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July 3, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-148
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To bomb at will and whenever – will Trump give it the go ahead – of course he will.
“Israel is seeking an agreement with the United States to implement the ‘Lebanon model’ in Iran – securing freedom of aerial operations over Iran similar to the current arrangement in Lebanon,” – Israeli Channel 11.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 4 2025 20:41 utc | 101
The Saudi’s will get into bed with any nation that shows strength – besides the US props up this evil regime, and helps it suppress its civilians.
“Saudi Arabia secretly aided Israel’s defense against Iran, despite publicly condemning Israeli strikes. Riyadh provided radar data, shared intelligence, and opened northern airspace for Israeli aircraft, helping intercept Iranian missiles and drones”
– Israel Hayom.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 4 2025 20:46 utc | 102
Journalist Sohaib Al-Masalma
[All in quotes]
– Hamas issues a statement and responds to the mediators’ proposal for a ceasefire in the Gaza Strip….
*Press Release*
Hamas has completed its internal consultations with Palestinian factions and forces regarding the mediators’ latest proposal to halt the aggression against our people in Gaza. The movement has submitted a positive response to the mediators, and the movement is fully prepared to immediately enter into a round of negotiations regarding the mechanism for implementing this framework.
– Currently the occupation will study Hamas’s response and the points it amended in the proposal, and the response will be tomorrow after the conclusion of the security and political meeting “the cabinet”.
– The amendments Hamas is demanding are (said to be) :
Reinstating the aid delivery method stipulated in the previous truce
An Israeli withdrawal to the borders of the previous agreement,
A non-return to war after 60 days, and a guarantee of the continuation of negotiations, as Egypt, the United States, and Qatar have provided guarantees for the continuation of negotiations only, without promises of their effectiveness.
Via:
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
Posted by: Ornot | Jul 4 2025 21:19 utc | 103
@ Ornot | Jul 4 2025 21:19 utc | 103 with the latest Hamas response to negotiations…thx
I don’t see Occupied Palestine agreeing to this or, if they do, only until they are in a position to attack Palestinians again.
Occupied Palestine needs to be defeated, IMO.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 4 2025 21:27 utc | 104
see the 8-second video at the first link. I’ve seen many videos but never anything quite like this. unbelievable
and see the videos at the other two links as well
https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1940931113926500827
☀️👀 @zei_squirrel
new horrifying footage of one of the illegal Israeli strikes on Iran from June 15, intentionally targeting and mass murdering civilians, babies, children, girls, boys, women and men. This is what the entire Western media and political class gleefully came out to support and launder as “preemptive self-defense”. Iran needs to do some actual preemptive self-defense like this to Tel Aviv all day every day
https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1940932972632563981
genocidal Zionists gleefully share videos like this of their mass murders, like with footage from Gaza where they zoom in on the wounds of babies and children and cheer. It is a death-cult that can only be stopped by doing it to them a million times over
https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1894098618233008521
there is an Israeli telegram account with over 110K followers where they just post images and videos of close-ups of killed and wounded Palestinians, especially children and babies, and of them and their families crying, as they celebrate and cheer it on
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jul 4 2025 23:09 utc | 105
see the 8-second video at the first link. I’ve seen many videos but never anything quite like this. unbelievable
“>https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1940931113926500827
What is going on there? To me it looks like a double explosion – first goes a horizontal ejection from the building in the leftside background, which then recoils off another building to the right; moments later the parking lot in the foreground rips up.
Posted by: persiflo | Jul 5 2025 0:00 utc | 106
@ persiflo | Jul 5 2025 0:00 utc | 106 with the link to X that no longer works…Hmmmm
Must have been good…..I expect others will come forward….
It is another example of suppression of free speech by Musk who rails on about the subject but is just another hypocrite.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 5 2025 0:34 utc | 107
@107
Can still see it here:
https://nitter.poast.org/zei_squirrel/status/1940931113926500827
Posted by: Thurl | Jul 5 2025 0:39 utc | 108
What is going on there? To me it looks like a double explosion – first goes a horizontal ejection from the building in the leftside background, which then recoils off another building to the right; moments later the parking lot in the foreground rips up.
Posted by: persiflo | Jul 5 2025 0:00 utc | 106
Yes. Two different explosions. The building is blowing out as if the ordnance is planted inside.
I initially thought the cars/parking lot were a part of that. Then it became clear that the cars flying/parking lot exploding is a separate ‘explosion’ less than a second later.
I then thought this explosion was from a bomb planted in one of the cars.
Upon further viewing I noticed a white sort of ‘laser-like’ streak appearing seemingly out of nowhere to the upper left of the first car that blew up. It can be viewed as a ‘laser’ directed energy that blew out the car/s and their surroundings. That’s what it looks like to me.
But I can also ‘see’ it as something that emanated from the car before the actual explosion.
I lean towards the former after viewing it multiple times.
But I can’t see where this destructive energy originates from. There is no drone. It isn’t coming from the bldg immediately behind. It just appears in the air out of nowhere and obliterates the car it’s ‘focused’ on and subsequently the immediate environs are ‘blown out.’
https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1940931113926500827
Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jul 5 2025 0:53 utc | 109
moments later the parking lot in the foreground rips up.
Posted by: persiflo | Jul 5 2025 0:00 utc | 106
That’s not a parking lot. Those are cars at a traffic light, full of people. The zionists desperately need a taste of their own methods. But think how many jews that would make uncomfortable.
Posted by: mena | Jul 5 2025 0:58 utc | 110
Anyone found an official confirmation for this?
“Iran Receives 40 Chinese J-10C”
Would iran have 40 pilots being trained?
Also would like any serious confirmation about Xi saying anything serious about iran, namely
“Our strategic interests in the Middle East will no longer be threatened. We will stand with Iran.”
PSY-OP? whose?
Posted by: Newbie | Jul 5 2025 1:13 utc | 111
Our strategic interests in the Middle East will no longer be threatened. We will stand with Iran.
PSY-OP? whose?
That statement is highly suspect. It’s found in a couple weird facebook accts and has been picked up by a few other others who would very much like to believe it.
It says it’s sourced from ‘Iran military’ but it only traces back to non-official and frankly rather silly sources.
Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jul 5 2025 1:35 utc | 112
Original page not linkable/viewable (censored) but the rest of the article must be online somewhere, I just copy the text for the controversy it highlights:
“This is what Australian lawyer
Hannah Thomas’ face became after she was violently beaten by Australian police during a peaceful demonstration denouncing the genocide in Gaza.
She is now undergoing surgery and may lose her sight. The poor thing may have thought she was in one of those demonstrations held to spread homosexuality and nudity, which feminist and secular organizations rush to under the banner of human rights.
But she did not know that her demonstration for Gaza would pass by those organizations like weather forecasting and would not become a trend for seventeen years, because her injury had nothing to do with removing her hijab, wearing makeup, or prostitution.
What happened to Australian lawyer Hannah Thomas clearly embodies the double standards in dealing with issues of rights and freedoms…
When the victim is defending Palestine or standing against genocide, the violence against her becomes a mere “accident” that does not move the conscience of human rights institutions that rise up like a storm when it comes to trivial issues or those of an ideological nature that serves their interests…
The injuries she sustained are not only a crime against an individual, but a disgrace to those who claim to selectively represent human values…”
Posted by: Ornot | Jul 5 2025 2:34 utc | 113
@109 Dan
The streak was (likely bunker) munition, hence the delay and effects before detonation.
@111 Newbie
https://www.coreinsightsintl.com/post/china-announces-we-stand-with-iran
Seems authentic ?
Also JC-10 have read various claims, the most realistic sounding was that the first aircraft delivered, some say all (40) .
Posted by: Ornot | Jul 5 2025 2:42 utc | 114
A Gaza daily reality (not graphic) :
https://t.me/youseffares19/82249
Posted by: Ornot | Jul 5 2025 2:47 utc | 115