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July 13, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-156
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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The western borders of Ukraine are covered with barbed wire, drones patrol the sky, and video cameras on every pole monitor violators. Posted by: Rahul | Jul 15 2025 16:59 utc | 201 Victor Orban chimes in on the topic of the Ukrainian press-gangs:
https://en.topwar.ru/268039-premer-vengrii-prizval-evrosojuz-prinjat-mery-protiv-prinuditelnoj-mobilizacii-na-ukraine.html Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 15 2025 17:54 utc | 202 Marat Khairullin update for today: https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-frontline-report-july-15th Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 15 2025 19:38 utc | 203 Former Ukrainian Prime Minister Nikolay Azarov notes that it is illegal in Ukraine to replace Prime Minister during martial law (source):
Posted by: S | Jul 15 2025 20:04 utc | 204 I’m sorry but I was sayimg this before the elections. Anyone thinking there’s a difference between dems and reps when it comes to foreign policy is a mor*n. The bloodlust americans have for continuous wars doesn’t magically change from one admin to the other. Trump knew he couldn’t stop the war, he’s just making this massive escalation look like Russia’s fault. Russia will suffer if nothing’s done. Posted by: brutal wizerd | Jul 15 2025 20:13 utc | 205
Posted by: S | Jul 15 2025 20:04 utc | 204 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 15 2025 20:22 utc | 206 Reeves the UK chancellor intends to effectively scrap regulation of the banks / financial institutions … presumably so they can do yet another 2008 type ripoff of the public. Posted by: Cynic | Jul 15 2025 21:32 utc | 207 Marat Khairullin update for today: https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-frontline-report-july-15th Posted by: Newbie | Jul 15 2025 22:57 utc | 208 @eoekas | Tue, 15 Jul 2025 13:09:00 GMT | 192
None of that was agreed to by Ukraine, the main party that needed to agree. And, Russia needs a guarantee that Ukraine will not join NATO…ever. Until then, the SMO continues apace. Posted by: James M. | Jul 16 2025 0:21 utc | 209 @Newbie | Tue, 15 Jul 2025 13:40:00 GMT | 194
My thinking is option 3 – everything continues on as it has for the past 3.5 years. Ukraine isn’t close to collapse, and sanctions aren’t going to dent Russia. Also, Trump is known for over-promising and under-delivering. It’s been his MO his whole life. He’s bluffing when it comes to Russia, and Putin knows he’s bluffing. Posted by: James M. | Jul 16 2025 0:27 utc | 210 My thinking is option 3 – everything continues on as it has for the past 3.5 years. Posted by: Newbie | Jul 16 2025 0:31 utc | 211 Sorry, had meant to post “Jul 15 2025 21:32 utc | 207” Posted by: Cynic | Jul 16 2025 3:15 utc | 212 @Newbie | Wed, 16 Jul 2025 00:31:00 GMT | 211
I don’t think NATO enters. The Europeans will bluff, and huff, and puff, but that’s about it. They will cut bait on Ukraine. Posted by: James M. | Jul 16 2025 5:56 utc | 213 Hey there, Posted by: M. Paraplu | Jul 16 2025 9:33 utc | 214 ive noticed that theres always one person asking for some old video footage of things that would go against the western narrative, and i simply cant shake this feeling off that those people are trying to find “loose ends” to purge them. Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 16 2025 11:12 utc | 215 not enough ukrainians left. nato enters (and we get european global war 3 or WW3) or gets off the pot Posted by: Newbie | Jul 16 2025 11:31 utc | 216 Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 16 2025 11:12 utc | 215 Posted by: Avtonom | Jul 16 2025 12:17 utc | 217 Posted by: James M. | Jul 16 2025 5:56 utc | 213 Posted by: Avtonom | Jul 16 2025 12:21 utc | 218 So 1.255 AFU casualties + 1AD +1 MiG-29 Posted by: Newbie | Jul 16 2025 13:35 utc | 219 ‘Sanctions Are Necessary To Starve Russia of the Means to Wage This War’ (& vid) Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 16 2025 18:40 utc | 220
https://www.ir-press.ru/2025/07/16/ukrainian-politics-in-a-zugzwang/ Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 16 2025 19:41 utc | 221 So 1.255 AFU casualties + 1AD +1 MiG-29 Posted by: Newbie | Jul 16 2025 19:42 utc | 222 @ Newbie | Jul 16 2025 19:42 utc | 222 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 16 2025 20:13 utc | 223 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 16 2025 20:13 utc | 223 Posted by: Newbie | Jul 16 2025 21:52 utc | 224 @Avtonom | Wed, 16 Jul 2025 12:21:00 GMT | 218
How many times has NATO been “activated” in the past? How many of those times was the US involved? Without the US, the Europeans don’t have the will to fight Russia. Who, realistically, will send troops to Ukraine to fight Russia, knowing Article 5 cannot be implemented? Posted by: James M. | Jul 16 2025 22:06 utc | 225 So 1.255 AFU casualties + 1AD +1 MiG-29 Posted by: Newbie | Jul 17 2025 0:09 utc | 226 A good fragging is always a good sign Posted by: Newbie | Jul 17 2025 0:31 utc | 227 Posted by: James M. | Jul 16 2025 22:06 utc | 225 Posted by: Avtonom | Jul 17 2025 6:27 utc | 228 Couple of good ones from DD Geopolitics Posted by: Newbie | Jul 17 2025 9:10 utc | 229 More details on AD taken out, a good old S300, barely 100 kms from LOC Posted by: Newbie | Jul 17 2025 9:27 utc | 230 |
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