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July 8, 2025
Ukraine – Drone Mass Production Lets Russia Gain Upper Hand

The Russian military has increased its operational tempo in Ukraine. There is (still) no big arrow movement but a rise in activity along the frontline.

On top of this come frequent drone and missile raids deep into the territory of Ukraine. The numbers are mind boggling:

Tatarigami_UA @Tatarigami_UA – 14:49 UTC · Jul 8, 2025

Since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, Russia has launched 28,743 Shahed/Geran drones at Ukraine – 2,736 of them in June of this year, according to President Zelensky. …

That's nearly 100 long range drones per day which target Kiev and other bigger cities. These are by the way no longer Iran made Shahed drones but a third generation development based on the original design. These drones are now bigger. They have new engines and fly faster and higher. Their load of explosives is now about 90 kilogram, double that of the original version. For each of these drones launched against Ukraine there is an additional decoy drone flying along. The decoys look similar but are not armed and much cheaper. The are to attract the air defenses while the real drones pass through.

Recent targets have been Ukrainian refineries, industrial objects and, during the last days, recruiting offices of the Ukrainian military.

These offices are in public buildings. Their addresses are naturally known as the whole mobilization process for additional soldiers is being run by them. The recruiters are hated by the population. Ukrainians are published the  addresses of mobilization offices with requests to Russia to hit them.

At the frontline the area northwest of Donetsk city is the most crucial. The Russian forces are in the process of semi-encircling Pokrovsk and Konstantynivka (see maps below).

The New York Times writes (archived) of the later one:

The city is the southern gateway to a chain of cities that form Ukraine’s last major defensive belt in Donetsk. Should it fall, nearly all cities farther north would come within range of Russian drones. It would bring Moscow closer to its long-sought goal of seizing all of Donetsk.

Russian forces have carved out a 10-mile-deep pocket around the Ukrainian troops defending Kostiantynivka, partly surrounding them from the east, south and west. Practically every movement in that pocket is targeted by Russian drones around the clock, according to a half-dozen Ukrainian soldiers and officers fighting in the area. Troops are often stranded for weeks without rotation or the possibility of evacuating the wounded.

A new class of medium range drones play a big role in this:

Ukrainian soldiers say Russia’s expanded drone strike capacity gives it an edge it did not have during previous assaults.

“Before, they could hit targets within two or three kilometers,” or less than two miles, said the commander of the unit operating crewless vehicles in the 93rd Brigade, who asked to be identified by only his first name, Oleksandr, according to military protocol. “Now, they’re striking every 10 to 20 minutes at a consistent range of 15 kilometers from the front line. Everything within that 15-kilometer zone is being destroyed.”

The progress on the map over the last six months looks slow. But this is a war of attrition and the Russian troops are only moving forward when the resistance is low.

Pokrovsk/Konstantynivka Double Encirclement, January 08 2025

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Pokrovsk/Konstantynivka Double Encirclement, July 08 2025

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President Zelenski has begged U.S. President Donald Trump for more means of air defenses. He is especially asking for Patriot missiles which can take down some of the drones and missiles the Russians are using.

But Patriot missiles are scarce:

The United States only has about 25% of the Patriot missile interceptors it needs for all of the Pentagon’s military plans after burning through stockpiles in the Middle East in recent months, an alarming depletion that led to the Trump administration freezing the latest transfer of munitions to Ukraine.

Many Patriots on stock have been given to Ukraine, many have been used in recent weeks to protect Israel from Iranian revenge missiles. Production numbers are only in the hundreds per year while thousands are needed.

Yesterday Trump agreed to again deliver some weapons to Ukraine. The numbers though that can be delivered are laughable and will make no difference:

Trump told Zelensky he wants to help Ukraine's air defenses but stressed that the U.S. had to pause the latest weapons shipment to review its own stockpiles, according to two sources briefed on the call.

Two sources said Trump promised to immediately send 10 Patriot interceptors — fewer than had been planned in the paused shipment — and help to find other means of supply.

Patriot missiles have a success probability of 0.8 to 0.9. One needs to fire (at least) two at a target to be reasonably sure to destroy it. Those 10 interceptor missiles will hardly last half a night.

So no, Trump has not decided (yet) to get fully (re-)engaged in the war on Ukraine. Handing over 10 Patriot missiles is merely covering his retreat.

Comments

“I think Russia would import North Koreans before Indians.”
LoveDonbass (198).
Yes I agree, or even Chinese – as they too have close ties with Russia.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 9 2025 15:52 utc | 201

Will Russia import one million Indians – to replace Russian men sent to Ukraine
Republicofscotland | Jul 9 2025 15:47 utc | 197
not replace soldiers but increase techical staff for building. Frar away from fronst lines

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 9 2025 15:54 utc | 202

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 9 2025 15:47 utc | 197
from the link

Besedin also said efforts were underway to bring in workers from other countries, including Sri Lanka and North Korea.
“Those people are good workers,” he remarked of North Korean workers, while acknowledging that integrating Indian and Sri Lankan laborers could prove difficult. “We’re used to migrants from nearby former Soviet republics who studied in Russia and speak the language. For now we don’t have any experience working with [Sri Lankan and Indian laborers]… it will be difficult, as our approaches and practices may differ.”
Russian businesses have already begun experimenting with Indian labor.
In March, Moscow-based developer Samolyot Group launched a pilot program to hire Indian construction workers. While executives cited advantages, including lower wage expectations and limited job mobility compared to Central Asian laborers, they also encountered early setbacks.
“The results haven’t been particularly successful,” said Alexei Akindinov, the company’s operations director, blaming the language barrier and cultural differences.

Posted by: Cable Guy | Jul 9 2025 15:56 utc | 203

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 9 2025 15:52 utc | 201
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The “source” was the Moscow Times, a Western propaganda outfit not located in Russia.
One has to question everything these days.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 9 2025 15:56 utc | 204

I suppose Iran really needs some sort of air, if not superiority then presence – to slow down the bombings from the Zionists – I guess there’s worse jets they could buy.
“China is ready to export its J-10 fighter jets to “friendly countries,” following reports that Iran may be interested”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 9 2025 15:58 utc | 205

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 9 2025 15:54 utc | 202
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Nobody is importing Indians for technical labor except Zionist states like Israel and America.
Indians are more likely to “buy” their CS degrees than achieve them.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 9 2025 15:59 utc | 206

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 9 2025 15:56 utc | 204

The “source” was the Moscow Times, a Western propaganda outfit not located in Russia.

Learned something!!

Posted by: Cable Guy | Jul 9 2025 16:00 utc | 207

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 9 2025 15:59 utc | 206
That’s both factually incorrect and rooted in lazy stereotypes. India produces world-class engineers and CS graduates, many of whom outperform peers globally. As for Israel, Indian workers are being brought in to replace Palestinian labor in construction and caregiving, not tech. Replacing Palestinians with Indian tech workers is pure fiction.

Posted by: Cable Guy | Jul 9 2025 16:05 utc | 208

LoveDonbass (204).
Yes it owned by a Dutch publishing company, and partially funded by the Dutch government – I thought the Moscow Times stopped printing in 2017, maybe its online only now – it typically puts forward the Western narrative on events.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 9 2025 16:06 utc | 209

Cable Guy (203).
Thank you for that as I didn’t quite read it all.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 9 2025 16:08 utc | 210

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 9 2025 15:50 utc | 200
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When I posted last year about Trump saying he would attack Russia a resident MAGA flipped out.
Trump has shown us who he really is always. People chose to disbelieve the evidence.
Those people are fairly quiet now, except when they rant or blubber about TDS. That is coming to an end, to be a Trump supporter now, you have to support war, Epstein, and Zionism.
MAGA is as dead as the Tea Party.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 9 2025 16:08 utc | 211

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 9 2025 15:58 utc | 205
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The J-10C armed with PL-15 missiles is as capable a fighter as any on the planet, and they are very affordable.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 9 2025 16:11 utc | 213

“Indians are more likely to “buy” their CS degrees than achieve them…”
Posted by: LoveDumbass | Jul 9 2025 15:59 utc | 206
Goddamn, you are a racist prick.
Kindly please show document your racist tirade with facts.

Posted by: canuk | Jul 9 2025 16:11 utc | 214

Posted by: Cable Guy | Jul 9 2025 16:05 utc | 208
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I’ve lived and worked with Indian CS students in the West. I know Desi culture quite well.
Indians aren’t leaders at anything technical.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 9 2025 16:14 utc | 215

“That’s both factually incorrect and rooted in lazy stereotypes. India produces world-class engineers and CS graduates, many of whom outperform peers globally.”
Posted by: Cable Guy | Jul 9 2025 16:05 utc | 208
LoveDumbass’s bullshit is embarrassing.
I have worked with many Indian engineers and they are as good as any tech workers-Dumbass doesn’t have any time to actually work with people as most of his waking moment is posting , screaming for attention from anybody.
What a useless schlepper!

Posted by: canuk | Jul 9 2025 16:15 utc | 216

Goddamn, you are a racist prick.
Posted by: canuk | Jul 9 2025 16:11 utc | 214
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That’s rich coming from a Zionist.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 9 2025 16:18 utc | 217

William Gruff 188,
Innovation is the result of both human nature and nurture.
Consider, pre-human hominids made sophisticated stone tools, mastered fire and what appears to be spears/axes/traps, though this last one is hard to prove conclusively. Tool-making/innovation was coded into our pre-human DNA.
However, periods of innovation have waxed and waned over human history, not something one would expect solely from DNA alone? Perhaps societal reward and punishment play a role?
Currently, tool-makers/innovators are punished in the US and “Western-Europe”. Can’t afford engineering school? Well then, you’re cut off from the design/innovation process…at least making a living at it..go flip burgers and take drugs to sedate that innovation itch of yours. Or better yet, learn to code repetitive tasks, that which has been done before and is fully understood, yep that’ll kill that innovation itch, no need for an opioid, when you’re already dead inside.
It wasn’t always so but, it is now. Millions of years of evolution thrown upon Milton Friedman’s ash-heap-of-false-history.
China on the other hand, recently emerged from such an ash-heap, slowly at first then…all at once. Correctly applied reward & punishment seems to bring out the ancient desire all good humans possess. Let me be clear, I am not against employing China’s mercantile practices, including slowly raising tariffs and barriers. But US society, as a whole, needs to do a lot more, Wall-Street/finance and their henchman in Langley needs to be reigned in. And so far, that ain’t looking promising as we edge ever closer to the edge of that ash-heap…albeit to the cheers of many here…

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 9 2025 16:20 utc | 218

As in all large countries: there are highly qualified potential guest workers and less qualified ones. As far as I understand it, Russia is looking for highly qualified people to expand its drone and missile production. The problem with Indians, however, is that most of them speak English, but rarely Russian.

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 9 2025 16:22 utc | 219

This* is for the benefit of our resident Dumbass. Hopefully after staring at it DA, you will fully armed with some historical perspective. My hope is that you’ll stop spewing your hatred towards Indians. I kinda doubt it, spewing hated is kinda your thing but, it wouldn’t be Christian of me not to try.
2,000 Years of Economic History in One Chart
*https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/share-of-gdp-history1070.jpg

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 9 2025 16:40 utc | 220

Cable Guy @208: “India produces world-class engineers and CS graduates, many of whom outperform peers globally.”
Absolutely! I recall back in 1995 that a major finance corporation in Boston was advertising positions for Java software engineers with a minimum of five years experience with the language. I met up with a biggie from their personnel department and asked how the headhunting was going; were they getting any applicants? She was disappointed that there were no domestic applicants, but thrilled that they had many to choose from hailing from India.
Yep, Indian developers are so amazing they can acquire five years of commercial experience between May when the language was released and August when the positions were advertised. Truly phenomenal.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 9 2025 16:43 utc | 221

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 9 2025 13:39 utc | 169
The [European] population will remain passive until the media change their vote.

The passivity of the euro populace is not because of the media. Propaganda is widespread and yet it penetrates very little, it’s impact is very superficial, a patina.
The cause of the passivity of the euro populace is the welfare state.
As long us the euro populace enjoys early retirement, paternal/maternal and medical (lots of fraud here) leave, educational subsidies, free medicine, free transportation for the elderly, travel clubs for the elderly, paid vacations, housing subsidies, shortening work hours, all those things that make euros so proud of themselves, they will pretend to believe the propaganda and the official lines, they will keep voting for center this or center that, the liberal clone picked for them to vote for, never risking going outside that framework, in fear of losing their “garden of the world little privileges”.
That’s why the current push to militarize, i.e. to transfer wealth to America by spending a large percentage of GDP to buy stuff from the American MIC, is such a dangerous and stupid policy for euro politicians. It can only be done by increasing debt and at least partially dismantle the welfare state.
It will open the door to the ‘far right’ in a few electioneering cycles, because the left, well the left is the same as the liberals, so people receiving less welfare will kick the liberals out and turn to the ‘far right’. America will say thanks for your service vassals!

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 9 2025 16:50 utc | 222

219
Translation problem: Machine translates native american ppl and ppl from india with same words.

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 9 2025 16:50 utc | 223

I worked for one semester at a science and engineering college in Bangalore teaching technical English (I like to live off the land when I travel). I was confused by the fact that the English Department was the only academic department in the college, but I guess that is not unusual in Bangalore.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 9 2025 16:53 utc | 224

» Patriot missiles have a success probability of 0.8 to 0.9 «
Based on what?
Is there a data set?
Against what targets?
In what circumstances?
Or is this just a claim put out by some partisan political or sales organization?
I have read that the Patriots have performed much worse than this, in Saudi and other deployments.
(
Sorry, didn’t file all the reports I’ve seen; but nowhere near this good.
I’ve seen videos of them firing literally a full complement of their missiles or missiles looping back — all with zero hits — bound to bring that average down mighty fast.
)
None of the UA stats about what they intercept are worth a single breath.

Posted by: Webej | Jul 9 2025 16:58 utc | 225

“… The passivity of the euro populace is not because of the media.—”
Johan Kaspar | Jul 9 2025 16:50 utc | 222
It is. 98% are based government related, or close, because ownership is old Nazi. So there is a clear dependence: Propaganda <=> Politicians > believing citizens. If no opposition and alternative propaganda, you can do all. The propaganda system of Goebbels and Hitler. – currently systematically expanding

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 9 2025 17:00 utc | 226

Finally, Israel accepting its international obligations, it took a while but, they finally got there under Netanyahu-[aka]-Mileikowsky.
Israel is stepping up to the plate to finally end, once and for all, Nazi-Germany’s unique position in history. It’s hard to belive but, high time indeed!
Israel Defense Minister Unveils Plan For Concentration Camps In Gaza
To spare anyone’s tepid moral qualms on the matter the IDF will call it a “humanitarian city”. It’s past time us goys salute the new master race, Israelis and their close cousins, the Israeli-Americans
PS I can’t link the source due to Tyler Durden’s stuff not being allowed here.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 9 2025 17:01 utc | 227

Posted by: Webej | Jul 9 2025 16:58 utc | 225
Most likely, those stats are from tests conducted under controlled conditions.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 9 2025 17:01 utc | 228

Posted by: Bernard Davis | Jul 9 2025 8:55 utc | 134
Oh I do, hence the reference to a weapon whose efficacy was massively hyped, simply because it exploited unique situational operating conditions. The Sagger, or Malyutka was a crude, portable first Gen MCLOS ATGM, whose performance was mediocre at best, given its large minimum range, slow speed and difficulty engaging crossing targets. Once the IDF stopped frontally charging through its engagement envelope, used Sagger overwatch tactics, with fire and movement hit rates declined hugely, throughout the rest of the conflict. It was also found out that the warhead was hugely affected by hitting any stand off structures on the target, from light housings to towing hooks and external stowage.
Same with the Iranian ballistic missile used against Israel, in time analysis will show their supposed effectiveness was less than that claimed( funny how some posters only apply this rule to certain countries and not others). In 73’ the Egyptians at least had something substantive to back up their claims, including contemporary Israeli after-action reports and radio logs, here they have very little to prove the efficacy of their missiles apart from misleading footage and a SM campaign. As for SCUDs they might as well have used them, given that it was the threat of conflict that caused the major disruptions to Israel e.g. Maersk’s decision to temporarily suspend operations, not the missiles itself.
Posted by: canuk | Jul 9 2025 10:59 utc | 147
Peak of war production, a typical Speer self-aggrandisement, peak crap maybe or peak just what we don’t need perhaps. The latest academic research uses the ULTRA interceptions that were not available to the survey team, where the Germans clearly record the devestating impact on the entire supply chain, caused by strategic bombing, and its impact on German industry. Again, read Tooze or the article linked which is a useful summation of the counter-argument.
If we are talking about Vietnam, ask the North how effective the bombing campaign was in ‘73, as it dislocated their plans for invading the South, forcing a two year delay. That and completely underestimating the resilience of key ARVN units, because their intel was tainted by ideological certitude.
Posted by: JessDTruth | Jul 9 2025 14:11 utc | 174
There’s an obvious third alternative but it means a Samsonian assault on the central pillars of the narrative being spun by Iran and her supporters.
Posted by: Hamburger | Jul 9 2025 14:19 utc | 175
The point is the defender is not meant to know it’s a decoy, they just see a potential wave of targets.

Posted by: Milites | Jul 9 2025 17:03 utc | 229

@canuk #163
I don’t know, but I am fairly sure the answer is an unholy mix of MIC, arrogance and LeMay politicking. Keep in mind that there was no internet back then – a proper bureaucratic/intel agency steering of battlefield damage assessments and situational reports could easily show whatever the puppetmasters wanted them to show.
Nor is this a purely speculative confluence: we saw this happen in Vietnam with official Army reports vs. reality ie Westmoreland riding roughshod over counter reports from the CIA and other places.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 9 2025 17:04 utc | 230

@Republicofscotland #200
That recording is carefully edited – it is quite clear Trump was talking about if the Ukraine SMO or Taiwan invasion was threatened under his watch in 2020, not how he actually talks to Xi or Putin.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 9 2025 17:06 utc | 231

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 9 2025 17:00 utc | 226
The propaganda system of Goebbels and Hitler. – currently systematically expanding

That thing doesn’t work anymore, people of advanced liberal states such as in Europe are totally and completely cynical. Don’t believe in the media, don’t trust politicians, trusting institutions less and less.
Passivitys come from the welfare state. Makes people very, very risk-averse, so always voting for continuity.
America doesn’t have welfare state so Trump happened. People could risk going off center.
I’m not saying down with the welfare state, I’m not complaining about so many employees taking false medical leaves and shit, not at all, I’m just saying what happens under the welfare state: people become cynical and docile.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 9 2025 17:09 utc | 232

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 9 2025 15:37 utc | 194
Not just claims, the Chinese have been doing it to the Russians since the 60’s, when they had to open the freight cars to conduct ‘customs inspections’ of Russian tech, heading for Vietnam. Surprisingly that tech was no longer needed because shortly afterwards China made a huge leap forward and could supply it to Vietnam themselves.
Guess the PRC spend billions, and devote huge resources, on espionage, including ‘recruiting’ thousands of ‘students’ studying overseas simply to keep an eye out on how far they are ahead!

Posted by: Milites | Jul 9 2025 17:13 utc | 233

“That thing doesn’t work anymore, people of advanced liberal states such as in Europe are totally and completely cynical….”
Johan Kaspar | Jul 9 2025 17:09 utc | 232
Your dream / The system is just more refined; it’s still the same. Opposition, different opinions, are defamed, even criminalized or banned. The state and the opinion-forming media are believed. The days when there were critical citizens are a generation gone; the ’68 generation is dying out.
Social media is no substitute; it only contains propaganda and incites violence. (See the list of sanctions and bans against Russian media or media and journalists.)
(I did work 20 years in advertising, marketing, mass direction. Until 2014)

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 9 2025 17:22 utc | 234

Posted by: Milites | Jul 9 2025 17:13 utc | 233
I’ve heard that accusation against the Chinese quite often.
My reaction is, so what?
We all learn from each other.
If you want to be ahead of competitors, you need to be innovating constantly, instead of trying to keep old achievements for yourself.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 9 2025 17:23 utc | 235

C1ue 230, you put out a lot of good comments here but this*:
*”Westmoreland riding roughshod over counter reports from the CIA”
is piece CIA propaganda/agitprop. The CIA started the effing war and when JFK started looking for an exit [and ending the CIA’s take-over of the USG], they killed Kennedy and installed LBJ who promptly ramped up the war.
If you read the Pentagon Papers you’d know prior to the Dulles-bros reign at State/CIA OSS officers interviewed Ho Chi Minh post WWII victory in the Pacific and found him a reasonable nationalist who very much wanted to work/emulate the US. Tragically their advice to work with Ho was ignored by those farther up the chain, those that would lead the newly formed CIA, the US-State-Dept [see Henry Cabot Lodge leading the purge at the DoS] and Truman’s newly installed neo-conservitive staff.
That’s not to say, as I have many times before, that Gen Westmoreland wasn’t a first-class-a-hole with a golden-cluster-attachment. That he was but, this* line is SOP-CIA-CYA.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 9 2025 17:33 utc | 236

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 9 2025 17:22 utc | 234
(I did work 20 years in advertising, marketing, mass direction. Until 2014)

That explains your overestimation of bullshit, err propaganda.
The passivity of the euro populace is simply risk-aversion.
It makes sense for them working class people to defend their prerrogatives.
So they vote for the liberal clone extruded for them.
In the hope to keep their prerrogatives.
Totally rational.
Then these elected clones start spouting inanities, people don’t give a shit, they can embark in all silly projects, people don’t give a shit, UNLESS the close start cutting entitlements and prerrogatives and subsidies and shit.
Then they are kicked out.
People act rationally most of the time though those working in advertising live in a bubble, getting high on their own supply.
I will tell you a secret, but don’t tell anyone.
Ads don’t work. People hate them, even the imaginative ones.
Paying for an ads campaigs is one of those stupid things that people with too much money do.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 9 2025 17:36 utc | 237

Johan Kaspar | Jul 9 2025 17:36 utc | 237
we have different experience, but ths is not right time ad place to discuss it more in deep.
(A general marketing rule: constantly repeated information, even if it’s false, is internalized as true unless it’s countered by equally strong and frequent insight. This is how religions and fanaticism work, too.)

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 9 2025 17:58 utc | 238

Posted by: HB_Norica | Jul 8 2025 19:25 utc | 35
Given the US’s almost continuous war footing throughout its existence, we may expect superior strategy and tactics, and victories. Histories shows otherwise. As for AI or other computer-based solutions, look at the software problems with the F-35, for example, and their relative lack of progress in the sphere of hypersonics; even their space programme has somewhat ossified. Chinese technology and Russian engineering and design outshine US defence. Superior Russian production and Chinese innovation are exponential in the international arms race. The US is floundering at best.

Posted by: horseguards | Jul 9 2025 18:15 utc | 239

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 9 2025 16:14 utc | 215
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There is a large portion of them who steal academic knowledge during their PhD studies.
I have witnessed it with my own eyes.

Posted by: pepe | Jul 9 2025 18:16 utc | 240

Posted by: Scottindallas | Jul 8 2025 19:39 utc | 36
The irony is that the US (and every other Western country) has yet to reconcile capitalism and defence policy/spending. Robert MacNamara tried to apply business metrics to the war in Vietnam, and we know how that went. See his wikipedia entry to see from whence he came.

Posted by: horseguards | Jul 9 2025 18:22 utc | 241

Carriers are a sunk cost. They belong to an older time.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 9 2025 1:03 utc | 91
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That might end up being literally true although it might take a few years.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jul 9 2025 18:28 utc | 242

The Port of Rotterdam will not be reserving empty dock space until the bell rings.
Who are we kidding? That dock space makes money, every day. It will be there for Uncle Sam and NATO immediately after the money shows up, should there ever be an occasion, which I doubt.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jul 9 2025 18:32 utc | 243

Posted by: pepe | Jul 9 2025 18:16 utc | 240
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I know. I don’t dislike the Indian people. The culture is a big reason why it is so 3rd world compared to China and other ASEAN nations.
Dishonesty, corruption (like buying a degree), and racism are normalized.
Like America, there is little solidarity. A Hindu hates a Punjabi Sikh, and both hate Kashmiri Muslims.
It is opportunistic and has practically no friends.
It could be great, but they need a social revolution, as the Chinese had after WW2 and Russia had after the USSR.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 9 2025 18:46 utc | 244

Legal experts from the Bundestag’s Research Services argued that “the vast majority of international lawyers” do not consider Israel’s actions to be a valid exercise of self-defense under the UN Charter.
To legally justify the strikes, Israel would need to demonstrate that Iran had both the intent to deploy a nuclear weapon and immediate capability to produce one, the experts stated. The report also noted that the US could not claim the right of collective defense if Israel’s initial strike was itself unlawful.
Posted by: smartfox | Jul 9 2025 14:32 utc | 178
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Fascinating.
Not picked up by any MSM anywhere?

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jul 9 2025 18:54 utc | 245

@ 168
“Industrial capacity in the U.S. is increasing,”
Not true
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/capacity-utilization

Posted by: golddigger | Jul 9 2025 19:08 utc | 246

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 9 2025 17:58 utc | 238
Agreed. Fascinating topic but no here not now.
(yes, but the penetration is superficial, that’s why it has to be repeated.)

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 9 2025 19:12 utc | 248

It amazes me that Trump, master of bullshit, would accuse the soft-spoken, careful wordsmith, and upholder of universal morals and ethics, Putin, of speaking bullshit.
Is he seriously unable to recognize an honest speaker when he hears one? Does he really not understand Putin when Putin patiently explains, for the 10th time, Russia’s position?
Or is he just doing his bullshit thing?
Same with Ursula fond of Leyen. China, along with Russia, has spent years complaining about the US unilaterally inventing the “rules-based order” to replace international law. China and Russia have pointed out that, unlike international law, the “rules-based order” is not written law, has not been negotiated or agreed upon by other nations, and is invented and upheld by the USA, which was not given that authority under any international agreement.
But this is what she said the other day- “If China claims to defend the rules-based international order, then it must unequivocally condemn Russia’s gross violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty…”
Does she really believe that China claims to defend the rules-based order? How could she believe such a 180 degree perversion of reality?
And, of course, condemning Russia’s “gross violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty”, which refers to Russia’s entrance into the Ukrainian civil war caused by the US-backed coup of 2014, without condemning the US for grossly interfering with Ukrainian sovereignty by overthrowing their elected government and remodeling the Kiev regime in order to further US, not UKR, goals, is mind-boggling hypocritical as well.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Jul 9 2025 19:38 utc | 249

@S Brennan #236
It is more than possible that there was collusion between Westmoreland and the top of the CIA over the duration of Vietnam, but there are well documented reports from the CIA disputing Westmoreland’s public pronouncements that were over-ridden.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 9 2025 19:43 utc | 250

Is he seriously unable to recognize an honest speaker when he hears one? Does he really not understand Putin when Putin patiently explains, for the 10th time, Russia’s position?
Posted by: wagelaborer | Jul 9 2025 19:38 utc | 249

Remember Trump’s mind is a Mafia kind of mind. He assesses other people only in relation to what he can get out of them.
As for the detestable von der Leyen woman, she really believes she is Europe’s Trump. Controls everything, even China. LMFAO

Posted by: Avtonom | Jul 9 2025 19:56 utc | 251

@canuk #163
As for why – read this report for an example: EPA report on the US explosive industry in 1974
The original full report used to be more easily available, but this is access to the same document, page by page.
On page 13 – it lists the inputs into the US explosives industry in 1974:

Coal (547,000 s ton) 497 Gg
Oil Distillate and residual fuel oil (267,500 bbl) 42,500 m3
Natural gas (7 x 106 ft3) 198 km3
Purchased electric energy 630.3 GWh
Total energy used for heat and power 8.4 x Twh equiv

km3 = bcm (billion cubic meters). So the explosives industry’s use of natural gas alone in 1974 was roughly 20% of the natural gas comsumption of the entire United States TODAY.
Further in the report, what was produced (page )

Composition A-3 1.093 Gg
Composition A-5 0.762 Gg
Composition B 68.991 Gg
Composition B-4 1.197 Gg
Composition C-4 1.115 Gg
Cyclotol 1.388 Gg
Octol 1.442 Gg
Total: 75.988 Gg

75.988 Gg = about 76 million kg = 76,000 metric tons of explosives = 83,600 short tons.
Now consider the total amount of bombs dropped in Vietnam: 7.5 million tons according to wiki. Between the planes, the fuel for the planes, the bombs including metal casing, fuses, explosives, the assembly of the bombs, transport, etc etc – we are talking huge numbers here. This is the old school MIC in a nutshell.
Stopping WW2 meant a lot of factories making said explosives, bombs, shell casings, etc etc no longer having demand.
Any more questions?

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 9 2025 20:03 utc | 252

Canuck, Tobias Cole and anyone else, are you familar with Randall Jarrell, the following is an excerpt from one his poems.
“ In our new planes, with our new crews, we bombed
The ranges by the desert or the shore,
Fired at towed targets, waited for our scores–
And turned into replacements and worke up
One morning, over England, operational.
It wasn’t different: but if we died
It was not an accident but a mistake
(But an easy one for anyone to make.)
We read our mail and counted up our missions–
In bombers named for girls, we burned
The cities we had learned about in school–
Till our lives wore out; our bodies lay among
The people we had killed and never seen.
When we lasted long enough they gave us medals;
When we died they said, “Our casualties were low.”
The said, “Here are the maps”; we burned the cities.”
Losses – Randall Jarrell

Posted by: will moon | Jul 9 2025 20:31 utc | 253

Canuck, Tobias Cole and anyone else, are you familar with Randall Jarrell, the following is an excerpt from one his poems.
“ In our new planes, with our new crews, we bombed
The ranges by the desert or the shore,
Fired at towed targets, waited for our scores–
And turned into replacements and worke up
One morning, over England, operational.
It wasn’t different: but if we died
It was not an accident but a mistake
(But an easy one for anyone to make.)
We read our mail and counted up our missions–
In bombers named for girls, we burned
The cities we had learned about in school–
Till our lives wore out; our bodies lay among
The people we had killed and never seen.
When we lasted long enough they gave us medals;
When we died they said, “Our casualties were low.”
The said, “Here are the maps”; we burned the cities.”
Losses – Randall Jarrell

Posted by: will moon | Jul 9 2025 20:31 utc | 254

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 9 2025 1:03 utc | 91
So why are the Chinese spending billions on constructing them, guess the same reason they’re spending billions on stealth technologies for their 5/6th Gen AC, because we all know it doesn’t work. Strange people the Chinese, they usually invest in things that work for other people, maybe it’s a clever ploy to convince the silly Westerners to waste money.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 9 2025 16:11 utc | 213
You mean the rip-off of the Israeli Lavi project? And no, quite a few fighters would not only buy it it’s lunch, but then proceed to eat it. If you knew what you talked about you’d know that the earlier generation platforms it represents are only flying missile carriers, it’s those, and their integration into the supporting electronic infrastructure, that really counts. As the Indians found out to their cost recently, and why Iranian J-10’s would just constitute a bigger bar tab at an Israeli airbase.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 9 2025 17:23 utc | 235
Not innovation, stealing, via an extensive espionage network. Chinese technological developments are BC or AC (before Clinton, or after Clinton). Export waivers and a succession of aggressive relaxations of national security policy by that compromised administration gave China’s nascent high-tech industry a huge boost, which it tries to maintain via organic programmes and those ‘fortified’ by stolen technologies. The systems are impressive on paper, but rarely live up to these capabilities, as the recent India Pakistan clash showed, or suffer severe shortcomings such as the naval radars based on French tech, but without the accompanying cooling system technology, resulting in severe operator fatigue, the reverse of the Tu Moss effect.
Posted by: c1ue | Jul 9 2025 20:03 utc | 252
Is that the same old school MIC (every industrialised country has one, by the way) that declared free-fall dumb bombs as obsolete, sold its stock off for fertiliser, for peanuts, then had to buy them back at close to the market rate, when SE Asia blew up?

Posted by: Milites | Jul 9 2025 22:17 utc | 255

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 8 2025 23:56 utc | 74
Do you live in the US? The US being capable at this point of ramping up industrial production is unlikely. It’s a nation run by Harvard MBAs who don’t know fuck all about the real world. 3 years into sending millions of artillery shells to Ukraine production is stuck at 40k units/mobth. It hit 50k once. It was supposed to be 100k/month already. The biggest reason is that the new facilities to make more artillery shells still aren’t done.
Now Andrusil and the tech barons might come up with some cool shit, but as we’ve seen with Musk and Tesla the tech bros are bad at mass production. And in the end, quantity has a quality all its own.
The US has been shifting away from making things for two generations plus now. Changing that will take almost as many generations and require a commitment from government to education and infrastructure that won’t happen.

Posted by: Lex | Jul 9 2025 22:47 utc | 256

@Milites #255
Be more clear what you are attempting to say.
The report above covers the US explosives industry in 1974 – well after the height of the Vietnam war and its millions of tons of bombs dropped.
As such, it is very safe to say that said industry was at least as active/productive in prior years encompassing the period from the end of World War 2 (the peak of production) through the Korean conflict and on towards Vietnam.
Today – there is no “blowup” in SE Asia; Vietnam is a major exporter to the US. There is no US conflict with Laos, Cambodia, Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia or the Phillipines.
Taiwan is not SE Asia.
Western capability for explosives production is literally nonexistent: there is exactly 1 – TNT factory in the entire West, and it is in Poland. Composition B above is 60% RDX and 40% TNT, for example.
The backup factory was in the part of Ukraine that is now Russia.
The vaunted IMX-101 replacement for TNT – the Holston factory where BAE was supposed to deliver on its multi-hundred million/billion dollar contracts with the US military – is known more for explosions and leaks and what not than actually producing product.
The only US gunpowder factory apparently burned down last year and is still not replaced, AFAIK. You still need gunpowder for various intermediary aspects of shell and bomb operation.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 9 2025 22:57 utc | 257

Natural gas (7 x 106 ft3) 198 km3
…
km3 = bcm (billion cubic meters). So the explosives industry’s use of natural gas alone in 1974 was roughly 20% of the natural gas comsumption of the entire United States TODAY.
…
Any more questions?
Posted by: c1ue | Jul 9 2025 20:03 utc | 252
****
Yes – one question: How did you convert cubic feet to cubic Km?
By my reckoning, 1 cubic km is about 35 billion cubic feet. A cubic foot is quite small, while a cubic kilometre is very large. Go outside and try to visualise it!
Incorrect conversion factors can lad to wildly inaccurate conclusions and explanations, such as the claim that the US explosives industry consuming 20% of today’s US total gas consumption – which incidentally is significantly greater than the US gas consumption in 1974.

Posted by: General Factotum | Jul 9 2025 23:43 utc | 258

Iranian missiles achieved very little, they failed to operationally shape the conflict and often ended up destroying residential targets.
Posted by: Milites | Jul 9 2025 0:30 utc | 80

Fucking liar reproducing the israel propaganda!
Mossad was hit, Weizmann was it, several airbases were hit, Haifa port was hit… Israel asked the yankees for help. And they cried for a cease-fire. On the other side: war crimes: assassinations of Iranians, civilians included.
Fucking moron!

Posted by: Naive | Jul 10 2025 0:10 utc | 259

@golddigger | Jul 9 2025 19:08 utc
Golddigger: capacity utilization is not the same – at all – as capacity creation. Investment in industrial structures is 2.5x what it was in 2020.
As more capacity gets built – and fast – it’s not going to achieve full capacity utilization as fast as it’s being created. There’s lag-time. That makes sense, right?
So let’s revisit, in a year or 2, what the capacity is, and how it changed, and then we’ll apply your capacity utilization modifier – which is much appreciated, btw, as it helps tell the full story.
And thanks for the reply.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jul 10 2025 0:55 utc | 260

Xi should politely tell her to F*ck-Off.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 9 2025 13:29 utc | 165

Xi never says such things, under any circumstances … that’s a job for The Wang.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3316707/wang-yi-tells-top-eu-officials-brussels-unite-against-unilateralism-and-bullying
They can all agree they hate bullies … now we just need to figure out who is the biggest bully.

Posted by: Tel | Jul 10 2025 7:59 utc | 261