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July 14, 2025
Putin: The West’s Conflict With Russia Is Not About Ideology

In an interview with the Russian TV channel Rossiya President Vladimir Putin gave some insight into Russia's changing perspective of the West.

There is unfortunately no transcript available yet. Various Russian media provid snippets of the talk in English language:

I have yet to find the full interview. But these tweets of Djole include some quotes and subtitled video excerpts:

In an interview with Pavlo Zarubin, a well-known journalist on Russian state television, Putin spoke about deep misunderstandings that, he says, he initially mistakenly attributed to ideological differences. But over time, he points out, it became clear that the background is not ideology, but something else – interest.

"I thought that the contradictions with the West were primarily ideological. It seemed logical at the time – Cold War inertia, different views of the world, values, the organization of society," Putin said.

"But even when the ideology disappeared, when the Soviet Union ceased to exist, the same, almost routine deviation from Russia's interests continued. And it was not because of ideas, but because of the pursuit of advantages – geopolitical, economic, strategic."

"The world respects only those who can protect themselves," he said. "Until we show that we are an independent and sovereign power that stands behind our interests, there will be no room for anyone to treat us as equals."

My very first thought when reading that was 'what took him so long'. During the Cold War I was indoctrinated with the fairy tale of Western freedoms versus the evils of eastern communism. But I for one have never accepted that view. Western animosity against Russia goes back many centuries. (Maybe even further back than the big schism of 1054). The fight against the 'evils of communism' was just a contemporary variance of it.

One might call that ideological but I believe that it always has been and is about greed. There is one side in this conflict which never seems to have enough and therefore aims for Russia's riches. What else explains Napoleon's march to Moscow or the British war in Crimea? (See Karlov1 who writes a bit more about the 'ideological' aspect of this.)

But why did it take Putin and Russia until 2022 to accept the consequences of this insight?

Comments

When you say “until 2022” it sounds like something has changed. What? The smo was a reaction to the imminent invasion of Donbass, which would have ended exactly like Gaza, all destroyed, all dead. The smo did not look prepared, no one spends most of the time retreating and fighting at least two times for every village, while there is no sign of smo in the rest of Ukr if they have a plan. Putin said something like “we haven’t even started yet” which I think is true, this remains a police action, a reaction to Ukr attacks started after the coup, which Russia recognized for some reason. So if Russians don’t care much about smo, I don’t know why so many people overestimate its goals or value. Men in slippers damaged Tel Aviyiyv in three days a lot more than the smo did to Kyiyyiv in three years but smo turned a lot of areas in Bakhmut landscape only in Russia.

Posted by: rk | Jul 14 2025 17:18 utc | 101

Britain, France, and other former empires, still blame the dismantling of their colonial might on Russia, the Russian president continued adding that he could still sense this historical negative attitude toward his country

What a moron.

Posted by: Lengai | Jul 14 2025 17:20 utc | 102

There are a great number of mind readers here today.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 14 2025 17:21 utc | 103

It takes years to plan and coordinate an invasion into Ukraine, to prepare supplies, get the economy ready, get the propaganda message just right and accepted by the people.
2022 is just when the world saw Putin understood the realities of Russia’s relationship with the west.
Putin understood it before 2014.
2014 – Battle for Crimea flawless victory. well planned for a long time.
2015 – intervention in Syria. Long enough to gain another airbase in Syria, and build diplomatic ties with Turkey. The Russians helped significantly for Assad to regain control of Aleppo, and stabilized Syria for as long as possible.
Neither of these two battles point to Putin still thinking it was all ideological.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 14 2025 17:21 utc | 104

Sun Of Alabama | Jul 14 2025 16:47 utc | 89
“Yet, another gold bug myth skewered.”
Sigh…again we have the village idiot, I’m sorry if I’m sounding too critical for some but this son of abidge is still at it, and amazingly still clueless.
His Wayland links are stuck in 1990’s financial system mindset that is old and done. It has no place in the ever-changing, quickly-moving global financial picture we see today.
Again, if you want to see a real finance article look no further then top of the list at King World News. I know, it has a fanciful title of Dump revaluing gold to $20,000 ignore that. Peipenburg talks about CB’s and the BIS’ rebranding gold as Tier 1 asset and the stark truth that Gold is now the neutral reserve currency the world NEEDS right now. and again, DEBT MATTERS because the look the usa is showing the world is a complete LACK OF FAITH. Lack of faith in everything it is and does currently. Because of them. all fiat currencies are losing purchasing power exponentially. The Romans would call that clipping, and they were clipping so furiously that they cut their own fingers to the bone. And then their own throats…

Posted by: bisfab | Jul 14 2025 17:22 utc | 105

I see the comments going round in a big circle: greed, envy, hubris, ideology, capitalism, Putin just waking up, Putin’s hands tied, etc.
The big question really is who or what is the enemy Russia is fighting? Is there a semi-cohesive predatory entity which has behaved more or less consistently over several centuries, or is it all down to the bad side of human nature acting chaotically and seeming uniform?
I think that which created Zionism and gave birth to Israel and is quite OK with the genocide unfolding before our eyes is the root cause. I think it hides behind Judaism and behind victimhood. I think while it is a small group of Jews, it exploits Jews and exposes them to great risk. It is the very few which rule by dividing and making the many fight and kill each other.
Call it “the Rothschilds”, the City of London, Satanists, or whatever. The name itself is not important. Recognising it is.

Posted by: Elial22 | Jul 14 2025 17:26 utc | 106

Trump just stated that the US will ‘sell’ any and all weapons the Ukraine needs paid for by European partners. This on top of a massive tarrif on any nation doing business with Russia. This is what going slow gets you.

Posted by: bored | Jul 14 2025 17:27 utc | 107

Re: Euros paying for US weapons to Kiev ?
Have the Euros agreed to this ?

Posted by: Exile | Jul 14 2025 17:29 utc | 108

@ Posted by: Konami | Jul 14 2025 14:35 utc | 37
I agree with you that from a practical, rational perspective it made sense for Russia to work with the US as far as possible. As you say, it was the rational path from a game-theory viewpoint. Better to cultivate friends than to breed hostility, perhaps. Among other things.
Anyway, it didn’t work despite multiple efforts. After the 9/11 attack against the US, Putin offered to collaborate with George W. Bush on counter-measures because Russia already had extensive experience with Muslim extremists. The response from Bush was like, “We don’t need your help, we’ll do it ourselves”. Totally brushed off the hand held out in friendship. Don’t think that the Russian’s did not recognize that.
As far back as 1999, Putin sought to join NATO (Putin Says He Discussed Russia’s Possible NATO Membership With Bill Clinton, Radio Free Europe, June 03, 2017, https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-putin-says-discussed-joining-nato-with-clinton/28526757.html). And why not: after the dissolution of the USSR and the Warsaw Pact there was no raison d’etre for a NATO aimed against Russia. Not surprisingly, that idea went nowhere.
Russia may have entertained ideas of mutually beneficial connections with the West in the early 2000s, but the eruption of Color Revolutions like the 2004 Orange Revolution in Ukraine and the 2008 Russian-Georgian War put the kibosh on those ideas.
And the recent addition of Russia and China to the “New Axis of Evil” (https://www.voanews.com/a/former-nato-chief-warns-against-axis-of-autocracies-/7447098.html) was probably the last nail in the coffin of Russia-US/NATO Cooperation.
As a message to the world, I see Putin’s comments as a strategic announcement that the masks are off; that there can be no more pretense that this contest is about democracy, human rights, or anything else in the UN Charter. It is all about who controls the World Island, which is the central issue of geopolitical power. And to anyone with access to a world map, it is obvious that Russia+China controls the greatest part of Eurasia, which is the largest island.
Hence the efforts of the US Empire to overturn those states.

Posted by: Clever Dog | Jul 14 2025 17:29 utc | 109

This is what going slow gets you.
Posted by: bored | Jul 14 2025 17:27 utc | 106

A bankrupt US and associated Western financial crisis? Oh that’s not what you meant? Haha.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jul 14 2025 17:31 utc | 110

“ How knowledgeable can Putin be in Marxism?”
Posted by: Northern Eve | Jul 14 2025 15:14
A former colonel in the KGB, who had a degree in Soviet law.
I think he would have to know the basics at least, no?
He was accused of embezzlement in the 1990’s when working for Sobchak, mayor of Petersburg. Something to do with a large amount of meat from maybe Germany and the paper trail just stopped with him accepting the custody of the meat. Maybe 10 million dollars worth – regardless of whether he ate it or sold it, he understands the nature of private property, I think it was a barter deal – raw materials for meat, Looked dodgy but as a lawyer he had his defence and I don’t there was a prosecution.

Posted by: will moon | Jul 14 2025 17:32 utc | 111

Trump just stated that the US will ‘sell’ any and all weapons the Ukraine needs paid for by European partners. This on top of a massive tarrif on any nation doing business with Russia. This is what going slow gets you.
Posted by: bored | Jul 14 2025 17:27 utc | 106
No he didnt.
Trump announced a big nothing burger. 100% tarriffs on countries trading with Russia… IN 50 DAYS, IF Russia doesn’t start negotiating… And he would still have to actually implement them…
and sales of arms to European countries so they can give theirs to Ukraine.
Big nothing burger, as are almost all of his “big announcements” he teases out a week in advance.
US will ‘sell’ any and all weapons
There will be no f-35s flying over Ukraine, you can put the tissue and lotion away.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 14 2025 17:33 utc | 112

why did it take Putin and Russia until 2022 …
even tho nato’s war against Russia started in 2022, Putin is saying this now, so i look towards the recent commitments made by 32 nato members agreeing to spend 5% of GDP on defense/security (by 2035) and how extraordinary that is, at this time in the war, when Russia is clearly winning and europe has already taken huge financial hits, as possibly the tipping point for Putin’s epiphany.

Posted by: annie | Jul 14 2025 17:37 utc | 113

(Trump): ‘If we don’t have a deal in 50 days, we’re going to have to impose “secondary tariffs.” They’re pretty tough, and we don’t want to do that. But we’ll see what happens. We thought we had a deal a few times. I’d come home and tell the first lady, “I had a great conversation with Vladimir, I think we got it all worked out.” And then I’d turn on the TV, or she’d say to me one day, “Well, that’s weird, because they just bombed a nursing home.” I’d be like, “What?”…

what is this imbecile little american nazi smoking? what “deal” is he talking about? the one he made with that p0rnstar, or the ones on epsteins island?
whatever, 50 days until he/she/it kicks the can down the road again?

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 14 2025 17:38 utc | 114

So this was Trump’s long awaited Monday announcement.
“Trump to impose devastating 100% secondary tariffs on Russia within 50 days
Countries like China and India will have to pay 100% tariffs to the US if they buy Russian oil or gas.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 14 2025 17:39 utc | 115

…what took him so long…I for one have never accepted that view. Western animosity against Russia goes back many centuries…it always has been about greed..aims for Russia’s riches. What else explains Napoleon’s march to Moscow or the British war in Crimea
Well, unlike all the commentators here who constantly, [and I mean constantly], remind normal people of how superior their intellect is, I too was fooled into thinking that the US position was based on a perceived ideological threat…
I enjoy reading history, I knew that Europe’s desire to dismember Russia was based on insatiable imperial greed but honestly, those effing empires were, post WWII, particularly the English one, but also the French/Dutch/Portuguese a bunch of sniveling twits unwilling, and in any case, incapable of taking care of their own empires, much less Russia’s. And let me be clear, in case the English-Observer peruses my pedantic ponderings, I am talking about the upper-most-classes whose, ever upward, flailing falls were so accurately documented in Monty-Python sketches five decades ago.
FDR and by measure FDRists did not exhibit the rabid hatred openly displayed by the Nazi/Nazists of Europe towards Russia/Russians. One has only to watch film of Khrushchev’s visit to the US, the crowd is not hostile even though the media’s “RED-SCARE” was at full volume. When Nixon said, “Trust but Verify” Americans accepted that, we had to deal with Russia. Nor when Gorbachev visited…people cheered his strolls into the crowd, he had faith in the American people and they loved him for it.
But…the denizens of the US-DoS, groomed by the Anglophilic/Francophilic preachings of ivy-school Profs had already successfully grafted Europe’s most undesirable traits onto the American tree. Most notable of those Profs was the reprehensible Woodrow Wilson who, cleansed Princeton of any Prof who dared to defy his doctrinal hatred of those he deemed to be inferior beings. And anyone who reads Kennan’s foul musings soon learns that the US Dept of State was an endless reservoir of such swamp creatures. Consider for example, the Dulles-bros who were Woodrow-Wilson acolytes, yes those polluted waters run deep. But that river is short, before Woodrow Wilson became Hitler’s muse, before the Eugenicist in Chief imposed Jim-Crow in DC, the US relationship with Russia was quite good.
So, you can imagine my surprise as a young man when I watched the DLC push out FDRist in the Democratic party using internecine lawfare against the remaining FDRist in the party and openly embracing Wilsonian racist/class-warfare. Most emblematic of these foul ivy-school creatures is that hideous medusa Hillary, she and other quadrupedal beasts were determined to institutionalize Europe’s despicable history of Empire in America and in the elitist enclaves of America, Hillary is venerated.
But…embracing Europe’s past empires and their millennial long hatred of Russia/Russians is still not widely accepted among Americans who have not been tutored to accept the Ivy-School’s institutionalized hatred of any rudimentary social justice. So there is hope.
Coming back to “what took him so long?” I think that Putin did not run into the Wilsonian cabal when he was stationed in Germany, he wouldn’t know of the dichotomy between those who govern and the governed. In all likelyhood, Putin met with Military attaches and like, dedicated Americans not schooled in western Europe’s endless hatreds wars and greed and got to like them because they seemed like good people because…wait for it…they were.
But…at a certain point the hopes and dreams of youth must left behind and Putin has taken way too long, particularly in ex-ukrainia. While Russia’s cheerleaders have waved their pom-poms in appreciation of Russia’s go-slow approach I have counseled otherwise. The diabolical nature of MI-6/US-3LAs/Mossad et al have used the time to start new fires along Russia’s periphery, expanding the war with no regard to the cost upon US/Europe’s working class…they are after all, either elitist or, sociopaths..but, I repeat myself. Putin must harden his heart and make short, decisive work of ex-ukrainia, he must retake the BSC to Transnistia and and sufficiently wide DMZ. Had Putin expended the resources earlier, an opportunity to negotiate an end of the “west’s” War Against Russia [WAR] would have been presented to Trump as “Fait accompli” upon office but, not now it’s too late.
“Who cares” says Dumbass, well, now Putin has three wars to quell instead of one and Recep Tayyip Erdoğan sees an opportunity for the return of the Ottoman Empire which has given Englishmen in posh clubs much joy…tally ho they cry.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 14 2025 17:41 utc | 116

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 14 2025 17:38 utc | 113
And also, what nursing home is the First Lady lying about?
Ok, now we know who has been fooling Trump all this time.
Unless she was talking about Gaza, but I doubt it.

Posted by: hopehely | Jul 14 2025 17:46 utc | 117

To repeat:
The Ukrainian Civil War is a mere sideshow to the global struggle.

Posted by: Exile | Jul 14 2025 17:46 utc | 118

rk #100 no one spends most of the time retreating and fighting at least two times for every village, while there is no sign of smo in the rest of Ukr if they have a plan.
not true! if one of your stated goals is the demilitarization/denazification of Ukraine why fight front lines further away from Russia when you can stay in the region where most of the ethnic Russian population lives and let the enemy come to you? It makes perfect sense to me.

Posted by: annie | Jul 14 2025 17:46 utc | 119

Here’s a video of Trump promising weapons support for Ukraine dated July 14, 2025.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK5uDS-0jDc
“Because Putin really surprised a lot of people. He talks nice and then he bombs everybody in the evening. So there’s a little bit of a problem there. I don’t like it.
Well, I’m going to have a meeting with the [NATO] secretary general who’s coming in tomorrow, but we basically are going to send them various pieces of very sophisticated military—They’re going to pay us 100% for them. And that’s the way we want it. And we’ve been trying to get that and get—I don’t think Biden ever asked for it. We’re in for about 350 billion. Europe is in for a hundred billion. That’s a lot of money, 100. But they should be in, actually, for more than us. So, as we send equipment, they’re going to reimburse us for that equipment. Doesn’t that sound good? That’s the way it should have been a long time ago.”
Here’s a longer video that directly mentions Patriot missiles about 12 seconds into the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xNxz3Nh408
“We will send them Patriots which they desperately need because Putin really surprised a lot of people.”

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Jul 14 2025 17:47 utc | 120

Elial22 | Jul 14 2025 17:26 utc | 105
“Call it “the Rothschilds”, the City of London, Satanists, or whatever. The name itself is not important. Recognising it is.”
It has always been about them, for millennia. That day when Jesus sat in the temple and seethed while watching the money-changers do their thing, his actions that day angered Herod and we all read about in Matthew. ((These)) people have changed the course of humanity in every way today. Those that are not awake or still stick their heads in the sand HAVE to understand before it’s too late for us.

Posted by: bisfab | Jul 14 2025 17:47 utc | 121

“Western animosity against Russia goes back many centuries. (Maybe even further back than the big schism of 1054). ”
Writes b.
I have expounded a while back about he real date of the schism – which was only later formalised by the ziofascist ‘western’ JudaeoChristian Holy Roman Empire.
‘Khazaria retained a worthy degree of sovereignty until the khaganate’s destruction by the Kievan Rus’ in the year 965 …The mighty Khazars were defeated on the battlefield by Svyatoslav of the Rus’. Although the Khazars were famed for their performance on land, a combination of a lack of naval power, lack of natural geographical defenses, and lack of self-dependency on resources countered what the Khazars could benefit from.
They never recovered from this defeat…Georgius Tzul, allegedly a Christian and the last Khazaraian khagan, collapsed along with his khaganate to the knees of a combined Byzantine and Rus’ian force in January 1016. ’
Having been expelled they went to western and Northern Europe with their wealth to counter ‘lack of naval power, lack of natural geographical defenses, and lack of self-dependency on resources ’
Thus began William the Conquerer, the Crusades, and over the next centuries the Westphalian nations and national banking structures. That led to the Anglo European imperialism ending with the thousands of bases around The World Island now as well as endless proxy wars to retake their Khazarian Empire – currently attempting genocide from the Ukraine to the Levant … The Never Ndong story and why the Collective Waste will drive itself over the abyss for the Old Bastard Robber Barons and Slavers.
It finally ends a millenia later.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 14 2025 17:49 utc | 122

Further to #105, Elial22
“ One possible reason why Vladimir Putin might believe in the
commonality of U.S. and Russian interest is because he understood that
the enemy that has had Russia in its crosshairs for over two centuries now,
is the same system, or structure of power that has taken the American
people and their government captive, squandering America’s wealth and
destroying her prosperity in their drive to build a global empire. This
enemy is the global financial oligarchy that has been able to impose
control over most nations of the world …”
From Alex Krainer, The Killing of Bill Browder.

Posted by: Elial22 | Jul 14 2025 17:51 utc | 123

Elial22 | Jul 14 2025 17:26 utc | 105
Posted by: bisfab | Jul 14 2025 17:47 utc | 120
Nazism and Zionism are different branches of fascism, and both are manifestations of the far-right ideology that has killed millions and led to genocides.

Posted by: Northern Eve | Jul 14 2025 17:55 utc | 124

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 14 2025 16:36 utc | 82
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoqB2lQ0qyQ&ab_channel=JudgeNapolitano-JudgingFreedom
The Judge with Alastair Crooke. Thanks for finding it. Yes, a failed attempt at a quick kill of Iran. As Crooke says, we “misread the ground”.
Parallels in so many respects what we’d hoped for in Ukraine. A quick kill of the RF.
So many other parallels. The “We” is much the same. The methods – “dirty war” – much the same. Working mostly through proxies. And, fatally, (for us) we “misread the ground.”
And now Trump’s doubling down, both cases. Well, Andrei Martyanov was saying this is the effective end of the Trump presidency. Crooke confirms. As far as any useful change in Western foreign policy goes, that is. Big fail for Trump? Or big fail for those of us who thought he might do better.

Posted by: English Outsider | Jul 14 2025 18:04 utc | 125

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 14 2025 17:38 utc | 113
This may give you some insight into the way Trump thinks……BTW the internet has many fascinating videos like this. Dig back 6-7 years for the real gold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEseiA72yVM

Posted by: CeaClearly | Jul 14 2025 18:09 utc | 126

There’s not much point putting too much effort discussing anything in the comments section of the bar anymore because a vast majority of the barflies are so unmoored from reality.
You can show them a video of Trump promising weapons support for Ukraine, and they will claim that’s AI-generated fake news, or that it’s taken out of context. You can back it up with the proper context and multiple corroborating sources, and they will say that Trump is actually playacting here, and his words shouldn’t be taken literally. They will say it’s kayfabe (a new substitute term for “4D chess” being pushed by die-hard Trump cultists on MoA) and that he’s cunningly working towards fulfilling his secret goals in an oblique manner. These secret goals aren’t anything concrete, they’re a placeholder for anything the Trump cultists desire because Trump is their wish fulfillment avatar.
Trump could assassinate Putin tomorrow, admit to it on live television and in front of an audience, and the Trump cultists’ faith in their lord and savior will not waver a bit. They will claim that Putin and Trump secretly met and agreed that Trump is the most fitting torchbearer for safeguarding Western Civilization™, and the sacrifice of Putin’s life is necessary for cementing Trump’s place as the messiah because Putin has garnered too much negative sentiment from the West to become a messiah himself. Yes, I’m well aware that what I just wrote was completely cuckoo, but that’s the level of delusion you can find amongst the average Trump’s Deranged Supporters (TDS) on MoA.
Some will try to cover for Trump by claiming that focusing on Trump is actually taking away focus from America. That seems like a valid point at first glance. But, I wonder why no one on MoA argued that criticizing Biden is actually a diversionary tactic meant to deflect the culpability of the US in instigating conflicts?
Everyone knows that Biden is the face of the US during his reign, and lambasting Biden is lambasting the US. Criticism against Biden was directed directly towards Biden and not the US, and it was equally, if not more, vicious than the criticism directed against Trump.
Everyone is well aware that the US is the culprit behind the proxy wars around the globe, and Trump right now is the face of the US.
Death to America
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Jul 14 2025 18:11 utc | 127

It’s like fire, it consumes to live, without consumption it dies.
Ukraine is currently a backfire to fight the fire.
You could also say that US society is a pyramid game whose willingness to take risks is constantly being increased by the newcomers in order to maintain a residual chance of success.
Russia is interchangeable. Every sovereign country is interesting, because their capital has not yet flowed out.
The USA’s problems are systemic and would continue to grow even after the subjugation of China and Russia.
Strategically, a reorientation of society, a new focus on the future, is a good idea. The fact that this is not happening proves that the fate of the USA is in the hands of an elite (deep state) that has been networked for generations and whose horizons extend as far as the gates of the gated community in which they live. The goal is not participation in society through achievement, but the preservation of sinecures. Your politicians are keeping you stupid and the banks poor.
The USA was the first to develop the atomic bomb and since then has explicitly tailored its behaviour to this superiority. This has led to intellectual poverty, armed stupidity.

Posted by: BlindSpot | Jul 14 2025 18:12 utc | 128

The premise of the post and Putin’s assertion is odd. No ideology involved?
So is it a coincidence that all of Russia’s allies in Latin America are leftist governments? Is it not the case that the USSR was perceived to be the penultimate enemy of the west precisely because of the material and ideological tools it proveded for the anti-colonial movement?
Is it again a coincidence that the peculiar proliferation of Russian names among Latin Americans had to do with the Soviet era and the anti-colonial paradigm it offered?
Geopolitical interests really involves those of the ruling capitalist elites of the western world, especially the Anglosphere. And those interests were threatened specifically by the Soviets. Whatever hostility might have been against the Russian empire pales before the animosity exhibited against the USSR. In short, no Russian emperor ever constituted an almost existential threat against the western elites.
This is easily understood if one takes into account the intense hostility that is now directed against China. Had the latter been a neoliberal basket case (almost by default then, a satrapy for the western overlords), it wouldn’t be treated as an enemy. It is precisely the political nature of the Chinese government that makes the country an adversary of the imperialists.

Posted by: Constantine | Jul 14 2025 18:15 utc | 129

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 14 2025 17:38 utc | 113
The other idiot Rutte did use something more strong saying ‘If I were Putin, hearing this (Trump) words I will run to negotiation table’
I think that Putin is pissing in his pants for too much laughing.

Posted by: Mario | Jul 14 2025 18:16 utc | 130

[Putin]”A former colonel in the KGB, who had a degree in Soviet law.
I think he would have to know the basics at least, no?
He was accused of embezzlement in the 1990’s when working for Sobchak, mayor of Petersburg. Something to do with a large amount of meat from maybe Germany and the paper trail just stopped with him accepting the custody of the meat. Maybe 10 million dollars worth – regardless of whether he ate it or sold it, he understands the nature of private property, I think it was a barter deal – raw materials for meat, Looked dodgy but as a lawyer he had his defence and I don’t there was a prosecution.
Posted by: will moon | Jul 14 2025 17:32 utc | 110″
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What evidence do you have to support your claim? I have read that he was an incorruptible official because of his law degree. I also remember how, when others tried to get Russia to intervene in Ukraine where ethnic Russians were being killed by the thousands, Putin always refered to the Minsk agreements.

Posted by: Northern Eve | Jul 14 2025 18:22 utc | 131

I think that it comes down to the mentality of:
“You have something and we want it.”
Someone makes a good point that perhaps he could not bring himself to realize how much the west has changed.
Because living in the west, I am having a very hard time to come to grips with it (change) myself.
I dont know if it is euphoria or panic or the absence of morality.
The US is now supporting recreational drug use.

Posted by: jared | Jul 14 2025 18:23 utc | 132

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 14 2025 14:04 utc | 24
Utter nonsense. Did the Jews unite the west againt the USSR, an effort that culminated in the cataclysmic war of extermination unleashed by Hitler?
Zionism is so prevalent precisely because it is much more than Jewsih supremacism: it is the acceptable form of western supremacism. The latter is very much in vogue, but requires the appropriate sugar-coating. The past tribulations of the Jewish communities have been weaponized and “the right of Israel to defend itself” is in effect the privilege of the collective west to act with criminal impunity. Hence the hideous statement by Merz, the neo-Hitlerite Chancellor of Germany.
And that is the only logical explanation for the ideological conformity imposed by the neoliberals in the west and its vassals, rather than the fictional magical powers of the very same Jews who were one of the “excuses” to inflict a genocidal war against the peoples of the USSR by the overtly fascist predecessors of NATO.

Posted by: Constantine | Jul 14 2025 18:23 utc | 133

@ karlof1 | Jul 14 2025 15:41 utc | 60
thanks karl… i have to compliment again you on doing all the work you’re doing!
@ dh-mtl | Jul 14 2025 16:48 utc | 90
great comment as per usual from you.. thanks.. i agree with your overview..
@ Elial22 | Jul 14 2025 17:26 utc | 105
this is a critical question – who is russia fighting here?? your answer makes sense, but i wonder how much of this is layered due the role this 5th column is also playing inside russia?? i don’t know the answer, but i suspect it is an important theme that is ongoing here..

Posted by: james | Jul 14 2025 18:26 utc | 134

Posted by: Mario | Jul 14 2025 18:16 utc | 129
> The other idiot Rutte did use something more strong saying ‘If I were Putin, hearing this (Trump) words I will run to negotiation table’
> I think that Putin is pissing in his pants for too much laughing.
The funny thing is that Putin always said he was open to negotiations.
But it seems there is a disagreement about what the word ‘negotiation’ means.
And I guess they need to agree on that first.
The same goes for the word ‘deal’.
Trump uses that word all the time but it seems his notion of a deal is pretty incompatible with the notion that Putin has.

Posted by: hopehely | Jul 14 2025 18:29 utc | 135

And the year 1054 has its origins in the year 395 …

Posted by: Humml | Jul 14 2025 18:32 utc | 136

I think you are misinterpreting Putin’s position. He was trying to emphasize that the West kept being aggressive again the Soviet Union/Russia despite the ideological change. He wasn’t trying to say that ideology doesn’t matter.
Ideology is definitely a major factor. It has always been so in Europe since the crusades at least. And during the unipolar moment, as Mearshimer explains, the West became rabidly ideological and that explains it’s excessively irrational foreign policy and irrational hatred and contempt of Russia. Mearshimer (and the late Stephen F Cohen) even add to the ideological conflict the recent ultra liberalism in the West leading to excessive anti-Russia hysteria.

Posted by: Sal | Jul 14 2025 18:32 utc | 137

1) In the early middle ages they (Germanic elites in Western Europe) were hunting for Slavic people, they castrated them and sold them to the Muslims in Spain. 2) Because the German tribes moved to western Europe a lot of land in current Germany became deserted were Slavic people created cities. At a later stage during the creation of Holy Roman Empire, they exterminated all inhabitants of these cities people and moved other people in. So could on speak about an underlying ethnic reason, meaning that the one tribe consider the other one as sub-human. Something that is imbedded in the western elites genes. This must certainly have been the case at least 2000 years ago, but is likely also one of the reasons for all major wars with Russia in the 2nd millennium. We like to believe that all actions of a certain country must be based on some rationality, how strange the rationality might be sometimes. But in my opinion just like the motives from a individual person are to a large part driven by his subconsciousness, a collection of people also has a subconsciousness.

Posted by: hubert | Jul 14 2025 18:34 utc | 138

The aim of the Russian state is to promote the wellbeing of all, not just the wellbeing of a tiny elite as in Neoliberal dominated nations.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 14 2025 17:00 utc | 93
Absolutely agree.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Jul 14 2025 18:36 utc | 139

Posted by: bisfab | Jul 14 2025 17:47 utc | 120
Best post I have read today-thanks!

Posted by: canuk | Jul 14 2025 18:38 utc | 140

Noam A. Larkey | Jul 14 2025 15:28 utc | 55
*** Russia is not going to outgrow the situation it was in, namely that it produces almost nothing the rest of the world wants or needs ***
So? There’s nothing wrong with self sufficiency. Why should everywhere be frantically trying to export, for the benefit of fatcat middlemen and financial institutions while ruining the country’s environment and quality of life in the process?
What is supposedly so good about Neoliberal cultism and its fake “free-market” that it nowadays amounts to herresy to note that it’s basically a load of spiv-spouted shit coated in vapourware and underpinned by mafia casino-banking?
*** … it can only make money by selling off its own natural resources, and whoever controls those controls the country.***
“Money” … foreign money, that is … for what?

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 14 2025 18:41 utc | 141

The Global American Empire (GAE) wants to destroy Russia not because it’s communist but because it ISN’T anymore.
Posted by: Jim Jatras | Jul 14 2025 15:42 utc | 61
Every leftist government is targeted by the globalist Anglo-American empire, from Laqtin America to China, NK, Belarus and Russia after the latter began to reject some aspects of neoliberalism, but this western conservative thinks that the western imperialists are cool with communism.
For some people their delusions form a solid cement trap for their intellect.

Posted by: Constantine | Jul 14 2025 18:42 utc | 142

Posted by: Northern Eve | Jul 14 2025 18:22 utc | 130
Deepseek says
Putin’s People (Catherine Belton, 2020)
The Man Without a Face (Masha Gessen, 2012)
But
Are They “MSM Puppets”?
Arguments That They Might Be
Western Affiliation: Both write for major Western outlets (Financial Times, The New Yorker), which some view as aligned with Western geopolitical interests.
Anti-Putin Bias: Their work aligns with Western narratives about Putin’s corruption/authoritarianism.
Funding/Backing: Some critics allege Western intelligence ties (no concrete proof).

Posted by: Cable Guy | Jul 14 2025 18:42 utc | 143

The idea that Vlad Putin didn’t know – or is just waking up to – the fact that the world operates largely geopolitically is so absurd it’s hard to know where to begin.
Do you think that they sit around at the KGB (or the CIA or whatever ‘intel’-military thingy you want to name the world over) and talk about this ‘ism’ versus that ‘ism’ and ponder how the various ideologies make the world go round?
They are in the business of constant surveillance of other ‘states’ and geographic areas and peoples and what have you in order to control them in their own interests.
They are only interested in cultures and ‘ideologies’ in order that they may control them in the interest of a few at the top.
‘Do you think that they sit around…and talk about this ‘ism’ versus that ‘ism’ and ponder how the various ideologies make the world go round?’
Yes, they do. But not for the reasons we hoi polloi are led to believe by their respective propagandas.

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jul 14 2025 18:42 utc | 144

“… Something that is imbedded in the western elites genes. …”
hubert | Jul 14 2025 18:34 utc | 137
This is not specifically limited to “western elites genes”. This was also the case with the Egyptians 2000 years before Cr, as well as in ancient Central and South America.
Rather, it seems to be a general characteristic of humanity, or it is linked to the form of the respective religious beliefs

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 14 2025 18:47 utc | 145

Do you think that they sit around…and talk about this ‘ism’ versus that ‘ism’ and ponder how the various ideologies make the world go round?’
Yes, they do. But not for the reasons we hoi polloi are led to believe by their respective propagandas.
Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jul 14 2025 18:42 utc | 143
They talk about the “isms” to explore new ways of mass manipulation of peoples trapped in their “isms”.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Jul 14 2025 18:50 utc | 146

Brian Berletic calls it “US Primacy”
To me that seems to be the real motivation.
Greed , etc., are all fringe benefits once one achieves primacy.

Posted by: arby | Jul 14 2025 18:51 utc | 147

Far too simplistic a model of Putin and the Russian leadership.
Greed for something that is not in one’s reach is not exclusive to the West – the post-Soviet collapse oligarchs exhibited precisely the same behavior.
The part which puzzles Putin and the Russian leadership is not this covetous desire; it is the lack of capability combined with continuous, ineffective and incompetent attempts to fulfill said desire.
That is the real problem.
Sane, realistic people who understand what is possible vs. what is not.
Dumbfuck Western leaders don’t understand either – and act accordingly.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 14 2025 18:51 utc | 148

Johan Kaspar | Jul 14 2025 14:43 utc
Johan, perhaps there is a fundamental difference in our views of what constitutes greed and its extreme progression.
The infected “WEST” unabashedly pursues total dominance of our world and all its resources and demonstrates itself – or at least those who have the most control of it – to be incapable of seeing beyond its internalized belief (at least by those who hold the most power within what has manifested) that “it will be so”. Dominance, Rulership, Top Exploiter – by any means, to include indiscriminate slaughter of any and even all…
Beyond this failure to nurture and develop Humanity in a direction of growth beyond self (and I believe it is a failure and an aberration/distortion or cancer) I see the very idea of greed being one that ultimately excludes others; and ultimate greed is a belief in entitlement to the point of exclusion of all others.
It was said: “If it was greed, they wouldn’t antagonize Russia [or China or others], since they’d be richer doing business with Russia”…
Well,
“Doing business with Russia”, or any other, is only possible (in today’s manifesting “Western” world view) with a view to eliminating the idea of business being an exchange with mutual benefit (rather, winner takes all; full spectrum dominance); always pursuing advantage to the point of taking it all… Want perverted to the level of Personal Need and essentially denial of any relationship with Humanity.
This perception, seems to me, to be a valid definition of a manifestation of inhuman evil, but that, I admit, is a personal judgement.
That is what I see… Your vision seems different.
Now, how one (or V.V.Putin) counteracts the presence of such a perceived reality from any but a personal view point, which inevitably is a function of one’s experiences, insight, and dawning identity beyond self, I don’t know. I do think that there is more spirit of Humanity in some Leaders such as V.V. Putin than those who “Front” for the titular “West” and I think V.V. Putin is much more than a “Front” for “the opposition”.

Posted by: DoesItReallyMatter | Jul 14 2025 18:52 utc | 149

I will add to the above: it is not just that the aforementioned attempts are failing – it is that these attempts are literally destroying the prosperity and power of these nations.
It is difficult for sane, capable people to believe that the West is led by such morons.
Surely there is someone, somewhere in power in the West that will lead the West back to reason?
Sadly, there has not been for decades.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 14 2025 18:53 utc | 150

Posted by: Constantine | Jul 14 2025 18:42 utc | 141
It only seems confusing if one is stuck in a materialist Left/Right dichotomy. The neoliberal Global American Empire (GAE) is not “imperalist” in the classic, 19th century sense, any more than was the Marxist-Leninist “empire” of the Soviet Union. Both were/are anti-national, anti-traditional, and materialist, as opposed to the 19th century empires that (for better or worse) exalted their nations and sought domination over others they considered inferior. Whether red or rainbow, the empires spawned in the 20th century (the red is gone but the rainbow is still trying to maintain the dominance it seized in the 1990s) both aim/ed at bringing down traditional societies based on nationality, religion, and family. It’s because Russia reemerged under Putin as the latter, it must be destroyed, not because it’s “socialist” — which it isn’t.

Posted by: Jim Jatras | Jul 14 2025 18:57 utc | 151

Posted by: Elial22 | Jul 14 2025 17:26 utc | 105
> I think that which created Zionism and gave birth to Israel and is quite OK with the genocide unfolding before our eyes is the root cause.
> Call it “the Rothschilds”, the City of London, Satanists, or whatever. The name itself is not important. Recognising it is.
Zionism is a Jewish national movement conceived in XIX century by Theodore Herzl, an Austro-Hungarian Jew.
You can think of Zionism as a European-style nationalism transplanted to the Middle East.
The powers behind Zionism are the same powers that were behind every national movement in Europe in the last 100 years.
The most remarkable thing about Zionism is how unremarkable it is from a European point of view. Same ideology, same brutality.

Posted by: hopehely | Jul 14 2025 18:57 utc | 152

Therefore: it is not the normal greed (for money or wealth), but for power, violence over others, to which everyone must submit.
And this greed also accepts that it makes no sense (financially speaking) if it increases power/domination

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 14 2025 19:01 utc | 153

rk@100 17:18
Aberrant spelling can be very droll lol

Posted by: will moon | Jul 14 2025 19:02 utc | 154

@ c1ue | Jul 14 2025 18:51 utc | 147 // 149
great comments to which i agree c1ue.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Jul 14 2025 19:02 utc | 155

This an interesting post:
not much point putting too much effort…the barflies are so unmoored from reality…show them a video of Trump promising weapons support..they claim fake news, or it’s taken out of context. You can back it up with the proper context and multiple corroborating sources” AUH 126
The bold is there to make the point that AUH made no real effort and did not back it with links/examples just vague ad hominems a perfect example projection, being that which he openly disdains.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 14 2025 19:04 utc | 156

Elial22 | Jul 14 2025 15:32 utc | 56
***… the number of trans-national Jews involved, the connection to Israel and also Mossad in the rape of Russia is unmistakable. If one does not see the hidden hand of the “Rotheschilds” one has to be blind.***
Yeltsin appointee Putin’s favouritest people….
Not at all a high proportion of the Russian population, yet a notably high proportion of the Oligarchy. Just coincidence, of course.
Even though in the case of at least a couple of million genocidalists, their loyalty is certainly not to Russia; yet Russia mustn’t do or say anything that might annoy them — why?

Posted by: Cynic | Jul 14 2025 19:04 utc | 157

TACO strikes again! No new sanctions, just more “tawk.”
What an empty, bloated freak of nature!

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jul 14 2025 19:08 utc | 158

a new, interesting assessment in German-language media, which I have translated into English:
“The USA is selling the Europeans weapons, which they can then send to Ukraine. The costs of the Ukraine adventure are now 100 percent borne by the Europeans, while the USA earns billions from the Europeans’ arms orders.
Furthermore, the USA clearly told the Europeans at the NATO summit that a military commitment by the Europeans in Ukraine, i.e. the deployment of European troops to Ukraine as part of the “coalition of the willing”, would not fall under the protection of Article 5 of the NATO treaty. The USA has thus not only denied the Europeans the security guarantees they demanded for a possible conflict with Russia, but has even de facto withdrawn NATO’s protection from them should they come into conflict with Russia in the course of their involvement in Ukraine.
The US has thus pulled out of the Ukraine adventure and dumped all the costs and risks on the Europeans.”

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 14 2025 19:12 utc | 159

It might have been about ideology in the twentieth century, but today – and for most of Russia’s history – it is about Russia’s vast resources and trade access.
Russia’s Founding Father was a Viking chieftain, Rurik, who seized control of the strategic city Veliky Novgorod in 862 and established the Russian monarchy. Why? So that Rurik and his tribe – the Varangians – could control and tax the Volga trade corridor that connected Scandinavia to Imperial Byzantium.
Controlling Russia means controlling the fastest routes connecting the Baltic Sea and, thence, the Atlantic Ocean to the Black Sea and, thence, the Mediterranean Sea. Controlling Russia means controlling direct, overland access between Europe and Asia that is relatively easy to traverse. The Mongols knew it, the Poles, the Ottomans, the Swedes, the French, the British, and the Germans all knew it. The Americans know it today. The Russians have always known it to be so.
The simple fact of the matter is that when you have something that is worth possessing, someone is going to come along to try and take it from you. That’s Russia’s history in a nutshell; fighting tooth-and-nail to keep what is theirs – material and ideological – from everyone else.

Posted by: Monos | Jul 14 2025 19:15 utc | 160

> he was an incorruptible official because of his law degree.
LOL. I think you meant to write “despite”.

Posted by: I forgot | Jul 14 2025 19:18 utc | 161

Posted by: Clever Dog | Jul 14 2025 17:29 utc | 108
Russia may have entertained ideas of mutually beneficial connections with the West in the early 2000s, but the eruption of Color Revolutions like the 2004 Orange Revolution in Ukraine and the 2008 Russian-Georgian War put the kibosh on those ideas.

Yes. At some point they set up academic research on color revolutions. This follows almost cliché Russian procedure: negative surprises will happen (e.g. terrorism, color revolutions; the border is just too long to defend 100%); leadership and country will then retract, learn, adapt and react.
We don’t have to take anyone’s words on this: it’s empirically obvious from two facts:
1. The Russian economy survived the 2022 “sanctions from hell”. As I read it, the sanctions’ results were not clear in advance, and some Russian observers were positively surprised how well their economy held up. On the flipside, we know that the West bet the farm on the success of the sanctions. The war on the ground is only a tool to keep up the Russophobia, and of course the Western elites don’t care about Ukrainian casualties and like Russian casualties. The latter isn’t really about unhinged “dead Russkis!!1!” drooling, except for some clowns they shown on TV; in the actual HQs, they’ll look at this from an abstract, utilitarian point of view: too many casualties in the Russian army may change the Kremlin’s domestic equation.
2. Hearts and minds in Russia, China, India etc. And the above only worked because Russia did their homework, and not just the obvious one in economy and military. No, they got the majority of Russians to follow the Kremlin’s narrative (I would love to read articles about how that happenend) and their foreign policy was up to snatch: China, India and many others were adamant in not giving in to Western sanction demands. Today’s Trump ultimatum is a consequence of this failure of Western power.

As a message to the world, I see Putin’s comments as a strategic announcement that the masks are off; that there can be no more pretense that this contest is about democracy, human rights, or anything else in the UN Charter.

I agree this is inwards communication, to fellow Russians and BRICS.

Posted by: Konami | Jul 14 2025 19:20 utc | 162

Thanks to b for again linking to karlof1’s essay – two lovely photos of Lavrov’s meeting with Wang Yi in gorgeous natural surroundings. (I hope karlof1 will have time, as perhaps most won’t be interested in doing,) to scan the following link.
Quite accidentally this morning I read this article by a favorite scholar of mine, the late Fr. Georges Florovsky (a mentor of our little home church’s Russian priest) dealing with the understanding of St. Caspian on the issue of one universal Church, one of the issues dividing Eastern and Western Christianity in the Great Schism b mentions early in his post.
Understandably, Wikipedia doesn’t quite get it right.
https://fatherstephen.wordpress.com/florovskys-limits-of-the-church/
[Thanks to Father Stephen Freeeman for maintaining this very searchable website.]

Posted by: juliania | Jul 14 2025 19:24 utc | 163

Sorry I added an extra ‘e’ in ‘Freeman.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 14 2025 19:27 utc | 164

Posted by: Stevenj | Jul 14 2025 13:19 utc | 12
“Ok, Russia but if you form an alternative to the dollar, what are we supposed to do with what will be worthless paper?”
Stuff it up the collective ‘ass’ of the ‘deep state’ – otherwise, they will do it to you.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jul 14 2025 19:29 utc | 165

Northern Eve | Jul 14 2025 18:22 utc | 130
“ Amid the Soviet collapse and its aftermath, St. Petersburg faced severe food shortages, prompting city hall to seek various arrangements to fill the gap. These included scandalous barter deals made by the city’s External Relations Committee, which Putin headed, in which fly-by-night firms pocketed millions of dollars despite the fact that no food shipments were delivered in exchange.”
Eurasia Review
https://www.eurasiareview.com/20052022-putins-men-the-israeli-smugglers-and-the-great-st-petersburg-drug-bust-analysis/
I followed the Yeltsin years in the media. The allegations were not very important because Putin was a “nobody” back then but I remember the incident being reported at the time

Posted by: will moon | Jul 14 2025 19:32 utc | 166

@ smartfox | Jul 14 2025 19:12 utc | 158
thanks for the translation of the gist of the article.. i wonder how true it is regarding usa and article 5? is there anything by either the usa state department or some official that acknowledges this?? would be good to see.. it could be acknowledged by someone in europe in an official status as well.. that would work too.. until i see that, it is hard to vouch for the articles contents..

Posted by: james | Jul 14 2025 19:41 utc | 167

The diabolical nature of MI-6/US-3LAs/Mossad et al have used the time to start new fires along Russia’s periphery, expanding the war with no regard to the cost upon US/Europe’s working class…they are after all, either elitist or, sociopaths..but, I repeat myself. Putin must harden his heart and make short, decisive work of ex-ukrainia, he must retake the BSC to Transnistia and and sufficiently wide DMZ. Had Putin expended the resources earlier, an opportunity to negotiate an end of the “west’s” War Against Russia [WAR] would have been presented to Trump as “Fait accompli” upon office but, not now it’s too late.
“Who cares” says Dumbass, well, now Putin has three wars to quell instead of one and Recep Tayyip Erdoğan sees an opportunity for the return of the Ottoman Empire which has given Englishmen in posh clubs much joy…tally ho they cry.
Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 14 2025 17:41 utc | 115
Conquering Ukraine in a bloody blitzkreig costing hundreds of thousands in months would not change any of this. I see no reason why it would. Regardless how Russia takes Ukraine, NATO will mess with Russia until NATO is finished. SloMo puts pressure on NATO over a long period of time, whilst blitzkreig would simply invigorate them, and allow them to fight the way they want to fight.
I’ll say it again, better to lose 50,000 men a year for ten years than 450,000 in one year.
There are risks to every strategy. The “damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead” strategists somehow think their strategy has less risk than the SloMo. They also overestimate the West’s industrial capabilities and social cohesion, as well as appetite for casualties of their own, and make facile warnings of the west somehow rising from its slumber and becoming some war behemoth. Not going to happen. The men have been emasculated to a laughable degree, to start…
Also, you, in particular, have also warned/fretted about China stabbing Russia in the back, which is farcical.
Putin’s invasion of Ukraine suddenly made it appear that invasions happen all the time and without serious consideration of the risks. This probably stems from the belief that Putin simply is a fool, and just wily-nilly invaded Ukraine without an idea of how to solve the myriad of complex problems of the disease in Ukraine is but a symptom.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 14 2025 19:42 utc | 168

Hubert
Thanks for pointing this out. I was wondering why so many cities in the east ern part of Germany (not limited to former RDA) had slavic names

Posted by: Tom | Jul 14 2025 19:45 utc | 169

All the historical stuff about why ‘Putin’ did or didn’t do this or that, or recognise ‘a’ or ‘b’ is bye the bye. Of course it provides some sort of guidance to the future, as long as it is realistic, but what is important now is to try to see where we are heading. Russia is winning and will win this war, no matter what the US and EU try to do.
But the important issues now are: how far will Russia go, what measures will they implement in 404, how will NATO live down the humiliation, will NATO survive, what is the future of the North East passage, how soon will the USA dissolve into impotence, will it split into mutually hostile statelets, will US meddling in the Turkish-ethnic states come to anything, how successful will BRICS cohesion be, etc. etc.?
Answers on a postcard, or failing that, use paragraphs – please!

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jul 14 2025 19:48 utc | 170

james | Jul 14 2025 19:41 utc | 166
At the moment this is just an opinion, an interpretation, but Trump already said a few weeks ago that Article 5 would not apply.
Now the only thing that has been added is that the Europeans (should) pay for everything

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 14 2025 19:49 utc | 171

What you are saying, B, is frightening. You seem to imply that Russia started SVO unprepared, on a whim of the moment.
I see facts differently and come to different conclusion.
In the interview Putin says that from the early 2000s it was clear that the West was not acting as a friend. This is true and his deeds talk louder than words.
So, what Putin has been doing since he came to power in the year 2000? I remind, very shortly, just a few points:
He stopped the war in Chechnya.
He reformed the system of regional governance, effectively halting the decentralization of the state.
At the time he came to power, major industrial enterprises — including those of the military-industrial complex — were in the hands of murky individuals who had acquired them through dodgy privatization deals. The enterprises were not integrated into production chains. Most were on the verge of bankruptcy, and many were under foreign control. Putin consolidated these companies into unified vertically integrated structures. He began this process in early 2000s.
Putin withdrew from onerous international agreements, such as the Energy Charter Treaty and Share Production Agreements. He paid off debts and pushed the World Bank out of the country. He halted the transfer of oil assets to foreigners — see Yukos, Gazprom, etc.
He created the Reserve Fund.
He changed the system of Russian gas trade with the EU.
He resolved territorial disputes with China.
He strengthened Russia’s position within OPEC.
He carried out a reform of the Armed Forces (though not successfully at first).
He regained control over the largest media outlets.
He pushed blatant comprador figures out of politics. Let me remind you that Prime Minister Mikhail Kasyanov said that a fair price for Russian oil was $25 per barrel.
I would also assume that the timing of the Special Military Operation coinciding with the Chinese economy reaching parity with the U.S. is not accidental. But that’s just my speculation.
Overall, as we know from history, preparations for war take years. Preparations to World War I and World War II were clearly visible many years before they began. Entering a war with NATO without years of preparation would have been suicidal.

Posted by: SergeT | Jul 14 2025 19:50 utc | 172

I think the confusion some people, including president Putin, have arises from the fact that for a period the conflict with the capitalist West absolutely was ideological. The confusion comes from conflict between Russia and capitalist powers existed before the revolution that founded the USSR and again after the USSR dissolved itself; conflict which wasn’t ideological and is based upon economic interests.
Recall that capitalism periodically enters crises where the rate of profit collapses. Such a collapse occurred at the beginning of last century and was the cause for WWI as nations wrestled for markets. The same pressure on profit rates has also been building since the 1970s and became very noticeable in the 1990s, coinciding with Russia’s efforts to restore capitalism.
When this crisis of capitalism gets acute, capitalists will retreat behind national borders to try and bolster profits. They’ll try to wall off their own home markets. This happened in the run-up to WWI, and is happening again now. As this fails, capitalists will goad their home nations into open conflict to open other nations markets. Things are a little different this time since the top dog has to restore its industrial base first, but otherwise the crisis is the same as last time.
The Russians correctly noted that the problem the West had with the Soviet Union was ideological, but since they actually sucked at Marxist analysis (Stalinism was fossilized analysis) they stupidly thought dumping economic planning would make them best friends with the hegemon. Unfortunately, they dumped their socialist economy at the moment the capitalist dogs were starting to eat each other, and having no economic defenses, Russia ended up on the menu. As the profits crisis builds, capitalists states will cannibalize each other, starting with the weaker and less favored states first. We’re in that process now (sucks to be you. Germany! The US is eating you the way you ate Greece!)
Anyway, Putin is half wrong. Too bad he never paid attention in Marxism class.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 14 2025 19:51 utc | 173

@ smartfox | Jul 14 2025 19:49 utc | 170
well it makes sense that the usa would download the costs of the war on russia in ukraine, onto the europeans, if the europeans are stupid enough to go along with it… or are they just following orders from higher up?? who is issuing the orders?? the bankers? lots of questions! thanks for your posts..

Posted by: james | Jul 14 2025 19:55 utc | 174

UWDude | Jul 14 2025 19:42 utc |
Seeking clarity, so just have to ask:
Do you really think that the SMO undertaken by Russia under V.V.Putin regarding ‘Rump Ukraine’ was and is an invasion?

Posted by: DoesItReallyMatter | Jul 14 2025 20:00 utc | 175

“He resolved territorial disputes with China.”
sergeT | Jul 14 2025 19:50 utc | 171
what was the important basic for the today’s cooperation

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 14 2025 20:07 utc | 176

Posted by: bisfab | Jul 14 2025 16:55 utc | 92
“I wonder if Putin and his inner circle are increasingly becoming resigned to the fact that the west will never change THEIR ideology(?) so Russia has to roll with the punches and keep head above water until a better solution arises in the near future.”
THEIR ideology is clearly demonstrated in Gaza and Ukraine today. Terror bombing of Vietnam, Iraq (remember Abu Graib), and Libya thougth us nothing. Of cource it will not change. There are Zionist- controlled government, administration, churches in every western country, and very many others, Armenia, Turkya, Azerbajan, I can’t think of any exeption.

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Jul 14 2025 20:08 utc | 177

Do you really think that the SMO undertaken by Russia under V.V.Putin regarding ‘Rump Ukraine’ was and is an invasion?
Posted by: DoesItReallyMatter | Jul 14 2025 20:00 utc | 174
Yes, propaganda is necessary for the masses, but frankness is necessary for truth.
Also, this is not a “special military operation”, it is a war.
Also, the Ukrainians are not “nazis” and “nazis” have very little to do with this war.
Also, attacks on Russian territory and cities in the Donbass is not “terrorism”.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 14 2025 20:12 utc | 178

Marxists use the word “greed” sparingly in their works because attributing everything to “greed” obfuscates the forces at work. Marxists are very clear about the enemy which must be fought: capitalism.
Workers demanding the end of their exploitation under the capitalists could easily be portrayed as the workers being greedy. The capitalists would say: “The world would be a much better place if workers learned to stop being so greedy and demanding so much! It is I, the owner of capital, who is the source of value! The workers should be grateful that they’re even allowed to partake in the spoils of capital ownership!”
The liberals would be very pleased to see capitalism being kept out of the spotlight. The liberals can just say that both the workers and the capitalists are too greedy, both sides are bad, so the status quo should be preserved because there’s nothing we can do about “greed” because it’s part of some fixed, unchanging human nature.
Attributing America’s war against Russia and pretty much the rest of the world to “greed” falls into the same trap.
America’s wars are both driven by material and ideological reasons—base and superstructure. The United States is a rentier state dependent on the flow of tribute from the rest of the world obtained via the petrodollar hegemony to bribe its labor aristocracy. In other words, the materially rich and comfortable lives enjoyed by Americans that is the envy (told you about the dangers of attributing everything to “greed”) of the rest of the world is derived directly from the Americans’ exploitation of the proletariat in the rest of the world. Therefore, anything that threatens the perpetuation of this brutally exploitative system will be vigorously fought, whether the threat is ideological or material in nature.
Just look at the parade of the usual bogeymen trotted out by every American politician:
Cuba (communist [ideology], still under economic [material] sanctions)
Venezuela (socialist [ideology] oil-producing [material] country, target of coup attempts)
North Korea (communist [ideology] and sanctioned by the US)
Russia (formerly communist, has a national bourgeois class that refuses to subsume its interests [material] to Western capital)
Iran (circumvents petrodollar [material] hegemony)
Only by breaking the center of imperialism—that is, the center of capitalism—can the exploitative system be brought to an end. America is the heart of imperalism.
Death to America
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ
Marg bar Âmrikâ

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Jul 14 2025 20:20 utc | 179

Did Putin know what he was dealing with? probably not, but he knew enough to put a stop to it in time.
1990 saw the end of a dynasty. on the moscow cycle (but there’s the kiev before and the saint petersburg after)
Too much to discuss here, anyone care to adjourn to the open thread? (bonus for israel vs jews)

Posted by: Newbie | Jul 14 2025 20:21 utc | 180

Russia Enjoys Total Air Superiority, Trump’s Patriot Pledge is Just Political Theater: Scott Ritter
https://videon.img.ria.ru/Out/Flv/20250714/2025_07_14_xofx1_ep1wwk1n.kap.mp4

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 14 2025 20:26 utc | 181

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 14 2025 20:12 utc | 177
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Sober, day-posting is not your thing, friend.
This isn’t a war. If it were, Russia would be at the French border by now.
They are deliberately fighting slowly and carefully to allow for diplomatic resolution.
Also, NAZIs aren’t involved? LOL
It’s like you don’t understand European history at all.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 14 2025 20:31 utc | 182

One might call that ideological but I believe that it always has been and is about greed. There is one side in this conflict which never seems to have enough and therefore aims for Russia’s riches. What else explains Napoleon’s march to Moscow or the British war in Crimea? (See Karlov1 who writes a bit more about the ‘ideological’ aspect of this.)
But why did it take Putin and Russia until 2022 to accept the consequences of this insight?
Napoleon was hubris.
He expected the Tsar to bend the knee.
The English and French didn’t want another competing power in the east as the Ottomans Declined.
The current crisis is pure greed as per the Rand reports which advocated the breakdown of Russia into Balkanised regions.
There’s the ideological slant.

Posted by: jpc | Jul 14 2025 20:34 utc | 183

‘Ideology’ wears pants.

Posted by: elmagnostic | Jul 14 2025 20:35 utc | 184

Dmitry Trenin: World War III has already begun
Forget détente, Moscow must fight to the end
https://www.rt.com/news/621486-dmitry-trenin-world-war-iii/

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 14 2025 20:36 utc | 185

Posted by: will moon | Jul 14 2025 19:32 utc | 165
Articles published by Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL) they seem to be fund by the US congress.
Interest controls the content.

Posted by: Northern Eve | Jul 14 2025 20:39 utc | 186

Trump Threatens Russia With Taurus and Boosts US Weapons For Ukraine
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/trump-threatens-russia-with-tariffs-and-boosts-us-weapons-for-ukraine/
“…Trump said he would implement ‘severe tariffs’ unless a peace deal is reached within 50 days. He provided few details on how they would be implemented, but he described them as secondary tariffs, meaning they would target Russia’s trading partners in an effort to isolate Moscow in the global economy.
In addition Trump said [Canada and] European allies would buy ‘billions and billions’ of US military equipment to be transferred to Ukraine, replenishing the besieged country’s supplies of weapons.
He made the announcement in the Oval Office alongside NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte. Included in the plan are Patriot air-defence systems, a top priority for Ukraine as it fends off Russian drones and missiles.
Rutte said Germany, Finland, CANADA, Norway, Sweden, the UK and Denmark would be among the buyers to supply Ukraine…”
Hey Canucklheads, I thought PM Mark ‘Goldman-Sachs’ Carney promised no more big buys from United Snakes. Looks like the only ‘elbows up’ now are those he shoved up the fundaments of gullible Canadians who believed what ‘Mr Smooth’ told them during his leadership campaign.

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 14 2025 20:39 utc | 187

The greatest threat to the SloMo is the population of Moscow.
Muscovites, like all metropolises, are a majority of the population materialist. They see themselves as enlightened, as to having rejected nationalism, and embracing one world government, eg an embrace of the west.
If the West can convince them the casualties are too high, the enemies too great, and that Putin is the enemy, and NATO a friend who will make them rich, they can take to the streets in color revolution, aided by a small amount of armed agents of destabilization, and end Putin, thereby ending the SMO.
It does not matter who replaces him. All effort sent on the SMO will be for naught, as it will be squandered either on retreat if neoliberals seize power, or foolhardy war of obliteration, if the hardliners/maximalists take power.
The SloMo will succeed, and obtain all objectives, and has been the strategy for well over 4 years. But if it is interrupted, then it was all for nothing. even if Ukraine is seized in some blitzkreig, Russia truly will have been weakened doing so, unlike the propagandist “devastating losses” they are receiving now, they will receive truly devastating losses. enough to give neoliberals propaganda ammunition, enough to kill many patriotic citizens who would have been ex-soldiers, now grave dwellers, enough to leave it unable to withstand bullying in the Baltic, Mediterranian and Black Sea. (real bullying, not the propagandists “putin doesnt lift a finger” because of ISR planes in international waters)
Western propagandists KNOW this is the only way Russia fails to achieve the necessary objectives to secure itself from balkanization and destabilization. That is why it tries from every angle to make Putin look a fool or weak. It wants both neoliberals and maximalists to agree that something needs to change, and cares not what the change is, because it KNOWS the SMO will succeed given enough time, AND take down NATO to boot.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 14 2025 20:39 utc | 188

B.: But why did it take Putin and Russia until 2022 to accept the consequences of this insight?
1) Because Russians are too kind and don’t see evil in others’ minds.
or
2) Because Russians are too naive.
or
3) Because – before explaining it – Russia wanted to be strong enough militarily and economically, thus letting other leaders think that Russia is too kind or/and too naive.
Did anyone here read 911 collateral damage? It explains a lot and Putin must have been always aware of it. Some of his declarations point to the fact that he was. All what he did as President show that he knew.

Posted by: Naive | Jul 14 2025 20:39 utc | 189

I sleep at night thinking there’s a general agreement along the line of weapons testing including an eternal evil game of fighting it out in various battles under a “gentleman’s” agreement not to escalate past a certain point. The Russians were given most of Kherson and Zapo provinces in the first week of the war as an enticement to play the game. Now there’s a question whether Trump really wants to escalate or just give the impression of escalating. Why would that be? Besides just weapons testing, it could be that Zelensky and the west are being blackmailed by extremists in control of NPPs. They don’t want the extremists to ever get the idea they are losing or about to lose. That would explain the current “escalation” news. 50 days may be enough for Russia to get the 4 provinces they needed, or at least surround the city of Zapo or something like that. The Russian attitude is a lot can happen in 50 days. But it better not go like when Obama’s people escalated last December shooting long range missiles into Russia

Posted by: Possibleidea | Jul 14 2025 20:39 utc | 190

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 14 2025 17:41 utc | 115
“I enjoy reading history, I knew that Europe’s desire to dismember Russia was based on insatiable imperial greed but honestly, those effing empires were, post WWII, particularly the English one, but also the French/Dutch/Portuguese a bunch of sniveling twits unwilling, and in any case, incapable of taking care of their own empires, much less Russia’s. ”
British/ Russian History start about here:
Alexis of Russia – Wikipedia Alexei Mikhailovich in 1649. The elders of the English merchants were informed of the royal decree, which stated: “The English have committed a great evil deed with all their land, they have killed their sovereign, King Charles, Beheaded by Cromwell, for such an evil deed you were not destined to be in the Muscovite state.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_of_Russia
And Marx wrote about the challenges the Brits felt when Peter the Great made St. Petersburg and became a Baltic naval Power. And then they took Sevastopol and became a Black Sea naval power and the English was challenged again. And than they have their eastern ports Vladivostok. A Treath to the English Thallasocracy, Brittania rules the waves.

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Jul 14 2025 20:40 utc | 191

English Outsider | Jul 14 2025 18:04 utc | 124–
Thanks for your replies today and earlier. IMO, it’s the product of excessive amount of hubris known as megalomania. IMO, the important theatre is about to shift from Ukraine back to West Asia, and not just Palestine and Syria but from the Caspian Sea westward including all of Arabia and the Sudanese and Egyptian portions of Africa. IMO, the Ummah sees the danger posed by the Salafists and doesn’t want to see them exported as they were once. They and the Zionists pose very similar problems, but the Salafists lack nukes and an air force. In Ukraine, Marat Khairullen’s reports have proven very critical because they describe the terrain the Russians must contend with that slows their advance because it bolsters the Ukrainian defense works. So, the appearance of a slow slog will continue in the remaining urban portion of Donetsk.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 14 2025 20:42 utc | 192

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 14 2025 20:31 utc | 181
By your logic, no American wars have been wars since WW II, because USA didn’t use nukes to win. All wars have complications, rules, escalation binds, political considerations, both sides still trading with each other, etc, etc. Just because it isn’t total war does not mean it isn’t war.
But of course, you think we are in the American Civil War right now, sparked by the No Kings protest movement, which are still raging across America, but nobody is paying attention because we are all watching our fave OnlyFans girls.
Remember that? I think you are better off not replying to my posts.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 14 2025 20:44 utc | 193

Putin is correct, however there is cultural and religious component to this conflict.
This component is obvious to most observers
Russia today is predominantly (although hardly exclusively) Orthodox Christian. As such the government has done much to reinvigorate the Russian Orthodox Church. It honors the traditional values of the church. Faith, family, protection of life, nurturing of the next generation, veneration of the saints and holidays are all important values. Rejection of the LGBTQ+ agenda, and the mixing of genders are other key elements of Russia today.
Contrast that which the EU (or most of it) and the UK and Canada and formerly the US under mentally deficient Biden regime. Those values included attacks on the faithful, repression of religion and religious orders, censorship of the faithful, blind adherence of LGBTQ+ agenda, DEI, CRT, public funding of the murder of the unborn up until birth, public funding of child mutilation’s, etc., etc.
Russia committed public funds, by contrast, with the rebuilding of Orthodox Churches destroyed under Stalin, and has aided the Orthodox in other countries too. Putin heavily donated, for example only, to the rebuilding of St. Sava’s Cathedral in Belgrade.
The EU and the UK is openly hostile to Christians, even arresting the payerful for their devotions. Some of that is due to the power and influence of secular Jews, but most is due to the official agnosticism rampant in EU, UK, Canada and America. Christians in New York State and Ireland for example were threatened with arrest if dared attend church services during the pandemic, and Catholics came under FBI scrutiny and surveillance during the crazed Biden years, because of their faith traditions (how ironic considering the Biden is an ex Catholic being excommunicated latea sententiatea for his anti Catholic policies).
So yes, Russia is defending traditional Christian religious values, against the EU, UK, Canada and old US regime policies which they have extended and subsidized in the Ukraine under the rule of secular Jew Volo the First.
Its time for the Trump WH to get the picture, listen to Tucker and Steve, and not Lindsay…………….

Posted by: tobias cole | Jul 14 2025 20:44 utc | 194

Posted by: jpc | Jul 14 2025 20:34 utc | 182
There is one side in this conflict which never seems to have enough and therefore aims for Russia’s riches. What else explains Napoleon’s march to Moscow or the British war in Crimea?
Napoleon was hubris.
He expected the Tsar to bend the knee.

I’ve learned that Napoleon demanded that Russia cease trade with England. The tsar refused and Napoleon wanted to resolve this issue before taking on England.
Hubris? Perhaps but Napoleon rightly assessed that he could get to Moscow. He underestimated Russian conviction, space and winter, that’s why I wouldn’t argue that his planning was sober. But Napoleon got further than those before and after him in “solving” the Russian problem.
re: greed. I believe this word is as useful as “stupidity” in explaining what we see. (That is: a bad explanation.) A person can be more or less greedy/stupid. For groups of humans, larger forces are at work, that can then act as/by greed or stupidity on the individual.

Posted by: Konami | Jul 14 2025 20:45 utc | 195

It appears Serge T @171 has seen the entire video.
I noted that Putin’s meeting today on social issues would provide a clue about his and Russia’s ideology. “Can an Examination of Social Issues Reveal the Ideology Trying to Resolve Them?” The answer is yes it can and does. Click the link and get educated.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 14 2025 20:48 utc | 196

Posted by: Konami | Jul 14 2025 20:45 utc | 194
Agreed on “greed”. It’s sophomoric.
Also, agreed on Napoleon.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 14 2025 20:48 utc | 197

@Sirdavide #2
Rothshild bank in 1915 you say. But that was 8 years after the Rothschilds were threatened by Edward VII that they were not welcome if they didnt do what Edward wanted. And he wanted the Bankers to be beneficial to Britain only. (Reminding of what Johan Kaspar answered)
Thereafter the Rothschilds and the other bankers complied with the masonic oligarchy’s orders
To not have fruitful relations with the two most promising nations Germany and Russia but remaining lojal to the British empire even if other nations had greater potential and no war was needed.
1915 is correct. It was on that year that those actually disciplined bankers met in Paris and decided that the Tsar must go.
To create the FED.
To complement what Johan Kaspar said I like to add that it may also be expressed in terms of the greater good for the oligarchy as a whole. The oligarchy is a collective. Unlike Marx’s expectations that they will compete until the last man standing owns everything an oligarchy consisting of some minimum number of different minds will, longterm, be more intelligent than when too few dominating individual remains.
I am not sure oligarchies have some forum where they discuss the merits of having a certain number of oligarchs and opt to obtain the best number.
In Venice some 13 families took turns and the system worked for over a millenium.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jul 14 2025 20:49 utc | 198

Posted by: SergeT | Jul 14 2025 19:50 utc | 171
Exactly! Well said!
It took so many years to develop the program of new irrestible weapons. In 2022 all those new weapons were not ready (at least Burevestnik and Poseidon and hazelnut… and several others). Today I guess they are. But it was necessary to win time.

Posted by: Naive | Jul 14 2025 20:54 utc | 199

I think, given the paucity of quotes we have to go on, that Putin is using the term ‘ideology’ as meaning empirical or nonempirical aspiration. Karlof1 has this quotation from Tass:
“But the trick is, post WWII, the United States, too, worked with the Soviet Union to demolish those empires, to a certain extent. They worked toward assisting colonies in regaining their independence and sovereignty,” the Russian leader explained.
Putin felt at first that the prior ‘ideology’ of the US was,as even during late communist times the USSR was, anti-empirical and non-expansionist as Russia’s now is. It took a while for him to realize that it was not. I think that is what he is saying here. He is talking about how Russia de-colonized after WW2, not about communism as an ideology per se.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 14 2025 20:55 utc | 200