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July 23, 2025
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2025-164
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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https://www.japantimes.co.jp/business/2025/07/23/economy/us-japan-trade-deal-trump/ Posted by: Hamburger | Jul 23 2025 16:36 utc | 1 I think we need to start sharing examples of empire Ouroboros and below are two posting titles from ZH to start it off Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 23 2025 16:46 utc | 2 From an article at The Cradle about the US Peace President…./s
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 23 2025 16:55 utc | 3 Why is Trump trying to hard to stop the Epstein stuff? Maybe Trump just doesn’t want his family, which includes grandkids, to constantly be exposed to all this stuff. That is a good explanation for his suing the Wall St. Journal. For why he is trying to get MAGA off of this–he has been saying over and over that “it’s all just a Democrat Op.” I don’t believe he means that literally, he means that the Democrats have jumped on this bigly, and are using it to damage Republicans in their propaganda–and he is right. Posted by: kana | Jul 23 2025 17:03 utc | 4 The raunchy saga of the wealthy jewish* child sex trafficker, now posthumously making monkeys out of politicians in the wretched city, who allegedly committed suicide in an anti-suicide cell while under an intense international media spotlight and his potential association with the loudmouthed new yorker has a lot of people confused and yearning for a time when he was more stable, reasoned and level headed. In other words, the man they voted for. Posted by: chunga | Jul 23 2025 17:04 utc | 5 @ psychohistorian
“Computer Says No ”… Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 17:11 utc | 7 Canadian exporters across a wide range of industries have a way to escape U.S. President Donald Trump’s blanket tariffs. Posted by: Laurence | Jul 23 2025 17:13 utc | 8 kana @4: “Why is Trump trying to hard to stop the Epstein stuff? Maybe Trump just doesn’t want his family, which includes grandkids, to constantly be exposed to all this stuff.” Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 23 2025 17:15 utc | 9 Last night I watched a vid with 4-787 pilots discussing the fuel cut-off switch history, my four take aways from this conclave of high hour, in type, pilots: Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 23 2025 17:33 utc | 10 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 17:11 utc | 7
I believe the computer. The story doesn’t wash. It’s an hit piece on AI. Posted by: Laurence | Jul 23 2025 17:44 utc | 11 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 17:11 utc | 7 Posted by: Arganthonios | Jul 23 2025 18:17 utc | 12 As for the Epstein files and Trump’s reluctance, I think the simplest answer is the most likely, just ask yourself: Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 23 2025 18:23 utc | 13 Sentencing hearing underway for ‘Freedom Convoy’ leaders Lich, Barber
Not Knowing The ‘Enemy’ https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/07/not-knowing-the-enemy.html Posted by: Laurence | Jul 23 2025 18:40 utc | 14 S Brennan @10: “I’m not sure why those who work in the software industry have come to this state…” Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 23 2025 18:42 utc | 15 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 17:11 utc | 7 Posted by: kspr | Jul 23 2025 18:48 utc | 16 A brief note on Tulsi Gabbard: Skipping over the non-Constitutional use of the word “treasonous,” I remind honest readers that alleging treason to undermine the government was a time honored tactic, almost a thoughtless smear from hack politicians. The classic example should be one Joseph McCarthy. Gabbard of course, should explain why encouraging a crowd to storm the Capitol is simply a patriotic exercise in free speech. The conservative believes that if it wasn’t for double standards, they’d have no standards at all. But others can and do disagree. At this time, we should simply dismiss her as just another hack. Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 23 2025 18:58 utc | 17 “No wonder England’s water needs cleaning up – most sewage discharges aren’t even classified as pollution incidents.” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 23 2025 19:02 utc | 18 I hope Iran gives the Yanks a taste of their own medicine with this one – I think Yankee nukes are kept at these US bases F.E. Warren, Malmstrom, and Minot. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 23 2025 19:06 utc | 19 Louis Proyect lite references the January 6 “insurrection” fiction but implores us to dismiss what any clear-headed non TDS victim has been able to see as treason all along. Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 23 2025 19:14 utc | 20 @ William Gruff | Jul 23 2025 18:42 utc | 15 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 19:19 utc | 21 All very true – as the mass murderers and genocide committers in governments, push the Overton Window to see what they can get away with, so far they are getting away with murder and genocide. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 23 2025 19:20 utc | 22 @Republicofscotland | Jul 23 2025 19:20 utc: Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jul 23 2025 19:33 utc | 23 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 23 2025 19:06 utc | 19
Recent history shows that notional `missile defense shield’ against Iran was, in fact laughable — if not contemptible. It was/is an integral component of some other stratagem which has not to my knowledge been removed from the table. Posted by: Laurence | Jul 23 2025 19:49 utc | 24 – Jeremy RL 21, Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 23 2025 19:49 utc | 25
RT has published an excellent review by Ladislav Zemanek of the China-CEE Institute dealing with the recent visit of Indian Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar to China, “The world’s most explosive rivalry just turned strategic”, in which the opening paragraph provides a good synopsis of the article’s tone and content:
IMO, this is a reasonable yet optimistic review that’s a must read for all those interested in the world situation.
Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 23 2025 19:49 utc | 25 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 20:53 utc | 28 Folks, the FBI/CIA cannot allow Trump to release the Epstein files because those files would show: the FBI/CIA allowed American children to be raped for decades by an agent for Israel in order to collect blackmail on American elites. And those elites are still in power today. — Emerald Robinson ✝️ (@EmeraldRobinson) Jul 23, 2025 Posted by: Jo | Jul 23 2025 21:28 utc | 29 Barack “Too Tan for the Klan” Obama is, tragically not at all in peril of facing any judgment whatsoever for any of his crimes. Only a political whore like Gabbard would waste the world’s time sucking up to the tin God Trump with this nonsense. And only moral degenerates and mental defectives are outraged by how Obama betrayed the empire when he didn’t. Only die-hard imperialist apologists can claim Trump is anti-imperialist, and therefore lying about him was fighting for the empire. Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 23 2025 21:37 utc | 30 Republicofscotland | Jul 23 2025 19:06 utc | 19 Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Jul 23 2025 21:40 utc | 31 Why the current `rogue AI’ is suspect – Google Search
What sort of `agent’ was that developer working on? https://www.pcmag.com/news/vibe-coding-fiasco-replite-ai-agent-goes-rogue-deletes-company-database
[ vector a series of articles thoroughly lacking in real examples except an inappropriately labelled instance of `RUSSIAN HACKERS’]
Next. Posted by: Laurence | Jul 23 2025 21:42 utc | 32 George Galloway – MOATS: ‘Death Watch’ Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 23 2025 21:48 utc | 33 A US judge has denied a bid to unseal grand jury material from the investigation into the late convicted paedophile financier Jeffrey Epstein. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyq921zqqzo
Posted by: Laurence | Jul 23 2025 21:54 utc | 34 An American PMC will for the next 99 years provide the US with a foothold in the South Caucasus at the intersection of Armenia, Azerbaijan and Iran. The Zangezur Corridor is certain to be viewed as a source of destabilization for years to come as NATO seeks the means to open yet another front against Russia. In so doing, the tensions are almost certainly be skyrocketing as Azerbaijan is known to host Israeli bases on its territory from which raids can (and have) been launched against Iran. Posted by: Jo | Jul 23 2025 22:09 utc | 35 Republicofscotland | Jul 23 2025 19:20 utc | Posted by: Diminushoner | Jul 23 2025 22:14 utc | 36 The True Security Threat of Rogue AI https://www.enterprisesecuritytech.com/post/the-true-security-threat-of-rogue-ai
Posted by: Laurence | Jul 24 2025 0:07 utc | 37 Michael Tracey says… Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 24 2025 0:34 utc | 38 I’m sure it’s just a huge coincidence that we’re seeing articles like these posted on page A1 of the tech-lib sites at the moment. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 24 2025 0:50 utc | 39 Here we go again with posts at MoA disappearing on 2nd refresh. WTF is going on? Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 24 2025 0:57 utc | 40 Jo 29, Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 24 2025 1:03 utc | 41 Hey young barflies Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 24 2025 1:09 utc | 42 Why is Trump trying to hard to stop the Epstein stuff? Maybe Trump just doesn’t want his family, which includes grandkids, to constantly be exposed to all this stuff. Posted by: Organic | Jul 24 2025 1:23 utc | 43 This is informative and well worth reading – Big Picture – Japan & Australia Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 24 2025 1:48 utc | 44 Re: Obama, didn’t Trump get SCOTUS to indemnify a sitting President against any crimes? Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 24 2025 1:49 utc | 45 Jeremy RL 28, Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 24 2025 2:14 utc | 46 “ Hey young barflies [needless diminutive pejorative noted]….STFU” -psychohistorian – 42 Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 24 2025 2:45 utc | 47 GD: Max Blumenthal Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 24 2025 2:57 utc | 48 @ S Brennan | Jul 24 2025 2:45 utc | 47 who is twisting my reference to old timers at the MoA bar into old timers in general or whatever group you are saying is the problem other than my God Of Mammon cult and their global private finance jackboot that I have been railing about for 50+ years. Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 24 2025 3:03 utc | 49 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 23 2025 17:11 utc | 7 Posted by: lex talionis | Jul 24 2025 3:53 utc | 50 S Brennan | Jul 23 2025 17:33 utc | 10 Posted by: Persona Non Grata | Jul 24 2025 3:59 utc | 51 If you like Sun Tzu. you’d probably like ROMANCE OF THE THREE KINGDOMS. OUTLAWS OF THE MARSH,DREAM OF THE RED CHAMBER, JOURNEY TO THE WEST would repay your attention. Perhaps THE PLUM IN THE GOLDEN VASE as well. They are works of fiction that everyone in China reads, which inspire movies and TV mini series, etc. Posted by: lester | Jul 24 2025 4:22 utc | 52 Re Tulsi vs Obama on Russia hoax, anyone with basic critical thinking skills should have recognized Russiagate claims as nonsense in 15 minutes. Posted by: lester | Jul 24 2025 4:28 utc | 53 Why Armenia and Azerbaijan could be the next flash point. Posted by: Suresh | Jul 24 2025 4:30 utc | 54 “Why is Trump trying to hard to stop the Epstein stuff? ” Posted by: lester | Jul 24 2025 4:35 utc | 55
https://x.com/TheVinoMom/status/1948235140917854500 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 24 2025 4:51 utc | 56 Wolff Responds: ‘Tariffs Bite Back’ Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 24 2025 5:00 utc | 57 It’s the classic American game of selling losses to the next sucker. Now that the foreign suckers have backed out, predation on the American people has become necessary. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 24 2025 5:03 utc | 58 ..why the double standard? Posted by: Anchoright | Jul 24 2025 5:33 utc | 59 @S Brennan | Jul 24 2025 1:03 utc | 41 Posted by: El.Lissitzky | Jul 24 2025 5:39 utc | 60 What the Epstein affair shows is that US politicians don’t get into office or any senior position without there being kompromat. The second thing it shows is that the intelligence agencies are the ones collecting the kompromat. Posted by: Down South | Jul 24 2025 6:21 utc | 61 I dont trust Tracey at ALL anymore. his smirking dismissal of the Epstein scandal is way too convenient for so many in the Deep State. Posted by: pretzelattack | Jul 24 2025 6:39 utc | 62 @ Down South | Jul 24 2025 6:21 utc | 61 who asked Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 24 2025 6:39 utc | 63
https://x.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1948210467626750074 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 24 2025 6:45 utc | 64 Re: 2027 Insolvency Crisis ? Posted by: Exile | Jul 24 2025 7:37 utc | 65 Re: 2027 Insolvency Crisis ? Posted by: Exile | Jul 24 2025 7:38 utc | 66 “Tom_Q_Collins” ( Jul 24 2025 0:57 utc | 40 ) asked:
Panic on the dance floor as the new orders come in from on high, fighting firestorms with wet towels, and so on. Glad it’s not my job 🙂 Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 24 2025 8:02 utc | 67 @Suresh | Jul 24 2025 4:30 utc | 54
It is an old conflict between the Thais and the Khmer. The languages are completely different from each other. There are important temples lying directly on the border, notably Preah Vihar which is truly ancient with a megalithic base. It lies directly on the border and is claimed by both nations. The International Court of Justice ruled it belonging to Cambodia, but the natural access is from Thailand. There are also several other places of dispute along the border. Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 24 2025 8:57 utc | 68
https://x.com/dom_lucre/status/1948184087690170842 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 24 2025 9:34 utc | 69 Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 23 2025 21:37 utc | 30 Posted by: mk | Jul 24 2025 10:12 utc | 70 @ William Gruff | Jul 23 2025 18:42 utc | 15 Posted by: Friend_of_MLK | Jul 24 2025 10:22 utc | 71 Norwegian | Jul 24 2025 8:57 utc | 68 Posted by: Not Einstein | Jul 24 2025 10:54 utc | 72 @Not Einstein | Jul 24 2025 10:54 utc | 72
Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 24 2025 11:38 utc | 73 Norwegian | Jul 24 2025 11:38 utc | 73 Posted by: Not Einstein | Jul 24 2025 11:50 utc | 74 Berletic: On the Recent Thailand-Cambodia Conflict Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 24 2025 12:07 utc | 75 As I understand it the Thais have two internationally legally binding rulings against themselves on the matter and yet they send in their troops to invade. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 24 2025 12:08 utc | 76 @Not Einstein | Jul 24 2025 11:50 utc | 74
I was wondering about that too, but it seems it is maybe also a question of power transfer from Hun Sen to his son. But for sure it doesn’t make sense for Cambodia to attack Thailand unless the goal is to cry for external help. Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 24 2025 12:15 utc | 77 @Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 24 2025 12:08 utc | 76 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 24 2025 12:23 utc | 78 Brian Berletic lives in Thailand and contributes the following
https://t.me/brianlovethailand/4119 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 24 2025 12:59 utc | 79 Brian Berletic is right of course
—————— Posted by: denk | Jul 24 2025 13:47 utc | 80 BREAKING: This morning, the American guided missile destroyer USS Fitzgerald (DDG-62) attempted to enter Iranian waters in the Persian Gulf Posted by: Mary | Jul 24 2025 14:20 utc | 81 No doubt a Nato member is backing one or the other. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 24 2025 14:22 utc | 82 Posted by: mk | Jul 24 2025 10:12 utc | 70 So far as I know, none of anything Assange writes personally is of any interest. It’s the suppressed information that he publicizes that matters, not his analysis. In my opinion, an honest Director of National Intelligence would be explaining that Russia is not about to invade NATO countries, that PRC is not an existential threat to the American people, that the Zionists are perpetrating genocide, etc. etc. etc. So no, I don’t see Gabbard as honest. Your willingness to excuse Gabbard’s dubious notions of what constitutes treason is for you to explain. Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 24 2025 14:26 utc | 83 Once you welcome the devil in – you never get rid of him – Armenia will never get that land back. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 24 2025 14:29 utc | 84 Since Dec 24, there were reports the Cambodia/China canal proj had hit a snag, cuz Hun Manet wanted to rewrite contract.. Posted by: denk | Jul 24 2025 14:30 utc | 85 Good luck with that task at hand, the imperialists, colonial, robbers – aren’t know for giving other peoples possessions back. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 24 2025 14:32 utc | 86 I would add the list Britain, Germany, France and a few other nations, that have undermined its authority as well. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 24 2025 14:36 utc | 87 I’m very, very, very sick [60yrs or so] of senior baby-boomers talking down to everybody else…including those who were drafted into WWII, Korea, Viet Nam. I may be on this earth only a few extra days but, I look forward to the “greatest-generation-of-hypocrites” being silenced by the grave. Posted by: Mary | Jul 24 2025 14:43 utc | 88 There was never any doubt that Trump’s name was on the list. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 24 2025 14:47 utc | 89 The way the Trump administration is handling the Epstein affair is to incompetent to be credible. Posted by: jared | Jul 24 2025 14:47 utc | 90 Sometimes its good to have friends in high places. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 24 2025 14:49 utc | 91 Hun Sen just set the Thai PM up…
Posted by: denk | Jul 24 2025 14:51 utc | 92 Hun Sen just set the Thai PM up…
Posted by: denk | Jul 24 2025 14:54 utc | 93 @ Posted by: Exile | Jul 24 2025 7:38 utc | 66 Posted by: jared | Jul 24 2025 14:55 utc | 94 The little coke head Macron – will be screaming merde, merde, merde, as his colony enforcing jackbooted troop, are kicked out of yet another African country – the little slapped face French president, will be wondering what to do will all those troops standing around not making money for French businesses, that affect his kickbacks. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 24 2025 14:56 utc | 95 A wise move, the UAE, like Qatar and Saudi Arabia has many irons in the fire. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 24 2025 14:59 utc | 96 Surrounded by nearly 40 Chinese warships, the Charles … Posted by: denk | Jul 24 2025 15:11 utc | 97 Shame Iran didn’t drop a few more hypersonics on the “tech” companies data-centres. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 24 2025 15:22 utc | 98 Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 23 2025 18:58 utc | 17 Posted by: canuk | Jul 24 2025 15:39 utc | 99 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 24 2025 14:59 utc | 96 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 24 2025 15:40 utc | 100 |
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