II prior to Obama. IMHO this new Russiagate stuff is a distraction from Epstein, albeit something they had planned to deploy regardless. I agree with Johnson, though. It’s all of a piece – the Ukraine coup d’etat, Ukrainian “civil war”, Russiagate, Ukrainegate and the Russia-NATO war in Ukraine.
<= this is an example that demonstrates the need for a 2nd government. The 2nd government governs those who are in position to govern humans by, through or on account of a nation state, institution, military, corporation, NGO, partnership, trust or any other entity that is created by, or that gets its authority from an earth created entity or organization. Because the charter, constitution and laws of the 2nd government have been written by our maker, there is no reason to rewrite them. just codify them (human rights) for clarity and translate the codification into every language. The purpose of the 2nd government then is to contain and restrain those who control the awesome powers of organizations (including government) to activities that do not infringe human rights. Leave the governing to Caesar, but make sure Caesar’s government does not violate human rights. Those in control of the actions and decisions of the nations of the nation state system must be made to respect the uninalienable rights. Mankind is the only global class of people; it includes every man, women and child.. Mankind’s uninalienable rights transcend national and organizational boundaries, trumps legal rules, and subordinates all classes of power to the rules and laws our maker has given, in equal proportion, to everyone.
The UN failed because it was and is an organization of, by and between the leaders of the nations that make up the nation state system. Leaders change and the interest of these nations are each different, and the politics of each nation is different, so the representatives at the UN are always in conflict mode. Humanity has no conflicts; every man, woman and child has the right to life, liberty, justice, the right to to determine for themselves where they wish to live and to decide for themselves who should rule in the place humans live.
The rules that defend the un inalienable human rights are well known and easy to apply: the leaders of the nations of the world must not command the nations (or other organizations) they rule to do things or not to do things that do not adhere to their obligation not to use the power of the nation state (or othr organization) in ways that infringe human rights.
Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 20 2025 17:36 utc | 36
What I don’t want is the American Empire aping the English-Empire, meddling in others affairs, starting wars in order to weaken other states to which we have no direct interests. The American Empire can be strong and healthy if we just paid for “stuff” instead of trying to steal it for our elitist overlords over-stuffed vaults. And honestly, paying for “stuff” is cheaper and more profitable than war.
<= Yes the 2nd government, the one based in human rights, is the only answer capable to achieve your wish. and your statement brings up another point.. capitalism is about competition, monopolism is about biasing capitalism, with purpose to eliminate competitors. when nation state governments grant monopoly powers to private parties they become complicit in violating the uninalienable human rights. Protecting monopoly powers and advantageous position (exclusion of competitors and rules that grant monopoly power) are the basic cause of conflict.. at nearly all levels of human endeavors.

Posted by: snake | Jul 21 2025 2:40 utc | 86

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 21 2025 2:15 utc | 81
Do any of these apply in Obama’s case?
Core Constitututional Powers [absolute criminal immunity]
2. Executive Branch (President):
Commander-in-Chief:
The President leads the armed forces and can deploy troops, though Congress has the power to declare war.
Treaty Making:
The President can negotiate treaties, but they require Senate ratification.
Appointment Powers:
The President appoints ambassadors, judges, and other officials with the advice and consent of the Senate.
Veto Power:
The President can veto legislation passed by Congress, but Congress can override the veto with a two-thirds vote.
Enforcement of Laws:
The President is responsible for faithfully executing the laws passed by Congress.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 21 2025 2:46 utc | 87

Ukrainians were definitely projecting their own slave mentality on Russia.
Prime example of a slave culture where they cannot leave the country, get beaten to death and kidnapped into vans daily, get paid nothing, while their ethnically Jewish comedian dictator gets rich along with his posse and trades national resources to other nations for more weapons.
At the end, the people get the government they deserve. Every. Single. Time.

Posted by: 15 | Jul 21 2025 2:50 utc | 88

‘The Ukraine conflict has turned many geopolitical givens upside down…’
Worlds Apart: Ferocity or Animosity?
https://www.rt.com/shows/worlds-apart-oksana-boyko/
“Tony Norfield, author of ‘The City: Land of the Global Power of Finance.”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 21 2025 2:55 utc | 89

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 20 2025 17:39 utc | 38
“another comment disappears…hmmm
and just like that…reappears…hmmm?”
I’ve noticed the same things in the last week or two. Post a comment and it will disappear for a few minutes or several hours, then suddenly it comes back. I’m using Brave browser and don’t know if that’s the problem.

Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 21 2025 2:55 utc | 90

presumptive immunity defined
AI Overview
Presumptive immunity, in the context of presidential powers, means that a president is assumed to be immune from criminal prosecution for actions taken within the “outer perimeter” of their official duties. This immunity isn’t absolute, but it places the burden on the prosecution to prove that the president’s actions were not related to their official responsibilities.
Burden of Proof:
The key implication is that if a prosecutor wants to pursue charges against a president for actions within this “outer perimeter,” they must demonstrate that the actions were not official, or were outside the scope of the president’s duties.
Protecting Executive Function:
The rationale behind presumptive immunity is to safeguard the independence and effective functioning of the executive branch by preventing the distraction and potential abuse of legal proceedings related to official acts.
So there you have it. Status Quo. …

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 21 2025 3:22 utc | 91

Tom Pfotzer | Jul 21 2025 1:00 utc | 71
*** The other possibility is for U.K. to take Zelensky into U.K, and swap in Zaluzhnyi. That makes more sense, and U.K. can provide the security detail and transport to get Zelenski out.***
A very rich Zelensky scuttling into the UK with his loot at a time of government imposed austerity, price rises and regime claims of “there’s no money!” — while at the same time splashing out billions to Ukraine and Israel — would not go down well with the public. Starmer and his gang are already widely detested, and might hesitate to make themselves even more so.

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 21 2025 3:25 utc | 92

Tulsi Gabbard Teases More Details of ‘Obama Coup Plot’ (& vid)
https://www.rt.com/news/621742-gabbard-obama-coup-plot/
“The US intel chief has vowed to hold those behind the the ‘treasonous’ Russiagate conspiracy accountable:
‘Those accountable, no matter how powerful they are or were at that time, no matter who was involved in creating this treasonous conspiracy against the American people, they must all be held accountable.’

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 21 2025 3:34 utc | 93

Posted by: Surferket | Jul 20 2025 23:57 utc | 68
“It’s clear case of voters’ apathy. They don’t care what the party they voted for does. They vote out of ideological identity with the party. Not what that party actually does once in power.”
Posted by: Eol | Jul 20 2025 14:23 utc | 10
“All nonsense, they are all the same – empire – there is no choice in the west – it’s continuity – empire or death. Stop with the nonsense – hope we can believe in and MAGA are the same trick coming from a different side.
I strongly disagree. There might not be much difference foreign policy wise (I had hoped Trump would stop the wars) there’s a huge, undeniable difference domestically. Price are stabilizing, inflation has dropped, the flood of illegals coming across the border to take our jobs and enjoy our benefits has slowed to a trickle.
The last jobs report showed jobs held by foreign born workers is down 400,000 and by American born workers is up over 2,000,000. The war against fossil fuels, including clean burning gas, has been stopped in it’s tracks and green electricity is having it’s lavish subsidies cut so it will have to become profitable without taxpayer assistance. You can’t convince me that any of this would have happened under Biden or Kamala. There is a HUGE difference domestically. Unfortunately, not much difference in regards to the rest of the world. I’m still hoping things might change, but I am disappointed.

Posted by: Paranaense | Jul 21 2025 3:47 utc | 94

paranoia and conspiracy / coincidence theorists – we’re a real pair, lol…

Posted by: james | Jul 21 2025 3:56 utc | 95

TNA: Brian Berletic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3S-C7hZn2Y
“Russian army overwhelms Ukraine as war escalates following false US ‘peace’ offer.”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 21 2025 6:07 utc | 96

I wonder if anyone shares the same view that Ukraine is not the issue, just like nuclear weapons was never the issue with Iran.
The issues are Iran and Russia as they now exist. In opposition to Hegemony. Same with China.
I see Trump has threatened to destroy BRICS+ too.

Posted by: Suresh | Jul 21 2025 6:26 utc | 97

Posted by: Milites | Jul 20 2025 16:27 utc | 27

RAF is winning and that’s all that counts.

Posted by: pepe | Jul 21 2025 6:39 utc | 98

Posted by: Eol | Jul 20 2025 21:16 utc | 57

And three (3) years in recession, thank you very much!.

Posted by: pepe | Jul 21 2025 6:52 utc | 99

Posted by: pepe | Jul 21 2025 6:39 utc | 98
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Russia is winning. Ansar Allah is winning. Iran is winning. China is winning.
NATO can only do terrorism. Everyone knows the West is weak and cannot back up their threats.
The world has changed and Boomers still think the American military is a Rambo movie.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 21 2025 6:56 utc | 100