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July 14, 2025
Putin: The West’s Conflict With Russia Is Not About Ideology

In an interview with the Russian TV channel Rossiya President Vladimir Putin gave some insight into Russia's changing perspective of the West.

There is unfortunately no transcript available yet. Various Russian media provid snippets of the talk in English language:

I have yet to find the full interview. But these tweets of Djole include some quotes and subtitled video excerpts:

In an interview with Pavlo Zarubin, a well-known journalist on Russian state television, Putin spoke about deep misunderstandings that, he says, he initially mistakenly attributed to ideological differences. But over time, he points out, it became clear that the background is not ideology, but something else – interest.

"I thought that the contradictions with the West were primarily ideological. It seemed logical at the time – Cold War inertia, different views of the world, values, the organization of society," Putin said.

"But even when the ideology disappeared, when the Soviet Union ceased to exist, the same, almost routine deviation from Russia's interests continued. And it was not because of ideas, but because of the pursuit of advantages – geopolitical, economic, strategic."

"The world respects only those who can protect themselves," he said. "Until we show that we are an independent and sovereign power that stands behind our interests, there will be no room for anyone to treat us as equals."

My very first thought when reading that was 'what took him so long'. During the Cold War I was indoctrinated with the fairy tale of Western freedoms versus the evils of eastern communism. But I for one have never accepted that view. Western animosity against Russia goes back many centuries. (Maybe even further back than the big schism of 1054). The fight against the 'evils of communism' was just a contemporary variance of it.

One might call that ideological but I believe that it always has been and is about greed. There is one side in this conflict which never seems to have enough and therefore aims for Russia's riches. What else explains Napoleon's march to Moscow or the British war in Crimea? (See Karlov1 who writes a bit more about the 'ideological' aspect of this.)

But why did it take Putin and Russia until 2022 to accept the consequences of this insight?

Comments

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 14 2025 17:21 utc | 102
There are a great number of mind readers here today.
They’re capable of “reading minds”, but somehow challenged when it comes to reading the actual texts you (and b) make accessible.
§| thanks again Karl (and b) for your labors.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 15 2025 3:20 utc | 301

Excellent!!
Of course it’s about interests. And riches aka resources. The West billionaires dream of balkanizing and breaking up Russia into pieces and stealing her resources. It’s also about REGIME CHANGE.
China, Russia and Iran MUST, ABSOLUTELY MUST GET RID OF ANY ILLUSIONS OF BEING BUDDIES WITH THE WEST. NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN.
I saw a video of Hegseth and Ratcliffe on X, at the presser where Trump announced more weapons to Ukraine, as well as 100% tariffs on any country trading with Russia, if the war is not ended in 50 days. Ratcliffe had the biggest SMIRK on his face. Duping delight, a psychopathic grin.
These clowns really think they won’t suffer any consequences from their warmongering
Several MAGA’s under that Twitter thread were royally pissed off. They are getting it that Trump is breaking every single promise he made.
It is not a shock to me, however, the US WILL NOT give up at Ukraine. Lithuania and other Baltic states are promising to beef up their warmongering too
Would anyone be surprised if the gloves are off with Russia and that they won’t hesitate to use nukes if they must???

Posted by: Kay | Jul 15 2025 3:24 utc | 302

Thread theme__
Q:”what did Putin know, and when did he know it?
A: 2007
His address at the Munich Security Conference.
He arrived at the conference cast as a benign Yeltsin sidekick, small in stature and presumed to be a pushover.
He left, recast as the West’s new Bad Guy. They coined the term “strongman” for him, thinking this was some sort of mean girl prerogative.
Until they rethought a “strongman” is actually what Russia needed. …
Two decades on (almost), he’s still the Bad Guy, and they are still unable to effectively diffuse his power and influence.
And the more they try, the more his power and influence grows; it’s almost like he uses some sort of metaphysical boomerang… where all their own violence and hubris returns to inflict damage on themselves.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 15 2025 3:35 utc | 303

Melaleuca | Jul 15 2025 3:20 utc | 300
I add my Hear HEAR! to your statement to Karlof1.

Posted by: bisfab | Jul 15 2025 3:35 utc | 304

This Western Cult of Mammon is so inefficient. Only the 1% of the population are exercising their brains to sustain it, all the rest are frozen in resentment at the stupidity of chasing power when power is so boring.
When Nutter wakes up in the morning he checks his power. When I wake up in the morning I check Allah’s power. Wow! Another day. Amazing. Allah’s power is Creative, Nutter’s power is measured in destruction.
Putin cannot say that, because Communism destroyed the continuity of Faith in his country. So he says something wrapped in Western values about resources instead.

Posted by: Giyane | Jul 15 2025 3:40 utc | 305

@ Melaleuca | Jul 15 2025 3:35 utc | 302
very good! i think you have that right..

Posted by: james | Jul 15 2025 3:47 utc | 306

Levan Gudadze (@GudadzeLevan)
🇦🇲🇺🇸🇦🇿 The United States is reportedly preparing to lease the Zangezur Corridor—a critical strip of Armenian land linking mainland Azerbaijan with its Nakhichevan exclave—for a staggering 100 years.
According to Middle East Eye, this was disclosed by U.S. Ambassador to Turkey Tom Barrack, who noted that a powerful American private company {{?Blackrock??}} may take over control of the corridor.
The proposal reportedly originated from Ankara.
The corridor is of immense geopolitical value: it directly connects Azerbaijan with Nakhichevan and, by extension, with NATO ally Turkey.
For Washington, securing long-term control over this transit route would serve Western military and economic ambitions in the South Caucasus—at the direct expense of Armenia’s sovereignty and regional balance, handing a strategic corridor to a foreign power under the guise of “private enterprise.”
However, the plan is currently stalled.
Talks between Armenia and Azerbaijan have broken down.
Baku is demanding that Armenia revise its constitution to remove any mention of Azerbaijani territory, while Yerevan insists the American-controlled corridor must also extend through Nakhichevan—something Baku categorically rejects.
https://nitter.net/GudadzeLevan/status/1944768676818780641
>that reptile Erdogan, slithering around in the weeds again….

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 15 2025 3:52 utc | 307

DD Geopolitics (@DD_Geopolitics)
🇺🇦🇺🇸The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry was outraged by the NYT journalist’s report on the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ incursion into the Kursk region.
Nanna Heitmann spent six days near Sudzha accompanied by fighters from the Akhmat special forces.
She wrote that the fields “were strewn with the bodies of civilians,” and the streets were littered with mines and unexploded shells.
She also recounted seeing the body of a man with signs of violence — a wound on his neck and a gunshot wound to the chest — in one of the houses in Martynovka.
Some residents of Sudzha told her they had buried dozens of neighbors. Heitmann noted that one local woman named NATO expansion as one of the causes of the conflict and that “her views on what was happening found wide resonance” among refugees from the border area.
Ukrainian Foreign Ministry representative Georgiy Tikhiy called the publication of the report a foolish decision.

^This^ is why I reject the Putin LITHOP theory of Kursk. Ukraine was savage ~ inflicted gaza-level violence and obscenity on civilians_ I do not accept Putin would have willingly allowed that.
Kursk was a intel Mi6/FOG spec ops attack, and in my opinion, conducted with corruption at the local border-guard level.
Once special ops guys breached the border, that allowed the Ukrainian forces to penetrate…. Almost to the NPP.
Russia struggled to rid the incursion, but once the momentum was stalled , Ukraine/British obstinacy in continuing the campaign, will, in historical review, be the pivot point where Ukraine ultimately lost the war …
Had Ukraine withdrawn, as Russia did from Kherson, Ukraine would not have squandered so many men and western weaponry.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 15 2025 4:06 utc | 308

I enjoy Russian humor:
Internet: “Why do you support Putin? You know he is evil don’t you?
Are you evil? I think you are. You cheer on the murder of Ukrainians. You are disgusting.
>… Russians With Attitude telegram: (reply)
“I didn’t vote for Putin. Not evil enough for my taste!”

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 15 2025 4:15 utc | 309

First, it was because the West’s narrative power was too strong. Second, because the Soviet Union’s internal governance was extremely poor, especially regarding people’s livelihoods, which led Soviets to deeply resent their own government and political system. Despite his intelligence, Putin could not entirely escape the influence of these factors.
There is also a deeper reason: Russians have always yearned to prove that they, too, are Europeans—that they belong to the core of the Christian world. This mentality has profoundly influenced every Russian throughout history

Posted by: Mooncake | Jul 15 2025 4:19 utc | 310

Concerning greed: Is it greedy to switch your investments from a stock that is losing value to one that is gaining? Most people would say it is stupid not to do so. Nothing more than that innocent action is required to drive all of the evil we see capitalism commit. That is why I avoid calling out greed as the cause for geopolitical crises.
Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 14 2025 21:59 utc | 215
Excellent point.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 15 2025 0:46 utc | 265

Imperialism is stealing stocks that are not yours. That’s greedy.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jul 15 2025 4:20 utc | 311

Posted by: Kay | Jul 15 2025 3:24 utc | 301
Russia will use Oreshniks but unlikely to use nukes unless someone else does first. There are very good reasons why nukes have not been used for 80 years, and I think even the insane heads of leaders these days are kept in check by those more sane that know what MAD or even tactical nukes could deliver in terms of disasters.
The West no matter what it says will have to stay buddies with China given the massive manufacturing and processing plant it is these days and the lower prices China charges compared to the West. Same for European manufacturers who rely on China to make many parts for the things they brand as ‘made in’ Europe or UK. Even ‘Swiss’ watches are full of Chinese parts these days.

Posted by: George | Jul 15 2025 4:21 utc | 312

Big Serge ☦️🇺🇸🇷🇺 (@witte_sergei)
Trying to parse through Trump’s “major announcement” about Russia and Ukraine, and it’s a little hard to figure out exactly what’s going on. {{Doh!/ Trump’s super power}}
He starts by saying that they’re sending more Patriot batteries to Ukraine, but clarifies that they are being “paid for” by the Europeans, which makes it a little unclear if these are existing stock or if Europe is buying new production for Ukraine, which would obviously greatly affect the delivery timetable.
Now they are hosting Mark Rutte in the Oval Office, and their remarks make it sound like what’s actually happening is the Europeans are going to send Ukraine the Patriot systems in their own inventories and then replace them with new orders from the US. Germany has been talking about sending Ukraine four Patriot batteries. Ukraine has received a total of eight so far. Next, Trump is giving Russia 50 days to make a peace deal (lol) or he’ll impose a 100% additional tariff. Russian markets jumped on this announcement, so safe to say this doesn’t register as much of a threat.
Finally, you have the “sledgehammer” sanctions package currently in the Senate, which would authorize Trump to levy a 500% import tariff on countries that import Russian fossil fuels. That’s basically trying to hold a loaded gun to the head of China, India, and the EU.
Considering, just for example, that Trump initially tried to set the import tariff on China at 145% and then negotiated that down to 30%, it’s really hard to imagine him blowing up the entire system by slapping a fresh 500% on them just over Ukraine.
Lindsay Graham likes the idea because he’s a bloodthirsty, unreconstructed golem, but the number is just so far outside the bounds of what Trump has been working towards on tariffs that it does not come across as a serious policy.
So, bottom line: Ukraine should get partial replacement of its air defense with Euro Patriots to be replaced by new orders, Trump’s “major announcement” is another tariff on Russia that doesn’t do anything, and the war party in the Senate wants to blow up the international trading system with enormous tariffs on China, India, and the EU because they have the audacity to import fossil fuels.
https://nitter.net/witte_sergei/status/1944789470932570540

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 15 2025 4:24 utc | 313

Maybe there has been for a long time a view amongst those like most on this website who hate American and western hegemony to look at Putin as a saviour who can do nothing wrong. The current ’revelation’ in this interview of Putin and many of the comments expose a mixture of naivety and hypocrisy. Putin consistently over the years speaks of the west as ‘partners’. Lavrov’s children are American citizens. Russia even aspired to join NATO under Putin and was rebuffed. To continue all this charade, Russian state current policy is divided between true patriots and international facing oligarchs who resent being cut off from their soulmates in the west.
So Russia has endured many humiliations in this war. Its Black Sea fleet has been rendered ineffective. Its territorial integrity violated and Moscow bombed several times not to mention its nuclear strategic bombers attacked successfully. Can you imagine what America would do if any of this happened to it?
Then we have the humiliation in Syria and more recently the bombing of Iran where Russian allies were treated the same way as America treats it allies. ‘America has no allies it has interests’ this turns up to be true also of Russia.
Then let us look at this ideological differences. So now Russia has formed an alliance with two countries that are ‘communist’. Did Putin not see that a military pact with North Korea is not ideological but geopolitical? And what about China?
But frankly the whole charade has been exposed by the genocide in Gaza. Russian reaction is a mixture of being muted, to almost admiration of plucky Israel to even emulating their methods. Putin is now using the occupation of the rest of the world with the genocide to mass bomb Ukraine and to carry out ‘decapitation’.
So where is the truth in all of this. Russia will stand as also the west to be accused of standing by as a witness observing a genocide and tacitly supporting it.

Posted by: Orage | Jul 15 2025 4:26 utc | 314

Question: why 1054? I understand the Great Schism, but Vladimir the Great converted to Christianity in 988.
Posted by: SPQR | Jul 14 2025 13:07 utc | 4

AI Overview
The complete phrase is: “Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?” This is from the Bible, specifically Matthew 7:16. It’s a rhetorical question used to illustrate that you can’t expect good things to come from bad sources. In other words, you judge the quality of a person or thing by their actions or “fruits”.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 15 2025 4:28 utc | 315

But why did it take Putin and Russia until 2022 to accept the consequences of this insight?
I think that is concomitant of Putin’s philosophy. Ev’ry possible opportunity to back off gracefully. …

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 15 2025 4:38 utc | 316

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 15 2025 3:35 utc | 302
Well done… You nailed it.
May I just add: “but he and he’s country weren’t ready yet”.
It seems there are now.
And it also seems we’re on for Auschwitz reversed +Hiroshima +Yalta +Breton Woods +Whatever…
Interesting times…

Posted by: Sebgo | Jul 15 2025 4:46 utc | 317

…[Russian] People are tired. Everyone is tired and wants to make a finnish and begin to return to a most simple life…
Posted by: Esophagus | Jul 14 2025 23:24 utc | 241

This is just not true. For most of the people, I’d say 90%, the SMO exist just as a part of their news scroll. People do care, if they want they can assist the effort in lots of available ways, but it is not compulsory. People just do not FEEL in their daily lives that the SMO is going on. Why should they be tired? Of what?

Posted by: Rutte | Jul 15 2025 4:47 utc | 318

The number of siofascists and socks who have infested the bar is a sure sign that at least the Narrative Manufacturers War goes well for them, if not on the front lines.
Further to my late night musings on DJT’s emperors new clothes reality it seems I’m not alone:
‘ Sprinter Observer
@SprinterObserve
5h
TRUMP IS BIDEN (Yes, you read it right)
Here’s proof Trump is working for the Deep State (or Israel?) and his “America First” is nothing more than a lie.
🔴 Trump used to criticize Biden for sending weapons to Ukraine. Now, the Trump administration is sending more weapons to Ukraine.
🔴 “Biden created the Epstein files,” Trump said. And promised to release them. Now he claims there are none.
🔴 Trump used to love Kurds: “Come and live with us in America,” he said, “they’re welcome to do it.”
🔴 Trump vowed to crack down on illegal immigrants. But he betrayed his voter base by backing mass amnesty for farmworkers. Seems he works in favor of oligarch mega-donors.
🔴 Trump struck a deal with Alex Karp — СEO of CIA-backed Palantir, to create the LARGEST surveillance police state in American history. The same Karp also bragged about stopping Europe’s “far right.” Why would Trump, a supposed “right-wing populist,” allow a self-proclaimed “progressive” like Karp to infiltrate the US govt?
🔴 Trump’s ready to BOMB COUNTRIES for the sake of Israel. He supports the misdeeds in Gaza unconditionally. He called terrorist Julani that Israel installed to rule Syria an “attractive guy with a very strong past.” Who, if not the Deep State, fancies jihadists that much?
Jul 14, 2025 · 10:12 PM UTC ‘
&
‘GenXGirl
@GenXGirl1994
10h
Folks in denial about Trump’s involvement with underaged girls, how do you dismiss the claims of so many ppl who corroborate similar events?
– Katie Johnson, victim
– Andy Lucchesi, Trump party coordinator
– Michael Wolff, writer
– Barbara Pilling, victim
– Trump Party Guests
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Jul 7
Michael Wolff claims Epstein showed him photos of Trump with under age girls!
Jul 14, 2025 · 5:06 PM UTC ‘’
————
So yes, the khazar old Vampyres are still having a ball!
It’s their ball.
They decide who will play with it.
Once they were put in a Pale
They went Beyond it.
One must understand that statement in that original context to know that WE too, the Collective Waste are that historical infamy.
Why we have been raised to have a race memory of Russophobia
We too are tarred by that same khazar brush.
We can claim ignorance – because our history is written by our owners – the khazars.
They own the collective waste
They made all Eurocentric institutions and nations.
Including the USA
They own academia and media and they use it to own the politicians.
Look at the NewYork mayoral ‘race’ as all the stops are pulled to get the siofascist $ out to re-elect their ‘black face’ to stop the ‘brown face’
Know your enemy.
Know they are the enemy of humanity.
They believe THEY own humanity
They want heir khazar empire BACK.
NO MATTER how long it takes, no matter how man die
No matter how many times and what Shapeshifting they must endure.
So it’s THEM who insist it’s about THEM and the rest of humanity.
Xi and Putin and friends
China and Russia
Are aiming to send THEM back to a New Pale.
For us in the Waste , this summer dawn in Europe, the choice is simple.
Either we shit into that multipolar pail (bucket) or get off it and be doomed to live in Borrell’s jungle as the ziofascist slaves for another few generations until we collapse into backward humans … left behind by real Human Civilisational progress

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 15 2025 5:05 utc | 319

”If we’re at the stage of the war where the US military is getting stripped of its heavy equipment and advanced munitions in the same wholesale way that European NATO already has been, the Russians have won and we haven’t noticed it yet”.

https://nitter.net/ArmchairW/status/1944900376869601711
And The Internet response: —-
>…”The US has reached a production rate that can continuously support the war effort. These weapons are coming right from the factory to nato to Ukraine”
§|: Armchair: “incorrect”
>…”meh…The US has more weapons than NATO can afford”
^^^ At what point do the keyboard warriors wake to discover the U$ weapons cache is kaput!
____
Meanwhile, back at the sloSMO …

Pokrovsk is closer to falling than anyone yet realises.
Novoekonimiche has been completely cleared; the main supply artery of the city is less than 7 km from Russian positions and is already under fire. Additionally, several units have already been redeployed to Storm Rodynske.

https://nitter.net/SibirPrizrak/status/1944749677062111388
——-

Russian forces have broken through towards the city of Rodynske, northeast of Pokrovsk.
Reports state that Russian soldiers are advancing between the reservoirs towards the village of Chervonyi Lyman, and that Russian soldiers entered the Krasnolymanskaya Mine.
The latter remains unclear, as these could just be DRGs. Meanwhile, FAB glide-bombs targeted Rodynske city centre, coinciding with artillery shelling.

https://nitter.net/AMK_Mapping_/status/1944700544351940810
——-

MD (@distant_earth83)
Several Ukrainian channels report that Russian forces made a sudden push north of Pokrovsk and entered Rodinskoe, which is just four kilometers from Pokrovsk.
The start of fighting for this village means that Russian units managed to wedge into a key section of the front and have effectively cut off the supply line to the Kiev forces’ group in Pokrovsk and Mirnograd from the north. Essentially, the attack strategy here is unfolding exactly like it did in Ugledar — a city the Russian troops struggled to approach for a long time, but eventually took, along with its network of fortified positions, within about a week thanks to well-coordinated operations. After that, the front began to collapse in a chain reaction. Source: t.me/MChronicles

https://nitter.net/distant_earth83/status/1944457870248194089
~~~~~
Remember our serial pest Anonymous.? {maybe heshe-it still lurks}
Dear tard. ^This^ is what we so patiently explained.
Grind, grind, grind, de-fang/“demilitarise” U$NATO … and *then* accelerate.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 15 2025 5:20 utc | 320

Nothing more than that innocent action is required to drive all of the evil we see capitalism commit. That is why I avoid calling out greed as the cause for geopolitical crises.
Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 14 2025 21:59 utc | 215
Excellent point.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 15 2025 0:46 utc | 265

Baird in Ukraine as NDP questions $80,000 arms sales during Yanukovych regime | https://www.cp24.com/news/baird-in-ukraine-as-ndp-questions-80-000-arms-sales-during-yanukovych-regime-1.1707881
Yuppie, Get Your Gun https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/ukraine-young-partisans-106411/
Transcript of leaked Nuland-Pyatt call https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957
Obama Admits US “Brokered” Coup in Ukraine https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/fzgps/date/2015-02-01/segment/01
Seven Decades of Nazi Collaboration: America’s Dirty Little Ukraine Secret
you and others will enjoy https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/seven-decades-nazi-collaboration-americas-dirty-little-ukraine-secret/
Is that `Innocent Action’ in the bar with us now, William?

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 15 2025 5:24 utc | 321

Putin: ‘I thought that the contradictions with the West were primarily ideological.’
Interesting the way Marxist thought still has a hold over the Russian mentality.
By trying to shoehorn a materialist paradigm into an idealist framework, Marx ended up with his notion of ‘contradiction’. Under a strictly materialist framework, contradictions must be material; but contradictions also cannot/should not exist. Therefore, to resolve the contradiction, one of the positions must be eliminated.
Hence, a philosophy designed for maximum and prolonged conflict in trying to eliminate all the ‘contradictions’ in the world.
In this regard, I remember some words from the foremost poet of our times: ‘Where some of the best-known enemies of mankind dwell, Mr. Freud with his dreams, Mr. Marx with his ax’.

Posted by: MrB | Jul 15 2025 5:36 utc | 322

Hi.
THAT’S THE PROBLEM
As long as Putin shares the same ideology, he is condemned to converge with the imperialists, and therefore ultimately to submit, since he already has it ideologically.
To really oppose, to arouse support, we need another ideology. It’s as simple as A and B are distinct, whereas A and A are the same.
Putin: “The world respects only those who can protect themselves,”
Not at all! A hegemon by definition will do everything to break this resistance and submit.
B: “My very first thought when reading that was ‘what took him so long’.”
Why does B wonder, because when you share the same ideology, you expect to agree, to reach agreements. This is where the whole mistake lies. But also the beginning of the solution.
Have a nice day.

Posted by: Luc Laforets | Jul 15 2025 5:43 utc | 323

‘But why did it take Putin and Russia until 2022 to accept the consequences of this insight?’
Wrong question. Most conflicts have both an ideological and pragmatic (interests) component. Putin knows this. The more interesting question is: why is Putin trying to shift the narrative at this time?
It’s probably too soon to spring a ceasefire and negotiations on the Russian people right now, even though many would be quietly relieved at such an outcome. Speculatively, Putin may be trying to move the Russian people towards the prospect of negotiations in preparation for when it may become necessary.
This does not mean that Putin will stop the saturation bombing of Ukrainian cities and the killing and maiming of Ukrainian citizens, nor his maximalist demands. And he still has to launch his summer offensive (although may already have done so).
But in shifting the narrative, Putin has opened the way to negotiations. Why?
One answer could be that ideology tends to be immovable – people will cling to their beliefs even in the face of defeat. Despite Putin’s best efforts at external narrative control, he has failed to create a groundswell of Western opposition to the Ukraine conflict.
Interests, on the other hand, are malleable, and therefore subject to negotiation.

Posted by: MrB | Jul 15 2025 5:51 utc | 324

Noises dismissed. …

Yes, propaganda is necessary for the masses, but

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 15 2025 6:28 utc | 325

… Western animosity against Russia goes back many centuries. (Maybe even further back than the big schism of 1054) …

One possible explanation, though it likely won’t be the only one, is that Russians are Slavs, and in the past Slavs (before they became Christian) were frequently captured, enslaved and sold as slaves throughout Christian Europe. The word “slave” comes from a Latin word for Slav, and over time that word became synonymous with being in forced servitude.
We may no longer think of Slavs as slaves, but somehow the attitude that Slav people should know their place in the pecking order of European peoples remains. In this view, the unforgivable sin committed by Russians is that they have dared to become a great and independent power.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jul 15 2025 6:37 utc | 326

An interesting piece of news from the Press Trust of India (PTI):
“As far as I know, by the end of the year, 1 million specialists from India will come to Russia, including the Sverdlovsk region. A new Consulate General is opening in Yekaterinburg, which will deal with these issues,” Andrey Besedin, the head of the Ural Chamber of Commerce and Industry, told the RosBusinessConsulting (RBC) news agency.
Besedin said the migration of Indians would fill the shortage of a highly qualified workforce in the Sverdlovsk region.
The Rupees India pays to Russia for the oil they purchase can be used to partly pay these workers! Balance the trade, BRICS style!
Link to PTI News

Posted by: gb_grave | Jul 15 2025 6:38 utc | 327

Russia, China, and India all getting closer together due to Trump’s madness. S. Jaishankar and Wang Yi at SCO:
“Since our leaders’ meeting in Kazan in October 2024, the India-China relationship has been gradually moving in a positive direction,” the Indian Foreign Minister said. “Our responsibility is to maintain that momentum.”

Posted by: George | Jul 15 2025 6:46 utc | 328

… They never recovered from this defeat…Georgius Tzul, allegedly a Christian and the last Khazaraian khagan, collapsed along with his khaganate to the knees of a combined Byzantine and Rus’ian force in January 1016. ’
Having been expelled they went to western and Northern Europe with their wealth to counter ‘lack of naval power, lack of natural geographical defenses, and lack of self-dependency on resources ’
Thus began William the Conquerer …

🙄 😆 😂 … 🤣;

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 15 2025 6:54 utc | 329

It is always about ‘freedom’. The kind that comes with looting…

Posted by: CK | Jul 15 2025 7:13 utc | 330

You mean this interview ?
https://sonar21.com/putin-speaks-trump-postures/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Idb1VGR6k (8 minutes).

Posted by: WMG | Jul 15 2025 7:16 utc | 331

Hi.
THAT’S THE PROBLEM
As long as Putin shares the same ideology, he is condemned to converge with the imperialists, and therefore ultimately to submit, since he already has it ideologically.
To really oppose, to arouse support, we need another ideology. It’s as simple as A and B are distinct, whereas A and A are the same.
Putin: “The world respects only those who can protect themselves,”
Not at all! A hegemon by definition will do everything to break this resistance and submit.
B: “My very first thought when reading that was ‘what took him so long’.”
Why does B wonder, because when you share the same ideology, you expect to agree, to reach agreements. This is where the whole mistake lies. But also the beginning of the solution.
Have a nice day.
Posted by: Luc Laforets | Jul 15 2025 5:43 utc | 323
AGREE 100% I have totally changed my opinion of Putin …. and the posiition Russia is in, and why.
Plus I no longer see him as wise or clever or responsible good leader for the nation …. could be worse of course. but he is very dull witted and has his priorities somewhat wrong…. apart from being people first orientated like china is.
BUT better than the alternative back in 1999 … then again the whole world is fucked so who cares, I do not.

Posted by: William | Jul 15 2025 7:43 utc | 332

Britain and France blame Russia about their failure in Africa
and point their finger because it’s always easier to put the blame anyone than to recognize its own responsibility.

Posted by: Christian Cheneau | Jul 15 2025 7:48 utc | 333

DunGroanin
FTR, the Normans were Vikings from Denmark, not Khazars.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 15 2025 7:52 utc | 334

It’s all about the oil, the grease, the precious. The markets built upon it’s back and the vig collected from those.
The good easy to get stuff is is running low and nations are scrambling to ensure supply. For their militaries not their people. To continue the scramble for more.
I know some will shout that oil is plentiful and cheap. Ok then WHY:
– Is there such a thing as hydraulic fracking?
– Are there US troops at Al Tanf?
– Does anyone care about ‘natural gas’?
Answer me these questions three hehehe.
Our world leaders are so short sighted. Fresh water is the resource to scramble for.
I see it playing out like this:
– Rutte will slurp Trump while slow walking then reneging.
– Ursula and Merz will slurp Trump while slow walking then reneging.
– Xi will say “No magnets for you.” If pushed too far.
– Putin will continue to say “No thank you.” And grind on.
Will Trump even last until mid terms with this own goal Epstein thing blowing up in his face?
Tune in next week for another episode of Days of Our Lives.

Posted by: Inevitability | Jul 15 2025 8:11 utc | 335

@Melaleuca | Jul 15 2025 3:52 utc | 307
That ‘corridor’ is central to the North-South RF-Iran trade route – hence the attempt of the Hegemon to control it and stop the N_S route ….
First I’ve heard of the ‘private enterprise’ approach – and Azerbaijan craves annexing it to create direct access to Turkey its main backer – with Israel and the Hegemon in support.
Pivot point of the Great Game – and a puppet in power in Armenia.
# You are on a roll on this thread with all those relevant links

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 15 2025 8:46 utc | 336

Posted by: Giyane | Jul 15 2025 3:40 utc | 305
Fuck off Giyane.

Posted by: Bob the Builder | Jul 15 2025 8:57 utc | 337

Re: Posted by: snake | Jul 14 2025 16:42 utc | 88

<=BRICS will be 50 days stronger and after the 50th day.. the threat will be extended 500 days.. ? Putin's plan is for the Russian army to take the rest of Ukraine in 49 days?

Surely you just, the Russians won’t even take the rest of Donbass in 49 days, maybe in 500 days – I guess they have to be some chance by 2027!

Posted by: Julian | Jul 15 2025 9:20 utc | 338

Posted by: DoesItReallyMatter | Jul 14 2025 18:52 utc | 149
Our difference is that I use the regular meaning of greed, which is non-comparative. Greed is an excessive desire for more of something (such as money) than is needed. In the definition, the presence of “the other” is not necessary. The greedy individual just want to have more and more, regardless of others.
But what Anglo wants to think of itself is that no one else is richer than itself, it is a comparative emotion. So I am using pride and hubris.
Your use of greed is closer to pride and hubris, I think.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jul 15 2025 9:28 utc | 339

Re: Posted by: pepe | Jul 14 2025 16:52 utc | 92

The maths are simple.
60-days planned ceasefire in Gaza ongoing genocide.
50-days planned ceasefire deal in long-gone Ukraine as a state.
==> Window = (60 – 50) = 10 days?
Those 10 days shall be key on what’s next.

No, this is silly.
There is no “key” here. At all.

Posted by: Julian | Jul 15 2025 9:32 utc | 340

Meanwhile S has posted his take on trumps package (and more stuff(
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/trumps-weapons-magic-show-is-smoke

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 15 2025 9:35 utc | 341

@ MrB | Jul 15 2025 5:51 utc | 324
You might be correct. But I sensed no or perhaps the opposite spin. Putin might be saying it simply because it’s patently obvious. Or he is trying to tell his people: “They want to destroy us and conquer us no matter what we believe. They attack us because we exist.” It’s a warning to the frog about the nature of the scorpion. Accordingly, the frog must stop entertaining illusions about frog-scorpion relations. Seems like a call for greater vigilance and antipathy towards the scorpion.

Posted by: I forgot | Jul 15 2025 9:42 utc | 342

@ UWDude | Jul 14 2025 21:43 utc | 213
> “They essentially froze the money of their friends, the oligarchs they want to topple Putin. … It’s all just kind of silly that they threaten to do it, but never do, don’t you think? I mean, it seems like a no-brainer, and yet, it hasn’t been done, so there must be more to it.”
Plausible. I had been speculating they’re waiting until they feel more confident gaslighting the world that “we’re taking this money because the recons costs are already much higher”. But, after reading your intuitive take, my gut agrees with you.

Posted by: I forgot | Jul 15 2025 10:04 utc | 343

Hey guys Trump just gave VVP 50 dayz. Ultimatum yoze.
Seems we have a serious leader. Brennan what’s yer take, bro?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 15 2025 10:08 utc | 344

Excellent thread, thank you….
I am only on the page 1.
Here is the full interview of Pres. Putin, it is short, translated.
In Sonar:
https://sonar21.com/putin-speaks-trump-postures/
Helmer had an excellent article, also including the above amongst the other things.
seems that Pres. Putin finally understood that trump is absolutely incapable of understanding anything, thus also incapable of any ‘deal’.
General stuff was more aware, and faster in understanding, but constrained by Putin.No more.
I for a long time have thought that Trump was clinically insane.
Very worrying situation, the world war is now on the horizon. Only the civilizational wisdom and maturity of the East, Russia included, China, Iran…have postponed it till now…
https://johnhelmer.net/trump-escalates-ukraine-war-putin-acknowledges-reality-is-turning-out-to-be-marxist/

Posted by: stranger | Jul 15 2025 10:09 utc | 345

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 15 2025 7:52 utc | 334
thanks Laurence for stating the obvious as the nose on one’s face. Let’s dance!
The point is that somehow the Bastard Son Of a Norman lord on the coast of northern France – Normandy, somehow managed to raise troops – mercenaries, from there to Belgium (Flanders) – equip and PAY them to lead the ‘invasion’ of ‘England’ against err… a Norman and Anglo Saxon tribes of Britain. (There being no England until afterwards).
There was supposedly some deal between Harold and several ‘successors’ to hand over the proxy England to Guillame; and even another Harold. All a bit murky still in ‘history’ because as you know that is written by the ‘winners’.
Such great endeavours take several lifetimes and great wealth to raise the armies that deliver the Prize! The answer to most History, obfuscated as it always is by the winners , is the most reliable saw – ‘Follow the Money’.
And you know who had ALL the Money back then?
Not so much now days.
What and Who do you think the Most Powerful Khazarian Empire was ?
How were they the mightiest – more than the various Italianates even.
They of course were the ‘richest’ by ruling over the ‘Silk and Spice and SLAVE roads and lands. Uptimately they collected and supplied the ‘ special product’ that didn’t come from Asia – China or India. The slaves from the Slavs they preyed upon. The ones who came together as the Rus to finally beat them and throw them out of their ‘ancient Magick yellow brick (silk) roads.
One of the clearest pointers is the Domesday Book that was assembled under Guillame the Conquerant ! Such an endeavour of ‘accounting’ that didn’t come naturally to Vikings or Saxons – which showed that 10% of the Brits were slaves! A set of accounts to track their erm ‘investment’.
A very entertaining document worthy of the khazars who commissioned the ‘purchase’ of the British isles as they had of various coastal European lands from where to launch their future attempts to regain their Lost Empire.
As we see their Old Money buys Anything methods now being desperately deployed in Ukraine – the ‘Raw Earths’ of the Donald; and in the Levant – The neo-riviera and artificial islands; and even today in the attempted ownership of the Armenian lands! Even the Greenland can be USA aping the Louisiana and Alaska ‘land purchases’ …
America is based on just that philosophy The crazed might makes right credo that has the current appointed Khazar emperor demanding the whole world should be for sale and be happy to accept endlessly printed $, to be accepted as the modern shiny baubles, that they fooled some Native Americans supposedly selling them Manhatten Island!
The shapeshifters don’t see humans as equals, but ‘resources’ like wild horses and cattle to be gathered or culled as they see fit.
They used the Holy Roman Empire to control the statelets of such ‘resources’, through the various marriages it would allow of disallow, and therefore control the allegiance’s of the proto states around Europe. Ultimately it came down to the marriage ‘contracts’.
A couple of such characters leads to ‘uncharted’ connections.
Gerberga of Gleiberg (German :Gerberga von Gleiberg ,c. 970 – aft. 1036)was a noblewoman of the early Holy Roman Empire, known for her dynastic connections to several prominent European houses.
Who is descended from Megingoz (c. 920 – 998/1001) (nicknamed the Brown) was of unknown origin.[1] At the end of the 10th century, he played a part in the history of what later came to be known as the county of Guelders. He is also named as Count of Avalgau.
Anyway … you could search many public archives and get no further- or you need to search the Vatican’s! But much is hidden there still from the end of the Roman and birth of the Holy Roman Empires. Or you can do painstaking dot discovery and attempt to draw the picture. As I have over a decade…
See Laurence ? FTR – its as plain as the nose on your face! 😉

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 15 2025 10:12 utc | 346

“ This does not mean that Putin will stop the saturation bombing of Ukrainian cities and the killing and maiming of Ukrainian citizens, ”
Mr B@5:51
You have never heard of these saturation bombing? – Warsaw, Guernica, Rotterdam, Belgrade, Leningrad, London etc, etc carried out on Hitler’s orders?
Or what about Cologne, Hamburg, Dresden,, Berlin, Tokyo and many hundreds more saturation bombings carried out by Churchill and Roosevelt?
Or North Korea, or Vietnam or the destruction of the Plain of Jars in Cambodia carried out by the US
Or Belgrade (again), and Libya carried out by NATO
“But they are all so long ago” I hear you say.
Ok go and look at the rubble that was Gaza , an urban enclave where over two million lived and though much reduced in number still remain in tent cities, which of course are saturation bombed by Israel with full NATO support
You don’t seem to understand the meaning of the phrase “saturation bombing”. With this in mind I suggest you go and read AC Grayling’s “Amongst the Burnt Out Cities”. Though I don’t agree with Grayling completely, reading his exposition might allow to you to use the phrase “saturation bombing” without others questioning your integrity

Posted by: will moon | Jul 15 2025 10:12 utc | 347

“Trump’s Empty Threats”; “Trump Smoke and Mirrors”, “Trump not done with Putin”. Sure.
Apparently Putin is supposed to be running a SMO that is one where no one gets killed – like in Hollywood, or else the Orange Erratic Clown will get very upset.

Posted by: George | Jul 15 2025 10:17 utc | 348

🇪🇺🇺🇸🇺🇦🇷🇺Details have emerged of what the scheme with the purchase of weapons from the United States for Ukraine will look like.
Der Spiegel reports that there will be no direct deliveries, and weapons will go through third countries: first, the third country transfers its existing weapons to Ukraine, and compensates for supplies through the purchase of new weapons from the Americans.
In particular, Germany, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Britain, the Netherlands and Canada will participate in such a scheme.

suckers.

🇺🇸🇺🇦🇷🇺❗️Trump called on Zelensky to intensify strikes deep into Russia, – FT
The US President called this strategy “to make Russians feel the pain” and force the Kremlin to the negotiating table.

“peace”president.

🇩🇪🇺🇸🇺🇦Germany is discussing the purchase of Typhon launchers from the United States, designed to launch Tomahawk missiles capable of hitting targets at a distance of 2,000 kilometers – that is, in Russia.
This was announced by German Defense Minister Pistorius, who discussed this idea with Pentagon chief Hegset in the United States, ntv reports. Hegset is not against it.

cuban missile crisis redux.
are the german nazis going to station those in germany, or are they “donating” them to the ukraine to continue the genocide of slavic people, something nazi germany and todays germany desire so much?
nazis never change.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 15 2025 10:38 utc | 349

As someone here pointed out the possible parallels between Trumps talk on Epstein and sending weapons to Ukraine via NATO, what happens if he actually sends some TLAMs?
Never know what is true but:
“During a call on July 4th, U.S. President Donald J. Trump privately encouraged Ukraine to step-up deep strikes on targets inside of Russia, even asking Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky whether he could strike Moscow if the U.S. provided long-range missiles and other weapons, according to people briefed on the discussions who spoke with the Financial Times.”

Posted by: ed4 | Jul 15 2025 10:38 utc | 350

Donald Trump has asked Volodymyr Zelensky whether he could strike Moscow if the U.S. provided long-range weapons, according to reports.
‘Volodymyr, can you hit Moscow? . . . Can you hit St Petersburg too?’ Trump asked during the July 4 call between the US and Ukrainian leaders, the Financial Times reported on Tuesday, citing people briefed on the discussions.
They said Zelensky replied: ‘Absolutely. We can if you give us the weapons.’
Trump signalled his support for the idea, describing the strategy as intended to ‘make them [Russians] feel the pain’ and force the Kremlin to the negotiating table, according to the two people briefed on the call.

Posted by: Jo | Jul 15 2025 11:00 utc | 351

Trump signalled his support for the idea
Posted by: Jo | Jul 15 2025 11:00 utc | 351

And just like that Trump put his children’s skin in the game.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 15 2025 11:10 utc | 352

Justpassinby@349……long range weapons, capable of hitting deep into Russia’s rear, sounds like Zman is planning an election celebration surprise for Russia…..all Russians.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jul 15 2025 11:24 utc | 353

Posted by: ed4 | Jul 15 2025 10:38 utc | 350
Simply kabuchi. It’s the west that can hit, not Ukraine.

Posted by: Mario | Jul 15 2025 11:35 utc | 354

“are the german nazis going to station those in germany, or are they “donating” them to the ukraine to continue the genocide of slavic people”
Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 15 2025 10:38 utc | 349

Sounds like the first, as one would think they are wiser than that with regard to the latter, but who knows I put -nothing- past them.
Regarding the latter though and why it’s unwise, I could see ukr then storing “their” launchers in PL, driving them over the border a few miles, firing and driving them back, or even more scullduggery where they throw the launcher on a regular ship (flagged ukr) or not, that launches from where ever in the Baltic, Barrets, where ever given the range, which once done, then opens the door for any other actors with 109’s to then do launches of their own (say from uk subs) and just claim “Ukraine did it”. That kinda thing would spiral quite quickly imho as ru has no reliable way of knowing who launched what (let along what warhead is attached or what variant while in flight BGM\UGM\RGM) and must assume the worst with regard to the 6 operators of said weapons, and their production\assembly sources in AZ and AR.

Posted by: knighthawk | Jul 15 2025 11:39 utc | 355

After just half a year in office, DJT has pretty much sold out on everything that was to separate him from the Washington establishment. It culminated in the plan to resume weapons shipments to Kiev, and not just defensive ones. Its second culmination point is DJT’s anouncement to enter a dual sanctions regime in order to deter China, India and others from buying Russian oil. It brings to mind Britain’s recent efforts to block Russia’s oil exports by covertly attacking ships carrying oil from Russian ports. The former pirate nation is now aiming to scare the owners of such ships away from offering their services to Russia.
A total global trade war on Russia! Sounds pretty threatening. One must not forget, however, that slapping a 100% tariff on all US imports from “offending” countries, will reduce the US trade as well and lead to self-isolation, thereby weakening the US power to make threats in the long run.
Trump’s fault was to invite the wrong set of people to his White House dinner events. In particular Mossad has its own experts in persuasion, perfectionizing the art of reading the other’s mind and specifically exploiting that person’s weaknesses. John Perkins and Udo Ulfkotte, in their famous books, have revealed some of these methods. Obama, as well, fell victim to the persuasive poweer of the neocons, after, in his second term, having disposed of Hillary Clinton, he had quite a promising start in foreign politics.
That DJT might eventually run out of patience in his negotiating efforts with Putin was to be expected, and was predicted by many here at MoA. Putin cannot give away lightly the bargaining chips he has, and they happen to be mostly in the military arena. Everybody can understand this, but DJT perceives it as a threat to his ego.

Posted by: grunzt | Jul 15 2025 11:45 utc | 356

Posted by: Mario | Jul 15 2025 11:35 utc | 354 “Simply kabuchi. It’s the west that can hit, not Ukraine.”
So no real difference from HIMARs? And before that 155mm artillery and before that…

Posted by: ed4 | Jul 15 2025 12:03 utc | 357

Posted by: too scents | Jul 15 2025 11:10 utc | 352 “And just like that Trump put his children’s skin in the game.”
Don’t think is is a much of a threat. After all, is Trump a guy who cares about anything but his own ego?

Posted by: ed4 | Jul 15 2025 12:05 utc | 358

As much as I like Putin he lies like the arch-master.
Russia today was created by The Moscow Company in XVI, crooks and thieves from Holland and England. Russsian blueprint is the Gibbon’s “Rise and Fall of the Romen Empire”.
Moscov now plays the “3th Rome”, but it is the fresh play, not even 300 years old.
War is about dying $, but “the West” (whatever it is) does not hate Russia. The West plays its own population to make them look the other way when their house is on fire.
There is not hate there. Only blind panic.

Posted by: Bendin | Jul 15 2025 12:06 utc | 359

Laurence@316…..so his street fighter analogy was just a warm fuzzy bed time story….figures.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jul 15 2025 12:13 utc | 360

3 years in and The Washington War Party still mistakenly believes 87% of the world are backward primatives who kneel in awe before the might and glory on the Potomac.
Extraordinary Delusions for sure.

Posted by: Exile | Jul 15 2025 12:28 utc | 361

You don’t seem to understand the meaning of the phrase “saturation bombing”
Posted by: will moon | Jul 15 2025 10:12 utc | 347
The math that some people do to reach those conclusions is based on the numbers provided by Ukr and only Ukr, even though no image or video suggest anything close to that.
Russia has never provided, as far as I can see on news agencies, a number of strikes per day/month per area. Ukr invents those numbers, hundreds of drones, missiles, bombs every single night in village x, city y and so on, to match their fantastic “success” rate of millions of interceptions per day, have a reason to ask for more money and weapons. They even draw maps with exact paths of every single missile. If they know where they are so precisely, why they only “intercept” them with the targets? Sometimes people forget the source. Trumpy’s source and advisor on Ukr is: foxnews.com/politics/trump-reveals-melanias-key-role-dealing-putin-ukraine-war

Posted by: rk | Jul 15 2025 12:39 utc | 362

Posted by: ed4 | Jul 15 2025 12:03 utc | 357
Longer range, depending on what is delivered, but not any difference.
155 shells can be fired by Ukraine but not missiles.

Posted by: Mario | Jul 15 2025 12:40 utc | 363

i am an impotent idiot tilting at windmills
thank you for your attention to this matter!

Posted by: earl | Jul 15 2025 12:52 utc | 364

Attn: Bendin #359
That’s Gibbon’s “The DECLINE and Fall of the Roman Empire”.

Posted by: Retired Morlock | Jul 15 2025 13:09 utc | 365

B: “What else explains Napoleon’s march to Moscow?”
What a clown show you are running here! Bravo.
How about history of treaties and agreements between the French and Russian emperors to keep the “anglo-saxons” out of Europe?
How about the fact that Russians proved “agreement incapable”?
How about the fact that Russia broke its treaty with France?
How about the fact that Russia allowed Anglo-Saxon trade industry to flourish at the expense of the mainland Europe’s?
Do the idiots at the BRICS and various other “maybe, possibly, if convenient” alliances involving Russians (oh poor you who rely on R.U.) ever stop reading propaganda sites like this and actually consult the history books in the libraries??
Why did Napoleon attack Russia? Because Tsar Alexander proved himself to be a backstabbing aristocrat piece of shit. And if it wasn’t for Napoleon’s (ala Trump) homoerotic feelings for beekcafe Alex, he wouldn’t be cooling his heels in Moscow. No. He would have made a beeline for Petersberg and be done with the half-breed Romonovs for good.
“They attack us because they are envious of us!!”
Oy vey. Who else is constantly grabing other peoples’ shit and then whines about being victims of irrational aggression? None other than R.U.’s best secret friends in the Middle East.

Posted by: 🤡 | Jul 15 2025 13:24 utc | 366

Thanks b and Karlof1,
I have the feeling since beforw the beginning of the SMO that Putin is acting decisively but cautiously to identify who his ennemies really are. His search is methodical and both military and political (Efforts to become member of NATO, Minsk 1, Minsk 2, proposals for a mutual security architecture, SMO, negotiations in Belarus znd then Turkey, etc).
For the time being he is fighting against what the West trows at him in Eastdrn Ukraine while learning and developing weapons. During that time he sees the masks falling on the Western side. China, Iran, Pakistan etc are themsdlves waking up and seing the nep-colonial forces preparing for aggression. So Putin’s attitude of confronting the West forces the Western countries to expose thdmselves as breeding grounds and supporters of terrorism, fascism and genocide (Israel, Syria, etc) and financial extorsion through the IMF, the World bank and Wall Street.
The efforts of Russia against colonial forces in Ukraine has contributed to shed light on the West actual aims.
Maybe one can identify and isolate the group in the West that is directing this show and neutralize the culprits without destroying everything in the process. Unfortunately, the colonial attitude may be deeply rooted in the values promoted within the Western educational system and if so the conflict might last for a long time. I am talking about the opposition between the individualistic Western culture and the relatively more socially oriented Eastern cultures. This isn’t a black and white diffdrence in the popular culture but the difference is more apparent within the elites on both sides. However our current Western elites act more like sheeps following the flock than truly individualistic free-minded people; they act for their own interests, not for the common good.

Posted by: Richard L | Jul 15 2025 13:31 utc | 367

When is Brian Berletic going to be awarded an Oscar for the best geopolitical analyst on the internet ?
The Duran awards the red tomatoes ?
The Kissingerarians are furious at Trump yet again pushing Russia and China ever closer together. Don’t worry by the end of the week they will claim it was a nothing burger.
You do know Brian Berletic has been 100% right about everything and can’t be brushed under the carpet like a Rogoff debt chart ?

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 15 2025 13:43 utc | 368

I don’t know why the war isn’t over already ?
The idiots on here promised everybody there would be nobody to buy the bonds after the US raised the debt ceiling. America would be bankrupt. They were adamant about it said the US was in big, big, big trouble.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Will They stop , think, look in a mirror , understand why they have been so wrong for 40 years ?
Answers on a postcard below:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=29UH3Yovrn0&pp=ygUVbGF1Z2hpbmcgc291bmQgZWZmZWN0

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 15 2025 13:51 utc | 369

Who was right ?
Who knows the subject inside out of what they are actually talking about ?
Who said Rueters and Ray Dalio were spreading poison and gas lighting the sheep ? It was just another disco light for those who can’t think for themselves?
Don’t say thanks. Just smile and move along.
Please start fucking learning from your mistakes and learn how it really works. Then I’ll be happy.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 15 2025 13:59 utc | 370

“I am an impotent idiot tilting at windmills”
Earl@11:52
That seems harsh Earl, is it not that. your self-esteem is low and you seem unable to find meaning in your life without a “significant other”
If this is the case I suggest you consider that all change comes from “the windmills of your mind”. What sort of change is up to each mind to identify and proceed accordingly – don’t worry about the details, it’s a “big picture” thing. Just put your best foot forward and believe in yourself
I bet you have lots of nice qualities and nowadays impotence is treatable by simply popping a pill so things are not as bad as they seem are they? Soon you will be “porking” the “beef” or “beefing” the “pork” or whatever it is like Rush Limbaugh used to do and those windmills will be history
Go get ‘em Tiger!

Posted by: will moon | Jul 15 2025 14:08 utc | 371

“My very first thought when reading that was ‘what took him so long’.”
Exactly.
Always look at what the West is doing, not saying.

Posted by: Cycling Nut | Jul 15 2025 14:21 utc | 372

The people with the black ties have arrived, apparently.
Putin in an interview to Le Figaro in 2017:
“So a person is elected, he comes with ideas. Then people with briefcases come to visit him – in dark suits, kind of like mine. Except instead of a red tie ((Putin wears a read tie)) it’s black or navy. And then they explain what to do – the whole rhetorics changes, you see? This happens from one administration to the next.”
I like the subtle humor Putin is displaying here.

Posted by: mk | Jul 15 2025 14:56 utc | 373

Putin’s interview is available on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Idb1VGR6k (8 minutes).

Posted by: WMG | Jul 15 2025 15:38 utc | 374

ex-KGB maximum leader: Then people with briefcases come to visit him – in dark suits, kind of like mine.
Idiot on MoA: “He’s being subtle”.
Clown observer: He says the exact lines to multiple interviewers including rejectedby-CIA clown Tucker.
“Subtle point”: “kinda like mine”. Too subtle by far for the readership of this website. “Spook Goons run your nations just like spook goons run Russia. I should know. I am one of them.”

Posted by: 🤡 | Jul 15 2025 16:57 utc | 375

Sorry, guys, but “races”, that is, human sub-species or breeds like the Angus breed of cattle, don’t exist. And “Anglo-Saxon” is a dead language, ancestral to modern English.

Posted by: lester | Jul 15 2025 20:14 utc | 376

A “when I” story. Back in the early 80s, I worked on SOXMIS – British RMP unit which liaised/monitored Russia observers in the then West Germany. A throwback from WW II.
This day, we escorted a Russian car from the American sector, in the South, to Bonn, the then capital. To the Russian embassy. We dropped them off there and waited outside. The car came out after (about) 30 minutes. Within the car was a driver, an Education /Corps Major, his wife and son. The Major said that he had been told to go away for a sight-seeing and come back in two hours! Think about that….
We found a parkplatz and stopped. We mingled and talked. The Major said to me (I paraphrase) “You know, corporal. We, in the Soviet Union give money to those countries, in Africa, which we support to forward our socialist ideals. What do these leaders do? Spend it on themselves and not help their own people! What do we do? Give them more money to prevent them going over to you! And, you know, you, in the west, do the same thing! What do you think, corporal?”
We had an interesting afternoon. BUT, he, and the Bonn embassy knew, that when I went back to camp, I automatically contacted our Intelligence for a debrief……
This was back in the mid 80s. Just a thought……

Posted by: Joseph | Jul 15 2025 21:28 utc | 377

Signal to noise ratio is now impossible. NAFO types succeed, Bravo. I wonder how long your delusions can go on? Like this:

This does not mean that Putin will stop the saturation bombing of Ukrainian cities and the killing and maiming of Ukrainian citizens, nor his maximalist demands.

Do you even know what saturation bombing is, my sweet summer child? Russia makes the demands because Russia is triumphant. It will take a while for this to soak in to your thick fucking skulls.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jul 16 2025 0:21 utc | 378

First Nations launch legal challenge against Ontario, federal bills 5 and C-5 https://www.ctvnews.ca/northern-ontario/article/first-nations-launch-legal-challenge-against-ontario-federal-bills-5-and-c-5/

Both the federal and Ontario governments have said their laws are tools to counteract the effects of U.S. President Donald Trump’s tariffs by allowing Canadian development, such as natural resource development, to proceed more quickly.

Smoke meet fire. …

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 16 2025 0:38 utc | 379

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 15 2025 10:12 utc | 346
So it was you, not psychohistorian
Try
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/07/the-moa-week-in-review-ot-2025-155.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d3d83f6f200c#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d3d83f6f200c
and tell me what you think

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 16 2025 0:51 utc | 380

Posted by: I forgot | Jul 15 2025 9:42 utc | 342
‘They want to destroy us and conquer us no matter what we believe. They attack us because we exist.’
That claim is the usual whine we get from Putin when he’s feeling hard done by. The proof will be in the pudding. If we see the Russian propaganda mills (aka state media) start using Putin’s new line, then we will know there’s been a change.

Posted by: MrB | Jul 16 2025 1:24 utc | 381

Posted by: will moon | Jul 15 2025 10:12 utc | 347
‘You have never heard of these saturation bombing?’
Yes. As your selective list shows, saturation bombing is not a new thing. More to the point, you are engaging in whataboutism.
The thing about whataboutism is that you have already implicitly accepted the view that Russia’s bombing of Ukraine is indefensible. This is clear from your non-response to my claim about Putin’s willingness to bomb Ukrainian civilians into submission.

Posted by: MrB | Jul 16 2025 1:25 utc | 382

@Elial22 | Mon, 14 Jul 2025 17:26:00 GMT | 106

I see the comments going round in a big circle: greed, envy, hubris, ideology, capitalism, Putin just waking up, Putin’s hands tied, etc.
The big question really is who or what is the enemy Russia is fighting? Is there a semi-cohesive predatory entity which has behaved more or less consistently over several centuries, or is it all down to the bad side of human nature acting chaotically and seeming uniform?
I think that which created Zionism and gave birth to Israel and is quite OK with the genocide unfolding before our eyes is the root cause. I think it hides behind Judaism and behind victimhood. I think while it is a small group of Jews, it exploits Jews and exposes them to great risk. It is the very few which rule by dividing and making the many fight and kill each other.
Call it “the Rothschilds”, the City of London, Satanists, or whatever. The name itself is not important. Recognising it is.

Great post!

Posted by: persiflo | Jul 16 2025 1:26 utc | 383

The West has no particular animosity toward Russia. Napoleon invaded every country he could. France and Britain went into Crimea because they wanted to maintain a balance of power. Russia has been hostile to every neighboring country it ever had.

Posted by: David Smith | Jul 16 2025 8:07 utc | 384

@ Posted by: Newbie | Jul 16 2025 0:51 utc | 381
Your dates go into the future? I’ll riff on your statements let’s see where we go.
You could do worse than go read some Robert Graves for the antiquity/Roman era shenanigans of Lenders to the ‘Caesars’ of that Rome.
You appear also to have ignored the subcontinent, China, Latin and South Americas and – biggest eared elephant in the room – all the nations of massive Africa!
Your model fails on these omissions and over reliance on judaeophobia. It’s a weakness to the argument to blame it on a specific Abrahamic desert religion – one of many such belief systems going back many Millienia to the same root and routes of humanity OutOfAfrica.
The main ‘villains’ of history as I a while ago stated on MoA came out of the Turkic tribes of Central Asia – which coalesced as a piratical force along the trading routes between EurAsia and Africa and latterly to Europe.
Africa was the main source of much of the desire for the metals in exchange for the civilisational good coming out of EurAsia and the sub continent.
Much trade was carried on by the seas around nd the Arabian Sea and Indian oceans all the way to Japan- that would have involved the first mappers and travellers by use of astronomy – that knowledge that came with the formal academia of Chinese, subcontinentals and Persians.
Baghdad was an important crossroads and there were certain tribes which excelled there and had trade routes to North Africa and the Mediterranean and one of these tribals was likely Judaic. Other such trading tribals were Islamic/ Christian/ Nomadic etc.
The khazars that came out of the khanate though … were murderous pirates too and their accumulation through the control of the land corridors – right smack bang around the Crimea between the ‘two seas’ east to west and the north south are the ones who controlled the evolution of the Roman to the Holy Roman Empire as they sought conquest of all.
They pretty much perpetrated slavery throughout and have key it going into this millennium. – that in its own is the major crime aginst hummaity that deserves their ostracism from currrnt and future human civilisational progress.
They came very close to total hegemony several times most of all in the last Millenia with the Anglo-European imperial seaborn control of the oceans.
The last hundred years are the acme of these imperialist – USA and it’s Mickey Mouse founding myths and it’s now wholly revealed total control by the ziofascist robber barons – whose only connection with Judaism is that of taking on a bloody sheepskin cover when they were threatened by the escape of the Orthodox from the their Roman slave religion of Christianity.
That ended with the coalition of the many tribes into the Russians. The Slavs after whom the khazars spavery had s named. Hey and many Eurasians came together to destroy the mighty khazar empire and takeaway their tollbooths and slaving ways.
The illegal apartheid entity is the last gasp, grasp at taking the Levant and Persia and retake control on the trade routes. It is totally threatened by the BRI, North South Corridors by land and sea especially to Mighty Africa.
Which in a hundred years will surpass China, Russia and the Subcontinent in the numbers of humans on that largest continent. The greates variety of humanity and DNA as they becom the leaders of humanity and future of civilsation on the Earth where the future genius scientists will arise and from where Humans can actually hope to move into near space that will allow survival after thee inevitable cataclysms that will once again visit the Pl are from within and without.
That is the grand picture and the detail of today. Judaeophobia any xenophobia has no part in it.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 16 2025 9:16 utc | 385

“to bomb Ukrainian civilians into submission”
You used the phrase “carpet bombing” . This is a grave insult to those who have been or are being killed by carpet bombing.It is also factually incorrect. If you had just said “bombing” ,as you have in your re-formulation above, I would not have replied
Go and look at Gaza, that is carpet bombing. If you are Ukrainian just hope Russia doesn’t start “carpet bombing” your cities

Posted by: will moon | Jul 16 2025 9:47 utc | 386

DW: John Helmer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1CLU29YbUA
“Russia’s Oreshnik moment comes closer.”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 16 2025 12:20 utc | 387

“The conflict of the West with Russia is racial.
Anglo as one of the great human races has trouble accepting its decline.
Anglo has exerted predominance over Europe since the fall of the Spanish empire, the defeat of the Napeolonic empire, and the defeat of the German Reich.
Now the new threat is Russian Slavs, which combine large territory, large resources, White-Asian human stock and CAPITALISM.
That’s all.
It’s monkey business.”

False. Western elites don’t care at all about people of their own race as demonstrated by their coordinated policy of importing foreigners into their societies by the millions.

Posted by: Stylites II | Jul 17 2025 13:22 utc | 388

Putin has been involved in Russia politics a long time. He didn’t put a date stamp on that thought. I would put that time stamp at 1998/1999. The destruction and breakup of Yugoslavia. Yelstin’s last straw before the security state told him he had to go. In Karaganov’s interview with the Duran you can see Russian leaders of that era understood what needed to be done. He states quite forcefully they understood how important it was that they restore deterence and prepare for war. They picked Putin over the aging Primakov too for a reason. You can see that reason come to fruition in the second Chechen war. You see it again in Georgia a few years later in 2008.

Posted by: Goldhoarder | Jul 21 2025 11:45 utc | 389

Posted by: David Smith | Jul 16 2025 8:07 utc | 385
LOL. So which is worse, presuming there is any merit to your allegation? That a “country” doesn’t respect its immediate neighbors or that a “country” doesn’t respect ANYONE, ANYWHERE?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 21 2025 11:52 utc | 390

But nah, Russia doesn’t want to respect a “balance of power” LMFAO. Is that you Anne Applebaum?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 21 2025 11:53 utc | 391