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July 30, 2025
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2025-170
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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Here is the link I mentioned above at 103: Posted by: juliania | Aug 1 2025 0:15 utc | 101 And again,in case you missed my post on the first page, here is the link that my above comments relate to: Posted by: juliania | Aug 1 2025 0:22 utc | 102 My last comment for now: Posted by: juliania | Aug 1 2025 0:25 utc | 103 @ juliania | Aug 1 2025 0:11 utc | 103 Posted by: james | Aug 1 2025 0:50 utc | 104 my view on – 38 minutes to the end of this video.. alex krainer is articulating a particular viewpoint on trump which he has said for some time.. he essentially believes in the positive agenda of trump and believes that he is playing off both sides to his own advantage… it is a very idealistic view he has on trump as being a master at deception and double guessing as to his actual intent.. it is certainly an attractive presentation of trump that alex cultivates.. i can go along with some of it, but not all of it.. i really don’t think he is that bright, or that he is in control of it all.. in fact, i think trump is guided by his own self interest and from a very egocentric and narcissistic position.. Posted by: james | Aug 1 2025 1:20 utc | 105 Global News Posted by: Laurence | Aug 1 2025 2:46 utc | 106 Global News Posted by: Laurence | Aug 1 2025 2:50 utc | 107 psychohistorian | Jul 31 2025 19:38 utc | 94– quote from today indian punchline – Posted by: james | Aug 1 2025 4:06 utc | 109 Without the US Xian Zio money (from wasp to the death-obsessed mormons) there would not be colonization or the weapons to carry ln with the horror: France has a simple way to pressure Trump or even get his head by releasing the material they seized in Epstein’s Paris property or the Jean-Luc Brunel file. Posted by: Tom | Aug 1 2025 4:20 utc | 110 Posted by: james | Aug 1 2025 1:20 utc | 108 Posted by: juliania | Aug 1 2025 6:17 utc | 111 tobias cole (96). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 1 2025 8:41 utc | 112 The little coke head president of France says the EU is not feared enough – I’m sure there are many African citizens past and present, who greatly feared European imperialism/colonialism – which plundered and murdered its way across the continent, and to some extent it still does. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 1 2025 8:45 utc | 113 Eastern European diplomats might be concerned about the return of cheap energy to their countries – but I bet their citizens are longing for its return, who doesn’t want cheap energy? These diplomats have their own agenda, which doesn’t include helping their own citizens economically – if the below is anything to go by. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 1 2025 8:52 utc | 114 Which is more important BRICS or SCO? Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 1 2025 9:24 utc | 115 As thousand rally in Argentina due to rising hunger – Trumps puppet president in Argentina Milei face his own trials. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 1 2025 9:31 utc | 116 Most of their natural resources are in areas that need modern equipment to reach. The last time they pushed hard to reach them, they needed the combined efforts of top western companies and decades to actually tap them. Posted by: bremidon | Aug 1 2025 10:07 utc | 117 What is after Trump?
Posted by: will moon | Aug 1 2025 10:42 utc | 118 @james | Aug 1 2025 4:06 utc: Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Aug 1 2025 11:23 utc | 119 Business as usual. The URL alone conveys the content: Posted by: I forgot | Aug 1 2025 11:44 utc | 120 R2R: The US-EU Trade Deal: Too Awful To Be True Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 1 2025 12:55 utc | 121 Trump Modifies Global Tariffs Hours Before Deadline Posted by: JohnGilberts | Aug 1 2025 13:22 utc | 122 Some time ago I posted an article which was laying out how social media (and a clever baiting scheme) was used to map in real time the entire syrian military during the invasion that lead to the collapse of the Assad government. Posted by: Hamburger | Aug 1 2025 13:28 utc | 123 In my lifetime, the people in the White House now are generating lies and nonsense at a rate exceeding all others. Posted by: I forgot | Aug 1 2025 13:29 utc | 124 Tom Pfotzer@11:23 Posted by: will moon | Aug 1 2025 13:47 utc | 125 I can see the likes of the little French coke head Macron – sending in assassination teams to Africa nations that want to use their won asset, for the benefit of their own people. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 1 2025 14:11 utc | 126 From ZH
I want to see Clinton in an orange prison suit Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 1 2025 14:12 utc | 127 Apple and WhatsApp are fighting against the British government, who want a backdoor into their online business. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 1 2025 14:27 utc | 128 Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 1 2025 14:12 utc | 130 Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 1 2025 14:45 utc | 129 @ juliania | Aug 1 2025 6:17 utc | 114 Posted by: james | Aug 1 2025 14:57 utc | 130 I want to see Clinton in an orange prison suit Posted by: juliania | Aug 1 2025 15:19 utc | 131 Today is the 30th Anniversary of Operation Storm, in which the CIA and MI6 and NATO and General Keane’s mercenary group overran the Serbian Republic of Krajina killing thousands of Serb civilians, seizing their farms, homes, businesses, churches, pastures and vineyards. They actively demoed Serbian Orthodox Churches. They summarily executed Serb soldiers in the streets. Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 1 2025 16:34 utc | 132 steven t johnson – many thanks for agreeing that Sir Keir is a fascist, and please lighten up, a little humor is not a sin, except to ideologues……… Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 1 2025 16:40 utc | 133 Sir Keir’s so called government has actually made a crime to carry a defensive weapon in public, whether that be a firearm (handgun) or swiss army knife. Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 1 2025 16:44 utc | 134 I love the contrast. Posted by: I forgot | Aug 1 2025 17:31 utc | 135 Due Dissidence on Epstein prison video. Was edited, not raw footage as promoted. Posted by: Thurl | Aug 1 2025 17:33 utc | 136 so Trump tweeted out that he’s ordered to deploy two NUCLEAR submarines in “appropriate locations” to contain Russia – ugh, Trump seems to be reliving his famous feud with Rosie O’Donnell. They better start adjusting his dosages again Posted by: Kadath | Aug 1 2025 17:39 utc | 137 From the Ukraine anti-corruption discussion Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 1 2025 18:08 utc | 138 @ LoveDonbass | Aug 1 2025 18:08 utc | 141 Posted by: I forgot | Aug 1 2025 19:33 utc | 139 Seriously, I can’t understand why Posted by: Esophagus | Aug 1 2025 19:36 utc | 140 When are the American people going to waken up, and stop this daylight robbery – this money should be invested in the States – and not some belligerent Neo-Nazi puppet state. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 1 2025 19:39 utc | 141 Ah, the same old story no matter where you go in the world, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 1 2025 19:40 utc | 143 Utterly surreal that the Orange Zionist POTUS, Trump who is the main driving force behind backing the Zionists and their genocide – that, his name would even come up with this in mind, then again the Nobel Foundation isn’t really a neutral body – Obama’s award in 2009 illustrates this beautifully. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 1 2025 19:45 utc | 144 The likes of Trump. Starmer and Merz, shouldn’t feel jealous – they have White Elephants of their own – in Israel and Ukraine, of course these White Elephants are kept afloat – at the expense of the US/UK/and EU taxpayers. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 1 2025 19:51 utc | 145 @ Esophagus | Aug 1 2025 19:36 utc | 143 Posted by: I forgot | Aug 1 2025 20:33 utc | 146 I forgot | Aug 1 2025 20:33 utc | 149 Posted by: Esophagus | Aug 1 2025 20:41 utc | 147 Journalist Youssef Fares Posted by: Ornot | Aug 1 2025 21:36 utc | 148 Rashid Khalidi, professor emeritus and author of The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine, has been forced to resign from teaching at Columbia.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/01/columbia-historian-rashid-khalidi-open-letter Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 1 2025 21:53 utc | 150 Posted by: tobias cole | Aug 1 2025 16:40 utc | 136 Another characteristic of real fascists is their desire to conquer, preferably foreign countries (even Portugal had a colonial empire to defend.) But if need be, their own people (Spain in particular, since the US took the largest part of their empire away from them.) Fascists glory in leading their people to sacrifice for the Homeland. Although Starmer may want to divvy up Russia, he is very timid about demanding heroic struggle from the people in the glorious cause. If anything, Starmer smacks more of Vichy France (except the Vichyites wanted to hang on to their empire by collaborating with the Nazis, whose politics they liked so much better than the Popular Front—the woke of that period.) Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 1 2025 21:54 utc | 151 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cEFAjO_vc0&t=1496s Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 1 2025 22:03 utc | 152 Epstein, Ukraine and Gaza are all part of the degeneration of the West. Epstein and Ukraine are horrible but Gaza shows that the US is solidly and openly supporting a genocide. All of this is for the benefit of the elites. Posted by: financial matters | Aug 1 2025 23:46 utc | 153 On a lighter note from The Register
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 2 2025 2:42 utc | 154 The Nelson Mendela theorom Posted by: denk | Aug 2 2025 2:52 utc | 155 This ought to be on the Ukraine thread, “What “Rooting Out the Causes of the Crisis” Entails: Putin & Lukashenko at Valaam”, but it’s Big Picture too, so I’m putting my notice here. Posted by: Esophagus | Aug 1 2025 19:36 utc | 143 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 2 2025 3:06 utc | 157 Posted by: I forgot | Aug 1 2025 19:33 utc | 142 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 2 2025 3:14 utc | 158
It’s called the ostrich plugin and would help quasi-literate Asshole from leaping in with both feet. Now he’ll have to be fed by confederates. Won’t that be fun? Posted by: Laurence | Aug 2 2025 3:45 utc | 159 This ought to be on the Ukraine thread, “What “Rooting Out the Causes of the Crisis” Entails: Putin & Lukashenko at Valaam”, but it’s Big Picture too, so I’m putting my notice here. Posted by: juliania | Aug 2 2025 3:50 utc | 160 Below is a short summary of China economic focus reported by Xinhuanet
China continues to lead by example Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 2 2025 4:04 utc | 161 In reaction to a tweet of Dimitri Medvedev, Donald Trump has moved two nuclear submarines closer to Russia.
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(welt.de) Posted by: Passerby | Aug 2 2025 5:58 utc | 162 Well, it’s time for ChatNPC to do a mea culpa. Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 2 2025 11:28 utc | 163 Surely Israel will not be invited to participate. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 2 2025 13:11 utc | 164 This is all sabre rattling nonsense between Trump and Medvedev. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 2 2025 13:15 utc | 165 I smell a rat… Posted by: denk | Aug 2 2025 13:15 utc | 166 Well, it’s time for ChatNPC to do a mea culpa.“ Posted by: will moon | Aug 2 2025 14:21 utc | 167 Japan vs China Posted by: denk | Aug 2 2025 14:42 utc | 168 Tucker and Candace are part of a much bigger psyop. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 2 2025 14:58 utc | 169 This ought to be on the Ukraine thread, “What “Rooting Out the Causes of the Crisis” Entails: Putin & Lukashenko at Valaam”, but it’s Big Picture too, so I’m putting my notice here. Posted by: juliania | Aug 2 2025 15:14 utc | 170 Japan vs China Posted by: denk | Aug 2 2025 15:25 utc | 171 Posted by: will moon | Aug 2 2025 14:21 utc | 170 Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 2 2025 15:30 utc | 172
You might want to provide examples to back up that assertion, lest people think you are merely jealous. Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 2 2025 15:43 utc | 173 Also,for those who like me love our mountains but miss the ocean, here is the link to yesterday’s Alex Christoforou walk in the seas of Cyprus. A bonus is that he gives a brief link at the beginning to a segment of Putin’s conversation in Valaam,the part where, without naming him (Lukashenko does that) he gives good advice to the US President. Posted by: juliania | Aug 2 2025 15:43 utc | 174 Japan vs China Posted by: denk | Aug 2 2025 16:12 utc | 175 Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 2 2025 11:28 utc | 166 Posted by: Laurence | Aug 2 2025 17:04 utc | 176 Thank you for the nice additions to my inquiry. I don’t yet have much to add. Posted by: persiflo | Aug 2 2025 17:51 utc | 177 FUKUSA, aka AUKUS,
? Posted by: denk | Aug 2 2025 18:09 utc | 178 Posted by: denk | Aug 2 2025 18:09 utc | 181 Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 2 2025 18:23 utc | 179 A reply to the Arab Internet Warriors Posted by: Femi | Aug 2 2025 19:01 utc | 180 This post from Sam Husseini crisply summarizes numerous aspects of ongoing Epstein trouble. Why it matters: Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 2 2025 19:05 utc | 181 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 2 2025 3:06 utc | 160 Posted by: Esophagus | Aug 2 2025 19:32 utc | 182 Some music for a saturday. I never really warmed up to ABBA, but seeing a short video of bassist Rutger Gunnarsson playing Dancing Queen might finally have done the trick for me. Posted by: persiflo | Aug 2 2025 19:32 utc | 183 Posting over here at o/t and will repost in end of week o/t if b permits. Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 2 2025 20:40 utc | 184 @ NemesisCalling | Aug 2 2025 20:40 utc | 187 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 2 2025 21:39 utc | 185 @ 188 aleph Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 2 2025 21:45 utc | 186 I never really warmed up to ABBA Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 2 2025 21:56 utc | 187 Just saying you’ve been warned. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 2 2025 21:58 utc | 188 Posted by: persiflo | Aug 2 2025 19:32 utc | 186 & aleph null Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 2 2025 22:06 utc | 189 Femi | Aug 2 2025 19:01 utc | 183 Posted by: Laurence | Aug 2 2025 22:23 utc | 191 Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 2 2025 20:40 utc | 187 Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 2 2025 22:45 utc | 192 @ Aleph_Null | Aug 2 2025 21:39 utc | 188 Posted by: I forgot | Aug 2 2025 22:53 utc | 193 Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 2 2025 22:45 utc | 195 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 2 2025 22:59 utc | 194 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 2 2025 22:59 utc | 197 Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 2 2025 23:09 utc | 195 @ I forgot | Aug 2 2025 22:53 utc | 196 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 2 2025 23:10 utc | 196 Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 2 2025 23:09 utc | 198 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 2 2025 23:16 utc | 197 The attack on Candace Owens linked here by LD is archetypal crap. Wall-to-wall insinuation, from whom she married to whom she smoked pot with in high school. Not one word about how Candace Owens has been sneakily furthering Zionism by pretending to oppose it:
https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/candace-owens-slammed-by-right-over-deranged-conspiracy-theory-about-jewish-people/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 2 2025 23:33 utc | 198 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 2 2025 23:33 utc | 201 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2025 0:11 utc | 199 I’m not endorsing the following excerpt. On the contrary, this really is textbook Hasbara disinfo, just like LD and friends shared above, regarding Candace. Sorry for the length of this dreck, I thought barflies might find it interesting how closely LD’s views align with those of the ADL. We’re subject to some serious ‘splaining, in here:
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/candace-owens Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 3 2025 0:13 utc | 200 |
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