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July 17, 2025
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2025-158
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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Thanks for your comment, Sunny RB at | Jul 18 2025 14:43 utc | 194. I’ve been privileged to notice the huge changes modernization has made in my home country, New Zealand down through the years. On a first trip back, television had come, vastly changing the communities I knew as a child. Later it was big corporations taking over the phone company’s antiquated systems, revamping them to be on a par with the rest of the world. And finally, it has been computers. So, much of my pedestrian determinations follow my own obstinacy — I love to return to my remembered childhood enjoyments. Posted by: juliania | Jul 18 2025 18:01 utc | 201 Interesting stuff, looks like she was just an escort, looking to it the big time. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 18 2025 18:13 utc | 202 Posted by: Femi | Jul 18 2025 17:35 utc | 199
“Either we have a Charter and are bound by it, or we are free to do whatever we like …” https://un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-180474/ Posted by: Laurence | Jul 18 2025 18:43 utc | 203 Transmania Tribunal in Scotland Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 18 2025 20:43 utc | 204 Transmania Tribunal in Scotland Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 18 2025 20:47 utc | 205 2 years ago Russia had 8% interest rate. Today it is 20%. Posted by: dreamrpg | Jul 18 2025 21:15 utc | 206 Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 18 2025 11:46 utc | 105 Posted by: Menz | Jul 18 2025 21:43 utc | 207 Posted by: wagelaborer | Jul 17 2025 22:50 utc | 110 Posted by: UWDude | Jul 18 2025 23:02 utc | 208 Patrick Lawrence put out a fine piece about Mamdani histrionics:
An old online friend with the handle BigB contributed this pertinent comment, out at ScheerPost:
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 18 2025 23:38 utc | 209 “…ethnic cleansing, which Muslims [in Spain] never did…” Posted by: Ornot | Jul 19 2025 0:24 utc | 210 Spain is littered with Islamo-Christian monuments. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 19 2025 1:26 utc | 211 Posted by: Ornot | Jul 19 2025 0:24 utc | 211
Posted by: Laurence | Jul 19 2025 2:10 utc | 212 @212 LoveDonbass Posted by: Ornot | Jul 19 2025 2:40 utc | 213 Pale face with forked tongue… Posted by: denk | Jul 19 2025 3:22 utc | 214 @213 Laurence Posted by: Ornot | Jul 19 2025 3:36 utc | 215 Ornot | Jul 19 2025 3:36 utc | 216 Posted by: Laurence | Jul 19 2025 3:47 utc | 216 MS Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 19 2025 3:56 utc | 217 Ornot | Jul 19 2025 2:40 utc | 214 Posted by: Laurence | Jul 19 2025 3:57 utc | 218 Wow, what a fiesta ! Posted by: denk | Jul 19 2025 4:00 utc | 219 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 19 2025 3:56 utc | 218 Posted by: denk | Jul 19 2025 4:03 utc | 220 Legend had it that The United States has only been at peace for 16 years of its 246-year history. Posted by: denk | Jul 19 2025 4:32 utc | 221 Otherwise, how would you be able to draw such conclusion, one of distinction (lack of commonality) ? Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 19 2025 4:37 utc | 222 Posted by: denk | Jul 19 2025 4:03 utc | 221 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 19 2025 4:41 utc | 223 IOW, THIS part (bracketed by —- on either side) of the non-hyperlinked portion of the ‘vestigial’ URL: Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 19 2025 4:43 utc | 224 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 19 2025 4:41 utc | 224 Posted by: denk | Jul 19 2025 4:45 utc | 225
And that conclusion was:
/snicker Posted by: Laurence | Jul 19 2025 4:56 utc | 226 Xinhuanet has a posting up with the title
I think I heard Pepe Escobar being at this event and expect to hear more about it from him….a growing challenge to the MSM Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 19 2025 5:03 utc | 227 The Register has a great posting up with the title Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 19 2025 5:40 utc | 228 Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 19 2025 5:40 utc | 229 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 19 2025 5:53 utc | 229 ZH has a posting up with the title Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 19 2025 6:18 utc | 230 Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 19 2025 5:40 utc | 229
Those three paragraphs loosely describe the Twitter algorithm-user relationship. The `defective products’, however can be left on the production line to eventually fall into some form of the legendary `bit bucket’, /dev/zero. Posted by: Laurence | Jul 19 2025 7:00 utc | 231 The Globe and Mail Posted by: Laurence | Jul 19 2025 7:49 utc | 232 @114 20 scientific papers. Wow. All independently researched no doubt. Posted by: j99 | Jul 19 2025 7:53 utc | 233 fyi Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 19 2025 8:51 utc | 234 Trump having a go at BRICS again – he must really fear the group. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 19 2025 10:31 utc | 235 Col Larry Wilkerson & Amb Chas Freeman Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 19 2025 10:34 utc | 236 @SunnyRunny, I replied to you at 198; the comment only appeared a bit later. /jic you haven’t seen it. Posted by: persiflo | Jul 19 2025 11:16 utc | 237 So yeah, Trump has accomplished the MAIN goals set out for his presidency in record time.. Posted by: Newbie | Jul 19 2025 12:07 utc | 238 @217 Laurence Posted by: Ornot | Jul 19 2025 13:25 utc | 239 The ECB’s Strategic Review: A Betrayal of Europe’s Workers Posted by: JB | Jul 19 2025 14:19 utc | 240 @Ornot | Sat, 19 Jul 2025 13:25:00 GMT | 240
This. Posted by: persiflo | Jul 19 2025 14:51 utc | 241 Talisman Saber exercises have been staged every two years since 2005. Posted by: denk | Jul 19 2025 17:59 utc | 242 @223 LoveDonbass Posted by: Ornot | Jul 19 2025 18:48 utc | 243 Tom_Q_Collins, Norwegian Posted by: will moon | Jul 19 2025 19:40 utc | 244 “And it’s one, two, three, Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jul 19 2025 19:48 utc | 245 “ To all: Please be patient.…” Posted by: will moon | Jul 19 2025 20:35 utc | 246 I’ve yet to read above comments, but I want to recommend the following conversation between Danny Haiphong and Professor Mahommed Marandi. It’s long, but I found great relief in the manner of it, the quiet way both discuss important issues. So perhaps, leave off the coffee, and grab a cup of tea instead. Enjoy. Posted by: juliania | Jul 19 2025 22:37 utc | 247 @ Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 19 2025 5:53 utc | 230 Posted by: james | Jul 19 2025 23:36 utc | 248 For Too Scents – lots to unpack in this article, they are getting ready to loot…. Posted by: Exile | Jul 20 2025 1:17 utc | 249 Rehearsing blockade of Malacca Straits ! Posted by: denk | Jul 20 2025 2:18 utc | 250 Posted by: Ornot | Jul 19 2025 13:25 utc | 240
Posted by: Laurence | Jul 20 2025 2:29 utc | 251 @252 Laurence Posted by: Ornot | Jul 20 2025 3:35 utc | 252 Posted by: will moon | Jul 19 2025 20:35 utc | 247 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 20 2025 4:25 utc | 253 OH, and LOL. This is the big one. ANY and ALL potential responses from c1ue to these comments will reference “TDS” and be heavily critical of Democrats with literally zero… EVER … criticism of Republicans to include Trump/MAGA. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 20 2025 4:27 utc | 254 Trump’s Concentration Camps Are Not New to the U.S Posted by: Menz | Jul 20 2025 4:36 utc | 255 Posted by: Menz | Jul 20 2025 4:36 utc | 256 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 20 2025 4:39 utc | 256 Xinhuanet has a posting up with the title
The unspoken part is that the key cooperation is with China and not the West….think about that, Western companies are funding R&D in China. Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 20 2025 4:54 utc | 257 Xinhuanet has a posting up with the title
Sounds like less of a empire poodle than normal, eh? Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 20 2025 4:58 utc | 258 The Register has a posting up with the title
Remember that this matter stuff is about 5% of the Cosmos we live in and are part of…..it has taken eons of this baron breakdown to make, with other means we don’t have a clue about, the matter of which we are made. Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 20 2025 5:37 utc | 259 Tom_Q_Collins@4:25 Posted by: will moon | Jul 20 2025 6:20 utc | 260 Sounds like less of a empire poodle than normal, eh? Posted by: barrybarrybarry | Jul 20 2025 6:32 utc | 261 Posted by: Ornot | Jul 20 2025 3:35 utc | 253
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Posted by: Laurence | Jul 20 2025 6:42 utc | 262 BAR is the shit. They have always told it like it is. Too bad it’s too “woke” for most Posted by: Menz | Jul 20 2025 7:57 utc | 263 Sounds like Albo’s asking to be summoned to the US for a ‘White House visit’ Posted by: Menz | Jul 20 2025 8:07 utc | 264 Albanese said that Australia values its relations with China and looks forward to working with the Chinese side to treat each other as equals, seek common ground while shelving differences, and engage in mutually beneficial cooperation to advance bilateral ties. Posted by: Menz | Jul 20 2025 8:15 utc | 265 Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 20 2025 4:58 utc | 259 Posted by: Menz | Jul 20 2025 8:18 utc | 266 I have said before that hubris is humanities problem and it started with monotheistic religions that professed answers which we know are myths and destroyed the awe we should have towards our place in the universe and the lack of understanding of it. Posted by: juliania | Jul 20 2025 10:52 utc | 267 New Zealand governments both current and previous have clearly and publicly stated our friendship with the government and people of China. And maybe to celebrate that fact a Chinese frigate sailing down the Tasman Sea fired off a skyrocket while our Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters was visiting Beijing! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Chinese_naval_exercises_in_the_Tasman_Sea Posted by: tucenz | Jul 20 2025 11:35 utc | 268 To buttress my opinion I will give a quotation from Dostoievski’s ‘The Brothers Karamazov’:
Posted by: juliania | Jul 20 2025 11:45 utc | 269 @will moon | Sun, 20 Jul 2025 06:20:00 GMT | 261
The paradigmatic certainty with which you discount the Suvorov hypothesis goes some way to show that you are the free speech problem there, not Ron Unz. I bet you have never heard of Bernd Schwipper, too. Posted by: persiflo | Jul 20 2025 12:22 utc | 270 Posted by: Fit Rice | Jul 20 2025 12:22 utc | 271 Posted by: canuk | Jul 20 2025 12:39 utc | 271 “…discount the Suvarov hypothesis “ Posted by: will moon | Jul 20 2025 15:42 utc | 272 @263 Laurence Posted by: Ornot | Jul 20 2025 15:56 utc | 273 @271 Persiflo Posted by: Ornot | Jul 20 2025 16:30 utc | 274 @Ornot 275
My take here is that the “considered, honest, and apparently factual statement” is rammed into a discussion which concerns itself with other hypothesis. That is plainly impolite, whereby the problem comes with the presentation. I can say that because I am not at all convinced that the Suvorov hypothesis is wrong, after reading and actually meeting Dr. Schwipper (who had an argument about the radios as well). Posted by: persiflo | Jul 20 2025 17:57 utc | 275 Studies have to be made how Russia was able to make both Armenia and Azerbaijan hate and distance from them. Posted by: Fit Rice | Jul 20 2025 19:30 utc | 276 It is not proven but there are already signs that Russia is in a very tough spot. The loss of Syria, loss of Armenia, confrontation with the Azeris, no support for Iran simply because they cannot meaningfully do so (not enough equipment for their own war in Ukraine), no real way to guarantee the alliance with China will hold, the EU preparing for a war, new members in NATO such as Sweden and Finland, escalations in the Baltic, possibility to escalate in the Black Sea, Serbia becoming more and more pro-Western, Turkey who will most probably side with the West. And this is just the external threats. Posted by: Bing Of Rarachir | Jul 20 2025 19:40 utc | 277 @276 persiflo Posted by: Ornot | Jul 20 2025 21:20 utc | 278 Posted by: Ornot | Jul 20 2025 15:56 utc | 274
How it began:
How it’s going:
Get bent troll. Posted by: Laurence | Jul 20 2025 22:55 utc | 279 @280 Laurence Posted by: Ornot | Jul 21 2025 0:17 utc | 280 ..Get bent troll. Posted by: tucenz | Jul 21 2025 0:25 utc | 281 ..Get bent troll. Posted by: tucenz | Jul 21 2025 0:25 utc | 282 Ornot, I am not judging will moon was right to be banned. I prefer if no one has to be banned. But as I learned here from experience, it sometimes has to be done. Of course this leaves a grey zone. Aggrandized arguing is in bad style. – This is not about the original question; it is a general point. Posted by: persiflo | Jul 21 2025 1:20 utc | 283 F*ck me – Mattel have launched a Barbie doll with Type One Diabetes, on the doll there will be a Diabetes monitor that matches her outfits. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 22 2025 8:37 utc | 284 Maybe not a “bawdy” diversion but another straw on the camel’s back called empire that is consuming itself like the Ouroboros Posted by: mk | Jul 22 2025 9:19 utc | 285 mk what did you make of the footage Tom_Q_Collins posted showing a different angle of the “assassination “ attempt? Posted by: will moon | Jul 22 2025 9:43 utc | 286 |
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