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July 30, 2025
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2025-170

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Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 3 2025 0:13 utc | 203
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You’re incredibly naive if you think Candace or Tucker talking about Israel is legitimate.
Must not have been a wrestling fan. This is all kayfabe.
Re-read DDG’s exposé and look at how she was created.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 0:17 utc | 201

@ lex talionis
Yes, it is a massively long takedown.
It runs three hours. It begins at 2:23:30 in his stream fyi.
What LD links from Fuentes’ x is just a taste. IMO, if you really want to know about Vance, Tucker, Milei in Argentina, Thiel, et.al. you will want to watch the whole takedown.
If you know nothing about Fuentes, you are coming in midway in the movie. It’s a difficult chore then, I totally agree. He is also a zoomer so his humor is hard to keep up with. Yet he is truly a generational talent.
But, dude…you will not be disappointed. Tucker is done. This is the beginning of the end for him.
Watch it and then come back and tell me if I am crazy or if I truly did just see something momentous happen.
Once again, even though Fuentes is a paleocon, this should appeal to just about everyone. Tucker has enormous clout in the MAGA movement and in journalism, mainstream and alternative.
He was just absolutely destroyed by a “gay kid in a basement.”
Thx for reading.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 3 2025 0:24 utc | 202

LD and NC tag-team to recurrently praise the Lord Fuentes, founder of America First Political Action Committee (AFPAC — a megastupid alternative to CPAC). And you’re telling me these tools don’t look so-obviously-Hasbara to you?
RollingStone had this report about Lord Fuentes and AFPAC:

It is clear, however, that some prominent CPAC speakers are, as the kids say, here for it.
That’s most obvious with Rep. Majorie Taylor Greene, the House Republican from Georgia who proudly took the stage at AFPAC on Friday night, hours before her Saturday speaking appearance at CPAC. On Friday she was introduced by Nick Fuentes, a white nationalist whose own AFPAC address featured giggling praise of Adolf Hitler. Greene spoke at CPAC on Saturday morning, and pressed afterward about AFPAC and Fuentes, she said she was there to address his audience and claimed to have no knowledge of him nor any affiliation with — effectively pleading total ignorance and detachment from a conference she’d been a featured speaker at and a leader who’d introduced her.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/cpac-afpac-nick-fuentes-marjorie-taylor-greene-1313210/

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 3 2025 0:53 utc | 203

I adore intellectual disputes between titans. In my philosophical explorations, which recurrently dive into the mid-1800’s, I’ve stumbled upon the best yet, for mutual eloquence: the debate between Thomas Carlyle and John Stuart Mill on the Negro Question, in Fraser’s Magazine:
“Occasional Discourse on the Negro Question” (1849) by Thomas Carlyle
https://www.hetwebsite.net/het/texts/carlyle/carlyle1849negroquestion.htm
“The Negro Question (1850) by John Stuart Mill
https://www.hetwebsite.net/het/texts/carlyle/mill1850negroquestion.htm
Incidentally, it was in this “Occasional Discourse” that Carlyle coined the term The Dismal Science…

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 3 2025 1:15 utc | 204

@ Aleph_Null | Aug 3 2025 0:53 utc | 206
thanks for that bit of insight…

Posted by: james | Aug 3 2025 1:45 utc | 205

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 3 2025 0:53 utc | 206
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Not that I particularly noticed your posts before, but you are really trying too hard.
I am not a Fuentes fan; he’s pro-American. I am not.
Your push to discredit is something a gatekeeper does. Gatekeepers glow.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 2:00 utc | 206

In 1999, Tucker Carlson claimed Pat Buchanan discredited the discussion about immigration and the Israel lobby.
Yesterday, he claimed Nick Fuentes is part of a campaign to discredit “non-crazy, right voices.”
He’s been using the same smear tactics for 25 years.

1 minute 36 second video
https://x.com/FuentesUpdates/status/1951814495011295374
Gatekeeping.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 2:04 utc | 207

The average American has been to 5 of these cities. How many have you been too?
I’ll start, 14.

image
https://x.com/PettusWX/status/1950324073042452754
At least 9.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 2:10 utc | 208

33 (36 if one counts drive-thrus).

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 3 2025 2:13 utc | 209

The poster on Twitter had been to 14. I had been to 9.
Misformatted post by me.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 2:19 utc | 210

Jap vs Chinese…..
FUKUSA, aka AUKUS,

Whats not to like, getting Jp, Chinese going at each other’s throat ?

Posted by: denk | Aug 2 2025 18:09 utc | 181
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Indians vs Chinese
In open discourse, the G7 bragged about shared values with their Indian cousin.
Behind closed doors they showed their true color…
‘to leave decisions about the world economy ‘to officials somewhere in Africa or some Asian capital is not a good idea’. Rather than allow African and Asian leaders a say in important global matters, it would be better for serious decisions to be made by ‘the sort of people sitting around this table’.
……..
We need a vehicle where we can find solutions for these challenges [the growth of China and India] together—so when these monsters arrive in 10 years, we will be able to deal with them’.’
Their solution ?
FUKUSA aka AUKUS
‘We fail to see that it is not in the Western interest to have the Chinese and the Indians at each other’s throats.”
https://tinyurl.com/4w5pva43
https://tinyurl.com/55h6mc82
White supremacists [eg Carlson] and Western imperialism are alive and kicking, no Jews or zionists required !

Posted by: denk | Aug 3 2025 3:05 utc | 211

Posted by: denk | Aug 3 2025 3:05 utc | 214
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True, it’s not the Sephardic and Arab Jews who are the biggest problem.
It’s the white European stock ones (Ashkenazi). The Poles, Americans, Germans, Spaniards, and Russians.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 3:53 utc | 212

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 3:53 utc | 215
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Dont forget FUKUSA aka AUKUS, THE hardcore.

AUKUS Partners Consider Cooperation With Japan
8 Apr 2024 — The US, Australia and the United Kingdom, members of the AUKUS partnership, are considering cooperation with Japan on advanced capabilities projects.
AUKUS in talks with Canada, Japan, NZ, say leaders
Reuters
17 Sept 2024 — AUKUS partners Australia, Britain and the United States said on Wednesday they are in discussions with Canada, Japan and New Zealand about potential …
Wary of China, US ranks Japan ‘first’ among Aukus partners
South China Morning Post
19 Oct 2024 — The US considers Japan “first” among Aukus partners as it keeps a wary eye on China following meetings in Tokyo this week, America’s No 2 diplomat revealed on …

Pirates will do what pirates always do, Jews or no Jews.

FUKUSA, aka AUKUS
,, Japan’s membership could hardly be more provocative to China
Japan joining AUKUS a stark reminder of China’s Century of Humiliation

forchrissake, what cant they just call a spade a spade, FUKUSA !

Posted by: denk | Aug 3 2025 4:21 utc | 213

@ aleph
Thanks.
While searching prior threads, I came across Roger’s assessment, also replying to Nemesis:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/07/the-moa-week-in-review-ot-2025-167.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d3d95bab200c#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d3d95bab200c
Maybe that’s your assessment of NF too?
I don’t know enough about NF. But, I did watch NF take down Tucker and some others. You might say “I’m way past that”. But the takedown alone is worth it. NF discusses the purpose Tucker, Candace, and some others serve. Watch on 1.5x

Posted by: I forgot | Aug 3 2025 4:28 utc | 214

@ LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 2:10 utc | 211
@ malenkov | Aug 3 2025 2:13 utc | 212
I was going to brag I’ve been to 23. But then I noticed I was totally disadvantaged because i never participated in a live simulation of the Traveling Salesman Problem like malenkov.

Posted by: I forgot | Aug 3 2025 4:36 utc | 215

@ Aleph_Null | Aug 3 2025 0:53 utc | 206
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/cpac-afpac-nick-fuentes-marjorie-taylor-greene-1313210/
Wait…what? Rolling Stone’s writing is meaningful ?

Posted by: I forgot | Aug 3 2025 4:42 utc | 216

Senate heads home after failed attempt to strike deal on nominees https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/02/politics/senate-trump-schumer-standoff
What will Trump play while the senate’s away?

Posted by: Laurence | Aug 3 2025 6:57 utc | 217

I watched the Tucker Carlson interview, as far as the part about Freud, so that’s the only part I will comment on. In the Preface to his work “Moses, the Revelation and the Covenant”, Martin Buber has this footnote: “1. That a scholar of so much importance in his own field as Sigmund Freud could permit himself to issue so unscientific a work, based on groundless hypotheses as his ‘Moses and Monotheism'(1939) is regrettable.”
As Buber opposed the Zionists (after first joining them) I respect his measured judgment here. Thanks for all the comments above. I’ll stick with Valaam myself for now.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 3 2025 9:40 utc | 218

And as one of the comments above mentions Michael Hudson, I will further respond that Buber’s quote about Freud above could also apply to Prof. Hudson with respect to his application of economic theory to the sermon and prayer in which Jesus talks about debt as the Gospel writers describe. It is, similarly, a regrettably ‘unscientific’ application — or rather, an application in which science is out of its depth.
(Apologies to psychohistorian for bringing up ‘monotheism’ in the quotation above. We each have our hobbyhorse; this one is mine.)

Posted by: juliania | Aug 3 2025 10:07 utc | 219

I watched Fuentes, Alex Jones and Kanye a while ago have a chat – just two grifting. sheep dogs sheparding a very lost sheep
Owens is a fraud, Macron is a fraud – who cares. We are in a world where Israel, with the full support of US, UK France Germany, are liquidating civilians by the tens of thousands – kids in tents, the starving queuing for food, journalists, anyone, everyone in Gaza
Aleph_Null you shout about “hasbara” all the time – accusing others continually, very tedious . I don’t think Tom Lehrer was a bad guy, judging by the songs I’ve heard, I don’t think Lehrer would swallow Owens talking points She is now attempting to “humanise” Harvey Weinstein, a prolific sexual predator and convicted rapist, instead of his victims – she is disgusting. Are you onside with this “Free Harvey Weinstein “ stuff?
You talk about Gary Webb inspiring you but don’t know the first thing about his work or that his inquiry was focused on the US not Iran or Nicaragua. Most US citizens who know of Webb’s work, would know that, yet you don’t lol
“ The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.”
Lenin

Posted by: will moon | Aug 3 2025 10:51 utc | 220

Russia needs people who work in its economy. And Russia sacrifices tens of thousands of men just to gain a few kilometers. A country behaving idiotic like that will run into problems. And it also has to rebuild equipment. Russia once was the country with the most tanks and most of them are gone now.
If the Russian military wasn’t far times bigger then Ukraine’s they would have lost this war long ago because their military tactics are ineffective and dated and they seem to adapt very slowly. And absolutely no innovation, they just copy Ukraine’s ideas.
And what happened in Syria also says a lot about Russia.

Posted by: kafunshou | Aug 3 2025 11:54 utc | 221

“ And absolutely no innovation”@11:54
Lol do you remember “cope cages” – innovation and guess what? NATO and all the militaries copied them
NATO’s bloated MIC would call them “tactical drone protection systems “ and charge millions just to make sure the shareholders get paid

Posted by: will moon | Aug 3 2025 12:10 utc | 222

Fascinating read. Even in this space russia proves itself a paper tiger, and such “peaceful nation” that’s so entirely focused on the offensive that yet again they don’t even think to have defences ready

Posted by: 9903 | Aug 3 2025 12:31 utc | 223

Anyone ever noticed how pretty much everything that people thought was “good”, “working” or “powerful” when it comes to russia, was either self-proclaimed, or told by “experts” who simply parroted what russia self-proclaimed?

Posted by: Big Combination | Aug 3 2025 14:38 utc | 224

I don’t know enough about NF. But, I did watch NF take down Tucker…
@ I forgot | Aug 3 2025 4:28 utc | 217

Some barflies have evidently forgotten to consult their own common sense, may they have any remaining, with regard to Lord Fuentes’ much-praised “takedown” of the whole slate of major Zionazi irritants, certainly including Tucker Carlson and especially focused on Candace Owens. I noted about a week ago in here something Owens doesn’t yet realize: Because she’s become number one in keeping the spotlight on Epstein’s List, she’s become DJT’s enemy number one. Naturally, out swarm the Zionazi flying monkeys (including a couple of confirmed creeps, creeping around in here) to “expose” terribly suspicious associations and origins of Candace.
Or Tucker. Or Larry. Whomsoever his most excellent Zionist Orangness points out, his tools are ready and willing to ruin their own reputations in their loyalty to tyranny. They mean to silence the voices you’re not supposed to hear; not by refuting anything Candace has to say about Macron or JFK, not via intelligent exchange of viewpoints. If you have the stomach and the time (six hours?!?) to view anything from Lord Fuentes, you’ll find, as I have, that it’s 100% character assassination.
Well it isn’t going to work. Every word you foolish character-assassins senselessly hurl at Candace only makes people want to know more about how and why she’s annoyed the Zionazis. It used to be called The Streisand Effect — attempts to silence only amplify. Candace says it will come to be known as The Macron Effect.
People constantly assail the origins and associations of practically my favorite blogger, Larry Johnson. I mean, the fellow is/was a company goon, with buckets of blood on his hands through the imperial terrorism he’s fomented, as part of his past professional responsibilities. You can deploy the same mode of character assassination against every single member of VIPS (Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity). If you’re looking for Jesus Christ, he promised to come back any day now. In the meantime, all we have to go by are the words of imperfect human beings.
What matters is what you’re doing with your voice today. I’m with the ones who can summon the courage it takes to brush off the flying monkeys and give voice to truths others can’t stand, regardless of where they’ve been or who they’ve been in the course of their sordid careers.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 3 2025 15:14 utc | 225

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 3 2025 15:14 utc | 228
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Are you related to Candace?
You’re taking this very personal.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 15:23 utc | 226

You talk about Gary Webb inspiring you but don’t know the first thing about his work or that his inquiry was focused on the US not Iran or Nicaragua. Most US citizens who know of Webb’s work, would know that, yet you don’t lol
@ will moon | Aug 3 2025 10:51 utc | 223

This strange one is laughing out loud about something, again. Forgive me if I don’t get it. I don’t see what’s funny about Gary Webb. Don’t even try to take that tone with me about my brother in truth, you abject hyena.
From my bookshelf to yours, highly recommended for intelligent readers:
DARK ALLIANCE: The CIA, the Contras, and the Crack Cocaine Explosion
by Gary Webb (forward by Maxine Waters, 1998)
“THE KILLING GAME”: selected writings by the author of Dark Alliance
Eric Webb, editor; Tom Loftus, foreword; Robert Parry, afterword (2011)

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 3 2025 15:31 utc | 227

Are you related to Candace?
You’re taking this very personal.
@ LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 15:23 utc | 229

Look! Now Mossad’s psychoanalyst wants to delve into Aleph’s origins and associations! Above I linked a classic, historic debate between true thinkers (Thomas Carlyle and John Stuart Mill) as an illustration of what substantive dialectic looks like. Obviously it would have to be focused on issues, not personalities.
This is the very last time I’ll acknowledge arch-Hasbarist LD, who specializes in petty sniping with practically all fellow barflies. Please do keep in mind, my friends, it’s a profound honor to be swarmed by flying monkeys.
Thank you, you’ve made my day.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 3 2025 15:46 utc | 228

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 3 2025 15:46 utc | 231
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Then why do you personalize stuff about Fuentes?
Hypocrisy is a bad look.
😂😂😂
Happy to make your day, you didn’t answer why you’re so energetic in defense of Candace, nor have you said anything substantial about her media creation and close ties to Zionists.
Remember, every accusation is a confession…

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 16:01 utc | 229

The CIA created 885 websites – spy on and put down the likes of Russia, China Venezuela Iran and Europe.
“The CIA didn’t just infiltrate governments; it infiltrated the internet itself. For over a decade, Langley operated a sprawling network of covert websites that served as global spy terminals disguised as harmless blogs, news hubs, and fan pages.
Beginning in 2004, the CIA established a vast network of at least 885 websites, ranging from Johnny Carson and Star Wars fan pages to online message boards about Rastafari. Spanning 29 languages and targeting at least 36 countries directly, these websites were aimed not only at adversaries such as China, Venezuela, and Russia, but also at allied nations, including France, Italy, and Spain, showing that the United States treats its friends much like its foes.”
https://www.mintpressnews.com/cia-secret-network-885-fake-websites/290325/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 3 2025 16:52 utc | 230

Looks like Maxwell could be freed soon.
“Ghislaine Maxwell, the convicted partner of disgraced late financier and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, has been moved from a low-security federal prison in Florida to a new facility in Texas.
The abrupt transfer follows meetings between Maxwell, who is serving a 20-year prison term for sex trafficking, and Deputy US Attorney General Todd Blanche. The details of the meetings have not been made public.
The move was officially confirmed by the US Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP) on Friday, with the agency providing no explanation for the decision.
“We can confirm Ghislaine Maxwell is in the custody of the Federal Bureau of Prisons at the Federal Prison Camp (FPC) Bryan in Bryan, Texas,” the BOP said in a statement.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 3 2025 17:04 utc | 231

Always has been. I spent my juvenile years there and people always joke back then that russian things has no quality in them. Cars are dismantling itself just when you leave the dealership, clothes aren’t looks nice and feels like it made from wood chip, and people said this about everything in late 90 early 00. All tech things was crumbles from ussr and had some potential, but if you wanna expand those technologies you need not to just steal money from budget, but invest in said tech. Nobody got this simple design then, no one get it now
People who has power in Russia, they are relics, they don’t understand what internet is, or any modern day technology. Wired phones, documents on paper, tv. All the things that old population can understand

Posted by: Mountain Bee | Aug 3 2025 17:16 utc | 232

Aleph-Null@15:31
In your own words from a week ago
“ Sometimes a reporter meets his career story. Gary Webb, RIP, was destroyed because of his commitment to the Dark Alliance story of CIA malfeasance in Iran and Nicaragua. At one point, I wanted to be a journalist.etc etc”
“CIA malfeasance in Iran and Nicaragua” is is not the story of “Dark Alliance”.
The story is about CIA malfeasance in the United States of America – facilitating cocaine shipments into American cities you should know this O fake Gary Webb fan.
It looks like “homey” does play and “homey” plays exceedingly badly LOL. T

Posted by: will moon | Aug 3 2025 18:16 utc | 233

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 3 2025 17:04 utc | 234
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What do you want to bet that Maxwell and Epstein will be reunited on an island someday soon?
I mean, she was innocent, and this was all a Dembot conspiracy theory that got her landed in jail. 😂😂😂 That’s the MAGA narrative now.
It is hilarious to me that Trump made waves debating Clinton by inviting Bill’s victims to sit in the audience as guests, and then, now, all of Epstein’s victims no longer exist. LOL
This is next-level gaslighting. The sheer balls (or desperation) it takes to attempt to rewrite history in real-time. Wow.
If the MAGAs had any objectivity, this would be DOA. Instead, they are going to make it part of the 30D history of America.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 18:32 utc | 234

The Russians are very good at projecting the image of a country much more powerful than they actually are, mostly via exploiting the subconscious Western memory of the actual superpower that was the USSR.
From how the Russian state conducts itself, you’d think they were the world’s third great power alongside the US and China, as opposed to being just Indonesia or Türkiye but with a colossal inherited nuclear arsenal. They are ‘fake it until you make it’ on an international level.

Posted by: Barit Brit | Aug 3 2025 22:02 utc | 235

When their -22 attack started and it was revealed some troops were wearing boots from the WWII era, I was reminded of two things: 1) their claim at making their infantry invincible thanks to a space age, super futuristic looking uniform some years earlier, and 2) the fact some years earlier some European military surplus stores had purchased surprising batches of what were called 100% genuine Russian uniforms…

Posted by: Masseyrati | Aug 4 2025 10:11 utc | 236